sammieP
10-30-2004, 01:29 PM
Well, i recieved my Vitex chaste berry last week and have been taking three a day since.
I have started to have cramp like symptoms day and night in my ovaries so i assume there starting to wake up (this was before taking vitex) so altogether that will be six months since being off the depo, im not holding out much hope for conceiving this year but early next year would be great, by April hopefully there will be a little something in my belly ;)
I hope you see some change in yourself soon, let me know how its going.
See ya, love sammie :wave:
I have started to have cramp like symptoms day and night in my ovaries so i assume there starting to wake up (this was before taking vitex) so altogether that will be six months since being off the depo, im not holding out much hope for conceiving this year but early next year would be great, by April hopefully there will be a little something in my belly ;)
I hope you see some change in yourself soon, let me know how its going.
See ya, love sammie :wave:
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bronicagirl
10-30-2004, 08:42 PM
hi Sammie, :wave:
was wondering how you were doing. :)
ive been on the vitex for over a week now. dunno what strength yours is? mine is 1000mg 2 a day.
cant say ive noticed any difference with taking it to not taking it. about 3-4 weeks ago i had awful cramps in my left side (now believe it must be where my ovary is), and bloating at the time, which was when i did all those home tests!
then a week ago i got slight pain in the same place agin, but no where near as bad or long.
i wondered if it was my ovaries 'waking up'?
bloating has gone.
can i ask some questions please hun?
when you say thats its six months you have been off depo, is that counting from when you had your last jab? or when the last one was due to run out?
my last one was beginning of April, and was due to run out very end of june.
also, have you been off depo before? if so how long did it take you to get AF back?
in the past it took me 12 months and 18 months before AF returned when i had depo breaks. (interested as i think we are at similar stages symptoms wise, so comparring notes lol)
sorry about all the personal questions and feel free to ignore them if the are too nosy!
pleased to hear from you though as i did wonder how you were doing.
lets hope 2005 will be baby year for us and all the other TTC'ers
Goodluck! :bouncing:
was wondering how you were doing. :)
ive been on the vitex for over a week now. dunno what strength yours is? mine is 1000mg 2 a day.
cant say ive noticed any difference with taking it to not taking it. about 3-4 weeks ago i had awful cramps in my left side (now believe it must be where my ovary is), and bloating at the time, which was when i did all those home tests!
then a week ago i got slight pain in the same place agin, but no where near as bad or long.
i wondered if it was my ovaries 'waking up'?
bloating has gone.
can i ask some questions please hun?
when you say thats its six months you have been off depo, is that counting from when you had your last jab? or when the last one was due to run out?
my last one was beginning of April, and was due to run out very end of june.
also, have you been off depo before? if so how long did it take you to get AF back?
in the past it took me 12 months and 18 months before AF returned when i had depo breaks. (interested as i think we are at similar stages symptoms wise, so comparring notes lol)
sorry about all the personal questions and feel free to ignore them if the are too nosy!
pleased to hear from you though as i did wonder how you were doing.
lets hope 2005 will be baby year for us and all the other TTC'ers
Goodluck! :bouncing:
sammieP
10-31-2004, 01:41 PM
Hey you, well my Vitex is 400mg and im to take 3 a day for 12 weeks and then 1 capsule daily thereafter.
The 1 question - its counting from the day my last injection was due which was the begining of may.
I have never been off depo before so im not sure what to expect but looking at your symptoms we seem to be at the same stage, which is cool as we could end up being pregnant at the same time.
Well good luck to you and keep in touch.
Sounds disgusting but ill let you know when af returns.
Take care hun, love sammie :wave:
The 1 question - its counting from the day my last injection was due which was the begining of may.
I have never been off depo before so im not sure what to expect but looking at your symptoms we seem to be at the same stage, which is cool as we could end up being pregnant at the same time.
Well good luck to you and keep in touch.
Sounds disgusting but ill let you know when af returns.
Take care hun, love sammie :wave:
bronicagirl
11-01-2004, 07:13 PM
Sammie have you had sore boobs?. i have since last night. but its not normal ouch sore, more of a feeling of burning in my left boob only. hurts a lot! feels like a graze/burn
sammieP
11-02-2004, 02:31 PM
Sound nasty, ive had sore burning kind of ouch to touch boobs for the last 12 weeks, i went to the doctors about it and she said it could possibly be pregnancy, to cut a long story short they did a test, i wasnt, it was an after effect of coming off the depo.
