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ainfante
06-18-2004, 07:54 PM
Ok ladies, anyone want to join in, join in. Some of us have insurance, others don't. Anxiety with perimenopause can leave us feeling really alone and panicky. So we are going to begin our session here by helping each other on this board get through every pain and agony from perimenopause to anxiety all the way to not wanting to leave your home to panic attacks!

Today, I went out to the store, had to shop for my daughters camp belongings. I was in the store and doing well. First time in almost 4 months that I went to the store and actually spent a good hour or more in there. At times I felt nervous, but just took deep breathes from the diaphram, and for the ones who don't know how to do this, look up anxiety on a search engine and learn to breath from the diaphram. Also know that the body has its own rythm of breathing, so no matter how hyperventilate or tight from feeling as though you can't breathe, you can and your body will always kick in and take over, so don't try to control it. If you have to breathe shallow, breath shallow, eventually your mind will throw your breathing into normal due to the fact it wants to wash out all the carbon dioxide from the body. So breathe and don't concentrate on it. Let your belly expand on breathing in and shrink down when breathing out. Now, I went to get something to eat with a friend and noticed I felt sleepy and my head felt spacey. I began to feel a little panicky and said to myself, okay, if you're going to have a panic attack then I will sit back and watch you. Face, Accept, Desensitize (do not get into your body and what it is doing) and then let time pass. If you have Xanax, keep it with you at all times, just incase you feel a bit jittery after it's all over with. Well, didn't have a panic attack. Made it through.

On the spacey, dizzy feeling or equiliberium, if you been checked out by a doctor and everything is normal, then walk pass this feeling. Just keep walking as if it doesn't bother you. Don't let your body fool you by letting it think it's gotten the best of you, this will cause adrenaline fear adrenaline response and make everything worse or give you a panic attack.

Let's work together, from IBS to acid reflex to pains and anxiety. We can do this, we can share and tell each other what helped us through that moment. Just remember, every perimenopause symptom that is bothering you is being aggravated more by anxiety. Let's work together. Now, if you post and noone has an answer for you immediately, don't panic, we will be on here to help each other soon enough. Just be patient and let time pass.

God Bless,

Andrea

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jacqbu
06-18-2004, 09:57 PM
You are right we need to stick together and help each other. I think this is the hardest time I have been through. Had a panic attack at 1:30am last night. Woke up and just out of the blue. I hate waking up feeling nervous in the mornings. Anyone else do that? Reading these boards has really helped me because you realize you are not crazy. I started HRT yesterday. Hope it helps plus been taking Zoloft for 2 1/2 weeks.
God Bless,
Jacqueline

ainfante
06-18-2004, 11:51 PM
You are right we need to stick together and help each other. I think this is the hardest time I have been through. Had a panic attack at 1:30am last night. Woke up and just out of the blue. I hate waking up feeling nervous in the mornings. Anyone else do that? Reading these boards has really helped me because you realize you are not crazy. I started HRT yesterday. Hope it helps plus been taking Zoloft for 2 1/2 weeks.
God Bless,
Jacqueline


It take the Zoloft 4-6 weeks to work. It took Prozac sometime to work for me. You might want to pick up the book Hope and Help For Your Nerves by Dr. Claire Weekes. Also her second book, Peace From Nervous Suffering, by Dr. Claire Weekes. These books really help. Yes, you have perimenopause but this will not be enough for you. You need to accept that you have anxiety with it and once you face, accept, not concentrate on the sensitations your body is fooling you with from adrenaline then let time pass. Taking hormone supplementation may not be enough. Also, you might want to read the book called "The Pause". No, you're not crazy and you cannot go crazy with anxiety. IT seems so at times when the mind raises. But you are not going crazy. It's because you are a sensitive person and intelligent and creative that you have experienced anxiety with perimenopause. I would also suggest that you find a therapist to talk to. You will find this to be the most wonderful experience to be able to release. Even if it is just about perimenopause. My therapist and I talk all the time about perimenopause between other subjects. Give the Zoloft more time to work and then also begin to work on accepting your anxiety. Read up on it, as much as you can and accept. This is the beginning of healing from it. Let me know your stages and how you are feeling and we go from there. It's not been easy for me either and these boards are great. KC is going to jump in this too, she liked the idea that we help each other and the more who participate, the better. But what I would like to do, is not just vent about this, but for us to get out and work with ourselves both outside and inside without concentrating heavily on our ailments with peri but to search and share what helped us through that moment. If we have a panic attack, then we have one and share the experience. Then one of us who've been through it can give suggestions on how to accept the next one until there aren't anymore panic attacks with perimenopause and our hormones can relax a bit. I have had many awakening panic attacks. They are very scarey. I have awakened almost for 3 months of so with rage early in the morning or an adrenaline surge where I would be so nervous I just had to get up and pace. I'm not saying that you will never have a panic/anxiety attack like when it is close to your period or hormone changes, etc. Some can't be avoided, but you will learn that you are not crazy and how to deal with them if they were to sneak up on you suddenly. Panic attacks do that. I'm sure I'm not finished with them, but you must ride it through and not run from it or you create secondary fear. Then it becomes adrenaline fear adrenaline. You aren't going to hurt yourself, the adrenaline is only going to pump up so high before another safety kicks in and begin to counterattack it. Let's begin.

God Bless,

Andrea

twanger
06-19-2004, 01:56 PM
I understand that we can have panic attacks in peri, but what about generalized anxiety? Some of us have had anxiety at different times in our life, but it seems with menopause my anxiety is now 24/7. Is there anything to relieve this or at least put a dent into it. I hope so.

ainfante
06-19-2004, 02:06 PM
I understand that we can have panic attacks in peri, but what about generalized anxiety? Some of us have had anxiety at different times in our life, but it seems with menopause my anxiety is now 24/7. Is there anything to relieve this or at least put a dent into it. I hope so.

Hi Twanger, yeap that's me. I'm pretty much generalized now with peri. You need to do the same as you would do for panic attacks. Sometimes you will need totake meds while going through desensitization, but you need to handle it the same as panic attacks and stress.

Andrea

ainfante
06-19-2004, 02:07 PM
Twanger, if you give some examples of your personal general anxiety symptoms, perhaps some of us can work with you and also you can in turn share what helped you through it. Accepting this as a part of perimenopause does help. You might have had it before, but it will return with the meno.

Andrea

DeAnnaV
06-19-2004, 02:13 PM
what about when you start the breathing problems as you stated and then you go numb....your hands curl up and toes criss cross...no feeling anywhere ...slowly you find you can't move or talk and can actually feel you lungs drawing up under your rib cage like when a baby kicks during pregnancy...eyelids start flickering.....chest pains and heart flopping around....and then passed out in a covered sweat from having it scare the heck out ya...and feeling yourself sinking away....antivan, zanax doesn't work...been complaining about fogetfulness for over a year and being a waken with severe leg cramps...i keep a blow dryer handy so i can quickly apply heat to relax the muscle............is it possible this is a central nervous system problem? nothing brings it on or not.....i have been so angry over something and nothing happens....i can be extremely happy and nothing happens....but it has happened just from eating a salad....a meal...avoiding caffeine and sugars....ect.....physical exhertion brings it on more times then not...but not one thing is a sure red flag to say here we go...because the rapid heartbeat stays...and is only a trigger of what...? away....should not at least nerve pills improve the frequentecy or at least give me one hour a day of my chest not being tight and beating fast...this never goes away...why i don't know...had blood work and ekg....doc said anxiety....i am not comfortable off of two test to feel good about that...help!!!

ainfante
06-19-2004, 03:58 PM
what about when you start the breathing problems as you stated and then you go numb....your hands curl up and toes criss cross...no feeling anywhere ...slowly you find you can't move or talk and can actually feel you lungs drawing up under your rib cage like when a baby kicks during pregnancy...eyelids start flickering.....chest pains and heart flopping around....and then passed out in a covered sweat from having it scare the heck out ya...and feeling yourself sinking away....antivan, zanax doesn't work...been complaining about fogetfulness for over a year and being a waken with severe leg cramps...i keep a blow dryer handy so i can quickly apply heat to relax the muscle............is it possible this is a central nervous system problem? nothing brings it on or not.....i have been so angry over something and nothing happens....i can be extremely happy and nothing happens....but it has happened just from eating a salad....a meal...avoiding caffeine and sugars....ect.....physical exhertion brings it on more times then not...but not one thing is a sure red flag to say here we go...because the rapid heartbeat stays...and is only a trigger of what...? away....should not at least nerve pills improve the frequentecy or at least give me one hour a day of my chest not being tight and beating fast...this never goes away...why i don't know...had blood work and ekg....doc said anxiety....i am not comfortable off of two test to feel good about that...help!!!

Have you checked your thyroid? If this is normal and you have gone to a neurologist to see if this was total nerve problem and that is still normal, then yes, this can be anxiety. Are you in perimenopause or menopause? Are you seeing a therapist or a Psych?

Andrea

DeAnnaV
06-19-2004, 04:22 PM
Have you checked your thyroid? If this is normal and you have gone to a neurologist to see if this was total nerve problem and that is still normal, then yes, this can be anxiety. Are you in perimenopause or menopause? Are you seeing a therapist or a Psych?

Andrea


my thyroid was checked in the bloodwork done that day...it is borderline on th high side but not crossed the out of range reading....which there really is no true range for everyone from what i understand...i requested to see a neuro but my doc sent me to a shrink..to look into anxiety....no meds are helping and i not sure why i am even there....but would like to be sent to a card and neuro at the same time while i am doing this because it isn't working or the meds....ativan...antarax....not helping...i am 34 healthy and have had three children. i am tall and skinny...no weight problem factors.....so i am feeling over looked guess you would say.....i have complain for well over a year or so about memory problems...forget what i am doing as i am doing it kind of thing...forgetting a stove is on..or what i was doing....and severe leg cramps..mostly in my right leg....just as my right arm went numb the other day as one of these spells starting coming on....but did not get as severe....i just don't know if a ekg and bloodwork is enough to answer that this is anxiety....and just let it go at that given i effected everyday by this....gee i am soo confused and troubled by how my health symtoms over the past year or so keep getting worse....LOL DeAnna

ainfante
06-19-2004, 05:54 PM
my thyroid was checked in the bloodwork done that day...it is borderline on th high side but not crossed the out of range reading....which there really is no true range for everyone from what i understand...i requested to see a neuro but my doc sent me to a shrink..to look into anxiety....no meds are helping and i not sure why i am even there....but would like to be sent to a card and neuro at the same time while i am doing this because it isn't working or the meds....ativan...antarax....not helping...i am 34 healthy and have had three children. i am tall and skinny...no weight problem factors.....so i am feeling over looked guess you would say.....i have complain for well over a year or so about memory problems...forget what i am doing as i am doing it kind of thing...forgetting a stove is on..or what i was doing....and severe leg cramps..mostly in my right leg....just as my right arm went numb the other day as one of these spells starting coming on....but did not get as severe....i just don't know if a ekg and bloodwork is enough to answer that this is anxiety....and just let it go at that given i effected everyday by this....gee i am soo confused and troubled by how my health symtoms over the past year or so keep getting worse....LOL DeAnna

Why don't you go directly to a neurologist and forget about a referral. Do you have HMO or PPO? If you have a PPO, you do not need a referral. Please go, it will at least give you some comfort. Same for a Cardiologist.

Andrea

jacqbu
06-19-2004, 08:35 PM
I spent the morning in the ER. My heart raced all night long. I finally broke down and went. Did a EKG abd blood work and gave me shot of ativan. I have to go see the cardiologist monday. They said when your heart races that fast you need to come in. I am so tired of all this that I cannot express. I pray for all of you.
God Bless,
Jacqueline

molly123
06-19-2004, 09:30 PM
I spent the morning in the ER. My heart raced all night long. I finally broke down and went. Did a EKG abd blood work and gave me shot of ativan. I have to go see the cardiologist monday. They said when your heart races that fast you need to come in. I am so tired of all this that I cannot express. I pray for all of you.
God Bless,
Jacqueline

So sorry you had to go into ER. Geez, I hope you're better. What did they say? How fast was your heart racing? I had heart palps that lasted for a few seconds or minutes and I was worried - but here you say yours lasted all night long! I'm sure that was really scary!! The same thing happened to Oprah - she thought she was having a heart attack and went to all these drs. only to find it was menopause related....hope that is just the case for you. Please let us know what your cardio says on Monday.

molly

jacqbu
06-19-2004, 09:47 PM
My heart rate was 160. My blood pressure was 156/100. I had started wearing the hormone patch Thursday night. I wondered if I had a reaction to it. I just feel so trapped in a horrible nightmare. I dread going to bed at night. It is so frusterating trying to find answers.
Jacqueline

ainfante
06-19-2004, 10:51 PM
My heart rate was 160. My blood pressure was 156/100. I had started wearing the hormone patch Thursday night. I wondered if I had a reaction to it. I just feel so trapped in a horrible nightmare. I dread going to bed at night. It is so frusterating trying to find answers.
Jacqueline


Sounds like you had a reaction to the hormones. Estrogen will do this. Also, could have been your thyroid. I would check this out, didn't you say you were on sinthroid? Also Jac, if this doesn't stop, please ask your doctor for a beta blocker if you do not have asthma. When I was going throught that horrible time with a high t4 thyroid, my heart would race like that too and they finally gave me a beta blocker (Inderol) and this will stop it. Also it will help you with anxiety. Just make sure you take a small dose, since it will drop your heart rate and blood pressure. I would have a talk with your gyne, cause the hormones you are taking might be too high for your body. Please stay in contact, I'm worried about you.

