Hey Girl...I just had to share this with someone. I ate dinner today and it consisted of three vienna sausages and about 12 pork rines and a little cup of the low carb chocolate milk and GUESS WHAT?!?!?!?!?!
I AM FULL :bouncing: I don't want to eat anything else and I didn't want anymore of what I had. I hope the full feeling stays with me till tomorrow.I swore not to eat after 6:00 pm anyway. I just can't believe I am full :D

:bouncing: :bouncing: :bouncing: YOU GO GIRL!! Resisting McDonalds...don't think I could do it!! I always complain about being home without a car all day, but right now that is really saving my butt!

I ate baked chicken, potatos, and green beans, and it lasted me for a few hours. This time, I just had a small bowl of cereal instead of inhaling every thing in my path. I must really have an addiction to eating at bedtime, cause those cravings are like nothing else I ever feel during the day.

So how does the Atkins food taste? I always think that if they turn a high carb food into a low carb food, it will make it taste funny or gross. Have you found any winners?

Christin...I know exactly what you are talking about with the bedtime cravings. Its like something takes ahold of me and just says every sweet thing in the house EAT IT! or anything good for that matter too. It is much harder later in the night then anytime through the day. Last night I didn't stick with my rule of not eating after 6:00. I was dissapointed in myself but I just couldn't beat the urge. About 11:00 I had some turky and one oreo cookie...thats a no no :nono: for me but I guess one is better than 5.After I ate that one thought I was fine. I think it's something with me that if I say I can't have it well then I gotta have it.

I did find some ok stuff with the Adkins products..The milkshakes aren't to bad kinda a malty taste without the carbs though. I can't stand to drink it just not a whole lot at a time. Which I suppose is good. The chocolate milk I got taste the same. But I expected that. I just tried to find anything chocolate cause thats the main thing I crave so bad. I don't plan to stick with the low/no carb diet forever just till I can actually talk with a doctor or someone in the field that can guide me to healthy eating. I don't know which way to go right now so starting with the low carb thing was my best bet. And it's not all that bad..I can have meat,cheese,tuna,pork skins,eggs,bacon,sausage and all of these things except the tuna I would eat anyway. So hopefully this will jump start weight loss so I can see some improvement and really get motivated with that.

I hope everything is going wonderful for you today!
Take Care :wave:

I do love bacon and eggs, and LOVE cheese...but somehow it isn't the same without the toast or bread! I am just way too addicted to bread. I really like boiled eggs...just the whites, which are pure protein, no fat. Well, I DID like them until I started eating so damn many of them lately! Why is it that I get sick of something that I DO LIKE so quickly when it is healthy, yet for years I could eat pizza every day? :)

I get sick of things easy to when it's what I'm suppose to eat but if I don't have to I want it....I'm crazy as a nutty squirrel :D Maybe its that we know there so so many good foods out there and we are eating this certain food and can't have much of the other good foods....that probably makes no sense at all. I think no blood is going to my brain because I didn't have any pizza...LOL Our mind is something I can never understand because all the while I'm eating something I like I'm thinking about hum I'd like to have something else.

LOL!!! You hit on something there...without pizza, my body says "no blood for you, brain"...I would have been OUT OF MY MIND with pizza in the house...you did SO INCREDIBLY GOOD!!!!

If you haven't read my other post yet...my husband ordered phentermine for me, and it is messing with my head! So now I have these thoughts of...might as well eat whatever I want cause when I get the pills I know I can lose weight fast. That would be the little devil on the one shoulder. On the other shoulder, the angel is saying "You have already come so far in getting your body back on track...don't ruin it all now for a quick fix! You know what will happen when those pills stop working...". AAAUUGGGHH!

Well anyway, I am on track today so far...of course, this time of day is never any problem for me. I think I am going to take the kiddo to the pool here in a little while, maybe some someshine will do my brain some good!

LOL!!! You hit on something there...without pizza, my body says "no blood for you, brain"...I would have been OUT OF MY MIND with pizza in the house...you did SO INCREDIBLY GOOD!!!!

If you haven't read my other post yet...my husband ordered phentermine for me, and it is messing with my head! So now I have these thoughts of...might as well eat whatever I want cause when I get the pills I know I can lose weight fast. That would be the little devil on the one shoulder. On the other shoulder, the angel is saying "You have already come so far in getting your body back on track...don't ruin it all now for a quick fix! You know what will happen when those pills stop working...". AAAUUGGGHH!

