sandra1
06-14-2004, 11:31 PM
Hi everybody,
Some of you may remember my story before....I had a erupted wisdom tooth as result of of wearing my old splint that didn't cover all my wisdom teeth. That erupted tooth had caused my setback in my tmj....more tension, pain, etc.
I had a appointment with my dentist last week and he had shown to me on my model imppression of my teeth where he will grind my teeth to even out the bite ( open bite). He said that he can't just grind the erupted teeth only, but grind the other teeth as well but very little. I was very disappointed with this news and told him I needed some time to think about going ahead with this procedure. I really don't have any other choice but to go with this thing. But, I have been thinking about something else......could just removing my erupted teeth solve some of the problem. Can I have just that one wisdom teeth taken out or do all of them have to be taken out? If I could have just that bad tooth taken out only, could I have some serious problems in the future regarding that only tooth gone?
Would appreciate any feedback from anybody.
Sandi
Some of you may remember my story before....I had a erupted wisdom tooth as result of of wearing my old splint that didn't cover all my wisdom teeth. That erupted tooth had caused my setback in my tmj....more tension, pain, etc.
I had a appointment with my dentist last week and he had shown to me on my model imppression of my teeth where he will grind my teeth to even out the bite ( open bite). He said that he can't just grind the erupted teeth only, but grind the other teeth as well but very little. I was very disappointed with this news and told him I needed some time to think about going ahead with this procedure. I really don't have any other choice but to go with this thing. But, I have been thinking about something else......could just removing my erupted teeth solve some of the problem. Can I have just that one wisdom teeth taken out or do all of them have to be taken out? If I could have just that bad tooth taken out only, could I have some serious problems in the future regarding that only tooth gone?
Would appreciate any feedback from anybody.
Sandi
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westin4
06-15-2004, 12:15 AM
Sandra,
I don't think you should even consider having your teeth ground! That is a very bad procedure that is not going to "fix" anything. I would get another opinion. Of course you can get only 1 wisdom tooth removed. Listen, get some other opinions before you go any further. If your provider has not even mentioned having the problem tooth removed nor has he told you the dangers of grinding down your teeth, than there is a definite problem!!!
Karen
I don't think you should even consider having your teeth ground! That is a very bad procedure that is not going to "fix" anything. I would get another opinion. Of course you can get only 1 wisdom tooth removed. Listen, get some other opinions before you go any further. If your provider has not even mentioned having the problem tooth removed nor has he told you the dangers of grinding down your teeth, than there is a definite problem!!!
Karen
feelines
06-15-2004, 05:21 PM
Sandra,
By "erupted", do you mean that the tooth came up out of its collar? I've been wanting to find out what erupted means. I had a lower back molar come up after having lost its upper partner molar. My jaw clicked horribly, and when I finally got to a good dentist, he demonstrated with my models how the molar had come up and was knocking my bite around. I was so incredibly happy to get it out of there, but it did change my bite considerably. It won't hurt to get the tooth out, but you should be prepared for a bite change and what you might have to do at that point. Not a good idea to grind down the teeth. I had such bite equilibration done over 15 years ago and will never get the needed vertical dimension back again. Good luck!
By "erupted", do you mean that the tooth came up out of its collar? I've been wanting to find out what erupted means. I had a lower back molar come up after having lost its upper partner molar. My jaw clicked horribly, and when I finally got to a good dentist, he demonstrated with my models how the molar had come up and was knocking my bite around. I was so incredibly happy to get it out of there, but it did change my bite considerably. It won't hurt to get the tooth out, but you should be prepared for a bite change and what you might have to do at that point. Not a good idea to grind down the teeth. I had such bite equilibration done over 15 years ago and will never get the needed vertical dimension back again. Good luck!
TiffanyAnn
06-16-2004, 12:59 AM
Hi everybody,
Some of you may remember my story before....I had a erupted wisdom tooth as result of of wearing my old splint that didn't cover all my wisdom teeth. That erupted tooth had caused my setback in my tmj....more tension, pain, etc.
I had a appointment with my dentist last week and he had shown to me on my model imppression of my teeth where he will grind my teeth to even out the bite ( open bite). He said that he can't just grind the erupted teeth only, but grind the other teeth as well but very little. I was very disappointed with this news and told him I needed some time to think about going ahead with this procedure. I really don't have any other choice but to go with this thing. But, I have been thinking about something else......could just removing my erupted teeth solve some of the problem. Can I have just that one wisdom teeth taken out or do all of them have to be taken out? If I could have just that bad tooth taken out only, could I have some serious problems in the future regarding that only tooth gone?
