If you are not a registered member of our community, please click here to register...

 Home Message Boards Health Guide Join for Free Testimonials About Us
Search
   
  


PDA

View Full Version : fake meat? yuck!


 

 

 
SammyT
02-03-2005, 01:11 AM
o m g. i just saw a commercial for like. El Naturel or something..and its chicken. but its not meat. its low fat, tastes and looks like chiken. but isnt chicken. YUCK! :eek: is that even healthy for u?!

Sponsor
 



PJ59
02-03-2005, 01:35 AM
Hi,In my opinion there is nothing like the real stuff.One can find organic grown meat that is very healthy compared to the processed types of meats .With processed meat,one hasn't a clue if we are eating pulverized bones,feathers,or what. Stick to the real meat and you will also make the American ranchers happy!!!!

llamamuffinmama
02-03-2005, 02:08 AM
there are a lot of vegetarian foods that look and taste something like chicken and other meats. you might think they're weird at first (i did, too), but consider the following:

a) a lot of them taste really good
b)they're cholesterol free, lower in saturated fat, have no growth hormones or antibiotics, won't risk giving you salmonella or a bunch of other pathogens (unlike meat which have all of the above), etc...
c) they are in fact made of real foods that you're probably consuming anyway (i.e. plant proteins, grains, etc)- so it's not "fake" _food_, just not the actual flesh of a formerly living being.
d)they certainly couldn't be any grosser than the decomposing corpse of a small tortured and murdered bird. you have a nice meal and nobody has to lose her life-seems like a pretty good deal to me. :)

i haven't tried this particular brand, but there are a lot of good products out there if you're open to giving them a chance.

upshutter17
02-03-2005, 02:22 AM
Are you kidding me? The substitutes are awesome! I personally love tofu and soy meat.
Upshutter
:)

SammyT
02-03-2005, 09:30 AM
well..i never tried it be4, but the sound of it is just quivering lol

Cuppycake
02-03-2005, 09:57 AM
The El Natural "chicken breasts" are actually really good. I've only been a veggie for a few weeks now, but they are one of my favorites. I like to put them on salads. I've only found a few other meat substitutes that I like, boca burgers are one of them. With all the fixings of a regular burger, you can hardly taste the difference.

Jess75
02-03-2005, 10:36 AM
I tried tofu once and wanted to puke(sorry) but I never tried this chicken. I'll have to write down the name and give it a try but I have a feeling I'm not going to like it, lol. Anyways, I always wanted to know this, does this "fake chicken" have the all the amino acids in it that meat has?

Losec20mg
02-03-2005, 11:20 AM
ewwwwwww i don't eat fake stuff.. :)

Jess75
02-03-2005, 11:28 AM
ewwwwwww i don't eat fake stuff.. :)
Yah and your ***** don't stink either! HEHEHE :D

Losec20mg
02-03-2005, 12:02 PM
Yah and you ***** don't stink either! HEHEHE :D

LOL, Jess.. sounds like you'r in good mood again :) are you ok??

Jess75
02-03-2005, 01:10 PM
LOL, Jess.. sounds like you'r in good mood again :) are you ok??
Yah, I guess you can say I'm in a good mood today. :) And yah I'm okay, how bout you?

Losec20mg
02-03-2005, 01:36 PM
me im great..:D.. if i eat right I must feel good, right.?? ;)

later Jess.. ;)

Humrz28
02-03-2005, 02:10 PM
I've tryed tofu/soy etc... and in my opinion it is NASTY! I would eat sushi before I even touch that stuff again (and I hate sushi, lol). God made animals for a reason.. and that was to nourish us... so I will stick with my meats and veggies and other foods, lol. But, to each thier own... if you can eat that stuff... my respect goes to you 100% :bouncing:

Jess75
02-03-2005, 03:23 PM
I've tryed tofu/soy etc... and in my opinion it is NASTY! I would eat sushi before I even touch that stuff again (and I hate sushi, lol). God made animals for a reason.. and that was to nourish us... so I will stick with my meats and veggies and other foods, lol. But, to each thier own... if you can eat that stuff... my respect goes to you 100% :bouncing:
I'm SO inbetween on this subject of eating meat. I can relate to the one side (vegetarians) and the other(omnivores). They ate meat in the bible, but then again it is cruel how they treat the animals, especially the (non organic farmed) animals. But, animals would overpopulate the earth if none of us ate meat and they would die one way or the other. Plus animals eat other animals to survive, it's natural evolution. So, like I said, I'm inbetween on this one, but I definitely don't like tofu/soy, LOL.blah!

