It's been 6 days with no Sub. And I feel human again. For three days I felt achey, hot and cold, and weak and tired--but not uncontrollable at all. Minor flu like symptoms. But after day three, it all got better by the hour. I was on it for a total of 21 days.
I am still not sleeping much at all, and have frequent panic and anxiety, especially at night, but those were the reasons I got hooked on Norco (hydro) to begin with. Getting numbed on narcotics was my way of dealing with anxiety and insomnia. So I guess I'm going to have to deal. I went to GNC yesterday to get a bunch of sleep and anxiety stuff--So we'll see how that works.
Pysco pharmacologist wants me to consider an SSRI, but I do not want to put ANY pills into my system at this point--I can deal with the anxiety/panic, but not sleeping is a drag!!
Anyway, THANK YOU ALL for being here. I have never 'met' such an amazing, caring, supporting, group of people in all my life. I wiss you all the best on your progress getting better, and I'll keep you posted on my progress as well. Prayers to all! :)
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christianmom
01-18-2005, 11:39 AM
I'm so proud of you!!! I've been wondering about you, so I'm really glad you updated. I'm weaning of the Sub. right now, so if you don't mind..I will probably want to ask you many questions. I have just decided that I'm DONE with ALL pills, so I'm ready. I am down to 2 mgs. a day, and hope to be off completely by Fri., Sat. or Sun. (waiting until my hubby will be home in case I'm feeling really bad). Did you ever go cold turkey from the Norco's? If so, how did it compare to going off the Sub.? Since I had stopped and started the Sub., I'm not sure how many days I've been on it, but it will probably be around the same amount as you. I'm hoping I'm doing as well as you on Day 6 of no Sub.!!!! ;) Please stick around and CONGRATS again!!!!
I'm editing to add that I just looked at the calendar, and today is my 22nd day on the Sub., so hopefully my experience will be similar to yours. How far down did you wean before you stopped completely? Any info. would be really appreciated!!! ;)
nexcare
01-18-2005, 07:41 PM
Christianmom,
It was NOTHING like C/T. I did try once, and made it less than 24 hours before I went to the doc, faking back pain--actually I wasn't faking--I was in pain--all over, but from W/D's--He's a quack, and basically gave me what I asked for.
Needless to say, I just found a new PCP, and explained my 'allergy' to narcotics. Any way here's what I did, and it was minimally uncomfortable, and I even could have tapered slower to minimize discomfort further.
Day AM PM
1 8mg 8mg (way too much)
2 4mg 4mg (probably too much)
3 4mg 4mg ''
4 4mg 4mg ''
5 4mg 4mg ''
6 4mg 4mg ''
7 4mg 0mg
8 2mg 4mg
9 2mg 2mg
10 2mg 2mg
11 2mg 2mg
12 2mg 2mg
13 2mg 2mg
14 2mg 0mg
15 1mg 1mg
16 1mg 1mg -started feeling a LITTLE ichy
17 1mg 1mg -felt a little better
18 .5mg .5mg-felt ok
19 1mg 0mg -felt ok
20 0mg .25mg-felt a LITTLE ichy (until i took it)
21 0mg .25mg-felt a LITTLE ichy (untl i took it)
22 0mg 0.10mg??-ditto
23 0mg 0.10mg?? ditto
Symptoms peaked 2 days after day 23 (again not unbearable)--and subsided from there. I worked through the entire taper--even traveled for business.
Christianmom and anyone reading this, YOU CAN DO IT! I did, and I am the worlds biggest baby!
At the VERY WORST it felt like low grade flu.
Today I feel fine, other than not sleeping, and anxiety, but I had that before Norco, so--gonna have to wait it out....
Best to all!
PS. any sleep/anxiety remedies would be appreciated.
Tk
valleygurl
01-18-2005, 08:05 PM
Nexcare, Go visit the alternative medicine board! I am telling you, i was wondering about alternative meds to be able to sleep and all i did was start reading!!!!! There are so many posts on there concerning sleep aide alternatives! Seems like one i remember was to take 1000 mgs.magnesium and 1000mgs calcium at night and its supposed to make you sleep like a baby!!! Good Luck!
Christianmom, Where have you been????? It seems you leave when i need you the most!!!! Oh soooo much going on with me, up down, just so much confusion and uncertainty. But ya know what????? I am soooo sooooo proud of you! You are really my hero Christianmom!
ValleyGurl
christianmom
01-18-2005, 10:31 PM
ValleyGurl~
Hey sweetie, I never 'leave', ever..I read posts here each and every day. I just haven't felt up to posting, communicating, etc. at all. I'm so sorry. Please, PLEASE let me know if you ever need anything...even if it's just to "talk" about nothing at all. I'm like you I guess...lots of confusion and uncertainty, BUT...I have been making major strides over the past week or so. I'm actually feeling really optimistic for the first time since starting the Sub. I'm determined to taper off of it soon, and get on with my life without ANY pills. I even made phone calls to find the nearest NA meetings (I know, just making the call doesn't sound like anything big..but for me it was, simply 'cause I never thought I would be one to attend meetings). I also got on my knees and prayed and cried today...begging and pleading for God to help me through this..to get off the Sub., and to starting really living again. I'm now feeling SO good about things. I know that it's not going to be a cake-walk by any means, but I almost feel like I need to suffer some physical pain ('cause Lord knows I've definitely suffered with TONS of mental anguish/pain) just so I will remember how bad this all sucks, and how badly I want to be clean, sober, and free of all pills forever. I'm so confident right now...and I honestly didn't feel that way just a week ago (or even a few days ago). Anyway, just PLEASE know that I'm here for you ANYTIME, ALL OF THE TIME. I do think about you on a daily basis, and I've had you in my prayers as well. Please keep me updated on your progress, and how you are feeling about things right now. Believe me, I'm almost positive I can relate to just about anything you are feeling right now..especially since we seem to have so much in common. I might not be extremely active with my posting over the next week or so (due to weaning off the Sub.), but once again..I am here each and every day catching up with all of my dear friends. So don't ever feel like I've "abandoned" you, girl! ;) My thoughts & prayers are with you....keep in touch and update me, and I promise to do the same!
PryncessBee
01-19-2005, 08:31 AM
Nexcare,
Congrats on your continued recovery :bouncing: ... I am about to drop to 2mg tomorrow and then tapper pretty quick. I will be done with these pills (suboxone) by next week, which is about a week more than you. I am feeling fine but my anxiety is increasing because of the fear of the unknown...I dread the next two weeks :confused: . Anyway, keep posting and letting us know how you are doing.
ALSO, I would love to hear from anyone else who is tappering their suboxone and about to detox or already have... I have heard so many horrible stories and a couple of good ones, but any info would be greatly appreciated. PryncessB :wave: