Well, I got my BFP..spent some time on the Preggy boards, had awesome beta #'s...thought i was having twins or better, as did my re....had a great u/s, had another u/s and saw the heartbeat THEN.... had a bad u/s where the baby wasn't as large as it should have been, was told could just be a small baby or the beggining of a m/c. Waited three weeks...no bleeding, no spotting, no problems....Next u/s.....baby died a week and a half earlier...next day D&C and now I'm back to infertility. WOW!! I have come full circle in such a short time......

So, Hello Again to those I chatted with already, and those i will get to know...

I have no Idea when i will begin treatment again...from what i hear every dr has a different opinion on when to TTC after a m/c. My next appointment is 8/19, when they will tell me what caused my m/c.

I hope I am not returning to Clomid, even though i got PG, 'cause the side effects were killing me!! I was going to change meds the next month...but I got the BFP....so we'll see....

Doreen

Doreen... I'm sorry to hear about your m/c. You sound like you are doing good - by staying positive and keeping your spirits up. :)
You mentioned that the side effects of clomid were killing you... what side effects did you have? I haven't started any drug treatments yet - we are still going through all the tests. Had the blood work, hsg, biopsy and on 09Aug I will have the laproscopy done. Then we will do the post-coital - and see what happens. So far, nothing has been found with me. It scares me that we haven't found anything... but also makes me feel a little better. I just am wanting to "fix" whatever is wrong so we can start a family. I've had a rough couple of weeks and I am hoping for some good news sometime SOON. I can't handle the bad upon bad all the time.
Anyways... I was only wondering about your side effects as drugs may be in my future for infertility.
THANKS for any information... good luck to you and lots of Sticky Baby dust your way *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Jen

Hey JL...It's been a very bumpy ride emotionally...but being alone is NOT the answer!!!!

If you ask my opinion, not finding a cause for infertility is much better.....maybe you guys just haven't timed it right.... For the longest my gyn told me there was nothing wrong...we went to the RE who said male morphology, but even that wasn't so bad that it would prevent PG..


Anyways I took Clomid for 2 cycles, was going off it the next cycle due to the s/e but I got the BFP instead. The side effects for me were:
1) Hot Flashes--all day and all night HOT FLASHES BABY!!!!!!!
2) mood swings- these were pretty severe for me
3) bloating
4) cramping
5) acne
6) weight gain

But JL- Keep in mind MOST women fair very well on Clomid and from what I understand most women suffer headaches from Clomid. Not me :) ALSO keep in mind it only took to cycles of the "weakest of the infertility drugs" to get the BFP!

HTH,
Doreen

Thank you Doreen for the info - I do understand that many women have good luck (no side effect) with Clomid. My sister had weight gain and cramping while on it. We were really thinking that last month (July) was THE month. I had positives on both OPK's. We bd'd almost every day. I had sore boobs for 2 weeks - and then BAM! AF shows up. AF was very heavy to start with and then it chilled out to where it is normally. I know that being alone is not the answer... I have found that SO many people on here are VERY heplful. I just love that I have a sounding board and helpful, understanding, great people to talk to on these boards!!!
Thank you for the info and good luck to you... Smiles
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Jen :)

I think everyone responds differently to Clomid. The first month I took 50mg. I had some slight cramping and bloating. The second month I took 100mg. I had only a little bit of bloating. Otherwise, I never would've known I was taking anything. So like I said, I really do think everyone is different.

Good Luck to both of you. I'm sorry to hear of all you are going through.

Doreen, i have been wondering where you have been! I am SO sorry to hear about your unfortunate loss. I will keep you in my prayers. Hope fully the doctor won't put you on clomid again if you don't like it. I am sure that there are some other things that the re can do for you instead.
I will continue to pray for you...

Hey doreen, I glad to see your doing a bit better and your going to try again! I had my doctors appointment today and he's doing a biopsy tomorrow morning I'm due to start my AF anyday it's been a 6 weeks since my miscarriage now, if I start tonight he can't due the biopsy until next month it has to be done a few days before AF is due to start. That will rule out another miscarriage if i'm postive to what ever it is there looking for i'm not sure if it's certain but I think it has to do with having an infection in the uterus, but i'm not sure he was naming so many things off today but i had all the other tests done now everything is normal. So now I have to wait a week to find out if everything is fine with the biopsy test. Once I start my AF I start the superfact 21 days later than i'm going to take clomid cause it's coming out of my pocket, my insurance is up to the limit until next march than I can use it but i'm not waiting that long to try again. I had clomid before and I only had bloating and headaches. So wish me luck!!! Do you have to go though all the tests? There not that bad it's just the waiting and me I hate to wait. Well gotta run I'll talk to you soon, i'll let you know how my doctors app. goes tomorrow.

Take care, glad to see your back on here and looking positive, your strong and like I said last week well be mothers hopefully by mother's day or shortly after, keep your spirits up:)

T.

Hi D & T

Thnak you both for your thoughts.

D- I don't know about the clomid..'cause it DID work ya know? if it works that fast again how could i go wrong???
I didn't want to upset anyone with my news, especially myself :(
How have you been feeling? I hope that you are doing well.

T- I know what you mean about waiting. It seems that everything is a wait with TTC and PG!!!!!

Hopefully all of your tests willbe positive...let me know

I haven't been back to the re yet. i'm not due to go back until the 19, where they will tell me the results of the fetal autopsy, and cause. I wasn't told about any tests that I may have to endure.

Good luck to you both and thanks for thinking of me, I am feeling a whole lot better these days!!!!

Doreen

Hi DSAK,
I'm also back. I conceived in May after 2nd IUI and had a m/c in july. DH also has poor morphology. We've been trying for 2 years. I'm waiting for my cycle to get back to normal, which should be soon? This is my first m/c and i can't imagine how women can go on after having 2 or more :(
In september i start clomid again and try another IUI.
This is so hard because there are so many women around me that are pregnant. It's even more hard to deal with when there are 2 that didn't even want to be get pregnant.
I'm thinking of you and your DH!
talk to you soon!
S.

S-

I'm sorry for your loss as well. It has to be the hardest thing that i have ever dealt with. One minute, I'm like "ok, I can deal with htis" and the next I'm so depressed i don't think i can even try again.... I just don't seem to know much of anythng anymore....
I don't know when the cycle will return to normal. I'm still bleeding, and my next re appoint is 8/19...I have no idea where to go from here.

Have you already returned to the RE? If so what was that visit like? I'm afraid because the last time I saw mine was at the d&c...next time he will tell me what cause the m/c..God! I hope i can deal with what he has to say...

Maybe we'll cycle together?

Anyways, I hope that you are doing well...my thoughts are also with you and DH....

sticky babydust~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

Hi D.

I didn't need to have the d&c. My RE told me to wait for my cycle to start again and then start the clomid in sept/oct.
The other day I was spotting. I 'm still waiting for AF to come in full force so I can start keeping track.
I was reading on the net that you'll ovulate before your next period starts again. My Dh and I haven't used any "protection" since I m/c. We didn't think that there was a need to b/c of the male factor. So when is your next cycle s'pose to start? Who knows we could cycle together. :)
ok talk to you later!
S.

Hey S-

DH and I haven't used protection either. I learned that if you get pg immediately after m/c your increase your chance of m/c again. Oh, well. We are also male factor so we didn't think it necessary either.

I really don't know what or when my cycle is...i haven't stopped bleeding yet and it's been three weeks (this comingfriday) since my D&C. When was your m/c?

Right now I'm trying to get rid of the weight I put on between the hormones and the pg. I'm using trim spa and I'm down 8lbs already! I'm starting to feel good about myselfagain. But I would give anything to be pg with a healthy baby!!! God forbid anything bad happens again...I wouldn't be able to deal!!!

keep in touch!!

