kikaida01
01-25-2005, 10:22 PM
Does anyone believe in the mapping theory where someone touches your body feeling for lumps and bumps versus a medical doctor feeling for tender points? I think it is Dr. St. Arman's theory using the mappy method. I had a lady who mapped me and said I had fibromyalgia but the only pain I have is tmj symptoms. She said I had all the classic bumps and lumps of a person who has fibromyalgia. She said she has never been wrong. I then went to see a Rheumatologist who did her diagnosis by feeling for tender points and I felt absolutely nothing. She said if I had tender points it would hurt and would confirm I had fibromyalgia. What do you think about all this? Who would you believe?
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kcgage
01-25-2005, 11:52 PM
I've never heard of mapping before.........just my two cents -- did you have to pay this lady for mapping? I know when someone touches my tender points, I jump and almost knock them in the face as a reaction. To me, it really hurts especially the ones in my back.
If you are unsure, maybe you should speak to your own doctor or get a referral for a second opinion to another rheumatologist. Do u have any other FM symptoms?
If you are unsure, maybe you should speak to your own doctor or get a referral for a second opinion to another rheumatologist. Do u have any other FM symptoms?
builder
01-26-2005, 08:14 AM
Well I had the same experience. I went to two of the top rated Rheumies in Chicago. How do I know they were tops? They are listed every year in publications for the best in their field in Chicago. Anyway both did the tender point test. The first time I felt nothing. The second time I felt a little. One doc says I have fibro the other says I don't. I went to a Neurologist who said I had Fibro also. He claims the tender point test is nonsense since fibro patients do not have tissue inflammation with this disease. Some researcher did biopsies on tissue from several tender point areas of fibro patients and there was no inflammtion. That is why anti imflammitory drugs have little effect on fibro pain. Makes sense to me. I've never heard of mapping.
JenniferEvelynn
01-26-2005, 12:00 PM
Hi all,
I haven't heard of mapping either. I've also read in various publications that you don't necessarily need to have tender points or even a specific number of tender points to be diagnosed with FM. It's very frustrating to be told by numerous doctors that you do/do not have FM - especially when they aren't in agreement. My opinion on mapping - even though I've not heard of it, it sounds like a bunch of baloney.
God bless, Jen
I haven't heard of mapping either. I've also read in various publications that you don't necessarily need to have tender points or even a specific number of tender points to be diagnosed with FM. It's very frustrating to be told by numerous doctors that you do/do not have FM - especially when they aren't in agreement. My opinion on mapping - even though I've not heard of it, it sounds like a bunch of baloney.
God bless, Jen
bilij
01-26-2005, 02:08 PM
Hello folks, when I went on my search to find out why I was hurting
so much with no apparent reason, my last stop was a rheumotoligst.
We had no rheum. in the hospital where I had retired a year earlier
as an RN on the surgery floor. I had seen a family practitioner,an internist,
an osteopathic doctor. All had said it was arthritis and wanted me to
take Celebrex or one of those drugs. I refused. I finally, after a year of constant
hurting, found a rheumotoligst who did blood work, xrays and several
other test all were neg. for arthritis. Then he had me sit on the end of
the exam table and he put his hands on my upper back and pressed. I
honestly thought he had stuck a knife in my back. I came off that table
and broke out in a sweat . I tried the Elavil but stayed in a daze that did
not ease the pain. I went back to the D.O. who prescribed Ambien and
Ultram for pain. I still hurt all the time, but at least I'm not still looking
for the reason. Some of you are finding solutions that makes your life
easier. Whatever works for you, that's the things to do. My prayers are
with you all as you cross my mind each day.
Bilij
so much with no apparent reason, my last stop was a rheumotoligst.
We had no rheum. in the hospital where I had retired a year earlier
as an RN on the surgery floor. I had seen a family practitioner,an internist,
an osteopathic doctor. All had said it was arthritis and wanted me to
take Celebrex or one of those drugs. I refused. I finally, after a year of constant
hurting, found a rheumotoligst who did blood work, xrays and several
other test all were neg. for arthritis. Then he had me sit on the end of
the exam table and he put his hands on my upper back and pressed. I
honestly thought he had stuck a knife in my back. I came off that table
and broke out in a sweat . I tried the Elavil but stayed in a daze that did
not ease the pain. I went back to the D.O. who prescribed Ambien and
Ultram for pain. I still hurt all the time, but at least I'm not still looking
for the reason. Some of you are finding solutions that makes your life
easier. Whatever works for you, that's the things to do. My prayers are
with you all as you cross my mind each day.
Bilij
apriltones
01-27-2005, 07:27 PM
hi, do they do body mapping in uk? is there any one i could see who will now pressure/trigger points? thanks, aprilx