lee&jason
06-18-2004, 11:23 AM
My husband and I are very skinny people.. He is 6ft and weighs around 150 and I am 5 7 and weigh 105 to 110.. He is now working out w/ weights and I am doing the workouts everyday w/ a lady on tv every morning... Yogo and aerobics.. I was wondering is it safe for me and him to be working out or will we loose more weight and does anyone have any advise on how to gain weight ... He read to gain the weight in muscles he needs to have a diet of 3000 calories and he does good to get his daily 1600.. Can anyone help.. Should I skip the aerobics? since it burns fat.... Help, we want to get healthy and fit and don't know where to start...oh yeah we both eat anything we want and still can't gain a pound...
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girlygirl11
06-18-2004, 12:51 PM
1600 calories is a losing weight level, expecially since you both are working out a lot. For both heights, you are extremely underweight. This can harm your body in many ways- for ex. women could stop menstruating (if you already havent), which could lead to osteoporosis and fertility problems. I'm not sure about the effects for men, but I would guess that the fertility would be an issue too, as well as MANY others.
In order to be healthy, both of you would have to gain some weight. Start by eating AT LEAST 2500 CALORIES PER DAY (especially if you continue with workouts). If your husband is eating 1600 calories/day, he cannot be "eating anything he wants" as you say. 3000 Calories would be ideal, but I would calculate it using a BMR Calculator, and then adding more calories because of the excersise (this step is important!). I would also cut back on workouts (if not eliminate all strenous ones) . At such an low weight, you are really only straining your heart, which could lead to heart failure as this progresses.
Fill you meals with high calorie foods if you find you can't eat a lot (in size). Drink nutritional supplements instead of juices or things like that. Eat nuts and add then to whatever you can. Buy hearty breads (usually have some sort of nuts/seeds in them) and use those often. Eat 5-6 meals/snacks per day, even if youre not that hungry. You'll need to train your metabolism (which right now is really really slow) how to handle more food, and doing it regularly (like clockwork) is really ideal.
In order to be healthy, both of you would have to gain some weight. Start by eating AT LEAST 2500 CALORIES PER DAY (especially if you continue with workouts). If your husband is eating 1600 calories/day, he cannot be "eating anything he wants" as you say. 3000 Calories would be ideal, but I would calculate it using a BMR Calculator, and then adding more calories because of the excersise (this step is important!). I would also cut back on workouts (if not eliminate all strenous ones) . At such an low weight, you are really only straining your heart, which could lead to heart failure as this progresses.
Fill you meals with high calorie foods if you find you can't eat a lot (in size). Drink nutritional supplements instead of juices or things like that. Eat nuts and add then to whatever you can. Buy hearty breads (usually have some sort of nuts/seeds in them) and use those often. Eat 5-6 meals/snacks per day, even if youre not that hungry. You'll need to train your metabolism (which right now is really really slow) how to handle more food, and doing it regularly (like clockwork) is really ideal.
justme_
06-18-2004, 01:53 PM
i think maybe he eats what he wants, but he just doesn't want a lot.
modert
06-18-2004, 03:30 PM
When was the last time either of you had a physical or been to the doctor? There are physiological illnesses that can cause malnutrition and weight loss. If this is becoming a problem for either of you, you really should consult a doctor, even more specifically, an Endocrinologist.
More likely, however, you may have an improper diet. People always assume that poor dietary habits lead to weight gain, but it can also lead to weight loss, depending on the individual. You say you can eat anything you want, but if that consists primarily of junk food or highly processed convenience foods, you may be burning off the calories with your excercise, but not getting the nutrients you need.
More likely, however, you may have an improper diet. People always assume that poor dietary habits lead to weight gain, but it can also lead to weight loss, depending on the individual. You say you can eat anything you want, but if that consists primarily of junk food or highly processed convenience foods, you may be burning off the calories with your excercise, but not getting the nutrients you need.
lee&jason
06-18-2004, 04:11 PM
I go for yearly exams, I had a hysterctomy two years ago... They have ran test,like my thyroid? but there is nothing wrong.. My dad was skinny and so was my mom but now in their fifties have started to gain... I eat all day.. I believe the reason I am so skinny is because I am on the run all day.. I keep kids in my home.. My husband eats when he is home but doesn't eat much during the day in the summer because of the heat... He is also a very active hunter... He mentioned us getting some protein drinks but was not sure which one would be best for us...Do you have any suggestions?could you give me some suggestions on some other foods.. I have never had to watch my weight and I am not up on proteins and calories...
girlygirl11
06-18-2004, 06:41 PM
If by protein drinks you mean nutritional supplements, there are many to get- and they have basically the nutrients from a balanced meal. Some great ones are Ensure, Boost, and Resource. Many of them you can get at a drug store- or you could go to a health foods store.
