I have been having this embarassing problem for about four years but the past two yrs have been the worst...I feel no one on earth has the same problem, and I'm afraid there is no solution to it. I'm never in pain or anything but it's very uncomfortable. I typed it in on google and found someone on this site posting about it, so was really shocked>
http://www.healthboards.com/boards/archive/index.php/t-22144.html
The thing is, I'm only 19, and these spasms or murmuring noises are very disturbing, especially when I go out or am among people. I have a lot of gas, so my doctor told me that it could be "trapped" and told me to watch my diet and gave me med. to ease the bowels [but I am not constipated!], and he even gave me tranquilizers....so I'm thinking it could also be a psychological problem. I eat fibers, I stopped dairy products, I try to exercise, I'm trying to be stress free, and I even take activated carbon pills but they don't exactly work.
Does anyone have the same problem...or does anyone have any idea what I could do about it? It may seem silly and not serious of course, but it's really getting me down. I have refused to go out with my friends, to the cinema, to restaurants [it's even worse when I eat], and I hate sitting next to people....
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health_freak
08-09-2004, 08:28 AM
Member Paisley, I know you had the same problem about 2 yrs ago.....where are you?!!
djc
08-09-2004, 04:51 PM
Hey dude i got the same problem.
A lot of wierd rectal noises and a horrible odor as well.
Go see a doctor for sure and get a rectal exam, you might have internal hemmroids or something. As well for me i am seeing a specialist friday who will put the scope in (lower/upper GI i think its called?) and try to figure out what is going on.
quincy
08-09-2004, 05:04 PM
Hi,
I agree with djc. It might be IBS, or even ulcerative colitis in the very beginning stages.
A med such as Bentylol (dicyclomine) might help. It sounds as though it's the peristalsis....but the rectal area is working overtime...
Does it feel as though you have to pass gas, and it goes back in?
quincy
health_freak
08-10-2004, 08:12 AM
Hey dude i got the same problem.
A lot of wierd rectal noises and a horrible odor as well.
Go see a doctor for sure and get a rectal exam, you might have internal hemmroids or something. As well for me i am seeing a specialist friday who will put the scope in (lower/upper GI i think its called?) and try to figure out what is going on.
Thanks for the advice! I'm a little reluctant about the scope thing though...
I have seen a couple of doctors but they either say I should eat healthy, shed a few, exercise and stop stressing out. I noticed that when I'm regular, it's a little better, but it's like I'm always bloated. And these funny noises are awkward!!Especially in public!
health_freak
08-10-2004, 08:15 AM
Hi,
I agree with djc. It might be IBS, or even ulcerative colitis in the very beginning stages.
A med such as Bentylol (dicyclomine) might help. It sounds as though it's the peristalsis....but the rectal area is working overtime...
Does it feel as though you have to pass gas, and it goes back in?
quincy
thank you Quincy, I'll look into the medicine. Yes, it does seem like peristalsis, but why down there?!
And that is exactly right-it feels like I have lots of air but it's stuck...causing these constant grumbling noises. It is much better when I'm relaxed and have no worries, but I'm sure it's something physical as well?That's why I try not to eat anythin that might trigger....
djc
08-15-2004, 12:02 AM
health_freak: have you noticed when you eat nothing does the smell still persist and the grumblining as well? If so i think something else is going on
For me it really does not matter, I'm getting the colonscope to check everything out but have to wait until the first week of november which is ********. Good luck man
health_freak
08-15-2004, 09:18 AM
djc, there isn't really much smell, but I noticed that even if I starve myself, the grumbling is still there! I'm going to stop eating sweets, junk food, any food that causes gas, and see how it goes.
Good luck, and let us know how the colonscope goes!
Forgiven77
08-17-2004, 06:25 PM
HEALTH FREAK- I saw your post and had to tell you~the same thing happend to me! I started having like these gurgling noises and everybody thought it was my stomach and thats how my ibs started- then i had the dia. come and i restricted my foods as well. Mine came right when i was at my best-freshmen varsity starter in vball- well its been a year and mine has gotten worse and im starting to doubt if its ibs?? Well im not gonna tell you my whole story, but if you get diagnosed with ibs and you got questions- go to the ibs and post and ill answer.
*Good Luck and God Bless- Kira
health_freak
08-18-2004, 11:21 AM
Forgiven77: thanks for the message! IBS.... that's what almost all my doctors say it is, but I really don't think so....I'll post u a msge in the IBS forum, in case u don't read this.
By the way, has anyone heard of Sulphur tablets, that help these sort of "gas, grumbling etc" problems??
health_freak
09-03-2004, 02:25 PM
Summer is over, and things are back to normal....back to stressful life. And I realize that I am going to have to live with this problem...just deal with it, and not give a darn about what people think.
Just wish others would stop thinking I'm weird or get grossed out. But really is it worth it to suffer just because of ignorant people? Would you laugh if you heard grumbling noises from a person...I mean, from down there? It's not a big deal right? Everyone has gas problems, but mine just seems to be constantly there and constantly gurgling.
MrOwl
09-03-2004, 02:37 PM
Do not let the colonoscopy trouble you. I just had it. The preparation for it is a little distressing but very livable. The proceedure itself is nothing. You get pain meds and are sedated, so you do not feel a thing. All I had was a little gas from the air they inject in there to help them see things better. All of that was gone in about an hour.
the3rdkey
09-07-2004, 05:35 PM
I am having the same problem and it is destroying me. Nothing is helping, it is like a bubble is in my stomach.
I have the same problem and it is ruining my life too. I work in a quiet area and all you can hear is my stomach. I just feel like quitting my job so that no one can hear the embarrassing noises, including myself. I have been taking Beano and Phazyme constantly. It helps sometimes, but not today. I kept going to the bathroom to try and poop, that usually helps me. After three or four times to the bathroom it finally quit. I have no other problems, except for the grumbling from my rectum and stomach.
By the way, I heard that yogurts helps. I tried it once and it made my stomach hurt, but I heard no grumbling noises.
health_freak
09-23-2004, 01:21 PM
How old are you MzTami? The fact that I am so depressed now, is worrying me about how my future will be...and that is just making my problem worse. I noticed that it is much worse if there are people around or next to me, and it is driving me out of my mind. I don't know what to do anymore because it seems as if I've tried everything. I also feel so alone, like no one can understand how this is affecting me. It sounds like a silly problem, barely a health problem, but I'm really starting to get sick over it. How long can it go on? What if it's just always gonna be like this, or worse?
I avoid going out where I have to sit with friends, I avoid eating out (that is a nightmare for me) and if I really have to go, I am so figgitty, worried, and upset and have to try to "keep the air in", and yet it still comes out.
I suppose this would be acceptable if a guy had it, but I'm a girl! And I'm 19.
I have even tried to skip classes because I can't control it so much. Yesterday I tried to hold it in, but I couldn't and I noticed how some people were giggling behind me, and it's the same everywhere I go. People start figitting or coughing, and I feel so embarassed. It makes me feel so insecure, unhappy, and this was just when I'm supposed to be getting confident, instead I have put up with people who probably are making fun of me, and gossiping about me or must think I'm disgusting. And the worst thing is if they are feeling sorry for me.
MzTami
09-24-2004, 09:45 PM
HealthFreak,
I know exactly how you feel. I am 34 and have suffered from it since I went back to college about 7 years ago. I feel the same way,I work in a very quiet area and you hear nothing but my stomach grumbling, yes it is embarrassing. My self-esteem is this low because of the problem. Somedays, I feel like walking out and quitting my job that is how much it embarrasses me.
When I was in school, I would miss a lot of class or try not to sit next to people because I knew that they would hear my grumbles, popps, and evrything uncontrollably coming from my stomach.
I have been trying what Harry told me and so far it has worked about 80%.I have only been on it for about a week. I do take the enteric coated probiotic along with the calcium magnesium, zinc, and vitamin D.
Try it along with the live cultured yogurt.
Good Luck and keep in touch
flurry
09-26-2004, 01:11 AM
Dear HealthFreak,
I too am in the same situation. I felt like you took the words right out of my mouth! I'm 18 and just began college, but my problem began a couple of years ago. Believe me, I know the humiliation, and I've endured such ridicule that my life has took a 180 degree change. Life is more difficult now, but like you said in an earlier post, you're going to have to deal with it and not give a darn about what people think.
I've took stool tests, been scoped from end up to other end down, got my veins sucked dry from blood tests... and nothing showed up, which in a way is bad because I don't know what the heck is wrong with me... although I do think that stress is the number one enemy here. Every time I am stressed, for example, my head is flooded with pessimistic thoughts like "are they making fun of me?", "are they laughing at me?", and so forth... it worsens the gas problem or whatever is ailing my stomach. In fact, when I begin to worry, it seems to cause my problem. And its not simply stomach grumbling... its involuntarily releasing gas... and yup, how mortifying.
Now I'm not taking any medicine, I'm eating very well (fresh fruits, veggies, meats -try to avoid beef-, don't touch carbonated drinks, canned foods, or microwaved stuff and try to stick strictly to freshly-cooked meals)... and exercising. I feel great after swimming and running, even if its only for a few minutes. If I keep myself healthy and natural in every possible way I can, then going out with friends is possible, paying attention to the teacher in class instead of fretting about what others are thinking of me is possible, and leading an active life is possible. God allows unpleasant circumstances because He doesn't give us more than what we cannot handle. I wish you the best and hope that you'll get to the bottom of this...
swt
09-26-2004, 02:54 AM
Any body ever have to take the train in the mourning to go to school or work? Well let me tell you it’s the worst feeling in the world to be on the train in New York City and have people around you saying that you smell. It so embarrassing to hear girls say he's cute but he smells really bad. The grumbling sound in my stomach usually gets worst while I am in a car or on the train. I am so confused I play sports a least 3 times a week, I eat healthy foods and I just can't seem to totally get rid of this problem. The calcium magnesium pills stops the grumbling for about a few hours, but the grumbling and gas still won’t completely go away.
djc
09-26-2004, 03:00 AM
I got the stomache grumblining to go away from probiotics.
However the rectum noises/ popping sounds and releasing gas "magically" is still going on. It absolutely makes no sense when without eating for a day it still happens. I think stress causes a impact but there HAS to be something physical causing this...