Well anyway, I am on track today so far...of course, this time of day is never any problem for me. I think I am going to take the kiddo to the pool here in a little while, maybe some someshine will do my brain some good!Are you actually planning on taking the phentermine? I don't recommend it. Remember - ALL unecessary medications are perceived by your liver as toxins - ultimately hindering the efficiency of your metabolism. You really are better off doing this clean. The best approach is all natural, without drugs and diet aids.

JD...I don't know what I am going to do. I really want to be able to say, nope, not gonna touch it, don't need it. But heck, if I can't be honest here, where can I be? I am really conflicted about what I want to do about this. My husband, bless him, is really just trying to help, he has never dealt well with seeing me in pain...emotional, physical, or otherwise. He wants to fix everything. Part of me is thinking, use the pills to get off a quick 20-30 pounds, to get my body used to not having so much food all the time, and then it would be easier to follow a healthy eating program once I have "taken the edge off". But I know the pills aren't good for me. Anyway, I guess it will take a week or so for them to get here, and I will pray about it until then. That is about as honest as I can be. :)

JD...I don't know what I am going to do. I really want to be able to say, nope, not gonna touch it, don't need it. But heck, if I can't be honest here, where can I be? I am really conflicted about what I want to do about this. My husband, bless him, is really just trying to help, he has never dealt well with seeing me in pain...emotional, physical, or otherwise. He wants to fix everything. Part of me is thinking, use the pills to get off a quick 20-30 pounds, to get my body used to not having so much food all the time, and then it would be easier to follow a healthy eating program once I have "taken the edge off". But I know the pills aren't good for me. Anyway, I guess it will take a week or so for them to get here, and I will pray about it until then. That is about as honest as I can be. :)Hang in there... I will try to get some info for you so you can make an informed decision.

jdimassimo...you have been and are being such a help to me...I can't even express how thankful I am for all of your advice! Please tell me that you are a doctor who lives in Texas...it is so hard to find caring medical professionals! LOL!

Christin, I have asked the mods if I am allowed to post the clinical pharmacology for Phentermine, I am still waiting to hear back. I don't want to get banned for posting info that's not allowed.

Anyway, its important to know a few things about Phentermine. First, it is chemically similar to amphetamine drugs, and equally addictive. It's extremely dangerous to take these meds, and even moreso without doctor supervision. Phentermine works by altering your central nervous system. It is strongly advised that anyone with previous drug addictions NOT take this drug. I saw your post about your previous addiction to pain killers, so I really think this is a bad idea.

Furthermore, there is no evidence that Phentermine is actually effective for treating weight loss. It states this right in the patient information leaflet. In fact in all the studies that have been done, the difference in weight loss between Phentermine and placebo was less than 1 lb per week, and those differences might be attributed to other factors, not the drug. Additionally, all the studies have concluded that Phentermine is most effective during the first 2-3 weeks of usage, and then it's effectiveness tapers off, leaving you with an addiction that you have to deal with.

If the mods pedrmit it, I will post the details...

I know it is a bad idea. I know this. It is just SOOOOO tempting to take an easy "quick start" fix right now. I have taken these pills before, and when they start to lose their effectiveness, I have usually started to abuse them by taking more and more to get the same effect. I am definitely an addict and I know this is a bad idea. I just keep telling myself that I can JUST use them for a month or two to get a lot of weight off FAST and to shrink my appetite, then stop taking them and it will be easier to control my hunger/cravings by then. In theory, this is a good plan!!! That is how they are meant to be used, right? I really do feel like I have the little devil on one shoulder and the little angel on the other and they are both screaming at me right now. I am waiting for an ephiphany (is that the right word) to come...usually if I pray enough and sincerely meditate and am honest with myself, the right answers become so clear. So that is what I am doing.

Thanks for being there for me and for all of your advice...I'll let you know what happens!

I just keep telling myself that I can JUST use them for a month or two to get a lot of weight off FAST and to shrink my appetite, then stop taking them and it will be easier to control my hunger/cravings by then. In theory, this is a good plan!!! That is how they are meant to be used, right? First of all, once the effectiveness of phentermine starts to wear off, taking more of it won't necessarily increase its effectiveness. You need to understand this. The way this drug acts on your central nervous system, it is more likely that an increased dosage might just decrease addictive symptoms, but not actually be more effective.