D

Reading the posts of you ladies, I couldn't help but tear up a little. I've been through ttc before (2 years), but the way you women handle your loss from a miscarriage is absolutely amazing. You are truely amazing women, and as I read your messages and follow your progress, I will pray for you and send as much baby dust as I have your way! I am about to start ttc#2 (DD is 8 months old - curtosy of injectibles and HCG with timed intercourse) I go to the RE September 20th. Wierd though, for the first time in four years, my cycles are 30 days (PCOS). I am thinking dh and I need to start bd around that magical day 14 just in case I am popping out any eggs!

Anyway, this wasn't supposed to be about me, I just wanted you ladies to know that your strength amazes me. Best wishes - achew..........

J- Thank you for you belief that we are strong. I can't speak for S, but i feel anything but strong. I mean I go on because I have no choice, and going on also doesn't feel so good. Again, I don't know about S, but I have such a feeling of guilt, for what i have no idea but I feel guilty all the same.
I just can't wait for my body to heal so i can get started again. It feels like forever. The whole TTC and pregnancy thing has me so frustrated 'cause I feel like I'm ALWAYS waiting for something!!!
I read your post that AF started...glad to hear that it didn't upset you. you actually sound pretty postiive about it. I just wanted to wish you luck at your RE appointment, and I hope that you get that BFP before Jan!!

S- I hope all is well with you!!!! Does your depression seem to come and go as well? ugh, anything to feel somewhat normal again!!!


BABYDUST TO US~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
&
STICKY BABY VIBES TOO :bouncing: :bouncing: :bouncing:

D

Hi,
Well AF started today. My cycles were also 30-33 days. I found that I ovulate on day 17. I wonder if this month will be the same as before?
Jody- thank you for your thoughts. I really try to be strong because I need to be. Yes i do have depressed days and cry but I also have positive days. like today. I know that my cycle is back to normal and we can start again.
D- I felt guilty in the beginning..thinking what if I didn't go for that little hike? what if I didn't lift that box? What if i stayed in bed everyday? No matter what I did this m/c was going to happen. Something wasn't right with the baby and my body knew it. My m/c was in the middle of july..my DH and I were on a camping trip and it started..we had to come home early :(
I'm also trying to get off the weight I put on. What's trim spa? It sounds like it's working! Good for you! I'm glad that you're feeling a little better. I would also give anything to have beautiful healthy baby! I also hope to have that BFP by Jan! where are you from? I'm in canada. Well babydust to you!!
Babydust to you Jody as well!
talk to you soon!
S :)

Hey S-

AF! Yeah now you can start your cycle...ugh I feel like my body will never get back on track!! I'm wishing you all the luck this cycle!!!! From what i understand, afte m/c it may take yoy a couple of cycles for you to get back to normal cycles....

About feeling guilty, I don't feel guilty about anything I might have done when pg, 'cause I didn't do anything...not even sex so nope, that's not it. I feel guilty for moving on, loosing weight, riding rides, drinking I feel like I shouldn't like I should mourn more or something, I don't know.

Trim Spa is a diet pill, that Ana Nicloe Sm,ith used to loose all that weight. I haven't had any s/e and it's working great!!!!

I gotta run!
talk to you later!
D

Hey D.

Yes AF is here and she's nasty! But i'm glad she came so fast..i've heard that it takes some women a lot longer.
How are you doing?
I was wondering if using trimspa is safe when you're trying to get pregnant? But it does sound awesome! I'm going to look it up :)
You shouldn't feel guilty about moving on ...you need to. The more you dwell on this maybe the more harder it's going to be to be pregnant again. I admit that i'm going to be sooooo stressed if I'm pregnant again. I'd be sooo scared of m/c again. But, i'm going to try my best and not think too much about it.
When do you go to your RE?
OK let me know!
S :)

Hey S-

I go to my re tonight....I'm sooooo nervous I can';t take it! I posted about first appoint after m/c and everyone feels that it was just an appointment for them to judge your mental status...Aren't I under enough pressure here? Cripes! I don't want to go but I also can't wait for it just so I can get it over and done with!