Glad to know other people are having the same problems, lets hope one of us cracks the puzzle
NO_FEAR
09-29-2004, 01:07 AM
DJC what probitics took away your stomach growling plz be specific in name brand and how long did it take for the grumbling to go away thanks alot if you have any other suggetions for stomach rumbling plz let me know, that is my main problem my stomach rumbles all day everyday thanks alot DJC hope to hear from you soon.
swt
09-29-2004, 12:09 PM
Has anyone tried mega acidophilus by GNC? If so Is it better then Primal Defense.
djc
09-30-2004, 10:11 PM
oh i took primal 8 i think its called?
health_freak
10-02-2004, 06:28 AM
I can't believe there are many people who seem to know what I'm going through.
Thank you MzTami for the advice, but like I said, I have tried everything and am about to lose hope, completely. I pretend it doesn't bother me in reality. I can't continue not going to class, so when I go, I try to sit at the back or at next to the wall. When there are no seats except for in the middle of the class, I start panicking and in fact, that is when the popping etc gets even worse. On the subway or bus, I avoid sitting, because I would hate to disgust anyone. Maybe I am paranoid, neurotic, obsessed, but I can't help it.
Flurry, I also started having this problem a couple of years ago. How are you dealing with it now? I also have those kind of thoughts racing through my head, and I'm a major worrier. What's bothering me the most is that I'm worried WHAT OTHERS WILL THINK. Or that they will feel awkward, or embarassed, or think I'm gross or weird. I guess we just have to accept things as they are. Everything happens for a reason, right? Eating healthily and exercising do help, temporarily. But not only am I exhausted at the end of the day, I also need to eat chocolate, sweets, food that takes my mind off, and helps me carry on.
Thank you both for sharing and good luck :)
SWT, my problem also seems to get worse in trains, or cars, or anywhere I have to sit down, actually. Try not to let it get to you, you should be happy that you're cute!
DJC, there isn't one day I don't hope that there's a medecine out there that will stop the gassy, popping noise. THere just has to be.
NYCluvr
10-03-2004, 05:05 PM
I have the exact same problem and I dont know what to do. I hate to say it but I think it is a psychological problem because it worsens when I think about it or when I get more nervous about it. I really hope there's a cure though because I feel like my social life is shot... n Im young!
Does it get worse when you get nervous too???
NYCluvr
10-03-2004, 05:08 PM
OH.... n any1 can write me back if you have an anwser
swt
10-03-2004, 07:10 PM
The grumbling multiplies when I know I have to go some place where a lot of people are going to be.
health_freak
10-04-2004, 10:56 AM
I have the exact same problem and I dont know what to do. I hate to say it but I think it is a psychological problem because it worsens when I think about it or when I get more nervous about it. I really hope there's a cure though because I feel like my social life is shot... n Im young!
Does it get worse when you get nervous too???
I have become paranoid,depressed and antisocial at times because of this. I think it is partly psychological (because when I'm at home in my bed, in front of tv, everything is fine. Or maybe it's still going on but since I'm so relaxed and not feeling self conscious, I don't even notice), but there has to be a physical reason, as why else isn't there a cure for it??
When I'm nervous (which is like Always), I get extremely bloated, and the grumbling, popping etc is even worse. I'm over conscious about what others think of me, a major worrier and I think I keep any sort of stress bottled up inside me. However, I do not have like severe problems as in psychological. But this problem may lead to that! See, I pretend to take it really easily, but actually I'm so sick and tired of it. Tired of worrying whether I have to sit by someone, who I have to stand next to, have to look around me, trying to hold it (which for some reason makes it even worse), having to be embarassed. Yes, I might just paranoid, but I'm not. It's been so long that it's always on my mind now. How can I forget about it, if it's still there?
Reality, is that how can I forget about it if I always have to be around people? I don't want to be disgusting, or weird, or people to think I have "farting problems"-especially since I'm a girl! I have already not been so confident about myself in the past, and when I was starting to get a life, this had to happen. I try to say, it could be worse. Who cares about being embarassed right?It's not the end of the world.
Yet whenever I try to pretend "It's ok. Don't worry about others. It's your imagination", I KNOW the people around me are squirming, or looking at me.
Today, in class, two boys started to have laughing fit and one boy even pretended he had to go to the bathroom because he got red from laughing. The more they did that, the more I fidgeted. And then they started imitating me, and made popping noises, thinking I didn't notice. I always do that. I pretend everything is fine, and my life is not the least bit affected by creeps like them. I even suddenly become over confident and laugh and talk loudly to the all the students, even the teacher. I laugh so loud, trying to hide it. Then I'm home, and break down. Yeah, I bet none of you go through this, like right now.
sunshineahead
10-06-2004, 05:28 PM
Hey everyone,
I've had some similar problems here and there, nothing major but I guess I just had to stop and say something here. There are much WORSE things out there. Cancer. AIDS. Wheelchairs. Blindness. In the scheme of things, this is nothing, and when you find a significant other, they won't care if they really love you. Stressing out about it will only make it worse and make you sick. Be thankful for what you do have...all 4 limbs, a brain, and the world in front of you! :)
NYCluvr
10-06-2004, 08:07 PM
health_freak
Wow! I actually feel like I can relate to someone 100% for the first time. I have gone through situations similar to yours. However, my stomach picks and chooses the time of the day it wants to start to act up, but it usually does this at quiet moments or on dates or something. Its really hard to deal with. I used to cry over it sometimes and I know I shouldnt really care about others opinions, but I just dont want the ENTIRE world to know there is something wrong with me. I mean its really evident considering you can hear it loud and clear. But anyways my main fear is to live the rest of my life worrying about my stomach and when its going to make noises (especially being a girl). Its so hard to deal with... I just hope there's a way to fix this. At least I know im not alone. :D When did your problem begin????
health_freak
10-07-2004, 02:22 PM
Sunshinehead, what you said was really inspirational. I know there are serious problems out there that are not half as bad as what I am going through, and yes it is true: the more I worry, the more I get sick and hurt myself. It's just so hard to wake up and face the day. I've always not been an optimistic person but now it's almost as if I find there is nothing to look forward too. Today, the only friend I thought I had made was actually telling her brother about me. And I nearly died when the grumbling, farting noises, almost vibrating was so bad that the people sitting next to me were laughing and even thought I was passing gas!But I'm not, it's just that there's a lot of air that is grumbling right down there and it's sort of stuck. I can't sit anywhere next to anyone, because they're always either annoyed, disgusted or humiliated by me. I didn't think you could hear it from sitting down next to eachother, but everyone who sits by me is always surprised by the gas. Even my teacher looked at me today because he-I assume-"felt" the grumbling down there. I'm trying to get on with my life by pretending that my life is better, I distract myself with movies, magazines, music, dreams, etc, trying to make something worth being, but I'm just so upset, distressed, and wish I could end this problem.
Also, that's the whole point: few people are understanding or accepting, or lets say "human" enough to realize it's not a big deal, or to even not notice my problem. So that's tough. I'm starting to dislike people because of this. But I don't want to. ALL I want is a normal life. I want to be able to go out with friends, EAT with friends, go to the movies, simply SIT with friends. Guys have sat next to me and asked me to go out, but I find excuses and run away, before I get humiliated or hurt. Because that's what's in been like, the entire time. They made of fun me, and completely ran away.
NYCluvr, this started (as in was aggravated)about two yrs ago (at about 16/17). Almost seems as if, the more stress there is, the more the situation gets worse. But now even if I don't stress out, it's still there. I think the problem has actually become part of me, and will always be there.
My noises are constant, sometimes I don't even get a break. That's what I mean by "I an tired"....
how old are you?How are you coping with it now?
NYCluvr
10-08-2004, 08:50 AM
Yea I also agree with you sunshine head...that was very inspirational. Its just that this has been an issue with me for a while and I came here to find anwsers. Everyone has internal issues they deal with and for me this is one of them. And dont get me wrong I thank God almost everyday for everything I have and even things I dont have so I just dont want to come across as selfish or carefree for the less fortunate.
Health_Freak: I am 16 right now and this problem has been affected me since I was about 12 or so. In school I try to stay away from being seated in the middle of the class. I deal with it by basically avoiding situations where I have to be in quiet areas for a long period of time. Surprisingly, many people have not had too many negative reactions to it. When I was younger they did but as I grew older, it lessened more and more. Dont get me wrong, I still get those wierd looks sometimes but I jus pretend to ignore it. My number one fear is to have this problem for the rest of my life. Sometimes I just wonder what life would be like for me if I didnt have to worry about my stomach... All the things I could do instead of back out of, all the other thoughts that could run through my head other than, "hopefully my stomach wont be too loud". I really miss those days and that may sound too dramatic but it has that much of an impact on me. One day someone will have an anwser and we can both live normal lives again :) . How do you deal with your problem???
health_freak
10-08-2004, 02:48 PM
NYClurv, you don't know how good it feels to know someone else is going through a similar thing. Even though of course, the grumbling and noises in your case is in your stomach, and mine...well, it's right down there. I'm even embarassed to WRITE it, so I don't know how I'm dealing with it. And worse, how long I can continue dealing with it. I know this is going to sound strange, or disgusting and maybe funny, but the grumbling/popping/gas/farting seems to vibrate or something because, people sitting next tome, across me or even at the opposite side of the room "feel it" or "hear it". I don't understand how that's possible, but it makes sense, because it's practically like passing gas. And the continuous noise it makes....
I also try to avoid going to places where I will have to sit somewhere quiet for long, or even where people will be next to me or behind me, but I can't escape from everything. Reality is that I have classes to go to everyday and sometimes I am the only person sitting by myself at the opposite side of the room. Yet STILL, the kids hear the noise, and make of me. Just yesterday, a girl and a boy starting saying "something smells!" out loud, casually, but I know who they were referring to. Yet I don't smell, because like I said, the gas is stuck, I'm not like farting! Also, I have to go to meetings, and it's almost a torture to sit there, for what seems like AGES. Sometimes I have to sit at lecture for over two hours. I feel like disappearing when that happens. I do pretend as if it's not affecting, or like it's not even happening, even though everyone glares at me or mumble and joke behind my back. Also, I have to go to exams. That's almost even worse because the silence is unbearable, and the popping sounds coming from my chair is so obvious. Everyone knows by now. That's the farting girl, I can't even imagine.
Try not to worry about the future. I worry about future events, actually how to avoid future events. But I wouldn't worry about the future future, as in much later on, and if it becomes worse or if I will have it forever. We shouldn't worry about that-YET- because you never know, there may be a solution. Or maybe we will "grow up", and realize that it's not a big deal, and forget about it. And we will find people who truly care for us as people, with feelings. I feel alone, and scared sometimes. Do you know what I mean?