Would appreciate any feedback from anybody.
Sandi
Hi Sandi:
It's a very bad idea to allow your teeth to be ground. I've had this done TWICE, each time with the promise that I was going to be out of pain. All it did was make my teeth weaker. My advice is to seek other opinions.
Tiffany
Some of you may remember my story before....I had a erupted wisdom tooth as result of of wearing my old splint that didn't cover all my wisdom teeth. That erupted tooth had caused my setback in my tmj....more tension, pain, etc.
I had a appointment with my dentist last week and he had shown to me on my model imppression of my teeth where he will grind my teeth to even out the bite ( open bite). He said that he can't just grind the erupted teeth only, but grind the other teeth as well but very little. I was very disappointed with this news and told him I needed some time to think about going ahead with this procedure. I really don't have any other choice but to go with this thing. But, I have been thinking about something else......could just removing my erupted teeth solve some of the problem. Can I have just that one wisdom teeth taken out or do all of them have to be taken out? If I could have just that bad tooth taken out only, could I have some serious problems in the future regarding that only tooth gone?
Would appreciate any feedback from anybody.
Sandi
Hi Sandi:
It's a very bad idea to allow your teeth to be ground. I've had this done TWICE, each time with the promise that I was going to be out of pain. All it did was make my teeth weaker. My advice is to seek other opinions.
Tiffany
sandra1
06-16-2004, 01:27 PM
Thanks to all of you for your input. I am going for second opinion or to another dentist. I just got the worst news today from my dentist's office when I was planning on making a appointment for this proceure. They said I was unhappy with the treatments he had given me and he won't treat me anymore!!!!!! I was beside myself!!! I was grateful for all the treatments he had given me, including the new splint he had made me, because if I had continued with wearing the old splint before, I would be in alot worst shape now! Not once I had complained to him of his treatments for me, except that I had asked alot of questions regarding his proposed treatment of this grinding proceure. I am still in shock from this......I didn't do anything wrong.....I am sure the dentist completely misunderstood me totally!!
Well, after calming down for awhile, I have decided that I will call the office again and ask if I can make appoinment with one of his associates, a tmjd specialist, and see what happens from there.
Feelines......you asked me about my erupted tooth. Well, all I can say is that
the wisdom tooth just erupted up abit to the point that it is much higher than my other teeth. It was caused by the old splint that didn't cover my wisdom teeth at all. You said that you had your molars out because it caused your other molar to erupted.....well, how did they take that molar out? And when you are talking about your molars, are you talking about just your molar only or the wisdom teeth? You said I should be prepared for a bite change if I get that problem tooth out, and what I might have to do it at that point. What do you mean by that?
If I can't make appoinment with my other dentist's associated specialist, I will have to look elsewhere for a second opinion.
I still can't believe what has happened to me today......but I will find some sense from this.
Thanks again to you guys, and I still want to hear from you Feelines.
Sandi
Well, after calming down for awhile, I have decided that I will call the office again and ask if I can make appoinment with one of his associates, a tmjd specialist, and see what happens from there.
Feelines......you asked me about my erupted tooth. Well, all I can say is that
the wisdom tooth just erupted up abit to the point that it is much higher than my other teeth. It was caused by the old splint that didn't cover my wisdom teeth at all. You said that you had your molars out because it caused your other molar to erupted.....well, how did they take that molar out? And when you are talking about your molars, are you talking about just your molar only or the wisdom teeth? You said I should be prepared for a bite change if I get that problem tooth out, and what I might have to do it at that point. What do you mean by that?
If I can't make appoinment with my other dentist's associated specialist, I will have to look elsewhere for a second opinion.
I still can't believe what has happened to me today......but I will find some sense from this.
Thanks again to you guys, and I still want to hear from you Feelines.
Sandi
feelines
06-16-2004, 04:31 PM
Hi Sandi,
Sorry to hear about your dentist's response. My wisdom teeth were removed 25+ years ago; so I was relating my experience with an erupted molar (the 2nd molar on my lower right) which had come up after having lost its partner (2nd molar on upper right). Which wisdom tooth are you talking about erupting? Did it also lose its partner? Do you have your other wisdom teeth still--which ones? Does your splint cover them? If one uncovered tooth erupts, is it logical to assume that other uncovered teeth could also erupt? From my story, one can reason that if a tooth loses its partner tooth, it could erupt or come up above the adjacent teeth and cause trauma to the joints, because other teeth can bang against it. This is what happened to my right tmj when the lower 2nd molar came up after losing its upper partner 2nd molar. I was not even aware of it. I was only aware of the clicking--could not even speak without clicking. I was so relieved to get it out. I simultaneously got a thin soft diagnostic lower splint. Soon after I noticed that my teeth on my right did not come together anymore. I've lost vertical dimension from prior dental work and equilibration (drilling to reshape teeth)and have to remaining teeth built up. More later...no time left...home computer is down.