That is why i got the tablets as they help with sore boobs and pcos (which i also have!)
How are your boobs now? hopefully the tablets should help though, they seem to have taken the edge off the pain but but not helped with the ovary cramp yet but we will see, takes 12 weeks for the tablets to take effect though! :wave:
That is why i got the tablets as they help with sore boobs and pcos (which i also have!)
How are your boobs now? hopefully the tablets should help though, they seem to have taken the edge off the pain but but not helped with the ovary cramp yet but we will see, takes 12 weeks for the tablets to take effect though! :wave:
bronicagirl
11-06-2004, 07:13 PM
Boobs finally stopped burning after 3 days.
now my hair is falling out at an awful rate (4 hairbrush fulls when i brushed it last!!!!!)
I believe thats a common depo side effect! :(
now my hair is falling out at an awful rate (4 hairbrush fulls when i brushed it last!!!!!)
I believe thats a common depo side effect! :(
sammieP
11-08-2004, 09:47 AM
OMG, i hope my hair doesnt start to fall out! Havent had any more real side effects that i know of, sex drive has gone from being pretty high to being non existant at the moment, dont know why that is though plus i am absolutely shattered, all the time, i just want to sleep at every opportunity, may be too much hard work but ive not been like this before and havent done any extra hours so not sure what thats all about.
Anyhow, keep me up to speed with anymore side effects you may get. Take Care Love sammie :)
Anyhow, keep me up to speed with anymore side effects you may get. Take Care Love sammie :)
bronicagirl
11-08-2004, 02:53 PM
Well i went to doctors today. :mad:
waste of time going.
will tell you about that in a bit.
Anyhow ive been thinking about what side effects ive had since i started on depo. now i know some may not be definately down to the depo but ive found a forum site all on depo and all my symptoms are the same as hundreds of other women:
while on depo:
no periods
gradual weight gain which i cant shift even if my life depends on it (which i suppose it does now ive got so heavy!) ive put on 8 stone. ive not changed my eating habits in that time, and before depo i could loose weight quite easily. i lost 2 stone in 6-7 weeks before hand. now i cant loose it no matter what i do.
plus a small amount of unwanted hair growth in not very girlie places
started to suffer from depression
then most recently suffered from panic attacks.
so while off depo:
all as above plus,
bloating & pregnancy symptoms
burning boob pain
hair falling out rapidly
cramps and 'fluttering'
and now ive gained half a stone in 2 weeks despite eating even healthier than before (ive only just found out off a website that it is actually a form of steroid and also increases appetite by a great degree!!!)
plus developed acid reflux problem because of now being overweight.
so went to docs. he was as much use as a chocolate fireguard. :nono:
he asked me about how my attempts at weighloss were going. got weighed, put on the half a stone i mentioned. he did give me tablets last time to help (they swell up like expanding foam in the tummy to make you feel full up, but it made me feel ill because of the acid reflux)
because of eating problems ive always had, i really dont like most food, so mainly live on wholemeal bread, wholewheat pasta, cheese, cauli, cabbage, potatoes and pork sausages. i get sick of eating the same old food but other stuff makes me feel sick.
so doc says a nutritionalist would be no good for me nor any 'diets'. said i cant have other forms of weightloss pills as they can cause fits.
i cant for the life of me shift this weight! so now doctor said its highly unlikely ill get my AF back as im too overweight.
so it dont look like im ever going to have any children. i just feel so down tonight. been bawling my head off for ages.
why did i ever go on that stuff?! let alone 8 years worth (i asked docs and nurses 100s of times if depo was the cause of weight gain and they kept fobbing me off :( )
sorry to whinge i just feel at rock bottom tonight!
waste of time going.
will tell you about that in a bit.
Anyhow ive been thinking about what side effects ive had since i started on depo. now i know some may not be definately down to the depo but ive found a forum site all on depo and all my symptoms are the same as hundreds of other women:
while on depo:
no periods
gradual weight gain which i cant shift even if my life depends on it (which i suppose it does now ive got so heavy!) ive put on 8 stone. ive not changed my eating habits in that time, and before depo i could loose weight quite easily. i lost 2 stone in 6-7 weeks before hand. now i cant loose it no matter what i do.
plus a small amount of unwanted hair growth in not very girlie places
started to suffer from depression
then most recently suffered from panic attacks.