I do have friends, but being teased or avoided by so many other people makes me sort of forget about my friends. I think my friends obviously have noticed, but they just ignore it. They're not cruel people. So I should be happy right. I do have friends,family so what else can I want?
Like I wrote, I deal with it by pretending everythings all right. And by praying that the moment will be over, and anticipate the moment I am home, in my bed, or watching tv, or whatever, but where I don't have to be around people. It's the toughest thing to be mocked by people. It can really affect you. So I distract myself, and try to move on. It's just that I alwasy seem to find myself in the same position as always.
NYCluvr
10-08-2004, 06:03 PM
NYClurv, you don't know how good it feels to know someone else is going through a similar thing. Even though of course, the grumbling and noises in your case is in your stomach, and mine...well, it's right down there. I'm even embarassed to WRITE it, so I don't know how I'm dealing with it. And worse, how long I can continue dealing with it. I know this is going to sound strange, or disgusting and maybe funny, but the grumbling/popping/gas/farting seems to vibrate or something because, people sitting next tome, across me or even at the opposite side of the room "feel it" or "hear it". I don't understand how that's possible, but it makes sense, because it's practically like passing gas. And the continuous noise it makes....
Hey Health_Freak, i am glad too to finally find out someone is going though similar situations too. Sometimes, when I get it really bad, I feel it down there too, as funny as that sounds, and it is like a vibrating thing. I dont understand it. Reading what other people had to say on their health boards though did make me think alot. I know half of the people that have something smart to say or laugh, ill never see again n they are the ones least important to me. Its hard trying to ignore them, but getting the best out of everyday is the most important thing so im going to try to not let that bother me. Like you said, the best thing about life is having friends, family, and even associates that care about you and are mature enough to look past it. If they cant see past something like your stomach or whatever it is making noises, then i mean, theyre not worth your time. Thats who you are n in a different way, that is what makes you unique. I was so glad when I found this site jus a week ago b/c i thought id quickly find a way to cure this but i jus realize that there are worse things to be worrying about so I will try to be as mature about it as possible and go on with my life. I am jus so happy I found someone going though the same thing and I am not the only one. That means that there r more people out there, they just havent found this site ;) , but we r not alone. So keep your head high.... Ignore all of them because in 5 years, you wont even b thinking about them. I know this is a personal question, but do you have a significant other, and if so how do they react to your situation??? Jus out of curiosity...
health_freak
10-09-2004, 08:26 AM
Hi NYClurv, I really don't understand what those vibrating, gurgling noises are. I mean, WHAT is causing it, WHY do so few have this?That's why I used to think it was a psychological thing. It partially is, but I constantly have it. I am worse off than you in other words, so you really shouldn't worry :) .
I know what you mean, when I found this site (I actually found another person: Paisley, who had the same problem years ago), so I was really excited. I also have noticed how many dreadful things there are, and that mine is nothing in comparison. Yet, when one has something, it's a big deal to that person. I just wish others would "put themselves in my shoes" and let me get on with my life!
What you said is so true, I won't even see these people in five years. The tough thing is that I have to face them NOW and for the next four. It's so hard to face the day. The sad thing, is I feel I could be a better person without it. I feel I would be more "myself" with people, meet more people, do more things, and experience stuff to the fullest. I do put my head high, but the reality is that everyone is laughing at me and being revolted. But that's not the person I am.
Don't worry, you're not being personal. I do not have a significant other. Like I wrote in my mother posts, I rUn away from most people, without even giving them a chance. I have been hurt in the past (because of this problem) so I don't think any guy would understand me. None so far have been decent enough. They seem to be even more "horriffied" than girls, which doesn't make sense. I do have guy friends who don't seem to be bothered by my problem. They're actually really kind about it. But listen, I believe there is someone who is understanding enough (and mature enough!) to accept me and you for we are. How have your friends/boyfriend reacted to your problem>?
bleh
10-10-2004, 01:10 AM
hey guys,
i am sooooo glad to hear other people are dealing with this. my stomach and intestines are always grumbling, growling and making embarassing noises. it's like my stomach is out of control! i have been searching for a way to stop it for a few weeks now.....
i have found it helps to avoid sodas, chewing gum, drinking from water fountains, and anything that could allow extra air into my system. but even this doesn't completely solve the problem. does anyone else have any certain tips or ways to help silence this?
also, does anyone else have other stomach problems?
i have stomach ulcers, so i don't know if that could contribute to this or not..
maybe if we keep sharing tips and treatments to stop this, we can get through it. stay positive!
health_freak
10-10-2004, 07:06 AM
hey guys,
i am sooooo glad to hear other people are dealing with this. my stomach and intestines are always grumbling, growling and making embarassing noises. it's like my stomach is out of control! i have been searching for a way to stop it for a few weeks now.....
i have found it helps to avoid sodas, chewing gum, drinking from water fountains, and anything that could allow extra air into my system. but even this doesn't completely solve the problem. does anyone else have any certain tips or ways to help silence this?
also, does anyone else have other stomach problems?
i have stomach ulcers, so i don't know if that could contribute to this or not..
maybe if we keep sharing tips and treatments to stop this, we can get through it. stay positive!
NYClurv and Bleh, are these grumbling noises coming from the upper part of your stomach or the lower part? And is it just the type of growling you get when you're hungry? Or is it more like your stomach is digesting something? Because when I went to a stomach specialist, he felt my stomach and was so shocked because he could feel that my entire stomach is full of gas, and is very tense yet swollen ,because I'm very bloated...and very nervous. He told me to eat healthily, exercise, and gave me something to aid digestion-which didn't help obviously. He even said if you're desperate and it doesn''t become better, take these tranquilizers (not strong, but still tranquilizers!). Of course I took them, but they had absolutely no effect, except for the fact that I felt a little drowsy.
My problem is really different from you two. Though I do understand how embarassing it can be. Then again, I have heard stomachs growl even worse than mine (not as much, but surprisingly I heard) which makes me think it's a natural thing. If you eat a little something, doesn't it get better?
Yes, I also try to avoid eating spicy, fatty, complicated foods (in order words, everything tasty). I also can't seem to eat white bread, pasta, yogurt, fruit....and especially sugary stuff. I can forget about having gassy sodas. I have enough air in my stomach so....
I eat brown bread (or pasta,crackers etc) and in small bites, avoiding any absorption of air. So I usally eat have sandwiches with a little salad and a little tomato (which still seems to be too acidic to my stomach....but I have to be able to eat SOMEthing right?!).
Good Luck, and thanks for sharing
bleh
10-10-2004, 06:00 PM
it's mainly in my lower stomach....it's like you can hear my whole digestive process really loud. it doesn't matter if i eat alot, don't eat, or whatever... it just always growls and makes weird noises. it seems like maybe there is alot of gas backed up or something. i dunno, it really sux though. i have normal bowel movements though. is anyone else experiencing this?
health_freak
10-11-2004, 11:58 AM
Sherillc, thank you so much for your message. You sound very informed =). I did in fact go to a homeopath doctor and she did this allergy test on me (poking my thumb with a pointy object, etc), and said in fact that I am intollerant to tomotoes, potatoes, eggplants, dairy products, pears, apples, bananas, just about everything! She also recommended that I do exercise, and take these lactobaicil (sp?) capsules. Things seemed to get a little better, but then it was the same story once again. I mean, am I supposed to starve myself? That's what I seem to be doing on school days. I don't eat ANYthing from morning to evening, unless my stomach starts grumbling furiously, I eat some wholewheat crakcers. I'm even terrified of eating the tiniest portion of anything. Because my stomach is bad enough if I don't eat, and believe I have eaten in the past, and the grumbling, digesting, parping, gas gets so bad, I feel hopeless. Thing is once I get home, I eat chocolate bars, ice cream tubs, any junk I can stuff myselfwith from hunger, and also to distract myself. Food is like the only thing that makes me feel satisfied and happy. You know what I mean....it's gives me a purpose. Maybe this might be aggravating the situation. So, I\ll should try eating less and healthier for a longer period and see what happens. But there's no way I can stop stressing about and being reluctant to face people, who constantly remind me of my problem.
thanks again for your advice!
swt
10-12-2004, 09:33 AM
Thanks for the info Sherillc. I will have to give this a try. I always wondered why my stomach would go crazy every time I eat oatmeal.
health_freak
10-12-2004, 02:20 PM
Hey, my stomach also doesn't seem to tolerate oatmeal. It starts making furious noises, as if it's digesting or something, and my stomach bloats up. I thought oats were healthy! Rice also has a similar effect on me.
swt
10-12-2004, 03:53 PM
If i eat a cup of oatmeal in the mourning, my stomach will bloat and make strange noises the whole day, followed by relentless gas the next mourning. It's like a war going on in my stomach. Hot-dogs gravy tuna and ice cream seems to have the same effect but not as bad as oatmeal.
NYCluvr
10-13-2004, 12:33 AM
Hey guys,....thanx Sherillc for the advise. Its great to see that other people r suffering from the same problem, well not great, but you all know what I mean. Its more of a support system. But, my problem is mainly in my lower area but it tends to travel throughout my stomach and affects different parts of my stomach according to the day. I really think im going to take Sherillc's proposal into consideration. My problem is mild when I wake up but after I eat it gets worse. Its like the food is the fuel to the problem, but Im not lactose intolerant... so I have to figure out what it is.
Its easier to deal with things though taking sunshinehead's words into consideration. The wierd thing is, right after she wrote reminding us that other people deal with more serious issues everyday, I saw a girl in my school in a wheel chair and she was bald. Then after talking to teachers I found out that she was a cancer patient and she was going to die before her high school graduation... but she was still at school taking classes. People made fun of her while she was being rolled down the hall and I was thinking to myself... I am so blessed. I felt down, but at the same time I came to realize that although people make fun of her she still makes it a point to go to school even if its pointless. But it means something to her. Well anyways what I trying to say is after watching her I came to realize that people may talk about you or laugh at your problem but its not your fault. If someone with cancer can hold their head up high, so can we... Although there is not an actual cure for our problems yet, we can still hold our heads up high n continue living life cuz we only have 1.
health_freak
10-13-2004, 03:13 PM
That's really something. Thanks for sharing NYClurv. Sometimes people who are worse off seem to have more will power than people who are "suffering" from something absolutely insignificant. Why is it that when you have something, youc an't get your mind off it?!