Sorry to hear about your dentist's response. My wisdom teeth were removed 25+ years ago; so I was relating my experience with an erupted molar (the 2nd molar on my lower right) which had come up after having lost its partner (2nd molar on upper right). Which wisdom tooth are you talking about erupting? Did it also lose its partner? Do you have your other wisdom teeth still--which ones? Does your splint cover them? If one uncovered tooth erupts, is it logical to assume that other uncovered teeth could also erupt? From my story, one can reason that if a tooth loses its partner tooth, it could erupt or come up above the adjacent teeth and cause trauma to the joints, because other teeth can bang against it. This is what happened to my right tmj when the lower 2nd molar came up after losing its upper partner 2nd molar. I was not even aware of it. I was only aware of the clicking--could not even speak without clicking. I was so relieved to get it out. I simultaneously got a thin soft diagnostic lower splint. Soon after I noticed that my teeth on my right did not come together anymore. I've lost vertical dimension from prior dental work and equilibration (drilling to reshape teeth)and have to remaining teeth built up. More later...no time left...home computer is down.
TiffanyAnn
06-16-2004, 11:02 PM
Hi Sandi:
Consider yourself lucky that the worthless jerk said he would no longer treat you. Any "specialist" who is threatened by questions most likely doesn't know enough to be treating TMJ patients. I would highly doubt that his associates would see you because with doctors and dentists it's a good old boys club. They are concerned ONLY with covering each other rears. So, don't blame yourself in the least. You didn't do anything wrong. This is all about the dentist, not you. I wish you the very best in finding a competent dentist who will treat you and is not threatened by your questions.
Hugs,
Tiffany
Consider yourself lucky that the worthless jerk said he would no longer treat you. Any "specialist" who is threatened by questions most likely doesn't know enough to be treating TMJ patients. I would highly doubt that his associates would see you because with doctors and dentists it's a good old boys club. They are concerned ONLY with covering each other rears. So, don't blame yourself in the least. You didn't do anything wrong. This is all about the dentist, not you. I wish you the very best in finding a competent dentist who will treat you and is not threatened by your questions.
Hugs,
Tiffany
sandra1
06-16-2004, 11:43 PM
Thanks again to you both,
Tiffany.....thanks for your encourgement and agreeing with my situation about the dentist. I had talked to my mother about this whole thing today and she called the office, but "they" couldn't answer her at the moment, and said they will call her back. Well, they didn't today.....maybe tommorrow? If they don't return her call then, I will have no choice but to check for another dentist and get another opinion on this issue. I have calmed down abit after talking to my mother, but the pain of this experiance today is still raw. I thought the dentist would have more compassion from my response to him because I am in physical pain in the jaw. To have him turn away from me at the time I needed reassurance was a real blow to my heart. I never had a doctor that turned me away like that......
So, I will see what happens tommorrow and work from there again.
Thanks again Tiffany.
Feelines......it's my right lower wisdom teeth that has erupted. I have all of my wisdoms in. My question to you is......if I had my erupted wisdom taken out, do you think, or know, that I might develop another erupted wisdom tooth....like say, the upper right wisdom teeth?
I would like to hear from you again....thanks
Sandi
Tiffany.....thanks for your encourgement and agreeing with my situation about the dentist. I had talked to my mother about this whole thing today and she called the office, but "they" couldn't answer her at the moment, and said they will call her back. Well, they didn't today.....maybe tommorrow? If they don't return her call then, I will have no choice but to check for another dentist and get another opinion on this issue. I have calmed down abit after talking to my mother, but the pain of this experiance today is still raw. I thought the dentist would have more compassion from my response to him because I am in physical pain in the jaw. To have him turn away from me at the time I needed reassurance was a real blow to my heart. I never had a doctor that turned me away like that......
So, I will see what happens tommorrow and work from there again.
Thanks again Tiffany.
Feelines......it's my right lower wisdom teeth that has erupted. I have all of my wisdoms in. My question to you is......if I had my erupted wisdom taken out, do you think, or know, that I might develop another erupted wisdom tooth....like say, the upper right wisdom teeth?