Not eating "because of the heat" isn't an excuse...eating is a necessary thing- If your husband physically cant, then you need medical help to fix that. Otherwise, he has to find some way to get meals and/or snacks in (this is where the supplements would help). I would recommend getting some 250 Calorie ones for snacks/accompaniments to meals, and some higher calorie ones (i think I've seen 360, look for ones at 500 or so- or just drink 2) for meals during the day.
As for physicals- most doctors dont know what to look for when checking your health in realtion to a low weight. What he/she needs to do (or you can even do it at home with a blood pressure cuff) is:
- have you lie down for 10 minutes, then take your heart rate and blood pressure (while still lying)
-stand for 5 minutes, limit movement to none if possible, and take the BP and heartrate again
If the difference between the top number in the BP reading or your heartrate from lying to standing is more than 20, or very clsoe to- that is a problem. Your body is too weak to pump enough blood throughout your system, and your heart cannot pump fast enough to make up the jump (normal hearts can do this).
Also, do you feel weak at all during the day, or lightheaded? Are you constantly cold? Do your arms/ back/neck have a light layer of darker hair? Are you menstruating? If you answered yes to any of the first 3/ no to the last question, then you desperately need to gain some weight. These are signals from your body that it is struggling to work.
You can keep up the workouts, but I would change them. Make them less intense. For example, go for a walk instead of doing aerobics. You still get the excersise, but because as it is you are underweight, there really isn't much point to continue them..
Not eating "because of the heat" isn't an excuse...eating is a necessary thing- If your husband physically cant, then you need medical help to fix that. Otherwise, he has to find some way to get meals and/or snacks in (this is where the supplements would help). I would recommend getting some 250 Calorie ones for snacks/accompaniments to meals, and some higher calorie ones (i think I've seen 360, look for ones at 500 or so- or just drink 2) for meals during the day.
As for physicals- most doctors dont know what to look for when checking your health in realtion to a low weight. What he/she needs to do (or you can even do it at home with a blood pressure cuff) is:
- have you lie down for 10 minutes, then take your heart rate and blood pressure (while still lying)
-stand for 5 minutes, limit movement to none if possible, and take the BP and heartrate again
If the difference between the top number in the BP reading or your heartrate from lying to standing is more than 20, or very clsoe to- that is a problem. Your body is too weak to pump enough blood throughout your system, and your heart cannot pump fast enough to make up the jump (normal hearts can do this).
Also, do you feel weak at all during the day, or lightheaded? Are you constantly cold? Do your arms/ back/neck have a light layer of darker hair? Are you menstruating? If you answered yes to any of the first 3/ no to the last question, then you desperately need to gain some weight. These are signals from your body that it is struggling to work.
You can keep up the workouts, but I would change them. Make them less intense. For example, go for a walk instead of doing aerobics. You still get the excersise, but because as it is you are underweight, there really isn't much point to continue them..
Shane S
06-19-2004, 03:10 AM
You need calories (as many as it takes) and strength training. Cardio should never be eliminated entirely, but it shouldn't be overemphasized when the goal is weight gain. It's entirely possible 3000 calories is not nearly enough for him. Further, it's also possible to eat all day long and still get below maintenance calories.
I like Lean Mass Matrix. Since he can obviously spare the calories, something heavier, like Heavyweight Gainer 900, is a viable option.
I like Lean Mass Matrix. Since he can obviously spare the calories, something heavier, like Heavyweight Gainer 900, is a viable option.
lee&jason
06-20-2004, 02:31 PM
Just wanted to let yall know that my husband and I went to a vitamin store and he recommended Prolab n large 2..He said it had a better taste...it recommends 4 scoops twice a day in water but the guy said it was to thick like that and to break it up into 4 drinks instead of 2.. What are yall thoughts.. I am trying to keep up w/ the calories I eat but I dont' know how to come up w/ the calories.. Like i had a half a hamburger w/ cheese from the restaurant we ate last night and a yeast roll and a bake potato.. How do I know what to put down for calories.. Sorry for sounding so stupid but like I said I have never had to worry about caloires...l
girlygirl11
06-20-2004, 05:38 PM
That's ok.. why didn't you have the whole hamburger- you really CAN spare calories lol?