Losec20mg
02-03-2005, 04:26 PM
i can't live without meat Jess..well duh!! Im a man :)..

Jess75
02-03-2005, 05:12 PM
i can't live without meat Jess..well duh!! Im a man :)..
What does being a man have ta do with it? :confused:

Losec20mg
02-03-2005, 08:27 PM
remember the cavemen..lol..

Blue102
02-03-2005, 08:33 PM
You two crack me up...

Jess75
02-03-2005, 08:43 PM
remember the cavemen..lol..
Yah, I remember the cavemen but uh....you can still live without meat! LOL And cavewomen also ate meat right? So what does being a man versus a women have to do with it? I still don't get it, maybe you or someone can give me a brief review.lol

Losec20mg
02-03-2005, 09:11 PM
haha you just came and, edit your post..Lately iv been in a joking mood Jess.. but, ya know..Anyways, personaly I love meat..I have it pretty much everyday..tis homecooking im talking about..i always have beans too, chich-peas..or tuna..anyhow I aim for protien bacuz I need it..but, i really never count what amounts im eating..I know you eat meat bacuz I remember..but, if you'r not having meat "that" day, then how do you get your protien..beans, and, what else..I know you hate TOFU..lol :)..

ha Jess.. people are laughing at us ..lol

I think we both need protien, some get it from meat and, some>>veggie girl get it from tofu..ayayay..JOKE :)

Jess75
02-03-2005, 09:36 PM
haha you just came and, edit your post..Lately iv been in a joking mood Jess.. but, ya know..Anyways, personaly I love meat..I have it pretty much everyday..tis homecooking im talking about..i always have beans too, chich-peas..or tuna..anyhow I aim for protien bacuz I need it..but, i really never count what amounts im eating..I know you eat meat bacuz I remember..but, if you'r not having meat "that" day, then how do you get your protien..beans, and, what else..I know you hate TOFU..lol :)..

ha Jess.. people are laughing at us ..lol

I think we both need protien, some get it from meat and, some>>veggie girl get it from tofu..ayayay..JOKE :)
I'm glad your in a joking mood. :) hehehe, I know were making the poster crack up. lol. Anyways, how did you know I edited my post, lol, last ?

Losec20mg
02-03-2005, 09:50 PM
babababacuz I checked..lol I always check your posts :)..there are some smart peoples round here..and, you'r one of them. :)

I had smoked ham with pine-apples tonight..mm

Jess75
02-03-2005, 10:15 PM
babababacuz I checked..lol I always check your posts :)..there are some smart peoples round here..and, you'r one of them. :)

I had smoked ham with pine-apples tonight..mm
Sounds AWESOME!

Oh yah and I forgot to answer your ? about how I get protein on my non meat days. Supposively, beans and rice together constitute a "complete" protein and I'll also have yogurt and cottage cheese as other protein sources. :p
Layta L. :cool:

Losec20mg
02-03-2005, 10:46 PM
oh i love those ;).. i also make the rice with beans or tuna, hehe and, cottage cheese i mix it in my pasta..mmmm with my meat suace..galor protien..LOL..

layta ;)

SammyT
02-03-2005, 11:17 PM
haha o u guys!:) lol. i love the fact that my post started on fake meats, and then turned into ur fav foods..hehe i luv it!

