Reze
10-11-2003, 03:18 PM
I see the number changing for our other string, but cannot read/see any of the new posts?
Is everybody still here? Everybody ok? Did y'all run off to Zanzibar without me????
Reze
Is everybody still here? Everybody ok? Did y'all run off to Zanzibar without me????
Reze
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PaNik5717
10-11-2003, 04:53 PM
We're still here. I wonder why the posts aren't showing for you. Do you have some settings that need to be changed? Have you tried refreshing?
How are you? I had my surgery this week and it went well, but the bleeding has not stopped! Ugh. I hope they don't delete this again.
I really think we can start a new thread so that everyone can be included again. We have missed you. Willow sent a roll of quarters for your ransom...
How are you? I had my surgery this week and it went well, but the bleeding has not stopped! Ugh. I hope they don't delete this again.
I really think we can start a new thread so that everyone can be included again. We have missed you. Willow sent a roll of quarters for your ransom...
Reze
10-12-2003, 03:49 PM
Panik:
So good to hear from you! I dunno what happened. I would post a reply and it would either disappear altogether or take 48 hours to show up and then I could'nt see any of the new posts. It may have something to do with AOL 9.0....it's the only thing I have changed recently???
Do you think the bleeding you are now experiencing may be from the surgery itself? If not, what have they suggested you do next?
Willow: I wish I could see the post about the roll of quarters Panik says you sent for my release! LOL I bet it was funny. How are you?
How is EVERYONE???
Reze
So good to hear from you! I dunno what happened. I would post a reply and it would either disappear altogether or take 48 hours to show up and then I could'nt see any of the new posts. It may have something to do with AOL 9.0....it's the only thing I have changed recently???
Do you think the bleeding you are now experiencing may be from the surgery itself? If not, what have they suggested you do next?
Willow: I wish I could see the post about the roll of quarters Panik says you sent for my release! LOL I bet it was funny. How are you?
How is EVERYONE???
Reze
PaNik5717
10-12-2003, 09:43 PM
Hi Reze,
You know, I don't know anything about AOL. But, in Explorer and Netscape, there is a refresh button and you can go in and delete the contents of your history. My dad had some trouble in the past where a forum he visited would load from memory, like the last time he went, instead of loading fresh every time. We would do one of those things several times and the newer posts would show. Maybe you can post under posting problems and see if anyone there has any advice.
I don't know where my bleeding is from. I had a colpo, too, so that could be a little of it. I was bleeding a little when I woke up and it literally dried up that night. The next morning, I only had little flecks of blood when I went to the bathroom. Do they put in a catheter when they put you out? I couldn't tell if it was from that or from the other hole. LOL. Anyway, about 4:00 the day after surgery, the flood gates opened yet again and it has ebbed and flowed since then, non-stop. That's kinda why I think it is the normal pattern instead of from the surgery, since it stopped and started again the day after. Plus, I had a little discomfort until about 48 hours after the surgery and then it was gone, but the bleeding stayed. I didn't really hurt unless I sat. Otherwise, I had that feeling, like after an exam with a big speculum or after an ECC, where it feels like the folds in the vagina and cervix just need to find their way back to their normal place. Has anyone else ever felt that way? I also felt a little like I had some scrapes inside - because I did - but all of that discomfort was gone Friday.
The doctor told me not to expect much bleeding after the surgery and to call if it freaked me out. But, I am on one pill instead of three now and I wonder if my body needs time to adjust. I asked the nurse on Friday and she said to call if it was more than a pad an hour. It has been about a pad every two hours. The only thing they will do right now is give me more hormones and the doc is kinda trying to get away from that. If it gets heavier or if I start to feel too weak, I will call, but I am trying to wait until the follow-up on the 22nd. (That's when it is, Willow.) I don't know what the next step is if the biopsies don't show anything and the bleeding doesn't stop this week. And, I don't know how much blood I lost during the surgery, so I don't really know how much I can afford to lose over the next ten days.
As you can see, nothing has really changed in your absence, but we have missed you.
As for the recently single guy, Willow, I have been quarantined in a pool of my own blood since that one night. He probably found another rebound by now. :-(
How are you, Reze? What have we missed?
You know, I don't know anything about AOL. But, in Explorer and Netscape, there is a refresh button and you can go in and delete the contents of your history. My dad had some trouble in the past where a forum he visited would load from memory, like the last time he went, instead of loading fresh every time. We would do one of those things several times and the newer posts would show. Maybe you can post under posting problems and see if anyone there has any advice.
I don't know where my bleeding is from. I had a colpo, too, so that could be a little of it. I was bleeding a little when I woke up and it literally dried up that night. The next morning, I only had little flecks of blood when I went to the bathroom. Do they put in a catheter when they put you out? I couldn't tell if it was from that or from the other hole. LOL. Anyway, about 4:00 the day after surgery, the flood gates opened yet again and it has ebbed and flowed since then, non-stop. That's kinda why I think it is the normal pattern instead of from the surgery, since it stopped and started again the day after. Plus, I had a little discomfort until about 48 hours after the surgery and then it was gone, but the bleeding stayed. I didn't really hurt unless I sat. Otherwise, I had that feeling, like after an exam with a big speculum or after an ECC, where it feels like the folds in the vagina and cervix just need to find their way back to their normal place. Has anyone else ever felt that way? I also felt a little like I had some scrapes inside - because I did - but all of that discomfort was gone Friday.
The doctor told me not to expect much bleeding after the surgery and to call if it freaked me out. But, I am on one pill instead of three now and I wonder if my body needs time to adjust. I asked the nurse on Friday and she said to call if it was more than a pad an hour. It has been about a pad every two hours. The only thing they will do right now is give me more hormones and the doc is kinda trying to get away from that. If it gets heavier or if I start to feel too weak, I will call, but I am trying to wait until the follow-up on the 22nd. (That's when it is, Willow.) I don't know what the next step is if the biopsies don't show anything and the bleeding doesn't stop this week. And, I don't know how much blood I lost during the surgery, so I don't really know how much I can afford to lose over the next ten days.
