Deezy
09-27-2003, 02:43 AM
After a successful hemorrhoidectomy in May 2003, I now have to have a sphincterotomy. I have serious pain when I have a bowel movement and that is sometimes twice a day! OUCH... I break out in a cold sweat when I feel the urge. Despite fiber, diet, exercise and drinking water, I can't stay "Not Constipated". Has anyone had this done? I guess they cut the muscle. I am afraid of permanent incontinence. Since I just had a surgery for the hemorrhoids, I am not looking forward to this pain again, but feel I have no choice. The recover period was painful for me. And, as luck would have it, painkillers add to the possibility of being constipated too! (Vicadin) What is a girl to do? I am 45 and want to start living again. I have been in pain for over a year now.
Any suggestions/advice/support would be appreciated. Ready all your posts have inspired me and realize that I am not the only one going through agony.
Prayers to all of you,
Deezy
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Deezy
Any suggestions/advice/support would be appreciated. Ready all your posts have inspired me and realize that I am not the only one going through agony.
Prayers to all of you,
Deezy
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Deezy
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runninggal
09-27-2003, 06:20 PM
Hi Deezy,
I had a sphincterotomy, hemorrhoidectomy, and a fissurectomy, all done simultaneously. Of all these procedures, it is the hemorrhoidectomy that is the real killer.
I think you are going to find the sphincterotomy much easier to recover from. The pain is no where near that of a hemorrhoidectomy and the healing time is quite fast.
Although I did have significant problems with incontinence in the first few weeks after my surgery, this resolved itself and I no longer have this issue.
I have had my sphninter muscle tone checked and it is totally normal.
Did your doctor diagnose you with post-operative anal stenosis?
I had a sphincterotomy, hemorrhoidectomy, and a fissurectomy, all done simultaneously. Of all these procedures, it is the hemorrhoidectomy that is the real killer.
I think you are going to find the sphincterotomy much easier to recover from. The pain is no where near that of a hemorrhoidectomy and the healing time is quite fast.
Although I did have significant problems with incontinence in the first few weeks after my surgery, this resolved itself and I no longer have this issue.
I have had my sphninter muscle tone checked and it is totally normal.
Did your doctor diagnose you with post-operative anal stenosis?
Harry
09-30-2003, 10:37 AM
Deezy,
I think like many people that have had hemorrhoid surgery --- you just have to keep your stool soft and I do that with psyllium water soluble fiber supplement --- Equate from Wal Mart. Some people add Colace - a stool softener-- but I have never used it. You may want to try them before surgery just to make sure they work for you.
As you know the pain of hemorrhoid surgery is pretty bad. My first stool felt like I had a stool of broken glass. You never forget it was bad but I am certainly glad your body does not remember the real pain.
I wish you well with your surgery!!!
God Bless---Harry
I think like many people that have had hemorrhoid surgery --- you just have to keep your stool soft and I do that with psyllium water soluble fiber supplement --- Equate from Wal Mart. Some people add Colace - a stool softener-- but I have never used it. You may want to try them before surgery just to make sure they work for you.
As you know the pain of hemorrhoid surgery is pretty bad. My first stool felt like I had a stool of broken glass. You never forget it was bad but I am certainly glad your body does not remember the real pain.
I wish you well with your surgery!!!
God Bless---Harry
Deezy
10-05-2003, 01:24 AM
Thanks for all of your support and information. My sphincterotomy is scheduled for October 17 2003. I can barely spell it, let alone have one done. I am scared to death! Is the pain going to be unbearable or even worse than the hemorrhoidectomy? Currently, I have one bowel movement a day and it is bearable, but afterward the thropping last for about eight hours. It is so painful, sometimes I can't even see straight. It is a nagging and constant throbbing pain. I can't wait until this is all over, so I can try to lead a normal life. I feel blessed to have all of you who care enough to write me back. I know I must sound like a big chicken, but I can't help it. The last time I had the surgery for the hemorrhoids was May 2, ,2003. My doc had me using vicodin for pain. Then, by the time I had the surgery the vicodin was not effective. So, after the anesthesia wore off, I felt no relief from the pain meds because my body was used to them. This time, I have refused to take any vicadin because I do not want to become immune to them nor do I need the constipation. Any suggestions/comments are welcome. I appreciate you all!
Scared...Deezy
Scared...Deezy
Harry
10-05-2003, 10:58 AM
Deezy,
I am a big believer in taking a water soluble fiber for a gentle BM without much straining. Between now and your surgery just make sure you adjust the doses so your BMs are OK.
Other than using a stool softener that all I can suggest.
God Bless---Harry
I am a big believer in taking a water soluble fiber for a gentle BM without much straining. Between now and your surgery just make sure you adjust the doses so your BMs are OK.
Other than using a stool softener that all I can suggest.
God Bless---Harry
Deezy
10-08-2003, 01:26 AM
Harry,
I really appreciate your input. I would like to hear from others who have had a sphincterotomys. I am hoping that it will not be as painful as the hemorroidhectomy was.
Thanks again.
Deezy
I really appreciate your input. I would like to hear from others who have had a sphincterotomys. I am hoping that it will not be as painful as the hemorroidhectomy was.
Thanks again.
Deezy
mrse
10-08-2003, 09:44 AM
Hey Deezy! I had a sphincterotomy August 29th. I will tell you now, it really wasn't that bad. I had absolutely NO incontinence afterwards. Don' get me wrong, when I came out of the surgery I was feeling great. I came home thinking, "Wow, not so bad". Then, whatever they used to numb the area wore off and I was praying for death! The hitch is, my surgeon had to remove a large internal hemorrhoid that happened to be right on the fissure. So the pain I was feeling was inside. The sphincterotomy really did not give me much pain. I will give you a wonderful pain reducer.....sitz bath. As soon as you are able, usually the next day after surgery, sit in a warm tub. NOT HOT, more towards warm/cool. It brings such relief. As soon as you feel the urge to go to the bathroom, run the tub so that as soon as you are finished you can soak for 15-20 minutes. This brought me more relief than any painkiller. I did have Lortab 10/500 prescribed and that helped the 1st couple of days as far as allowing me to sleep through pain. As you have said painkillers can constipate although I never had that problem with this one. Anyway, I also had 2 metamucil apple/cinnamon wafers (they actually taste good!) and 3 colace capsules with 2 glasses of water for breakfast. The first 5 days I had Mom's homemade chicken soup for lunch that I swear saved my life. I had soft, self propelled BM's and I truly believe in the healing properties in the soup. After the 1st week I was really feeling 90% better and the only discomfort I had was from the hemmorhoidectomy, never the sphincterotomy! Metamucil and colace and sitz baths! Worked for me. As you will find on this board, everyone is different and you have to find what works for you. I can only suggest! I'll be praying for you and hope you have as great a recovery as I did.
Deezy
10-09-2003, 01:23 AM
MRSE:
I enjoyed ( to the best of my ability) reading your email. It helps so much to hear from people who have gone through what I am about to go through. You have no idea. Currently, I begin to get a panic attack when I feel "the urge" because I know there will be so much pain. I am looking forward to my surgery, but not the post surgery. I remember when I had my hemorrhoidectomy, I also came home and thought...Hmmm..not too bad! and then, WHAMMY!! I was on vicadin for two months prior to my surgery so that nor the Percocet did any good unless I took three or so and I rarely did that because I did not want the constipation. What are Metamucil apple/cinnamon wafers? I never heard of them? Can you get them in a regular store? I have been using Surfak, stool softener,Docusate Calcium,liquid gels. They seem to work OK? Does anyone know of a better type? They are 240 mg,but I only take one. I wonder if I should take more? My husband is going to get me some homemade chicken soup from the Jewish Deli down the road. It is great! Thanks for the tip on that. I know how it feels to need a sitz bath. When I had my hemorrhoidectomy last May I did the same thing. Run the bath prior to the bowel movement, because there was no time to wait. Now, I run a bath and break out in a cold sweat. I think I almost turned into a prune after my surgery for the hemorrhoids. I am completely healed from that. Luckily, I only work three minutes from home, because I would have to come home to have a BM. I remember the first time I had a BM in the ladies room at work without too much pain. I was so proud of myself. Anyway...thanks for letting me vent and for keeping my in your prayers. I enjoyed your email and it gave me hope. Sincerely, Deezy
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Deezy
I enjoyed ( to the best of my ability) reading your email. It helps so much to hear from people who have gone through what I am about to go through. You have no idea. Currently, I begin to get a panic attack when I feel "the urge" because I know there will be so much pain. I am looking forward to my surgery, but not the post surgery. I remember when I had my hemorrhoidectomy, I also came home and thought...Hmmm..not too bad! and then, WHAMMY!! I was on vicadin for two months prior to my surgery so that nor the Percocet did any good unless I took three or so and I rarely did that because I did not want the constipation. What are Metamucil apple/cinnamon wafers? I never heard of them? Can you get them in a regular store? I have been using Surfak, stool softener,Docusate Calcium,liquid gels. They seem to work OK? Does anyone know of a better type? They are 240 mg,but I only take one. I wonder if I should take more? My husband is going to get me some homemade chicken soup from the Jewish Deli down the road. It is great! Thanks for the tip on that. I know how it feels to need a sitz bath. When I had my hemorrhoidectomy last May I did the same thing. Run the bath prior to the bowel movement, because there was no time to wait. Now, I run a bath and break out in a cold sweat. I think I almost turned into a prune after my surgery for the hemorrhoids. I am completely healed from that. Luckily, I only work three minutes from home, because I would have to come home to have a BM. I remember the first time I had a BM in the ladies room at work without too much pain. I was so proud of myself. Anyway...thanks for letting me vent and for keeping my in your prayers. I enjoyed your email and it gave me hope. Sincerely, Deezy
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mrse
10-09-2003, 09:51 AM
Deezy, you are going to be just fine. Trust me when I tell you, barring any complications, a sphincterotomy is a walk in the park compared to a hemorrhoidectomy and you got through that! Metamucil wafers are in every store that sells metamucil. I get mine right in the supermarket but Eckerds, Walgreens, etc all carry them. They are like little cookies and they come in packages of 2 in a box of maybe 30. They are much easier to get down then the powder and I don't find the pills work as well. Just make sure to drink the water with them. The soup is great for moving things along, I think it's the natural oil in the chicken when you boil it which is why homemade without skimming the fat is best. I'm sure the Jewish deli is homemade as well but hopefully they didn't skim the fat. It's a great thing to keep in the refrigerator for after your surgery. You'll be afraid to eat too much the first couple of days for fear of going to the bathroom but as you know, you have to eat. The soup has protein, veggies, water and oil. Make a big pot and keep it in there. If you need a recipe let me know. Real simple! Another great tip I got from the boards is to put a big dab of vaseline on your butt right before you go. Not inside, cause that would hurt right after surgery, but on the outside. It really protects from the burning and throbbing after a BM. Sounds simple and it is. I had a huge problem with burning and someone suggested it and from that day on I was never in pain again. Just leave it on for about a minute or so afterwards than use a moist towelette or cotton ball to remove it. I am now about 6 weeks post-op and doing great. I can tell you I had 1 minor set back and it was because I assumed since I was feeling better I could stop the metamucil and colace. BIG mistake! I may need it forever but it's a small price to pay for never having that pain again. I dealt with fissures for about 5 years on and off and the last bout started July 4th. I was in agony until the day of the surgery and can relate to the cold sweat at the thought of going to the bathroom. The surgery was totally worth it for me. It seems like a distant memory now. You'll be so happy you did this when you can go to the bathroom again without actually thinking about it....like normal people!
