StuckinaRut
06-17-2004, 08:47 PM
I am having a horrible week...I just feel like I am making no progress, that it's all in vain. I have been back to working out for nearly three weeks now and have seen no weight loss...I've fluctuated consistantly betwen 166 and 163, today I happen to be at 165. I am only 5'4", I need to lose another 30 to hit my ideal weight and I just feel like I can't do it. I've cut out white suger and flour from my diet (though I've cheated a couple times, nothing drastic though), I've been eating vegetables and fruits and drinking almost nothing but water, with the occassional soda (no more than one every few days or so), have had my splurge days, and I just don't know what to do.
I look down at myself and see nothing but cellulite, nearly shapeless legs, cankles, flabby arms, this gross belly. My torso is so short and I have 40DD breasts (thanks Mom), my hips are 41 inches, my waist is 35, and though everything is proportionately fat, it's still fat. I am disgusted by myself, the fact that at a 45 degree angle, my calf touches my thigh, that I can't walk in shorts unless I have bike shorts underneath because my thighs chafe (or however you spell that word), I can't wear cute clothes. I work with all these beautiful people and I just feel like everytime I eat they look at me like it's this disgusting act, even if it's only a salad. I constantly feel like people are looking at me, laughing, thinking how fat I am. I am always looking at others around me comparing myself to them, constantly feeling inferior to pretty much everyone. My boyfriend loves me unconditionally and tells me constantly that I am happy just as I am, but follows it with clarifying that he loves me for me, not for myshell, which though is sweet, makes me feel like he's saying he doen't find me physically attractive.
I am just in such a rut, I have never lost my motivation like I feel like I am this time around. I was at the gym today and after 25 minutes I just gave up because looking at my legs, my arms, feeling my gut jiggle as I rode the bike and just being surrounded by these fit, firm, toned people just made me feel like what's the point. I just don't know what to do. I need help, I need support...I need something and I don't know what it is.
I look down at myself and see nothing but cellulite, nearly shapeless legs, cankles, flabby arms, this gross belly. My torso is so short and I have 40DD breasts (thanks Mom), my hips are 41 inches, my waist is 35, and though everything is proportionately fat, it's still fat. I am disgusted by myself, the fact that at a 45 degree angle, my calf touches my thigh, that I can't walk in shorts unless I have bike shorts underneath because my thighs chafe (or however you spell that word), I can't wear cute clothes. I work with all these beautiful people and I just feel like everytime I eat they look at me like it's this disgusting act, even if it's only a salad. I constantly feel like people are looking at me, laughing, thinking how fat I am. I am always looking at others around me comparing myself to them, constantly feeling inferior to pretty much everyone. My boyfriend loves me unconditionally and tells me constantly that I am happy just as I am, but follows it with clarifying that he loves me for me, not for myshell, which though is sweet, makes me feel like he's saying he doen't find me physically attractive.
I am just in such a rut, I have never lost my motivation like I feel like I am this time around. I was at the gym today and after 25 minutes I just gave up because looking at my legs, my arms, feeling my gut jiggle as I rode the bike and just being surrounded by these fit, firm, toned people just made me feel like what's the point. I just don't know what to do. I need help, I need support...I need something and I don't know what it is.
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BarbinMD
06-17-2004, 09:17 PM
I could have written your post....you sound just like me. I am 5'3" and weigh 175 pounds...I have lost 10 pounds...I go to the gym...changed the way I eat...and only lost 10 pounds since February...sniffle sniffle. I am having a Tummy tuck, Breast lift with augmentation and Lipo of inner and outer thighs..and flanks on July 8th...and I am so disgusted with myself for not losing more weight...sniffle again. Don't get discouraged going to the gym!! Those toned people may have been in our shoes at one time... Good luck
Barb in Maryland
Barb in Maryland
Grimalkin
06-17-2004, 11:12 PM
I am having a horrible week...I just feel like I am making no progress, that it's all in vain. I have been back to working out for nearly three weeks now and have seen no weight loss...I've fluctuated consistantly betwen 166 and 163, today I happen to be at 165. I am only 5'4", I need to lose another 30 to hit my ideal weight and I just feel like I can't do it.