As you can see, nothing has really changed in your absence, but we have missed you.
As for the recently single guy, Willow, I have been quarantined in a pool of my own blood since that one night. He probably found another rebound by now. :-(
How are you, Reze? What have we missed?
Carrie830
10-12-2003, 10:44 PM
Hi i was wondering what surgery you had...?
PaNik5717
10-12-2003, 10:52 PM
I had a D&C and hysteroscopy - to stop the bleeding - and she did the colpo and biopsies while she had me out.
Carrie, how are you?
Carrie, how are you?
Lucky87531
10-12-2003, 11:43 PM
Hello Ladies! I have posted on Health Boards before, and all of you have replied, so I decided I should just start writing in these string of posts. Anyway, a little update on me. My surgery is on the 17th (6 days). Yeah im a little scared, but I just want it over with! Oh, it is a cold cone biopsy. I hav eto have a spinal tap, yeah thats a little scary that I could wake up paralyzed, or not wake up at all. Ok Annie, think positiive. Anyway, I am glad that your surgery went well Panik, and I hope that the bleeding subsides and that all works out for you! I am behind on reading posts, but I am sick today so I will read them tomorrow. I hope all of you are doing well and I am praying for everyone!
Annie
Annie
RMcRae
10-13-2003, 11:41 AM
Reze!!!!
You're back!!!!! Yeah!!!!
How have you been! We were all worred about you! And we missed 'ya!
How goes the laundry situation? Are they still threatening you?
Well ladies......I started my Welbutrin yesterday. It is to help me quit smoking. I have set a quit date for the 26th, but I've been told I probably will quit before that. I guess they will start to taste horrible!!!
Willow: Have you started your prescription yet? If so, are you experienceing any abdominal pain? I have a little today, and thought maybe that was a side effect.
Panik: Hang in there girlie!!!! I'm still thinking of you and sending good karma your way!!!
Beckie
You're back!!!!! Yeah!!!!
How have you been! We were all worred about you! And we missed 'ya!
How goes the laundry situation? Are they still threatening you?
Well ladies......I started my Welbutrin yesterday. It is to help me quit smoking. I have set a quit date for the 26th, but I've been told I probably will quit before that. I guess they will start to taste horrible!!!
Willow: Have you started your prescription yet? If so, are you experienceing any abdominal pain? I have a little today, and thought maybe that was a side effect.
Panik: Hang in there girlie!!!! I'm still thinking of you and sending good karma your way!!!
Beckie
KulNatV
10-13-2003, 11:56 AM
I started my Wellbutrin Saturday. I've actually quit on it before so I can tell you what to expect. They don't taste bad. It's that you just don't get any enjoyment from them. After about a week, you are smoking them out of habit instead of because you feel the need to smoke one. I used the gum, too, when I quit before. I was off it in a month and kept on the Wellbutrin for a couple more months. My problem is staying quit after getting off the pills.
I have the abdominal pain, too. And the insomnia. It stops after a week or so as I remember. They have some GOOD side effects, too. It is really easy to lose weight on them. I lost 10 pounds before while quitting. I've kept it off, too. And they increase your sex drive. Some doctors have started to prescribe it for that!
I have the abdominal pain, too. And the insomnia. It stops after a week or so as I remember. They have some GOOD side effects, too. It is really easy to lose weight on them. I lost 10 pounds before while quitting. I've kept it off, too. And they increase your sex drive. Some doctors have started to prescribe it for that!
Reze
10-13-2003, 03:53 PM
This confounded board!!! I see the first page says that this string has had 8 replies, but I can only see the first three! Arggggggh!
Reze
Reze
RMcRae
10-14-2003, 11:10 AM
Willow or KulNatV:
Have either of you experienced VERY VERY vivid dreams on the Welbutrin?
I'm talking about waking up and for a couple of minutes you're confused about where you are because you thought you were wherever you were in your dream?
Just thought I'd ask.
Beckie
Have either of you experienced VERY VERY vivid dreams on the Welbutrin?
I'm talking about waking up and for a couple of minutes you're confused about where you are because you thought you were wherever you were in your dream?
Just thought I'd ask.
Beckie
PaNik5717
10-15-2003, 10:56 AM
I am so bummed that Reze can't see what we are writing. Nothing more to say except that I hope she can figure it out soon.
I am one week post-op and still bleeding through about one pad every two hours with things slowing a little at times. I am going to call the doc today and let her know. She didn't expect any bleeding and I know she won't be prepared at my follow-up. So, I would rather warn her and give her a week to think of a plan C. It's usually better that way than for her to think of it on the spot during our quick visit.
How is everyone else? I was on Wellbutrin for about a week back in college. It made me terribly sick. I couldn't even sleep. Becky, I am so glad you found a way to get it and I hope it works.
Nik
I am one week post-op and still bleeding through about one pad every two hours with things slowing a little at times. I am going to call the doc today and let her know. She didn't expect any bleeding and I know she won't be prepared at my follow-up. So, I would rather warn her and give her a week to think of a plan C. It's usually better that way than for her to think of it on the spot during our quick visit.
How is everyone else? I was on Wellbutrin for about a week back in college. It made me terribly sick. I couldn't even sleep. Becky, I am so glad you found a way to get it and I hope it works.
Nik
Willow Star
10-15-2003, 09:22 PM
Hi Everyone!!
Yes, contrary to popular belief I am still alive and kicking. Went yesterday for my three month post laser pap/colpo and doc said everything looked great! YEAH! What a relief. He does want me to go back in two weeks for a trans vaginal ultra sound though because I have been spotting a lot with heavy bleeding and lots of pain during my period which I never had before so we'll see what happens there. He suspects it may be a fibroid. He said if anything shows up on the US then he'll call. Otherwise, if it all looks good, we can discuss it at the next appointment. Have any of you had this done?