Deezy
10-12-2003, 01:45 AM
My surgery is coming near and I can't wait because my life is on hold for the past six months. I am in pain each BM and I hope that when I recover, I can live a more normal life, as I did before. I will get the Metamucil wafers tomorrow, so that they are on hand. I would love your chicken soup recipe, because I don't have a good one. You are great to help! When I had my hemorrhoidectomy I had a problem eating. I would nibble on anything and have to go to the bathroom. I lost a few pounds, which was the only good part.
I like the Vaseline tip. I am definately going to use that one. I never thought of it? So did you go back to work? I will have three weeks off and then go back, only if I can. I have a desk job, so I do not have to do anything strenuos. Do you really think we will need the fiber forever? I guess so, huh? Yes, small price to pay.
Did you ever use the nytro for the fissure? That seemed to help me for a while, but now I think it came back. Well, I can't wait for my surgery. I will keep you posted. I am a little nervous this time, because I know what to expect as far as pain goes. In May, when I had the Hemorrhoidectomy, I was unaware. I thought I was going to die! I have a low tolerance for pain. But, I need to suck it up and have this done so I can recover. Thanks again for your support. I love reading your emails. They make me realize that if you can do it, so can I! (smile) Enjoy your day...
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I like the Vaseline tip. I am definately going to use that one. I never thought of it? So did you go back to work? I will have three weeks off and then go back, only if I can. I have a desk job, so I do not have to do anything strenuos. Do you really think we will need the fiber forever? I guess so, huh? Yes, small price to pay.
Did you ever use the nytro for the fissure? That seemed to help me for a while, but now I think it came back. Well, I can't wait for my surgery. I will keep you posted. I am a little nervous this time, because I know what to expect as far as pain goes. In May, when I had the Hemorrhoidectomy, I was unaware. I thought I was going to die! I have a low tolerance for pain. But, I need to suck it up and have this done so I can recover. Thanks again for your support. I love reading your emails. They make me realize that if you can do it, so can I! (smile) Enjoy your day...
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Harry
10-12-2003, 02:16 AM
Deezy,
Your intestines need fiber to function properly --- Lack of fiber in your diet is the major reason for hemorrhoids and the problem you have now !!!
Yes -- you'll alway need fiber and I'm sure you're becoming more aware of it. It's not a price you pay-- it's a healthy thing to do since your diet is not properly balanced.
God Bless---Harry
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Your intestines need fiber to function properly --- Lack of fiber in your diet is the major reason for hemorrhoids and the problem you have now !!!
Yes -- you'll alway need fiber and I'm sure you're becoming more aware of it. It's not a price you pay-- it's a healthy thing to do since your diet is not properly balanced.
God Bless---Harry
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Deezy
10-12-2003, 03:22 AM
Yes Harry, you are right. I have no problems with the fiber, I just want to be well and be able to lead a normal life. My next step, after my surgery, is to get my Anemia in check. I am very anemic and the fatigue is killing me.
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mrse
10-14-2003, 09:43 AM
Hey Deezy! I am really thinking that you are expecting way too much pain! In a way that's good because I think you will be happily surprised. Not to say it will be a cakewalk but much easier than the hemorrhoidectomy. As far as the soup, here is the recipe, super easy!
Buy 1 whole chicken, a bag of carrots, a bag of celery, and an onion or 2. Fill a large pot about halfway with water. Cut your onions into quarters or eighths (depending on the size of the onion) and add to the pot. Put the chicken in and bring it to a boil. When it starts to boil, lower the heat a bit to keep it to a slow boil. Peel and slice your carrots to bite size pieces, (not too small or they fall apart) and add them to the pot. Slice your celery and add that in about 10 minutes (it cooks faster). I always add about 4-6 chicken bouillion cubes for color and a little extra flavor. Salt and pepper and a little fresh or dried parsley. Let it cook for about a 1/2 hour-45minutes. Turn off the heat and take the chicken out. It may break apart a little so make sure you get it all out. Remove all the bones and skin now and cut the chicken into soup sized pieces. Cooking with the skin on is what gives the soup the fat and I truly believe that is what helps keep things moving while you are recovering. It is also a nice light meal with good nutritional value at a time when you may not be too hungry. Usually I would serve over bowtie pasta, but when you are recovering it is a good idea to stay away from a lot of carbs. Yes, it's a little high on the sodium side and you can cut some of the salt if you're a health nut. I personally prefer taste! lol. I would make this a day or 2 before your surgery and keep it in the refrigerator. If you make a huge pot (I always do) you can freeze some. The key is a to let the chicken boil for a while to get all the fat out of the skin and of course cook the chicken.
Anyway, I haven't been taking my metamucil regularly, although I always swear I will. I find it is much more difficult without it. I don't know why I don't just do it. Stubborn I guess. It just keeps you so regular especially combined with the colace. I do get a little crampy from the colace for an hour or so after I take it so I guess that's why I'm not consistent.
I pray that you recover quickly and without complications. I know you will. And you will be pleasantly surprised by the difference in the level of pain from what you had before. You will feel better after the surgery than you did before it!
(Now keep telling yourself that! lol) Talk to you soon.
Buy 1 whole chicken, a bag of carrots, a bag of celery, and an onion or 2. Fill a large pot about halfway with water. Cut your onions into quarters or eighths (depending on the size of the onion) and add to the pot. Put the chicken in and bring it to a boil. When it starts to boil, lower the heat a bit to keep it to a slow boil. Peel and slice your carrots to bite size pieces, (not too small or they fall apart) and add them to the pot. Slice your celery and add that in about 10 minutes (it cooks faster). I always add about 4-6 chicken bouillion cubes for color and a little extra flavor. Salt and pepper and a little fresh or dried parsley. Let it cook for about a 1/2 hour-45minutes. Turn off the heat and take the chicken out. It may break apart a little so make sure you get it all out. Remove all the bones and skin now and cut the chicken into soup sized pieces. Cooking with the skin on is what gives the soup the fat and I truly believe that is what helps keep things moving while you are recovering. It is also a nice light meal with good nutritional value at a time when you may not be too hungry. Usually I would serve over bowtie pasta, but when you are recovering it is a good idea to stay away from a lot of carbs. Yes, it's a little high on the sodium side and you can cut some of the salt if you're a health nut. I personally prefer taste! lol. I would make this a day or 2 before your surgery and keep it in the refrigerator. If you make a huge pot (I always do) you can freeze some. The key is a to let the chicken boil for a while to get all the fat out of the skin and of course cook the chicken.
Anyway, I haven't been taking my metamucil regularly, although I always swear I will. I find it is much more difficult without it. I don't know why I don't just do it. Stubborn I guess. It just keeps you so regular especially combined with the colace. I do get a little crampy from the colace for an hour or so after I take it so I guess that's why I'm not consistent.
I pray that you recover quickly and without complications. I know you will. And you will be pleasantly surprised by the difference in the level of pain from what you had before. You will feel better after the surgery than you did before it!
(Now keep telling yourself that! lol) Talk to you soon.
Deezy
10-16-2003, 06:17 AM
mrse:
I hope it is much easier than the hemorrhoidectomy. That was no fun. I guess I have such a low tolerance for pain and ok...let's face it...I am just a CHICKEN!! (smile) Should I put myself in this lovely soup recipe you gave me? I will definately make it tomrrow. My surgery is Friday. I will be happy when it is over. I am working up until the last minute, keeping busy. But God threw in a little extra for good measure.. I had an emergency root canal today. I will go back two weeks after my surgery for part 2! I guess he only gives you as much as you can handle, right? I am trying to keep a positive attitude.
Your emails are a Godsend. I love hearing from you. I will make the soup and I bought the metamucil wafers, got my stool softeners..Hey? I am a bowel's worst nightmare...I am armed and dangerous. Ready for any situation! I feel like the "Terminator" of Bowel Disorders..I am going to knock this one out and live a healthier and more normal life. Pray for me on Friday. I promise I will be quite the litte trooper and do well. I am 45 years young and want to enjoy life again. I also hope your healing process continues to go smoothly and that of all the others that have been so kind to share information with me.
Sincerely,
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I hope it is much easier than the hemorrhoidectomy. That was no fun. I guess I have such a low tolerance for pain and ok...let's face it...I am just a CHICKEN!! (smile) Should I put myself in this lovely soup recipe you gave me? I will definately make it tomrrow. My surgery is Friday. I will be happy when it is over. I am working up until the last minute, keeping busy. But God threw in a little extra for good measure.. I had an emergency root canal today. I will go back two weeks after my surgery for part 2! I guess he only gives you as much as you can handle, right? I am trying to keep a positive attitude.
Your emails are a Godsend. I love hearing from you. I will make the soup and I bought the metamucil wafers, got my stool softeners..Hey? I am a bowel's worst nightmare...I am armed and dangerous. Ready for any situation! I feel like the "Terminator" of Bowel Disorders..I am going to knock this one out and live a healthier and more normal life. Pray for me on Friday. I promise I will be quite the litte trooper and do well. I am 45 years young and want to enjoy life again. I also hope your healing process continues to go smoothly and that of all the others that have been so kind to share information with me.