First of all, you can do it. But there is no instant solution, and sometimes, the weight loss is going to go slowly. Although I have little room to talk, weighing yourself constantly can be an enormous demotivator if you're not seeing constant progress, and it can make it enormously discouraging to go on if you don't see the results you feel you've earned through your lifestyle changes. Everyone gets discouraged at some time or another, but the key is to never give in to those little devils in your head telling you that it is all for naught. It will be worth it, in terms of your overall health, alone. You can beat this, though it may take longer than you expect!
I've cut out white suger and flour from my diet (though I've cheated a couple times, nothing drastic though), I've been eating vegetables and fruits and drinking almost nothing but water, with the occassional soda (no more than one every few days or so), have had my splurge days, and I just don't know what to do.
You need to be congratulated for altering your diet the way you have, so far. It's a big step, and one that many people aren't ready for. Stay with it! I don't want to impose my own regimen (which is rather spartan and harsh, by dieting and exercise standards) on you, but if I might be so bold as to share my opinions of ONE approach to consider: avoid fried foods, avoid fruits in large quantities (because they have sugar content - maybe not white sugar, but it can still eventually metabolize to fat, unless used up during daily activity/exercise), stick to diet colas if you drink them. Reduce your caloric intake, for a time, to see if that can help in combination with an exercise program. There are many tools out there that tell you a person at X activity level, Y height, and Z weight should have XXX calories per day. Work from there - for example, if your "normal" intake should be 2000 calories, try 1500 a day. That way, you're not starving yourself, but you ARE lowering your intake.
I can not emphasize enough how important it is to continue exercising. Envying "those people" at the gym and thinking "I'll never be there" is a surefire way to cut your enthusiasm to pieces for self-improvement. Overcome it! You're overweight, yes, and it's a hard thing to hide. I'm overweight too - but I'm doing something about it! That makes all the difference in the world. There are a few ways to appease your sense of modesty, though: wear loose sweats, go to the gym at off hours where there are less people, or heck, if you live in an apartment and the complex provides a mini-gym place, use that!
I look down at myself and see nothing but cellulite, nearly shapeless legs, cankles, flabby arms, this gross belly. My torso is so short and I have 40DD breasts (thanks Mom), my hips are 41 inches, my waist is 35, and though everything is proportionately fat, it's still fat. I am disgusted by myself, the fact that at a 45 degree angle, my calf touches my thigh, that I can't walk in shorts unless I have bike shorts underneath because my thighs chafe (or however you spell that word), I can't wear cute clothes. I work with all these beautiful people and I just feel like everytime I eat they look at me like it's this disgusting act, even if it's only a salad. I constantly feel like people are looking at me, laughing, thinking how fat I am. I am always looking at others around me comparing myself to them, constantly feeling inferior to pretty much everyone.
Stop. That's all I can say, and I know how silly that sounds from another person that isn't living through what your living. But I've lived through my own version of it, and I realize how paralyzing, humiliating, and socially impairing it can be. It can even affect your love life, as my own experiences have shown - I didn't want my companion to see my body, because I was ashamed of it, and didn't want to subject her to... me. And no matter how one tries, one who is significantly overweight can't hide that fact well - it's simply the way it is. But the paranoia and labelling everyone but yourself as "beautiful people" has got to stop, luv. It has to. They are not better than you, they are simply different than you, and their own lives have generated their own problems - weight gain simply wasn't one of them. Remember, you are TRYING. Don't lose that spark of encouragement. Fashion a reasonable goal - try to attain it. If you can't, by the end of that goalsetting period, do not surrender. Rather, look at what you've done, and how you can change it.
My boyfriend loves me unconditionally and tells me constantly that I am happy just as I am, but follows it with clarifying that he loves me for me, not for myshell, which though is sweet, makes me feel like he's saying he doen't find me physically attractive.
My girlfriend said the same thing, and felt the same way as you describe your boyfriend. One large mistake is to take those words for granted, or to not believe their sincerity. It is a disservice to the person that loves you to attach a "but..." to their statements. That's your inner devils talking to you, trying to make even the good parts of your life have a gray lining. Feed off your boyfriend's love, dear lady. But as my girlfriend said to me, when I finally began showing results in weight loss, "Do this for yourself, not for me."
And that is what you have to do. You are trying to lose weight and get healthier for you, primarily. Be it for vanity, overall health, or a combination of both, YOU are going to reap the primary benefits. YOU must conquer these personal doubts, or shout above them, to maintain your enthusiasm and drive.
