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denise222
09-24-2004, 10:18 AM
I am 44 and dealing with perimenopause for over a year now. I have been lucky (so far) with the hot flashes and have had a few each month, but not bad. Here is mine:

1. I wake up at 3am, feel like my entire body is on fire and I'm wet with sweat. I stick my head in the freezer and place ice cubes under my boobs.
The hot flash last about 10-15 min.

2. During an average day, all of a sudden I feel hot. It's always from the chest up (never from the waist down) mainly my neck and head. I feel like I am going to melt, it last about 10 min or so. If I'm in the car, I turn the A/C on full blast and let it hit me in the face. (that helps alot)

That's the way the hot flashes feel to me......

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ainfante
09-24-2004, 11:03 AM
Yes, when I first started to get hot flashes, it was as if my body was burning, I had it everywhere, they call them hot flushes instead of flashes. I had this for about 2-3 months, then I would get them on and off, not as frequent. Now they have turned into drench city. It starts like around my breast bone,lower breast bone then rushes up, at least the prozac helped with the power surges, anyways i begin to feel like a heat wave, then I sweat on mychest, under my breasts, face and sometimes scalp. It is more frequent closer to when my period is due, like a week or so before, again my period is late, so here I go again, I even hot flash through my periods now and afterwards. I really don't have too many great days in a month. My PMS is not full-time, LOL

Andrea

joyka
09-24-2004, 05:12 PM
Mine start on the arms and I get warmer and warmer as if someone has turned up the heat. Coffee makes it worse. Polyester clothing seems to also make it worse. At night I wake up and am very warm. I take off the covers for awhile and get cold water to drink. At work, I go to the ice machine and get a huge cup of ice and fill it with water or diet soda (no caffeine). My office is very cold but when I get hot flashes, I generally take off my jacket for awhile. After its gone, its back to freezing. I used to think that something was wrong with the heating system and kept a thermometer on my desk all the time.

noinwi
09-24-2004, 08:08 PM
My whole body turns clammy and at the same time the heat starts in my upper back and rises to my head and face, much like becoming very embarrassed. When the HF's started about 6 years ago(I'm now 53), they were mild but often, several times an hour, lasting 3-5 minutes. I used to call them "moisties" because there wasn't actual sweat, just, well, moisture or clamminess all over my body. But they were so frequent that I went on HRT, which I've been off and on over the years.
These days(without HRT) they're less frequent, once or twice an hour, but they're more intense with profuse sweating from head to toe, still lasting 3-5 minutes. I get really chilled now after it's over.They've always been round the clock, interfering with sleep(blankets on, blankets off, blankets on, etc). I keep little cardboard "fans" all over the house so I can grab one when needed. So much fun!

BonBe
09-25-2004, 07:00 AM
oh my yes it is so much fun isnt it. Here it is end of September and I still have on the ceiling fan in our bedroom. DH is in a pickle, blankets on and off and what not.

It starts in my face (during the day) and goes to my waist, arms included. Yes since a recent (still on going) bout of malignant melanoma for which I have had a rather nasty surgery, and now in follow up treatment, I find that the HF are worse and more frequent.

At night, my legs my back, my boobs my chest, (not face) become drenched causing me to change jammies nightly. Even my feet last night....whew what a night.

I had to have a CT scan the other day, and right in the middle of all that fuss (IV injection, drank gallons of 'contrast material' in the machine I had a HF which elevated my already elevated due to stress (cancer does this) blood pressure they had to stop the CT scan, and I mumbled its ok, just a Hot Flash/Flush/hourly soak haha the poor radiologist guy....

Oh the life of us women....but tis something we do not share with anyone else of the opposite sex...tis all ours...aint we lucky?

Bonnie Lea

Snoshop60
09-25-2004, 10:42 AM
I do really good at night if I lay on my back but when I turn to either side, here they
come. Sometimes it feels as if the HF is coming out my back between my shoulder
blades. I can feel my heart beathing in my back with the HF. I'm 60 and have been
having the HF since I was 45. My doctor told me to use my HRT for three weeks and
then a week off to let my breasts 'rest'. During that week I have to take my blood
pressure medicine but when I get the hormones back in my system, my blood pressure
is normal. I don't know when the fun will be over.