Sincerely,
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Deezy
Harry
10-16-2003, 11:01 AM
After having 2 1/2 feet of my colon removed because of chronic diverticular bleeding I was "anemic" big time. I found that taking a Liquid Liver Extract put out Ezymatic Therapy several times daily was a very good & gentle way to solve the problem witout getting constipated like so many Iron supplement cause.
Liquid Liver Extract is actually a food--just conentrated. Taking it is like eating Liver 2 or 3 times daily and I don't know many people that want to do that.
God Bless---Harry
Liquid Liver Extract is actually a food--just conentrated. Taking it is like eating Liver 2 or 3 times daily and I don't know many people that want to do that.
God Bless---Harry
Deezy
10-16-2003, 11:06 PM
Harry,
I will try to find some Liquid Liver Extract, sounds like a great alternative. Thank you for posting that information. There is no way I could eat liver three times a day. I have been taking liquid iron and that seemed to help, but still got the constipated problem. I appreciate your well wishes. Tomorrow is the big day!
Sincerely,
God Bless---Harry
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I will try to find some Liquid Liver Extract, sounds like a great alternative. Thank you for posting that information. There is no way I could eat liver three times a day. I have been taking liquid iron and that seemed to help, but still got the constipated problem. I appreciate your well wishes. Tomorrow is the big day!
Sincerely,
God Bless---Harry
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Deezy
10-16-2003, 11:09 PM
Runninggal,
How are you doing? I have the big day tomorrow. I am hoping things are like you say...less pain than the Hemorroidhectomy and shorter recovery. We shall wait and see. I hope you are continuing to recover well and back to normal. Thank you for your post. I read it again today when I was here online reading all the supportive posts to my topic. It helps to get reassurance from those that have been through it. Thank you so much.
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How are you doing? I have the big day tomorrow. I am hoping things are like you say...less pain than the Hemorroidhectomy and shorter recovery. We shall wait and see. I hope you are continuing to recover well and back to normal. Thank you for your post. I read it again today when I was here online reading all the supportive posts to my topic. It helps to get reassurance from those that have been through it. Thank you so much.
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mrse
10-17-2003, 10:22 AM
Deezy, I am praying for you right now. I know you are probably in or getting ready to go in for the surgery. Take the painkiller as soon as you come out before the numbness wears off. You may only need it for the 1st day or 2 but don't hesitate to take it. Make sure you take the fiber and colace though so you don't have any problems. Eat your soup and sleep. In a couple days you'll be feeling great and in a couple weeks you'll wonder what you were so nervous about. Life will be good!
Sending healing prayers your way,
mrse
Sending healing prayers your way,
mrse
runninggal
10-17-2003, 05:25 PM
Deezy,
You have been in my thoughts today. I hope that your surgery went well and that you are resting comfortably at home.
Thank you for asking about me. I am doing great. I have totally recovered and have resumed my life, pain-free.
I think you are going to be amazed at how quickly you are going to bounce back from your sphincterotomy, compared to the hemorrhoidectomy.
Post when you are up to it.
Sending healing thoughts your way!
You have been in my thoughts today. I hope that your surgery went well and that you are resting comfortably at home.
Thank you for asking about me. I am doing great. I have totally recovered and have resumed my life, pain-free.
I think you are going to be amazed at how quickly you are going to bounce back from your sphincterotomy, compared to the hemorrhoidectomy.
Post when you are up to it.
Sending healing thoughts your way!
mrse
10-18-2003, 03:57 PM
Deezy....where are you? Are you ok? :)
mrse
mrse
Deezy
10-19-2003, 02:10 AM
MRSE,
I felt your prayers and reading your post makes me feel better already. I had my surgery yesterday and I am feeling much better than I did with the Hemorrhoidectomy. My doctor has me on clear liquids for one week. I did not know this was going to happen. I am acutally a bit hungry. I am taking the vicodin and was able to hobble over to the computer to check the new posts. The pain is not as bad as before but I just wonder about my first BM? I am drinking soup, juice, water and resting. Also, sitz baths. I think the surgery went well. My doctor talked to me afterwards and I don't remember a thing. The nurse said I was pretty knocked out. I have a bit of gas, but not too much. When I pass it, I only hurt minimally. Thank you for your prayers and I will continue to rest and get better soon. Take care. Words cannot express how helpful your encourgement is/was. Thank you again. Your advice helps a lot.
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I felt your prayers and reading your post makes me feel better already. I had my surgery yesterday and I am feeling much better than I did with the Hemorrhoidectomy. My doctor has me on clear liquids for one week. I did not know this was going to happen. I am acutally a bit hungry. I am taking the vicodin and was able to hobble over to the computer to check the new posts. The pain is not as bad as before but I just wonder about my first BM? I am drinking soup, juice, water and resting. Also, sitz baths. I think the surgery went well. My doctor talked to me afterwards and I don't remember a thing. The nurse said I was pretty knocked out. I have a bit of gas, but not too much. When I pass it, I only hurt minimally. Thank you for your prayers and I will continue to rest and get better soon. Take care. Words cannot express how helpful your encourgement is/was. Thank you again. Your advice helps a lot.
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Deezy
10-19-2003, 02:15 AM
Runningal,
I am glad to hear you are doing well. You can read my other post and see about me. Things went well. So far, so good. I am a worry wart with a low tolerance for pain. My first BM has not come yet. I don't know if it will soon because my doctor has my on clear liquid? The nurse said I have an impaction in my bottom that will go out when I have my first BM. We'll see. The pain meds are helping.
I am glad to hear you are doing well. I was thinking of you and all the encouragement you gave me. These posts have been the best. I don't know what I would have done without all of the great people here.
I want to grow up to be just like you! Healed and living a pain free life. Fingers crossed....
Back to rest.. Deezy
I am glad to hear you are doing well. You can read my other post and see about me. Things went well. So far, so good. I am a worry wart with a low tolerance for pain. My first BM has not come yet. I don't know if it will soon because my doctor has my on clear liquid? The nurse said I have an impaction in my bottom that will go out when I have my first BM. We'll see. The pain meds are helping.
I am glad to hear you are doing well. I was thinking of you and all the encouragement you gave me. These posts have been the best. I don't know what I would have done without all of the great people here.
I want to grow up to be just like you! Healed and living a pain free life. Fingers crossed....
Back to rest.. Deezy
Harry
10-19-2003, 11:37 AM
Hi Deezy,
I am glad the surgery went OK. A bit of caution-- all pain medication causes constipation to some extent --some more than others--- So,as you said you have a low tolerance to pain ---well take some if you really need it but the less you take the better off you will be.
God Bless---Harry
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I am glad the surgery went OK. A bit of caution-- all pain medication causes constipation to some extent --some more than others--- So,as you said you have a low tolerance to pain ---well take some if you really need it but the less you take the better off you will be.
God Bless---Harry
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runninggal
10-19-2003, 05:54 PM
Deezy,
I am so glad things went well for you.
My surgeon also had me on a liquid diet for one week, following my second (repair) surgery. My doctor did this to give me the optimal amount of days to heal, BEFORE I had to have the dreaded bowel movement. It worked. I was so much further ahead in the healing process by the time I had my first bowel movement. There was pain, but no blood.
Your surgeon put surgical packing in your rectum. This will be expelled upon your first bowel movement. My surgeon does not do that type of packing, but you have nothing to worry about.
My surgeon advised me not to eat red meat, or dairy products, during my recovery. This was just an extra measure to make sure I could pass stools easily. I still have not eaten red meat to this day and the only dairy I consume is organic yogurt with active cultures. Just something to think about.
You are on the path to healing. Keep thinking positively!
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I am so glad things went well for you.
My surgeon also had me on a liquid diet for one week, following my second (repair) surgery. My doctor did this to give me the optimal amount of days to heal, BEFORE I had to have the dreaded bowel movement. It worked. I was so much further ahead in the healing process by the time I had my first bowel movement. There was pain, but no blood.
Your surgeon put surgical packing in your rectum. This will be expelled upon your first bowel movement. My surgeon does not do that type of packing, but you have nothing to worry about.
My surgeon advised me not to eat red meat, or dairy products, during my recovery. This was just an extra measure to make sure I could pass stools easily. I still have not eaten red meat to this day and the only dairy I consume is organic yogurt with active cultures. Just something to think about.
You are on the path to healing. Keep thinking positively!
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Deezy
10-19-2003, 11:15 PM
Harry,
Thanks! So far I have needed the pain meds, but I am on a liquid diet and have not had a BM yet. Since Friday is my last day for liquids, I will take a stool softner the day before. Does that sound right? Also, I have been passing gas, I guess that is normal, but it really hasn't been hurting too much due to the pain meds. We'll see. I am feeling better every hour. I appreciate your posts and well wishes. I hope the same for you.
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Thanks! So far I have needed the pain meds, but I am on a liquid diet and have not had a BM yet. Since Friday is my last day for liquids, I will take a stool softner the day before. Does that sound right? Also, I have been passing gas, I guess that is normal, but it really hasn't been hurting too much due to the pain meds. We'll see. I am feeling better every hour. I appreciate your posts and well wishes. I hope the same for you.
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Deezy
10-19-2003, 11:19 PM
Runningal,
I think the liquid diet is good for me too. I am a bit hungry, but more concerned about healing, so I will stay on the liquids for a week. When should I be having my first BM? After my liquid diet (one week) or is it hard to tell? I feel bloated today and have not been drinking too much. I have the homemade chicken soup(clear), apple juice and water. I want the optimal amount of days to heal too. Less pain the better. The surgical packing came out during a sitz bath. Now, I bleed slightly on my panty liner when I have gas. I think this is normal. It is faint and only pink. Did the first BM hurt really bad?
(chicken, but have no choice,huh? When it's time...it will be time!)
Thanks for your posts. You help me (and others, I am sure) a lot. I will try to continue to think positively.
Deezy
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I think the liquid diet is good for me too. I am a bit hungry, but more concerned about healing, so I will stay on the liquids for a week. When should I be having my first BM? After my liquid diet (one week) or is it hard to tell? I feel bloated today and have not been drinking too much. I have the homemade chicken soup(clear), apple juice and water. I want the optimal amount of days to heal too. Less pain the better. The surgical packing came out during a sitz bath. Now, I bleed slightly on my panty liner when I have gas. I think this is normal. It is faint and only pink. Did the first BM hurt really bad?
