tutough
01-18-2005, 03:10 PM
Is it because we can't do much? Is it because of the medications we are on? Is it because of both of these things? I need some help here because I am getting bigger and bigger here and don't know why. Come on all of you well balanced individuals, put your thinking caps on.
Sponsor
luv2read
01-18-2005, 03:18 PM
my reasons are these:
Major fatigue = grabbing coca-cola
sleeping a lot
grabbing the chocolate
grabbing anything to eat to make me wake up!!
Pain = little exercise
= grabbing the chocolate
= grabbing the pop
= depression
= little exercise
= sleeping too much
= don't care
= eat too much
= then eat too little
:yawn: :rolleyes: :bouncing:
Major fatigue = grabbing coca-cola
sleeping a lot
grabbing the chocolate
grabbing anything to eat to make me wake up!!
Pain = little exercise
= grabbing the chocolate
= grabbing the pop
= depression
= little exercise
= sleeping too much
= don't care
= eat too much
= then eat too little
:yawn: :rolleyes: :bouncing:
tutough
01-18-2005, 03:31 PM
Thats a riot! Well now I know every thing. Thanks Luv2read
bluelakelady
01-18-2005, 04:33 PM
hi luv and tutough,
how much water do you drink? most of the time the feeling we associate with hunger is thirst. i drink at least 8 (and usually 10) 24oz bottles of water a day. i delight in sugar and all the many forms it comes in. from two teaspoons in my one cup of coffee a day to baking goodies and any candy that combines chocolate and peanut butter.
being able to eat is an issue for my body. i love to cook. i find fullness in the act of creating sustanance for others and eat very little. baking is a different story.
my weight is steady. exercise makes all the difference. i usually eat one healthy meal a day and be happy with whatever my body will allow down my throat, usually sugar or popcorn.
my friends who know how much candy i eat marvel that i can weigh in at 160. sure it's a bit more than youthful weight, giggle. i swim, walk, garden and find ways to have my cake and eat it too!! fortunatly when i am too weak to be active my appetite leaves. no food, no candy. just lots and lots of water.
i am one of the fortunate ones. depression is not a contributing factor. nothing feeds depression like eating or sitting on you butt. depression craves your participation.
some meds do cause the side effect carb craving. i do not take them. i went from 140 to 200 lbs the first year i had fms. told the doc and his little happy pills to take a hike. if it causes a side effect that actually keeps you sick, why take it?
the tricyclics and a few other meds for depression and/or sleep are well known for that.
call your pharmacist and ask her/him about your meds.
luv has shown you the cycle that will take you away from where you wish to be.
i doubt i will ever give up my love affair with sugar. staying active assures i will be able to eat goodies tomorrow!
peace,
bluelakelady
how much water do you drink? most of the time the feeling we associate with hunger is thirst. i drink at least 8 (and usually 10) 24oz bottles of water a day. i delight in sugar and all the many forms it comes in. from two teaspoons in my one cup of coffee a day to baking goodies and any candy that combines chocolate and peanut butter.
being able to eat is an issue for my body. i love to cook. i find fullness in the act of creating sustanance for others and eat very little. baking is a different story.
my weight is steady. exercise makes all the difference. i usually eat one healthy meal a day and be happy with whatever my body will allow down my throat, usually sugar or popcorn.
my friends who know how much candy i eat marvel that i can weigh in at 160. sure it's a bit more than youthful weight, giggle. i swim, walk, garden and find ways to have my cake and eat it too!! fortunatly when i am too weak to be active my appetite leaves. no food, no candy. just lots and lots of water.
i am one of the fortunate ones. depression is not a contributing factor. nothing feeds depression like eating or sitting on you butt. depression craves your participation.
some meds do cause the side effect carb craving. i do not take them. i went from 140 to 200 lbs the first year i had fms. told the doc and his little happy pills to take a hike. if it causes a side effect that actually keeps you sick, why take it?
the tricyclics and a few other meds for depression and/or sleep are well known for that.
call your pharmacist and ask her/him about your meds.
luv has shown you the cycle that will take you away from where you wish to be.
i doubt i will ever give up my love affair with sugar. staying active assures i will be able to eat goodies tomorrow!
peace,
bluelakelady
apriltones
01-18-2005, 05:31 PM
craving chocolate!!!! i have this problem. im trying to lose weight and it seems to come off so slow!!! xx
fibrofighter
01-18-2005, 07:05 PM
Ugh, I always crave chocolate too. And I do need to lose weight. I have been but I'm breast feeding and so every time I nurse I feel like I'm starving. Drinking the water doesn't seem to make me stop feeling hungry too.
I guess if I can keep exercising more it has to come off eventually right? But geez how much exercise does it take. I know I could look at one of those websites that tells you how many calories activities burn but I'm afraid the answer would depress me.