I am just in such a rut, I have never lost my motivation like I feel like I am this time around. I was at the gym today and after 25 minutes I just gave up because looking at my legs, my arms, feeling my gut jiggle as I rode the bike and just being surrounded by these fit, firm, toned people just made me feel like what's the point. I just don't know what to do. I need help, I need support...I need something and I don't know what it is.
You need self-confidence, and that is the hardest thing to gain, in the process of weight loss. It's such a personal mission and personal goal, and each person is different in the way they feel, what they want, and how they work toward their goals. The first thing you need to do is stop looking at yourself as something less than normal. People throughout the world are overweight... many don't do a thing about it. I didn't, for years. But now, I am, and that makes me different. That gives me control of my life. And it gives you control of your life, lass.
You must work through this. If you do not see immediate results, tweak what you're doing slightly, and work from there. Also, go to a general practitioner, or a personal trainer, pay a small fee and ask for advice. They can help you learn "right" ways to pursue your path.
You can do this, absolutely and without a doubt. But you must concentrate on yourself, and not on what you feel the perceptions of others in the gym are. To hell with them, to be honest. This is about you. Be at the center of your own world, when working out. Concentrate on what you are accomplishing, not how far you have left to go. You might be pleased to note that some of these people that you envy recognize and applaud you for your efforts.
You're trying. Keep trying, keep doing, and stay focussed on your goals. Don't let the little devils in your head paralyze you into inaction.
You can do this.
-Grim
First of all, you can do it. But there is no instant solution, and sometimes, the weight loss is going to go slowly. Although I have little room to talk, weighing yourself constantly can be an enormous demotivator if you're not seeing constant progress, and it can make it enormously discouraging to go on if you don't see the results you feel you've earned through your lifestyle changes. Everyone gets discouraged at some time or another, but the key is to never give in to those little devils in your head telling you that it is all for naught. It will be worth it, in terms of your overall health, alone. You can beat this, though it may take longer than you expect!
I've cut out white suger and flour from my diet (though I've cheated a couple times, nothing drastic though), I've been eating vegetables and fruits and drinking almost nothing but water, with the occassional soda (no more than one every few days or so), have had my splurge days, and I just don't know what to do.
You need to be congratulated for altering your diet the way you have, so far. It's a big step, and one that many people aren't ready for. Stay with it! I don't want to impose my own regimen (which is rather spartan and harsh, by dieting and exercise standards) on you, but if I might be so bold as to share my opinions of ONE approach to consider: avoid fried foods, avoid fruits in large quantities (because they have sugar content - maybe not white sugar, but it can still eventually metabolize to fat, unless used up during daily activity/exercise), stick to diet colas if you drink them. Reduce your caloric intake, for a time, to see if that can help in combination with an exercise program. There are many tools out there that tell you a person at X activity level, Y height, and Z weight should have XXX calories per day. Work from there - for example, if your "normal" intake should be 2000 calories, try 1500 a day. That way, you're not starving yourself, but you ARE lowering your intake.
I can not emphasize enough how important it is to continue exercising. Envying "those people" at the gym and thinking "I'll never be there" is a surefire way to cut your enthusiasm to pieces for self-improvement. Overcome it! You're overweight, yes, and it's a hard thing to hide. I'm overweight too - but I'm doing something about it! That makes all the difference in the world. There are a few ways to appease your sense of modesty, though: wear loose sweats, go to the gym at off hours where there are less people, or heck, if you live in an apartment and the complex provides a mini-gym place, use that!
I look down at myself and see nothing but cellulite, nearly shapeless legs, cankles, flabby arms, this gross belly. My torso is so short and I have 40DD breasts (thanks Mom), my hips are 41 inches, my waist is 35, and though everything is proportionately fat, it's still fat. I am disgusted by myself, the fact that at a 45 degree angle, my calf touches my thigh, that I can't walk in shorts unless I have bike shorts underneath because my thighs chafe (or however you spell that word), I can't wear cute clothes. I work with all these beautiful people and I just feel like everytime I eat they look at me like it's this disgusting act, even if it's only a salad. I constantly feel like people are looking at me, laughing, thinking how fat I am. I am always looking at others around me comparing myself to them, constantly feeling inferior to pretty much everyone.