Hey Beckie...I find that I keep waking up through the night quite a bit and lots of dreams too. It's getting better now though. The worst things for me is a headache and some stomach pain / nausea, both of which are normal side effects. Apparently one side effect is constipation and while I don't have that problem, it's definitely upsetting my insides a bit. Not too bad though and if this is what I have to put up with to quit then I will do it. I find the cigarettes don't taste as good anymore and once I get about a third of the way through I start thinking "just hurry up and finish the damn thing!" which I think is a good mindset. I find that I am not thinking about them as often as long as I keep myself busy. The real test comes on Saturday. That will be my first day of quitting. I hope I can do this! I agree with KulNatV. I think I am now smoking out of habit, especially when I'm stressed cause that's how I always dealt with stress...have a smoke. I'm not really enjoying it and finding it to be a bit of a pain is the *** to have to stop what I'm doing cause I HAVE to have a smoke. Easy to say now but wait till Saturday..YIKES!
Panik...I can't believe you are still having to go through all this! I sure hope that doc can come up with something to help you.
Reze...my poor little turtle dove can't see....I hope you get that darn computer straightened out...we need you on here!!
Okay, gotta run...so darn busy...I'm up to my eyebrows in alligators and it doesn't look like it's gonna slow done for a while...HELP!
Willow :D
Yes, contrary to popular belief I am still alive and kicking. Went yesterday for my three month post laser pap/colpo and doc said everything looked great! YEAH! What a relief. He does want me to go back in two weeks for a trans vaginal ultra sound though because I have been spotting a lot with heavy bleeding and lots of pain during my period which I never had before so we'll see what happens there. He suspects it may be a fibroid. He said if anything shows up on the US then he'll call. Otherwise, if it all looks good, we can discuss it at the next appointment. Have any of you had this done?
Hey Beckie...I find that I keep waking up through the night quite a bit and lots of dreams too. It's getting better now though. The worst things for me is a headache and some stomach pain / nausea, both of which are normal side effects. Apparently one side effect is constipation and while I don't have that problem, it's definitely upsetting my insides a bit. Not too bad though and if this is what I have to put up with to quit then I will do it. I find the cigarettes don't taste as good anymore and once I get about a third of the way through I start thinking "just hurry up and finish the damn thing!" which I think is a good mindset. I find that I am not thinking about them as often as long as I keep myself busy. The real test comes on Saturday. That will be my first day of quitting. I hope I can do this! I agree with KulNatV. I think I am now smoking out of habit, especially when I'm stressed cause that's how I always dealt with stress...have a smoke. I'm not really enjoying it and finding it to be a bit of a pain is the *** to have to stop what I'm doing cause I HAVE to have a smoke. Easy to say now but wait till Saturday..YIKES!
Panik...I can't believe you are still having to go through all this! I sure hope that doc can come up with something to help you.
Reze...my poor little turtle dove can't see....I hope you get that darn computer straightened out...we need you on here!!
Okay, gotta run...so darn busy...I'm up to my eyebrows in alligators and it doesn't look like it's gonna slow done for a while...HELP!
Willow :D
PaNik5717
10-15-2003, 10:12 PM
Willow!!! I am so glad you are back and glad things looked so good. Did you get to have a colpo without biopsies? I've never actually heard of that happening. I have had the US done. I had one back in September with the new doc and back in April with the old doc. The first one just went straight to the transvaginal one as I bled all over his table and dripped onto his floor. He did it himself. The second one had me drink a whole bunch of water before so they could do a regular pelvic one and it was doen in an ultrasound department. Then, they couldn't see everything and had me empty my bladder so they could do the transvaginal one. It kept filling up again, though, and they never saw my right ovary. I had one done way back when I was 19 and the right ovary had a ruptured cyst, so I know I have one. It can be uncomfortable at times. It is this long probe and it looks and feels like they are going to try to look at your heart via your vagina! I kept reassuring the tech guy that I do have tonsils and they feel just fine.
Good luck with it and with Saturday. I went on a trip to Europe where one of the women on the tour was quitting. She kept puffing on an unlit smoke just to go through the motions. It was pretty amusing.
The nurse returned my call and told me that the doc wants to hear from me by Friday if things haven't stopped or slowed significantly. Things did slow earlier today and now there is a real flood going on. I finally gave in and put on a diaper. It is so humiliating that I usually save them for the nights, but I just couldn't take it anymore. Anyway, the nurse asked if things had slowed and I told her they had stopped the day after the surgery and started again that afternoon. She said "Oh, so it sounds like your period." Well, yeah, lady, except that I had my uterus evacuated the day before and I am on active birth control pills. That nurse is a little looney.
Alligators? Are they attracted to blood like sharks and bears? I am so sorry if I brought them here. I am doign my best to stop it. Will quarters help? Downy sheets? Oooh, marshmallows. I went on a swamp tour and they gave the critters marshmallows. I'll send some right away.
Nik
Good luck with it and with Saturday. I went on a trip to Europe where one of the women on the tour was quitting. She kept puffing on an unlit smoke just to go through the motions. It was pretty amusing.
The nurse returned my call and told me that the doc wants to hear from me by Friday if things haven't stopped or slowed significantly. Things did slow earlier today and now there is a real flood going on. I finally gave in and put on a diaper. It is so humiliating that I usually save them for the nights, but I just couldn't take it anymore. Anyway, the nurse asked if things had slowed and I told her they had stopped the day after the surgery and started again that afternoon. She said "Oh, so it sounds like your period." Well, yeah, lady, except that I had my uterus evacuated the day before and I am on active birth control pills. That nurse is a little looney.
Alligators? Are they attracted to blood like sharks and bears? I am so sorry if I brought them here. I am doign my best to stop it. Will quarters help? Downy sheets? Oooh, marshmallows. I went on a swamp tour and they gave the critters marshmallows. I'll send some right away.
Nik
Reze
10-17-2003, 01:32 AM
My computer has a virus Y'all! That's probably what was making it hard for me to see on here, eh?