I guess it's just something I have to accept, and live with.
I felt like awful when this guy sat next to me in class the other day. Normally I sit on the opposite end of the class, where no one is bound to sit next to me but everyone knows my "issue" now so I might as well sit right next to them! Anyways, this guy sat next to me and at first he didn't realize. He has always been nice to me....from a distance. Then when I had so much air in my stomach, it just starts going out (sorry people, I know it's disgusting) and I can't even keep it in so much because it just seems to give me more gas! Basically, the popping went on for the entire class and he was more uncomfortable than I was. The vibrating or farting noises are heard all the way across the room. I can't figure out why, it's not like I'm literally farting, you know!I hate it. I hate how that happens everywhere, and everyday. I hate how I can't cope with it, and I hate how people can't ignore it and realize I'm jus a normal person.
NYCluvr
10-13-2004, 09:21 PM
Normally when I know that my stomach is going to make a loud noise... i leave the room and go to the bathroom. 4 some reason when i walk around it settles my stomach a bit. But anyways, how do people react when they hear your stomach??? what do they do or say???
flurry
10-13-2004, 10:09 PM
Greetings to everyone! HealthFreak, I swear, you’re taking the words right out of my mouth. Were you stalking me?! Our stories sound so alike except in my case, I had to pass gas. It wasn’t merely just noises. Hmm, I guess I didn’t mention earlier that I was a girl too. I had to face people teasing me too. They shouted obscenities at me, loved to scapegoat me on campus, and although they never physically laid a finger on me, their hatred expressed through words were damaging enough. So how am I doing now? Life’s not perfect, not on this earth, but so far, I can say it is not bothering me, and I have God to thank for that. I used to think, “Oh no, they’re going to make fun of me!” but that has changed to “God, everything is in Your hands… even the little things.” Sunshine and NYCluvr brought in a really good point. We are blessed. We are God’s highest creation on earth and to allow our lives be run by these problems is not right… we’re not living up to our fullest potential. What that girl is doing in NYCluvr’s story is just amazing… but woe to those who ridicule her… they don’t know what Dignity means. A dear teacher and friend once told me that living with the fear of what others think of you is one of the lowest forms of living. Why did I just say all that? Because it is obvious that anxiety is part of the problem and by taking care of the fear, you can get well. How I took care of the fear was trusting God. Take it or leave guys, but I bear witness to that. It’s not just to bowel problems or any health problems… God can heal anyone of any ailment. It’s not magic, it’s not a miracle… and no, I have to say that just by simply asking God, it isn’t going to be POOF! Everything’s perfect… Nope. Faith is a lifelong struggle, but friends, He’ll help you through it, no matter how vast and insurmountable or how miniscule and mundane the problem. God can number all the hair on your head; He fearfully and wonderfully made YOU. If you studied science, you may know how staggeringly intricate the human body is. I used to feel horribly ugly and disgusting because of the bowel problem… and sometimes if it acts up, I forget about the beauty that’s already there and return to the dark thoughts.
Warning… this stuff may sound repetitive… but proceed if you wish…
Now God helps those who help themselves… besides praying to keep my spirits up, here’s what I do to keep the gas under control, and I can truly say that I feel healthy most days… Now first off, I have excessive gas and I have found the only way to get rid of it is to have a bm. I don’t know if that is the case for anyone else here… but where is all that gas coming from? Understand your body and its needs. To have a regular bm, I usually drink hot tea or water and that really helps. It’s not a laxative but I guess it just helps stimulate my body to have a bm, although I have to visit the bathroom a few times before I eliminate satisfactorily. If school starts at eight, I wake up at 6 and start eating and drinking the hot liquids, and when I successfully eliminate most of everything, the rest of the day I would find myself gas-free. During lunch I MUST eat lunch… it isn’t healthy to let your stomach sit empty when it should occupy food and I have in the past tried skipping meals in hopes of cutting down the gas. I felt very sick doing that and even more gaseous. *Eat healthy*- it’s a no brainer but I’ve read that you guys have been trying not to eat and that you are allergic to some healthy foods. I could not tolerate oatmeal at first but after sticking to it for a couple of weeks, my stomach did accept it. I could not eat fruits at first, but now apples everyday… we need the fiber. *Chew food slowly and thoroughly* *Exercise* Yes, exercise won’t help… if you don’t keep it up! Your body needs the circulation, you have limbs made for MOTION and with today’s technology like computers and games we are more reluctant to get off our buns. I loved hot cheetos, sodas, and any type of junk food before my intestines started acting haywire so I do not touch them anymore. It’s JUNK; there’s no nutrition and in the long run, it will probably severely worsen your problem. Imagine the chemicals and junk from ice cream, candy, whatever of those sorts fermenting in your intestines… it sure isn’t good for your body. Yes, this all seems very commonsense… and that’s all I can say.
One more thing… you can’t lose if you STRIVE to be healthy physically, emotionally, spiritually. The third one is the most important. That girl with cancer, she reminds me of someone. He was hated without any justifiable reason; if there was ever an opportunity for people to make him stumble, they would do their best. He was whipped so many times his body was shredded and glistening with blood. Some took turns throwing punches into his face until it became an unrecognizable pulp. Yet he never uttered a cry of pain. He carried the weight of the world’s sins when He didn’t have to. From the death He did not have to endure in the first place… He rose again. SMILE. You are beautiful. YOU are LOVED.
NYCluvr
10-14-2004, 07:42 PM
Thanx Flurry, that was very inspirational.. i dont even know how to respond to that. Those words just made me feel even better. I know alot of people arent religious n wont take what you said into consideration, but I understand fully where you are coming from. The sad thing is when you are in situations where you are being put down constantly it is easy to forget you can call on your God. Not saying that it happens always, but its a smack into reality. Do you still have that problem?? N when did u decide 2 seek God?
:angel:
MzTami
10-14-2004, 08:02 PM
I have been taking probiotics for about 2 1/2 weeks. It has helped my problem about 80%. In the morning is the worst for me, but when I eat and go to the bathroom, it helps me tremendously. Health Freak I heard that wheat causes gas and fruit too. Everything that is healthy causes gas, so what are we to do? Again, I have been taking "Reuteri" it cost only $5.80 at Sun Harvest. I also take a phayzme to make sure I don't have the embarrassing noises from my stomach. The probiotic is enteric coated so when you swallow it, it isn't disolved from the acid in your stomach before it reaches the intestines. I take two to three tablets a day depending on severity. Also, if you are drinking sodas that can cause a lot of gas.
I have not found anything that is 100% but so far probiotics and phazyme has helped me, and I feel more confident when I am around people and in quiet places.
Also, I tried that not eating and it made me weak and my stomach growled from hunger, so that was a catch 22. People think that it is a minor problem ,but its really embarrassing and it affects you emotionally. emotions are not minor.
health_freak
10-15-2004, 05:08 AM
flurry, I also have no words. You don't know how much I found your words soothing. Thank you. I wish I had more of that strength of yours. I will try all the things you and everyone else has been suggesting. No more ice-cream, chocolate, dairy products, oily, spicy food. If I must eat bread or pasta, I should eat it in moderate amounts and not in a hurry. I will try to do something about the exercise. As I am extremely lazy. I don't know if I can find the enzymes MzTami mentioned, but I suppose eating yogurt is good enough?
Inderstand that we are actually all very lucky, and that EVERYTHING happens for a reason. Please keep sharing your thoughts or feelings!!
MrOwl
10-15-2004, 09:07 AM
Yes, the exercise is very important. Instead of telling yourself that you are lazy, tell yourself that you are active. You will so find that you do the things that active people do. There is an old but true line from the Dale Carnegie courses, "Ascribe to your self the attributes you wish to have, and you will soon find that you have them." Therefore ascribe good, positive attributes to yourself. This change takes time so do not expect overnight miracles.
health_freak
10-17-2004, 06:44 AM
Thanks MrOwl. I should actually do something instead of complaining all the time.
But it's always easier to say something than to do it. I tried eating yogurt (the kind with the good bacteria etc) for an entire day, but didn't succeed. Typical. I love KFC, donuts, choclate, ice-cream, fries and if they are there, I'm not going to be ignoring them! Sure it's lack of self control but there are days when all I want to eat is a cookie, or some cereal, or a fruit juice or dare I say, a sandwich. I can't even have a little jam and forget about a meal. Maybe I can get away with a salad,if it's tiny and without any dressing. Sometimes I am so angry (or I should say hungry!) and eat every sort of junk I find. I eat nothing when outside, but once I'm in, I'll eat like a wolf.
Plus do you think it would reallly help if I just eat yogurt for the entire day?
I detest sitting still for more than half an hour. Sometimes I say to myself, just pretend no ones in the room, or just cough or tap your foot against your chair so no one will hear, but I can't be continuously banging on my chair. Everyone already knows anyways. That's even more embarassing. More than a couple of people have literally, actually turned around and looked at me with either a surprised look or like "are you farting?". It's useless though, I can't even hold it in, that's how bloated my stomach is. Even from eating nothing. It's sort of like little murmurs, or vibrating...
I'll try eating only yogurt for dinner. Maybe the next day will be better.
MzTami
10-21-2004, 07:38 PM
Health Freak,
Remember this process is not going to happen overnight. You have to continue eating right and taking the proboitics. You can find that probiotic at any Sun Harvest. It is kept refrigerated. You need to buy the enteric coated capsules, otherwise is does no good. Yogurt is good but most of the live bacteria is disolved in your stomach so that it isn't going straight to the intestines. You should try the probiotic, it has really helped me. If you buy some take three of them a day. It recolonizes the bacteria in your intestines. I guarantee, you will see results!
health_freak
10-23-2004, 11:58 AM
Thanks for the advice MzTami.
I did take these pills with lactobacill(sp?), as my doctor said I should get my stomach/intestines into shape again, and they did help bowel movement-which usually should alleviate the gas issues- and I did feel a little better but when I took it again, about a month ago, it didn't work at all. I really should cut down on sugar, milk, oily/spicy foods, and junk food. That may be the only thing that can ATLEAST not make matters worse.