(chicken, but have no choice,huh? When it's time...it will be time!)
Thanks for your posts. You help me (and others, I am sure) a lot. I will try to continue to think positively.
Deezy
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Deezy
10-19-2003, 11:25 PM
When should I start the fiber and stool softners? Since I am on a liquid diet until this Friday, I do not want to take them now and then force a BM that should have waited. Am I right?
Thanks...
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Thanks...
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runninggal
10-20-2003, 12:37 AM
Deezy,
If I were you, I would call my surgeon's office Monday morning and ask them for EXACT instructions about when to start your stool softeners, etc.
My situation was a bit different in that my surgeon would not discharge me from the hospital until AFTER I had had my first bowel movement. I was in the hospital for 5 days.
The day before I was to be discharged, the nurses gave me a dose of Lactulose, an osmotic. I had a bowel movement the following morning.
Now remember, I had the sphincterotomy along with the hemorrhoidectomy and fissurectomy, so I am not a good judge of pain level regarding the dreaded first bowel movement after just the sphincterotomy. I know you are anxious because you remember the horrible pain after the hemorrhoidectomy, but this is not the same. As you know, a sphinterotomy is much less invasive than a hemorrhoidectomy, so the bowel movement pain should not be that extreme.
In addition to Metamucil, I stayed on daily doses of Lactulose for 6 weeks. It really helped keep my stools soft and moving.
Try to relax. You're doing great!
If I were you, I would call my surgeon's office Monday morning and ask them for EXACT instructions about when to start your stool softeners, etc.
My situation was a bit different in that my surgeon would not discharge me from the hospital until AFTER I had had my first bowel movement. I was in the hospital for 5 days.
The day before I was to be discharged, the nurses gave me a dose of Lactulose, an osmotic. I had a bowel movement the following morning.
Now remember, I had the sphincterotomy along with the hemorrhoidectomy and fissurectomy, so I am not a good judge of pain level regarding the dreaded first bowel movement after just the sphincterotomy. I know you are anxious because you remember the horrible pain after the hemorrhoidectomy, but this is not the same. As you know, a sphinterotomy is much less invasive than a hemorrhoidectomy, so the bowel movement pain should not be that extreme.
In addition to Metamucil, I stayed on daily doses of Lactulose for 6 weeks. It really helped keep my stools soft and moving.
Try to relax. You're doing great!
Deezy
10-20-2003, 02:31 AM
Runningal,
You are right. I need to relax. I will call my doctor in the morning. Until then, I will chill out. Everything is actually going well. How long has it been since your procedures? Wow...I just remembered, all three at one time? You are my hero.
Thank you again, Deezy
You are right. I need to relax. I will call my doctor in the morning. Until then, I will chill out. Everything is actually going well. How long has it been since your procedures? Wow...I just remembered, all three at one time? You are my hero.
Thank you again, Deezy
llbbll
10-20-2003, 07:39 AM
Deezy, what caused the need for a sphincterotomy? After the hemorrhoid surgery did you develop stenosis which caused the hours of pain after each bm? I have the same kind of problem with pain lasting about 6 hours after each bm. I have had 3 surgeries, the original hemorrhoidectomy and two later to try to repair the damage from the first surgery. My stenosis problem was actually caused by the incorrectly done first hemorrhoid surgery (too much tissue was removed). Since your problems sound like mine, I am real interested in the outcome of your surgery. Seems like you are doing great from your recent posts. I wish you continued good luck. I understand wanting to get back to a normal life after dealing with this for over 6 months.
Deezy
10-20-2003, 11:47 AM
llbbll:
I had a very successful (yet painful) hemorrhoidectomy and I think that is due to my excellent surgeon. It was my choice to have just the hemorrhoidectomy in the beginning. She thought I needed both. So, I healed and still had pain. I was ok for a while, but the more I healed the more I felt pain after BM's. I even had them normal (not constipated or too soft) and I would still have pain for up to six hours afterwards. I think my sphincterotomy was the only sensible thing I could have done. I really had no choice? No medicine, nor all the fiber or stool softners in the world would not help long term. My doctor talked to me post surgery, but I do not remember what she said, I was out of it. But now I fee a thousand times better. I am on clear liquids and have not had a BM yet, but no throbbing. As many people said on these posts, I did not feel as "Beat Up" after the sphincterotomy as I did when I had my hemorrhoid surgery. Wow! That was a painful and much longer recovery. Even though I am very much still in the recovery stages, because it has only been three days. I am confident that all will go well, I can just feel it. These posts will be very helpful to you. The lovely people here helped me through my nerves up until the moment of surgery and then the first time I could waddle over to the computer post surgery the posts were filled with great information and concerned prayers. Feel free to ask me anything anytime. I am no expert, but I can share my experiences and I would love to "Pay it Forward", if you will. Good Luck to you and I wish you less pain today.
Sincerely,
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I had a very successful (yet painful) hemorrhoidectomy and I think that is due to my excellent surgeon. It was my choice to have just the hemorrhoidectomy in the beginning. She thought I needed both. So, I healed and still had pain. I was ok for a while, but the more I healed the more I felt pain after BM's. I even had them normal (not constipated or too soft) and I would still have pain for up to six hours afterwards. I think my sphincterotomy was the only sensible thing I could have done. I really had no choice? No medicine, nor all the fiber or stool softners in the world would not help long term. My doctor talked to me post surgery, but I do not remember what she said, I was out of it. But now I fee a thousand times better. I am on clear liquids and have not had a BM yet, but no throbbing. As many people said on these posts, I did not feel as "Beat Up" after the sphincterotomy as I did when I had my hemorrhoid surgery. Wow! That was a painful and much longer recovery. Even though I am very much still in the recovery stages, because it has only been three days. I am confident that all will go well, I can just feel it. These posts will be very helpful to you. The lovely people here helped me through my nerves up until the moment of surgery and then the first time I could waddle over to the computer post surgery the posts were filled with great information and concerned prayers. Feel free to ask me anything anytime. I am no expert, but I can share my experiences and I would love to "Pay it Forward", if you will. Good Luck to you and I wish you less pain today.
Sincerely,
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runninggal
10-20-2003, 04:19 PM
Hi Deezy,
I can tell by your recent posts that you are doing fine. Good for you, girlfriend!
My first surgery was May 6th, the second surgery on May 16th. So, I am 5 months post-op.
I originally went to the colorectal surgeon out of despiration. The pain from the fissure was unbearable. Like you, I would be in agony for 8 hours, or more, after a bowel movement. I had no quality of life. Luckily, I had a fabulous surgeon, who insisted that I do all 3 procedures at the same time. I am so thankful that I did.
Deezy, the sphincterotomy is going to make all the difference. You are not going to have that horrible spasming anymore and if you have a fissure, it will now heal.
Relax and keep thinking those pain-free thoughts!
I can tell by your recent posts that you are doing fine. Good for you, girlfriend!
My first surgery was May 6th, the second surgery on May 16th. So, I am 5 months post-op.
I originally went to the colorectal surgeon out of despiration. The pain from the fissure was unbearable. Like you, I would be in agony for 8 hours, or more, after a bowel movement. I had no quality of life. Luckily, I had a fabulous surgeon, who insisted that I do all 3 procedures at the same time. I am so thankful that I did.
Deezy, the sphincterotomy is going to make all the difference. You are not going to have that horrible spasming anymore and if you have a fissure, it will now heal.
Relax and keep thinking those pain-free thoughts!
llbbll
10-21-2003, 01:59 AM
Deezy, thanks for the response. You sound like you are doing fine after this surgery. I guess the real test will be the first bm. That always seems to be the toughest at least mentally. I had hemorrhoid surgery 30 years ago and it wasn't fun but I was back to work in 2 weeks. I thought I was experienced and knew what to expect when I needed hemorrhoid surgery again last April. The first surgery lasted 25 years before any recurrence started. Needless to say I have been surprised and disappointed at the outcome of these recent surgeries. I think I will need the surgery you just had to finally get fixed. Please keep us informed of your progress. It helps. Thanks.
Deezy
10-21-2003, 03:25 AM
My Hemmorhoid surgery was May 2, 2003. I had completely healed from that, but had a fissure. I used the nytro cream prior to my hemmorhoidectomy, I guess that worked short term.
I had some sugar free hard candies today! Wow! Felt like a ten course meal. (smile) I think I am doing good too. I am needing the pain medication much less. I am sore from laying in bed, but get tired easily due to the lack of food, probably. It hurts when I cough and I still have pain in my bottom, but not as much as day one. I am at day four now. I will return to my doctor on Friday. I think I am doing much better than I thought. I will know more after the first BM. I have been taking three sitz baths a day, keeping hydrated and taking my antibiotics. I enjoy the posts, so keep them coming. They are very encouraging.
Take Care....
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I had some sugar free hard candies today! Wow! Felt like a ten course meal. (smile) I think I am doing good too. I am needing the pain medication much less. I am sore from laying in bed, but get tired easily due to the lack of food, probably. It hurts when I cough and I still have pain in my bottom, but not as much as day one. I am at day four now. I will return to my doctor on Friday. I think I am doing much better than I thought. I will know more after the first BM. I have been taking three sitz baths a day, keeping hydrated and taking my antibiotics. I enjoy the posts, so keep them coming. They are very encouraging.
Take Care....
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Deezy
10-21-2003, 07:41 AM
I did it... I did it.... I did it!!!!!!!!!!
I feel like a small child who is being potty trained... I had a BM. I did not expect it because I am on clear liquids, but tonight my stomach was extra gassy. I got up because I am tired of laying in bed. I sat at the computer and I kept having gas. Suddenly, I felt the urge and I was like...What???? I was calm, I went to the bathroom and relaxed. With my first slight push, my impaction came out and my BM was very liquidy (hate to be too detailed, sorry!) It did not hurt, but it was uncomfortable. Whew! I feel so much better now. With the impaction, I felt like something was up there, and guess what? There was! I feel a relief. I know other bowel movements to come will still be tricky. On Friday, I will continue with my fiber and stool softners, should my doctor advise. I have a list of veggies I need/want, to keep me regular, but the stores are on strike and I will have to be creative to find them. I will though. I am so happy. I will continue to stay on the liquids, call my doctor tomorrow and be thankful to God for all the lovely people who constantly prayed for a speedy recovery with the least amount of pain possible. I am so relieved, can you tell? The Hemmorhoidectomy was so painful, it through me into a tizzy this time. You were all right...so much easier, thus far.