So good to see everyone again! I think Panik should START smoking! You heard me right....smoking coagulates the blood ya know?! Ok, even so...you probably shouldn't start smoking...it is too hard to kick later. I am stuck at 3 a day. Was down to 2, then went up to 5, and now am hovering at 3. DRAT! I really must go get those darn patches. Years ago I bought a box, but changed my mind and took them back for a refund so I could buy a bottle of Scotch for a party instead! Priorities ya know! LOL Well, I couldn't show up empty handed, c'mon! Hee hee.
Panik: girrrrrrl! I am mystified yet again??? I go in on the 30th for my surgery consult..I am gonna ask my doctor what she would do if a patient came to her with constant bleeding that bc pills and a D&C didn't slow! I'll be sure to let you know what she says!
Willow: I had my second post LEEP period and CRICKEY it was painful! It was also very late! I took the darvocet they gave me from last time and it did help, but some pain remained. I am not digging this at all...the pain is intense enough to give me some anxiety...so I feel ya girl. I know that I have fibroids, I have done the saline injected sonogram thing, no fun--but bearable, and I know that fibroids cause extra bleeding and cramps. In my case, I think the additional discomfort is a result of the LEEP and I hope it relents soon. I plan to mention it to my doctor on the 30th. In your case, if the fibroids are "new" I wouldn't doubt that they are the source of the trouble. Mine were tolerable for years, so no need to panic if they find one or more. Many women have them and many women don't even know it, the symptoms can be very subtle to very strong, and change tends to be very slow with them if at all.
RM: I am doing really well other than the periods which I now refer to as periodzilla! OMG, that is my diagnosis for Panik..she has PERIODZILLA! What's up with you Becky, how are things going?
My Honey and I are moving into a really nice rental house at the end of this month! It is gorgeous and so so BIG! Sure beats the heck out of this little apartment I have and it will be so nice to have a yard again! Who knows, by Xmas I may be all healed from a hysterectomy, all moved in to the new house, and planning a trip to Vegas with my sweetie! Moving and recovering from surgery so close together really isn't appealing, but the surgery sure would alleviate alot, if not all, of my health problems. Many people are encouraging me to wait until after the holidays, but I am thinking...and y'all tell me what you think....that if I am really going to get the hysterectomy why put it off and have to get Colpo's, ECC's and be all nervous waiting for results in the meantime? Seriously, what do you guys think? Am I trying to do too much all at once or should I just get it out of the way?
Hello to all the new people, welcome aboard the U.S.S LEEP! *snark* We have the best people here and I am certain you will find all the support and encouragement you need when dealing with dysplasia and all the side issues that come it. This really is a good bunch and we are here for you, ready to listen..answer what we can...and even give ya laugh or two along the way!
God Bless,
Reze
So good to see everyone again! I think Panik should START smoking! You heard me right....smoking coagulates the blood ya know?! Ok, even so...you probably shouldn't start smoking...it is too hard to kick later. I am stuck at 3 a day. Was down to 2, then went up to 5, and now am hovering at 3. DRAT! I really must go get those darn patches. Years ago I bought a box, but changed my mind and took them back for a refund so I could buy a bottle of Scotch for a party instead! Priorities ya know! LOL Well, I couldn't show up empty handed, c'mon! Hee hee.
Panik: girrrrrrl! I am mystified yet again??? I go in on the 30th for my surgery consult..I am gonna ask my doctor what she would do if a patient came to her with constant bleeding that bc pills and a D&C didn't slow! I'll be sure to let you know what she says!
Willow: I had my second post LEEP period and CRICKEY it was painful! It was also very late! I took the darvocet they gave me from last time and it did help, but some pain remained. I am not digging this at all...the pain is intense enough to give me some anxiety...so I feel ya girl. I know that I have fibroids, I have done the saline injected sonogram thing, no fun--but bearable, and I know that fibroids cause extra bleeding and cramps. In my case, I think the additional discomfort is a result of the LEEP and I hope it relents soon. I plan to mention it to my doctor on the 30th. In your case, if the fibroids are "new" I wouldn't doubt that they are the source of the trouble. Mine were tolerable for years, so no need to panic if they find one or more. Many women have them and many women don't even know it, the symptoms can be very subtle to very strong, and change tends to be very slow with them if at all.
RM: I am doing really well other than the periods which I now refer to as periodzilla! OMG, that is my diagnosis for Panik..she has PERIODZILLA! What's up with you Becky, how are things going?
My Honey and I are moving into a really nice rental house at the end of this month! It is gorgeous and so so BIG! Sure beats the heck out of this little apartment I have and it will be so nice to have a yard again! Who knows, by Xmas I may be all healed from a hysterectomy, all moved in to the new house, and planning a trip to Vegas with my sweetie! Moving and recovering from surgery so close together really isn't appealing, but the surgery sure would alleviate alot, if not all, of my health problems. Many people are encouraging me to wait until after the holidays, but I am thinking...and y'all tell me what you think....that if I am really going to get the hysterectomy why put it off and have to get Colpo's, ECC's and be all nervous waiting for results in the meantime? Seriously, what do you guys think? Am I trying to do too much all at once or should I just get it out of the way?
Hello to all the new people, welcome aboard the U.S.S LEEP! *snark* We have the best people here and I am certain you will find all the support and encouragement you need when dealing with dysplasia and all the side issues that come it. This really is a good bunch and we are here for you, ready to listen..answer what we can...and even give ya laugh or two along the way!
God Bless,
Reze
PaNik5717
10-17-2003, 07:42 PM
Hi Guys:
I am copying this from one of my other posts. I hope you will understand why.
My D&C went fine, but my old bleeding pattern emerged about a day after the surgery. I waited a week and then I called the doc. She had me wait two more days so I called today. The bleeding is bothersome - especially when I bleed all over myself or someone else's couch - but the anemia is the worst. I have terrible headaches that get much worse for about twenty seconds after I stand up. I get dizzy if I am standing and talking at the same time - not enough oxygen to do both. I get up and cross the living room and I bump into the walls of the hallway. I don't know my numbers, but I know they are low.
