KimRick 11-09-2004, 04:46 PM IT'S HAPPENED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I just read that Merck has developed a cervical cancer vaccine aimed at strains 16 & 18. They also say that the vaccine would also work for women who are already infected by preventing the actual cancer itself! You'd still be infected, but the cancer wouldn't be there. It also prevents it from spreading! It's due for approval with the FDA next year. We'll have to wait and see what happens!
cocoeyes 11-09-2004, 10:31 PM IT'S HAPPENED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I just read on CNN.com that Merck has developed a cervical cancer vaccine aimed at strains 16 & 18. They also say that the vaccine would also work for women who are already infected by preventing the actual cancer itself! You'd still be infected, but the cancer wouldn't be there. It also prevents it from spreading! It's due for approval with the FDA next year. We'll have to wait and see what happens!
Yep! I was so excited when I saw that news that I got myself suspended for posting the article about it on here.
Good News ladies... Now we can finally stop worrying about pre-cancerious cells and stay up on the vaccine. :bouncing:
KimRick 11-10-2004, 09:41 AM It should go for review by the FDA next year! I'm DEFINITELY getting my daughter vaccinated when she is of age!
Yep! I was so excited when I saw that news that I got myself suspended for posting the article about it on here.
Good News ladies... Now we can finally stop worrying about pre-cancerious cells and stay up on the vaccine. :bouncing:
cocoeyes 11-10-2004, 10:10 AM It should go for review by the FDA next year! I'm DEFINITELY getting my daughter vaccinated when she is of age!
I'm not sure how that works for someone if they alread are infected with the HPV virus that they should be able to take the vaccine still.
KimRick 11-10-2004, 10:44 AM For someone who already has the virus, the vaccine does not kill the virus but it does stop the actual pre-cancers and the actual cancer itself from forming. You'd still be infected, but you wouldn't be contagious and you wouldn't have ANY cancerous/precancerous changes. They are also advising that if you are married, that you're husband/wife receive the same vaccine so that they will not become contagious to you after you've already received your shot. I believe that this vaccination will be administered through booster shots given in a series of every 3 months (I'm not sure about how long).
I'm not sure how that works for someone if they alread are infected with the HPV virus that they should be able to take the vaccine still.
cocoeyes 11-10-2004, 11:43 AM For someone who already has the virus, the vaccine does not kill the virus but it does stop the actual pre-cancers and the actual cancer itself from forming. You'd still be infected, but you wouldn't be contagious and you wouldn't have ANY cancerous/precancerous changes. They are also advising that if you are married, that you're husband/wife receive the same vaccine so that they will not become contagious to you after you've already received your shot. I believe that this vaccination will be administered through booster shots given in a series of every 3 months (I'm not sure about how long).
So if I take the shot and my boyfriend doesn't he can still affect me again?? How so?
That's like saying even if I take the vaccine I can still catch HPV again with a person who doesn't have the vaccine. Or like if I took the hep shot I can still catch Hep C from a person who has it. I'm a little confussed on that.
Well if next year they are going to get FDA approval I read it takes about 22-months for the approval which means the vaccine won't be avaliable until 2007 :( but still hope and good news!
besafe20 11-10-2004, 12:43 PM My husband told me about this last night. How awesome is that! I didn't know that it can help you if you are already infected with the virus though...
cocoeyes 11-10-2004, 01:01 PM Go to cnn.com and research cervical cancer vaccine and read it.
Yeah I feel as though it can help those who are already infected you know. After all there are over 100 types of strains. I had a feeling that we would be able to. :angel: :angel:
Thank God for science.
KimRick 11-10-2004, 01:33 PM :angel: AMEN TO THAT! There's finally hope for our future daughters!
Yeah I feel as though it can help those who are already infected you know. After all there are over 100 types of strains. I had a feeling that we would be able to. :angel: :angel:
Thank God for science.
cocoeyes 11-10-2004, 01:44 PM :angel: AMEN TO THAT! There's finally hope for our future daughters!