Andrea

ainfante
06-19-2004, 10:52 PM
Jac, remember that your heart can race, beat up to 200 and you will still not harm yourself if you are healthy. This can happen more than a week or so and you can still be fine, just to help you calm down, okay? But I know how frustrating it is to feel this kind of heart beat.

ANdrea

jacqbu
06-19-2004, 11:08 PM
Thanks alot for your words. I had my blood drawn for my thyroid Thursday. Waiting on the results. I pulled the hormone patch off this morning because I wondered about it. Hopefully the cardiologist can shed some light on this monday. Thanks again.
Jacqueline

snodove
06-20-2004, 06:56 AM
Hi Jacqueline, I am so sorry you went through that. It is hard. I know a few yrs. ago I kept having heart papitations.. It drove me nuts. I got so tired too. Went to the doctor and he did a heart monitor. Didn't show up anything. Finally, he said it might be thyroid. Wasn't that.. or it didn't show up. Sometimes I still wonder about that. He did some blood work and said it as perimenopause. Since then some of my symptoms have left but I have some. I used to take HRT but stopped that too. I am almost sure my Estrogen is low though right now. I hope you get some answers.
Hugs, Polly

kc1216
06-21-2004, 09:38 AM
Good morning Ladies! Just got back from a camping trip. I have work to do - but I'll be hopping on throughout the day:)

Andrea, this is a great thread!

Jaqcueline - I know what you are going through. I went for an ekg and my heart was racing. I take xanax which helps but you said it doesn't help you. Have you looked at your diet - cut out all caffeine - that means anything with chocolate in it, coffee, soft drinks? I know with peri I crave sweets and it's tough but it does help to cut all that out - even orange juice and stuff - sugars can do that to you as well. Did you stop with the estrogen patch? That could have done it too - my mom was in her late 50's when she did that and had problems.

I felt that way on Friday - had to walk around the building for a while. What I find that helps when I am a total basket case is to take some brief walks and drink lots of water. Of course I was bad and had nothing but Starbucks for breakfast (I like to abuse myself once in a while) and that send me through the roof! Before all this I could drink pots of coffee all day long, not anymore!

I had a doozy yesterday. We were away camping and I got into a fight with this man at the campsite next to us. When I feel edgey, anything will set me off and I tend to run my mouth a little too much. Well the idiot wanted to see our trailer because he was looking into one. We were packing up to go home and the boys were collapsing their tent. The man came over and asked the boys if they were collapsing the Ladies tent and to watch out because it will be full of hot air. Well my motherinlaw got offended, I was furious and started running my mouth to him about what a rude comment he made, etc. It got worse mouth-wise with me and the heart was beating a bazillion times a second. My husband was getting a little peeved at my language and attitude so I did the right thing, before I got worse (and my case of worse is usually pretty bad), I removed myself from the situation. Just walked, went to my sisterinlaw's camper and sat and calmed down. Drank my water and calmed down. I do find that if I'm in a panicky-type or emotional situation, if I just talk myself into leaving, removing myself from the situation, it goes away faster. It stinks at first, I've had to remove myself from the grocery store with a full cart of food, remove myself from a long line at the drug store, etc. But when I do that and feel better, the next time I remember what happened and I try to tough it out - kind of like a contest with myself - how long can I last. I know it sounds strange but it works. It gets better eventually.

Too bad xanax doesn't work on you. It really calms me down and I don't get wasted off of them. Just watch your diet, keep yourself out of stressful situations and maybe find a women's support group in your area. Plus you have us!

Feel better soon,
KC

ainfante
06-21-2004, 11:12 AM
What a great post, KC. How supportive you are, really! Good for you for walking away and going to calm down. That's a woman taking charge with a positive attitude as a solution. How are you feeling? Any test results on your stomach yet? Good for you to walk around the building to make peace with yourself. Hope everything is well with you.
I've been listening to Dr. Brian Weiss's meditation/relaxation cd. It really helps.

Andrea

kc1216
06-21-2004, 11:58 AM
Hey Andrea! I'll tell ya, I've found that walking around the building and removing myself from bad things really truly works. But sometimes everything seems bad (doom part of peri) and I know I cannot walk away. That is when I repeat over in my head that it's all anxiety and I will not let it control me - it's hard and I'm trying to take my xanax in the morning and at night but sometimes I feel okay and I do not need it. Well when I don't take it I get very "snippy" - at least that is what I am told from others. When I do manage to take it I'm on even keel.

So how are you - how was your weekend?

The snippies haven't come yet today (neither has the xanax). Good day at work, gorgeous outside and we're going for an mc ride tonight - just get away from the kids for a couple of hours - had enough of them all weekend. I got burnt real bad in the sun. I used a 30 but forgot to reapply so here I am at work today, in stretchy pants, a loose soft shirt, no bra and a sweater to cover up. I'm sizzling! Guess it's the Irish in me.

I'm thinking of looking into a meditation/yoga class around here. My girlfriend takes a class but it's during the day so I'll need to find one at night. Maybe that will help with the snippies.

kc

ainfante
06-21-2004, 01:52 PM
Feeling dizzy today. I hate this. I keep telling myself that it is just anxiety and hormones and it will pass so I don't go into panic feeling like this. Anyone else feeling like this? And what's your solution?

Hi KC. I was going to jump on the bike with my nephew last night and decided not to. Sunburns, yuck! I have Irish in me too and I burn also. But with hot flashes this year, dont' even want to stay in the sun long.

Andrea

eltwins
06-21-2004, 02:39 PM
Hello all,
I live in the Uk and have all of these problems. I fell nauseous most of the time, palpatations, fast heart rate, muggy type headache, panic attacks when I think all this is leading upto me dying! I have had all heart tests done, which were fine and bloods for all sorts of things including thyroid, all fine. I assume it is the peri as it is all worse in the mornings and around periods. Feeling a little better then my sister-in-law died this week of a brain tumor and I have been thrown back into it. Nausea, Headaches, extreme tiredness....Is this really just peri??

kc1216
06-21-2004, 02:44 PM
Dizzys are bad! Well it's not actually dizzy spells, it's spaciness with me. I have that on and off all of the time - specially after my period ends and right before it begins. I had that floaty feeling this morning. Since I'm at work, not much can be done about it but try to surf the net and read the papers - even if I can't read but if I have something to look at I can focus myself onto that and out of the float. When I'm home I just sit back, turn on the TV and actually enjoy it until it goes away. They don't last long with me and since I don't "party" anymore, I consider it a freebie:)

kc

snodove
06-21-2004, 02:59 PM
Hi Andrea, sorry you are feeling dizzy. I hope you feel better. I had a lazy weekend and today had to start cleaning house.. yuck.. and my side is acting up again some.
Maybe I am allergic to housework.
I started taking that potassium citrate for kidney stones. I read online that people prone to kidney stones might get more in perimenopause.. oh joy... lol I stared getting them at age 30 and now 46 .. lol enough is enough.Luckily not all those yrs I had stones but Have had 7 at least.
Hope you feel better. My libdo is gone gone gone lately.Hugs, Polly

kc1216
06-21-2004, 03:11 PM
Hi Eltwins - I am very sorry about your sister!

Polly, as for my libido - it's gone too but at least I'm not getting complaints. The kids have kept my husband so busy, he has no time for me these days so I'm left alone - It's not fun being out of the picture but at least I get no grief about sex:)

kc

ainfante
06-21-2004, 07:54 PM
Hello all,
I live in the Uk and have all of these problems. I fell nauseous most of the time, palpatations, fast heart rate, muggy type headache, panic attacks when I think all this is leading upto me dying! I have had all heart tests done, which were fine and bloods for all sorts of things including thyroid, all fine. I assume it is the peri as it is all worse in the mornings and around periods. Feeling a little better then my sister-in-law died this week of a brain tumor and I have been thrown back into it. Nausea, Headaches, extreme tiredness....Is this really just peri??


I'm so sorry about your sister! I lost my brother almost 4 months ago! Yes, you are having perimenopause symptoms before your sister, but now you are also feeling anxiety. YOu most likely had the anxiety before your sister passed away, but now you are probably a little panicky and this is all natural to feel this way. I also had panic attacks when I lost my brother and was also in perimenopause. Is there anything we can do to make you feel better or more comfortable? Can we walk you through anything?

Andrea

ainfante
06-21-2004, 08:03 PM
Hi Andrea, sorry you are feeling dizzy. I hope you feel better. I had a lazy weekend and today had to start cleaning house.. yuck.. and my side is acting up again some.
Maybe I am allergic to housework.
I started taking that potassium citrate for kidney stones. I read online that people prone to kidney stones might get more in perimenopause.. oh joy... lol I stared getting them at age 30 and now 46 .. lol enough is enough.Luckily not all those yrs I had stones but Have had 7 at least.
Hope you feel better. My libdo is gone gone gone lately.Hugs, Polly


I hate when I post something and it doesn't go through after I typed it all out! Hope you feel better! Tell me where is your pain on your side? Let's compare. Oh Please! Can't have anymore kidney stones! YOu and I are basically the same age. Great, just what I wanted to hear. Go and take the urine test again Thursday. Also I have not scheduled the bladder scope, nope don't want to. LEt me see if the bladder infection is gone away first. Also, I have no libido either, gave that up months ago, just can't get around to doing it anymore and also dumped my boyfriend. That's okay, he was an aggressive ******* anyways!

Hugs Andrea

ainfante
06-21-2004, 08:07 PM
Dizzys are bad! Well it's not actually dizzy spells, it's spaciness with me. I have that on and off all of the time - specially after my period ends and right before it begins. I had that floaty feeling this morning. Since I'm at work, not much can be done about it but try to surf the net and read the papers - even if I can't read but if I have something to look at I can focus myself onto that and out of the float. When I'm home I just sit back, turn on the TV and actually enjoy it until it goes away. They don't last long with me and since I don't "party" anymore, I consider it a freebie:)

kc


Yeah, no about that floating. Sometimes floating is good, other times its depersonalization, so if you find yourself drifting too much, just come back and start grounding like the carpet is red, the table is brown, the trees our green, etc. That way you don't lose yourself too much and have a panic attack.

My dizzy's are not really dizzy's just feel off balance, off on the equiliberium, where I just feel so off balance, like my head is heavier than the rest of my body, LOL Big headed, huh? LOL It's a hormonal thing, I know it and it's also a part of anxiety, know this too, so I just try to keep walking through it but it's bothersome when it hits, I don't care where I'm at. And the store? Man! Not a good place.

Andrea

molly123
06-22-2004, 02:18 AM
My dizzy's are not really dizzy's just feel off balance, off on the equiliberium, where I just feel so off balance, like my head is heavier than the rest of my body, LOL Big headed, huh? LOL It's a hormonal thing, I know it and it's also a part of anxiety, know this too, so I just try to keep walking through it but it's bothersome when it hits, I don't care where I'm at. And the store? Man! Not a good place.

Andrea

Hey Andrea,
You hit it right on the button! Never thought to use " my head was heavier than the rest of my body" but that is exactly how I felt but what I mistakenly called them headaches. No wonder none of the OTC pain killers worked! I had problems at stores too. Isn't it all so weird?!?!

molly

ainfante
06-22-2004, 10:12 AM
Hey Andrea,
You hit it right on the button! Never thought to use " my head was heavier than the rest of my body" but that is exactly how I felt but what I mistakenly called them headaches. No wonder none of the OTC pain killers worked! I had problems at stores too. Isn't it all so weird?!?!

molly

It is weird and so hormonal. But I'm noticing that if we try to give it to my attention, it makes it worse, so I just plunge through them, can't help but to notice them, but keep going. Now I have the cramps and seems like my period may show up just a bit earlier than anticipated or scheduled to show. Nice chatting with you Molly. Always good to hear from you.

Andrea

kc1216
06-22-2004, 10:29 AM
Good morning!

I hated waiting for my period. The pill actually fixed that but I do remember it felt worse if I ate or drank anything w/ caffeine in it. The cramps seemed to come a week earlier and just hang on. Plus eating salty things made the bloating worse. Although it made me nauseas, I found that Vitamin B12 helped to bring it on. Try a heating pad on your lower back during your relaxing time - that helped me too!

kc

ainfante
06-22-2004, 12:36 PM
Good morning!

I hated waiting for my period. The pill actually fixed that but I do remember it felt worse if I ate or drank anything w/ caffeine in it. The cramps seemed to come a week earlier and just hang on. Plus eating salty things made the bloating worse. Although it made me nauseas, I found that Vitamin B12 helped to bring it on. Try a heating pad on your lower back during your relaxing time - that helped me too!

kc

Tell me more about your experience with Vitamin B-12. I'm interested in knowing if you found it to be beneficial for anything related to peri and anxiety.

ANdrea

kc1216
06-22-2004, 12:50 PM
Hi Andrea,

I wasn't on it long enough to notice anything that helped with anxiety. It made me real sick to my stomach - didn't matter if I took it with food or no food or what time of day. I did notice I was less "pms" when I took evening primrose oil - not as many cramps, and I would take one a day every day. I stopped taking all of the vitamins until I can get my med schedule under control. Just taking aciphex, zelnorm (2x a day), the bc pill and a xanax (2x a day), I've had enough with taking any more pills. I seem to be doing okay this week but I'm a little irritated w/ the bladder. Not sure if because I got so much sunburn this weekend - I am FREEZING at work (AC running too high and we have no control) and when I am cold, I pee ALOT.