Good luck all of you!
FF
I guess if I can keep exercising more it has to come off eventually right? But geez how much exercise does it take. I know I could look at one of those websites that tells you how many calories activities burn but I'm afraid the answer would depress me.
Good luck all of you!
FF
jbot
01-18-2005, 10:15 PM
Hi tut,
I think with me I get depressed and eat more and the meds for depression don`t help. The other thing is I have arthritis and back and feet problems that limits my exersise. Also age, the older we get the harder it is. Hormone therapy for women can`t help, memopause all that wonderful stuff. I`m not thin or over weight right now. There was a time that I was over weight but desided I had to lose and ate the right foods (veggies). I do agree the ones of us that suffer from depression might have a worse problem.For the past 25 yrs I try not to let any grass grow under my feet (keep moving). The older I get the harder that is (over 50 ) but it keeps me out of the fridge and that keep the weight down. This is a horrible condition to have since the medical profession are still at odds as whetherit exist at all. How the devil can our families understand and support us when the dr say its all in our heads. They are my biggest source of depression. Sorry now i`m rambling. Hope this helps you and try to get ask yourself if you really hungry. That really helps me when the answer is no and I stop before I get food into my mouth. Hope you feeling better and chins up :) ..........jb
p.s. Salt is very bad and makes you retain fluid and that makes me blah.
I think with me I get depressed and eat more and the meds for depression don`t help. The other thing is I have arthritis and back and feet problems that limits my exersise. Also age, the older we get the harder it is. Hormone therapy for women can`t help, memopause all that wonderful stuff. I`m not thin or over weight right now. There was a time that I was over weight but desided I had to lose and ate the right foods (veggies). I do agree the ones of us that suffer from depression might have a worse problem.For the past 25 yrs I try not to let any grass grow under my feet (keep moving). The older I get the harder that is (over 50 ) but it keeps me out of the fridge and that keep the weight down. This is a horrible condition to have since the medical profession are still at odds as whetherit exist at all. How the devil can our families understand and support us when the dr say its all in our heads. They are my biggest source of depression. Sorry now i`m rambling. Hope this helps you and try to get ask yourself if you really hungry. That really helps me when the answer is no and I stop before I get food into my mouth. Hope you feeling better and chins up :) ..........jb
p.s. Salt is very bad and makes you retain fluid and that makes me blah.
wishn
01-18-2005, 11:30 PM
I thought I was the only one getting that Fibroooooooo Sppppppppppppppppread. Lordy, Lordy.... there's got to be an easier answer than....all of these Zoned Out at the Beach diets. I know there is no easy pill, Lord knows we take enough of them, but really, with all of the pain, depression, anxiety, public & family doubt...don't we deserve to be 36 24 36 again??? What a struggle. I am 48 and a size 12 and wish to see the size 7 I was until 45 and this fibro hit. Errrrrr....
Love ya, Annie :bouncing: :bouncing: :bouncing: (thats me exercising, bounce, bounce, bounce...ha ha
Love ya, Annie :bouncing: :bouncing: :bouncing: (thats me exercising, bounce, bounce, bounce...ha ha
DecLady
01-19-2005, 08:48 AM
I wasn't thin before fibro...but I am LESS thin now. Of course it always goes back to move more eat less. But, I too was one of the "gain 20 lbs on elavil" girls. PLUS got periodontal issues from sleeping with my mouth open.PLUS ended up waking up all the time even with the drug-the worst night was 11 times! Now that CAN'T be good for weight loss! I try to just make peace with my size 18 body....but I would love to be smaller...What bugs me most is the "caring" people who suggest maybe if I weighed less I would feel better!LOLOL The pain doesn't have much to do with how much I weigh..but they really don't get that. I do make a point of moving every day...I walk the dogs when it is nice out...I clean the house...I do yoga....sometimes all in the same day!LOL But, I MOSTLY try to eat healthy food - don't ALWAYS succeed, and I try to make sure that I move some every day. I am not sure what else I can do!!!
tutough
01-19-2005, 12:26 PM
Dear WISHN and DECLADY
Is there room in your boat? I feel like I should be there. I know I don't eat the right foods and don't get the right exercise, but Damn what do they expect from us. I do try to get some exorcise though. I try to walk nine holes of golf when I can, but with the snow and cold thats out for awhile. I don't suffer from as much depression as some, but i do think it contributes to the weight gain. I don't feel like giving up though, I will always try and push myself.
Is there room in your boat? I feel like I should be there. I know I don't eat the right foods and don't get the right exercise, but Damn what do they expect from us. I do try to get some exorcise though. I try to walk nine holes of golf when I can, but with the snow and cold thats out for awhile. I don't suffer from as much depression as some, but i do think it contributes to the weight gain. I don't feel like giving up though, I will always try and push myself.
nmamommy
01-19-2005, 01:28 PM
Well..I have the opposite problem. The pain is so much, I don't want to eat. This past summer there was some concern over my weight, I was too thin. I have since put on a few pounds.
