If the CDC tells us to test at 6 months, do so. Most will say 3 months is enough, but it will never remove that doubt away unless the government agencies say so. Anyways, it won't hurt to get tested again.
I put myself at risk 4 months ago because of ego. I am a 3rd generation Chinese American guy born and raised in America. I always wanted to feel as American as the others. I always envied the black guys because they had the most attention from women. I and other Oriental men in my area had a tough time attracting women. When I finally had a chance to meet one fine Mexican gal 4 months ago, I JUST LET IT HAPPEN. I put myself at risk and later found out she had a complicated sexual past. What's done was done. Would I do it again? To be honest, if I am in the same situation, I don't know........
It is very hard to be an Oriental young man in American society. We have very limited dating pool and whatever comes along I have to take. When I was younger, I felt like I was denied love and dating because of my race. Now, when it comes, I just cannot control it.
I just want you all to not feel fear and take responsibility for what happened. You can't dwell on it. Don't let fear consume you.
When i am not having fun, I nowadays do kungfu and martial arts to control my inner anger and to find deep inner peace.
I like this quote by the late martial arts master, Bruce Lee:
"Like everyone else, you want to learn the way to win, but never to accept the way to lose. To accept defeat--to learn to die--is to be liberated from it. Once you accept, you are free to flow and harmonize. Fluidity is the way to an empty mind. So when tomorrow comes, you must free your ambitious mind and learn the art of dying."
jadaxyz
07-04-2004, 02:51 AM
well good luck to you hope everything works out for u. well my ex is korean/white. he was pretty cool but his mother who is full korean didnt care too much for cause i was non asian. ive always thought that not too many asian men date non asian women. well didnt mean to blabber later
zoron
07-04-2004, 05:36 AM
^There are more Asian men entering romances with non-Asian, white and Hispanic women these days, esp. in the more liberal states like California. But, many of them are like in my situation. They feel that they have hit the jackpot and must do anything and everything to please the woman. They want to show the world that they can be excellent lovers and masculine men too. At the deepest level, there is a lot of inferiority complex. And, much of this relates to the racism and emasculated media images towards Asian men in the past. I think in California, such views are starting to slowly change. Afterall, it wasnt too long ago when black men were not so desired as lovers either before the hip hop and NBA basketball revolution changed everything for them.
I just got to say to always play it safe no matter how much you feel the need to please and feel satisfied.
LivefortheDay
07-04-2004, 08:34 AM
In the UK, there is zero problem with cross-race relationships, if anything they may be more promoted / desired. It is interesting that in the US things sound far more conservative.
If you came to the UK, you would probably be inundated with women!
zoron
07-05-2004, 04:25 AM
People in America (at least in California) are often free to date whom they want. It's just that there are some preferences that is either biological or media/socially influenced. I think if all dating was equitable, there would be less STDs in this world.
Pigeons
07-05-2004, 11:25 PM
Unless you are a heroin user or have a severely compromised immune system, three months is sufficient to determine you are HIV-negative. There are two confirmed cases of people taking longer than three months, and both were occupational infections (needle-pricks) for which PEP was administered.
Please quit wasting HIV resources. You are HIV-negative.
zoron
07-06-2004, 02:57 AM
^You got it wrong. Those 2 cases took more than 6 months to seroconvert. There are some people who do seroconvert after 3 months. If not, there wouldn't still be this official 6 months wait period.
I wish I can follow what you said and take myself off the hook. But, I have to be 100% cautious and abide by what my doctors and the CDC says. Just 2 more months and this is done with.
I really envy those who have sex unprotected and not worry a lick for their lives and STD transmission.
Longwaysouth
07-06-2004, 04:00 AM
I agree with Pigeons! It's your decision to extend your hell by extending your own window period to 6 months, however if anyone else reads this and has tested negative at 3 months then you are negative, period! Move on!
It is extremely rare for a person to not produce antibodies to this virus by 12 weeks, let alone any longer. Nearly all will have some response by week 8. 12 weeks is conservative and is designed to catch the stragglers, and they in themselves are rare. It really should not be an issue for anyone here. Massachusetts actually has reduced its window period to 6 weeks.
And also Zoron, the CDC does not say you should test at 6 months. Read their recommendations carefully. It says that further testing at 6 months, COULD BE considered in certain circumstances. Your's or anyone else's that I have seen come through this forum is not one of those circumstances!
If you want to believe that you are the 1 in a million that takes longer than 3 months to test positive then fine, but stop casting your fears and doubts on others by creating a thread with the heading "4 months NEGATIVE, 2 to go". It is just crap! What's the next one gonna be when you test negative at 6 months? "6 months negative, only six to go to stop me being one of the rarest cases in history?"
Longwaysouth
avron
07-06-2004, 01:28 PM
Sometimes I wonder how the people who are HIV+ feel when they visit this board. :rolleyes:
happyfillmore
07-06-2004, 07:08 PM
we probably all are other wise we wouldnt be here i never cared or worried of hiv before this experience i had unprotected sex with chicks i didnt know from the nastiest parts of town but i didnt care.
Now this oral with a condom on from a escort why? i dont know becuase i felt symptoms maybe after the second day and have been in hell for three weeks and have often thoughts of suicide.
becuase finding purple mark on penis after she came down hard on condom once and having all these ars symptoms after 2 days which mysteriously kinda ended after 3 weeks in which they state these symptoms usually last 3 weeks i mean boom.
no more pains
hungers back
no more constepation or diheria
yet i am still worried but like i said no more symptoms aint it a bit strange especially when i had all these symptoms for no reason and every one says anxiety and calls me mental
i have had sex a dozen times had oral i cant count how many times i stopped having sex for 2 years becuase of work and being busy for relationships plus i gained some weight too :( my hiv test was negative after 2 weeks what good is that huh i ask you what good is it and all i hear is your fine etc but how the heck does any one know huh cuz they dont.
purple mark is gone as well weird huh well my doc said it wasnt a cut etc but u know i question her sometimes considering she has no hiv knowledge and made a stupid statement that it takes months to develop symptoms.
now all of this
Pigeons
07-07-2004, 12:05 AM
^You got it wrong. Those 2 cases took more than 6 months to seroconvert. There are some people who do seroconvert after 3 months. If not, there wouldn't still be this official 6 months wait period.
I wish I can follow what you said and take myself off the hook. But, I have to be 100% cautious and abide by what my doctors and the CDC says. Just 2 more months and this is done with.
"Official" according to whom? Certainly not the CDC. The CDC recommends testing past 13 weeks only in cases where the subject has a severly compromised immune system or is a herion user. If you are either, then maybe you should consider additional testing. If you are not, then please quit wasting tests. HIV tests are for people who have put themselves at risk—not for people who are following outdated HIV information.
It's really up to you whether you want to believe you might have HIV for another two months. The chances are nill, and anyone who suggests otherwise is following bogus info.