I would like to hear from you again....thanks
Sandi
westin4
06-17-2004, 10:42 AM
Sandra,
I wanted to say how sorry I am about the way you were treated. Honesty, be glad that he handled it in this matter. If he was a true professional and was willing to put your best interest first things would not have been done in this way. I am sure in the long run you will be much better off.
I too was treated miserabely by my last dentist. After a few phone calls she had the guts to fire off a nasty letter to me telling me she felt sorry for me that I wasn't smart enough to just take the splint out of my mouth that she made me if it was causing me problems......I was floored and so mad I thought I would have a stroke those first few days after I got her letter!! But, she did do me a favor because I have a wonderful dentist now. Dentists like this are a dime a dozen, the true blues are the ones that are hard to find............
Hope you are feeling somewhat better today and remember you did nothing wrong it is stupidity on their part to treat you this way. Remember you have the worst weapon of all to retaliate..........your mouth.........you can bad mouth his office practices all over town. That is what I did, I know nobody that I EVER meet would go to my last dentist!!!! :) You would think that this would cross their minds before they treat patients so badly!
Karen
I wanted to say how sorry I am about the way you were treated. Honesty, be glad that he handled it in this matter. If he was a true professional and was willing to put your best interest first things would not have been done in this way. I am sure in the long run you will be much better off.
I too was treated miserabely by my last dentist. After a few phone calls she had the guts to fire off a nasty letter to me telling me she felt sorry for me that I wasn't smart enough to just take the splint out of my mouth that she made me if it was causing me problems......I was floored and so mad I thought I would have a stroke those first few days after I got her letter!! But, she did do me a favor because I have a wonderful dentist now. Dentists like this are a dime a dozen, the true blues are the ones that are hard to find............
Hope you are feeling somewhat better today and remember you did nothing wrong it is stupidity on their part to treat you this way. Remember you have the worst weapon of all to retaliate..........your mouth.........you can bad mouth his office practices all over town. That is what I did, I know nobody that I EVER meet would go to my last dentist!!!! :) You would think that this would cross their minds before they treat patients so badly!
Karen
sandra1
06-17-2004, 03:44 PM
Karen,
Thank you for your support........I am feeling better today than yesterday. I called the office again about this matter and they suggested that I go back to my general family dentist and see what he says about my situation. He may make a referral to another specialist if he sees fit to meet my needs. So, I was taking to my mother today, and we both agreed that I make a appointment with my family dentist and work from there. I made the appointment and it's set for this coming Monday. Good, so far. My mother was saying that the other dentist didn't act in a professional matter to me, that he had a poor attitude towards my response to his prosposed treatment. So it's best to move on and get the best treatment for my situation elsewhere.
Thanks again.
Sandi
Thank you for your support........I am feeling better today than yesterday. I called the office again about this matter and they suggested that I go back to my general family dentist and see what he says about my situation. He may make a referral to another specialist if he sees fit to meet my needs. So, I was taking to my mother today, and we both agreed that I make a appointment with my family dentist and work from there. I made the appointment and it's set for this coming Monday. Good, so far. My mother was saying that the other dentist didn't act in a professional matter to me, that he had a poor attitude towards my response to his prosposed treatment. So it's best to move on and get the best treatment for my situation elsewhere.
Thanks again.
Sandi
feelines
06-17-2004, 04:01 PM
Hi Sandi,
I'm still thinking about this eruption process and don't know a heck of a lot about it. I was told by a dentist there is a collar around my lower molar that erupted after losing its partner. I don't know if you could grind down the wisdom tooth or not to get it out of the way. It sounds as if the dentist who didn't cover your wisdoms with the splint is the culprit and knows the answer to this question but won't tell you. A lot of people on these boards report tmj/d and/or mfp(myofacial pain) after widsom tooth extractions; so I can't encourage you to get them out Extraction of teeth is controversial, because they often leave the ligaments behind when they take them out, and problems can develop later. Everything I've learned as a patient, I have learned the hard way. I do think that taking out your lower right wisdom will create some type of response from its upper partner and possibly the rest of your bite. When you see another specialist, don't act like you know too much. Get your records, models, x-rays, etc. Your new models with your next specialist will show what is happening with your bite--make sure he writes it down. There are a lot of sinister things going on in the dental/medical professions so be careful. It is not your fault. I wish had a better answer for you about your wisdoms. I now pay $400-600 for extractions by a specialist who removes the ligament and debrides the bone. I have heard that there a very few (maybe only 10) dentists in the U.S. who do this. Hugs from me, too!