Toodles! :wave:

Losec20mg
02-03-2005, 11:54 PM
hahahahheheh anyways bottom line..do not eat fake food or fake meat..ever..make your own and, learn to cook, I think its such a wonderful thing to cook and, know exactly what you'r eating. :)

hope you learnt somtin :)

veggie girl
02-04-2005, 12:22 AM
doh doh DOH!!! :o

veggie girl
02-04-2005, 12:24 AM
Actually Morningstar Farms has veggie burgers to DIE for!!! I've fed them to many a meateater who loves them! They also have 'chicken wings' that are great too.

There are many veggie 'meat' products that are extremely tasty. 'Tofu pups' are GREAT!!! They're JUST like hotdogs.

When you think about it, the only reason they taste like meat is because they have the same flavorings as meat coz alone, meat doesn't really taste of a whole lot.

Jess75
02-04-2005, 12:26 AM
haha. Good to see you doing your part to prevent overpopulation!! bravo!! (now what about human overpopulation??!!) haha
What's that supposed to mean? What part I(personally) doing?

Losec20mg
02-04-2005, 12:29 AM
she proly means bacuz we eat meat..veggie girl is very sensitive :)..

Jess75
02-04-2005, 12:30 AM
Oh well, she doesn't have to get upset by saying "bravo" sarcastically. I know it's a touchy subject so I won't even go any further.

veggie girl
02-04-2005, 12:31 AM
What's that supposed to mean? What part I(personally) doing?

haha. I was joking coz you said you only meat coz otherwise they'd be too many animals!!

No offense meant :)

veggie girl
02-04-2005, 12:32 AM
Oh well, she doesn't have to get upset by saying "bravo" sarcastically. I know it's a touchy subject so I won't even go any further.

NO!! YOu misunderstood, it was totally a joke (i wasn't being sarcastic at all)

I'm not at all offended by people eating meat (i'm not THAT kind of veggie!)

Jess75
02-04-2005, 12:32 AM
haha. I was joking coz you said you only meat coz otherwise they'd be too many animals!!

No offense meant :)
Okay, you sounded a little upset to me for a second. :)

veggie girl
02-04-2005, 12:36 AM
Okay, you sounded a little upset to me for a second. :)


NO!! When I read your post it made me laugh coz - for some reason - I visualized New York streets full of cows that were overunning the city.And that you said you were helping just sounded funny.

Please, I hope i didn't offend, I was absolutely NOT meaning too.

Jess75
02-04-2005, 12:36 AM
NO!! YOu misunderstood, it was totally a joke (i wasn't being sarcastic at all)

I'm not at all offended by people eating meat (i'm not THAT kind of veggie!)
Like I said, I'm "inbetween" opinions on this subject. :)

veggie girl
02-04-2005, 12:39 AM
she proly means bacuz we eat meat..veggie girl is very sensitive :)..

haha. me no sensitive. ;)

veggie girl
02-04-2005, 12:41 AM
Like I said, I'm "inbetween" opinions on this subject. I'm glad your not mad. :)


More than anything, I'm concerned about Losecmgs poop being GREEN!!! haha. HOW weird is THAT!! haha

Losec20mg
02-04-2005, 12:42 AM
LMAO..to kool..

oh yeah and, when i eat beets i have red poop..lol

ps: im a martian..lol..

Jess75
02-04-2005, 12:47 AM
Yah, haha, green poop is kinda wierd. Losec is very knowledgeable about the color and smell(no smell he says) of his poop.lol :D

Hahaha, do maritans REALLY have red poop...hahaha just kiddin.

Losec20mg
02-04-2005, 12:51 AM
Yah, haha, green poop is kinda wierd. Losec is very knowledgeable about the color and smell(no smell he says) of his poop.lol :D

Hahaha, do maritans REALLY have red poop...hahaha just kiddin.

man o man aren't we having a blast.??..and, yup Jess.. you got it..(no smell)..isn't that a healthy poop..winnie the poop..lol

LMao..:)

veggie girl
02-04-2005, 12:54 AM
Yah, haha, green poop is kinda wierd. Losec is very knowledgeable about the color and smell(no smell he says) of his poop.lol :D

Hah.