BonBe
09-25-2004, 11:09 AM
ha on a lighter side.... my hubby said (when I tried on my back, even though my back kills me) that the dresser drawers were going in and out, with my snorring!!! well..............I never..........hahha

Soggy sheets, soggy jammies, and other aging female things, and still we keep our humour about us. It will not pay to get all wigged out and grumpy for sure...tis just a fact of life, a phase if you will, (I don't) haha but I am sure it too will pass. There are worse things out there!

Bonnie Lea

whatamess@35
09-25-2004, 12:05 PM
hi ladies
I had a hyst 1 yr ago..i am a 36 yr old mom 2 kids 13 and 17...
I have been going thru surgically induced menopause for the last year!!
Thankfully i am on a pill that works for me now.I dont wake up soaked to the bone anymore...I am paranoid of one hitting in the middle of the night again ,so i wear a thin tank top and undies to sleep in..I cant wear clothes to bed at all!!
I couldnt get back to sleep for nothin after i woke up drenched..I still have them during the day but not as bad...mine start in my knees..i know its weird!!!Then it moves up to my upperbody!! They used to start in my neck but for some reason they always start in my knees!!

qcparks
09-25-2004, 12:20 PM
I am 38 and experience hot flashes lately. I have also visited a hematologist/oncologist in regards to high wbc and high platelet count. He said hot flashes can be caused by a number of things. Since my doctors have checked hormone levels and all is fine, I don't know what causes mine.

But when I have them I feel as if the entire house or area in which I am standing in has increased in temp to about 100 degrees. One day I am unloading groceries and it is 71 outside I thought it was at least 85 because I was so hot I couldn't stand it. I start off with a huge wave of heat and I am instantly burning up, it then goes away in a few minutes. I have had these at least 5 times a day, sometimes more, but rarely does it occur at night.

Kayley
09-25-2004, 01:14 PM
I thought I was weird because my sweats only happen when I lay on my side too! It's good to know I'm not the only one. The other day I went out shopping with my friend and as soon as we got back to my house I started ripping off my clothes.LOL I said "excuse me while I strip" :D Then I just sprawled out under the ceiling fan on my bed and went "Ahhhhh!!!". I've been on HRT for a few weeks and they're getting less frequent but unfortunately I'm still having some.
Kayley

whatamess@35
09-25-2004, 01:34 PM
I recently went to a wedding where i constantly looked like i just stepped outta the shower...It was so imbarrassing..It was a hot day burt nobody else had to carry napkins all day like i did!! We have to watch our caffiene intake and alcohol intake!! Those will make the flashes increase as well..Welcome to womanhiood ladies!! I know not funny!!

BonBe
09-26-2004, 07:52 AM
Hi Kayley

well in my books we must keep a humour about us. Only we women can understand all this stuff. I am not sad by it as some others are...it is a passage of life is all. Wonder what are distant ancestors did when they did not have all the modern aids to help us (in my case ceiling fans) showers, quick doing laundry, not having to plough the fields when our husbands were off hunting for things for us to 'preserve' all that stuff. I bed (never mind what I bet) it has to do with us doing more than tossing slippers at our husbands when they make some buffoonish joke.

BonnieLea

whatamess@35
09-26-2004, 12:48 PM
So true bonbe!!!! My mom, told me her mom had a nervous breakdown!!!
I was very close myself in the begining..I had changed patches too soon and doubled up accidently..I developed severe pain in my legs!! Called doc she says go to E.R. take off patch!! I didnt have blood clots but had severe pain for almost 2 weeks!!I was told dont put another patch on until i went to see her...I went about 4 weeks w/ no hrrt..right after surgery!! I was so mean and depressed..it was terrible!! I actually ended up going to see a phsy doc..I was put on zoloft and trazadone to help me sleep...Once i got my hormones at the right level ..about 3 months later total...I WENT OFF THE ZOLOFT ABND TRAZADONE.. I have a friend that completely freaks out when she has one!!! I tell her welcome to womanhood.We cant change it so only other option is to find the best way to cope and accept that we have a few more years ahead of us~!!