Thank you again. I appreciate all of your posts.
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I feel like a small child who is being potty trained... I had a BM. I did not expect it because I am on clear liquids, but tonight my stomach was extra gassy. I got up because I am tired of laying in bed. I sat at the computer and I kept having gas. Suddenly, I felt the urge and I was like...What???? I was calm, I went to the bathroom and relaxed. With my first slight push, my impaction came out and my BM was very liquidy (hate to be too detailed, sorry!) It did not hurt, but it was uncomfortable. Whew! I feel so much better now. With the impaction, I felt like something was up there, and guess what? There was! I feel a relief. I know other bowel movements to come will still be tricky. On Friday, I will continue with my fiber and stool softners, should my doctor advise. I have a list of veggies I need/want, to keep me regular, but the stores are on strike and I will have to be creative to find them. I will though. I am so happy. I will continue to stay on the liquids, call my doctor tomorrow and be thankful to God for all the lovely people who constantly prayed for a speedy recovery with the least amount of pain possible. I am so relieved, can you tell? The Hemmorhoidectomy was so painful, it through me into a tizzy this time. You were all right...so much easier, thus far.
Thank you again. I appreciate all of your posts.
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mrse
10-21-2003, 10:58 AM
Hey Deezy! I am so glad you are doing well! I have been thinking about you a lot. I agree with the pay it forward. Running Gal and Tammy (another poster) were there for me as was Harry and I wanted to be there for you. Passing that impaction is such a relief isn't it. I couldn't wait. It really won't get much worse. When you start the fiber and colace it will keep you regular. I didn't have any problems especially with the sitz bath afterwards. It's smooth sailing. Definitely take the advice from Running Gal...no red meat and no dairy at least till you are healed. It can really mess you up. I ended up losing 17 much needed pounds with the surgery just from not eating the things that I shouldn't have been eating anyway including chocolate (major constipator). Anyway, I am keeping you in my thoughts and will check up on you. Keep up the great recovery!
Mrs E
Mrs E
AlanJF
10-21-2003, 06:44 PM
Hello all. This is my first post. I went through a sphincterotomy last year which was successful but now I am being told by my specialist that I may need a hemorrhoidectomy. I am terrified by the prospect of this surgery because it has a fearsome reputation. Can anyone reassure me that its not as bad as its made out to be? Also, how does it compare to the pain of a fissure? I cane relate to that pain as I lived with one for over a year.
Deezy
10-22-2003, 03:23 AM
Alan,
I will not lie to you. The Hemorroidhectomy was a very painful surgery. Of course, you feel nothing during the surgery, but you when you get home and the anesthesia wears off it can be rough. You can take pain meds, but they do cause constipation, so you have to be careful. Sitz baths...Lots and lots of them. If you had a sphincterotomy, then you can do this. I also had a fissure and the surgery took care of it. Good Luck to you!
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I will not lie to you. The Hemorroidhectomy was a very painful surgery. Of course, you feel nothing during the surgery, but you when you get home and the anesthesia wears off it can be rough. You can take pain meds, but they do cause constipation, so you have to be careful. Sitz baths...Lots and lots of them. If you had a sphincterotomy, then you can do this. I also had a fissure and the surgery took care of it. Good Luck to you!
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runninggal
10-22-2003, 06:01 PM
Alan,
You cannot compare the pain of a fissure to that of the post-op pain of a hemorrhoidectomy. Having lived with the excruciating pain of a fissure, on and off for many years, I thought I was better prepared for the pain of the hemorrhoidectomy... wrong.
Listen, the ultimate goal is to be free of pain, long-term. In order to get there, you are going to have to endure some significant post-operative pain. For me, even with complications, it has been worth it. I have absolutely no regrets about having had the surgeries.
Hopefully, you have taken advantage of a lot of great information posted on this board. Deezy is right, there is no getting around the pain of a hemorrhoidectomy, but in the longrun, you get your quality of life back and that's the payoff!
You cannot compare the pain of a fissure to that of the post-op pain of a hemorrhoidectomy. Having lived with the excruciating pain of a fissure, on and off for many years, I thought I was better prepared for the pain of the hemorrhoidectomy... wrong.
Listen, the ultimate goal is to be free of pain, long-term. In order to get there, you are going to have to endure some significant post-operative pain. For me, even with complications, it has been worth it. I have absolutely no regrets about having had the surgeries.
Hopefully, you have taken advantage of a lot of great information posted on this board. Deezy is right, there is no getting around the pain of a hemorrhoidectomy, but in the longrun, you get your quality of life back and that's the payoff!
Deezy
10-22-2003, 06:10 PM
Runninggal,
I am weaker today. I guess I thought I was just going to breeze through this. I am not sure what to eat, but I am a bit hungry at times. My 2nd BM last night was liquid, and the one I had today was very soft, but not liquid. It burns a lot after my BM, so I do the "Running of the Sitz Bath" trick before I even go. I am craving matzo ball soup. No noodles, just the broth and the matzo balls. I do not know if they would be good for me, but I am craving them like crazy. I am only taking the pains meds post BM because I am sore. All in all..I will be OK and have no regrets. Slow progress is great for me. I am getting a lot of rest. I hope Alan finds comfort in our words. I can totally relate to him. I am hoping that members do not want to use these message boards in lieu of a doctor. I am a firm believer in finding a good doctor and using your best judgement along with him/her. Second opinions are options too. I have a great surgeon and could not have done this without her, my family and friends and this board. But, without her professional expertise, it would have been unsuccessful. Have a good day!
I am weaker today. I guess I thought I was just going to breeze through this. I am not sure what to eat, but I am a bit hungry at times. My 2nd BM last night was liquid, and the one I had today was very soft, but not liquid. It burns a lot after my BM, so I do the "Running of the Sitz Bath" trick before I even go. I am craving matzo ball soup. No noodles, just the broth and the matzo balls. I do not know if they would be good for me, but I am craving them like crazy. I am only taking the pains meds post BM because I am sore. All in all..I will be OK and have no regrets. Slow progress is great for me. I am getting a lot of rest. I hope Alan finds comfort in our words. I can totally relate to him. I am hoping that members do not want to use these message boards in lieu of a doctor. I am a firm believer in finding a good doctor and using your best judgement along with him/her. Second opinions are options too. I have a great surgeon and could not have done this without her, my family and friends and this board. But, without her professional expertise, it would have been unsuccessful. Have a good day!
runninggal
10-22-2003, 09:51 PM
Hi Deezy,
You are doing so well. Just be patient and let your body do the work of healing. Don't push yourself.
I totally agree with you that people should not use this board in lieu of consulting a physician. I think of this as a great place for sharing information and supporting one another. While I have personally experienced rectal maladies and surgical procedures, it does not make me an expert. I try to be very careful in the wording of my posts, not to "diagnose" or "prescribe", just to share my experience.
Matzoh ball soup...yum. Are you still on just liquids? Soup is so warm and nourishing and gives you that comforting feeling. Perfect recipe for recovery.
Hang in there, sweetie. You are doing great!
You are doing so well. Just be patient and let your body do the work of healing. Don't push yourself.
I totally agree with you that people should not use this board in lieu of consulting a physician. I think of this as a great place for sharing information and supporting one another. While I have personally experienced rectal maladies and surgical procedures, it does not make me an expert. I try to be very careful in the wording of my posts, not to "diagnose" or "prescribe", just to share my experience.
Matzoh ball soup...yum. Are you still on just liquids? Soup is so warm and nourishing and gives you that comforting feeling. Perfect recipe for recovery.
Hang in there, sweetie. You are doing great!
Deezy
10-22-2003, 10:15 PM
Runninggal,
I am going to let my body heal. You are right. I will be patient as the pain is bearable. I too try to be very careful what I say in these posts. I make sure I always give "my opinion" or "my experience". I am sure my point is well taken. This message board should not be used in lieu of sound medical advice by a qualified physician. However, our experiences and sharing is a great tool to add to our process.
The soup is soooooooo good. My daughter made the broth and since I had no matzo balls, I put a few noodles in it. My hubby is off on Friday and he will go and buy the matzo ball soup at a local jewish deli about 15 miles away, but it is worth the wait!
I hope you too are doing well and thank youfor the well wishes.
Deezy
I am going to let my body heal. You are right. I will be patient as the pain is bearable. I too try to be very careful what I say in these posts. I make sure I always give "my opinion" or "my experience". I am sure my point is well taken. This message board should not be used in lieu of sound medical advice by a qualified physician. However, our experiences and sharing is a great tool to add to our process.
The soup is soooooooo good. My daughter made the broth and since I had no matzo balls, I put a few noodles in it. My hubby is off on Friday and he will go and buy the matzo ball soup at a local jewish deli about 15 miles away, but it is worth the wait!
I hope you too are doing well and thank youfor the well wishes.
Deezy
Deezy
10-23-2003, 08:20 AM
I have been having soft BM's and after words a sitz bath. I had two yesterday (day five). I notice I have a lot of discomfort and burning, not real bad pain. It is getting better and my positive attitude tells me to be patient and take one day at at time. Last night I had to take a pain pill after the BM because I was in quite a bit of discomfort. I go see my doctor tomorrow for my first post op check up. Then, a root canal! (smile)
Everyone have a good day!
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Everyone have a good day!
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mrse
10-23-2003, 11:59 AM
Deezy I'm glad you're not in too much pain. I hope you are remembering to put a nice blob of vaseline on your butt before you go. I can't tell you how much that helped. I was at the point you are at now, not much pain but a lot of burning and Tammy and Running Gal told me about the vaseline. I haven't had a problem since. The burning is caused by the stool touching that sensitive area and the vaseline really protects. Hope things go well with root canal! :)
mrse
mrse
runninggal
10-23-2003, 05:24 PM
Hi Deezy,
As you know the post-op discomfort is a normal part of the healing process. I took very few pain narcotics myself, but when I really needed releif, I took them. Being in pain unneccessarily, can actually slow down the healing process.