The doc called back. She is terribly frustrated and out of ideas. She talked to her senior partner about me and he would have done all the same things. So, he recommended that I get the depo provera shot and get it more often than every twelve weeks. The last doc I had wanted me to get an IUD or depo, but I know both are contraindicated if you have dysfunctional bleeding and I know that both can have HORRIBLE side effects. I had discussed those things with this doc when I first started with her and she agreed, but now she wants to give me the shot. She seemed to want me there today, but she said to come in on Monday if I am still bleeding since I am two hours away - I already have a follow-up for Wednesday, but I guess the lab results from the D&C must show nothing at all.
I don't know what to do!!! My family is terribly worried about me and I have lost all quality of life. I would rather have a hysterectomy than the shot, but I don't know how to get one. My dad did talk to my PCP the other day and she wants me to see a hematologist. The one she told me to call can't see me until the end of November. My PCP already showed my file to a local hematologist and he told me to go back to my gyn who then gave me a script for sleeping pills. The only thing I can find that my PCP might be thinking of is leukemia. Could that possibly cause abnormal uterine bleeding? I know that abnormal bleeding is one symptom as well as anemia and many of the symptoms of anemia.
I guess I am rambling now, but I am devastated at the idea of getting the shot and devastated that no one can think of anything else to do. I guess I am just plain devastated.
If anyone has any sage advice, please let me know. I just want me back and I am afraid I will become even more lost if I get the shot.
Nik
I am copying this from one of my other posts. I hope you will understand why.
My D&C went fine, but my old bleeding pattern emerged about a day after the surgery. I waited a week and then I called the doc. She had me wait two more days so I called today. The bleeding is bothersome - especially when I bleed all over myself or someone else's couch - but the anemia is the worst. I have terrible headaches that get much worse for about twenty seconds after I stand up. I get dizzy if I am standing and talking at the same time - not enough oxygen to do both. I get up and cross the living room and I bump into the walls of the hallway. I don't know my numbers, but I know they are low.
The doc called back. She is terribly frustrated and out of ideas. She talked to her senior partner about me and he would have done all the same things. So, he recommended that I get the depo provera shot and get it more often than every twelve weeks. The last doc I had wanted me to get an IUD or depo, but I know both are contraindicated if you have dysfunctional bleeding and I know that both can have HORRIBLE side effects. I had discussed those things with this doc when I first started with her and she agreed, but now she wants to give me the shot. She seemed to want me there today, but she said to come in on Monday if I am still bleeding since I am two hours away - I already have a follow-up for Wednesday, but I guess the lab results from the D&C must show nothing at all.
I don't know what to do!!! My family is terribly worried about me and I have lost all quality of life. I would rather have a hysterectomy than the shot, but I don't know how to get one. My dad did talk to my PCP the other day and she wants me to see a hematologist. The one she told me to call can't see me until the end of November. My PCP already showed my file to a local hematologist and he told me to go back to my gyn who then gave me a script for sleeping pills. The only thing I can find that my PCP might be thinking of is leukemia. Could that possibly cause abnormal uterine bleeding? I know that abnormal bleeding is one symptom as well as anemia and many of the symptoms of anemia.
I guess I am rambling now, but I am devastated at the idea of getting the shot and devastated that no one can think of anything else to do. I guess I am just plain devastated.
If anyone has any sage advice, please let me know. I just want me back and I am afraid I will become even more lost if I get the shot.
Nik
Willow Star
10-20-2003, 08:35 PM
Hi Everybody!
Just thought I would drag (and I do mean drag) my patootie on here and see how you all are doing. How are you feeling Panik? Is Niagara Falls slowing down at all? I would keep callign the specialist every day to see if there are any cancellations. Something has to be done for you. So you are supposed to get the Depo shot this Wednesday...are you going to do it? Geez Nik I wish I knew more about these things so I could help you.
Reze, I am so glad you're back!!! USS LEEP...HA! Love it! Are you getting things all packed up? The new place sounds wonderful. I would love to have a back yard!!! I can see you now, relaxing in that chaise lounge with your oversized sunglasses and huge chapeau sipping an exotic cocktail (with an umbrella of course) while the cabana boy worships at your feet. Hmmmm, hell, I'm coming to your place!!! Move over Reze! Glad to see your computer is feeling better. I swear to God that I would kill somebody if my computer went down....and you thought I was addicted only to cigarettes..HA!
RMcRae...how goes the battle? I quit smoking Staurday so I'm now at Day 3 and feeling totally psychotic! I swear to God I have split into fourteen separate personalities in the last hour alone! Okay, maybe I'm exaggerating a teensy bit. I've only killed one person today compared to 5 my first day. Went from a pack a day down to nothing. Yikes! Having some withdrawal symptoms but if that's what it takes to stop then I'll do it. If I manage to do this I swear to God I will never smoke again! I do not want to go through this a second time! It won't kill me but it's definitely not fun. I hope since you managed to cut back (at least I think you did...didn't you?) that things go well for you. Please let me know how you're doing.
Anyway, not feeling quite myself but just wanted to pop on and say I've been thinking about you guys and hope you're all well. Hopefully all these withdrawal symptoms will ease off and I'll pop back on when I feel better and can be at least somewhat coherent!
Willow :D
Just thought I would drag (and I do mean drag) my patootie on here and see how you all are doing. How are you feeling Panik? Is Niagara Falls slowing down at all? I would keep callign the specialist every day to see if there are any cancellations. Something has to be done for you. So you are supposed to get the Depo shot this Wednesday...are you going to do it? Geez Nik I wish I knew more about these things so I could help you.