Kayley
09-26-2004, 01:07 PM
That's for sure! It's so nice to have you all to talk to about this. I found something that works well when my face gets all sweaty. Have you all ever tried those oil blotting sheets? I bought some at Sally's and they work much better than Kleenex, although Kleenex will do when they're not around! They totally dry my face, until I start sweating again of course.

I often wonder what our ancestors did too. Of course way back, people didn't live as long as we do so they didn't get to this point. I guess in the early 1900's they must have carried little paper fans everywhere they went. And imagine how they dressed back then with the corsets and all the extra clothes. Ughhh!!!!! Thank goodness for ceiling fans and Air conditioning! I hope you all had a great weekend!
Kayley :)

terry1953
09-30-2004, 10:34 PM
Not sure if this is a hot flash or not.
Last night all of a sudden my face felt hot under the skin, lasted about 20 mins.. My face since looks like I have a sunburn. Forhead is reddish and so are my cheeks. can this me hot flashes/flushes? Terry

virtous
10-01-2004, 12:03 AM
I have been loosing a lot of sleep because I would get hot and throw the covers off of me and I would sleep for a little while, than I would get cold and put the covers back on me. This goes on practically all night a lot of times for me. I can't remember when the last time I had a good night sleep, where I can sleep allnight without any interruptions from hot flashes.

Sweatsister
10-04-2004, 03:47 AM
Full body burn. Some episodes are more head and torso concentrated, but most of the time it's from scalp to toe, a prickly fire. Rivers of sweat. I work at home and my home office is regularly littered with pathetic little semi-circles of abandoned clothing. Going on constantly, night and day. I'm fleeing the bed about once an hour throughout the night to stand in front of a big fan.

I've discovered that if I tip my head down, or move suddenly, I'll have a heat surge. Moving around like a sleepwalking sloth, and keeping my head up when leaning over has reduced the attacks tremendously...but my neck is killing me! Has anyone else noticed this head tipping trigger? Anyone care to experiment?

BonBe
10-04-2004, 07:33 AM
this thread is sooooooo good. Informative even. Yes YES Y E S I find when sudden movements (even in bed, when I am trying to punch up my pillow in a gentle way, it starts. full body sweats I LOVE THAT TERM I hate that it happens. I am also now on two types of nasty medicines, for non related to this thing, and one of the many many possible side effects is that of of hot flash/flush so along with menopause gee.... Yes one poster mentioned laying our side brings them on rather than on our backs (I tried this, though I cannot sleep on my back) and it was true.

Hanging our head over, like you said also starts it happening. In fact typing here now is bringing one one.

my legs touching each other (when laying on my side,) end up feeling like I have been in the shower so flip one leg on top of the covers works briefly, then thbe rest of the body starts. THIS is horrid!!! I am finding (prob since these medications I was forced to take) it is worse.... whew does exhaust me for sure!

I should be SVELT from the amount of sweat I have put out..... but then due to the meds I must take gallons it seems of water.....so I am fighting a losing battle for now.

Bonnie Lea

Sweatsister
10-04-2004, 11:25 AM
We're going to try a little experiment on me today. My husband is going to pick up some motion sickness pills, over-the-counter stuff, to see if it'll make my inner ear less sensitive to the tipping.

I'll check back in with the results!

Sweatsister
10-04-2004, 04:14 PM
It's Working! I'm putting this date on my calendar -
"4th of Oct. 2004 -
Hot Flashes vs. Motion Sickness pills - The Experiment Succeeds!"

So far, so very good!
I took a children's Drammamine (antiemetic) about two hours ago. About half hour after taking it, I started doing some tilt testing. No flashflushes! More tests - leading up to full twirl 'n stop tests. Still no heat!

I expect I'll still have some "background" episodes, but if this trick can really reduce the self-induced tilt episodes I'll be thilled!

Wow, I might even get in a real nap this afternoon...

I'm 45; this started very suddenly in June. I'm nearing 100 days without real sleep. ha-I can't believe I'm getting excited about a nap. Now I *do* feel old! ;-)

BonBe
10-04-2004, 04:32 PM
Great experimenting sweatsister (must find a easier name to call you) SS? haha

Now if that trick can work at night, when laying on our sides, as flopping around like a hot frying fish (or like some vegetables that are being 'sweated' out for optimum flavour ewwwww!