Stop. That's all I can say, and I know how silly that sounds from another person that isn't living through what your living. But I've lived through my own version of it, and I realize how paralyzing, humiliating, and socially impairing it can be. It can even affect your love life, as my own experiences have shown - I didn't want my companion to see my body, because I was ashamed of it, and didn't want to subject her to... me. And no matter how one tries, one who is significantly overweight can't hide that fact well - it's simply the way it is. But the paranoia and labelling everyone but yourself as "beautiful people" has got to stop, luv. It has to. They are not better than you, they are simply different than you, and their own lives have generated their own problems - weight gain simply wasn't one of them. Remember, you are TRYING. Don't lose that spark of encouragement. Fashion a reasonable goal - try to attain it. If you can't, by the end of that goalsetting period, do not surrender. Rather, look at what you've done, and how you can change it.
My boyfriend loves me unconditionally and tells me constantly that I am happy just as I am, but follows it with clarifying that he loves me for me, not for myshell, which though is sweet, makes me feel like he's saying he doen't find me physically attractive.
My girlfriend said the same thing, and felt the same way as you describe your boyfriend. One large mistake is to take those words for granted, or to not believe their sincerity. It is a disservice to the person that loves you to attach a "but..." to their statements. That's your inner devils talking to you, trying to make even the good parts of your life have a gray lining. Feed off your boyfriend's love, dear lady. But as my girlfriend said to me, when I finally began showing results in weight loss, "Do this for yourself, not for me."
And that is what you have to do. You are trying to lose weight and get healthier for you, primarily. Be it for vanity, overall health, or a combination of both, YOU are going to reap the primary benefits. YOU must conquer these personal doubts, or shout above them, to maintain your enthusiasm and drive.
I am just in such a rut, I have never lost my motivation like I feel like I am this time around. I was at the gym today and after 25 minutes I just gave up because looking at my legs, my arms, feeling my gut jiggle as I rode the bike and just being surrounded by these fit, firm, toned people just made me feel like what's the point. I just don't know what to do. I need help, I need support...I need something and I don't know what it is.
You need self-confidence, and that is the hardest thing to gain, in the process of weight loss. It's such a personal mission and personal goal, and each person is different in the way they feel, what they want, and how they work toward their goals. The first thing you need to do is stop looking at yourself as something less than normal. People throughout the world are overweight... many don't do a thing about it. I didn't, for years. But now, I am, and that makes me different. That gives me control of my life. And it gives you control of your life, lass.
You must work through this. If you do not see immediate results, tweak what you're doing slightly, and work from there. Also, go to a general practitioner, or a personal trainer, pay a small fee and ask for advice. They can help you learn "right" ways to pursue your path.
You can do this, absolutely and without a doubt. But you must concentrate on yourself, and not on what you feel the perceptions of others in the gym are. To hell with them, to be honest. This is about you. Be at the center of your own world, when working out. Concentrate on what you are accomplishing, not how far you have left to go. You might be pleased to note that some of these people that you envy recognize and applaud you for your efforts.
You're trying. Keep trying, keep doing, and stay focussed on your goals. Don't let the little devils in your head paralyze you into inaction.
You can do this.
-Grim
DLynn
06-17-2004, 11:55 PM
Hey stuckinarut~
I know how ur feeling I feel like i can't do it either. But I thought if you like we can keep each other motivated on Monday I'm starting weight watchers and I have a bet with my boss....Hopefully that will help my motivation.....And I'm going to work out. You can do it though. I've lost weight but I put it back on because I'm a junk food junkie so when I loose it this time I'm sticking with my diet. I've seen your posts in other rooms so I know we have the same goals...we should keep each other updated weekly on the weight loss. Well I hope to hear from u soon.
Dlynn
I know how ur feeling I feel like i can't do it either. But I thought if you like we can keep each other motivated on Monday I'm starting weight watchers and I have a bet with my boss....Hopefully that will help my motivation.....And I'm going to work out. You can do it though. I've lost weight but I put it back on because I'm a junk food junkie so when I loose it this time I'm sticking with my diet. I've seen your posts in other rooms so I know we have the same goals...we should keep each other updated weekly on the weight loss. Well I hope to hear from u soon.
Dlynn
angelgrl28
06-18-2004, 11:18 AM
I feel the same way I am on weight watchers and I am starving. I lost in the first 2 weeks and I didnt even follow it exaxctly then when I did follow the program exactly and didnt really go over my points I lost 0.2lb in a week I was so discouraged but I went into the meeting and came out feeling a lot better and that I would do better this week and lose more than 0.2 lb, but its the end of the week and the weekend is coming (which is hard to stick to the program) and I felt like I lost no weight and I have just been starving myself. I need a different program to go on because weight watchers is leaving me way too hungry.