How are you? Are you getting ready to O?? I want to wish you TONS of BABYDUST*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ & STICKY BABY VIBES!!!!!

BTW, I don't know if trim spa is safe while TTC, but since I'm not cycling yet I'm doing all I can to get that weight off!!!

Hope to hear from you soon!

D

HI D.

I should be o'ing any day now. I'm actually very sad right now. I just found out that 2 of my relatives are pregnant and they are within 1 week of eachother. My heart just hurts. I know that i shouldn't feel this way i should be happy for them which i am but my sadness is taking over right now. Just when i get over hearing someone is pregnant...someone else then is pregnant. oh well we just have to move on.
How did your appt. go? have you stopped bleeding?
lemme know!
S.

dsak, how did your appt. go? I'm sorry to hear about your lost..

Hi Ladies,

S- I know and understand how you feel. But...One day we too will be pg and have a healthy pg and baby!!! Theres a girl here at work who is pg, and she looks terrible... she looks really miserable and dressing inappropriately and such...she makes me angry but there is another girl who looks wonderful, dressed right and looks happy...now she makes me feel really good inside...I want to be her!!!!

I stopped bleeding on Monday!!! Yippee Now I'm waiting impatiently for AF to arrive. I can't believe how much time I am loosing now.

Hey C!!! Thank you.

OK, My appointment went really well. Apparently the reasons why i m/c are the best reasons that anyone can m/c. a normal human has 46 chromosomes, my lima bean had 69- which means that my egg or his sperm didn't split, but more likely the egg was fertalized by two sperm..... which means I am not at risk for a future m/c. RE was thrilled to give me the news and is encouraging me to TTC after my second period. I also might switch from clomid to injectables, as I had so many side effects from clomid.

Well ladies i have to get some work done...

Keep in touch!!!

D

I'm so happy for you... :bouncing: good luck next time..I have my fingers crossed :wave:

Hi D,

I'm glad that your appoinment went well. I hope AF shows up soon so you can start trying again! :)
I wish I could have found out why I mc. OH well i just hope that the next time nothing will happen.
talk to you soon!
S :)

D -
After dh and I have the post-coital test in October, the doc told me that I may be starting on drug therapy - one that I have heard about is Clomid - what side effects did you have? I'm just curious as I don't know that much about it - also, I already ovulate --- so do you know if I'd be put on Clomid - as I've heard it is to help a woman ovulate?
Thanks for the help.
smiles & hugs :angel:

Hey S-
What's going on with you? Are you on the 2WW yet? I just wish AF would show already!!! Time is steadily slipping away here!!

JL- You might want to ask other women about clomid as well...since I did have MANY side effects. I also ovulate on my own they put me on it in order to give DH's guys more targets!!!
the side effects i had were: mood swings, hot flashes, bloating, weight gain, cramps. But I hear that most women fair pretty well on clomid, most experiencing headaches..

I might move on to injectables as they are natural, and haveless chance of side effectas...they are of course more expensive and not covered. With Clomid you have a 10% chance for twins and with Injects a 20% chance.

HTH!!!

Talk to you girls soon!!
D

Hi D.

Yep I'm in the 2ww...i O'd on the 25th. I"m not getting my hopes up tho..but who knows maybe one of DH good guys made it! :bouncing:
If not we'll be going back for the IUI in oct.
I'm an Eductional Assistant..so school's started again and I can keep my mind elsewhere instead of what my body is doing at that exact time. The kids are wonderful and i'm glad to be back.
I really hope AF shows up soon for you. It's weird to actually want AF to show when we've wanted her to stay away!
Do you find that as time goes on it's getting a little easier to deal with other people that are pregnant? I sure am.
Well keep in touch girl!
S. :)

D- I am so happy to hear about your appointment! I will continue to pray for you!