This girl I work with gets a shot and she doesn't get sick. I was going to ask the doc about it next - hopefully this afternoon - my results from last week still aren't in yet.:(

I'm a little b*tchy today moodwise though. My period ended a week ago. I think I'm just having a hard time knowing I can't do my usual routine because of the kids being here all summer long. We went out for a little while last night and I didn't want to come home. I made plans to have some coffee w/ friends on Thursday and the hubby is peeved that I'm making plans to do stuff - I just want a few nights not home is all - can't deal with so many people in a small area. I've been doing good with the bedroom 10 p.m. rule - I take what I need in there and shut the door. I just need some time to myself. Oh well, six more weeks of this to go.

molly123
06-22-2004, 01:13 PM
The B-12 that I take is sublingual - lozenges - you put it under your tongue. It is 1,000 mcg which is equiv. to a shot. Asked my dr. about it and he said it OK to take. Said the lozenges are better than pill - absorbs better. I always thought B-12 helps your energy level. It is from ******* vitamins. Check it online. In fact, I get all my vitamins from them.

snodove
06-22-2004, 01:54 PM
Hi KC, I don't have anyone to keep my husband busy but me. lol but I understand what you are saying.
I have felt some better today. I think that potassium might be helping some.
I feel a little tired but that has been normal lately. KC, Andrea, Hope you are doing ok.
I need to work outside. I would like to stay in and play but I feel guitly. Hugs, Polly

kc1216
06-22-2004, 03:52 PM
Wish I could do potassium but I get major D and gas & cramps!

I finally have tomatoes growing - first time I've done a garden in years - It really relaxed me. I love being able to work outside when I can. Things are okay today, I'm a bit b*tchy still but it will go away. My son is having a friend sleep over so now it's 4 kids tonight - they should hopefully all occupy eachother. Hope the hubby doesn't mind because it's still "typically" a school night. They are about done though. Afraid to call hubby to tell him.

kc

snodove
06-22-2004, 06:02 PM
Hi KC, I hope your tomatoes are good. We usually have a garden but the man that has the lot we have used is selling it. Boo hoo. It isn't has sold yet but we figured why plant a garden if it is going to sell. I love fresh tomatoes and such. Corn and all.
Yep, Potassium I hope will help my IBS C. So far it has some I think. I gotta take it for kidney stones as I mentioned. Are you home schooling? Hope the kids don't drive you nuts. Hugs, Polly

ainfante
06-22-2004, 07:14 PM
Hi KC, I hope your tomatoes are good. We usually have a garden but the man that has the lot we have used is selling it. Boo hoo. It isn't has sold yet but we figured why plant a garden if it is going to sell. I love fresh tomatoes and such. Corn and all.
Yep, Potassium I hope will help my IBS C. So far it has some I think. I gotta take it for kidney stones as I mentioned. Are you home schooling? Hope the kids don't drive you nuts. Hugs, Polly


Polly, are the docs recommending you take potassium to get rid of kidney stones? Did u have a low blood potassium? Let me know, please.

Andrea

snodove
06-23-2004, 07:36 AM
Hi Andrea,
It is kind of funny. Last year my uro doctor put me on a water pill. Prescription one but he never put me on potassium. So not really realizing it I felt like c..... after awhile. I had felt tired,heart papitations ect ect. I thought it was my perimenopause again but my doctor said it could be potassium. That was my GP. He put me on potassium and it helped but I should have been on Potassium citrate. That is what they usually give you for stone prevention for calcium ox. stones. So I had that second urine test this year and it showed up I needed it for gout type stones too. So we got in it. It does something to the calcium in your urine. If I am not mistaken. I know the water pill gets it out more. Normally, people filter calcium back in the blood but some don't and then you get a build up of calcium in you kidney's I learned and you get stones.It sure is alot to fight them. You need chemistry. lol
Hope this helps.
I feel like I am haivng hot flashes today. It has been awhile since I have had them. My period has been so messed up for about 3 months. I didn't have it one month then this month it was almost nothing.. what we go through. lol Hugs, Polly

ainfante
06-23-2004, 10:14 AM
Hi Andrea,
It is kind of funny. Last year my uro doctor put me on a water pill. Prescription one but he never put me on potassium. So not really realizing it I felt like c..... after awhile. I had felt tired,heart papitations ect ect. I thought it was my perimenopause again but my doctor said it could be potassium. That was my GP. He put me on potassium and it helped but I should have been on Potassium citrate. That is what they usually give you for stone prevention for calcium ox. stones. So I had that second urine test this year and it showed up I needed it for gout type stones too. So we got in it. It does something to the calcium in your urine. If I am not mistaken. I know the water pill gets it out more. Normally, people filter calcium back in the blood but some don't and then you get a build up of calcium in you kidney's I learned and you get stones.It sure is alot to fight them. You need chemistry. lol
Hope this helps.
I feel like I am haivng hot flashes today. It has been awhile since I have had them. My period has been so messed up for about 3 months. I didn't have it one month then this month it was almost nothing.. what we go through. lol Hugs, Polly


Yeah, I'm having the hot flashes too lately cause my period due now or by Sat. I'll have to take extra potassium. Thanks for the info. YOu doing okay?

Andrea

snodove
06-23-2004, 11:04 AM
Hi Andrea, Yep I think so. I felt so good yesterday. Today I feel kind of weird. Not sure why ... but am ok.
I think my hormones are going nuts again. How are you doing.
Hugs, Polly

ainfante
06-23-2004, 11:08 AM
Hi Andrea, Yep I think so. I felt so good yesterday. Today I feel kind of weird. Not sure why ... but am ok.
I think my hormones are going nuts again. How are you doing.
Hugs, Polly


Hormones going nuts, LOL! Actually, today I'm off balance again, so what else is new for the mornings and I have cramps but still no period. I just feel so strange now before my period, with hot flushes and tingling in my body or arms and hands, dizzy. What a pain, huh? It's hard being a woman. I just try to keep walking, try not to let any of these body symptoms stop me or let me get panicky, but sometimes you lose yourself in them and you freak!

Andrea

molly123
06-23-2004, 12:07 PM
Hormones going nuts, LOL! Actually, today I'm off balance again, so what else is new for the mornings and I have cramps but still no period. I just feel so strange now before my period, with hot flushes and tingling in my body or arms and hands, dizzy. What a pain, huh? It's hard being a woman. I just try to keep walking, try not to let any of these body symptoms stop me or let me get panicky, but sometimes you lose yourself in them and you freak!

Andrea

When I was going through my time with my horrible peri symptoms, I drove my sister totally crazy. I would whine to her everyday, call her constantly and, and dwell on how bad I was feeling, just couldn't handle it. She kept telling me (and yelling at me) that it's menopause related!! Nothing else! I kept thinking and coming up with every disease out there! She couldn't possibly understand how difficult it was or how I was feeling because she didn't have any of the symptoms I was going through. She thinks her having her period everyday for 3 years straight, floods, liver size clots, every 15-min. changing of tampons and pads were far worse. I told her at least she knows what it is; whereas, I think those of us here who are experiencing those hot flashes, tingling or internal shakes, burning sensations, anxiety, dizziness know that it isn't all that easy to deal with! I read some of the postings on this board to my boyfriend and he feels so sorry for us women! But, he thinks we all amazing to be sharing and talking about it....something he said guys won't do.

So, remember - tell yourself it is menopause related and it will go away - you are not going to die (in the meantime, it is a royal pain in the butt)!.

molly

ainfante
06-23-2004, 12:25 PM
When I was going through my time with my horrible peri symptoms, I drove my sister totally crazy. I would whine to her everyday, call her constantly and, and dwell on how bad I was feeling, just couldn't handle it. She kept telling me (and yelling at me) that it's menopause related!! Nothing else! I kept thinking and coming up with every disease out there! She couldn't possibly understand how difficult it was or how I was feeling because she didn't have any of the symptoms I was going through. She thinks her having her period everyday for 3 years straight, floods, liver size clots, every 15-min. changing of tampons and pads were far worse. I told her at least she knows what it is; whereas, I think those of us here who are experiencing those hot flashes, tingling or internal shakes, burning sensations, anxiety, dizziness know that it isn't all that easy to deal with! I read some of the postings on this board to my boyfriend and he feels so sorry for us women! But, he thinks we all amazing to be sharing and talking about it....something he said guys won't do.

So, remember - tell yourself it is menopause related and it will go away - you are not going to die (in the meantime, it is a royal pain in the butt)!.

molly


AMEN MOLLY! RIGHT TO THE POINT AND THE TRUTH! And even though we tell ourselves this, we still have some days peri wants to pin us to the wall.

Thanks

Andrea

snodove
06-23-2004, 12:27 PM
Hi Andrea, A few yrs ago I had that too. The tingling,body aches, not so much now . I think sometimes I still have heart papitations and such but not like it was. I am wondering if i will have have a period this month.. or next month. lol I mean.
I didnt have one in May then had one kind of this month.. it was so light. So who knows. I can't believe my blood work didn't show up perimenopause. I used to have heavy periods til they took my ovary out. It had a large tumor I think I told you. I would be glad not to have any. Would suit me just fine. I am trying to walk too. I went out today and just said I am going to do this no matter what. It felt good to do that.
Oh, a few yrs ago I remember it was summer and I had a sweater on cuz I was freezing. lol It was so funny but not then. I would freeze and it was 90 degrees.
Weird.
Hope you feel better. HUGS, Polly

snodove
06-23-2004, 12:29 PM
Molly, I can't agree with you more.. it is so true. Mom had one hot flash so she doesn't understand how I feel at times. I am trying to tell it to Go away.
Polly

goody2shuz
06-23-2004, 12:56 PM
Hey,Andrea...I like this thread you started. iwas hoping that perhaps you or someone here might have an answer for me. Hi, Polly...it's Goody and perhaps you have some info that may help out too.

I had surgery 6 weeks ago and have missed 2 cycles...I told the surgeon about the first and he said it's not unusual for one's cycle to be thrown off by surgery. A few months before my surgery I missed a cycle which is very unusual for me since I am quite regular. (I actually did a pregnancy test despite my hubby having had a vasectomy which thankfully turned ourt negative) :bouncing: Anyway...since I've now missed 2 cycles I'm thinking that I may be entering the M-zone....haha!!! I'm 45 and otherwise have no other symptoms other than the usual PMSing prior to my period. I actually shouldn't complain cause I really don't miss it...just wondering what might be going on. During the surgery the surgeon did remove some adhesions caused by endometriosis around my rectum and intestines as well as an endometrioma on the rectum. I never knew I had endmetriosis prior to the surgery and was glad he cleaned me up. I thought that perhaps this had something to do with my missed periods....what do yo guys think? Was thinking of getting one of those home menopausal tests to check things out. Anyone ever do one of them and what will it tell me? thanks for any feedback...Goody :D :wave:

ainfante
06-23-2004, 01:35 PM
Hey,Andrea...I like this thread you started. iwas hoping that perhaps you or someone here might have an answer for me. Hi, Polly...it's Goody and perhaps you have some info that may help out too.

I had surgery 6 weeks ago and have missed 2 cycles...I told the surgeon about the first and he said it's not unusual for one's cycle to be thrown off by surgery. A few months before my surgery I missed a cycle which is very unusual for me since I am quite regular. (I actually did a pregnancy test despite my hubby having had a vasectomy which thankfully turned ourt negative) :bouncing: Anyway...since I've now missed 2 cycles I'm thinking that I may be entering the M-zone....haha!!! I'm 45 and otherwise have no other symptoms other than the usual PMSing prior to my period. I actually shouldn't complain cause I really don't miss it...just wondering what might be going on. During the surgery the surgeon did remove some adhesions caused by endometriosis around my rectum and intestines as well as an endometrioma on the rectum. I never knew I had endmetriosis prior to the surgery and was glad he cleaned me up. I thought that perhaps this had something to do with my missed periods....what do yo guys think? Was thinking of getting one of those home menopausal tests to check things out. Anyone ever do one of them and what will it tell me? thanks for any feedback...Goody :D :wave:

Taking one of the home meno tests won't do you any good, don't waste your money. You could talk to your gyne and she could run tests. Endo can cause periods to be off, but I would say that your are definitely in perimenopause just by age alone. Remember, meno doesn't come upon us in a day or month, it takes years to get there. So you are right on schedule. Missing periods after surgery is not uncommon, but since you were already missing before surgery, this is one of the biggest signs of perimenopause, shorter or closer period, lighter or heavier periods, further apart, etc. This is where the change happens first. Most of us who do not have symptoms other than what I've just mentioned pay no attention to it except, okay I missed my period or it was late, or it's lighter or heavier, heavier generally catches a persons attention faster. But when you begin to get anxiety or other symtoms as we have described in our many posts here, then you look at it and say, wait a minute, something's wrong. And then we think everything else is wrong with us except perimenopause. So you are normal. The only thing you might want to clarify is the endo you have and didn't know you had, but by the time you reach your mid 40's and up, generally endo begins to seize due to the declining of estrogen. I hope this helps you. Ask us questions anytime.