so while off depo:
all as above plus,
bloating & pregnancy symptoms
burning boob pain
hair falling out rapidly
cramps and 'fluttering'
and now ive gained half a stone in 2 weeks despite eating even healthier than before (ive only just found out off a website that it is actually a form of steroid and also increases appetite by a great degree!!!)
plus developed acid reflux problem because of now being overweight.
so went to docs. he was as much use as a chocolate fireguard. :nono:
he asked me about how my attempts at weighloss were going. got weighed, put on the half a stone i mentioned. he did give me tablets last time to help (they swell up like expanding foam in the tummy to make you feel full up, but it made me feel ill because of the acid reflux)
because of eating problems ive always had, i really dont like most food, so mainly live on wholemeal bread, wholewheat pasta, cheese, cauli, cabbage, potatoes and pork sausages. i get sick of eating the same old food but other stuff makes me feel sick.
so doc says a nutritionalist would be no good for me nor any 'diets'. said i cant have other forms of weightloss pills as they can cause fits.
i cant for the life of me shift this weight! so now doctor said its highly unlikely ill get my AF back as im too overweight.
so it dont look like im ever going to have any children. i just feel so down tonight. been bawling my head off for ages.
why did i ever go on that stuff?! let alone 8 years worth (i asked docs and nurses 100s of times if depo was the cause of weight gain and they kept fobbing me off :( )
sorry to whinge i just feel at rock bottom tonight!
Blastoff9600
11-08-2004, 04:48 PM
First I have to say find another doctor one that will actually listen and talk with you. Second dont give up so easily on having children. It is possible granted it might not happen in the time frame you want but it can happen. It took over three years after my last depo shot was due before I got pregnant with my second son. I have a friend that got pregnant while on Depo but after that child was born she couldnt get pregnant again for hte life of her. It took over 8 years before she actually had her second child.
It is totally understandable that you are down and youhave every right to be and you can whine about it all you want. Lord knows I have been there and I cant tell you how much I hate myself for getting those two loosey shots that I got. One of my lowest times I even told Dh he coudl divorce me and find another woman who was whole and who give him as many kids as he wanted. He just hugged me and told me that would never happen because even if we were only to have our first son he was happy with me and he could be happy with one child.
You need to push your doc or if you get a new doc to have them test everything with you. Especially a full blood panal workup. Such as thyroid and so on. That might be a reason why you arent loosing weight.
Another thing is make sure you are drinking plenty of fluids. You might be surprised at what can happen with your body whenyou are drinking the right about of fluids. You also might want to add some fruit to you diet. I know you said alot of foods make you sick but to be truly healthy and to insure you have a healthy baby you need to make sure you are healthy and that includes what you eat. There are so many wonderful fruits out there that I would be truly surprised if you didnt find something you could eat. I am a huge fan of extoic fruits such as pomagrantes,kiwi,papaya,blood oranges,mangos and so on. See ifyou can try to add some of those. Dont go over board just try a little at a time that way your body can get use to it.
I also found drinking two cups of green tea a day I was loosing weight on that. In two weeks time I lost 5 pounds and all I did was start the green tea. I was shocked to say the least. Another added benefit is it made my EWCM triple what it use to be....lol rather messy result but all the same a good one when one is ttc.
There are down times when it comes to ttc(especailly when you have been trying a long time) you just have to learn to roll through it and keep trying.
Have your down time and even try to use the time for yourself. Unwind,have a drink,read a book,cuddle with your dh,or even have a cry on his shoulder. Make sure you open up to him so he doesnt feel so left out.
It is totally understandable that you are down and youhave every right to be and you can whine about it all you want. Lord knows I have been there and I cant tell you how much I hate myself for getting those two loosey shots that I got. One of my lowest times I even told Dh he coudl divorce me and find another woman who was whole and who give him as many kids as he wanted. He just hugged me and told me that would never happen because even if we were only to have our first son he was happy with me and he could be happy with one child.
You need to push your doc or if you get a new doc to have them test everything with you. Especially a full blood panal workup. Such as thyroid and so on. That might be a reason why you arent loosing weight.
Another thing is make sure you are drinking plenty of fluids. You might be surprised at what can happen with your body whenyou are drinking the right about of fluids. You also might want to add some fruit to you diet. I know you said alot of foods make you sick but to be truly healthy and to insure you have a healthy baby you need to make sure you are healthy and that includes what you eat. There are so many wonderful fruits out there that I would be truly surprised if you didnt find something you could eat. I am a huge fan of extoic fruits such as pomagrantes,kiwi,papaya,blood oranges,mangos and so on. See ifyou can try to add some of those. Dont go over board just try a little at a time that way your body can get use to it.