Notice how I write that in almost all of my posts! =(
perrier
10-25-2004, 02:30 PM
Man guys, I've been having the same thing, and it's really hurt my schooling. It started off as some innocent stomach rumbling during a math test, and ever since then, it torments me in math class, every single day. I can't hardly concentrate on the lesson because I'm sitting there scared my stomach is going to start rumbling again. Initially it only seemed to hit in math class, but it has started showing up whenever I go to other classes as well. Sometimes it's so bad my stomach is visibly rumbling. I'm going to try eliminating dairy products from my diet, and see how that goes. It makes me feel so much better to know there are other people out there experiencing the same thing. I'm only 18, and this has really hit me hard :(
MrOwl
10-25-2004, 04:02 PM
If this only affects you during math class, I would suspect that it could be a nervous reaction to that class, or maybe the time of day of that class. Check out your feeling about that class. Have you changed your diet recently? That could also affect it.
health_freak
10-26-2004, 01:08 PM
I know, there are times and places when the grumbling is worse. This is proving that it has to be something psychological. I also have it worse during math class, for some absurd reason .Maybe because the class is small, and really quiet. Do try eliminating dairy products or other foods if it continues. Good Luck
Adidaskicks
11-01-2004, 02:01 AM
Hey new here. I was just readling along and I have the same problem. One time I had to make a speech in front of my entire senior class (we had almost 900 people in our class). The mic picked up the growling and everyone started laughing. Besides that it growls all day in every class. I wind up having to leave a class to use the bathroom like everyday because it gets so loud. Perrier I can see my stomach rumble too. So I know how bad you must feel.
isaack
11-01-2004, 05:56 AM
I have had the same problem for about the last three years and I cannot tell you the amount of trouble it has caused me at school and in my social life. I think I have tried just about everything but nothing has seemed to work. I don't even bother with doctors anymore because I've never had any help or sympathy from them. But what I'd like to know from other people affected here, is how did this problem start for you? Did it come on gradually, or was it a sudden thing that just persisted, and was there something you took, i.e. medications or something, that you suspect brought it on? Because for me, I'm pretty sure it was brought on by fluoride tablets I was on at the time. Dunno what you think of that, but it would be interesting to hear if anyone has any ideas of what might have brought this problem onto them. Please reply :)
health_freak
11-03-2004, 03:34 PM
Adidaskicks, I know what you mean about the speech. I've had many (and I really mean MANY) occasions where I had to be constantly embarassed. I really feel people are cause of my problem, because if there were nobody around, I really wouldn't care and would be relaxed, but i don't know about you. I also try to go to the bathroom as much as I can during the day, but most of the time, it really doesn't help.
Isaak, I don't think you should give up, even though sometimes I think we just have to learn to accept it, and it will eventually disappear. We should realize it's not such a big deal, and forget about it. Still, it's depressing to think that no doctor can help. A few doctors seem to understand what I mean, but the medicines they have given me or advice didn't really help. I mean, one told me to just relax. Oh, that's really helpful! Proves it's psychological though.
It started about two years ago. I can't even remember exactly when, because it's been for so long. I just remember the embarassment and stress I went through, and am still going through. I do recall being very much under pressure from work, and I also remember having gone under very strong antibiotics. That is probably what initiated it, now that I think of it. Some say it's just character, but surely it's got to be partially physical? Have you tried changing your diet a little? What I've been doing these past weeks is eat very little-especially when I have to go somewhere with many people-and just eat when I get back. It sounds unhealthy, but I've noticed the noises are better during the day. Also, I eat yogurt with 'friendly bacteria' every morning, even at night, and believe it or not, I have less air. You should give it a try
Good luck
health_freak
12-05-2004, 02:09 PM
My recomendation: yogurt and LOTS of exercise. Most importantly, NO STRESS.
lydia88
01-22-2005, 04:31 PM
Hey everyone! I just wanted to say that I am amazed that many of you (NYCluvr, Health_Freak) have the exact same symptoms as me. We all think about it in the same way, and let it decide whether we'll go out or even go to class. It's so ridiculous that doctors just don't seem to know anything about it (What are we paying them for?!). Well, I've read through this entire thread, and I've jotted down all your suggestions... the enteric-coated probiotic, live cultured yogurts, eliminating dairy, etc. I'm going to try them ALL!
So here's my history with my stomach problems:
I'm a little pressed for time as I'm leaving for a program in New York in a few days, but I'm not going to let this stupid problem stop me. I WILL find a solution. Ok, I'm not actually this confident. I have absolutely no social life now, and sometimes I feel like I'd rather have some life-threatening disease than suffer with this problem my entire life. If that sounds selfish, you all need to understand, this stomach problem-- the noises, the gas, the discomfort-- has made my life MISERABLE.
I've only been dealing with my stomach problems for a few months, but I've had enough. I don't know how to cope with it. I can't bare to go out with people (Going to a movie is a real "event"... I need to have all medications on hand... Antacids calm my stomach a little, so does Imodium, but my doctor said to stop taking Imodium because it's bad for you... But I'm getting side-tracked.), suffering through a 50-minute class period is usually so unbearable that I must get up and go to the nurse to lay down. I even had to request to take my exams in a private room because of my stomach.
Like you all said, thinking about my stomach makes it worse, and being in the presence of people is a constant struggle. Thoughts related to my stomach in any way are always running through my head. I avoid social contact because of it. I have a tutor for the SATs and whenever she's here, I try to find some way to have some "background noise" to drown out my stomach in case it starts. I often throw some sweatshirts in the dryer to make lots of noise during tutoring sessions. But I know I won't be able to do that in New York, because I'll be living with 30 other people. NO PRIVACY. That is what gets to me.
Sometimes I think I won't even go to New York. I'll just drop out of school and live on my own. I can't control the thoughts that make my stomach worse, and I can't control my stomach symptoms.
I am an extremely nervous/anxious person, and I thought that was the primary cause of my stomach problems. So I've been taking Prozac for about 2.5 weeks now. So far, no improvements. But it's not supposed to have an effect for more like 4-6 weeks. So we'll see if becoming less anxious with medication helps my stomach. Even if Prozac doesn't make my stomach better, it may numb my anxiety, and that will be a dramatic improvement in my life by itself. Wow, I digress.
So, to sum up, I have the same stomach symptoms of noise, discomfort, and gas. I want it to stop, because it's ruining my life. I can't control any part of it. Being nervous makes it worse, and thinking about my stomach makes it worse. I need a SOLUTION, and I'm FRUSTRATED. I'm going to go out right now to get the probiotics and yogurt.
THANK YOU ALL for your suggestions, and please respond to my post! I'd love to hear from you!
health_freak
04-11-2005, 02:16 PM
Lydia88, in case you are reading this, how are you doing??I stopped checking this board because I thought people stopped posting on here and still feel like I am the only person with this frustrating and humiliating problem. I know, we should be grateful that we have this, and nothing worse, but it's so hard when people give dirty looks or get all squirmy when nearby. I feel not many can understand or have this problem because from what I read, the grumbling some of you hear is coming from your stomachs. I never said this before, but let me tell you guys: you are LUCKY. Noises from your stomach, you can blame it on your stomach and people will just think you're hungry. In my case, people think I'm passing gas, and actually 'feel' the vibration. I know, it sounds gross and it is unbearably embarassing, but I am learning to cope with it, by accepting myself. Sure, people may laugh or scorn and think I am disrespectful, but it's time to ignore them. Always make the most of what you have. And at this point, it's better to lose 'friends' than have people who can't understand that it's a health problem.
MzTami
04-18-2005, 02:35 PM
Hi Heath Freak and everyone posting,
I went to the doctor last week and she prescribed "Nulev." I have not taken it, I was wondering if anyone has ever tried it? I went to her last month and she prescribed that medicine that shows women stomach on tv. (the bloating and constipation written on their stomachs) I don't remember the name, but I never got the prescription filled because I heard some terrible things about it.
Anyway, I haven't found a cure for our problems and the doctor said "there is no cure. If and when someone finds a cure, they will be very rich." That doesn't benefit me at all.
health_freak
04-29-2005, 10:59 AM
If someone does find the cure, I don't think he'll be very rich because so few people have this problem!
I guess it's all about the way you approach it, though it's hard to cope with. Basically the ways to prevent it from WORSENING are:
eat healthily-no foods that prevent gas (all veggies and fruits in other words)
exercise (alleviates temporarily)
stop stressing out and face it positively
sarra
04-30-2005, 12:08 PM
I agree with the person who mentioned trying PROBIOTICS earlier....but keep in mind that depending on how long your internal intestinal flora has been out of balance it could take a few months to rebalance everything. So the main thing with PROBIOTICS or the active culture yougurts is don't get discouraged if you don't get results right away. The other thing about probiotics is there are many different strains available and it may take some self-educating, trial and error to find which is the best for you. There is still so much more we need to learn about this, but there is a lot of excellent info on the web. Good Luck :) Sarra
abe1978
05-02-2005, 12:21 AM
Hello Health_Freak, MzTami, Sarra, and the several others who have been in this thread. I have to say, I have a problem as well, but I would take all of your problems over mine. I have issues with my bowel and stomach as well, but no noises though. I actually have a fecis-like smell emitting from my person (see the thread "I need help"). I firmly believe it has been occuring since I was 15 or 16 (I am 26). I have found that many of the food products you have all mentioned (including alcohol) effect me as well, but in a different way, the smell gets worse. In the morning, after I bm and before I eat or anything, I feel the best. Bms really seem to help, and I typically shower 3 times per day! Even with all of this adversity, I cope. I am 26, finishing my degree this summer (yay!), and have many great people around me. My friends and family have accepted me as I am, and I really agree with 'flurry', if you put all of your trust and all of your life in God's hands, he seems to take control. I think flurry said some things in these earlier posts, all of which I have read for the first time tonight, that you were all meant to hear. I understand of your situation, believe me, but we must not let it control our lives. You should all be happy that you don't smell like I do! I love the fact that I can make fun of myself like that.
I just found this website a few days ago, and I posted my own thread, which I have had a great person named Harry reply (he has made like 2700 posts). He recommended probiotics and suggested a couple of books entitled 'The Complete Book of Enzyme Therapy' and 'Enzyme Nutrition.' I have ordered both of these for about $15 dollars total.
Even though we have different problems, I am also comforted knowing that you all have problems originating from the same place! I just want you to know that there IS a place where there are no diseases, no bad smells, no popps, and no bad gas! All it takes is accepting God and trusting in Him, and let me tell you, you will be relieved of all worries and stress!
Blessings,
Abe
Nova287
05-03-2005, 05:21 PM
Hi everyone,
I've had this problem occassionally, and I know how you feel about the embarassment! Classes and exams are definitely the worst when your stomach is constantly grumbling.