Thin or not, I know I don't eat well and there is one simple reason. I don't have the energy to prepare anything that is good for me. When I do get hungry, I grab something easy...chocolate, cookies, pretzels.
When you have Fibro, the pain keeps ypu from doing so much..exercising, preparing good food, taking time shopping for good food, even just being active at all. It's hard to be "healthy".
If my foot would ever heal, maybe I could start to exercise again.
Maybe we could all try and figure out simple exercises and foods that are good for us and easy to prepare.
Just a thought.
Maria
Thin or not, I know I don't eat well and there is one simple reason. I don't have the energy to prepare anything that is good for me. When I do get hungry, I grab something easy...chocolate, cookies, pretzels.
When you have Fibro, the pain keeps ypu from doing so much..exercising, preparing good food, taking time shopping for good food, even just being active at all. It's hard to be "healthy".
If my foot would ever heal, maybe I could start to exercise again.
Maybe we could all try and figure out simple exercises and foods that are good for us and easy to prepare.
Just a thought.
Maria
nmamommy
01-19-2005, 01:31 PM
PS
Some meds, especially anti depressants, can make you feel like you are always hungry and so you gain weight. I gained 40 lbs on Paxil. I switched meds and it came right off.
Maria
Some meds, especially anti depressants, can make you feel like you are always hungry and so you gain weight. I gained 40 lbs on Paxil. I switched meds and it came right off.
Maria
noinwi
01-19-2005, 05:42 PM
I've struggled with my weight my whole life, but kept it reined in to that "extra 10", until the last few years when my fibro(of 20 years) started to flare badly and has not stopped. My weight has gone up as my activity level has gone down. I'm menopausal to boot, and utterly disgusted with myself.
jollyjan
01-28-2005, 08:55 AM
I too could do with losing a couple of stone. I walk the dog for upto two hours a day, this hurts me but I feel I have to do something. It is hard for FM sufferers to exercise due to pain levels. I get down sometimes but try to look positive as if I let depression creep in as well my weight would spiral out of control as I comfort eat.
I do however think that cocktails of drugs do not help. I am on six different meds and who knows what combos of drugs do.
keep smiling
Jan
I do however think that cocktails of drugs do not help. I am on six different meds and who knows what combos of drugs do.
keep smiling
Jan
terrerizer
01-30-2005, 04:42 PM
I agree with everything you are saying. I have started doing Pilates. It only takes 20 minutes a day & it is not hard at all. I am seeing results very quickly from this exercise. I have also found it helps my muscles to hurt a little less if I do it 3 times a week. I bought my video set on Ebay for only $5.00.
tkgoodspirit
01-30-2005, 05:41 PM
When I quit my job 2 years ago I was 5'7" and a size 10. As soon as I started on Effexor I went up a size. Then when I quit work, I went up another size. However, due to a lot of anxiety I am usually nauseated, so I am now between a size 10 and a 12. However, my nice firm muscles have now turned to noodles!
I think it's a combination of meds, inactivity and our reaction to the stress in our lives.
Well, there's my two cents.
And after reading the previous post about all that chocolate and BLL's reference to chocolate and p-nut butter, I'm going in the kitchen now to get some Reese's Peanut Butter Ice Cream! Now there's a reason to eat!
Love to you all,
tk
I think it's a combination of meds, inactivity and our reaction to the stress in our lives.
Well, there's my two cents.
And after reading the previous post about all that chocolate and BLL's reference to chocolate and p-nut butter, I'm going in the kitchen now to get some Reese's Peanut Butter Ice Cream! Now there's a reason to eat!
Love to you all,
tk
Dolphin43
01-30-2005, 05:52 PM
Hi my name is dolphin 43
I have decided to eat healthier foods from now on if i do then i have found i have more energy somehow will have to see how it goes i have a very slow metabolism too wish i could find some way to speed it up ive read if u take rhidola rosea capsules from the heath food shop it helps am going to buy some when i go to town next.
If anyone tries the above let me know how u get on ok.
dolphin43
I have decided to eat healthier foods from now on if i do then i have found i have more energy somehow will have to see how it goes i have a very slow metabolism too wish i could find some way to speed it up ive read if u take rhidola rosea capsules from the heath food shop it helps am going to buy some when i go to town next.