And for US as well!
cocoeyes 11-23-2004, 11:37 PM Sorry I had to bump this thread back up!
But are you sure that people already infected will be able to take the vaccine as well to prevent re-occurance with pre-cancerous cells?
KimRick 11-24-2004, 10:04 AM I'm positive - I read it three times on 3 different news websites. Oh, and the reason that they're recommending that your boyfriend/husband have the vaccination too is to prevent any penile cancerous (VERY RARE) conditions from happening to him. But I did read, on the 3rd news website, that they expect the vaccine to be available by the end of the decade :rolleyes: . The other two websites stated that it should be available within a couple of years.
Sorry I had to bump this thread back up!
But are you sure that people already infected will be able to take the vaccine as well to prevent re-occurance with pre-cancerous cells?
cocoeyes 11-24-2004, 12:24 PM I'm positive - I read it three times on 3 different news websites. Oh, and the reason that they're recommending that your boyfriend/husband have the vaccination too is to prevent any penile cancerous (VERY RARE) conditions from happening to him. But I did read, on the 3rd news website, that they expect the vaccine to be available by the end of the decade :rolleyes: . The other two websites stated that it should be available within a couple of years.
That's the confusing part of it... There are two teams targeting towards the vaccine and one side is only targeting towards younger generations and the other is targeting for 4 of the strains.. Which are warts and 16 and 18 rights? The end of the decade? No I hear more like around 2006.
KimRick 11-24-2004, 01:14 PM I heard 2006 too - oh who the he** knows?! I do know that when it does become available that I do want my daughter (8) and step son (9) to be vaccinated.
That's the confusing part of it... There are two teams targeting towards the vaccine and one side is only targeting towards younger generations and the other is targeting for 4 of the strains.. Which are warts and 16 and 18 rights? The end of the decade? No I hear more like around 2006.
cocoeyes 11-25-2004, 11:08 PM I heard 2006 too - oh who the he** knows?! I do know that when it does become available that I do want my daughter (8) and step son (9) to be vaccinated.
Thanks! I feel like this is a slap in HPV's face or something. Not too many people posting under this subject but you and I... I don't think too many pepole who have this diesease thinks this vaccine will benefit for us.
KimRick 11-26-2004, 10:58 AM we'll have to wait and see when it comes out. . .
Thanks! I feel like this is a slap in HPV's face or something. Not too many people posting under this subject but you and I... I don't think too many pepole who have this diesease thinks this vaccine will benefit for us.
Monroe123 11-30-2004, 01:53 PM Actually, while the vaccine is in production and can help to erradicate cervical cancer, according to the New England Journal of Medicine study on the vaccine, "There are no data showing that vaccines based on papillomavirus-virus-like particles provide postinfection protection against either persistent infection or lesions" meaning that there is no data that proves the vaccine will help those already infected with HPV. And it is going to be submitted for FDA approval by 2006, but actually getting the approval is another thing entirely. Many don't expect to have the vaccine until near the end of this decade.
However, there is a test, the DNAwithPap Test that detects the presence of HPV. That used in conjunction with the Pap increases the ability to detect HPV to nearly 100% - which means that the precancerous cells can be caught in enough time to prevent cervical cancer. Thus - we can still erradicate cervical cancer NOW. :) We don't need to wait 10 years. But you need to ask your doctor for the test. Go to www.thehpvtest.com to find out more. it's FDA approved for women 30+.
cocoeyes 11-30-2004, 04:00 PM Actually, while the vaccine is in production and can help to erradicate cervical cancer, according to the New England Journal of Medicine study on the vaccine, "There are no data showing that vaccines based on papillomavirus-virus-like particles provide postinfection protection against either persistent infection or lesions" meaning that there is no data that proves the vaccine will help those already infected with HPV. And it is going to be submitted for FDA approval by 2006, but actually getting the approval is another thing entirely. Many don't expect to have the vaccine until near the end of this decade.