Reze, I am so glad you're back!!! USS LEEP...HA! Love it! Are you getting things all packed up? The new place sounds wonderful. I would love to have a back yard!!! I can see you now, relaxing in that chaise lounge with your oversized sunglasses and huge chapeau sipping an exotic cocktail (with an umbrella of course) while the cabana boy worships at your feet. Hmmmm, hell, I'm coming to your place!!! Move over Reze! Glad to see your computer is feeling better. I swear to God that I would kill somebody if my computer went down....and you thought I was addicted only to cigarettes..HA!
RMcRae...how goes the battle? I quit smoking Staurday so I'm now at Day 3 and feeling totally psychotic! I swear to God I have split into fourteen separate personalities in the last hour alone! Okay, maybe I'm exaggerating a teensy bit. I've only killed one person today compared to 5 my first day. Went from a pack a day down to nothing. Yikes! Having some withdrawal symptoms but if that's what it takes to stop then I'll do it. If I manage to do this I swear to God I will never smoke again! I do not want to go through this a second time! It won't kill me but it's definitely not fun. I hope since you managed to cut back (at least I think you did...didn't you?) that things go well for you. Please let me know how you're doing.
Anyway, not feeling quite myself but just wanted to pop on and say I've been thinking about you guys and hope you're all well. Hopefully all these withdrawal symptoms will ease off and I'll pop back on when I feel better and can be at least somewhat coherent!
Willow :D
RMcRae
10-21-2003, 11:36 AM
Hi all!
Nik: I don't know anything about the shot. I work with a girl who gets it, and LOVES it. She said it's awesome, but I'm on the pill so I don't know firsthand. Have you decided wether or not you're going to do it? I'm thinking of you! ((((((HUGE Hug))))))
Reze: Periodzilla.......you are TOO funny! Congrats on the new place! How exciting! And if it's ANYTHING like Willow described, I'm coming too! ;-)
Willow: Sorry to hear your having a hard time. I've cut down, but still haven't quit. My quit date is Sunday, and I'm really nervous. I don't want to become a ***** from hell. I was thinking about going and getting hypmotised (spelling?) on Friday, and seeing if that, combined with the Welbutrin would keep me under control. I'm like you in the fact that if I manage to do this, I'm never smoking again!!!! This is horrible. I don't know if it's the Welbutrin, or withdrawls because I cut down, but I feel like crap all the time, and I haven't slept good for over a week. That alone is making me crazt. I swear smoke is pouring out of my ears, fire shooting from my mouth, and a permanent scowl has taken over my face. I don't even need a costume for Halloween! But hey, on the bright side, if you're still having problems with the laundry, or the dishes, just call on me......."B****zilla"!
Nik: I don't know anything about the shot. I work with a girl who gets it, and LOVES it. She said it's awesome, but I'm on the pill so I don't know firsthand. Have you decided wether or not you're going to do it? I'm thinking of you! ((((((HUGE Hug))))))
Reze: Periodzilla.......you are TOO funny! Congrats on the new place! How exciting! And if it's ANYTHING like Willow described, I'm coming too! ;-)
Willow: Sorry to hear your having a hard time. I've cut down, but still haven't quit. My quit date is Sunday, and I'm really nervous. I don't want to become a ***** from hell. I was thinking about going and getting hypmotised (spelling?) on Friday, and seeing if that, combined with the Welbutrin would keep me under control. I'm like you in the fact that if I manage to do this, I'm never smoking again!!!! This is horrible. I don't know if it's the Welbutrin, or withdrawls because I cut down, but I feel like crap all the time, and I haven't slept good for over a week. That alone is making me crazt. I swear smoke is pouring out of my ears, fire shooting from my mouth, and a permanent scowl has taken over my face. I don't even need a costume for Halloween! But hey, on the bright side, if you're still having problems with the laundry, or the dishes, just call on me......."B****zilla"!
bumble bee lovr
10-21-2003, 06:37 PM
Hey girls, i'm kinda new here and i am in need of some advice (and cheering up). I just found out after 2 abnormal paps, a colo., a bio. and an HPV test that I have a high grade HPV. The colo and bio are not back yet-but I am terrified. I just got married about 5 months ago and we wanted to start a family next year and i'm so scare that none of that will happen now :( My doctor found lesions on the cervix, did the bio, and then decided to do an endo cervix check??? or something..does anyone know why they do this-it scared me the most because they said something about cancer inside my cervix. All i want is to be able to have children some day...someone please tell me this is still possible? I guess i'm just terrified and dont know who to turn to. Can anyone please tell me what the worst and best case scenario's are? LEEP, Cone, wait for another 6 months, will this keep coming back?, can I have children? Please i'm sorry for the rambling and the tons of questions but I'm so scared. Is there anything that I can do? Thank you so much-this healthboard is wonderful and I wish the best of luck to all of you sweet ladies. If you have anything to respond or add I would so appreciate it.
Thanks
bee lovr
Thanks
bee lovr
PaNik5717
10-21-2003, 07:48 PM
Hi Bumble Bee Lovr!
It is so sad to have new members, but it is nice to have you here. It is a good thing to keep track of the questions that you ask here and ask your doc the same things.
Your prognosis at the point where you are is so very good. A lot of women get abnormal paps and end up not needing any further treatment and a huge number of women have HPV. The best thing you can do is take care of yourself (which you should do since you want to get pregnant soon). Your own immune system is your best defense right now. If your biopsies come back bad and you have to have surgery, it is fairly simple and seems like it usually works. You may not be able to get pregnant exactly when you had wanted, but you will most likely be able to at some point. If you do have surgery, you want to make sure that you have one or two follow-up paps that are normal. You don't want to be pregnant with dysplasia and you want your cervix to heal totally before you use it to hold in a baby.
The ECC that they did on you is done just to see if there are abnormal cells inside the hole of your cervix or if they are just on the outside. If they are in the canal, they will just treat you a little more aggressively, but it does not mean that the dysplasia can not be treated or that you can not get pregnant.
Wow, has any of this answered your questions? Has any of it made sense? Keep asking and feel free to vent. We're all here.
Nik
It is so sad to have new members, but it is nice to have you here. It is a good thing to keep track of the questions that you ask here and ask your doc the same things.
