Nermal1975
02-01-2005, 07:37 PM
If you read my last post entitled "Help!!", you'll know my diastolic was getting in the pre-hypertensive stage (between 80-89). Well, the week before that my bp was around 119/79 with a couple of readings like 128/83. I didn't get it, how could it be so good and then turn bad? I realized I was taking garlic pills (I had a cold and I read that this is a natural expectorant.) I got back on the garlic pills to see if it would help my blood pressure (like in other literature I've been reading) and BAMMO! My bp down to the 120/80 norm.
Has anyone else tried this? I doubt it would help people in the 160/100 range, but it's worth a shot.
Has anyone else tried this? I doubt it would help people in the 160/100 range, but it's worth a shot.
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Lenin
02-02-2005, 10:21 AM
OK...
Pasta alia e olio tonight...
Pasta alia e olio tonight...
mrmojo
02-02-2005, 08:15 PM
What dosage are you taking of the garlic?
Thanks
Thanks
Moxie75
02-03-2005, 07:57 AM
What strength are the pills in camparison to the real thing? I am Italian and I cook with garlic. In my house garlic is god it goes in everything including my cakes :D :D Just kidding..I do eat alot of garlic and still I'm on Diovan. I'm still going to try to get off these meds but right now I have alot going on and it will have to wait until a few months down the road.....Lisa
jtu91952
02-03-2005, 12:40 PM
I eat two cloves of garlic everyday. I also drink two cups of green tea daily. however, i still have to bp meds. I guess garlic is benefical to some in bp, but others like me still need the little help.
Mr. Detail
02-03-2005, 01:17 PM
Nermal;
Which garlic tabs are you taking?
I just started taking a product named "Garlicin" made by
Nature's Way. It is odorless and has a powerful release of allicin which is supposedly the most important part of the garlic. Let me know.
Which garlic tabs are you taking?
I just started taking a product named "Garlicin" made by
Nature's Way. It is odorless and has a powerful release of allicin which is supposedly the most important part of the garlic. Let me know.
Nermal1975
02-04-2005, 01:01 AM
It's just straight up garlic (Nature's Made.) I take two pills a day (1,250 mg per pill.) I've noticed a difference. So, far my bp has been very good...118/77 and 120/80! I never got a bp right on the nose of 120/80! I'm a believer in this stuff. The garlic also claims to lower cholesterol which mine is probably pretty high. All I can say is try it. The worst that can happen is your out $6 bucks.
Granted, my bp was getting in the 130s/high 80s-low 90s. But since I've been taking it religiously for a week and a half, I'm no longer worried about the outcome when I put that cuff on. Let's see. I have a OB/GYN appointment tomorrow. I'll let you guys know how that goes (with the blood pressure I mean; the other stuff would be kind of gross.)
Granted, my bp was getting in the 130s/high 80s-low 90s. But since I've been taking it religiously for a week and a half, I'm no longer worried about the outcome when I put that cuff on. Let's see. I have a OB/GYN appointment tomorrow. I'll let you guys know how that goes (with the blood pressure I mean; the other stuff would be kind of gross.)
bharkins
02-04-2005, 12:02 PM
I was very interested in trying garlic to lower BP. In searching for interactions with BP meds, I discovered that anyone taking aspirin (which I must take everyday) along with garlic can run the risk of excessive dangerous bleeding. It too has the same potential as aspirin in thinning the blood. I plan on asking my doctor if I can stop the aspirin and start garlic. Hopefully it will also lower my cholesterol which has increased since taking BP meds.
jtu91952
02-04-2005, 12:09 PM
Bharkins, i noticed that also that asprin, vit. e and garlic is suppose to thin the blood and work in the same way. Also, i researched and found that asprin with a diuretic or ccb should not be taken at the same time. On rxlist it stated that asprin can make these drugs ineffective. I called my cardio and she said i could stop the asprin for two wks to see if my bp would still be lowered. After stopping asprin, that's when i got the 130something.
Norvasc is a good bp med but i can't tolerate the back pain. On to clonidine.
Norvasc is a good bp med but i can't tolerate the back pain. On to clonidine.
bharkins
02-04-2005, 12:14 PM
JTU, Thanks for the tip. I will discuss this with my doctor on 2/15.
mrmojo
02-04-2005, 02:34 PM
Oh, great - my doctor had me on asprin with every med he gave me - i wonder if thats why none of them ever worked right
mgraylorn
02-04-2005, 02:57 PM
JTU, I like the rxlist and check it a lot. I read about Tiazac, the ccb I take. I can't find anything about not taking aspirin with it. All I could find was to be careful with anesthetics. My doctor suggested I take a low dose aspirin when I was first diagnosed with hbp, and I've continued that.
I also checked one of the drug interaction websites and all I got were hits to avoid alcohol with aspirin and grapefruit juice with ccbs. Nothing about ccbs and aspirin.