I also think mental outlook has a huge impact on your recovery. In spite of complications, I was determined to heal and get my life back on track. I also noticed that mrse has a similar attititude. Yes we suffered, but we also overcame, got well and moved on. Unfortunately, some people get so immersed in their medical problems that it becomes part of their identity.
You are getting closer everyday, Deezy, to closing this chapter in your life and moving on to a happier, pain-free existance.
Happy thoughts!
As you know the post-op discomfort is a normal part of the healing process. I took very few pain narcotics myself, but when I really needed releif, I took them. Being in pain unneccessarily, can actually slow down the healing process.
I also think mental outlook has a huge impact on your recovery. In spite of complications, I was determined to heal and get my life back on track. I also noticed that mrse has a similar attititude. Yes we suffered, but we also overcame, got well and moved on. Unfortunately, some people get so immersed in their medical problems that it becomes part of their identity.
You are getting closer everyday, Deezy, to closing this chapter in your life and moving on to a happier, pain-free existance.
Happy thoughts!
mrse
10-23-2003, 11:52 PM
Hi Runningal, Just wanted to say thanks for all the positive reinforcement you gave me back when I had my surgery. I am now trying to do for Deezy and a couple others like you did for me. :) The pay it forward complex....
mrse
mrse
runninggal
10-24-2003, 05:00 PM
Hi there mrse,
I am so glad that I was able to say, or share something that helped you during a difficult time in your recovery. Personally, I got a lot of good information and support from people on this board and I, like you, am happy to give back.
Your posts are always so positive and caring.
How great that you too are all healed and feeling terrific! There is life after a hemorrhoidectomy!
I am so glad that I was able to say, or share something that helped you during a difficult time in your recovery. Personally, I got a lot of good information and support from people on this board and I, like you, am happy to give back.
Your posts are always so positive and caring.
How great that you too are all healed and feeling terrific! There is life after a hemorrhoidectomy!
Deezy
10-25-2003, 11:04 PM
Friends,
I agree, there is life after a hemorrhoidectomy and sphincterotomy. I feel so much better. My BM's are normal and there is very minimal pain. It seems like a dream come true. Each BM, I break out into a cold sweat out of habit. I am scared and sit there in such anticipation. Then, it is a bit sore, but bearable. I get into the bathtub and I am fine. Thank God! Thank my wonderful surgeon and thank all my family and friends on this site that helped me through. There is power in knowing others have been through what you are about to go through and lived to tell about it. You are all so supportive and I just have to say "Thank you" again. So far, I am doing great! My doctor said continue the sitz baths and good eating habits (fiber and stuff) and I do not have to go back to her unless I have a problem. I almost, and I say almost, do not know how to act not being in pain and not having a necessary follow up visit. But ya know what? I will get used to lit.
Regards...
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Deezy
I agree, there is life after a hemorrhoidectomy and sphincterotomy. I feel so much better. My BM's are normal and there is very minimal pain. It seems like a dream come true. Each BM, I break out into a cold sweat out of habit. I am scared and sit there in such anticipation. Then, it is a bit sore, but bearable. I get into the bathtub and I am fine. Thank God! Thank my wonderful surgeon and thank all my family and friends on this site that helped me through. There is power in knowing others have been through what you are about to go through and lived to tell about it. You are all so supportive and I just have to say "Thank you" again. So far, I am doing great! My doctor said continue the sitz baths and good eating habits (fiber and stuff) and I do not have to go back to her unless I have a problem. I almost, and I say almost, do not know how to act not being in pain and not having a necessary follow up visit. But ya know what? I will get used to lit.
Regards...
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Deezy
Deezy
11-07-2003, 01:00 AM
Three weeks post surgery and doing well. Have BM's daily with minimal discomfot. Can wipe with toilet paper, gently. It's like a miracle!
runninggal
11-07-2003, 01:59 AM
Hi Deezy,
I've been thinking about you and hoping that things were healing and going well. How great! It's just going to continue to get better and better.
I'm thrilled for you :)
I've been thinking about you and hoping that things were healing and going well. How great! It's just going to continue to get better and better.
I'm thrilled for you :)
Deezy
11-07-2003, 02:04 AM
Runningal,
I am great. The only thing is that sometimes I want to go on with my life and reading these posts make me think about things again. However, I do want to support those who supported me during my troubles. I could not have done it without you. Thank you so much. Now I am on to conquer the world! Take Care and good luck to you now and in the future.
I am great. The only thing is that sometimes I want to go on with my life and reading these posts make me think about things again. However, I do want to support those who supported me during my troubles. I could not have done it without you. Thank you so much. Now I am on to conquer the world! Take Care and good luck to you now and in the future.
Harry
11-07-2003, 02:06 AM
I am certainly glad things are going well!!
God Bless---Harry
God Bless---Harry
Deezy
11-07-2003, 05:36 AM
I am ever so grateful for this message board. Thank you for the well wishes. Life without constant pain is so much more comfortable. I pray everyone on this site finds the results I did. Take Care too...
runninggal
11-07-2003, 04:10 PM
Deezy,
I completely understand your point about psychologically 'revisiting' your experience by reading this board.
Don't worry, there are plenty of us here to help those in need.
It is time for you to move on with your life.
Wishing you health, happiness AND a painfree bottom :)
Hugs,
Runninggal
I completely understand your point about psychologically 'revisiting' your experience by reading this board.
Don't worry, there are plenty of us here to help those in need.
It is time for you to move on with your life.
Wishing you health, happiness AND a painfree bottom :)
Hugs,
Runninggal
Deezy
11-08-2003, 12:53 AM
Runninggal,
You are the best. I am so happy you understand. I had a BM yesterday and it was normal with some, but very minimal discomfort. I now have to take care of another health issue and maybe I am done! For a large Fibroid in my uterus (and NO I won't have a hysterectomy! I don't want more kids because mine are grown and I am 45 with seven granddaughters, but I will die with my uterus, thank you anyway...it sounds too much like Hemmorhoidectomy (smile)) I will be having a Uterine Artery Embolization. That is where they go through your groin and they block the blood vessel that supplies blood to the fibroid and then it shrinks after time and you have less bleeding during your menses. I was in the ER on Sunday and needed a blood transfusion. I am weak and tired, but my bottom feels great and that is what really counts for now! You...know what I mean. I am hoping to have this procedure in December so I can have a healthy 2004! Wish me luck..
Best of everything to you girl... and keep on Runnin'
You are the best. I am so happy you understand. I had a BM yesterday and it was normal with some, but very minimal discomfort. I now have to take care of another health issue and maybe I am done! For a large Fibroid in my uterus (and NO I won't have a hysterectomy! I don't want more kids because mine are grown and I am 45 with seven granddaughters, but I will die with my uterus, thank you anyway...it sounds too much like Hemmorhoidectomy (smile)) I will be having a Uterine Artery Embolization. That is where they go through your groin and they block the blood vessel that supplies blood to the fibroid and then it shrinks after time and you have less bleeding during your menses. I was in the ER on Sunday and needed a blood transfusion. I am weak and tired, but my bottom feels great and that is what really counts for now! You...know what I mean. I am hoping to have this procedure in December so I can have a healthy 2004! Wish me luck..
Best of everything to you girl... and keep on Runnin'
runninggal
11-08-2003, 03:17 PM
Deezy,
Oh my, you deserve to have a healthy 2004! Do me a favor sister, please post after your uterine procedure and let me know that you are okay.
You are in my prayers :angel:
Oh my, you deserve to have a healthy 2004! Do me a favor sister, please post after your uterine procedure and let me know that you are okay.
You are in my prayers :angel:
Deezy
11-08-2003, 04:04 PM
Runninggal,
Will do! This procedure is fairly new, so I want to tell others whether it worked or not too. I'll be in touch soon after I have it done.
God Bless and thank you for your thoughts and prayers. I wish good health for you and yours also.
Will do! This procedure is fairly new, so I want to tell others whether it worked or not too. I'll be in touch soon after I have it done.
God Bless and thank you for your thoughts and prayers. I wish good health for you and yours also.
lbp35
11-15-2003, 10:38 AM
Deezy, I had my hemorrhoid surgery in Aug and after a very long and painful recovery period, I am still not healed. I have had a small cut on the outside of my anus that continues inward and looks like a small ulcer. My surgeon who was not a colorectal surgeon thought it was a fissure but when I told him that I did'nt have pain during or after bms, he was'nt sure. I went to see a colorectal surgeon who diag. me w/ an anal fissure. It is sore to the touch on the outside but that's about it. She told me about botox injections and surgery. I am scared to death to have any other surgery especially one that can cause incontinence. I am using diltiazem now. I have been reading your posts and wondered if you could offer any advice. How long did you have the fissure and when did you consider surgery? How bad was your pain and did you have a cut on the outside that you could see?? Please reply any info. will help!!! thank you.
lbp35
11-15-2003, 10:41 AM
Runninggal, I have also read your post and can't imagine all you have been through. How long did you have your fissure and was it very painful before you decided on surgery. Do you have any incontinence now? I have also heard about a laser treatment for this, have any of you? thanx!!!! ( I'm Glad your feeling better)
Deezy
11-15-2003, 10:55 AM
I suffered with a fissure for over a year. I had hemorrhoids for several years. I had to have the hemorrhoidectomy in May, due to terrible pain. I had a fissure, but thought that it healed with the nitro cream. I guess it didn't. I also thought I was healing from the surgery when I began to get constipated or have the false feeling of being constripated due to my sphincter muscle being too tight. I needed to have the muscle cut with sphincterotomy. The recovery from the hemorrhoidectomy was beyond painful. The sphincterotomy was not as bad. Now, I am doing much better. It has only been a little less than four weeks. I get a bit of gas, but no real incontinence. I think you may need a second opionion. But in my case nothing was more painful than the hemorroidectomy. I was so scared to have the second surgery (sphincterotomy), but the lovely people on these message boards are correct, it was not as bad. I wish you luck. I am sorry I cannot be more help. I am new at this too and now I have to have another surgery for my fibroids. I opted not to have a hysterectomy, so I am having a uterine fibroid embolization. Back in the hospital! (frown). But I have severe anemia due to blood loss and had to have a transfusion the other day. Please do not hesistate to write again. Runninggal and the others on this site are very informative too! Hopefully, they will see the post and offer their suggestions. Good luck to you!
runninggal
11-15-2003, 05:43 PM
Hi lbp35,
So sorry you are experiencing further problems after surviving a hemorrhoidectomy such a short time ago.