It really depends on the place for the calories. You can use calorie-counter sites, such as calorieking or just googling the food+"calories". I would guess that half a burger would be 200, a roll 150 and a potato 100 (if you have condiments, you'd add those too)- so your dinner total (food only, no condiments included) would be 450 Calories. If you're trying to gain weight, you should prolly raise that a bit, to 600-700 Calories, for ALL meals. (for snacks, I'd go as high as 500, low as 200, 2-3 snacks/day).
It really depends on the place for the calories. You can use calorie-counter sites, such as calorieking or just googling the food+"calories". I would guess that half a burger would be 200, a roll 150 and a potato 100 (if you have condiments, you'd add those too)- so your dinner total (food only, no condiments included) would be 450 Calories. If you're trying to gain weight, you should prolly raise that a bit, to 600-700 Calories, for ALL meals. (for snacks, I'd go as high as 500, low as 200, 2-3 snacks/day).
Shane S
06-20-2004, 06:19 PM
I wouldn't buy supplements in stores. I'd shop online. About half the price (even moreso if you were to shop at GNC).
Most weight gainers are pretty thick. Just add more liquid if you have trouble with them. N-Large is pretty much nothing more than sugar and cheap protein. Nonetheless, it is 600 calories, multiplied by twice daily that's an extra 1200 calories. If you add milk, we're talking close to 2000. Although I'd be wary of adding milk to the higher protein drinks, as there is potential for bloating. Speaking of milk, though, that's a good, healthy way to boost calorie intake. It's also good for the muscles and bones.
A lot of restaurants have nutritional information either at the restaurant or at their web site.
Most weight gainers are pretty thick. Just add more liquid if you have trouble with them. N-Large is pretty much nothing more than sugar and cheap protein. Nonetheless, it is 600 calories, multiplied by twice daily that's an extra 1200 calories. If you add milk, we're talking close to 2000. Although I'd be wary of adding milk to the higher protein drinks, as there is potential for bloating. Speaking of milk, though, that's a good, healthy way to boost calorie intake. It's also good for the muscles and bones.
A lot of restaurants have nutritional information either at the restaurant or at their web site.
lee&jason
06-21-2004, 09:42 AM
I want to thank yall for the help.. I tried the drink last night and that is the worst tasting stuff I have ever tasted...I used water like the directions said and my husband used milk and he said it was alot better.. It didn't say on the bottle that u could use milk so I was scared too.. I emailed prolab but it will probably take forever to hear back.. Do yall know if it is ok?
Shane S
06-21-2004, 07:04 PM
It's not necessarily a problem, although bloating may be an issue.
MRP's can be like that... it may just take you a while to get used to the taste. My favorite in terms of taste is Prolab Lean Mass Matrix cinnamon oatmeal. Even though I'm not a big EAS fan, I also really liked Myoplex Sport right from the beginning as well. Another option would be to cut back on the product a bit and mix it with something you do like the taste of. I love peanutbutter in my protein shakes. It's healthy, calorie dense, and tastes good.
MRP's can be like that... it may just take you a while to get used to the taste. My favorite in terms of taste is Prolab Lean Mass Matrix cinnamon oatmeal. Even though I'm not a big EAS fan, I also really liked Myoplex Sport right from the beginning as well. Another option would be to cut back on the product a bit and mix it with something you do like the taste of. I love peanutbutter in my protein shakes. It's healthy, calorie dense, and tastes good.