I am also discouraged because my friend that is doing it with me is losing weight (she is also on stackers with ephedra in it she stocked up beofre the took them off the market) I just feel like **** that Im not losing weight I am following the program and I am not eating junk i am eating as healthy aspossibly can I only drink water and I am still so hungry at the end of the day.
I am also discouraged because my friend that is doing it with me is losing weight (she is also on stackers with ephedra in it she stocked up beofre the took them off the market) I just feel like **** that Im not losing weight I am following the program and I am not eating junk i am eating as healthy aspossibly can I only drink water and I am still so hungry at the end of the day.
joquiero
06-18-2004, 11:27 AM
Stuckinarut
I know how you feel. When I ballooned to 150 i lost 5 pounds right about but then spent almost 2 years losing the rest.
I have an idea for you. When I recently got into the best shape in my life I did so be jump starting my diet by fasting for two days first - drinking just water and couple of grapes if ABSOLUTELY desperate. Its very difficult but you feel great after wards and your stomach shrinks. Also, after the fast i ate nothing but veggies, nuts/seeds, tofu (or fish/chicken if your not a vegetarian) and a little fruit - absolutely NO bread/pasta/rice. Eventually you can reintroduce carbs, but initially, focus entirely on carb free diet. Also, keep your portion size small. Be conscious of eating food JUST to quench your hunger not for pleasure.
I'm in the process of following my own advice (i started to prepare for fast yesterday by not eating carbs and am fasting today) and I do acknowledge that it is very difficult - but it is doable.
I know how you feel. When I ballooned to 150 i lost 5 pounds right about but then spent almost 2 years losing the rest.
I have an idea for you. When I recently got into the best shape in my life I did so be jump starting my diet by fasting for two days first - drinking just water and couple of grapes if ABSOLUTELY desperate. Its very difficult but you feel great after wards and your stomach shrinks. Also, after the fast i ate nothing but veggies, nuts/seeds, tofu (or fish/chicken if your not a vegetarian) and a little fruit - absolutely NO bread/pasta/rice. Eventually you can reintroduce carbs, but initially, focus entirely on carb free diet. Also, keep your portion size small. Be conscious of eating food JUST to quench your hunger not for pleasure.
I'm in the process of following my own advice (i started to prepare for fast yesterday by not eating carbs and am fasting today) and I do acknowledge that it is very difficult - but it is doable.
Acemartini
06-18-2004, 12:24 PM
Angelgirl - I was also on WW a couple years ago. I also lost .2 or .4 lbs here and there while everyone else just zoomed past me. You know what I finally realized? They zoomed because they made much more of a concentrated effort to succeed. They worked much harder than I. I am happy to say I did make goal before I got pregnant. I have since "made goal" again after my daughter's birth. I did not attend meetings but I continued the points program & journaling.
Are you staying within points? Do you eat at the low end of your range, high end or middle? Do you eat breakfast, lunch & dinner? Do you drink your water, eat your veg and milk?? Talk to people at your meetings & get advice. You might be surprised at what you might be doing "wrong."
Good luck!
Are you staying within points? Do you eat at the low end of your range, high end or middle? Do you eat breakfast, lunch & dinner? Do you drink your water, eat your veg and milk?? Talk to people at your meetings & get advice. You might be surprised at what you might be doing "wrong."
Good luck!
angelgrl28
06-18-2004, 12:37 PM
I stay in my points most of the foods I eat are at the low end either 1 or 2 points except for dinner which is about 5 to 8 point. I ONLY drink water. I eat fruit I dont eat much veggies but I try, I eat non fat yogart. I eat whole wheat bread and try to eat as many low point things in the day. I also eat salads with fat free dressing too. That is why i cant understand why I am not losing I feel like I am starving myself and my body is just conserving because i am not getting enough food.
Yes i do eat breakfast lunch and dinner I make sure I definately eat breakfast thats y i cant understand, I feel uncomfortable at the meetings.
Yes i do eat breakfast lunch and dinner I make sure I definately eat breakfast thats y i cant understand, I feel uncomfortable at the meetings.