I was just wondering, have any of you considered getting a colonic? I've never had one, but from what I've read, they're very helpful with bowel trouble. Apparently, we have a lot of toxic, petrefied (sorry, gross!) cr*p stuck to our colon walls (from eating highly processed junk all the time :rolleyes: ) and colonics are the only effective way to get rid of it- laxatives never get rid of all of it, and only stress your intestines more. Some of the benefits are supposed to include clearer skin and easier weight loss. Some people lose literally 5-15 lbs of waste after their first colonic! If any of you have had one, I'd like to know how the results turned out. :)
~Nova
ohno!
10-05-2005, 09:46 PM
i thought i was the only one with this problem, i have had it since i was 9 and i also noticed a change in bowel habits along with it. in my case i dont think it's psychological as it happens even when i am relaxed and not thinking about it. it's driving me crazy! i don't want to go out anymore.
MzTami
10-06-2005, 08:30 AM
i thought i was the only one with this problem, i have had it since i was 9 and i also noticed a change in bowel habits along with it. in my case i dont think it's psychological as it happens even when i am relaxed and not thinking about it. it's driving me crazy! i don't want to go out anymore.
What medications have you taken for it???
ohno!
10-06-2005, 05:21 PM
What medications have you taken for it???
i've just been taking magnesium+calcium, probiotics and drinking camomile tea and i'm on a low carb diet for suspected candida.
rachel18
10-07-2005, 01:06 AM
The proper name for stomach noises is called borbyrygmi, and the noise that you hear is due to your intestines trying to push along toxins. Causes of borborygmi is usually associated with dysbiosis (overgrowth of bad bacteria in the intestines) or candiadisis (over growth of candida in the intestine). Candida feeds off sugar therefore individuals who have a diet high in white pasta, white rice, sweets, lollies etc will be more prone to it. So it will be wise to look at your diet, start choosing alternatives for these; brown rice, wholegrain/brown bread, stop eating lollies, stop drinking soft drink, increase your water intake, avoid coffee, and replace with teas (green tea/herbal teas). However just changing your diet will not get rid of the candida, you will have to get rid of it, and the best suggestion that i have is to go to a naturopath! They specialise in bowel disorders and overgrowth of bacteria, where they will give you herbal preparations that are antibacterial, antimicrobial to eradicate the bacteria from your gut. They will also use herbs to help tone the integrity of your gut, increasing the function of it and decreasing gas production (which is produced from fermentation of sugar etc in your colon). Medication will not get rid of the cause of what is happening in your colon it will only cover up the symptoms! This is why not all medication will completely get rid of the symptoms you are experiencing because the bacteria and cause of the symptoms are still there! Naturopathy and herbal medicine looks at treating the cause which will in turn help your symptoms and completely get rid of the bacteria therefore you will not experience any of the symptoms again.
I hope i have been of some help to all of you, feel free to ask any questions.
P.s i am studying naturopathy
ohno!
10-08-2005, 11:18 PM
The proper name for stomach noises is called borbyrygmi, and the noise that you hear is due to your intestines trying to push along toxins. Causes of borborygmi is usually associated with dysbiosis (overgrowth of bad bacteria in the intestines) or candiadisis (over growth of candida in the intestine). Candida feeds off sugar therefore individuals who have a diet high in white pasta, white rice, sweets, lollies etc will be more prone to it. So it will be wise to look at your diet, start choosing alternatives for these; brown rice, wholegrain/brown bread, stop eating lollies, stop drinking soft drink, increase your water intake, avoid coffee, and replace with teas (green tea/herbal teas). However just changing your diet will not get rid of the candida, you will have to get rid of it, and the best suggestion that i have is to go to a naturopath! They specialise in bowel disorders and overgrowth of bacteria, where they will give you herbal preparations that are antibacterial, antimicrobial to eradicate the bacteria from your gut. They will also use herbs to help tone the integrity of your gut, increasing the function of it and decreasing gas production (which is produced from fermentation of sugar etc in your colon). Medication will not get rid of the cause of what is happening in your colon it will only cover up the symptoms! This is why not all medication will completely get rid of the symptoms you are experiencing because the bacteria and cause of the symptoms are still there! Naturopathy and herbal medicine looks at treating the cause which will in turn help your symptoms and completely get rid of the bacteria therefore you will not experience any of the symptoms again.
I hope i have been of some help to all of you, feel free to ask any questions.
P.s i am studying naturopathy
thanks for your help!
i do agree with you about finding the cause being important. could candida cause grumbling in the rectum, not just the colon?
MzTami
10-09-2005, 03:08 PM
i think that is exactly what is going on with the noises. Last year around this time, I was taking a probiotic and digestive enzymes, before I knew it the noises had stopped for 3 months. Anyway, I thought I was cured and stopped taking everything and now my noises are back and I can't get rid of them. I think I was ridding my body of bad bacteria and replacing it would good bacteria in my intestines.I think when I stopped taking the probiotic and digestive enzymes and continued to eat unhealthy, I built up bad bacteria again, and now I am trying to build my intestine with healthy bacteria with L acdiphilious(sp?)
Rachel18 you shared some very good information and I have suspected that overgrowth of yeast in the intestine is my problem...Why can't regular doctors cure it? Why do naturalist have the cure??? I have suffered enough with this embarrassing problem. What medicine can we take for now?? I have a health food store near me.
Thanks in advance.
Harry
10-09-2005, 04:23 PM
The problem with yeast is the is no test to determine what is normal -- we all have candida in our system but when it gets overgrown -- you have to go by the symptoms and many Doctors run tests and don't listen to our complaints.
The are several very good probiotic supplements that I have used to help re-balance the friendly bacteria in your Gastro tract---It get out every time I take an antibiotic. Other causes are too much salt, sugary food, spicy food even alcohol..
Pearls by Enzymatic Therapy, Culturelle, and Reuteri by Primadophilus. ---You can buy them at health food stores and online.
Another thing is that may help calm your intestines down from growling or being excessively noisey is taking a Calcium/ Magnesium supplement--- natures Natural Tranquillizer. About 80% of people are lacking magnesium even though it is in alot of foods. You need it anyway to prevent osteoporosis -- that don't start when you get old-- bone is a living thing. 67% of magnesium in your body is in your bone and every cell in your body contains it!!!
There is a web site in the Informational Archive at the top of this board about the Miracal of Magnesium-- it is certainly worth reading!!
God Bless~~~Harry
MzTami
10-09-2005, 08:08 PM
Thanks Harry for your response, I am currently taking the pearl by Enzymatic, also taking an organic multi-vitamin/mineral to help with my calcium/magnesium intake. I'm drinking more water and eating yogurt. How long would it take for me to see better results??? I have been taking the pearls pills for a week. Also, the lady at the healthfood store recommend taking Aloe Life Juice from Concentrate. It has vitamins, minerals, enzymes, and 8 essential amino acids, it's also polysaccharide rich...Is this okay for "over growth of yeast in the intestines?? I told her I needed something for intestinal gas and she highly recommend it and said that it will cure my intestines of whatever is causing my gas/stomach noises. She also recommend Gastritix..it contains fennel seed, wild yam root, ginger root, slippery elm bark, chamomile dried extract, marshmallow root, gelatin capsule, maltodextrin, magnesium stearate.
Thanks for your prompt response
rachel18
10-10-2005, 06:27 AM
MzTami;
I'm not too sure about the Aloe Life juice i haven't heard about it before, but if the health food assistant said that it will help, she must have had past customers say very good things about it, so you should give it a go.
The gastritix sounds very promising, fennel seed is a carminative and spasmolytic and will therefore help calm the noises in your stomach. Its also antimicrobial which will help kill bacteria in the gut. It is also recommended in chronic digestive problems; bloating, and flatulence. Marshmallow and slippery elm bark will act as a demulcent and help soothe and protect any inflammation of the intestinal tract. Ginger and chamomile are also antispasmodic and calming herbs specific for the gut and any digestive problems. So i can't see why it shouldn't work as it seems very specific for the problem that you have, please let us know if it works!
Harry
10-11-2005, 12:34 AM
MzTami,
I think that culture L. acidophilus that is in Pearls is one of the most plentiful cultures in your intestines. But there are many -- many more--- 400 different ones have been identified and they weigh about 4 pounds. It is only logical that many are useful and serve different functions.
I have never just taken 1 probiotic supplement culture to cure an un--balanced of intestinal friendly flora. So, I really don't know if just 1 culture would cure the problem.
The various ones I take do different useful things in your intestines. That is why I eat yogurt that contains 6 active cultures, drink Kefir that contains many good friendly cultures and take other supplement --not just Pearls.
Sorry-but I don't know much about using herbal remedies to help the friendly intestinal bacteria---
One thing that you may want to consider for excess intestial gas is diestive enzymes--- If carbs are not properly digested it can cause alot of gas.
There is good site in the Informational Archive at the top of this board about Controlling Gas--- it is certainly worth reading...
Take Care----Harry
rachel18
10-13-2005, 05:30 AM
Id also like to add another reason that can cause the borborygmi, it can be due to a wheat intolerence. When the wheat is ingested it will irritate the lining of your gastro intestinal tract. When this happens the intestinal walls will produce peristaltic movements to try and get the irritant (wheat) off the intestinal wall causing unusual grumbling. The intestinal wall will also produce mucous to try and protect it from irritants, leading to malabsorption issues. A big sign of wheat intolerance is if you are underweight or find it hard to gain weight even if you do eat a fair bit, as this is due to not being able to absorb the nutrients properly from food due to the excess mucous in your intestines preventing this.
MzTami
10-14-2005, 12:58 PM
Thanks Rachel18, you are very informative. I use to think that I was wheat/Gluten intolerance. I discontinued these products for 2 to 3 weeks and my noises continued. I think I have an overgrowth of yeast. I was reading about a simple test that you can take at home to see if you have an overgrowth of yeast.
I read that you get a clear glass and fill it with bottled water, do not use faucet water. In the morning when you wake up, take the glass with the bottled water and work up some saliva in your mouth and spit into the glass. Check after 15 minutes, if the saliva starts turning in to specks and sinking to the bottom of the glass, then after 1 hour check to see if the saliva sinked to the bottom of the glass and if it looks cloudy. If so, you have an overgrowth of yeast in your body. If the saliva stays at the top of the glass then you are okay.
I tested myself last night and this morning, I got the same results. I tested positive for having an overgrowth of yeast. I took the test even further, I had my son, spit into a clear glass of bottled water this morning and his saliva did not move, it stayed at the top of the glass. I plan on testing my whole family. By the way, my kids or hubby do not have the same problem that I have.