Your prognosis at the point where you are is so very good. A lot of women get abnormal paps and end up not needing any further treatment and a huge number of women have HPV. The best thing you can do is take care of yourself (which you should do since you want to get pregnant soon). Your own immune system is your best defense right now. If your biopsies come back bad and you have to have surgery, it is fairly simple and seems like it usually works. You may not be able to get pregnant exactly when you had wanted, but you will most likely be able to at some point. If you do have surgery, you want to make sure that you have one or two follow-up paps that are normal. You don't want to be pregnant with dysplasia and you want your cervix to heal totally before you use it to hold in a baby.
The ECC that they did on you is done just to see if there are abnormal cells inside the hole of your cervix or if they are just on the outside. If they are in the canal, they will just treat you a little more aggressively, but it does not mean that the dysplasia can not be treated or that you can not get pregnant.
Wow, has any of this answered your questions? Has any of it made sense? Keep asking and feel free to vent. We're all here.
Nik
bumble bee lovr
10-21-2003, 08:11 PM
Thank you for answering everything-I def. apprecaite it. I kept trying to build myself up for the results but even so I can't stop crying. I know this is treatable and it could be lots worse but I'm just sad :( It's like when everything is going perfect and you just know that something is going to come along, a bump in the road, and here it is :( New husband, new house, new job, new life and then wham! you get stuck with this. You dont know where it came from, when, why and you dont know where it's going to take you. It's all a little overwhelming. My husband doesn't know the results yet and I hate to tell him-he knows how bad I wanted to start a family soon. Anyways, had to get that off my chest. I really truly appreciate your response and I know there are lots of women that are in better off shape than me, so I'll continue to pray for all of us and keep checking these message boards for courage. Thanks again
bee lovr
bee lovr
Reze
10-23-2003, 02:21 AM
Greetings One and All!
Thank you so much for all the congrats and every single one of you may come to the new house....cabana boys for everyone!!!!! LOL
I am so relieved to hear that you all are experiencing some of the same symptoms I am with the smoking ordeal...I thought I was losing my mind. I don't think I have ever been so tired and so hungry before in my life! I have been having a touch of anxiety as well. This SUCKS and once I put 'em down I'll NEVER pick them up again! ACK!
Panik: You sweet sweet thing, I am at a loss Honey. Just hang tight until I talk to my Doc on the 30th...maybe she will shed some light on things for us. I did read that uncontrollable bleeding is one of the leading reasons for hysterectomy, so you may get your wish here pretty soon. Tell your doctor that if he doesn't give you one, you are going to find somebody who will! It's your body after all! Big huggs to you Panik.
Bee Lover: Based on everything I have read, you WILL be able to have children. Sounds like you're headed for a LEEP which is a wonderful procedure that cures this problem 95% of the time. The LEEP is moderately uncomfortable in my opinion and it does take 3 weeks for your cervix to heal, but after two good PAPs your doc will most likely give you the thumbs up on getting pregnant. "Your mantra is: cervical cancer is very rare these days and even when it does occur it is highly curable. Dysplasia is NOT cancer!" No worries sweetie, sounds like you and your doctor are well on top of things. The real trouble comes for those who do not go to the doctor for 5 and 10 years at a time; cervical cancer is slow going and requires lots of time unchecked to progress to stage 2-4, which is where the real trouble is. CIN1-4 and even stage 1 of cervical cancer are treated with an incredibly high success rate. NO ONE has ever died from dysplasia! So you see, you need not panic, but do take it seriously and follow up.
Ring ding buzz, that concludes todays physiology lesson by Reze! Sorry for going on so long, but I remember how scared I was at first and just wanted to reassure Bee Lover that she will be okay.
Now.....I am off to the kitchen where I shall proceed to unhinge my jaw and empty the entire contents of the fridge into my mouth then swallow it all whole! *snark*
Love to all,
Reze
Thank you so much for all the congrats and every single one of you may come to the new house....cabana boys for everyone!!!!! LOL
I am so relieved to hear that you all are experiencing some of the same symptoms I am with the smoking ordeal...I thought I was losing my mind. I don't think I have ever been so tired and so hungry before in my life! I have been having a touch of anxiety as well. This SUCKS and once I put 'em down I'll NEVER pick them up again! ACK!
Panik: You sweet sweet thing, I am at a loss Honey. Just hang tight until I talk to my Doc on the 30th...maybe she will shed some light on things for us. I did read that uncontrollable bleeding is one of the leading reasons for hysterectomy, so you may get your wish here pretty soon. Tell your doctor that if he doesn't give you one, you are going to find somebody who will! It's your body after all! Big huggs to you Panik.
Bee Lover: Based on everything I have read, you WILL be able to have children. Sounds like you're headed for a LEEP which is a wonderful procedure that cures this problem 95% of the time. The LEEP is moderately uncomfortable in my opinion and it does take 3 weeks for your cervix to heal, but after two good PAPs your doc will most likely give you the thumbs up on getting pregnant. "Your mantra is: cervical cancer is very rare these days and even when it does occur it is highly curable. Dysplasia is NOT cancer!" No worries sweetie, sounds like you and your doctor are well on top of things. The real trouble comes for those who do not go to the doctor for 5 and 10 years at a time; cervical cancer is slow going and requires lots of time unchecked to progress to stage 2-4, which is where the real trouble is. CIN1-4 and even stage 1 of cervical cancer are treated with an incredibly high success rate. NO ONE has ever died from dysplasia! So you see, you need not panic, but do take it seriously and follow up.
Ring ding buzz, that concludes todays physiology lesson by Reze! Sorry for going on so long, but I remember how scared I was at first and just wanted to reassure Bee Lover that she will be okay.
Now.....I am off to the kitchen where I shall proceed to unhinge my jaw and empty the entire contents of the fridge into my mouth then swallow it all whole! *snark*
Love to all,
Reze
PaNik5717
10-23-2003, 04:44 PM
Hey All!