HAHAHA!! I find it so funny that he is so knowledge.

Maybe he should consider a career in scatolology!

Jess75
02-04-2005, 12:55 AM
man o man aren't we having a blast.??..and, yup Jess.. you got it..(no smell)..isn't that a healthy poop..winnie the poop..lol

LMao..:)
Winnie the poop, hahahah. :D :D LMOreally off. I was wondering where veggie girl was tonight, I'm glad you ain't mad at me Veggie. :)

veggie girl
02-04-2005, 12:55 AM
oh yeah and, when i eat beets i have red poop..lol

This SO weird. I've never heard of food causing the poop to change color. Is that is a common thing?

Jess75
02-04-2005, 12:57 AM
This SO weird. I've never heard of food causing the poop to change color. Is that is a common thing?
Wait, he ain't serious is he, are you Losec?

veggie girl
02-04-2005, 12:59 AM
Wait, he ain't serious is he, are you Losec?

I think he is!! :eek:

Losec20mg
02-04-2005, 01:01 AM
lol you guys are killing me..im getting rib pains..lol

it doesn't happen all the time but somtimes it does change color..lol but, remember>>> me no smell :)..haha..im all detoxed..lol

LMarseoff

veggie girl
02-04-2005, 01:03 AM
lol you guys are killing me..im getting rib pains..lol

it doesn't happen all the time but somtimes it does change color..lol but, remember>>> me no smell :)..haha..im all detoxed..lol

LMarseoff

Red and green poop AND no smell??!!...that is HILARIOUS!!

Losec20mg
02-04-2005, 01:09 AM
well i did always make people laugh..:)
oh and, veggie, you'r eating pretty healthy, your poop shouldn't smell much..lol winnie the poop..lmao

see ya :)

veggie girl
02-04-2005, 01:10 AM
Jess, it must all be true. I just read that certain food coloring combines with bile and produces a bright green color!!

Losec20mg
02-04-2005, 01:13 AM
what daaa.! you had to search the net.?..lol you'r such a veggie..didn't you believe me?..LMAO..

we've gone off topic big time :)

veggie girl
02-04-2005, 01:26 AM
what daaa.! you had to search the net.?..lol you'r such a veggie..didn't you believe me?..LMAO..

we've gone off topic big time :)

No, I totally believe you!! Iwas just curious as to why it happens.

Jess75
02-04-2005, 11:08 AM
Jess, it must all be true. I just read that certain food coloring combines with bile and produces a bright green color!!
Yikes, :eek: hahaha.

Angelene
02-04-2005, 08:56 PM
Wow -- talk about going offtopic, guys! I'm going to end your poop conversation right here!

Some really good tasting *meat substitutions* (please, don't call them "fake meat" b/c they're very real foods!) are out there.

I didn't give up meat b/c I didn't like the taste, I gave it up for ethical reasons. Thus saying that you aren't a vegetarian b/c you like the taste of meat is pretty much an invalid argument to me. Others might disagree, but that's just how I feel. If you're really against eating imitation things, then I wonder if you ever use non-dairy creamer -- YIKES! Fake milk?? God forbid. See, I bet you use imitation things all the time. I agree with the poster who said they're not more gross than eating a corpse of a mistreated animal.

I love:

Boca Breakfast Links
Boca Chik'n Patties
Gardenburger Riblets
Tofu Pups (Yummy with Bush's Baked Beans! Vegetarian, of course)
Tofurkey Hickory Smoked sandwich slices
Tofutti Cheese
Anything made of gluten! Especially my fiance's beef stew! Mmmmm

There are so much more. But really, people, be a little more openminded. It's okay if you don't like the taste of tofu -- i'm not a fan myself -- but I think it's a little off key to keep saying it's too gross, so you eat meat. That's not a logical conclusion. If you really wanted to, then you'd find a way around eating meat without eating tofu. If you don't want to, then try not to be so offensive to those who do want abstain from animal products.