However, there is a test, the DNAwithPap Test that detects the presence of HPV. That used in conjunction with the Pap increases the ability to detect HPV to nearly 100% - which means that the precancerous cells can be caught in enough time to prevent cervical cancer. Thus - we can still erradicate cervical cancer NOW. :) We don't need to wait 10 years. But you need to ask your doctor for the test. Go to www.thehpvtest.com to find out more. it's FDA approved for women 30+.
That is true but according to Merc (The person who will probably be the first to get his on the market) say's that it may help those already infected... Doesn’t it make sense?
There are guys who are walking around infected and don't know they are infected with the high-Risk strains who will get the vaccine as well being that there is no test and with the false and negatives of it. It's an immune booster in a way and since HPV can live dormant for years why not take it??
That is true that we can eliminate cervical cancer through doctors but... There are some ladies who have not had kids yet and with each treatment to the cervix to get rid of those bad cells can hinder it. That's why there are so many woman excited about wanting to take the vaccine. IMO
I also here it only take about 22-months for it the become FDA approved.
Monroe123 12-01-2004, 10:34 AM The only person quoted as saying the vaccine MIGHT help those already infected, is actually a researcher from Wyeth. "Giving the vaccine to men would not only prevent disease in them but also would prevent infections in their partners, said Steven Projan, a drug development expert with Wyeth who helped review research for the microbiology meeting. The vaccine also might prevent women already infected with HPV from developing cancer, he said." When he says giving the vaccine to men - he means men that aren't already currently infected...
I just don't want women who are already infected to have false hope - because there is NO data that shows the vaccine will help those already infected. They should continue to see their doctors and get the prorper procedures rather than waiting for this vaccine. Think of it this way... if you chicken pox.. the vaccine doesn't cure it or make it go away. It only helps if you have the vaccine before you get chicken pox.
As for fda approval, vaccine approval is the most difficult to get. If they applay for approval in 2006, it's likely that they will get an approvable letter within 22 months, meaning they will have to meet certain guidelines in order to get full FDA approval - which can take another several years.
KimRick 12-01-2004, 11:21 AM I've read on both Merck & Pfizer (I think that's the other one) plus 3 different, reputable news websites and all 5 have stated that the vaccine will help others already infected by preventing the disease from spreading & stopping the precancers from forming to actual cancer. I guess we'll all just have to wait and see what happen for sure. As a matter of fact, I DEFINITELY know that I read that this was the first vaccine of it's kind that actually prevents cancer.
QUOTE=Monroe123]The only person quoted as saying the vaccine MIGHT help those already infected, is actually a researcher from Wyeth. "Giving the vaccine to men would not only prevent disease in them but also would prevent infections in their partners, said Steven Projan, a drug development expert with Wyeth who helped review research for the microbiology meeting. The vaccine also might prevent women already infected with HPV from developing cancer, he said." When he says giving the vaccine to men - he means men that aren't already currently infected...
I just don't want women who are already infected to have false hope - because there is NO data that shows the vaccine will help those already infected. They should continue to see their doctors and get the prorper procedures rather than waiting for this vaccine. Think of it this way... if you chicken pox.. the vaccine doesn't cure it or make it go away. It only helps if you have the vaccine before you get chicken pox.
As for fda approval, vaccine approval is the most difficult to get. If they applay for approval in 2006, it's likely that they will get an approvable letter within 22 months, meaning they will have to meet certain guidelines in order to get full FDA approval - which can take another several years.[/QUOTE]
Monroe123 12-01-2004, 11:42 AM The other company is GlaxoSmithKline. The reputable news sites you mention are most likely just posting the same AP story, with the same quote from the guy from Wyeth. The article on WebMD states that the vaccine DOES NOT help those already infected - "That's because the vaccine only provides cervical cancer protection for women who have not been exposed to HPV, and it only protects against the two strains in the vaccine, HPV 16 and HPV 18." (http://my.webmd.com/content/Article/97/103992.htm?pagenumber=2) and I spoke with Diane Harper, the lead investigator on the Lancet Study of the vaccine who also states "the prophylactic HPV vaccines published in the Lancet are not helpful for already established infections."