vio
06-21-2004, 07:54 PM
if your man wants to gain some weight i'm going to share the biggest secret of them all. are you ready? here it is. there are no secrets. he's a hardgainer just like i am. i was the same weight. 150 pounds at 6'0". now i'm 170 6'0" with only 8% body fat. now i'm going to tell you how he can gain 20 pounds of muscle. first off it's going to take about 12 to 15 months. he needs to work out ONLY twice a week NO MORE or he'll over train and lose weight. he needs to lift very heavy weights at low to mid reps. some people gain better when they lift enought weight to only get 4-5 reps per set, me i gain best at 6-8 reps per set. he needs to hit failure by the end of the work out, meaning he can't lift anymore. he should only do "compound movement" exercises. bench press, squats, military press, lat pull, arm curl (not really compound but necessary) and butterflies. that's it, absolutly NO "target exercises). his workouts should last no more then one hour (mine only take 45 minutes). then he needs rest and lot's of it. 8 hours of sleep every night. your muscles don't grow when you're working out, they grow when you're resting. he needs to comsume about 1 to 1 1/2 grams of protein per pound of body weight per day. his meals should equal 3000 total calories per day. NO cardio. first gain weight, then cut the fat. only 10 minutes of cardio before each work out to warm up and no more. the only supplement he needs is whey protein isolate (and or weight gainer if he can't eat 3000 calories a day). skip one workout every 5 weeks (to give his body a little extra resting time). that's it. if he follows that program he'll gain about 20 pound of muscle in 12-15 months. there are no gimicks or "super supplements" that will help. only hard work, rest and proper nutrition. he'll start to see real strength gains after about 2-3 months. at 6 months you'll really be able to tell a difference in his body. after 12 months you won't be able to keep your hands off of him. <grin> good luck. remember, when you're a "hardgainer", less workout more rest equal success. cheers.
Shane S
06-21-2004, 09:56 PM
Working out twice per week can very easily be undertraining, although it depends on the quality of the workout. Still, I'd bump to no less than three.
While compound exercises should be the core of any training program, isolation exercises should not necessarily be ignored.
Cardio isn't entirely about fat loss. There are, of course, other benefits (i.e. heart health). I would agree that it should be minimized, though not completely eliminated.
I'd give preference to a concentrate/isolate blend such as ON 100% Whey. Up the serving size if desired (more calories that way, too).
While compound exercises should be the core of any training program, isolation exercises should not necessarily be ignored.
Cardio isn't entirely about fat loss. There are, of course, other benefits (i.e. heart health). I would agree that it should be minimized, though not completely eliminated.
I'd give preference to a concentrate/isolate blend such as ON 100% Whey. Up the serving size if desired (more calories that way, too).
vio
06-22-2004, 01:02 AM
he's a hardgainer. working out the same muscle groups with very heavy weights three times a week is overtraining even for a genetically gifted person who has a predisposition to easily gaining muscle. even they only train the same body part a max of twice a week. the reason they are in the gym more often is because they target lift. he needs to do compound movement lifting. that means it works a large grouping of muscles at the same time as opposed to only a couple of muscles like the big guys do. a hardgainer actually needs more recovery time then a big guy because their muscles don't recover and grow as fast. if an easygainer can only work the same part a max of twice a week the a hardgainer certainly cannot work the same muscles more then twice a week. there are some hard gainers that only work out once a week and get great results over time. this guy has genetics working against him (just like i do i might add) which means that gaining weight is going to take a proportionately longer time. it is achievable but i guarantee you that if he works out three times a week, he will over train. as for only using whey protein and not weight gainer. that's fine as long as he can consume 3000 with just food. a whey protein serving has 20 grams of protein at about 115 calories. the body can only absorb approx. 25 grams of protein at a time. if you double up on your serving you'll only end up wasting 15 grams a protein (or 75% of the second serving). if he was just to get 2000 from food he would have to drink about 8-9 whey servings just to make up the extra 1000 calories. he only needs about 125-175 grams of protein a day. 9 of whey servings would be 180 grams of protein not including the protein from food. he would already be getting about 60-80 just from food. so essentially he would be wasting about 4 or 5 servings of whey protein just to consume enough calories. with a weight gainer, in one serving, he can drink 800 calories and thus eliminate 4 or 5 extra whey servings a day and save money as well. less wasted protein, less servings to drink and less money. sounds like a winning strategy to me. i've been an athlete for 23 years. i spent the last 5 years researching lifting and nutrition technics for hardgainers. i'm not trying to say i know everything by any means but if he follows the plan i laid out the he will gain the weight i said he could. as for doing cardio, if he were to add more cardio to his workouts then he would have to add another 500-1000 calories a day to gain weight. that means more food and more money. by only using cardio for a warm up on workout days for 12-15 months he can gain quicker with less food and expense. then once he reaches the gains he wants he can add cardio in and get really cut like i am. cheers.