Best regards,

Andrea

snodove
06-23-2004, 02:51 PM
hehe Hey Goody. Good to see you. I mean sorry you have to go through this but good to see you. I am 46.. just barely. lol
Geez. I have had my periods mesed up the past 3 months. I took a preg. test too cuz I was afraid. Hubby had a vasecomy... too. Just never know huh. I tell you today tops things. I had some of these symptoms a yr or so ago and they are back.. oh boy.
I am itching,skin crawling and nervous ect ect ect.. ahhh. But will get through it.
I am not one to take HRT anymore.
I hope you aren't going thru but very possible. We are close to that age.
Will keep giving support. Hugs, Polly

snodove
06-23-2004, 02:56 PM
Andrea, How you doing this fine afternoon. As the day has gone by I am feeling some farmilar signs I had a few yrs ago.. ahhh. I hate it but will live with it.
Crawling skin, ect and achy mucles today. Face twinges.. this is too farmilar. and I was hoping I wasn't going to have this again. But like you said we are all close to that age.
I was reading your post to goody. You say the home meno. tests are no good. Thanks for letting me know. My gyn did the blood test and it was neg. so I guess sometimes they don't aways show up or do you know. The periods being short,long,skipped, heavy been there and done that.. too. Hope you are not having any more hotflashes.
That is where I started today. lol
Hugs ,Polly

rmc12
06-23-2004, 04:43 PM
This is a great thread that you started, Ainfante!! Very helpful I am sure to all of us.

Molly said a mouthful when she said "So, remember - tell yourself it is menopause related and it will go away - you are not going to die (in the meantime, it is a royal pain in the butt)!." So TRUE!! Sometimes I can tell myself that easier than other days. Lately has been better for me in that when things do come up I do not stress about them. I think in Mar and Apr when I was doing that it really did a number on my intestines...(the stress did). It is hard to tell ourselves though that this is peri related as it just does not feel like we are ourselves. But it has helped to read what others are going thru and then when we are having the symptoms we can think back to this board and know we are not alone in feeling like this.

Hope everyone has a good day today.


rmc

ainfante
06-23-2004, 07:25 PM
Thanks for participating RMC.

Andrea

ainfante
06-23-2004, 07:32 PM
Andrea, How you doing this fine afternoon. As the day has gone by I am feeling some farmilar signs I had a few yrs ago.. ahhh. I hate it but will live with it.
Crawling skin, ect and achy mucles today. Face twinges.. this is too farmilar. and I was hoping I wasn't going to have this again. But like you said we are all close to that age.
I was reading your post to goody. You say the home meno. tests are no good. Thanks for letting me know. My gyn did the blood test and it was neg. so I guess sometimes they don't aways show up or do you know. The periods being short,long,skipped, heavy been there and done that.. too. Hope you are not having any more hotflashes.
That is where I started today. lol
Hugs ,Polly

Hi Polly. The home meno test is not reliable, took it already. If your test at the gyne comes back negative, negative in what? There is no such thing with blood. Negative as far as pregnancy, yes. My estrogen was normal too, but as my gyne puts it, what's normal. Unless you've been watching your estrogen for years every single month, no one knows what is normal. YOu donot lose estrogen completely until you have lost your period for at least two years. The first year, your estrogen is completely down when you've lost your period for a year, but yet we have estrogen receptors in our fat, stomaches, central nervous system, bladder, breasts, thyroid and brain and your body will pull these until the finish line. So there reallly is no normal estrogen reading. They go by age and we fit the bracket. Now you can run testerone, progesterone, dhea and get results whether they are too high, too low or normal. Same with thryoid, estrogen...no. Yes, you will be fine fora while and the symptoms will come back because your body is slowly declining estrogen. I get the facial twinges, eye twitches, electrical pulses under my skin (know plenty of women who get this who are friends of mine and going through meno) anxiety attacks, etc. The nervous jitter both externally and internally or just one of them. There are so many. The book called , The Pause is really good. Should read it. So you are in perimenopause and it's apparently normal to doctors and gynes, even Psych's that we go through anxiety with this, lovely, ain't it?

Take care and many hugs to you,

Andrea

snodove
06-24-2004, 05:52 AM
Hi Andrea, I will look for that took thanks. I guess the nurse meant my female hormones were normal. Like you said what is normal. I had been on HRT so I know they believe I am peri. My GP said I was in I think 99. I Know it started before that.
I hadn't had a day like yesterday in a year or so.. geez. I hate that feeling I was having. Felt like I could scream or something. Just nervous ect ect. Heart beat too fast all that. I did take a xanax and that seemed to help. You sure know alot about this.
Who wrote that book? I have read a few books on this but can't remember who wrote that one. I need to look it for it. Thank again Andrea, Hugs, Polly

ainfante
06-24-2004, 11:15 AM
Hi Andrea, I will look for that took thanks. I guess the nurse meant my female hormones were normal. Like you said what is normal. I had been on HRT so I know they believe I am peri. My GP said I was in I think 99. I Know it started before that.
I hadn't had a day like yesterday in a year or so.. geez. I hate that feeling I was having. Felt like I could scream or something. Just nervous ect ect. Heart beat too fast all that. I did take a xanax and that seemed to help. You sure know alot about this.
Who wrote that book? I have read a few books on this but can't remember who wrote that one. I need to look it for it. Thank again Andrea, Hugs, Polly

I know about those anxiety attacks during perimenopause, I'm a queen at it. The book is written by Lonnie Barbach, Ph.D. Called "The Pause". You will love it. You know they are saying it is totally natural to have panic/anxiety attacks related to perimenopause and menopause. Unbelievable! As my brother use to say. I miss him.

Hugs, Andrea

snodove
06-24-2004, 01:43 PM
Thanks Andrea.. This is so weird. I have gone ages without feeling like this but I am about going nuts. I want to climb a wall today. lol My heart is going fast and all that stuff. I have a headache and just feel terrible. I know it is only perimenopause... but geez give us a break.. lol Thanks for bearing with me. Hope you doing ok. Hugs, Polly

ainfante
06-25-2004, 05:27 PM
Thanks Andrea.. This is so weird. I have gone ages without feeling like this but I am about going nuts. I want to climb a wall today. lol My heart is going fast and all that stuff. I have a headache and just feel terrible. I know it is only perimenopause... but geez give us a break.. lol Thanks for bearing with me. Hope you doing ok. Hugs, Polly


I know what you mean Polly. I hate those feelings too. Are you close to your period? I woke up with horrible leg cramps, I mean horrible and they'e been on and off all day and still with the equiliberium thing, LOL My period is due tomorrow, I can feel it but we'll see if it comes on time. The perimenopause causes so much anxiety, doesn't it?

ANdrea

snodove
06-26-2004, 06:46 AM
Hi Andrea, How are you legs today. I hope better. Well , you asked me if I was close to my period. I didn't think I was because I had at the end of May and the first of June. It was very light though. Guess what... grr. It started up again. Not sure if I spotting or this will be like the last one very light. I hate having my period twice a month but it has been like this or not regular for a long time now. Some days it is short between times and some days it will go 30 plus. lol weird. But yeah I hate this anxiety. I don't know if part of mine might be the new potassium pills. I didn't take any yesterday. Called the dr. they had their answer machine all day on but it was where you could leave a message with the nurse.. and she would call back. I waited all day and they didn't call me back. Grrrrr. I called twice. That makes me so mad. He is a good doctor but whenever I have had to talk to his nurse it has been a major pain. She is kind of a know it all. Thankfully my GP doctor's nurses get right you or as soon as they can.
I guess I will wait til Monday to find out. The bad thing was I wasted a whole day. We had planned on doing something.. and waited to hear from them. lol Oh well. I hope you feel better Andrea. You are in my thoughts and prayers, Polly

ainfante
06-26-2004, 11:47 AM
Hi Polly. I don't think it's the Potassium, it wouldn't make your heart race unless you were totally overloaded on it and I would definitely check that out. Anxiety will make the heart race, etc. and this could have happened because you began to spot or bleed. Check the Potassium first to make sure you are not getting too much and then if it is normal, just accept 100% that the anxiety is from going through the change. Remember, the change is sporatic over years and does not happen overnight. The body and mind goes through phases of adjustment over years to adapt to different levels of hormones, the wonderful DECLINE! LOL ARe you taking Potassium through Prescription or a vitamin. Let me know.

My legs are better today, I just let them mess with me yesterday, kept going through them and the dizzy's. Don't forget that alot has to do with the adrenaline glands also producing estrogen and progesterone that the ovaries are not producing anymore or at least very little, so we go through the surges and then we go through the low cortisol/adrenaline stages. Lovely isn't it?

Andrea

snodove
06-26-2004, 02:53 PM
Andrea,oh it sure is. Glad your legs are better.I felt better this morning but here we go again. Yesterday, I didn't take any potassium citrate. Today I took one after breakfast but I still think this peri. part of it anyway. I am like you I know this comes and goes off and on for yrs. The potassium Citrate if for my kidney stones.Something to do with the acidity of the urine. Calcium,ox all that stuff. Hopefully, we can get this staightened out Monday.Hugs ,Polly

ainfante
06-26-2004, 03:51 PM
Andrea,oh it sure is. Glad your legs are better.I felt better this morning but here we go again. Yesterday, I didn't take any potassium citrate. Today I took one after breakfast but I still think this peri. part of it anyway. I am like you I know this comes and goes off and on for yrs. The potassium Citrate if for my kidney stones.Something to do with the acidity of the urine. Calcium,ox all that stuff. Hopefully, we can get this staightened out Monday.Hugs ,Polly


Is is a prescription Potassium or vitamin?

Andrea

snodove
06-27-2004, 07:24 AM
Hi Andrea, It is prescription. Potassium citrate. I take it three times a day. How you feeling today. Good I hope. I am just having my period. Lovely. lol on top of everything else. Other than that am ok so far. Hugs, Polly

ainfante
06-27-2004, 10:18 AM
Hi Andrea, It is prescription. Potassium citrate. I take it three times a day. How you feeling today. Good I hope. I am just having my period. Lovely. lol on top of everything else. Other than that am ok so far. Hugs, Polly

Ok. Yes, your doc needs to watch prescription Potassium. Well, you see how you were feeling before your period came down? I'm having a rough time with my muscles and clenching teeth. My period was due yesterday. This is too much. I guess I'm not going to feel like myself for awhile and need to accept that. Guess it will be a pinch of Xanax day. LOL

Andrea

snodove
06-28-2004, 10:14 AM
Hmm didn't get this message in my email. Sorry you aren't feel to good. I am having a heavier period this month than I have had in awhile. yuck. clots the whole deal.
I still haven't heard from my Uro doctor's nurse. I am going to call her later today if she doesn't get back with me. Didn't have anymore papitations but I cut back on the potassium citrate. I still need to talk to her though. Really, bugs me when they don't get back to you. Hope you are better today. I am in some ways , some ways not.
Hope the xanax has helped. Oh, does it cause heart papitations. I was reading and there is alot you shouldn't take with potassium citrate. I hope that didn't cause my problem. Hugs ,Polly

ainfante
06-28-2004, 11:02 AM
Hmm didn't get this message in my email. Sorry you aren't feel to good. I am having a heavier period this month than I have had in awhile. yuck. clots the whole deal.
I still haven't heard from my Uro doctor's nurse. I am going to call her later today if she doesn't get back with me. Didn't have anymore papitations but I cut back on the potassium citrate. I still need to talk to her though. Really, bugs me when they don't get back to you. Hope you are better today. I am in some ways , some ways not.
Hope the xanax has helped. Oh, does it cause heart papitations. I was reading and there is alot you shouldn't take with potassium citrate. I hope that didn't cause my problem. Hugs ,Polly


No, I doubt seriously the Xanax would interfere or react to the Potassium. Xanax pretty much can be taken with anything. It's a benzo drug and works on the Gabba part of nervous system. I'm still with the dizzy's and still haven't gotten my period yet. Mentally, I feel good.

Hugs, Andrea

snodove
06-28-2004, 05:01 PM
Hi Andrea, thanks for anwering my question about Xanax. The doctor office still didn't call and I got busy today and was out some walking and running around so I will call tomorrow and ask them about taking my vitiman with potassium Citrate.LOL they finally called me about 5pm today. Geez, I am so mad. Let me explain. Ok, the doctor's nurse says what is wrong. I said well I was having heart papitations. She said did you stop taking the medicine. I said yes for a day but I took two pills Sunday and today. Not three. Says says well you must be ok.. grr... You know Andrea, I am supposed to take three pills is the prescription. So I said well does it matter if I take a multivitimans. She had the doctor near by an asked him. It was ok he said. She said I guess you don't need anything then. I told her again I was supposed to be taking three pills once a day.. so she talked to the doctor again. I wish I had said let me talk to him but I didn't think to. So she said well he wants you to get some blood work one tomorrow. I said ok. I was going to ask her something about it but I could tell she had been in a big hurry to go ever since she called me in the first place. I never did get to ask her what I wanted to. I had been reading certain things about not to take with that like anticids ect. I wondered to if Mag.. was ok to take with it. So she said she had to go and good bye.. geez.. I am think I will say something to the doctor next time I go to him. I pay good money for his services. He always takes his time with me and all but not his nurse. I thought that was down right rude. Just because it was almost 5pm. Any suggestions. Maybe I am being a baby about it.
I am glad you are not doing to bad today. I am just feeling the aweful period nasties. lol
I think this period is heavier than my last ones lately. It figures. lol
I will check with you soon. It is so nice to have you and KC to talk to.Hugs, Polly

ainfante
06-28-2004, 10:04 PM
Hi Polly. YOu should be able to take magnesium with it and calcium since potassium, Calcium and magnesium support one another in the digestive part. But since you are taking a prescription, you should ask you doctor. The nurse is rude and I would have told her to put the doc on the phone. I would tell him about that, since she probably wanted to dart out the door. Maybe she should take up another career, LOL!