DLynn
06-18-2004, 06:16 PM
Hey guys,
Well what got me to "Motivated" to loose weight is I saw my friend in which I hadn't seen in 9 months and she lost 40 lbs. And did it in 6 mths I asked her how she did it and she said the first two weeks was so hard because she was sooo hungry but she said its all about proportions....plus she works out at a gym everyday but sundays. so I thought well if she can do I can too. And I mean she looks awesome that 40 lbs made a huge difference. So I am gonna do weight watchers on Monday to help with my "proportions" and I am going to work out 5 x's a week either running, jump roping, or bicycling and do weight training 3 x's a week. But she said that after the 2 weeks her "stomach shrank" and she was full eating smaller proportions and of course no sugars well a little but not like binges of chocolate and ice cream. So i'll try it and i'll let u guys know.
Dlynn
Well what got me to "Motivated" to loose weight is I saw my friend in which I hadn't seen in 9 months and she lost 40 lbs. And did it in 6 mths I asked her how she did it and she said the first two weeks was so hard because she was sooo hungry but she said its all about proportions....plus she works out at a gym everyday but sundays. so I thought well if she can do I can too. And I mean she looks awesome that 40 lbs made a huge difference. So I am gonna do weight watchers on Monday to help with my "proportions" and I am going to work out 5 x's a week either running, jump roping, or bicycling and do weight training 3 x's a week. But she said that after the 2 weeks her "stomach shrank" and she was full eating smaller proportions and of course no sugars well a little but not like binges of chocolate and ice cream. So i'll try it and i'll let u guys know.
Dlynn
lhc1964
06-19-2004, 01:16 PM
Angelgirl - I am doing WW now. Are you making sure that you eat all of your points each day? Example: my points for the day are 24. For breakfast I will have 2 1/2 slices of bacon (2 points) 2 slices of bread (0 points) and a cup of yogurt (1 point). For lunch I will have a Healthy Choice or Smart Ones dinner (4 - 6 points) and some fruit (1 point) for a mid afternoon snack I might have some carrots, cucumbers, or more fruit (0 -1 point). That leaves me with enough points left for supper that I can have whatever my family is having for supper (without having to fix myself something different from them). You have to make sure that you are eating all of your points each day. I don't feel hungry and I have averaged 2.3 lbs weight loss per week. That may not sound like alot but losing weight slowly is the best way to lose it. That way you can keep it off. Hope this helps and good luck........Don't quit !!!!!!
syndyhall
06-19-2004, 03:27 PM
You can do it. You are in my exact same shoes. I am 5'7 and 250 lbs. and I feel like giving up, but you've got to stay strong. this board is great for support and all. I know exactly how you are feeling.
dreamer40
06-19-2004, 07:02 PM
I understand your plight been there done that and failed. but you have to realize one thing, you did not fail, the diet failed you, it failed in that it did not address the real reason people become overfat.
eating less to weigh less is a myth, they forget to take the bodies reaction to famines into consideration, and they fail to tell you, (maybe they just don't know but I doubt it) that when you force the body through caloiric deficits even minor deficits to use fat to make up the difference the body gets the wrong message that you are trying to send.
you are telling it that the food supply sometimes is restricted (it doesn't know you are trying to lose weight all it knows it what it gets or don't get)and the body must be prepared for those times of restriction (In your case underfueling to lose weight) by replenishing fat stores when it gets the chance, your body releases hormones such as galanin which increases the desire for fatty foods like ice cream, and other hormones are reduced like leptin, which is the signal to the body that the fat cells are being depleted as the famine continues.
leptin is how the body keeps track on exactly how many caloires are stored in the form of fat, reduce that through semi starvation, and for some people it doesn't have to be severe, and poof the body knows the fat stores need to be replenished to prepare future famines, that to the body are sure to come since it happend before, that is why undereating or eating less causes eventual fat gain, and muscles are used too to make up deficits too when dieting and are not preserved through exercise.
with me so far? they fail to tell you about the muscles being cannabalised, especially during the first weeks that is why people lose alot of weight at first when they diet because muscles are dense and heavy, and as the diet continues the loss decreases as fat has twice as many caloires as muscles, and is burned too more slowly, and they fail to tell you that undereating for any reason, slows the metabolsim
want to know what your metabolism is without going through a bunch of expensive tests? take your temps several times a day for a few days with a murcury thermometer. if the average is in the 97 or 96 range your metabolism is in conservation mode.