vio
06-22-2004, 02:06 PM
i forgot to mention why he should not be using isolation exercises. isolation exercises are not used to gain size, compound movement exercises are used to gain size. isolation exercises are used to create symmetry. you'll always have one muscle that's larger then it's counterpart. with isolation technics you can work the smaller muscle harder so that it becomes the same size as it's counter part. there are three types of people who needs to use isolation technics... people competing in body building competitions, narcissists (nothing wrong with being a narcissist mind you <grin>) and people who have one muscle that's disproportionately larger then it's counterpart. only experienced lifters should utilize isolation technics once they've reached the approximate size they want to achieve. he doesn't need to even think about isolation exercises for at least 1-2 years. just so everyone knows during the evening i moonlight as a personal trainer specializing in hardgainer techincs. cheers.
Shane S
06-22-2004, 09:25 PM
I didn't suggest working out the same muscle groups three times a week, although that's certainly not necessarily overtraining (granted, it may be). It's possible to workout everyday and neverwork the same muscle group twice in a week.
I don't have a problem with weight gainers. I wouldn't want to suggest a limit of 3000 calories, as I've heard of people having trouble gaining until they get around the 5k mark, in which case weight gainers become almost necessary.
The amount of protein the body can absorb at one time is debateable, but I'd feel comfortable up to the 40-50g range, although my point about isolate was that it's not worth the expense.
500-1000 calories per day from cardio is excessive even for those trying to lose weight.
Isolation exercises contribute to strength and size. While compound movements should be the core of any routine, there's no reason a routine should restrict them.
I don't have a problem with weight gainers. I wouldn't want to suggest a limit of 3000 calories, as I've heard of people having trouble gaining until they get around the 5k mark, in which case weight gainers become almost necessary.
The amount of protein the body can absorb at one time is debateable, but I'd feel comfortable up to the 40-50g range, although my point about isolate was that it's not worth the expense.
500-1000 calories per day from cardio is excessive even for those trying to lose weight.
Isolation exercises contribute to strength and size. While compound movements should be the core of any routine, there's no reason a routine should restrict them.
vio
06-23-2004, 12:15 AM
yeah,you are completely right in what you're saying but it really applies to someone who's has an endomorphic or mesomorphic body type. this guy, like me and the people i train with, have ectomorphic (hardgainer) body types. we have to train differently then endomorphic and mesomorphic body types. i especially agree with your assessment of the caloric intake. 3000 should be the floor. he should get at least 3000. more would could certainly be better, and some people do gain best at up to 5000 calories. but since he's just starting to work out and gain this month he should start at 3000 and build up to 5000 if he needs it, not start at 5000. if he only needs 3500 or 4000, it just wasted money, food, time and can cause health problems. but you are right, he could very well need 5000. rome wasn't built in a day, he needs to start slow and build his way up. he's 6'0" and 150 pounds. it's going to be a long and hard journey for him to reach the weight he wants, but it's achievable. i did it and i've seen others do it. cheers.
lovinglife00
06-23-2004, 10:18 AM
Vio and Shane-
You have posted such great responses guys. Both of you are sooo knoweledgable about gaining weight. Thanks so much for all the information!
Lee I must add that I am a woman who gained weight the unhealthy way but I gained it pretty fast. I consumed 2500 calories a day for 5 months and gained 20lbs. I used Nlarge2 everyday. Nlarge2 is excellent and it works! The chocolate tastes best. I have to admit most of my calories came from unhealthy foods but I was desperate to get those calories in any way I could and it worked. I did NOT workout AT ALL and I tried to rest as much as I could because I knew if I worked out I would just work off the calories and I would end up needing more calories to compensate. I didn't worry about working out because I wanted to get more curves like hips, bigger thighs, bigger butt, etc... When I was trying to gain, I had to count the calories of EVERYTHING I put into my body to make sure I consumed my daily 2500. It's important. Well, 5 months later I had the curves I wanted at 120 lbs. In the beginning I was 100lbs and with my 2500 calorie plan, I gained 1 lb a week. After I gained, THEN I started working out to work on the muscle mass. I am not suggesting this method...I can say though that it worked for me when I wanted to get more curves. The problem for me now is that I've become a vegetarian and have lost it all!!!! Oh well there goes all that hard work... :-(
Have a great day everyone.