I also found drinking two cups of green tea a day I was loosing weight on that. In two weeks time I lost 5 pounds and all I did was start the green tea. I was shocked to say the least. Another added benefit is it made my EWCM triple what it use to be....lol rather messy result but all the same a good one when one is ttc.
There are down times when it comes to ttc(especailly when you have been trying a long time) you just have to learn to roll through it and keep trying.
Have your down time and even try to use the time for yourself. Unwind,have a drink,read a book,cuddle with your dh,or even have a cry on his shoulder. Make sure you open up to him so he doesnt feel so left out.
sammieP
11-11-2004, 10:05 AM
Babe im here for you, i know what you mean by the shifting weight, i put on 3 stone since being on that horrible injection then i went to slimming world (ur in England right?) and its taken me 1 1/2 yrs to shift 2 stone and it wasnt that difficult, there are many foods i dont like but i managed to do it with the foods i loved (appart from chocolate and cheesecake lol)
Cry all you want, when i found out that my symoptoms were not pregnancy but side effects i thing i could have flooded gloucester with all my tears! Crying is good for you, well for me it is, it lets out my anger and frustration and then i dont take it out on DH, to his relief.
Go to another doctor, i have found a great one, hes listens, hes understanding and he doesnt beat around the bush, he tells it as it is and thats what i like about him, keep searching untill you find one you can get on with and understands you.
Well i best go as im due in work in fifteen minutes, will drop in on you later, chin up chicken and take care, Love sammie xxx
Cry all you want, when i found out that my symoptoms were not pregnancy but side effects i thing i could have flooded gloucester with all my tears! Crying is good for you, well for me it is, it lets out my anger and frustration and then i dont take it out on DH, to his relief.
Go to another doctor, i have found a great one, hes listens, hes understanding and he doesnt beat around the bush, he tells it as it is and thats what i like about him, keep searching untill you find one you can get on with and understands you.
Well i best go as im due in work in fifteen minutes, will drop in on you later, chin up chicken and take care, Love sammie xxx
bronicagirl
11-11-2004, 06:22 PM
Aww thanks guys xxxxx you cheered me up xx
im in a better frame of mind today lol.
I will definately try the other doctor.
im in a better frame of mind today lol.
I will definately try the other doctor.
sammieP
11-13-2004, 04:24 AM
Let us know how it goes, dont worry about going for a second opinion, hopefully this doctor will be more caring, anyhows catch up with you later.
Sammie ;)
Sammie ;)
sammieP
11-14-2004, 07:23 AM
OMG i have not a clue whats happening to me!
Yesterday i was really tired and not at all with it, i came home from work and DH said jokingly 'your so pathetic when your tired', because believe me i am, and then i started crying and howling like a baby and i couldnt stop, these tears just kept falling and i kept howling, i really dont know why, he hadnt upset me in the slightest, poor chap couldnt do anything right after, as soon as he opend his mouth i started bawling, what is wrong with me? :(
Are my hormones kicking in or is it mega overload with them as depo stopped them? What do you think,.
Hope your well and have sorted out something for the doctors.
Take care, love sammie p ;)
Yesterday i was really tired and not at all with it, i came home from work and DH said jokingly 'your so pathetic when your tired', because believe me i am, and then i started crying and howling like a baby and i couldnt stop, these tears just kept falling and i kept howling, i really dont know why, he hadnt upset me in the slightest, poor chap couldnt do anything right after, as soon as he opend his mouth i started bawling, what is wrong with me? :(
Are my hormones kicking in or is it mega overload with them as depo stopped them? What do you think,.
Hope your well and have sorted out something for the doctors.