I'm still thinking about this eruption process and don't know a heck of a lot about it. I was told by a dentist there is a collar around my lower molar that erupted after losing its partner. I don't know if you could grind down the wisdom tooth or not to get it out of the way. It sounds as if the dentist who didn't cover your wisdoms with the splint is the culprit and knows the answer to this question but won't tell you. A lot of people on these boards report tmj/d and/or mfp(myofacial pain) after widsom tooth extractions; so I can't encourage you to get them out Extraction of teeth is controversial, because they often leave the ligaments behind when they take them out, and problems can develop later. Everything I've learned as a patient, I have learned the hard way. I do think that taking out your lower right wisdom will create some type of response from its upper partner and possibly the rest of your bite. When you see another specialist, don't act like you know too much. Get your records, models, x-rays, etc. Your new models with your next specialist will show what is happening with your bite--make sure he writes it down. There are a lot of sinister things going on in the dental/medical professions so be careful. It is not your fault. I wish had a better answer for you about your wisdoms. I now pay $400-600 for extractions by a specialist who removes the ligament and debrides the bone. I have heard that there a very few (maybe only 10) dentists in the U.S. who do this. Hugs from me, too!
sandra1
06-17-2004, 04:08 PM
Tiffany,
I forgot to ask you.......why did you have some grinding of your teeth before? Another question......why is everybody on this board against this grinding buisness thing? The reason why I am asking is because in my situation my tmjd wasn't caused by my erupted tooth.....I had tmjd for 10 years before I started having this problem with my wisdom tooth. The erupted tooth was caused by the second splint that didn't cover the wisdoms, which caused my tmjd to worsen, a setback. So, I thought it seemed logical to have just that erupted tooth grind down to correct the open bite......but my dentist had proposed to grind some of the other teeth as well, but not the erupted wisdom tooth. That's what really bothered me, that he wasn't going to grind that bad tooth and just grind the others.
So, what is your understanding on the grinding thing? When should this proceure be done on? I hope you understand my question.
I would like to hear from you. Thanks.
Sandi
I forgot to ask you.......why did you have some grinding of your teeth before? Another question......why is everybody on this board against this grinding buisness thing? The reason why I am asking is because in my situation my tmjd wasn't caused by my erupted tooth.....I had tmjd for 10 years before I started having this problem with my wisdom tooth. The erupted tooth was caused by the second splint that didn't cover the wisdoms, which caused my tmjd to worsen, a setback. So, I thought it seemed logical to have just that erupted tooth grind down to correct the open bite......but my dentist had proposed to grind some of the other teeth as well, but not the erupted wisdom tooth. That's what really bothered me, that he wasn't going to grind that bad tooth and just grind the others.
So, what is your understanding on the grinding thing? When should this proceure be done on? I hope you understand my question.
I would like to hear from you. Thanks.
Sandi
TiffanyAnn
06-17-2004, 08:54 PM
Tiffany,
I forgot to ask you.......why did you have some grinding of your teeth before? Another question......why is everybody on this board against this grinding buisness thing? The reason why I am asking is because in my situation my tmjd wasn't caused by my erupted tooth.....I had tmjd for 10 years before I started having this problem with my wisdom tooth. The erupted tooth was caused by the second splint that didn't cover the wisdoms, which caused my tmjd to worsen, a setback. So, I thought it seemed logical to have just that erupted tooth grind down to correct the open bite......but my dentist had proposed to grind some of the other teeth as well, but not the erupted wisdom tooth. That's what really bothered me, that he wasn't going to grind that bad tooth and just grind the others.
So, what is your understanding on the grinding thing? When should this proceure be done on? I hope you understand my question.
I would like to hear from you. Thanks.
Sandi
Sandi:
The dentists who did the grinding on my teeth did so with the promise that it would level out my bite and my TMJ would subside. I should have learned after the first grinding but the second dentist sounded so sure so I allowed it to be done again. The reason it's stupid to grind teeth is because teeth shift and it seems once they start the grinding the process could become endless. It makes me so irate because it has weakened my teeth. I would never allow another to grind on my teeth. I wish I had never allowed it to be done in the first place. If it was suggested to me now I'd tell them where to go and how fast. Of course, each of us has to decide for ourselves what will help, but I'd caution you to be extremely careful allowing your teeth to be ground. Once the tooth is gone you can't put it back.
Tiffany
I forgot to ask you.......why did you have some grinding of your teeth before? Another question......why is everybody on this board against this grinding buisness thing? The reason why I am asking is because in my situation my tmjd wasn't caused by my erupted tooth.....I had tmjd for 10 years before I started having this problem with my wisdom tooth. The erupted tooth was caused by the second splint that didn't cover the wisdoms, which caused my tmjd to worsen, a setback. So, I thought it seemed logical to have just that erupted tooth grind down to correct the open bite......but my dentist had proposed to grind some of the other teeth as well, but not the erupted wisdom tooth. That's what really bothered me, that he wasn't going to grind that bad tooth and just grind the others.