You have posted such great responses guys. Both of you are sooo knoweledgable about gaining weight. Thanks so much for all the information!
Lee I must add that I am a woman who gained weight the unhealthy way but I gained it pretty fast. I consumed 2500 calories a day for 5 months and gained 20lbs. I used Nlarge2 everyday. Nlarge2 is excellent and it works! The chocolate tastes best. I have to admit most of my calories came from unhealthy foods but I was desperate to get those calories in any way I could and it worked. I did NOT workout AT ALL and I tried to rest as much as I could because I knew if I worked out I would just work off the calories and I would end up needing more calories to compensate. I didn't worry about working out because I wanted to get more curves like hips, bigger thighs, bigger butt, etc... When I was trying to gain, I had to count the calories of EVERYTHING I put into my body to make sure I consumed my daily 2500. It's important. Well, 5 months later I had the curves I wanted at 120 lbs. In the beginning I was 100lbs and with my 2500 calorie plan, I gained 1 lb a week. After I gained, THEN I started working out to work on the muscle mass. I am not suggesting this method...I can say though that it worked for me when I wanted to get more curves. The problem for me now is that I've become a vegetarian and have lost it all!!!! Oh well there goes all that hard work... :-(
Have a great day everyone.
Shane S
06-23-2004, 08:43 PM
Hardgainer generally just means needs to eat more.
I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing if calories are unhealthy over the short-term. No need to clean bulk if you're not going to gain much fat anyway.
I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing if calories are unhealthy over the short-term. No need to clean bulk if you're not going to gain much fat anyway.
vio
06-24-2004, 01:16 AM
i just can't agree with that. hardgainer doesn't mean "needs to eat more". a hardgainer has a completely different body type then an "easygainer". hardgainers have a different ratio of fast twitch muscle fibers to slow twitch muscle fibers. hardgainers have a much larger amount of slow twitch fibers then fast twitch, where as an easygainer gainer has more fast twitch then slow twitch. slow twitch muscles grow at a slower rate then fast twitch muscles and they each respond best to different stimuli. therefore it doesn't matter how much you eat, your muscles can only grow so fast. once you reach the point where they are getting enough protein and enough calories to satisfy your body's growth all the extra calories are going to be stored has fat or removed from the body as waste since the body cannot process them. that just means wasted money, time and food. you can't just expect to eat more and then gain more muscle as a direct result. once your body is building muscle at peak capacity it just can't build itself any faster without drugs. drugs are for people who are to lazy to put in the time and the effort, but that's a different story. cheers.
dalesgirl
06-24-2004, 01:28 AM
I have to be honest and say I haven't read all of the responses here but thought I'd put input in so if it's already been said,sorry. My husband has always been skinny. Before his accident in 2002 he was 152 lbs at 6ft. He now weighs 135. His doctors were very concern and sent him to a dietian(sp). First the lady said he ate TOO healthy. She suggested adding lots of heavy whipping cream (like with pudding use 1/2 milk, 1/2 whipping cream), extra extra butter, whole milk(which we already drank), 1/2 and 1/2 cream. It could work for you, it didn't for him although it did for me and I didn't need it ... I could be seen on the weigh loss forum now thanks to her..LOL. My husband has tried everything from the protein shakes, to working out and nothing worked and he eats all day long but as I said, that plan might work for you.
vio
06-24-2004, 08:44 AM
actually dalesgirl, that right. his diet was too low in fat and calories. contrary to popular belief we actually needs fat in our diet. the thing is, some people needs more fat and calories then others. everyone's body is different. people who have very fast metabolisims need more calories and fat in their diet. the working out part of his plan didn't work because he most likely followed old school technics geared toward easygainers. have him go back and read my posts and follow the exercise routine i laid out. it sounds like he's got the diet part down but gaining weight without gaining muscle is just not very good for you once you get to a certain point. cheers.
Shane S
06-25-2004, 11:18 PM
Too overgeneralized. So-called hardgainers with a good enough diet can gain muscle as fast as or faster than their average counterparts, without the burden of much fat gain. Granted, they also start off with quite a bit less muscle.