Good going for figuring out what will more than not work for you....and even if you do have your NAP (oh I love naps) always did, and my kids ages 25 and 28 still love naps (when not at work of course)

I say congrats to you for using your ******! N O G G I N

BonnieLea

Sweatsister
10-05-2004, 05:15 AM
Hey, the evening went pretty well. I only got up once during the nap and have only had four outbreaks while working tonight. That's about 25% of what it's been steadily, since this began.

Studying what I was doing during flameouts, and a coincidental conversation with a friend who was having vertigo problems led to trying out the motion sickness idea. His talking about the little granules floating in the inner ear was in the back of my mind. Another friend mentioned the inner ear when I described getting hot flashes from leaning over. I stirred those ideas together and sent my husband out for the Drammamine!

Now to see if I can sleep through the night...

"Sweaty"
;-)

Sweatsister
10-06-2004, 02:49 AM
There's definitely some kind of brain-ear-sweat connection. The motion sickness pills I took contain meclazine. I looked up information on that and on vertigo. There's an interesting crisscross:

From a page about meclizine: ------------------

"...used for the treatment of nausea, vomiting. and dizziness associated with motion sickness. Meclizine is also possibly effective in the treatment of vertigo (balance disorder) related to diseases of the body's balance (vestibular) system."
___________

From a page about vertigo: ---------------

"People experiencing vertigo commonly exhibit other related symptoms including:

- diaphoresis (excessive perspiration)
- ... (list continues) ..."
___________

I'm looking for research into this connection, and, failing that I'll be looking into how to get something started!

The package bears a warning about "prolonged use", however long that is. I'll next experiment with herbs that are also antiemetics.

The hot flashes still come steaming by, but not nearly so many. The meclazine seems to have cut out the ones I'd get from things like leaning over to pick up something from the coffee table, doing laundry, or gardening. There's *lots* of those little leaning over things in a day so it's added up to a lot fewer flashes. I can even type again! I did not manage to sleep the whole night through, but only got up to fan dance half as many times as I have been.

So how common *is* this head tilt=hot flash phenomenon? We haven't heard from anyone else yet...

BonBe
10-06-2004, 07:40 AM
Dear Sweaty-Sister! hahah and everyone else too! :wave:

Should we call you SS? or let me go along and make up things as I go? (hmmm that could prove to be interesting, the names I mean)

I think you are doing a splendid job and it is quite brilliant how you put the two connections together. If it ends up working for the night time ones when we are laying on our sides. I do not like the thoughts of me laying on my back on top of the covers with the cold north wind blowing in our bedroom window (faces north) looking like some demented gingerbread lady all sprawled out in unladylike fashion. Your fan dance is MUCH more genteel haha than my urban sprawled form.

I have had a recent nasty surgery to remove an "evil presence" from between my shoulder blades and just below my 'bending section' of the neck, and thus far am unable to tilt my head forward or backward, but your whole effort is to be commended! truly!

Your work has made perfect sense. (as a person who suffers from sitting in the back seat of a car when it is moving) and taking the odd Gravol for this (unless I fight for the front seat) but sometimes when the third passenger is ones mother (87) then they get first dibs on the front seat, or else they make like little marters haha so I found my doctor said because of the TD stuff I take (thyroid meds) I best be very sure, or better yet take the front seat!

Just before one gets to be sick to the stomach we all get that instant to burst in a hot flash and sometimes sweaty face then we 'hug the bowl' so to me that is why your experiement makes perfect sense. Finding a herbal tea which does the same as gravol products would be great!!!! and maybe even for me before bed!

Bonnie Lea :bouncing: :angel:

pat52
10-12-2004, 02:35 PM
Got a real strange one I think it was a hot flash! I've going through alot of anxiety and panic attacks - dizzy etc.. Been off work for 3weeks now-just hoping I will have a job to go back to. Husband is retired and the insurance will be too expensive.

The attack happened about midnight and my whole body had strange sensation like I took a bath in Icy Hot or Ben Gay! arms, chest and abdomen.

Just turned 52 and boy does it feel like down hill after 50. Read the 35 symptoms of peri menopause and I think I must have 30 ! lol

Crying spells, hot flashes, dizzy, lack of concentration etc..

Dr. Prescribed Lexapro and Xanax. Anyone found other things that have helped?





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