So, what is your understanding on the grinding thing? When should this proceure be done on? I hope you understand my question.
I would like to hear from you. Thanks.
Sandi
Sandi:
The dentists who did the grinding on my teeth did so with the promise that it would level out my bite and my TMJ would subside. I should have learned after the first grinding but the second dentist sounded so sure so I allowed it to be done again. The reason it's stupid to grind teeth is because teeth shift and it seems once they start the grinding the process could become endless. It makes me so irate because it has weakened my teeth. I would never allow another to grind on my teeth. I wish I had never allowed it to be done in the first place. If it was suggested to me now I'd tell them where to go and how fast. Of course, each of us has to decide for ourselves what will help, but I'd caution you to be extremely careful allowing your teeth to be ground. Once the tooth is gone you can't put it back.
Tiffany
sandra1
06-17-2004, 11:09 PM
Thanks Tiffany,
I will keep in mind what you said.
I am glad to hear you are doing fine on your phase 2 treatment. Wish you well in this process.
Sandi
I will keep in mind what you said.
I am glad to hear you are doing fine on your phase 2 treatment. Wish you well in this process.
Sandi
susanl95
06-18-2004, 01:25 AM
Edited due to identifying information..
sandra1
06-18-2004, 01:18 PM
Susan,
I live in Canada.
Why does your dentist want to grind your teeth?
Sandi
I live in Canada.
Why does your dentist want to grind your teeth?
Sandi
sandra1
06-19-2004, 08:04 PM
Feelines,
When you had your erupted molar taken out, did you have some relief from your pain in your jaw or tmjd? Has your bite been more stablized since then? And how did they take that one molar out for you?
I would love to hear from you regarding these questions. Thanks.
Sandi
When you had your erupted molar taken out, did you have some relief from your pain in your jaw or tmjd? Has your bite been more stablized since then? And how did they take that one molar out for you?
I would love to hear from you regarding these questions. Thanks.
Sandi
feelines
06-20-2004, 04:31 PM
Hi Sandi,
I literally jumped for joy and shouted upon getting that thing out. The doc said it would be fairly simple, but when he got it out, he said that everything was following into a cave; so in the process of taking it out, along with the ligament and debriding the bone, he also cleaned out the extremely toxic cavitation that had developed in the old extracted wisdom tooth area next to the molar. From what I hear, the dental establishment tries to hang the guys who do this for their patients, because it is one of the many coverups they are invested in perpetuating. Root canals can also aggravate this. I was well cared for pre-op with neural therapy and post-op with homeopathic remedies, lymphatic drainage remedy, microcurrent, and a take-home kit with complete instructions. I felt great! And yes, it definitely relieved the right tmj clicking along with the diagnostic splints I wore from that time forward. A lot has happened simce then, and I have other problems on my left side; so my story is very long and complicated. Where are you in Canada?
I literally jumped for joy and shouted upon getting that thing out. The doc said it would be fairly simple, but when he got it out, he said that everything was following into a cave; so in the process of taking it out, along with the ligament and debriding the bone, he also cleaned out the extremely toxic cavitation that had developed in the old extracted wisdom tooth area next to the molar. From what I hear, the dental establishment tries to hang the guys who do this for their patients, because it is one of the many coverups they are invested in perpetuating. Root canals can also aggravate this. I was well cared for pre-op with neural therapy and post-op with homeopathic remedies, lymphatic drainage remedy, microcurrent, and a take-home kit with complete instructions. I felt great! And yes, it definitely relieved the right tmj clicking along with the diagnostic splints I wore from that time forward. A lot has happened simce then, and I have other problems on my left side; so my story is very long and complicated. Where are you in Canada?
Thelma-Louise
06-20-2004, 09:44 PM
I had a dentist walk away from me as well I am still fuming over it. They are first in line when they see easy money and out the door when they see no future profit in you.
I had new crowns made that were lower than my natural teeth and am now in much more pain if that is of any help. One dentist I went to said that before he would grind teeth down he would have me wear a mouth guard for 1 year that he would practice on during that time to see what would be most comfortable and make a model of the guard before any grinding would be done - is that what your dentist did? I thought waiting a whole year for relief was too long - but here I am 2 months later and still in pain so what do I know, right?