Take care, love sammie p ;)
bronicagirl
11-17-2004, 06:30 AM
Hi Sammie :wave:
yeah def sounds like hormones. i often had moments like that on depo, so thats probably your cause.
i had a day like that the other day (well 4 days!) when i did the same, but i thought it was because of loosing my dad in may, but im sure the depo makes me more sensative. when dad was here he would only have to say the slightest thing and id cry like a baby, i turned into a right crybaby! :eek:
most days im having, i wont say really bad pain, but the feeling down there you get when AF is coming.
my memory is getting a bit better again (im told that memory loss or should i say bad memory) is a depo side effect too, i thought i was just getting old! :D
Ive been wondering (i dont know a lot do i! :p ) Chasteberry/agnus/vitex i think helps with ovulation and lutenising hormone? well i wonder if it would be like traditional fertility hormones and increase the chances of twins? :dizzy:
yeah def sounds like hormones. i often had moments like that on depo, so thats probably your cause.
i had a day like that the other day (well 4 days!) when i did the same, but i thought it was because of loosing my dad in may, but im sure the depo makes me more sensative. when dad was here he would only have to say the slightest thing and id cry like a baby, i turned into a right crybaby! :eek:
most days im having, i wont say really bad pain, but the feeling down there you get when AF is coming.
my memory is getting a bit better again (im told that memory loss or should i say bad memory) is a depo side effect too, i thought i was just getting old! :D
Ive been wondering (i dont know a lot do i! :p ) Chasteberry/agnus/vitex i think helps with ovulation and lutenising hormone? well i wonder if it would be like traditional fertility hormones and increase the chances of twins? :dizzy:
bronicagirl
11-19-2004, 02:31 PM
Sammie have you looked into getting one of those fertility microscopes?
Mine just arrived this morning. they cost about £20, and look like a tube of lipstick.
apparently you can tell when you are ovulating via the pattern your saliva leaves why dry. this thing is so simple to use, just lick or wipe lens with a wet finger. push back into tube, leave to dry for 15-20mins then look into illuminated end, and adjust till clear.
ive just read how these things are 98% accurate and somewebsites reckon they are better than/or as good as, charting temperatures.
id never heard of them till i found it 2 days ago, whilst serching for ovulation test strips, but this is re useable for life,bargain!
anyhow you probably already know all about them :)
Mine just arrived this morning. they cost about £20, and look like a tube of lipstick.
apparently you can tell when you are ovulating via the pattern your saliva leaves why dry. this thing is so simple to use, just lick or wipe lens with a wet finger. push back into tube, leave to dry for 15-20mins then look into illuminated end, and adjust till clear.
ive just read how these things are 98% accurate and somewebsites reckon they are better than/or as good as, charting temperatures.
id never heard of them till i found it 2 days ago, whilst serching for ovulation test strips, but this is re useable for life,bargain!
anyhow you probably already know all about them :)
sammieP
11-21-2004, 08:23 AM
Sorry i havent been in touch, been at parents place!
Never heard of those microscopes, are they any good?
Im not sure about the question on the vitex though, i hope they dont increase the chances of twins, im not sure i could cope with two in one go!
I was checking my bb's the other day and they are still so sore, but to top it off i now have hairs growing round that area and dry nipples, i am so not happy, it looks hideous :eek:
anyhow, i hope your well, speak to you soon. :wave:
Never heard of those microscopes, are they any good?
Im not sure about the question on the vitex though, i hope they dont increase the chances of twins, im not sure i could cope with two in one go!
I was checking my bb's the other day and they are still so sore, but to top it off i now have hairs growing round that area and dry nipples, i am so not happy, it looks hideous :eek:
anyhow, i hope your well, speak to you soon. :wave:
sammieP
11-25-2004, 01:27 PM
Hey you, hows it going? Any af yet?
bronicagirl
11-26-2004, 04:52 PM
no :(
you?
you?
bronicagirl
12-04-2004, 09:03 AM
GRRRR! still no AF. had crampy feeling non stop, then none at all for 3 days, now on and off again today. But the worst bit ive put on 5lbs in 2 days, no pigging out nothing! a few weeks ago i put on about 7lbs in 2 days as well, and i havent shifted that at all, and now the extra 5lbs!
why oh why!
random thought too; can chaste/vitex/ agnus affect the results of hpt's?
why oh why!
random thought too; can chaste/vitex/ agnus affect the results of hpt's?
sammieP
12-07-2004, 04:43 PM
No, No af for me either, crampy all the time, temps up and down like a yoyo, not sure whats happening but doesnt look like ill be concieving this year :(
Not sure about the results of the hpt's, why?
Not sure about the results of the hpt's, why?
sammieP
12-10-2004, 06:27 PM
Did a test this morning as had gut feeling! Must have just been something i ate as it was negative, again!!!
Doctors still wont do anything for me till May 05 now so im hoping for af because thats ages to wait.
Anyhow, hows it going with you?
Doctors still wont do anything for me till May 05 now so im hoping for af because thats ages to wait.
Anyhow, hows it going with you?