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Tim W
09-27-2001, 05:20 PM
I have put together a nutrient-based protocol, based on scientific data from the National Institutes of Health. This protocol reverses all forms of cancer. If you want to be cancer free, contact me for complete data, and protocol details. Let me help you cure your own cancer, or someone you love.
Sincerely, Tim W.

s335983
09-30-2001, 07:10 AM
Tim,

reading ur posting made me very angry! I found ur claim "This protocol reverses all forms of cancer." ridiculus and at best over-exaggerated. Lots of people here have to deal with serious and stressful health conditions and they don't need impossible and questionable claims like urs. I highly question ur "altruistic" purpose.

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Tim W
10-01-2001, 11:38 AM
I'm sorry you are offended. This information does that to a whole bunch of people. You need to go to MEDLINE, which is the National intitutes of Health website, and look up the following nutrients: I3C, IP6, omega-3, selenomethionine, quercetin, curcumin, and CLA. The amount of data is overwhelming, on the multi-national research that has been done on these supplements. I have taken this research and put it into practical application, with tremendous results. Anyone can do the same. I hope you can learn something, that can benefit your health, on medline. Good health to you

s335983
10-03-2001, 03:03 AM
have u done any double blind randomised control tirals on ur "applications"?

Just because a compound show promising effect compared to placebo doesn't mean it will come close to guarenteing to reverse all cancers. I suggest u modify ur claims. Or show us ur results

By the way good Medline is a search engine for clinical trials that is avaliable on many websites. The best collections are to be found in THe Cochrane Collabration because they ahve been peer evaluated and they are composed of numerous trials combined into a meta-anaylysis.

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Tim W
10-03-2001, 04:36 PM
Some data is based on "method of action", other data is "outcome based". Sometimes, in this life, you have to have "faith". The question to ask of science is, "How many anecdotal reports does it take to equal "one" scientific fact. In all of the fantastic research that has been done, pharmaceutical interests will never publish research data on a "vitamin" that they have found "cures" anything.
They told my 68yr old, heavy smoker neighbor that his small cell lung cancer was terminal. The obstructive tumor in his throat was completely gone in 4wks. This was discovered when he went in for his second chemo treatment. The doctors were amazedl. He also had a large tumor taking up most of his left lung extending from the front to back of his plural cavity. After a couple of months, MRI showed the tumor to be down to less than an inch in diameter. He receive cisplatin and radio, never lost his hair, weight or white cell count. This does not normally happen with this type of treatment. All thru treatment, the oncologists refused to talk about what he was doing, except to try to talk him out of what he was doing.
Man in his 40's get brain tumor from malignant melanoma, which he was told he was cured from, one year earlier. Upon surgical removal of the tumor, and being on the vitamin cocktail for 4days, pathology report showed necrosis.
These are just a couple of "stories". Anecdotal, yes. Maybe I made these stories up. Words are cheap. All I can say is people need to research selenomethionine, inositol hexaphosphate, indole-3 carbinol, omega-3, quercetin, CLA, curcumin AND cancer, on MEDLINE.
Thanks for the tip on your medline. Goodaiye Mate

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MelanieB
10-05-2001, 06:16 PM
Posts like Tim's really tick me off. Your story about melanoma in particular, only because I'm all too familiar with that terrible disease. Melanoma is one of the cancers with the highest rates of unexplained spontaneous remission. Your story could very well be that. If you are going to post a statement as bold as "this will cure cancer" it would be in your best interest to have concrete studies on it, not just antectotal stories and one-liners like "research these supplements and you'll see". Frankly I don't buy it for one second. If there were a cure for cancer out there, you certainly wouldn't be the only one who knows about it.

Has there been a clinical trial on the treatment you suggest, of randomized sample sets using your coctail, as well as those receiving a placebo and/or differing doses? Did the people all have the same cancer, at similar stages, with similar metastises? Many clinical trials are limited to specific disease, such as stage 4 malignant melanoma with brain mets and no other mets elsewhere. Was your brain met patient part of such a trial, using your coctail, along with many other brain met patients receiving randomized placebos and varying doses? If your answers are YES, and a significantly high percentage of the patients receiving the coctails had tumour shrinkage/disappearance and are now NED, then show me the documentation, show it to the NCI, and get every cancer patient on it. The mere fact that you post it HERE and don't bring it forward to the NCI or some other major cancer institute, makes me doubt you even more. If your answers are NO, then you have no legitimate claim to know the cure for cancer. And you are immorally giving cancer patients false hope by making such claims if a documented clinical trial was not done.

Melanie

Tim W
10-07-2001, 06:54 PM
Selenomethionine, ornithine decarboxylase, polyamine production, thioredoxin reductase. These are some of the terms that you need to take a look at.
Selenium works in a dose and time dependent manner, to limit polyamine production necessary for hyperproliferation in many cancers.
As far as the NCI goes, they have no intention what so ever of revealing a "cure" for cancer. The financial interests behind the pharmaceutical industry will do everything in their power to see to it that a natural "cure" never achieves any level of credibility.
I'm done with this thread. Go and find your own hope for the future. I will continue to help those who have ears to hear. Tim W. signing off.

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