MzTami
10-14-2005, 01:44 PM
I have a question for Rachel18 or Harry. If you suspect that you have a yeast overgrowth and sugar is what yeast feeds and grows from. I am confused, because I am drinking Aloe Vera Juice from Concentrate, that has minerals, vitamins, 8 essential amino acids, and enzymes, but polysacchride Rich...Wouldn't the polysacchride be feeding the yeast, but then again, it would be boosting my immune system to fight off the infection faster?? So Should I be taking the Alove Vera Juice or not???
ohno!
10-14-2005, 06:35 PM
MzTami i have the same prob, i did the spit test and turns out i have yeast overgrowth, but i think i used tap water so tomorrow morning i'll try the bottled water.
i want to try threelac, i heard that's really good if you use it along with anti-candida diet, but i live in australia and they don't sell it here :(. i have been taking garlic capsules though.
Harry
10-14-2005, 08:43 PM
MzTami,
I have heard of the spit test but have never read any literature about how the test was validated to determine candida overgrowth~~~ Do you know of a book that contain this Info -- I am very interested.
Polysaacchrides is a form of sugar that should not be included in any anti-candida diet. Aloe vera is used for all sorts of things in the Gastro tract healing and cleaning but I have not heard that it is good for anti candida??
ohno,
I have used ThreeLac and could not tell any change? I personally would not buy any again.
rachel18
10-14-2005, 10:46 PM
Garlic is fantastic for supporting natural bacterial flora in the gut but it will also kill off pathogenic organisms at the same time. It is considered a natural antibiotic. Instead of taking a garlic capsule just cutting up a clove of garlic, say 1/2 a clove and swallowing it whole is equally as good. However do not take too much garlic at once as it can cause diarrhoea (which i did find out on my own account by experimenting with too much)
MzTami
10-14-2005, 11:34 PM
Harry, I read about the spit test on another healthboard last night. From what I read, a lot of people seem to say that it is pretty accurate. I think you have to check your results within the hour though. If you let it sit all night or for hours, the spit will eventually sink and be foggy at the bottom of the glass.
Harry
10-15-2005, 12:19 AM
I am familar with the spit test but have not been able to find out where it is written about to say that the results are reliable? The problem I have is after you have been cured has anyones spit test results become normal??
I have read 4 books about yeast problems and none suggest the use of a spit test to determine if you have candida overgrowth problems--- The Doctors that wrote the books say you go by the symptoms.
There is a test for your stool that is tested by several Labs in the US that result are accurate in determining if you have yeast infection/overgrowth. 1 of the Labs is located in North Carolina.
Changingwoman
10-15-2005, 03:21 AM
Don't worry about the upper and lower GI tests. They give you medication that really works! I recently had it done and it was no big deal. But don't ask me about a sigmoidoscopy! I found that to be uncomfortable. I suspect your problems are irritable bowel syndrome or something similar. See a specialist! In the meanwhile, eliminate the most common allergy foods from your diet for a week and then slowly add them one at a time and keep a written record of what happens. Keep a food diary for a month and see if certain foods cause the problem. You may have food sensitivities, parasites, or allergies.
MzTami
10-15-2005, 11:10 AM
Don't worry about the upper and lower GI tests. They give you medication that really works! I recently had it done and it was no big deal. But don't ask me about a sigmoidoscopy! I found that to be uncomfortable. I suspect your problems are irritable bowel syndrome or something similar. See a specialist! In the meanwhile, eliminate the most common allergy foods from your diet for a week and then slowly add them one at a time and keep a written record of what happens. Keep a food diary for a month and see if certain foods cause the problem. You may have food sensitivities, parasites, or allergies.
Thanks Changingwoman for your suggestion. I have seen my doctor about my problem and she diagnosed me with IBS without doing one single test. In order to see a specialist I have to get a referral from her first; Therefore, I have to continue paying the copayment of $30 that can get expensive. which she will have me come in and prescribe more medicines that I don't even get the prescription filled because it's not worth it. I have also read that a lot of people that go to these different specialist and get no cure, come out worst than when they went in, and their pocket book depleted. Therefore, I am taking my health into my own hands by getting information through research.
Also, I have tried eliminating wheat/gluten products from my diet and the noises continued. I remember when I first joined this board, Harry gave me some great advice. He recommended the Reuteri, calcium/magnesium, and digestive enzymes. When I was taking his advice, and the priobiotic and supplements he recommended, my stomach growling stopped for 3 months, that is when I thought I was cured and stopped taking everything; now my stomach noises are back and I am trying to get back to what I was taking in the past that helped me. I think I was treating the overgrowth yeast, not knowing that I had it. There is some great advice on healthboards and actual stories that people have experienced and what helped them. They are not marketers, but people like me that are in my situation or was in my situation. It can't get any better than that!
MzTami
10-15-2005, 04:45 PM
Harry, I went to buy BioBead by Natrol and Solaray Yeast-Cleanse today at the healthfood store. Any information about these products?? I had the pearls already. I want to try and get this gut in shape. The Yeast Cleanse contains Vitamin C, Calcium, Magnesium, Zinc, Caprylic Acid, Pau D'Arco(Tabebula spp), Grapefruit(seed extract), GP Garlic(Allium satiivum), Licorice, Tea Tree Oil, Vegetable Cellulose capsule, Whole Rice Concentrate, Cellulose, Dong Quai Root, Fennel Seed, Silica, Glycerin and Magnesium Stearate.
Thanks in advance for all of your great advice! Thanks Rachel18 too.
Harry
10-15-2005, 07:42 PM
Biobeads is about the same as Pearls -- they even look alike.
I don't know about the Yeast Clease but it should work.
Harry
10-16-2005, 12:56 AM
MzTami,
Common OTC remedies that do in canadida/yeast overgrowth are Caprlic Acid, Pau d'arco, garlic, grapefruit seed extract, wild oregano oil, Kolorex, Aloe vera juice, olive leaf extract and there are others!! You can buy them 1 at a time.
1 of the better prescription drugs for the Gastro tract is Nystatin powder that you gargle with and swallow.
Some are in the Yeast Cleanse product that you bought.
I prefer to use them one at a time to treat candida/ yeast problems-- I don't like the shotgun approach with getting rid candida because the candida/ yeart can readily mutate and then you don't know what helps and also is the ones in the product that you are using strong enough to kill off what you are trying to get rid of??
Since you have it, it may just work for you.
I certainly hope so.
Harry
MzTami
10-16-2005, 12:50 PM
MzTami,
Common OTC remedies that do in canadida/yeast overgrowth are Caprlic Acid, Pau d'arco, garlic, grapefruit seed extract, wild oregano oil, Kolorex, Aloe vera juice, olive leaf extract and there are others!! You can buy them 1 at a time.
1 of the better prescription drugs for the Gastro tract is Nystatin powder that you gargle with and swallow.
Some are in the Yeast Cleanse product that you bought.
I prefer to use them one at a time to treat candida/ yeast problems-- I don't like the shotgun approach with getting rid candida because the candida/ yeart can readily mutate and then you don't know what helps and also is the ones in the product that you are using strong enough to kill off what you are trying to get rid of??
Since you have it, it may just work for you.
I certainly hope so.
Harry
Harry, I thought you said Aloe Vera Juice was bad for overgrowth of yeast?? I took my Alo Life Aloe Vera Juice Concentrate back because it was polysaccharide rich..Wouldn't that keep the yeast growing??
Also, I am worried about the die-off period. The istructions say take 6 capsules with a meal or glass of water. So far, I have only taken 3. I read that some people have taken Primal Defense for the Yeast and they felt like dying after taking 2 capsules. Some say that's how they know it's working by the die-off period. I don't know, I am taking it slow.
Harry
10-16-2005, 04:52 PM
MzTami,
Sugar does feed yeast-- so when you mix all kind of products together -- you cannot tell what is working as an anti-candida remedy.
I have never taken Aloe Vera juice for anti-candida but the book says that it has shown the ability to boost white blood cell that kills off yeast cells. There are about 200 different types of Aloe Vera plants.
The die-off is sorta like the flu symptoms sorta achey-- the only time I have ever had it is taking anti-fungal drugs --- Diflucan and Nystatin and not using over the OTC remedies or Primal Defense...
MzTami
10-17-2005, 01:49 PM
Harry, When does the die-off period began. I have been taking the Yeast Cleanse for 2 days. Yesterday, I took the recommended amount, and so far I feel okay.(knock on wood) Also, what other symptoms besides flu-like should or could I experience??? Should any Worms,yeast or parasites come out of my stools??
Thanks in advance.
Harry
10-17-2005, 10:57 PM
MzTami,
You will not pass anything in your BM that you can tell is candida related. As you may know the reaction of die-off is a reaction of killing toxins very rapidly so that get re-absorbed back in your system.
If you have a bad case and alot gets killed all at once --- that is when you may have a Herxheimer type reaction.
It could be like any reaction to a medication-- aching, tired to the point of fatique, bloating, headache, and stuffiness. And it should just last a few days but some get it for several weeks and have to reduce the treatment!!
The object is not to do in all the candida but produce a balance of candida/yeast in your system.
I have read that a rection is good to have because then you know it's working--- but there is some controverse about that--
I would just go by your symptoms --- are you feeling any better or worse? I could most of the times go by the way my tongue looks-- is it cleaner and not coated white-- I have thought for a long time that your tongue is an indicator of the health of your GI tract---
some Doctors seem to always want to look at your tongue and mouth during an exam. Next time one does it to you--- ask what is he looking for??
I wish you well~~~Harry
ohno!
10-18-2005, 02:39 AM
Thanks Harry, I have decided not to try threelac, $85 is too much for something that may not work!
I am going to the dentist next week to see if i can get my fillings removed, I have heard that they can cause symptoms that are similar to candida or can be a cause of candida.
Something makes me feel like a grumbling rectum is more than just gas though, since everybody gets gas once in a while, but people never a grumbling rectum from it. maybe it is a muscular problem aswell?
MzTami
10-18-2005, 10:55 AM
Harry or Rachel18,
I was reading an article and it said that natural antifungals do not work for candidiasis. It said that natural drug don't have enough potency. The article recommended the antifungal drugs Lamsil, diflucan, and nystatin. It highly recommended lamsil. Should I go to my physcian and ask for a prescription for lamsil? I really hate taking prescription drugs, but I need an anti-fungal drug that is going to work.