Truth is it isn't about tastes. B/c veggie food tastes good. It's about finding it within yourself to realize that the way animals are exploited and treated in today's society is morally wrong, and since we're intelligent enough as humans to realize that, we should feel responsible to do something about it. Not entitled to do it for that reason. :nono:

upshutter17
02-05-2005, 04:01 AM
Oh my gosh you guys are hilarious. Just one more thing about poop...mine is green. ONLY because I am herbal and use herbs in everything...I also have a morning nutritional drink that mostly does it. ....actually it's a good thing because that means my blood has assimilated the herbs...and how easy it did!!! I have to admit, like Losec20mg, I observe my poop too. lol, I know it sounds gross but sometimes the gross or smallest detail will give you a lead when it comes to your body and health.

Angelene, Boca is awesome! Morningstar is also some awesome delicious food! Ever try Temph?? Tofurkey is another awesome one!!! Silk is Soy makes AWESOME vanilla soymilk...seriously you wouldn't even know the difference! My personal cheese substitute is Veggie Cheese. Oh man you guys made me hungry. :jester: Well, you guys have a healthy day!
Upshutter

veggie girl
02-06-2005, 08:24 PM
Oh my gosh you guys are hilarious. Just one more thing about poop...mine is green. ONLY because I am herbal and use herbs in everything...I also have a morning nutritional drink that mostly does it. ....actually it's a good thing because that means my blood has assimilated the herbs...and how easy it did!!! I have to admit, like Losec20mg, I observe my poop too. lol, I know it sounds gross but sometimes the gross or smallest detail will give you a lead when it comes to your body and health.


I eat lots of greens but mine has NEVER been green. It it possible I'm not assimilating the nutrients??


Angelene, Boca is awesome! Morningstar is also some awesome delicious food! Ever try Temph?? Tofurkey is another awesome one!!! Silk is Soy makes AWESOME vanilla soymilk...seriously you wouldn't even know the difference! My personal cheese substitute is Veggie Cheese. Oh man you guys made me hungry. :jester: Well, you guys have a healthy day!I agree Morningstar and Silk are AMAZING. I eat Soyco's cheddar cheese and you can hardly tell the difference between that and real dairy cheese. It is truly amaing. Oh also, you GOTTA try Tofu Pups, they're about 8 g of protein each and are absolutely delicious!!

jtu91952
02-07-2005, 12:12 AM
I also like the soy products. twice a wk i will eat a bocca burger, they are so good.

romeoii
02-07-2005, 12:16 AM
Getting back to Sammy's" subject. I have been eating meat substitutes for 10 yeaqrs and I agree they were pitiful at first. But! they have gotten a lot better. I can't speak on the chicken like stuff you mentioned. Have you tried "Morningstar products? They are getting real good. I usualy have the sausage Patties or meat strips with breakfat. Most of the egg substitues are really good with them (I use "Egg Beaters") Boca Burger makes for a decent Cheeseburger. Boca Burger or Morningstar Crumblers make for a great meat sause or taco filler.
Looks can be deceiving when seen on TV. It is difficult to make what was mainly soy meal look like a wing or drumstick!
I used to say "I would never give up beef if my life depended upon it...Weeell it did and I did!
Art

upshutter17
02-07-2005, 02:13 AM
Dang Veggiegirl you're making me hungry! My poop is green because of the herbs I take...hahahaha, I've been on a 30 diet (just finishing up), and it's like whatever I take, I feel the effects right away. Hahahhaaa, sorry about the poop thing again guys.

MMmmmmmmmmmm....Boca, mmmmmmmm. I went to a restaurant on Friday (it's tough eating out and being vegan at the same time), and this mongolian place had tofu! I was overjoyed (all veggies, and they cook it in front of you)...oh man, to those who won't try or don't like tofu...have it prepared right. I think I was in vegan heaven. :) :bouncing: mmmmm, ok now I made myself hungry, hahhaha! Have a healthy day guys!
Upshutter





Site owned and operated by HealthBoards.com (TM)
Copyright and Terms of Use © 1998-2009 HealthBoards.com (TM) All rights reserved.
Do not copy or redistribute in any form!