Let me know what about the blood work and what the doc says. I'm going to my urologist on Thursday. I know someone who is a medical intuitive and she told me that my thyroid doesn't support stress and that I was lacking Potassium. My blood Potassium was good when I drew blood but she says it has nothing to do with cellular. Now had a thyroid problem before, but thyroid seems to be within normal ranges so I guess I'm fine, docs do not want to treat it, says they are normal. But I know my thyroid doesn't support stress, she is right. So now, I need to talk to urologist about this kidney stone, they want to go up my bladder and they supposely can see my kidney from there, but don't want to do it. Also, I ran the urine test today and no more infection but still small trace of blood in urine. Now, I'm having flashes and my period still hasn't come yet, it was due on SAt. Also, my stomach and bladder are burning too with the flashes, so go figure this perimenopause!

Andrea

PJG
06-29-2004, 01:45 AM
Hi Ladies,
I'm glad I found this thread. I haven't been on here for several months. I'm 52 and still having regular periods. However I am now several days late. Anyway I have been having a big problem with lightheadedness and being off-balance. I was shopping with some friends when suddenly I had a strange sensation go all over my body. It sorta came in waves and I was glad I had the cart to hang on to. Do you think this was adrenaline? I've had adrenaline rushes many times but this was much more intense. I kept walking as though nothing was wrong, all the while being thankful I was the one with the cart. I felt better after about 10 minutes but was left feeling a little anxious. I do have generalized anxiety disorder which has escalated the past 3 or 4 years. Thanks for listening and I would appreciate any insight.
Pat

snodove
06-29-2004, 09:37 AM
Hi Andrea, I meant to ask you did you mean they are going up with a basket to get your stone? I have had that done before twice. It isn't painful or not for me. Now taking a stent out is .. but you don't have to worry about that.
I hope you feel better today. I am feeling pretty uptight today. I got to get that blood work but I don't think that is why. I think it is just the peri going on. I will try to write you more later today. Hugs, Polly

snodove
06-29-2004, 09:39 AM
Hi Pat, I don't know to much about that.This a great group of ladies. Very helpful and supportive. I would say Andrea might be able to help you more than I can.
Glad you found us. Hope to be of support. Polly

ainfante
06-29-2004, 10:08 AM
Hi Ladies,
I'm glad I found this thread. I haven't been on here for several months. I'm 52 and still having regular periods. However I am now several days late. Anyway I have been having a big problem with lightheadedness and being off-balance. I was shopping with some friends when suddenly I had a strange sensation go all over my body. It sorta came in waves and I was glad I had the cart to hang on to. Do you think this was adrenaline? I've had adrenaline rushes many times but this was much more intense. I kept walking as though nothing was wrong, all the while being thankful I was the one with the cart. I felt better after about 10 minutes but was left feeling a little anxious. I do have generalized anxiety disorder which has escalated the past 3 or 4 years. Thanks for listening and I would appreciate any insight.
Pat

Hi Pat. I have PTSD (Post Traumatic Stress Disorder) and for the past four months I've had the anxiety and the anxiety attacks. I'm feeling much better, but I just wanted to comment on the equiliberium. Yes, this is part of hormonal changes and do not get into it or you will sensitize it more. I'm sure it was the power surge, as we call it where you feel like your adrenaline glands are about to make you jump out of your body. Try to focus on something else when this happens. I do suggest, if you haven't had a physical, that you do have one and check your thyroid and sugar. If this is all normal, then by all means it was definitely a power surge.

Andrea

ainfante
06-29-2004, 10:11 AM
Hi Andrea, I meant to ask you did you mean they are going up with a basket to get your stone? I have had that done before twice. It isn't painful or not for me. Now taking a stent out is .. but you don't have to worry about that.
I hope you feel better today. I am feeling pretty uptight today. I got to get that blood work but I don't think that is why. I think it is just the peri going on. I will try to write you more later today. Hugs, Polly

Hi Polly. I know about that uptight feeling. It's definitely the peri. What I have noticed is, if we give it our most devine attention, it worsens the anxiety. Try to focus on something else when your body gets to you. If you feel like crying, cry, it's a good release tool. It's the adrenaline surges or power surges that are making us feel like this. And if you are so uptight, don't be afraid to take a pinch of Xanax just to relax some of you so the uptightness doesn't get to you and cause you to have an anxiety attack. And if you do have one, oh well, just remember, it will not hurt, harm or kill you.

Much hugs,

Andrea

snodove
06-29-2004, 02:40 PM
Hi Andrea, I got my blood work done. A friend of mine came and got me. I thought I would be home hrs ago. LOL geez. they had to run around alot. I am not complaining. I just wish I could have gotten home sooner. I didn't take any xanax cuz I wasn't sure if it would effect the blood test but I wish I had. Oh I did have a good cry this morning. It does help. I just felt so frustrated. No real reason. Little things getting to me. Thank you and you are right we need try not to focus on things but I guess when we got to do the blood work it was crowded. (glad I preregistered.) and just waiting and that normally doens't bother me but this lady was anxious so that didn't help me.. lol
anyway we made it. Now , I need to clean , do the washing before dh comes home. He will think I did nothing all day. I figure he works hard all day and I should do my part too. I don't like driving in traffic and that is why my friend took me.
I better go for now. Hugs, Polly I am off to take a xanax..

ainfante
06-29-2004, 03:37 PM
Hi Polly. I totally understand and I'm with you on the little things make us anxious or cry. I'm probably going to take a pinch of Xanax too. All this Iraq stuff is making me think so hard about my brother who passed away 4 months ago. Anyways, I'm so waiting for my period and this will make me take a Xanax, LOL You are a very good woman and wife. God Bless You for thinking of your husband and family before yourself. But you need to also think of yourself. During meno, I believe women need to pay more attention to themselves and their needs and dreams. We have put through so much for everyone else, during this phase of our lives, we are coming to terms with not being able to have children anymore and we are getting older. So good for you to think of your husband but pay a little more attention to yourself.

Hugs and Love Andrea

kc1216
06-29-2004, 04:23 PM
Yep! Pay some attention to yourself Polly! Andrea is right on the money there. Funny though, when we pay attention to ourselves, we get thought of as being selfish and in turn we get the guilts from it - at least I do. I'm on HIGH ANXIETY right now - nothing is helping. Physically the stomach and bladder thing aren't too bad but I did my share of crying since the weekend and I feel resentment, anger, frustration and although I have these feelings sometimes, they come on stronger with this peri now. Everything is stronger! Thank God for this board or I'd lose it. I couldn't go on yesterday and was chomping at the bit. I need to feel that I am not alone and that you ladies on this board are here to help.

Andrea - I know about the iraq thing - I am trying so hard to not watch the news anymore - it's eating at me - everything is bad news. I'm also sorry about your brother - 4 months ago isn't a very long time ago so you are probably still going through a grieving process - losing anyone close is hard. I deal with things by anger and that is real bad.

My temper went off at lunch hour. Some dirt bag in a minivan parked so close to me at the grocery store that I couldn't open my door to get in my car. The van was parked on a slant, slightly touching my mirror and it was very close to my door where I could not open it all the way and jump in. I had to load my groceries into the passenger side and get in that way. Before I did though, I made sure nobody was looking, went around the front of my car to the van and let the air out of their passenger side tire. I was fuming. I know it's wrong but I'm losing it. I think I need anger management. Haven't taken xanax - want to be on nothing for my endo tomorrow.

You all hang in there!
kc

snodove
06-29-2004, 06:28 PM
Ahh Andrea. You touch me today. Thank you. You are right sometimes We don't take good care of ourselves. I guess it is cuz we are taught to take care of others.
I am so sorry about your brother. Bless your heart. I can't imagine. I didn't know. Thanks for telling me. I will be praying for you. How hard that is. I lost my dad so in that manner I can relate. I was in my early 20's. I miss him so much and I know you miss your brother. I want to thank you Andrea for your friendship. It means alot to me.
You get some rest and take care of yourself. Hugs and love, Polly
P.S. I did take a xanax and feel better.

snodove
06-29-2004, 06:32 PM
Hi KC, I am like you it is so nice to come here and have friends to talk to about things.
I am sorry you had such a rough day.. Sorry you had to have such a bad time at the store too... grr. right.
I have trouble letting myself take time for me. Like you say I start feeling guilty which crazy. We do alot for others and it is time to do for us some. Now if the guilt would go away.. lol
Hope you have a good evening. Hugs ,Polly

kc1216
06-29-2004, 07:08 PM
Hi Polly, I came home to silent treatment. Hubby and I talked and it's better now but he's really having a hard time with my up and down moods. I want to be okay and I come home trying to think nice thoughts and I am so negative all the time. Wonder how they put up with us sometimes but we do need time to ourselves or else we'd be meaner! At least I would:) This board has been a positive experience for me. I don't have many girlfriends who are going thru this so calling them about is a waste of time.

Hang in there and try to let go of the guilt. I'm supposed to do a family thing tonight but passed - instead, I'm taking myself out for the biggest chocolate sundae I can get my hands on - want to pig out before my endo tomorrow cuz no food till tomorrow night:( I was feeling guilty at first but when I thought I've never done this for myself - never treated myself to a huge desert - well there's gotta be a first time! Plus I really need my peace and quiet.

Hang in there,
kc

snodove
06-29-2004, 08:40 PM
Hey KC, Pig out for me too. That would be good. yummy.
I really goofed I wrote a long note to you and put the enter button and lost it.
I hope you are feeing better. I will try to write you more tomorrow. Hugs ,Polly

kc1216
06-29-2004, 09:32 PM
hahahaha, i lose lots of stuff on here! Just got back from my icecream - my stomach is definitely NOT thanking me. But it was worth it - actually I was bad all day with food. I have this feeling of doom that I'm going to die under anethesia. Just the good old anxiety having it's way with me so I ate EVERYTHING I wasn't supposed to today - oatmeal with like 6 sugars in it, tv dinner for lunch, soda, caffeinated coffee, candy bars, sushi with LOTS of wasabi on it, green beans with ALMONDS, and then my icecream. I figure if I get this done tomorrow I want to be sick so they say they can't find anything - sick thinking, huh?

Anyway, off to the bathroom, not feeling so good.

Hang in there!
kc

ainfante
06-29-2004, 10:37 PM
Hi KC: Hope everything goes well with your surgery tomorrow. I have the same fear, not waking up form Anesthesia, that's why I won't go do the bladder thing. Yes, anxiety.

Hi Polly. Thank you for your friendship and your condolensces, did I spell that right, probably not. LOL I was on a rollercoaster today with my hormones, on my way to pick up my daughter from camp and there came a power surge, been kind of hot flashing around, LOL But when I feel it in the pit of my stomach like I want to cry or jump out of my body, well know what it is now and try to calm myself down. I feel okay now and glad you took a Xanax and are feeling better now.

Blessing, love and hugs,

Andrea

snodove
06-30-2004, 05:35 AM
Hi Andrea, Sure thing. I just really appreciate your friendship and KC too. I have one other friend here in town that understands about hormones. She had a hyst. and she went through early menopause. She was on a Estrogen patch for awhile but she couldn't handle the side effects.
But I am thankful for you and KC.
That has to be so hard for you. I am glad you can tell when those surges come. I think maybe that is what I had before my period. I just felt weird and like my face just kind felt odd. I didn't really get hot but it was weird feeling. Went up my body.
I hope you have a better day today. I hope your daughter had fun at camp.
I used to go to camp when I was a kid and liked it almost every year but a few when kids tease you. lol. I pray God bless you too.
Hugs and luv, Polly

kc1216
06-30-2004, 10:03 AM
Hi Ladies!

Andrea, what exactly do they want to do to your bladder? I was awake when they did mine - it hurt but was overwith quick. They put something in me and looked around and I squirmed but it was overwith in I'd say about 2 minutes - that is when he said it looked inflamed. I don't know what I am doing to inflame it either. I know there is a procedure where you get knocked out and they distend your bladder with some kind of solution? I never had that done though. Seems like if I eat anything with lots of sugar or high in carbs I get it and I can't figure out how this correlates. Like yesterday it was bad and all I ate were carbs and sweets.

I also have a friend who got a hyst at the age of 36. She said it was the best thing she ever did - guess she was one of those lucky ones - no side effects. She had period problems all her life. She gained a little bit of weight but that is it.

Hang in there with the Flashes Polly! My mom takes the blue-green algae tablets - you can find them online or in healthfood stores. They also make a "blue drink". She said it was the best thing she ever done. I was just talking to her last night and she is still taking it. I've had the night sweats for like 3 nights now - my period isn't due until another two weeks. Could be nerves, maybe the xanax, I don't know but I've been taking a whole one at night instead of a 1/2. Not sure.

