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feloni
10-22-2004, 02:47 PM
To calm yourself from anxiety and panic attacks you have to do your worst and let the anxiety/panic attack tear you apart. It's so simple if you get to understand it, we fight anxiety uncosciously....but the fight is our anxiety/panic attack. Just do your worst. If understand this you'll be free. Trust me, this is no cookie fortune advice. Just say it to yourself in any case, even to calm muscular tension. I can't explain it - it's impossible to explain, but I just gave you the most important piece of the riddle, it's no BS.

hillaryb
10-22-2004, 04:52 PM
Ummm, Ok, also, if I take the blue pill, I leave the matrix??? Or are you suggesting I literally tear myself apart?? lol. This is one of those things that I KIND of get what you are trying to say, but honestly, it makes no sense. Should I instead scream?? Sacrifice my first-born child?? Rip all my hair out?? If it works for you, surely you can elaborate?????? :rolleyes:

hry33
10-22-2004, 06:28 PM
IMO there is some benefit in accepting the panic attacks and anxiety and not fighting back against them, or fearing them but most sufferers need other treatments as well

instead of fighting, accept and float thur it

feloni
10-22-2004, 06:43 PM
It means that instead of trying breathing excersices, taking some pill or going to your therapist you can basically face your fears by simply saying to yourself "do your worst" or something similar. Cuz the panic attacks and anxiety are our own creations, if we understand how they work we can get rid of them. There is no right or wrong answer, so trying won't help you a bit...I know I sound like a monk but it's one of those things I can't really explain. Trying to overcome our problems feed the problems. All of us have this kinaesthesia sensor in our bodies, it's basically our instincs telling us what's right or wrong. When we are kids, we know what's right because we are born with a reliable kinaesthesia - but modern life basically messes it up. Sometimes what we think is wrong is right, and what we thing is right is wrong. Some people blame it on the vision and how much we rely on it, because eyes can really be decieving.

Anyway I'm going way off into its philosophy. Try approaching your anxiety/panic attacks in a completely different direction, something that you know deep inside is WRONG. I thought it was some preaching BS too, well...it ain't...

It's hard to explain, but if you get it it's really easy. Just when you try to control your anxiety, swim against the current and see what happens. I use metaphores cuz I don't know how else would I explain it. All you need is patience and a brain to rationalize.

hilery79
10-22-2004, 07:00 PM
I know what you mean and I agree. I used to suffer from panic attacks, but I haven't had an actual "attack" in a long time. I took pretty much the same approach you described...when I felt an attack coming on, I would just accept it for what it was...try not to fight it and let it pass. It really is simple once you can actually get yourself to "accept" the attacks and know that they can't hurt you. Don't get me wrong...the panic attacks I used to have were definately scary. I used to think "oh my god...I know I'm going to die" and have my husband rush me to the ER. It took awhile, but once I finally realized that the attacks couldn't hurt me... I was able to stop them from happening altogether.

I only wish this same ideology would help my everyday anxiety symptoms. :rolleyes:

Lilolill
10-23-2004, 01:39 AM
OP, you are of course right. My problem is that the "attack" is so incredibly scary, I feel as if I am in another dimension and fear I wont come back that when one happens all rationale goes out the window and I fight it all the way.
I dont even know if it is a panic attack that I experience or what the hell it is, all I know is it is huge. I wish I had the courage to face IT, but for me to do that is to accept that the other place is real and I cannot do that. But I bet if I could, things would be ok. I just dont believe that when they happen they WILL just pass.

junglemonkey
10-23-2004, 09:45 AM
I'm reading a book by Dr Weekes at the moment... This is her preachings. Accept and float through a panic attack, and on some level it makes sense.

Ever started to have a flash of panic then you start going "OMG it's a panic attack! What will I do?!" and worrying and suddenly you're ready to run out the room? It's the fear you add on by being scared and not letting the attack happen that makes it so much worse. By adding fear you make panic worse. I always find when I feel the first twinges, if I can get my head together and get on with things it doesn't develop into a full blown attack. It's all about catching it before it catches you.

It's a long, tiresome process to get to this stage but it's something I'm working on. You have to look down on panic attacks and see them for what they really are. It's difficult to explain but it really does help if not cure panic attacks and suddenly they are much more tolerable and easy to get out of.

hillaryb
10-23-2004, 04:32 PM
Yeah, Id suggest trying anything before meds...Even with the tremendous help they MAY offer (not for me, side effects are completely intolerable) you eventually have to face living your life without the med when it stops working or your doc decides its time to taper off, and anyone reading about withdrawal issues (and I know half the meds are SUPPOSED to be non-addictive but that's not really true) its enough to scare you out of the whole idea of pills. Now wasnt that about the biggest run on sentence ever?? :D

feloni
10-24-2004, 05:08 PM
To relax you don't do anything. The less you do the more dignity within you will feel, feeling dignity will beat the **** out of your anxiety and panic attacks. We make them up, it's not a chemical inbalance or anything like that, we make them up. The more we try the more we get away from our instincs. Trust your instincs not your doctors. Hope I'm making sense.

bluetooth
10-24-2004, 05:12 PM
To relax you don't do anything. The less you do the more dignity within you will feel, feeling dignity will beat the **** out of your anxiety and panic attacks. We make them up, it's not a chemical inbalance or anything like that, we make them up. The more we try the more we get away from our instincs. Trust your instincs not your doctors. Hope I'm making sense.


i did that today!
i was at my job and i was feeling really anxious to the point i was panicking, and i simply said to myself "do your worst" plus some other foul language lol but i shant repeat it
its a good method

feloni
10-24-2004, 06:43 PM
...oh and by trying, I mean - making up your own relaxation techniques. Like breathing and moving your stomach, concentrating on a specific part...man **** that. Breathing is flowing, it's connectintg...you don't concentrate on your stomach and develp breathing techniques, or even counting 1-2-3...let go, 1-2-3, let go. Do you think our ancestors practiced relaxation techniques when they had to hunt bears and ****? NO! They just follow their instincs, see...we try so hard to avoid tension and stress that the actual avoidance is the problem. I honestly think that our instincs is the channel that connects our mind with our body. All of you fools :p stop researching and scream "F***!" when you feel weak and anxious. Instincs, something lost in most advanced societies.

Note - when I say listen to your instincs, don't exaggerate and act like an animal or act like reborn child, just be honest with yourself and it will flow into you. Never exaggerate, this is what I mean by "do your worst".

 
 
 




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