I am curious about the teeth erruption as well. I have a upper wisdom tooth and lower molar that have both grown longer to meet one another and are no longer surrounded by any gum tissue (is that errupted?) and hurt beyond reason and yet the dentist I am seeing has stated repeatedly that removing them would not help. Yet since they are a source of great deal of pain I try to avoid them by moving my jaw differently - so what good is there in keeping them - couldn't I just wear a partial to replace those teeth?
I had new crowns made that were lower than my natural teeth and am now in much more pain if that is of any help. One dentist I went to said that before he would grind teeth down he would have me wear a mouth guard for 1 year that he would practice on during that time to see what would be most comfortable and make a model of the guard before any grinding would be done - is that what your dentist did? I thought waiting a whole year for relief was too long - but here I am 2 months later and still in pain so what do I know, right?
I am curious about the teeth erruption as well. I have a upper wisdom tooth and lower molar that have both grown longer to meet one another and are no longer surrounded by any gum tissue (is that errupted?) and hurt beyond reason and yet the dentist I am seeing has stated repeatedly that removing them would not help. Yet since they are a source of great deal of pain I try to avoid them by moving my jaw differently - so what good is there in keeping them - couldn't I just wear a partial to replace those teeth?
sandra1
06-21-2004, 08:05 PM
Feelines,
I am glad to hear that getting your erupted molar taken out had helped you.
I had visited my family dentist today and explained to him my situation regarding my erupted tooth and my former specialist. He had told me that removing my erupted widsom will cause more problems for me because if I did decided on removing it, the top wisdom tooth will evenually erupt as well, and in turn cause other bite problems. Just like you said eariler about what happens if you lose a 'partner'. I never mentioned a word about this issue to him.....he brought it up first. So, I pretty well knew from what he told me in our discussion that I had no other option except to grind that tooth down. So, we agreed that we will try to grind just that erupted wisdom and the top partner just alittle abit for now and see what happens. It was done in only a few minutes, and afterwards I told him that my erupted tooth wasn't banging so much with my other teeth, that it was starting to feel abit more even. Not even though, so we both agreed that would I come back again next Monday and try some more.....maybe. Already, I feel abit less tension in my jaw now......but I am not really sure just yet.....time will only tell. Also, today I called my former dentist's office to inform them that I wanted my dental/medical records and bite impressions for my family dentist....hopefully I can get them this week. So, I got some things done and moving for me.
Wish you a good evening.
Sandi I
I live in Nova Scotia
I am glad to hear that getting your erupted molar taken out had helped you.
I had visited my family dentist today and explained to him my situation regarding my erupted tooth and my former specialist. He had told me that removing my erupted widsom will cause more problems for me because if I did decided on removing it, the top wisdom tooth will evenually erupt as well, and in turn cause other bite problems. Just like you said eariler about what happens if you lose a 'partner'. I never mentioned a word about this issue to him.....he brought it up first. So, I pretty well knew from what he told me in our discussion that I had no other option except to grind that tooth down. So, we agreed that we will try to grind just that erupted wisdom and the top partner just alittle abit for now and see what happens. It was done in only a few minutes, and afterwards I told him that my erupted tooth wasn't banging so much with my other teeth, that it was starting to feel abit more even. Not even though, so we both agreed that would I come back again next Monday and try some more.....maybe. Already, I feel abit less tension in my jaw now......but I am not really sure just yet.....time will only tell. Also, today I called my former dentist's office to inform them that I wanted my dental/medical records and bite impressions for my family dentist....hopefully I can get them this week. So, I got some things done and moving for me.
Wish you a good evening.
Sandi I
I live in Nova Scotia
sandra1
06-21-2004, 08:27 PM
Thelma Louise,
My dentist made a new bite splint for my teeth first and told me I needed to wait at least a year before he would do any other work on me because I needed my jaw to settle down abit. The jaw has to be stablized more before they can do any kind of dental proceure.
So, do you still have pain in your teeth and that it's still no longer surrounded by any gum tissue?
Sandi
My dentist made a new bite splint for my teeth first and told me I needed to wait at least a year before he would do any other work on me because I needed my jaw to settle down abit. The jaw has to be stablized more before they can do any kind of dental proceure.
So, do you still have pain in your teeth and that it's still no longer surrounded by any gum tissue?
Sandi
Lexusteel
06-23-2004, 02:22 PM
<<I just got the worst news today from my dentist's office when I was planning on making a appointment for this proceure. They said I was unhappy with the treatments he had given me and he won't treat me anymore!!!!!! I was beside myself!!!>>
Sandi,
I was diagnosed with TMJ by a dentist who said I needed my teeth ground, so I was gonna get it done, had appt and all...then I did my research and found this board and found at that is NOT the thing to do. When I called to cancel my appt they were really snotty with me and said we have been doing this for 25 yrs, how could you question us Blah, Blah, Blah.....some drs/dentist are real meanies!!!!