If anyone tries the above let me know how u get on ok.
dolphin43
bluelakelady
02-03-2005, 03:00 PM
diet, exercise and attitude. mostly attitude. find your balance and you will start the process of shrinking. i cannot stress the need for exercise enough.
hey tk, how was the ice cream? i stay away from ice cream except in the summer when i swim in the lake every day for at least two hours. if i indulge in ice cream i can dump 10lbs on in a flash. that's why i stick to candy, giggle. the one you had is my all time favorite. we had it for my granddaughters birthday. i had to swim extra laps to restore the balance. worth every stroke!!
peace,
bluelakelady
hey tk, how was the ice cream? i stay away from ice cream except in the summer when i swim in the lake every day for at least two hours. if i indulge in ice cream i can dump 10lbs on in a flash. that's why i stick to candy, giggle. the one you had is my all time favorite. we had it for my granddaughters birthday. i had to swim extra laps to restore the balance. worth every stroke!!
peace,
bluelakelady
pastrygirl
02-03-2005, 06:07 PM
I myself gained alot of weight when I started taking antideppresents, and through conversation have found that most people do. I think it is because of seratonin levels in the brain. Sugar and carbs help release seratonin in the brain, so if your levels are low, you will tend to eat more of these things - I know I do! After my rheumy raised the mgs of my ssri(Paxil Cr), the cravings seemed to have dissappeared and my pain levels are greatly reduced. Maybe those of you out there on ssris need a mg boost! Since January I have finally lost 8 pounds without trying, and I haven't been excersing or dieting either. Maybe something to try! Good Luck to all!
tkgoodspirit
02-03-2005, 11:12 PM
I can now recall when I was first dx'd with FM and my doc put me on Effexor ( I eventually got up to 225mg) I was still working and I noticed my pants getting a little tighter, just what everyone woman loves!, and I couldn't for the life of me figure out how I was gaining weight when I was actually working harding (switched from nights to early days) and eating less.
Now I know, thanks to all of you. My doc didn't tell me about the weight gain, nor did she tell me about the horrible withdrawl symptoms when I came off the Effexor. Nor did she tell me that my feelings would all but disappear. Can you tell, I didn't like Effexor? I skimmed the precaution sheet you get with a new med, so I missed all the good warnings! LOL One thing I am grateful for, I was on Effexor while my mom was dying and after she died, other wise I probably would have been a mess, on the other hand, I think some people were offended by my "lack of emotion" during her illness and at her funeral. I guess I should have worn a sign around my neck saying "taking meds, please excuse my lack of emotion" LOL
So, no more Effexor, Cymbalta, Wellbutrin, whathaveyou, for me. I'll go the supplemental route and stick with my Klonopin to help me sleep. It's funny, cuz, as I would gain weight my friend (ex-coworker) who was always an itty bitty thing was gaining weight, so I'd pass her my size 10 clothes and have to buy new ones that weren't "gripping" around my hips and thighs! LOL
Ahhh, FM. Love it!
Good day my fellow Fibromites,
tk
Now I know, thanks to all of you. My doc didn't tell me about the weight gain, nor did she tell me about the horrible withdrawl symptoms when I came off the Effexor. Nor did she tell me that my feelings would all but disappear. Can you tell, I didn't like Effexor? I skimmed the precaution sheet you get with a new med, so I missed all the good warnings! LOL One thing I am grateful for, I was on Effexor while my mom was dying and after she died, other wise I probably would have been a mess, on the other hand, I think some people were offended by my "lack of emotion" during her illness and at her funeral. I guess I should have worn a sign around my neck saying "taking meds, please excuse my lack of emotion" LOL
So, no more Effexor, Cymbalta, Wellbutrin, whathaveyou, for me. I'll go the supplemental route and stick with my Klonopin to help me sleep. It's funny, cuz, as I would gain weight my friend (ex-coworker) who was always an itty bitty thing was gaining weight, so I'd pass her my size 10 clothes and have to buy new ones that weren't "gripping" around my hips and thighs! LOL
Ahhh, FM. Love it!
Good day my fellow Fibromites,
tk
ChronicallyFatigued
02-04-2005, 03:59 AM
There are a few reasons why people the CFS/FMS gain weight...The obvious ones are fatigue and pain resulting in a sedentary lifestyle and side effects from antidepressants, hormone, or steriod therapies. One of the most compelling reasons for weight gain are from thinking of CFS/FMS as a metabolic disorder. Fatigue, exercise intolerance, and post-exertional malaise are sure signs that something in the aerobic/anaerobic systems are malfunctioning. Calories are not being used efficiently so the body will tend to store them. The malfunction I heard can lie anywhere from depleted vitamins and amino acids to insufficient T4 to T3 converions to low growth hormone and testosterone levels. Of course, they are just theories, however it seems logical to me that there could be several factors at play. What is most difficult, however, it actually trying to lose the weight---as if it isn't hard enough to do anyway, how about trying to lose weight all these underlying problems? Not easy.