another way to tell is how motivated to exercise you are, how much do you have to push yourself to exercise, you say exercise your body says nope. the more you have to force it the more likely your metabolism is slowed down to conservation mode, I mean biologically it doesn't make sense to burn hot when the food suppy is restricted.
too they fail to tell you also that the purpose of excess fat (outside the normal healthy amounts) is to survive famines pure and simple, it is not rocket science to realize that, fat is for famine survival and famines are the triggor for this fat storage, whether from dieting or just plain to busy to eat enough on time and not prioitizing the bodies fuel need, going hungry is not benign, there are serious side affects of which I am sure you know about
binging, preoccupation with food, (if the body didn't get you to think about food when it needed it and bug you about it you may not think of eating before you starve to death)lack of desire for exercise, headaches, sleepiness, depression, muslce wasting away, (muscles keep the metabolism fired so to the body it is a fuel need threat if food is restricted for any reason)and of course fat gain.
So eliminate the famine you eliminate the body's need for fat , and poof the body takes control and causes an increase in metabolism, (eating consistently over a several month period raises the metabolsim better than exercise)decrease in appetite and the body uses fat to make up the difference without you having to force it thorugh caloiric deficits, the problem with this approach is that you have to regain trust in the body's ability to look out for your health then well being, meaning we have to trust that in an enviroment of optimum food availability and consistently eating that food whenever and in how ever amounts the body demands, can we show the body that fat is unecessary and burdensome to survival,
the body knows that excess fat is beneficial only when there are periodic famines (such as dieting to lose weight) but not healthy when food is abundant and eaten on teh body demand basis, it will make the necessary adjustments if we just get out of it's way.
Savvy what I said? I hope you don't try to force your body to use fat via reduced caloiric intake, such as some on this board are recommending, and in fact some are doing it, I suggest that all sit back and reflect on what they doing to their bodies and what message they are sending. hunger is not benign. in fact muscles are cannablised and the heart is a muscle kidneys are cannablised any protein in the body is used for fuel, fat is not solely used by itself to make up deficits of caloire intake.
it is not coincidental that when you are dieting or underfueling for any reason that thoughts of food have to be fought back they cravings for junk have to be fought with sheer willpower, and that hunger has to be fought with all kinds of tactics to try and subdue the survival mechnisms triggored by undereating. whether using appetite suppressants, drinking lots fo water, trying not to think about food by exercising to suppress that appetite, but sooner or later that appetite gets the upper hand, if it didn't we would all starve to death dieting before we realized we have damaged our bodies and are starving to death.
that is why people keep having to diet again and again, they lose the weight maintain a while and gain it back go back on the diet get it down, etc, and after a while many find that they can lose less and less, as the diets have to get more restrictive to fight the bodies survival mechinisms and the battle continues for life while you get fatter and fatter, until you just cannot tolerate the diets anymore and your body is very thrifty, all for the sake of your pitiful survival.
is it worth it to you to fight your body thereby damaging your heart, kidneys glandalar systems etc? do you honestly think you can do that for the rest of your life? if famining even mildly was the cure for overfatness then we would not need to keep dieting the fat off over and over, there would be no need for more diets, humans have tried to control their weight by undereating for thousands of years, it is not only in our century that this idea has come about, yet it fails in 95 percent of the cases.
what happens to the other 5 percent? (this preludes those who dieted weight off and really were not overweight in the first place) they eventually die from malnutrtion. these we call anorexics, they do not have strong survival mechnisms so their bodies do not fight their desire for thinness by increasing appetite or binging, not usually until it is too late.
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eating less to weigh less is a myth, they forget to take the bodies reaction to famines into consideration, and they fail to tell you, (maybe they just don't know but I doubt it) that when you force the body through caloiric deficits even minor deficits to use fat to make up the difference the body gets the wrong message that you are trying to send.
you are telling it that the food supply sometimes is restricted (it doesn't know you are trying to lose weight all it knows it what it gets or don't get)and the body must be prepared for those times of restriction (In your case underfueling to lose weight) by replenishing fat stores when it gets the chance, your body releases hormones such as galanin which increases the desire for fatty foods like ice cream, and other hormones are reduced like leptin, which is the signal to the body that the fat cells are being depleted as the famine continues.
leptin is how the body keeps track on exactly how many caloires are stored in the form of fat, reduce that through semi starvation, and for some people it doesn't have to be severe, and poof the body knows the fat stores need to be replenished to prepare future famines, that to the body are sure to come since it happend before, that is why undereating or eating less causes eventual fat gain, and muscles are used too to make up deficits too when dieting and are not preserved through exercise.
with me so far? they fail to tell you about the muscles being cannabalised, especially during the first weeks that is why people lose alot of weight at first when they diet because muscles are dense and heavy, and as the diet continues the loss decreases as fat has twice as many caloires as muscles, and is burned too more slowly, and they fail to tell you that undereating for any reason, slows the metabolsim
want to know what your metabolism is without going through a bunch of expensive tests? take your temps several times a day for a few days with a murcury thermometer. if the average is in the 97 or 96 range your metabolism is in conservation mode.
another way to tell is how motivated to exercise you are, how much do you have to push yourself to exercise, you say exercise your body says nope. the more you have to force it the more likely your metabolism is slowed down to conservation mode, I mean biologically it doesn't make sense to burn hot when the food suppy is restricted.
too they fail to tell you also that the purpose of excess fat (outside the normal healthy amounts) is to survive famines pure and simple, it is not rocket science to realize that, fat is for famine survival and famines are the triggor for this fat storage, whether from dieting or just plain to busy to eat enough on time and not prioitizing the bodies fuel need, going hungry is not benign, there are serious side affects of which I am sure you know about
binging, preoccupation with food, (if the body didn't get you to think about food when it needed it and bug you about it you may not think of eating before you starve to death)lack of desire for exercise, headaches, sleepiness, depression, muslce wasting away, (muscles keep the metabolism fired so to the body it is a fuel need threat if food is restricted for any reason)and of course fat gain.
So eliminate the famine you eliminate the body's need for fat , and poof the body takes control and causes an increase in metabolism, (eating consistently over a several month period raises the metabolsim better than exercise)decrease in appetite and the body uses fat to make up the difference without you having to force it thorugh caloiric deficits, the problem with this approach is that you have to regain trust in the body's ability to look out for your health then well being, meaning we have to trust that in an enviroment of optimum food availability and consistently eating that food whenever and in how ever amounts the body demands, can we show the body that fat is unecessary and burdensome to survival,
the body knows that excess fat is beneficial only when there are periodic famines (such as dieting to lose weight) but not healthy when food is abundant and eaten on teh body demand basis, it will make the necessary adjustments if we just get out of it's way.
Savvy what I said? I hope you don't try to force your body to use fat via reduced caloiric intake, such as some on this board are recommending, and in fact some are doing it, I suggest that all sit back and reflect on what they doing to their bodies and what message they are sending. hunger is not benign. in fact muscles are cannablised and the heart is a muscle kidneys are cannablised any protein in the body is used for fuel, fat is not solely used by itself to make up deficits of caloire intake.
it is not coincidental that when you are dieting or underfueling for any reason that thoughts of food have to be fought back they cravings for junk have to be fought with sheer willpower, and that hunger has to be fought with all kinds of tactics to try and subdue the survival mechnisms triggored by undereating. whether using appetite suppressants, drinking lots fo water, trying not to think about food by exercising to suppress that appetite, but sooner or later that appetite gets the upper hand, if it didn't we would all starve to death dieting before we realized we have damaged our bodies and are starving to death.
that is why people keep having to diet again and again, they lose the weight maintain a while and gain it back go back on the diet get it down, etc, and after a while many find that they can lose less and less, as the diets have to get more restrictive to fight the bodies survival mechinisms and the battle continues for life while you get fatter and fatter, until you just cannot tolerate the diets anymore and your body is very thrifty, all for the sake of your pitiful survival.
is it worth it to you to fight your body thereby damaging your heart, kidneys glandalar systems etc? do you honestly think you can do that for the rest of your life? if famining even mildly was the cure for overfatness then we would not need to keep dieting the fat off over and over, there would be no need for more diets, humans have tried to control their weight by undereating for thousands of years, it is not only in our century that this idea has come about, yet it fails in 95 percent of the cases.
what happens to the other 5 percent? (this preludes those who dieted weight off and really were not overweight in the first place) they eventually die from malnutrtion. these we call anorexics, they do not have strong survival mechnisms so their bodies do not fight their desire for thinness by increasing appetite or binging, not usually until it is too late.
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