HyperMan125
06-26-2004, 02:22 AM
This man is not a hardgainer and if he is nobody would know it because he eats 1600 CALORIES A DAY! At 1600 calories a day i would be losing weight. I hate when people say i eat all I want and cant gain weight because if u look at what they eat they never overeat and eat a normal amount or less of calories
vio
06-26-2004, 08:35 PM
he was 6'0" @ 150 before he started eating 1600 calories a day, then he went down to 6'0" @ 130 when his diet changed. if his normal weight is vs. height is 6'0" @ 150 then he's going to be a hardgainer. cheers.
Random2
09-15-2004, 03:06 PM
It's better to be thin, than overweight. I would much rather be 5 '11 150 than 5 '11 200. It works on me. For some of you telling these people to eat more & go see the doctor is ridiculous. I'm 33 & my girlfriend is 23 & 5' 9" 115. Do we need to go out & eat a million twinkies & devil dogs? Try being a rock star & weighing 200 pounds at my height. Good Luck! My BMI is not under 20 & my doctor says that my weight is fine. When I was married years ago I weighed 170 & felt like junk. I have been 138 back in the "Hair Band" Days. Did I feel cold or anything like all of this B.S. that some of you are saying? No. The #1 killer is still heart disease & that happens more often in the obese. Let us thin people be thin.
zip2play
09-16-2004, 08:27 AM
I vote to stay lean and stay active.
If Jason is happy eating about 1600 calories and it provides enough energy for a good exercise program and a weight maintenance of 150# he's a lucky man and shouldn't fight to throw extra weight on by force feeding. I'll bet if they stacked up all the 6 footers who weigh 150# agains those who weigh 200#, the health benefits of the low weight would be screamingly apparent!
Lee,
Enjoy working out with him and soak up all the cardio healthy benefits of the aerobics.
If Jason is happy eating about 1600 calories and it provides enough energy for a good exercise program and a weight maintenance of 150# he's a lucky man and shouldn't fight to throw extra weight on by force feeding. I'll bet if they stacked up all the 6 footers who weigh 150# agains those who weigh 200#, the health benefits of the low weight would be screamingly apparent!
Lee,
Enjoy working out with him and soak up all the cardio healthy benefits of the aerobics.
Kari7171
09-19-2004, 08:09 PM
I have been very skinny most of my life up until I got to be about 30. I always thought I was just naturally thin and I think part of it is that. One thing that I started to notice is whenever I would go out with others say for lunch at a buffet or something like that everyone else ate twice as much as me. I would fill my plate once and could barely eat it and everyone else would pile it on and eat two plates. I know I have been skinny all of my life because of not eating enough. I just did not have the desire to eat a lot. I am 5' 7" and back when I was really skinny I weighed 110 about on average and that was when I was trying to gain weight with weight gainers. I also used weight training to gain weight and the scale went up a litle but I still looked really skinny because I lifted weights 3 times a week. When I cut back to 2 times a week I gained about 10 lbs. I was up as high as 135 lbs. about a year ago. I think because of just being older I am 34 now. I also like food more now and like to eat. I am down at 122 right now and I think that is a good weight for me but would not want to weigh any less then that. I notice that the more bread and nuts I eat the more weight I put on. Another thing that has made my weight low is avoiding junk food like candy bars and lots of sugar. They just make me feel sick. So basically from someone who has gained weight I would say lifting weights just twice a week is good and heavy weights. The weight gain shakes taste terrible with water. You have to have milk and even then they taste gross. I drank them for 10 years every day and I would say I took me a year to get used to them and not gag. I would just slam them and try not to taste them. For the woman the same applies except doing aerobics and yoga too much will definately make it harder to gain weight. Limit the amount you do. Skinny people do need exercise too even aerobics. The plain truth though is you both need to eat more. If you cannot say for example eat an entire hamburger when you go out. Bring the rest home and finish it later. I have always had a hard time eating a huge amount all at once too. When I sit down at night and I cannot finish my food I cover it and put it in the fridge and then finish say a half hour later. I think I also have gained weight because I have read so much about nutrition and how we need nutritional foods in our diet each day that I will sit and think did I have bread today or did I have nuts today did I have a veggie or fruit and dairy. I end up trying to get all of my food groups in and usually in that process I end up eating more and having more calories. Eating is not just about getting enough calories it's also eating for your nutritional needs. Start reading about nutrition.