Also, I was reading another post and someone said they had intestinal candidiasis and that was the reason behind their stomach noises. They said they were taking a soluble fiber supplement(prebiotic) and probiotics(fructose free). Give me an example of a soluble fiber supplement. Are the biobeads and pearls fructose free? Please advise.
Harry
10-19-2005, 12:50 AM
MzTami---
Lamisil is used to treat toenail fungus infections(look it up) not Gastro yeast problems and read the Pearls container-- to see what's in it.
I suggest if you think you have a Gastrointestinal candida/ yeast infection based on your symptoms then find a Doctor that treats it and have him treat you with the proper anti-fungal drugs, and an anti-candida diet as well as probiotic supplements.
That is what I did when I first got a gastro intestinal yeast infection in the eighties by taking too many antibiotics ---
I also became very pro-active and read 4 or 5 books and many articles about The Yeast Connetion and Syndrome.
God Bless---Harry
Harry
10-21-2005, 08:43 PM
Hey MzTami,
You may want to read this recent post by Piglover on the Alternative Medicine board about Candida problems:
The only way you'll really know is to consult a Dr. and submit to the tests (s)he may order. People with similar symptoms can advise, but you are an individual, and finding out what's wrong (with you, individually), is the best source of comfort and finding a way back to your normal life.
MzTami
10-25-2005, 10:15 AM
Harry,
I have been taking the probiotics, digestive enzymes, and I stop taking the Yeast Cleanse, instead I have subsititued it for garlic. Anyway, I went and bought kefir(plain) and benefiber and something is making me more constipated. I drink plenty of water so I don't know what it could be. I did a fleet enema last night and didn't get much relief just a lot of bubbly gas in my stomach. What would you recommend? I need a really good detoxing product. I know a lot of people prefer colonix but it is too expensive. I need something for parasites,colon cleansing everything. I was watching tv and there was a program on about Dual Action Cleanse, it's cheaper than colonix but I don't know if it's just as effective.
Thanks in advance.
Harry
10-25-2005, 03:19 PM
MzTami,
I have never taken a colon cleanser except when taking a laxative for a colonoscopy. So, I really know very little about the brands of Colon Cleansers on the market.
I take psyllium twice daily and have for 22 years -- the brand is now the the Equate brand from Wal Mart. I have never taken Benefiber but it is a soluble fiber and should worked like all soluble fibers do -- bulk up your stool and make you regular.
A Fleet enama should have worked to at least start a BM and produce some intestinal contractions.
I also take digestive enzymes, probiotics, antioxidants, other supplements, vitamins and minerals and eat yogurt daily and take kefir when I eat oatmeal about a quart weekly.
When I do get constipated, I use homeopathic remedies.
The probiotics I take daily are Pearls, Culturuelle and PB-8 and L. Reuteri. I eat Stonyfield Farm yogurt (plain low fat) at least 3 times daily.
It sound like you have something going on that is not functioning properly??? What does your Doctor think?
MzTami
10-26-2005, 12:29 PM
Harry,
I wanted to give an update on the colon cleansing product; I went and bought Whole System Cleaning(I think that's the name) by Enzymatic. It cleans intestines, colon, liver, lymph..etc. I took it last night and man I have had about 4 BM's and I feel so much better. It has psyllium husk(?) instead of senna and cascara which they say are harsh laxatives. Anyway, I can feel it breaking down everything in my stomach. You take it for 14 days..You take fiber,thyllmatic milk(sp)it's for the liver cleaning, and mild laxative pills. It supposed to give your whole body a good cleaning.
I feel a little brain-fog but other than that, I feel so much better now that I am having BM's. Also, I hear less stomach noises today. I can't wait until tonight, I will begin my second dosage of supplements.
Also, is it okay to consume organic wheat flour,organics palm oil if you are on the candida diet?? I bought Organic water carackers and I want to know if they are safe to eat?
Thanks in advance
Harry
10-26-2005, 03:06 PM
MzTami,
I am glad to hear that you feel better with having BMs.
The object of the Anti-candida diet is to reduce sugar in your diet and that includes simple carbohydrates.
Anything that is made with wheat flour whether it's organic or not probably contains too many carbohydrates. And, simple carbohydrates are converted to sugar (glucose) almost immediate when you eat it. That also goes with any grain flour and crackers. Look on the container-- and see how many Carbs the product contains.
1 slice bread contains 15 grams of carbohydrate, 5 saltines crackers contain 11 carbs so I am sure the organic crackers contain carbs --
You just have to limit your intake of carbs because they are converted to sugar that feed candida as well as yeast. They are all safe just not good for people with candida infections~~~
ohno!
10-31-2005, 05:30 PM
i started a detox program yesterday, it contains psyllium, but for some reason i am constipated :confused:
MzTami
11-01-2005, 12:01 PM
Which detox program did you get?? Did you get one that contains senna or cascara? Sometimes these laxative constipate you. I used the Parastroy and it constipated me. It contained cascara, but I quit using it after a week, I couldn't take being constipated.
I bought "Whole Body Cleanse" by enzymatic. It is working great for me. I don't have a BM every single day, but when I do, which is every other day, and sometimes daily, I have 3 to 5 BM's. It is really cleaning me out though. I would highly recommend it.
ohno!
11-01-2005, 05:24 PM
I did check out the "Whole Body Cleanse" but its not available here :(
The one im using has psyllium, but I reread the instruction pamphlet and it said constipation is a common side-effect for the first few days. I cant stand it though because it makes candida worse.
MzTami
11-02-2005, 04:40 PM
Try doing a fleet enema to give you relief.
ohno!
11-03-2005, 04:11 PM
thanks mztami, i haven't tried the enema but my constipation has gone away. unfortunately i think my grumbling is worse, especially in the rectum, in my stomach it has lessened a bit.
MzTami
11-03-2005, 08:50 PM
Are you taking digestive enzymes too??? It's going to take a while to get the intestines back in shape, depending on how bad the situation is. Give it time.
ohno!
11-10-2005, 04:07 PM
thanks mztami, i keep forgetting this isn't like fixing a car... lol
i do take enzymes, they're good
also, i was reading about sulphur deficiency and how it can cause candida or how candida can cause sulphur deficiency, and i also read on a homepathy website that sulphur is used to help intestinal grumbling
MzTami
11-10-2005, 08:32 PM
I will check into that..My stomach noises are up and down still.. I will keep you posted if something new comes up or if I find a cure.
Thanks for checking in...Keep posting.
ohno!
11-13-2005, 06:41 PM
about acidophilus yogurt.. how much is too much? how much is good to have per day?
Harry
11-13-2005, 09:56 PM
ohno,
About the use of Lactobacillus acidophilus---
I suggest you read my post on page 3 of the thread --Chronic Diarrhea After bowel Resection-- #14 located on this page~~
Harry
wingedunicorn
11-14-2005, 07:51 AM
The scope`s ok just uncomfortable, and im a big baby where it comes to anything like that! :eek:
ohno!
11-24-2005, 07:17 PM
Thank you for your help, Harry! I think I may not tolerate yogurt well. I've been keeping a food diary and I seem to get reactions from it, maybe I eat too much of it.
Halfcab123
12-16-2005, 01:50 PM
I have a problem as well, but I would take all of your problems over mine. I have issues with my bowel and stomach as well, but no noises though. I actually have a fecis-like smell emitting from my person (see the thread "I need help"). I firmly believe it has been occuring since I was 15 or 16 (I am 26). I have found that many of the food products you have all mentioned (including alcohol) effect me as well, but in a different way, the smell gets worse. In the morning, after I bm and before I eat or anything, I feel the best. Bms really seem to help, and I typically shower 3 times per day!
Abewow abe, i swear. you and i are the same person. I have the same exact problem. It does help that others have similar symptoms though.
stasia12
12-29-2005, 02:24 PM
you know im really glad i stumbled on this thread
for the past two years ive been having the saem problems
Ive noticed the size and shape of my stool has changed, pls I have the grumbling noises. and let me tell you when you sit in th emiddle of a silent college classroom the noises are very embarassing it sounds as though im passing gas but im not. The noises/feeling starts at my talibone and goes up. In the past , when I ws normal with normal gas etc, I would have gas noises or pains below my belly button area, not here. But its not painful right now, and i dont seem to be passing gas. The stools also, the way they come out usually is in one long piece, Ive never had that way before. Ive also been much more constipated, or if nto constipated, then diarhhea. Ive never ever had problmes with constipation before, always the other way around. Do I have generic IBS or soemthing more serious,i dont know, any advice would help. The noise thing is also very humiliating, as Ive heard students behind me snicker and laugh in class cuz they think I have farted when I havent.
stasia12
12-29-2005, 02:26 PM
i started a detox program yesterday, it contains psyllium, but for some reason i am constipated :confused:
drink more water!!!
RumbleDoll
03-22-2006, 10:31 PM
I have these exact same loud stomach and intestine noises so I understand how horrible they are... even though the few people I have told think I'm being ridiculous to worry about it. I've been able to control mine *to a point*. I'm not totally quiet but the noises are softer and not as frequent - probably as close to normal as I am ever going to get. I even had two meetings this week and didn't make a single sound!
First I did an elimination diet to figure out what foods were bothering me. I suspected it was wheat so I started by eating eggs only and adding in one food at a time. It turns out I am intolerant to all grains so I avoid them as much as possible. Your intolerances will probably be different although milk and wheat are the most common based on all online research I've done over the years.
Second, I take calcium right before breakfast, lunch and dinner. Calcium calms the stomach and slows things down. Do not do this if you are already constipated. In fact, start out with only one or two tablets a day and see if that is enough for you. Any calcium carbonate of 500mg should work, although I've read that a lot of people prefer Caltrate 600 Plus in the purple and white box so I've switched to that.
The third thing I do is to physically force any air from my intestines. I roll up a pillow and lay on the floor with it under my stomach area. I start out with it low and move it several times upwards. Often, as I'm doing this, I will burp very loudly. I do not normally burp or pass gas so this helps a lot.
Sometimes, if I feel bloated, I will also force myself to burp a few times before I go somewhere quiet. I simply contract my stomach muscles and force the air out.
Years ago I dropped out of college due to this problem and I'd really love to go back. I don't feel confident enough yet to do that but my confidence comes back more and more each day. Taking calcium is something I've only done about four months so I'm hoping if my good luck holds out for a few more months, I will be ready to face a quiet classroom by then.
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