I just had a cup of tea - all I can have today - bummer. Wonder if I can smoke with my endo at 2 - I cannot go that long without one!

Take it easy,
kc

ainfante
06-30-2004, 10:53 AM
Hi KC: They want to go up my bladder but I guess they want to open it up so they want to give me Anesthesia. Maybe they want to look at my kidneys that way too, at least that's what the nurse mentioned. I have an appt. tomorrow to see the uro. But if I have my period then, I have to cancel. They still found traces of blood in my urine.

Hope all goes well with the endo today. Let us know as we are thinking of you.

Andrea

kc1216
06-30-2004, 11:08 AM
I think it is called bladder distention - I was reading about that on the net somewhere. They fill it up with some kind of sodium solution and they can get a better look at it that way. I still have blood in my urine too - I take those AZO home tests and bring them to the dr. They test and find as well. Last time I got macrobid and it really helped - almost went away but once I finished the meds, came back again. Not real bad but it is there.

Thanks, I'll probably (hopefully) be all groggy and stoned so will most likely post ya back tomorrow!

kc

ainfante
06-30-2004, 01:38 PM
I think it is called bladder distention - I was reading about that on the net somewhere. They fill it up with some kind of sodium solution and they can get a better look at it that way. I still have blood in my urine too - I take those AZO home tests and bring them to the dr. They test and find as well. Last time I got macrobid and it really helped - almost went away but once I finished the meds, came back again. Not real bad but it is there.

Thanks, I'll probably (hopefully) be all groggy and stoned so will most likely post ya back tomorrow!

kc
KC: Be well and hope all well comes out today.

Blessings,

Andrea

rmc12
06-30-2004, 01:57 PM
KC...just a note to say hope all goes well with your surgery. I got a kick out of you having the chocolate sundae the other day and it was really good to treat yourself. The thing you said about anesthesia is a fear I have too. Just hate the thought of being "out' like that, so I know what you mean. Good thoughts are being sent your way. rmc

rmc12
06-30-2004, 02:04 PM
Andrea,

I was reading this thread and what you mentioned about your brother. So sorry to hear about it and with all one has to go thru with peri anxiety and moods I am sure it makes it even more difficult when one is going thru a loss like that. I lost 2 aunts that I am very close to in Jan within a week of each other and I really think a lot of my anxiety that I had in late Feb. and all of March was compounded by all that we were going thru in our family. so my heart goes out to you with your loss.

You said you were on a rollercoaster with hormones today and I can relate as I have been there. I have been doing pretty good but this weekend as I said before I think my hormones were bouncing all over the place!! I took a lot of deep breaths and it seemed to help a bit. The Xanax is there if I need it and I , too, feel as you do, that if we need it , it is a good idea to help at this time.

Have a good and calming day,
rmc

ainfante
06-30-2004, 03:11 PM
RMC12: Sorry about your Aunts. I can totally relate to the loss. STill waiting for my period which has really put me on the edge once again. Not that I don't have already much to yet deal with, LOL Possibly I will take a pinch of Xanax today. I try to not, but maybe I will since I have to go to group therapy tonight.

Thanks for your support.

andrea

snodove
06-30-2004, 06:37 PM
Hi Andrea, the doctor called. That was fast about my potassium. This was a different nurse thank goodness. You know this doesn't make sense. I was having heart papitations as you know. Taking three pills a day. So I stopped and was taking two a day. So they do blood work. Guess what my potassium is low so he told me to take three a day. Then he wants to check that in a week. THe nurse was nice. I figure I will try this but if I happens again I am going to call the office again. I mean maybe even on 3 pills it is low cuz that is what happened then. So you know on two is low.
I am wondering if I am peeing it all out.. lol
I sure don 't want to od on potassium. We will see . I will be anxoius to know what my blood work is next week.
How are you. Good I hope. I splurged and finally got a hair cut. A new lady did it and she did great. The other one had retired that had done. She was good but I Think this one is better and she cares how you like it too. Long story but I had one hair dresser and she never would cut it like I wanted.. so that is why I had the last one. lol
Hope you have a good evening. Hugs, Polly
How you feeling.
How are you KC. Hope your endo went ok.

ainfante
06-30-2004, 07:57 PM
Polly, you are not going to od on Potassium. Take the three a day so your potassium can come up. Potassium is important. I'm surprised you're not in agony with muscle cramps, etc. The magnesium and calcium should help you absorb potassium, or at least the magnesium. You should ask your doc to check your magnesium level. Generally, if Potassium is low, then magnesium is low also. You may have gotten a little palpitation due to your period coming on. Potassium and magnesium help stop palpitations.
STill haven't gotten my period yet. Waiting for this blasted thing to come down already. It's so off. I can't even keep up anymore but it's driving my nerves crazy!
Well, I will be going to group therapy tonight. Hope it goes well.

Love and hugs,

Andrea

snodove
06-30-2004, 08:25 PM
Hi Andrea, I doubt I will OD on potassium. I was kind of joking. I am wondering and seriously if my potassium was low for a long time since my gyn did that test and it was low on that other potassium I was taking. It wasn't potassium citrate.
I was reading about the mag. working with potassium too.
I hope your group therpy goes well tonight. I hope you have a visiter too.Thanks for being here. Hugs, Polly

ainfante
07-01-2004, 11:22 AM
Hi Polly. No visitor yet and it's driving my body nuts! Group therapy was okay, wound up playing counselor to everyone else and forgot about myself. I did speak about my brother before the meeting was over, but I believe this is not the group for me. These are more people who are trying to deal with their careers and self-esteem. I need to be with people who have experienced severe trauma in their lives.

Thanks for thinking of me sweetie. I really appreciate having you and others on this board.

Blessing, love and hugs, Andrea

snodove
07-01-2004, 01:25 PM
I agree with you Andrea. You need a different type of group. When I went through my divorce I found a great group my doctor suggested and it was free at the hospital. It really helped some of the grief. I think it is important.
I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers. I go to the GI for a follow up about the lower GI.
I am going to ask him about potassium lose and maybe if that could have caused some of my stomach pain.
Love and prayers. Polly

ainfante
07-01-2004, 03:00 PM
I agree with you Andrea. You need a different type of group. When I went through my divorce I found a great group my doctor suggested and it was free at the hospital. It really helped some of the grief. I think it is important.
I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers. I go to the GI for a follow up about the lower GI.
I am going to ask him about potassium lose and maybe if that could have caused some of my stomach pain.
Love and prayers. Polly


Good job! Yes, GI's tend to know alot about vitamins, etc. My mom and my sister had pieces of their colon removed from infected Diverticulitis and they both got vitamins from them that really helped after the surgery. Good luck and let me know what's going on.

Love and Hugs, Andrea

snodove
07-01-2004, 03:48 PM
Good job! Yes, GI's tend to know alot about vitamins, etc. My mom and my sister had pieces of their colon removed from infected Diverticulitis and they both got vitamins from them that really helped after the surgery. Good luck and let me know what's going on.

Love and Hugs, Andrea


Hi Andrea,
Well, he didn't say much about the potassium causing pain or C. He said it can though. He told me I can't stay on Zelnorm much longer.Not supposed to take it more than a year. He gave me some medicine like Levsin for the pain but the last kind Benyl didn't do anything for me so I hope this works.
I can't think of the name of it.I figured he would want me back in a yr but he didn't. I guess he isn't going to manage my IBS for me. lol My Gp has been doing it.
I hope you are having a good day.Hugs, Polly

rmc12
07-01-2004, 04:29 PM
Andrea,

First of all that is great that you are going to group therapy and I think you are right that another type of group would be helpful to you with all you have been through.

You mentioned your period not being there yet. I know it is frustrating. The longest stretch I have gone is getting it at day 42 and once at day 50 and then it went right back to every 23 or 24 days and the earliest was day 18 or 19. So it is all over the place the past couple years especially. Last two have come on day 31. This one feels like it is right around the corner and it is day 19. The only thing that I can count on it seems in this peri rollercoaster is that things are not predictable!! How long has it been since you got yours and how often are you now getting them?

Hope you are having a better day.

rmc

ainfante
07-01-2004, 04:58 PM
Hi RMC: For the last four months, I've had a period every two weeks wtih spotting in between, hot flashes, etc. Finally in May and April, it came late and was very painful. Now I'm waiting for it again and it's day 35. Normally I get my period like clockwork every 23 to 28 days. Two years ago I went through the same thing minus the hot flashes. So here I am. Now what I hate the most is this equiliberium dizzy thing I'm going through and I have it pretty bad today.

Andrea

snodove
07-01-2004, 06:34 PM
Wow 35 days .. Andrea. I have been there or pretty close 32 before. It is annoying. I hope you get some relief soon. I need to get dinner. DH has been rather grouchy lately. I haven't been the best either. Oh by the way. I looked up Xanax and it said not to drink coffee or have choclate while using it. Said it effects how it works. Nice if they would tell you.. lol Hugs, Polly

ainfante
07-01-2004, 09:11 PM
Wow 35 days .. Andrea. I have been there or pretty close 32 before. It is annoying. I hope you get some relief soon. I need to get dinner. DH has been rather grouchy lately. I haven't been the best either. Oh by the way. I looked up Xanax and it said not to drink coffee or have choclate while using it. Said it effects how it works. Nice if they would tell you.. lol Hugs, Polly


I know. When I first started going through the crazies with peri and anxiety, I stopped all chocolate, sugar, etc. I haven't been a coffee drinker in years so that was no biggie, but the sugar and chocolate was. I'm still craving it but won't touch it, it would make me even crazier!

Hugs, Andrea

PJG
07-02-2004, 01:25 AM
Andrea,
I think I read somewhere on here that you have had a problem with feeling off-balance. For the past 2 weeks I have been so lightheaded and off-balance that it is driving me crazy! I do have GAD and have had these feeling off & on for literally 20 years but these past couple of years it has gotten much worse. I know these are both peri-menopausal symptoms. My period was due last week and I had a few drops last Thursday and that was it. Up until now I have had regular periods. I don't know if this has anything to do with these symptoms or not. I am also getting so depressed because the lightheaded feeling and the off-balance feeling is pretty much 24/7. Of course I also have severe muscle tension, numbness, tingling, anxiety and extreme fatigue. I have been wanting to try ground flaxseed. Have you tried that? I take calcium, vit. e, centrum, and magnesium. I would like to add the b complex vitamins but I'm not sure of the dosage. Any advice from anyone would be appreciated. Sorry for rambling.
Pat

snodove
07-02-2004, 07:15 AM
I know. When I first started going through the crazies with peri and anxiety, I stopped all chocolate, sugar, etc. I haven't been a coffee drinker in years so that was no biggie, but the sugar and chocolate was. I'm still craving it but won't touch it, it would make me even crazier!

Hugs, Andrea

Hi Glad you could give up coffee. I am afraid I can't but I have cut back on.Once in awhile I eat choclate but not often. I Guess I was just surprised that caffine effects the xanax and makes it less effective.
I thought we were going to the cabin this weekend but am not sure now.
Hugs, Polly

ainfante
07-02-2004, 11:44 AM
Andrea,
I think I read somewhere on here that you have had a problem with feeling off-balance. For the past 2 weeks I have been so lightheaded and off-balance that it is driving me crazy! I do have GAD and have had these feeling off & on for literally 20 years but these past couple of years it has gotten much worse. I know these are both peri-menopausal symptoms. My period was due last week and I had a few drops last Thursday and that was it. Up until now I have had regular periods. I don't know if this has anything to do with these symptoms or not. I am also getting so depressed because the lightheaded feeling and the off-balance feeling is pretty much 24/7. Of course I also have severe muscle tension, numbness, tingling, anxiety and extreme fatigue. I have been wanting to try ground flaxseed. Have you tried that? I take calcium, vit. e, centrum, and magnesium. I would like to add the b complex vitamins but I'm not sure of the dosage. Any advice from anyone would be appreciated. Sorry for rambling.
Pat


Hi Pat. Yes, the dizzy's can come from any anxiety, not just GAD and it can also accompany perimenopause and menopause. I know plenty of friends who have the dizzy's or this off balance equiliberium during peri or meno and they do not have any anxiety disorders. Whatever you do, do not let the dizzy's get to you, this is how I throw them off too, yes they are so bothersome, I know, but if you give the attention they want which is a part of the body sensitation that comes with anxiety, it will only worsen them and cause more anxiety. The problem with anxiety is we tend to get into our bodies too much and this is what makes us more anxious. I take the centrum too and mag and calcium. I donot take the B Complex cause it makes me so naseaus It sounds like your periods are totally changing and that is the first sign of perimenopause, the first stages before menopause. and this can happen for years or a short period of time, everyone is different. I hope to see you here again, and please by all means participate, that way we can help each other by our feedbacks.

Andrea

ainfante
07-02-2004, 11:47 AM
Hi Polly. How are you today? Yes, I could imagine coffee taking away from Xanax due to the fact that Xanax is a benzo which helps the gabba in the brain and caffeine is a stimulant and that awakens the brain and body. Caffeine and anxiety do not go well together and neither do sugars and especially chocolates, trust me, experienced it! I use to eat chocolate all the time before my brother passed away, even during peri but now since I have the anxiety, have to stay away from it. Boy, do I miss it!
Stay in touch with me.

PS I changed my appt. with Urologist until two weeks now.