There is another aspect that I have not mentioned, but if you refer back to the initial plan I offered you, one of the important strategies is eliminating toxins and unnecessary medications. You have to understand that while this drug acts to stimulate the central nervous system, your liver perceives it as a toxin which must be excreted out of your system. This WILL burden your metabolism as it does hinder liver function. I would go as far to say that the negative impact this will have on your success FAR OUTWEIGHS any slight benefit you might realize in a very short-term period.

I am not permitted to post the clinial pharmacology of Phentermine here, so I encourage you to find it and read it on your own. In summary, it states that there have only been short-term clinical trials on this drug and that there is no conclusive evidence that phentermine is in any way more effective in weight loss than placebo. This is the information that is packaged with the drug! The manufacturers just count on the fact that nobody reads it.

Christin.... How are you doing? Its been a few days and wondered how things were going. Please check in and let us know! If you need some motivation, you know where to get it... :)

Hi all! Busy weekend, getting son ready for back to school (starts tomorrow). Still on track, though I did not follow through with my plan to eliminate bread. I did some tweaking to my meal plans, letting me eat a little larger snack after dinner and that has helped a lot. Still incredibly hard and while I do feel less "laziness" when I keep the junk food away, I am still always feeling very weak and sometimes even lightheaded. I am drinking at least 120 oz of water every day and I get decent sleep on most nights. But I feel too weak to try to exercise. Any suggestions?

JD...thanks for the info on phentermine. You are very kind and I like that I can count on you for honest answers and support! Since I do agree with everything you said, yet I still feel so drawn to it, I am thinking that I need to bring this up on the addiction board.

Also, what you said about how my husband might feel about me losing weight...I have often wondered if there could be some truth to that, but I really think in his case, if he does have that fear, that is very subconscious. He is no angel, but I can't believe that he would intentionally try to sabotage any healthy plans I have out of fear of my leaving if I ever become thin. He is very healthy and active, and he hates that I won't participate in activites that he likes because of my health, and he hates how being this unhealthy contributes to my depression. And with every passing year, he is more and more concerned (and so am I!) about the long term health problems that I am going to start having to face.

So, here's to yet another Monday...hoping that this week is easier for everyone!

Still on track, though I did not follow through with my plan to eliminate bread. I did some tweaking to my meal plans, letting me eat a little larger snack after dinner and that has helped a lot. Still incredibly hard and while I do feel less "laziness" when I keep the junk food away, I am still always feeling very weak and sometimes even lightheaded. I am drinking at least 120 oz of water every day and I get decent sleep on most nights. But I feel too weak to try to exercise. Any suggestions?Christin, You should EXPECT to feel lousy the first 2-3 weeks you follow this plan faithfully. You are going to go through a bit of a detox. I recommend that you cut out the bread again, and follow this plan as STRICTLY as you possibly can. Get a calendar and mark your NEW start date with a red marker... then mark the date exactly 3 weeks from your new start date. Keep the calendar out where you an see it... and the end of each day write on the calendar "I made it!" and then write how you felt physically that day.

I would go as far to say that at this point, you might want to temporarily increase your calories by about 250 so you can eat more snacks or larger meals, but ONLY do this if you plan on faithfully adhering to the plan. This would be a measure you can take to get you through the detox phase. Then, when you feel better, you can begin to reduce your calories and focus on weight loss. Right now, you need to focus on detox.

In order to truly detox you need to really commit to omitting ALL chemical additives and preservatives (and anything that contains them, like bread, sauces, diet sodapop, etc), ANY unecessary meds (including phentermine), alcohol, coffee, etc). After the 2-3 week period, you will feel VERY good. Your appetite will greatly diminish, and you will not have these wild cravings and awful symptoms that you are experiencing now.

Try to think of THIS process as the medication that will make you feel better. Once you make it over the initial hurdle, everything will be so much easier for you. The longer you delay cleansing your system, the longer you will feel lousy.

I am just wondering about the diet pop....isn't it ok to drink? I mean its better than what I usually drink as in mountain dew and VERY sweetned tea isn't it?