Raquel
Sandi,
I was diagnosed with TMJ by a dentist who said I needed my teeth ground, so I was gonna get it done, had appt and all...then I did my research and found this board and found at that is NOT the thing to do. When I called to cancel my appt they were really snotty with me and said we have been doing this for 25 yrs, how could you question us Blah, Blah, Blah.....some drs/dentist are real meanies!!!!
Raquel
sandra1
06-24-2004, 12:19 AM
Raquel,
If you felt uncomforable with the idea of them grinding down your teeth or had any doubts about the proposed procedure, you had that right to refuse the treatments. Their response to you was not professional. In my case, the dentist had already made up his mind not to treat me any further simply because I was very disappointed and upset with his proposed treatment and he didn't reponded in a way that he should of.......he should of given me some reassurance that this treatment will work and explained to me why he wanted to do it this way, but he didn't.......he didn't like the questions I was asking him. All I wanted at that time was reassurance that this thing would work.....I was not satisfied with this whole thing. If he had alittle more compassion and understanding of my feelings, he could of spend more time talking to me, reassuring me, explain some things that I needed to know. He misunderstood me totally.....he didn't know me very well at all, considering that I had him for more than a year. He closed the door on me. I didn't.
Why did your dentist prosposed this treatment for you......what is your tmjd situation?
I believe that some grinding of the teeth can be beneficial in some cases.....but you still have to weigh the pros and cons concerning your own situation. If the dentist doesn't give you enough satisfaction(information, explanations, etc.) regarding a particular treatment, he is not doing his job.
Regardless of what happens in our situations, we can still open another door for us to get better.......
Sandi
If you felt uncomforable with the idea of them grinding down your teeth or had any doubts about the proposed procedure, you had that right to refuse the treatments. Their response to you was not professional. In my case, the dentist had already made up his mind not to treat me any further simply because I was very disappointed and upset with his proposed treatment and he didn't reponded in a way that he should of.......he should of given me some reassurance that this treatment will work and explained to me why he wanted to do it this way, but he didn't.......he didn't like the questions I was asking him. All I wanted at that time was reassurance that this thing would work.....I was not satisfied with this whole thing. If he had alittle more compassion and understanding of my feelings, he could of spend more time talking to me, reassuring me, explain some things that I needed to know. He misunderstood me totally.....he didn't know me very well at all, considering that I had him for more than a year. He closed the door on me. I didn't.
Why did your dentist prosposed this treatment for you......what is your tmjd situation?
I believe that some grinding of the teeth can be beneficial in some cases.....but you still have to weigh the pros and cons concerning your own situation. If the dentist doesn't give you enough satisfaction(information, explanations, etc.) regarding a particular treatment, he is not doing his job.
Regardless of what happens in our situations, we can still open another door for us to get better.......
Sandi
BLACKdragon78
06-24-2004, 01:36 AM
Hey :wave: ,
I dont have any wisdom teeth but my TMD specialist did want to grind my teeth down because my teeth touch more on the right side then they do on the left. I told him no...and he repected my decision. It just didn't make sense to grind my teeth down, I do enough of that on my own!
:rolleyes:
I dont have any wisdom teeth but my TMD specialist did want to grind my teeth down because my teeth touch more on the right side then they do on the left. I told him no...and he repected my decision. It just didn't make sense to grind my teeth down, I do enough of that on my own!
:rolleyes:
susanl95
06-24-2004, 12:09 PM
Edited due to identifying information..
sandra1
06-24-2004, 12:32 PM
Blackdragon,
You made the right decision because tmjd usually cannot be corrected by grinding down the teeth. We naturally grind down our teeth anyway, but I don't know how much. It's good that your dentist respected your decision......
Sandi
You made the right decision because tmjd usually cannot be corrected by grinding down the teeth. We naturally grind down our teeth anyway, but I don't know how much. It's good that your dentist respected your decision......
Sandi
sandra1
06-24-2004, 12:47 PM
Susan,
You had alot of work done on your teeth......I think doing any more dental work might cause more problems, except with the treatment of braces. I hope you will find some relief for your two other teeth that are in pain.
Have a good evening.
Sandi
You had alot of work done on your teeth......I think doing any more dental work might cause more problems, except with the treatment of braces. I hope you will find some relief for your two other teeth that are in pain.
Have a good evening.
Sandi