Hugs, Andrea

rmc12
07-02-2004, 02:09 PM
Hi,

Pat : I agree with Andrea about the "dizzies" ...it is a strange feeling to be sure and it is hard not to get wigged out about it. For me when it happens it is like an "out of it feeling" with feeling "offbalance". My allergies play a part in this as my ears get plugged due to that and when I am feeling that in addition to the peri-dizzies it is exaggerated. I do think as Andrea said that if we dwell on them it is worse as with anxiety in general. But ignoring them I know is easier said than done.

Regarding the B complex. I do take a B complex that has B 12 in it also. I seem to take it fine, so everyone is different where that is concerned. I have been taking it religiously since April and I do feel it has helped the anxiety issue for me. Not to say it is all gone but it is better than it was previously. I take that and Estroven, a vitamin and herbal supplement that is over the counter , along with E and Calcium and a multi.

I have not tried the flaxseed in answer to your question. I know there are many on this board that have. If you have not yet, I would highly recommend a book called "the Pause" . It goes into different symptoms and why they are happening at this time and suggestions on what to take.

Andrea : I did not know that about the Xanax not working as well with caffeine but it makes sense. Hope you are doing well today.

rmc

ainfante
07-02-2004, 02:58 PM
Hi RMC: It was Polly who mentioned about caffeine diluting the works of Xanax. I agreed cause caffeine is a stimulant where Xanax is a relaxer.
As far as not paying attention to the sensitized symptoms of anxiety, yes, I agree it is hard and I struggle with it everyday. But I have learned this from Dr. Weekes book all about bad nerves, or something on that order and she is a Psych who deals with menopause, nervous breakdowns, anxiety and panic attacks. She is very very good. By paying too much attention to our symptoms, causes us to be more anxious about them and we wind up having general anxiety or panic attacks cause we begin to worry something is horrible wrong with us. If we've gone to the doc and have had all blood tests and physicals done and can't find a thing, then we related these symptoms (if in the age bracket or have been diagnosed) to perimenopause, menopause and anxiety. Anxiety alone will cause symptims very close to thyroid and menopause, they all closely where the same shoe size. I've noticed that by worrying over the dizzy's or getting into them, I'm about ready to have a panic attack. By acknowledging they are there but I will float through them leaves me without panic attacks and they will go away and then come back, etc. I'm stillwaiting for my period, btw. LOL

Andrea

PJG
07-03-2004, 01:50 AM
Andrea,
I am still waiting for mine too. lol I have Claire Weekes book on tape and I agree that she knew what she was talking about. After a week of lightheadedness and off-balance feelings 24/7, I finally had a good night. Can you believe that I went to my mom's to watch fireworks, there were about 15 members of my family there, and I laughed and had a good time with no symptoms! That kinda makes me lean towards anxiety as the cause. However I do believe that peri-menopause makes the symptoms much worse. I've also been doing deep muscle relaxation which I think helps tremendously.
Pat

ainfante
07-03-2004, 12:33 PM
Andrea,
I am still waiting for mine too. lol I have Claire Weekes book on tape and I agree that she knew what she was talking about. After a week of lightheadedness and off-balance feelings 24/7, I finally had a good night. Can you believe that I went to my mom's to watch fireworks, there were about 15 members of my family there, and I laughed and had a good time with no symptoms! That kinda makes me lean towards anxiety as the cause. However I do believe that peri-menopause makes the symptoms much worse. I've also been doing deep muscle relaxation which I think helps tremendously.
Pat


Good for you Pat! And good for you to perform the deep muscle relaxation. That's the spirit! Yes, most is from anxiety, but remember, anxiety accompany's perimenopause and meno for many. That's why the same symptoms for anxiety are also listed for perimenopause. Have a great $th!

Andrea

snodove
07-03-2004, 05:52 PM
Andrea KC everyone,
I wanted to wish you a Happy 4th. We stayed home but that is ok. To hot to enjoy much at the cabin.
How you feeling Andrea and KC, others. I am doing ok today.
Just hot, worked outside some. Sweat like mad. I used to not do that. lol
I hope you all are feeling better.
I haven't had any stress today thank the Lord.
Hugs and prayers, Polly

ainfante
07-03-2004, 07:40 PM
Andrea KC everyone,
I wanted to wish you a Happy 4th. We stayed home but that is ok. To hot to enjoy much at the cabin.
How you feeling Andrea and KC, others. I am doing ok today.
Just hot, worked outside some. Sweat like mad. I used to not do that. lol
I hope you all are feeling better.
I haven't had any stress today thank the Lord.
Hugs and prayers, Polly


Hi Polly. Happy 4th to you too. My daughter is getting her hair done so I'm waiting for her to call and I'll go back and pick her up. It's been raining here in Chicago, so much for a beach day we had planned. Maybe there will be fireworks in Chicago tonight, maybe not, we are expecting more rain and rain for tomorrow too. Still haven't gotten my period yet, but it should be here eventually. And if it left for good, good for me! LOL

Andrea

snodove
07-05-2004, 05:14 PM
Hi Polly. Happy 4th to you too. My daughter is getting her hair done so I'm waiting for her to call and I'll go back and pick her up. It's been raining here in Chicago, so much for a beach day we had planned. Maybe there will be fireworks in Chicago tonight, maybe not, we are expecting more rain and rain for tomorrow too. Still haven't gotten my period yet, but it should be here eventually. And if it left for good, good for me! LOL

Andrea

Hi Andrea, Had a lazy day yesterday. It rained so no fireworks. We don't go downtown. To much mess. lol but we can see them a little here.
I hope your period just stays a way at this rate. lol I am sick of mine.
I could do without it that is for sure. Especially, when it goes on and on.
I am so thankful that my side hasn't hurt.... I dont' know what but that potassium citrate has done something to my IBS. I am sure after all the tests that it must have been it. My Gp doctor in mid 90's told me I had that after some tests so I figure it just acted like it used to. I guess. lol who knows but I am so glad to be almost pain free. It is great.
Now If I could get the anxious feelings to leave but I am trying to not focus on them and just do other things.
Take care and hope you got to have a good day. Thinking of you. Hugs, Polly

ainfante
07-06-2004, 11:04 AM
Hi Polly. I know about those anxious feelings, alright! I'm feeling today, matter of fact and still no period. I doubt it will stay away, it's just giving me a peri hard time, LOL! Might turn out to be a Xanax day. I'm so proud of myself that I don't have to take those pills everyday. It seems like I take them every four days, which I think is good, since I only take a pinch. Anyways, I'm glad to hear your stomach is better, that is great news! Potassium is a wonderful thing when you're body is in great need for them. How are your muscle contractions? I would imagine not having enough potassium in your body you maybe had twitches or muscle cramps?

Sorry about the rain and no fireworks, I had a chance to see them on Sunday. It didn't rain and it was good to see them. I stayed away from heavy crowds, so viewed them at the lake by where I live. Hope you have a wonderful day!

Andrea

rmc12
07-06-2004, 03:41 PM
Hi everyone ...hope this week is a good one for everyone.

thanks for the 4th of July wishes, Polly, glad to hear your stomach is feeling better. I had a side feeling in march and early April that came and went and I do not know why. It was very upsetting at the time and wreaked havoc on my intestinal situation too as I got anxiety ridden over it.


Andrea...I had a period last year not come till day 40 and then one on day 50 and so I know what you mean...then they reverted back to 24 days so go figure!! Last two months it has been every 31 days as I said in another post so do not know what to expect this month. Had a lot of symptoms last week which should have been mid cycle. This week and this past weekend was fine and happy about that!! I was hoping when it didn't come that one time last year until day 50 that it was gone for good...but no such luck!!

rmc

ainfante
07-06-2004, 05:36 PM
I know RMC. That's about how I feel. Just leave me anxious free when it disappears!

Andrea

snodove
07-06-2004, 07:52 PM
Hi Andrea, I have been in such a rush today. Ok they checked my blood today and they got my test results back already. Shock... They really were fast today. I guess different test are different times.
Anyway, Can you believe this my potassium is still low.
I am taking Potassium citrate as you know... 3 times a day. Now they have added 40 mg on top of that. Plus having me cut back my water pill.
They said it could be my water pill or it could be something else... geez..
I hope they get this straight soon. Lot of blood work.. I don't even want to think about the cost. I hope the ins. covers it Hugs ,Polly

ainfante
07-06-2004, 08:52 PM
Hi Andrea, I have been in such a rush today. Ok they checked my blood today and they got my test results back already. Shock... They really were fast today. I guess different test are different times.
Anyway, Can you believe this my potassium is still low.
I am taking Potassium citrate as you know... 3 times a day. Now they have added 40 mg on top of that. Plus having me cut back my water pill.
They said it could be my water pill or it could be something else... geez..
I hope they get this straight soon. Lot of blood work.. I don't even want to think about the cost. I hope the ins. covers it Hugs ,Polly

What I know from others I know who've been on water pills, you lose potassium. So by them increasing your potassium and decreasing the water pill, they are doing the right thing for you. Potassium is a very very important mineral in the body. Without potassium your heart will suffer greatly. You are low and they are controlling it and even though it is still low, it takes time to come up and by increasing your potassium, so hopefully it will come up. Don't worry and I will say a prayer for you, but you will be just fine, I feel it.

Love and hugs,

Andrea

snodove
07-07-2004, 03:47 PM
Hi Andrea,
Thank you for your prayers. I am sure it will be ok. Just that all this potassium is making pee all day. lol I don't take a water pill tomorrow and then go back on them til Tues. I hope this isn't being caused by anything else.
I am so tired of blood tests.. this will be 3. I know it is needed and important cuz I was reading up on when you body doesn't take care of potassium correctly and I have already had heart papitations. Which could be from peri too. How you doing.
Thank you again for your prayers. You are in mine too. Hugs, Polly

ainfante
07-07-2004, 04:19 PM
Hi Andrea,
Thank you for your prayers. I am sure it will be ok. Just that all this potassium is making pee all day. lol I don't take a water pill tomorrow and then go back on them til Tues. I hope this isn't being caused by anything else.
I am so tired of blood tests.. this will be 3. I know it is needed and important cuz I was reading up on when you body doesn't take care of potassium correctly and I have already had heart papitations. Which could be from peri too. How you doing.
Thank you again for your prayers. You are in mine too. Hugs, Polly


I was very irritable last week, and anxious this week, LOL And still no period! Do I need to say more? Skipped a June entirely.

Hugs,
Andrea

snodove
07-07-2004, 06:15 PM
I was very irritable last week, and anxious this week, LOL And still no period! Do I need to say more? Skipped a June entirely.

Hugs,
Andrea
Hi Andrea, You sound like me back in May or April.... I didn't have one and it was gone.. but then of course - it starts up and it was twice as bad. That is what I hate. If it does stop and start with me it seems to be worse when it does. Hope your's doesn't do that. You are in my prayers too. hugs, Polly

snodove
07-09-2004, 01:44 PM
Hi Andrea, Hope you are doing ok. I am about to crawl out of my skin. lol
I tell you. I hope they get my potassium straight soon. either that or it is peri.. or both. lol
How you doing. I hope good. I haven't heard how you were so was wondering.
I hope KC is ok.
Am praying for you too. Hugs, Polly

ainfante
07-09-2004, 04:49 PM
Hi Andrea, Hope you are doing ok. I am about to crawl out of my skin. lol
I tell you. I hope they get my potassium straight soon. either that or it is peri.. or both. lol
How you doing. I hope good. I haven't heard how you were so was wondering.
I hope KC is ok.
Am praying for you too. Hugs, Polly

Well, I'm still waiting for my period. Hate to sound like a broken record but you can't help it when you feel your pelvis area tugging, cramps, then the anxiety, then you wonder when it's going to come on down! LOL Otherwise, I would pay no attention to it. Yes, we are all feeling anxiety lately, aren't we? I doubt it's your potassium, probably just alot of anxiety from hormone change. Otherwise, LOL, I'm doing fine.