I have had hemorrhoids (internal & external), as well as fissures for the past 12 years. My problems began after the birth of my first child. I would have long periods of time when everything would be fine and then, I would have a flareup, especially after subsequent baby deliveries.
Last Fall, I had a hemorrhoid flareup that would not subside. To make matters worse, I also knew I had a fissure as well. I went to 3 doctors, to include a gastroenterologist and they all claimed I had no fissure.
The pain was excruciating. After every bm, I would be in agony for up to 8 hours. This went on for months, while my gastroenterologist tried every lotion and potion to try to heal my "hemorrhoids." I had no quality of life. I finally went to my Gastroenterologist and insisted he give me a referral to a colorectal surgeon.
It took the surgeon less that 2 minutes to diagnose my FISSURE.
Unfortunately, the fissure was located between 2 internal hemorrhoids, so I had to have a triple surgical procedure...hemorrhoidectomy, fissurectomy, and sphinterotomy. The colorectal surgeon also tested my Resting Anal Pressure, which was very high. Having a high Resting Anal Pressure causes Eschemia, which is a lack of blood supply to the area. What that means is that my fissure was not going to heal, due to the lack of blood to the area. Therefore, I definately needed the sphincterotomy.
Although the post-op was torture, I don't regret one bit having the procedures done. It took 3 months, but I am healed and happy :)
Should you need to have the fissurectomy and sphincterotomy, you are not going to experience the kind of post-operative pain you did with the hemorrhoidectomy. The procedure is much less envasive and you will bounce back much more quickly. Just ask my friend, Deezy :)
Feel free to ask any other questions.
Runninggal
So sorry you are experiencing further problems after surviving a hemorrhoidectomy such a short time ago.
I have had hemorrhoids (internal & external), as well as fissures for the past 12 years. My problems began after the birth of my first child. I would have long periods of time when everything would be fine and then, I would have a flareup, especially after subsequent baby deliveries.
Last Fall, I had a hemorrhoid flareup that would not subside. To make matters worse, I also knew I had a fissure as well. I went to 3 doctors, to include a gastroenterologist and they all claimed I had no fissure.
The pain was excruciating. After every bm, I would be in agony for up to 8 hours. This went on for months, while my gastroenterologist tried every lotion and potion to try to heal my "hemorrhoids." I had no quality of life. I finally went to my Gastroenterologist and insisted he give me a referral to a colorectal surgeon.
It took the surgeon less that 2 minutes to diagnose my FISSURE.
Unfortunately, the fissure was located between 2 internal hemorrhoids, so I had to have a triple surgical procedure...hemorrhoidectomy, fissurectomy, and sphinterotomy. The colorectal surgeon also tested my Resting Anal Pressure, which was very high. Having a high Resting Anal Pressure causes Eschemia, which is a lack of blood supply to the area. What that means is that my fissure was not going to heal, due to the lack of blood to the area. Therefore, I definately needed the sphincterotomy.
Although the post-op was torture, I don't regret one bit having the procedures done. It took 3 months, but I am healed and happy :)
Should you need to have the fissurectomy and sphincterotomy, you are not going to experience the kind of post-operative pain you did with the hemorrhoidectomy. The procedure is much less envasive and you will bounce back much more quickly. Just ask my friend, Deezy :)
Feel free to ask any other questions.
Runninggal
lbp35
11-16-2003, 08:58 AM
runninggal,
Thank you so much for your quick reply! I have been so worried about this fissure thing! I can see the cut on the outside, and it's right where my hemm. was removed. I don't have pain during bm or after like you decribe, just it hurts to the touch, It feels raw sometimes. I don't want to sound like I'm in denial about having a fissure, but you and deezy seemed like you had so much pain with yours, am I right? I am so glad you are completely healed after surgery though, it gives me hope that this can happen to me. I would love to have my life back. My question, do you have any incontinence after your surgery? When you had your fissures, how long did they last? I have had mine(i'm guessing) for 2 months, my doctor said something about this being chronic and harder to heal. Any sugesstions to heal this on my own??? Thank you again for all your help!
Thank you so much for your quick reply! I have been so worried about this fissure thing! I can see the cut on the outside, and it's right where my hemm. was removed. I don't have pain during bm or after like you decribe, just it hurts to the touch, It feels raw sometimes. I don't want to sound like I'm in denial about having a fissure, but you and deezy seemed like you had so much pain with yours, am I right? I am so glad you are completely healed after surgery though, it gives me hope that this can happen to me. I would love to have my life back. My question, do you have any incontinence after your surgery? When you had your fissures, how long did they last? I have had mine(i'm guessing) for 2 months, my doctor said something about this being chronic and harder to heal. Any sugesstions to heal this on my own??? Thank you again for all your help!
lbp35
11-16-2003, 09:07 AM
Deezy, I am so sorry you have to have another surgery(for your fibroids), I will keep you in my prayers. Thank you for your quick reply. If i do need the surgery, you and runninggal did make me feel a little better. My doctor said she would try botox injections first, have you heard of this? It is also an attempt to rexlax the muscle and allow the fissure to heal. If not, she says surgery is my only option, but with me not having alot of pain, it's hard to just accept that. How long after your surgery did you have pain with bms? My hemm. surgery too was a nightmare, something I won;t soon forget. I am scared to death of any other surgery because of it. Any info on your post op will help! my prayers are with you! thanx again
runninggal
11-16-2003, 05:38 PM
lbp-
While I did have trouble with incontinence post-op, it resolved itself within 6 weeks, thank God. It was a nightmare. I was literally a prisoner in my own home.
From what you describe about your fissure, it sounds hopeful that it can heal without the need for surgery. Pain, I mean hideous pain, with bowel movements, that is unrelenting is why surgery is usually recommended for fissures. You don't have pain and that is a very good thing.
My colorectal surgeon, who is also a teaching professor at a university, is anti-botox injections. If I were you, I would read every published article I could get my hands on regarding botox and fissures, before I would subject myself to its use. There are patients who have had injections and ended up in worse shape because of it. Do your research.
Don't you just long for the day when you don't have to think about "bottom issues?" I know exactly what you are going through.
Hang in there, it will get better.
While I did have trouble with incontinence post-op, it resolved itself within 6 weeks, thank God. It was a nightmare. I was literally a prisoner in my own home.
From what you describe about your fissure, it sounds hopeful that it can heal without the need for surgery. Pain, I mean hideous pain, with bowel movements, that is unrelenting is why surgery is usually recommended for fissures. You don't have pain and that is a very good thing.
My colorectal surgeon, who is also a teaching professor at a university, is anti-botox injections. If I were you, I would read every published article I could get my hands on regarding botox and fissures, before I would subject myself to its use. There are patients who have had injections and ended up in worse shape because of it. Do your research.
Don't you just long for the day when you don't have to think about "bottom issues?" I know exactly what you are going through.
Hang in there, it will get better.
Deezy
11-16-2003, 09:53 PM
Hello Ladies (and of course my best to runninggal!) I too have slighght incontinence and mostly gas. I am four weeks post op and it seems to be slowing down considerably. I am sure, from what I've read, it will go away soon. Waiting to have my Uterine Fibriod Embolization and I should be good as new! My best to all.
Regards,
Regards,
runninggal
11-17-2003, 02:23 AM
Hi Deezy, my friend. You are in my thoughts. Keep me posted.
Runninggal :wave:
Runninggal :wave:
lbp35
11-17-2003, 08:29 AM
Deezy and Runninggal,
You both have been a great help, but I am still so scared of this surgery. Like I said, I don't have alot of pain but the diltiazem cream does'nt seem to be working. How long did you guys have pain after your surgery? Runninggal, I know yours was very different, how did you distingish the pain between the surgeries( iknow you said the hem surgery was the worst)? Also when you guys say you did have fecal incontinince was it just when you passed gas or more frequently? This is so emotionally upsetting for me, I can;'t think of anything else. My family thinks I need medication for a while, for my nerves and I agree. I'm afraid if I need this surgery I won't be able to control my bowels or will pass gas in public places without control. Please respond quickly, I appreciate both of you! Deezy, again good luck to you!
You both have been a great help, but I am still so scared of this surgery. Like I said, I don't have alot of pain but the diltiazem cream does'nt seem to be working. How long did you guys have pain after your surgery? Runninggal, I know yours was very different, how did you distingish the pain between the surgeries( iknow you said the hem surgery was the worst)? Also when you guys say you did have fecal incontinince was it just when you passed gas or more frequently? This is so emotionally upsetting for me, I can;'t think of anything else. My family thinks I need medication for a while, for my nerves and I agree. I'm afraid if I need this surgery I won't be able to control my bowels or will pass gas in public places without control. Please respond quickly, I appreciate both of you! Deezy, again good luck to you!
runninggal
11-17-2003, 04:27 PM
lbp,
You are right, since I did have all 3 procedures done at the same time, it was difficult to distinguish which hurt the most at any given time. Of course, the hemorrhoidectomy is the most invasive and traumatizing to the body AND is notoriously painful and difficult to recover from.
Deezy had a hemorrhoidectomy first, and then a sphincterotomy done later. As she can tell you, the sphincterotomy was much less painful and quicker to recover from than the hemorrhoidectomy. A very good friend of mine had a fissurectomy and sphincterotomy and her pain experience was very tolerable and she quickly recovered.
As far as incontinence, I couldn't distinguish between the need to have a bm, or pass gas. My rectal area seemed to be in constant spasm, for weeks after the surgery/surgeries. However, with each passing day, it got better. I have no incontinence now, whatsoever. Also, I did have the experience of passing gas uncontrollably. Mind you, it wasn't earth-shattering, just a little "squeak" now and then. That too is gone. I am in control!
While incontenence is a risk with these types of surgeries, if you look at the statistics, it is a rare side-effect.
I hope that I answered your questions.
Think positively! You are going to get better :)
You are right, since I did have all 3 procedures done at the same time, it was difficult to distinguish which hurt the most at any given time. Of course, the hemorrhoidectomy is the most invasive and traumatizing to the body AND is notoriously painful and difficult to recover from.