Hey!

Ugh! Thre dreaded 2WW! I'll cross everything for you!!! Ya never know!!!

I'm glad to hear that you are glad to be back to work. I'd give anything to NOT be at work he-he

I thought AF arrived yesterday bright red for 2 trips to the ladies room, but she's gone now so I guess that it wasn't her...the wait continues..

Hi DH! How are you feeling? Thank you for your kind words and checking in on me :) It's really nice of you.

Gotta run!
D

HI D.
Well nasty AF showed up yesterday. I knew she would come and was trying hard not to get my hopes up. Which is hard when I would think every little symptom is a pregnancy one...which I should know by now that's what my body does anyways before AF shows.
How are you doing?
I'm not looking forward to all the family get togethers for the holidays--thanksgiving/birthdays/christmas because I will be seeing two of my pregnant family members who are close in age showing off their bellies and talking about the new little one coming. Arghhh i thought I was getting over this! I think i'm just a little upset b/c AF came :( I just had to vent.
Well let me know how things are going for you guys! When can you go back for the next IUI? We'll going back in oct.
k talk to you later.
S :)

Hey S-

I'm really sorry to hear that this wasn't your month :( And you can vent anytime you want!!! H*ll we all need too!!
I know what you mean about the holiday's coming... I REALLY want to be happy for other's PG, and I really am but I get really sad that it just isn't "my turn" yet. I've been holding on to the bad things about being PG to get me through...like I REALLY love the summer and I didn't enjoy mine until after the m/c because the heat made me feel sick...now I'm sooo tan and in the pool everyday!

I saw this email about infertility called open arms...it's like a small video...It has me in tears everytime I watch it. It talks about the journey of infertility, the waiting, the wondering why and how we need people to support us not say stupid things like well have you tried this...your time will come etc...it's really sooooo true.

Well, soon it will be 8 weeks since my m/c...and still no AF :( I'm REALLY getting down about this. The waiting is killing me...come on already it's been two darn months!#@! and all I have to show are some nasty infections (yeast, bacterial and PH) So much lost time. AND I have to have two cycles before my next IUI!!!! Which will probably put with having my IUI in Nov..which of course if it takes; would put me a 9 months in the middle of AUG! ugh! But I will without a doubt be pleased even if I'll be huge throughout the summer next year!

Well, now that I've written a book and did some of my own venting i feel a whole lot better :)

Doreen

Hi D.

How are things? AF yet? the email you were talking about sounds like it would make me cry!
I've also decided to lose weight..and have done so---8lbs so far!
I've put DH on vitamins. WE're going to try again this cycle and see if the vit. work. I'll be starting the OPK tests tomorrow. If nothing happens again this cycle i'll at least be happy when AF comes because we can go in for our IUI.
I really hope AF shows up soon for you. I hope you're doing ok!
talk to you later!
S :)

Hey S!!!

Yes, AF arrived... Here comes way TMI...but two days before I had the most embarrassing incident on the ferry. I stood up and GUSH!!!! All over me, the floor and the seat.... passed the biggest clot in the world (the size of a bagel) and two days later AF arrived...It's been heavy and very crampy!!

So nothing else has been going on...just waiting for her to end and i hope she comes on time next month so in Nov I can do the IUI's again. I've been having a hard time deciding whether or not to use clomid again or switch to the injectables... I'm afrain of hyperstimulation because I had 9 eggs with the Clomid but the side effects were the worst!~!!!

I hope that you get your BFP soon!! Maybethe vitamins will do the trick!!! I hope so!

Well, Keep in touch!!!

D

HEy D!

whoo hooo..i'm glad Af showed up! I have to admit i giggled when you mentioned the ferry and the bagel! :) That would be kinda embarrasing!!
this last cycle was crampy and clotty as well.....it must mean that our bodies are getting back to normal and cleaning everything out.
Well, keep in touch!
S :)