Love and hugs,

Andrea

snodove
07-09-2004, 10:23 PM
Hi Andrea, I ended up taking a part of xanax today. It helped. I thought I was going to lose it. My head was crawling ect ect.
Oh hate that feeling like before you period when you feel like your whole insides is pulling down. Mine does that more now than it used to. More days too. I feel for you.
Hope you have a good Saturday. I think we are going out some to visit which will be a nice change.
Hugs, Polly

ainfante
07-11-2004, 07:38 PM
Hi Andrea, I ended up taking a part of xanax today. It helped. I thought I was going to lose it. My head was crawling ect ect.
Oh hate that feeling like before you period when you feel like your whole insides is pulling down. Mine does that more now than it used to. More days too. I feel for you.
Hope you have a good Saturday. I think we are going out some to visit which will be a nice change.
Hugs, Polly


I hope you had a good time on Sat visiting. Still waiting for the period so I can stop the progesterone creme, but not here yet. I'm suppose to stop the creme now but I can't, cause it will make me spot and knock off my periods, not that they aren't already knocked around, LOL How's everything. Yes, the Xanax Syndrome. Thank God they made it, LOL YOu have the thing with the head and I have the electrical or jumpy muscle/nerve syndrome including left eye twitch, I hate it! LOL

Andrea

snodove
07-11-2004, 09:24 PM
Hi, yes, we had a good visit. Hadn't seen my stepdaugther in a Long long long time.
Sad to day but we didn't have her phone number and didn't know where she had moved to. It was nice but it rained half the day.
Yep, My head was crawling like crazy. I didn't today. You mentioned your eyes. Surely, peri doesn't effect that too cuz if it does I have had my eyes just ache. I went to the eye doctor and everything was fine but for a small lump he is going to take off Thursday or did I tell you that. It is on my eye lid. Underneath. Annoying as can be. He said he didn't think it was anything to worry about but he would take it off. I had an sty there last year sometime and I was hoping this thing would go away but didn't even after warm compresses. So will glad to get that removed. I sure hope you have your period. Let me see this is the 11th. wow... I wonder if you will miss it all together.Hope your mucles and all stop bothering you.
Hugs, Polly

ainfante
07-12-2004, 04:52 PM
Hi, yes, we had a good visit. Hadn't seen my stepdaugther in a Long long long time.
Sad to day but we didn't have her phone number and didn't know where she had moved to. It was nice but it rained half the day.
Yep, My head was crawling like crazy. I didn't today. You mentioned your eyes. Surely, peri doesn't effect that too cuz if it does I have had my eyes just ache. I went to the eye doctor and everything was fine but for a small lump he is going to take off Thursday or did I tell you that. It is on my eye lid. Underneath. Annoying as can be. He said he didn't think it was anything to worry about but he would take it off. I had an sty there last year sometime and I was hoping this thing would go away but didn't even after warm compresses. So will glad to get that removed. I sure hope you have your period. Let me see this is the 11th. wow... I wonder if you will miss it all together.Hope your mucles and all stop bothering you.
Hugs, Polly


Hi Polly, my friend. I had that eye thing too and had it removed. It will ache a little but you can take some tylenol for it. Yes, the twitching is coming from the anxiety perimenopause, I asked my gyne and she said that's what it was, perimenopause with anxiety. No, still haven't gotten my period yet, today is the 12th, skipped June all together, and the way I'm goiing,who knows about July. I haven't had it right since last December. They were coming every two weeks with spotting. Finally they went somewhat normal in April with alot of pain, then very spread out in May with pain and then nothing in June and very spread out again, LOL Oh well! I tis at that age!

Andrea

snodove
07-12-2004, 11:08 PM
Hello Andrea, Thanks for telling me about the eyelid thing. Did your friend have antibotics. Doctor said he would give me some drops afterwards.
I am not worried. Just it is a pain to do it. Hope you are feeling some better. I had that same problem you are having with the no periods I think I told you a few months back. Then boom.. I sure had one and it was long. Hugs, Polly

ainfante
07-13-2004, 02:53 PM
Hello Andrea, Thanks for telling me about the eyelid thing. Did your friend have antibotics. Doctor said he would give me some drops afterwards.
I am not worried. Just it is a pain to do it. Hope you are feeling some better. I had that same problem you are having with the no periods I think I told you a few months back. Then boom.. I sure had one and it was long. Hugs, Polly

Yes, I believe I took antibiotics afterwards and also I wore an eye patch I think for a day or two. It was irritable in the beginning and then faded after taking tylenol.

Hope all goes well,

Your friend and hugs,

Andrea

snodove
07-13-2004, 06:04 PM
Lol Andrea, I reread your post and realized that was you and not your friend. Oops. Thanks. I am sure it will go well. I think my period is going to start sometime. Maybe a week from now but that is guessing.
I had a dumb day today.. geez.. I had a phone call and I forgot I had turned the water on in the sink in the kitchen. Oh water was everywhere. We have indoor outdoor carpet in the kitchen. Not my idea but here when we bought the house. Geez, I hope I never do that that again. What a mess. lol might as well laugh about it. The good thing the carpet looks cleaner. lol Think I will blame it on Peri.. what do you think. ..
Hope you are doing ok today. Hugs, Polly

ainfante
07-13-2004, 07:20 PM
Polly, LOL You are crazy! Yes, blame it on peri and since you are waiting for your period, seems like that was a real period! LOL
I'm going to see the Urologist on Monday and want him to take this kidney stone out. I read that it could damage your kidney, so don't want it in there, plus have to run urine again to see if the blood is gone. Still waiting for period. I cried this morning, missing my brother alot and I'm also sensitive cause the period will be coming soon, can feel it and my head hurts. Well, if it doesn't come this week, Iwillbe working on another month not havingit. If it doesn't want to come anymore, fine with me, but leave me nuts and anxious free, LOL

Hugs,

Andrea

snodove
07-13-2004, 08:07 PM
Hi Andrea, The carpet is almost dry.. lol
I am sorry about your brother again. I will pray for you too. How big is your stone? I forget. I have had them blasted alot. Usually, they come down and get stuck in the uretha tube and they push it back up and then put a stent in and leave and then zap it with lithotripsy. If you have an Q's if I can I will help you. Have you ever had one broken up? If so then you know the routine. You will need to strain it to catch the pieces. Then they send them off to see what they are made of. I have 4 small ones in my left kidney I think I told you. They aren't big enough to do anything with. 2 and 3mm. Size of a pencil lead. They will do something if they are over 5mm. I had one 10mm last time.Bloodwork for me tomorrow. I wonder if my potassium is up. I doubt it. lol
Hope you get to feeling better. Will be praying. Hugs, Polly

ainfante
07-13-2004, 08:45 PM
Hi Andrea, The carpet is almost dry.. lol
I am sorry about your brother again. I will pray for you too. How big is your stone? I forget. I have had them blasted alot. Usually, they come down and get stuck in the uretha tube and they push it back up and then put a stent in and leave and then zap it with lithotripsy. If you have an Q's if I can I will help you. Have you ever had one broken up? If so then you know the routine. You will need to strain it to catch the pieces. Then they send them off to see what they are made of. I have 4 small ones in my left kidney I think I told you. They aren't big enough to do anything with. 2 and 3mm. Size of a pencil lead. They will do something if they are over 5mm. I had one 10mm last time.Bloodwork for me tomorrow. I wonder if my potassium is up. I doubt it. lol
Hope you get to feeling better. Will be praying. Hugs, Polly

Hi Polly, this is my first stone and I've had over 3 years. It has grown though, from 5mm to over 7mm. I will call you the kidney stone expert, LOL
I think I'll start a new post with your name in it, this one is getting very long.
Also, glad to hear your carpet is almost dry, LOL I've done silly things like that before my period, LOL

hugs, andrea

snodove
07-14-2004, 11:10 AM
Hi Andrea, started a new thread. Kidney stones. Hugs, Polly

heitara
08-12-2004, 03:04 PM
Hey Snowdove or anybody else who might be of help..:)

I'm new here. 50, perimenopausal, anxiety attacks and the recurrence of formation of the dreaded kidney stones. I read your old post, Snowdove, about potassium and stones. I'm desperate to find a way to get rid of them and stop their formation. Anybody who could help me, please, raise a hand!
I'll write more later, work is calling, sorry ladies:)

snodove
08-13-2004, 05:10 AM
Hi, Yep I have been taking potassium and a duretic now for about a year. Problem was my potasssium got to low but I think they finally got that straightened out. Do you know what kind of stones you have? That would help me know if what they are doing for me is possible help for you. Has your dr ever dx. your stones. Have you had a 24hr urine test ? to see what your urine consists of. That will help them know what is causing the imbalance in your system. Ex. I have way to much calcium then my kidneys don't return it to the blood stream and there I have a build up in my kidney and that causes stones. I think they call that a calcium leak. If you have time please fill me in more because what they do for one type of stones they wouldn't do for another type. I think there are about 5 types. Thank you, Polly

heitara
08-13-2004, 10:18 AM
Thanks for your fast reply:)

I've been suffering from kidney stones for three years now. All I can say it seems they've kicked in along with my Hashimoto Thyroiditis, or with my entering in a peri-menopausal state. I don't know, I'm still trying to figure out why my body has started producing stones, but hopless here...
They are calcium oxalates, and it seems as soon as I get rid of one, the next one is already forming. This, in spite of my diet. I'm taking potassium and magnesium supplements, vitamin B12, plus some omeopathic remedies (mild diuretics) and some teas made from an herb called "stonegrinder" which is supposed to break the stones. It seems to be working but this means that even if I don't have big stones anymore, I'm always in the middle of some cholic because the small stones that are a result of the "grinder" action, keep passing every week or so.
I am slightly discouraged and always looking for some remedy I haven't heard of..:)
Plus, my being perimenopausal doesn't help. My pms is a neverending nightmare, I'm having only 20 days between one period and the other and before they come I'm having cramps, sweatting, anxiety attacks, panic attacks, nausea, dizzyness...what else? lol
I'll look for your kidney stones thread. Brand new here and clumsy with computer. My being italian doesn't help me either with the language gap, but I hope you will bear with my english...
Thanks for any info you might be able to send my way
Hugs
Carla

susieblueyes
08-13-2004, 12:10 PM
Hi, Yep I have been taking potassium and a duretic now for about a year. Problem was my potasssium got to low but I think they finally got that straightened out. Do you know what kind of stones you have? That would help me know if what they are doing for me is possible help for you. Has your dr ever dx. your stones. Have you had a 24hr urine test ? to see what your urine consists of. That will help them know what is causing the imbalance in your system. Ex. I have way to much calcium then my kidneys don't return it to the blood stream and there I have a build up in my kidney and that causes stones. I think they call that a calcium leak. If you have time please fill me in more because what they do for one type of stones they wouldn't do for another type. I think there are about 5 types. Thank you, Polly
what is Agraphobia?

ainfante
08-13-2004, 12:41 PM
what is Agraphobia?

Not wanting to leave the house cause you feel panicky, etc.

Andrea

susieblueyes
08-13-2004, 02:28 PM
Not wanting to leave the house cause you feel panicky, etc.

Andrea
Thank you

vixation
08-22-2004, 07:42 PM
I am perimenopausal and just now have figured out that has been my main problem causing the anxiety I am trying to deal with..... I started out (before my GYN doc) with a psychiatrist who MISDIAGNOSED me with bipolar disorder...started me on that roller coaster of drugs...almost blew my mind, literally. The meds and side effects each one caused me were worse than any symptoms I had when I first walked into his office. A good reputable psychiatrist gave me second opinion....come to find out I have anxiety disorder and didn't realize it could be my "female problems" causing all this, too.....I have uterine fibroids (I'm perimenopausal too) that cause hemorrhaging every month....that alone is enough to make one crazy. But I've not gone "through the change yet", still am ovulating at 51 and WHOA...what a wild ride I've been on for the last 11 months....all of those pharmaceutical antidepressants out there....be careful what you go and put in your mouth....they all just about did me in with worse symptoms than ever with the side effects, including suicidal ideations. (and I'm a happy, usually upbeat person). I never associated the perimenopause with anxiety, or I would have started out going to my GYN and monitoring my fibroids closer.
I go Tuesday to have the lining of my uterus removed and probably the larger of the fibroids on the uterus......lovely.....has anyone ever heard of this like....miraculously making your emotions improve...the fibroids being removed, that is......
Oh....also I miraculously found a website for natural antidepressant with no side effects and I ordered this....gotta check out this site like I did.....I have nothing to lose. I've tried all the others and they just totally blew my mind.....everything from Paxil, Prozac, Wellbutrin, (suicidal thoughts with homicidal nightmares) to Zoloft, which caused me to sob after taking it 6 weeks. I found a site for NATURAL one.....[ removed ]......Just go in there and read it. It was amazing to me and I had to try it out...been three days now and I have not cried once!!!!


Peace.

Vixation.

ainfante
08-22-2004, 10:34 PM
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Vixation: Thanks for this. I know about the drugs, I have PTSD from a major car accident and my brother's traumatic death. I know about these Psych's pushing the drugs. I don't like drugs either and they want me to take more, even my gyne who originally gave me the Prozac. I only take 10 mg. and I have Xanax when I need it but hardly ever take it. I just try to understand perimenopause which brought on major anxiety for me and go from there. But I do take what I need and it has helped me alot. You need to start small and increase when needed. Also, be careful with herbs, natural things too, they are also medicine and you can do too much here to which would give you the same side effects or different ones but it is a drug too. The only thing between chemical and herbs is that chemical derives from herb, but the pharmaceutical companies leave way too much out and herbs are grown from plants and earth, but they are medicinals too and can have the same effect as chemical drugs. Just less medical side effects. So please watch yourself here. I know, studied, have doctor friends who are herbalogist's and they even know this too.

Andrea

Maryroi
10-28-2004, 12:20 PM
Andrea--Thank Goodness someone else out there has been there, done that with me! I just posted my "Help! Prolonged Bleeding, Provera, Panic" string in the hopes someone has also gone through the merry-go-round of the bizarre symptoms of perimenopause that I have been experiencing and can give me some feedback! Awesome to know I am not ALONE in this HELL, for it truly is HELL!

ainfante
10-28-2004, 02:58 PM
Andrea--Thank Goodness someone else out there has been there, done that with me! I just posted my "Help! Prolonged Bleeding, Provera, Panic" string in the hopes someone has also gone through the merry-go-round of the bizarre symptoms of perimenopause that I have been experiencing and can give me some feedback! Awesome to know I am not ALONE in this HELL, for it truly is HELL!

Hi, yes it's hell isn't, was just thinking of that! LOL The way I feel today and all, still no period now for over 2 months. And I'm quite shakey today.
Glad to know u and welcome aboard.

Andrea





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