I also checked one of the drug interaction websites and all I got were hits to avoid alcohol with aspirin and grapefruit juice with ccbs. Nothing about ccbs and aspirin.
bharkins
02-04-2005, 04:27 PM
MOJO,
I take four different types of BP meds and aspirin and the combo finally works well. Go figure. However, I intend to mention it to my doctor.
I take four different types of BP meds and aspirin and the combo finally works well. Go figure. However, I intend to mention it to my doctor.
jtu91952
02-04-2005, 07:48 PM
JTU, I like the rxlist and check it a lot. I read about Tiazac, the ccb I take. I can't find anything about not taking aspirin with it. All I could find was to be careful with anesthetics. My doctor suggested I take a low dose aspirin when I was first diagnosed with hbp, and I've continued that.
I also checked one of the drug interaction websites and all I got were hits to avoid alcohol with aspirin and grapefruit juice with ccbs. Nothing about ccbs and aspirin.
:wave: Mgraylor, i used the drug tracker. I put all the meds i take on a regular basis, verapamil, norvasc, (use to take until today) torsemide, levothroid. The report came back that verapamil, norvasc and torsemide (with asprin) were drug-drug and it stated that asprin made these ineffective. Of course i take a full adult asprin. My cardio took me off the 81mgs and put me on 325mgs.
I took myself off the asprin after reading that on the drug tracker at drug.com My numbers did come down from 180/72 to 150/80. I will have to go back on asprin, but i will wait until i go back to my gp for his ok. Sorry, it wasn't rxlist but drugs.com
I also checked one of the drug interaction websites and all I got were hits to avoid alcohol with aspirin and grapefruit juice with ccbs. Nothing about ccbs and aspirin.
:wave: Mgraylor, i used the drug tracker. I put all the meds i take on a regular basis, verapamil, norvasc, (use to take until today) torsemide, levothroid. The report came back that verapamil, norvasc and torsemide (with asprin) were drug-drug and it stated that asprin made these ineffective. Of course i take a full adult asprin. My cardio took me off the 81mgs and put me on 325mgs.
I took myself off the asprin after reading that on the drug tracker at drug.com My numbers did come down from 180/72 to 150/80. I will have to go back on asprin, but i will wait until i go back to my gp for his ok. Sorry, it wasn't rxlist but drugs.com
Nermal1975
02-06-2005, 01:36 AM
Well, I went to my OB/GYN appt on Friday and my bp was at 140/90. Of course this just adds evidence to the white coat theory because I took my bp at home just an hour before at it was 123/83. After my exam, she took it again. It went down to 120/88.
I'm not giving up on the garlic therapy. I have found that my appetite is suppressed a tad while I'm on it (I don't know if that's a result of the garlic), it's a great expectorant for my allergies/asthma plus I'm seeing results in my bp. I'm sold on it. Again, I take two pills a day (1,250 mg per pill) with no side effects (nausea, indigestion, bad breath.)
I'm not giving up on the garlic therapy. I have found that my appetite is suppressed a tad while I'm on it (I don't know if that's a result of the garlic), it's a great expectorant for my allergies/asthma plus I'm seeing results in my bp. I'm sold on it. Again, I take two pills a day (1,250 mg per pill) with no side effects (nausea, indigestion, bad breath.)
Lenin
02-06-2005, 09:53 AM
jtu,
Thanks for the aspirin tip. I've always taken plenty and usually WITH my BP meds. So if I go back on them, I'll try to take them at a different time from the aspirin.
On the garlic as a blood thinner. For many of us the extra thinning is a PLUS; I welcome it and it's sure a LOT safer than PLAVIX and aspirin which many doctors are "pushing" these days.
Thanks for the aspirin tip. I've always taken plenty and usually WITH my BP meds. So if I go back on them, I'll try to take them at a different time from the aspirin.
On the garlic as a blood thinner. For many of us the extra thinning is a PLUS; I welcome it and it's sure a LOT safer than PLAVIX and aspirin which many doctors are "pushing" these days.
bharkins
02-06-2005, 12:19 PM
Would four hours after BP meds be sufficient for taking aspirin?
jtu91952
02-06-2005, 06:34 PM
That's what i started doing. It was a little difficult at first bcuz i tried to take my asprin when i took the levothroid med. I needed food w/ asprin but none with levothroid.
Lenin, i also take the garlic and the vitamin e. I was told my blood was too sticky, i knew plavix was the next script so i just started the vit. e, asprin and garlic. I had a blood draw last week and now my blood platelet are fine. As for the asprin/ccb, i was so shocked i had to go to another drug tracker site to check it again. Maybe that's why my bp wasn't going down too much.
Lenin, i also take the garlic and the vitamin e. I was told my blood was too sticky, i knew plavix was the next script so i just started the vit. e, asprin and garlic. I had a blood draw last week and now my blood platelet are fine. As for the asprin/ccb, i was so shocked i had to go to another drug tracker site to check it again. Maybe that's why my bp wasn't going down too much.