I couldn't find anything on the Merck site or the GSK site to combat this. I would be curious to see their findings however - so if you could give me the link to what you read - that woudl be wonderful.
I wish this was a miracle vaccine - but as it is now - it will only help those not already infected with HPV, which is a great step forward. If all our children get the vaccine - there will be a great impact. However for now.. in the present - women should be out their getting the HPV test along with their pap and doing the proper procedures and taking the proper precautions. there is no reason to wait. we can start erradicating cervical cancer today.
cocoeyes 12-01-2004, 05:27 PM The other company is GlaxoSmithKline. The reputable news sites you mention are most likely just posting the same AP story, with the same quote from the guy from Wyeth. The article on WebMD states that the vaccine DOES NOT help those already infected - "That's because the vaccine only provides cervical cancer protection for women who have not been exposed to HPV, and it only protects against the two strains in the vaccine, HPV 16 and HPV 18." (http://my.webmd.com/content/Article/97/103992.htm?pagenumber=2) and I spoke with Diane Harper, the lead investigator on the Lancet Study of the vaccine who also states "the prophylactic HPV vaccines published in the Lancet are not helpful for already established infections."
I couldn't find anything on the Merck site or the GSK site to combat this. I would be curious to see their findings however - so if you could give me the link to what you read - that woudl be wonderful.
I wish this was a miracle vaccine - but as it is now - it will only help those not already infected with HPV, which is a great step forward. If all our children get the vaccine - there will be a great impact. However for now.. in the present - women should be out their getting the HPV test along with their pap and doing the proper procedures and taking the proper precautions. there is no reason to wait. we can start erradicating cervical cancer today.
Who would actually stop getting there paps and wait until the vaccine comes out?? That's beyond my imagination that someone would actually do that...
I'm sorry, but I am one suffering from this and I would like to believe that I will get this vaccine and benefit from it until I hear NO IT WON"T benifit once this vaccine comes out.
You can't post Links on here...
KimRick 12-02-2004, 10:07 AM I agree. Until One of these scientific research companies comes out and publicly states that the only people that would benefit are those who aren't infected, I'm holding up hope! My daughter will receive the vaccine - regardless!
Who would actually stop getting there paps and wait until the vaccine comes out?? That's beyond my imagination that someone would actually do that...
I'm sorry, but I am one suffering from this and I would like to believe that I will get this vaccine and benefit from it until I hear NO IT WON"T benifit once this vaccine comes out.
You can't post Links on here...
Sugarhi16 01-10-2005, 08:16 PM I wanted to bump this thread back up after having a talk with my Doctor. He said he just received a medical journal today that talked about this vaccine. He told me that it basically said that no matter how severe the dysplasia is our body still tries to build up anitbodies to it and fight it off. This vaccine will help those infected by giving us more antibodies to prevent reoccurance and it may even rid our bodies of it entirely! He said it may still be a few years before it's available, but it's a step in the right direction! Just wanted to share the good news with all of you! :bouncing:
cocoeyes 01-11-2005, 08:17 PM I wanted to bump this thread back up after having a talk with my Doctor. He said he just received a medical journal today that talked about this vaccine. He told me that it basically said that no matter how severe the dysplasia is our body still tries to build up anitbodies to it and fight it off. This vaccine will help those infected by giving us more antibodies to prevent reoccurance and it may even rid our bodies of it entirely! He said it may still be a few years before it's available, but it's a step in the right direction! Just wanted to share the good news with all of you! :bouncing:
Sounds like music to my ears... I want to discuss this with my doctor also but I don't want to debate with her on this issue of it not helping those already infected.
Sugarhi16 01-11-2005, 09:57 PM I just realized that I should make this clear since I didn't in my orginal post. He said it can cure, but it might not cure those who are infected. But it will definately help our bodies more efficiently fight it off so we will be able to live dysplasia and cancer free with the virus in our systems. Either way, it will still be a big help to us!
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