Deezy had a hemorrhoidectomy first, and then a sphincterotomy done later. As she can tell you, the sphincterotomy was much less painful and quicker to recover from than the hemorrhoidectomy. A very good friend of mine had a fissurectomy and sphincterotomy and her pain experience was very tolerable and she quickly recovered.
As far as incontinence, I couldn't distinguish between the need to have a bm, or pass gas. My rectal area seemed to be in constant spasm, for weeks after the surgery/surgeries. However, with each passing day, it got better. I have no incontinence now, whatsoever. Also, I did have the experience of passing gas uncontrollably. Mind you, it wasn't earth-shattering, just a little "squeak" now and then. That too is gone. I am in control!
While incontenence is a risk with these types of surgeries, if you look at the statistics, it is a rare side-effect.
I hope that I answered your questions.
Think positively! You are going to get better :)
lbp35
11-18-2003, 08:25 AM
Runninggal, You made me laugh for the first time all day yesterday! The little squeek comment did it! I was so upset for the last week over this, the diltiazem I got from my doctor just does'nt seem to be working so I keep thinking surgery will be my only option. I am still very afraid but not as much since talking to you and deezy. I think I am prepared for the pain of the surgery (i Hope) for nothing could be as bad as the hem. surgery. I think i'd rather die than have that again. I'm taking deezy's word for it, that in comparison it's not as bad. You are amazing for having everytrhing done at once. I still am confused on why I don't have pain during or after my bm though. My cut is on the outside and when I pull it apart it extends inward and therefore does look like a fissure. I just wish since it's not that bad,I could get it to heal on it's own. I don't know what else to try. Did you try anything first before you went for surgery? Did you have fissures that healed and then reoccurred? Sorry to bother you again but i need some help! thanx!
runninggal
11-18-2003, 03:50 PM
lbp~
Oh my, I tried every lotion and potion, both prescription and over-the-counter, to try to heal my fissure. I was desperate and went to almost any means to get relief. I did not do Nitro, however, due to the fact that I have a history of migraine headaches.
As I said, because of the position of my fissure, it was not going to heal on its own AND had grown a skin tag, which 3 doctors thought was an external hemorrhoid. It was excruciating.
Pain was the motivator for me to opt for surgery.
Have you thought about seeking another opinion from another colorectal surgeon?
Oh my, I tried every lotion and potion, both prescription and over-the-counter, to try to heal my fissure. I was desperate and went to almost any means to get relief. I did not do Nitro, however, due to the fact that I have a history of migraine headaches.
As I said, because of the position of my fissure, it was not going to heal on its own AND had grown a skin tag, which 3 doctors thought was an external hemorrhoid. It was excruciating.
Pain was the motivator for me to opt for surgery.
Have you thought about seeking another opinion from another colorectal surgeon?
lbp35
11-22-2003, 02:18 PM
Runninggal , Yes, I have thought about a second opionon. The problem is my colorectal surgeon is not pushing surgery on me it's I keep obsessing that I'll have to have it(I think because I'm so afraid of it.) I keep thinking nothing will help me, and I'll never heal. I'm so afraid of the incontinence also, but after talking with you I do feel better about that. You said your totally in control right? My hem. surgery scared me so much. How about softer stools, besides colace what can I do? thanx!!!
runninggal
11-22-2003, 10:10 PM
lbp~
I am not one of those who advocates the use of colace. It was not effective for me and actually made my stools sticky and difficult to pass.
Instead, I take Elemental Magnesium capsules daily. I also take a daily dose of Metamucil in the morning.
My diet is heavy on fruits and vegetables. I don't eat red meat anymore and have also eliminated dairy, with the exception of yogurt.
I have a large salad meal, either for lunch or dinner and I drink water throughout the day.
This is what works for me.
I am not one of those who advocates the use of colace. It was not effective for me and actually made my stools sticky and difficult to pass.
Instead, I take Elemental Magnesium capsules daily. I also take a daily dose of Metamucil in the morning.
My diet is heavy on fruits and vegetables. I don't eat red meat anymore and have also eliminated dairy, with the exception of yogurt.
I have a large salad meal, either for lunch or dinner and I drink water throughout the day.
This is what works for me.
Deezy
11-27-2003, 03:31 AM
Runninggal
Today, I give thanks to special friends out there who have helped me through the most difficult times.
"Thinking of You"
Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours.
God bless~
Today, I give thanks to special friends out there who have helped me through the most difficult times.
"Thinking of You"
Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours.
God bless~
Deezy
11-27-2003, 03:34 AM
mrse
On this special day of giving thanks... I could not forget a person who helped me and gave me advice to ease my worries. You are in my thoughts today.
Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours.
God bless,
On this special day of giving thanks... I could not forget a person who helped me and gave me advice to ease my worries. You are in my thoughts today.
Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours.
God bless,
vdang2003
11-29-2003, 08:17 AM
Runninggal,
I noticed you said you take elemental magnesium capsules. I too don't trust the colace, as I've had the sticky BMs without it and don't want to go back in that direction. I'm 5 days post-op (hemorrhoidectomy w/ sphincterotomy) and I'm taking the metamucil (6 pills a day until yesterday, then dropped back and today the stools are harder again) but it isn't doing what it did for me prior to surgery. How much magnesium are you taking and do you know how it works? I'm also taking a TON of natural stuff that promotes venous healing. My aunt is a nurse and had me start these things prior to the surgery, to help give me a boost for recovery and they DO help. My fissure was doing much better, still not healing, but doing better prior to surgery. Anyway, prior to surgery, I was using the metamucil pills 3xday and had GREAT results. Post-op, knowing the percocet causes constipation, I increased the dose of the metamucil, still had hard stools. So far, I've gone from hard to sticky to hard again and my BM's aren't "finishing", if you know what I mean. I may have to go at 3 am and I can tell there is still more in there, but I cannot and will not force it out so I wait until the urge comes on me again and it might be 30 minutes or it might be 3 hours before I can finish. This leaves me feeling full down there for however long it takes the urge to comes back, which of course leads to pain and more burning...it is frustrating. I increased my dosage of fish oil and it DID lubricate the BM more, but the price was slower movement during expulsion, kind of like sticky but not quite. I started flaxseed oil yesterday, decreased the fish oil and metamucil and this morning I'm back to a harder stool. I also took 2 percocet yesterday because I'm sick of NOT taking it and dealing with the pain. I feel water logged because I'm drinking so much water. Anyway, I feel like I'm consumed with my BMs and I am sure everyone around me is tired of hearing about it- haha! I'm not losing hope and I'm actually pleased with my recovery so far, but am really trying to work out this whole BM thing because I know it is the key to a faster recovery. I've heard the magnesium mentioned somewhere else and I'm wondering how it works?
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
I noticed you said you take elemental magnesium capsules. I too don't trust the colace, as I've had the sticky BMs without it and don't want to go back in that direction. I'm 5 days post-op (hemorrhoidectomy w/ sphincterotomy) and I'm taking the metamucil (6 pills a day until yesterday, then dropped back and today the stools are harder again) but it isn't doing what it did for me prior to surgery. How much magnesium are you taking and do you know how it works? I'm also taking a TON of natural stuff that promotes venous healing. My aunt is a nurse and had me start these things prior to the surgery, to help give me a boost for recovery and they DO help. My fissure was doing much better, still not healing, but doing better prior to surgery. Anyway, prior to surgery, I was using the metamucil pills 3xday and had GREAT results. Post-op, knowing the percocet causes constipation, I increased the dose of the metamucil, still had hard stools. So far, I've gone from hard to sticky to hard again and my BM's aren't "finishing", if you know what I mean. I may have to go at 3 am and I can tell there is still more in there, but I cannot and will not force it out so I wait until the urge comes on me again and it might be 30 minutes or it might be 3 hours before I can finish. This leaves me feeling full down there for however long it takes the urge to comes back, which of course leads to pain and more burning...it is frustrating. I increased my dosage of fish oil and it DID lubricate the BM more, but the price was slower movement during expulsion, kind of like sticky but not quite. I started flaxseed oil yesterday, decreased the fish oil and metamucil and this morning I'm back to a harder stool. I also took 2 percocet yesterday because I'm sick of NOT taking it and dealing with the pain. I feel water logged because I'm drinking so much water. Anyway, I feel like I'm consumed with my BMs and I am sure everyone around me is tired of hearing about it- haha! I'm not losing hope and I'm actually pleased with my recovery so far, but am really trying to work out this whole BM thing because I know it is the key to a faster recovery. I've heard the magnesium mentioned somewhere else and I'm wondering how it works?
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Deezy
01-03-2004, 01:03 AM
Runninggal,
I hope this finds you and the rest of my message board friends doing well. I am now post sphincterotomy surgery 2 1/2 months. I am doing fine. I am in no pain and my bowels are normal. I do notice that when I have to go, I have to go, I can't wait. I have minimal gas from that area. But that is fading too. The Sphincterotomy was much easier than the hemorrhoidectomy.
I had the Uterine Fibroid Embolization two weeks ago. The cramps were bad for the first five days, it got better after that. It is too soon to know how that will go, but XXXX fingers. I guess when I have my period, I hope it will be less bleeding. That means the fibroids are shrinking and it is working.
Now I am just extremely fatigued. I have to go and see my endo doc and make sure my hypothyroid is in check. I am just sick of being in pain. I guess you can say, sick and tired of being sick and TIRED!
Happy New Year,
Deezy
I hope this finds you and the rest of my message board friends doing well. I am now post sphincterotomy surgery 2 1/2 months. I am doing fine. I am in no pain and my bowels are normal. I do notice that when I have to go, I have to go, I can't wait. I have minimal gas from that area. But that is fading too. The Sphincterotomy was much easier than the hemorrhoidectomy.
I had the Uterine Fibroid Embolization two weeks ago. The cramps were bad for the first five days, it got better after that. It is too soon to know how that will go, but XXXX fingers. I guess when I have my period, I hope it will be less bleeding. That means the fibroids are shrinking and it is working.
Now I am just extremely fatigued. I have to go and see my endo doc and make sure my hypothyroid is in check. I am just sick of being in pain. I guess you can say, sick and tired of being sick and TIRED!
Happy New Year,
Deezy