Here's my latest update: I guess I will start with the good news since it is quicker. No, let's come back to it and do it in order.
I did not go to the doc on Monday for her depo shot. I am totally against it and she was, too, when we met. My biggest concern is that the patient information says not to get it if you have irregular bleeding. My other concern is that once it is in you, it is "effective" for three months with side effects lasting up to a year. One of the side effects is - you guessed it - abnormal bleeding!
So, I waited until yesterday. We had a scheduled appt and I figured she could spend more time with me. I asked her to go back over the differential diagnosis for abnormal bleeding and help me understand why some things were ruled out. We went through a little of it and she agreed to get a blood test for bleeding disorders. We also talked about the hormone choices they have given me so far and she realized that I was never on the regular provera so she wrote out a script for that. Ah. Something new to try. I already stopped my other pills and it turns out this would be a period week anyway. So, I am to call Monday to see how the bleeding is, get the lab results and get further instructions.
I followed her out to get lab instructions and then I remembered that we hadn't talked about my cervix. She opened up the file and, good news - I think, all of the biopsies of my cervix and uterus were benign. I was hoping for a simple "normal" but benign works, too. I asked her if I should get a pap in three months and she said that she will be talking to me many more times before then. Talk about confidence.
Oh, and she would not even discuss a hysterectomy. Ugh!
So, I wandered over to the lab. It took a long time because she had ordered a test for people on heparin and they had to call to find out what she really wanted. Then, I sat in the chair and the girl had about 10 tubes to fill. While she filled them, I proceeeded to bleed all over her chair! My mom went to get me some other clothes from the car while the girl did a bleed time on me. Interesting test and I got a paper stitch out of it! Funny that we keep having surgeries down there and no stitches. Well, I got one yesterday. I am so glad they ran the tests and I don't expect anything to come of it, but I sure wish they would have done them six months ago when I still had blood to spare.
(Did anyone see that a guy swam over Niagara Falls? No offers for anyone to get his red wings in Periodzilla Falls lately - not that I would let anyone. I guess I am a bit prude.)
Ia anyone else bored with this yet? I know I am. Oh, and I really do think I have diaper rash now. I guess there is the slight chance that I have a yeast infection from the antibiotics they gave me during the surgery, but that was two weeks ago. Reze, you are so sweet to be thinking of me when you are planning your pre-op visit with your doc. Maybe I will have to come visit your new yard and get my hysterectomy in Austin! You promised a cabana boy, but he will have to be gentle with me post-op. We can recover together.
Nik
Here's my latest update: I guess I will start with the good news since it is quicker. No, let's come back to it and do it in order.
I did not go to the doc on Monday for her depo shot. I am totally against it and she was, too, when we met. My biggest concern is that the patient information says not to get it if you have irregular bleeding. My other concern is that once it is in you, it is "effective" for three months with side effects lasting up to a year. One of the side effects is - you guessed it - abnormal bleeding!
So, I waited until yesterday. We had a scheduled appt and I figured she could spend more time with me. I asked her to go back over the differential diagnosis for abnormal bleeding and help me understand why some things were ruled out. We went through a little of it and she agreed to get a blood test for bleeding disorders. We also talked about the hormone choices they have given me so far and she realized that I was never on the regular provera so she wrote out a script for that. Ah. Something new to try. I already stopped my other pills and it turns out this would be a period week anyway. So, I am to call Monday to see how the bleeding is, get the lab results and get further instructions.
I followed her out to get lab instructions and then I remembered that we hadn't talked about my cervix. She opened up the file and, good news - I think, all of the biopsies of my cervix and uterus were benign. I was hoping for a simple "normal" but benign works, too. I asked her if I should get a pap in three months and she said that she will be talking to me many more times before then. Talk about confidence.
Oh, and she would not even discuss a hysterectomy. Ugh!
So, I wandered over to the lab. It took a long time because she had ordered a test for people on heparin and they had to call to find out what she really wanted. Then, I sat in the chair and the girl had about 10 tubes to fill. While she filled them, I proceeeded to bleed all over her chair! My mom went to get me some other clothes from the car while the girl did a bleed time on me. Interesting test and I got a paper stitch out of it! Funny that we keep having surgeries down there and no stitches. Well, I got one yesterday. I am so glad they ran the tests and I don't expect anything to come of it, but I sure wish they would have done them six months ago when I still had blood to spare.
(Did anyone see that a guy swam over Niagara Falls? No offers for anyone to get his red wings in Periodzilla Falls lately - not that I would let anyone. I guess I am a bit prude.)
Ia anyone else bored with this yet? I know I am. Oh, and I really do think I have diaper rash now. I guess there is the slight chance that I have a yeast infection from the antibiotics they gave me during the surgery, but that was two weeks ago. Reze, you are so sweet to be thinking of me when you are planning your pre-op visit with your doc. Maybe I will have to come visit your new yard and get my hysterectomy in Austin! You promised a cabana boy, but he will have to be gentle with me post-op. We can recover together.
Nik
bumble bee lovr
10-24-2003, 02:39 AM
Hello everyone-I'm glad to see everyone's post...it's like a smiley face at the end of the day. :)
Reze-thank you for your wonderful advice. After the intial shock, telling my husband, and crying for a good while I feel a lot better! And then after reading your post it was much better-I feel pretty confident that I'm going to just do what needs to be done because I want children soon :) and lots of them! lol so i'm gonna be nice and healthy. My doctor mentioned not having a lot of stress-so when it was time to do the laundry yesterday I told my DH that it was much too stressful! lol :) i thought it was hilarious...but he didn't think so :)
I'm sorry to hear about the smoking-it doesn't sound like much fun. I know people that have quit and it's hard-but def. worth it! Hang in there-you can do it!
Panik-I'm sorry to hear about the bleeding-I have been bleeding for 3 days and it's driving me crazy! I could not imagine dealing with what you are-I will pray for you and hopefully they will get it taken care of soon. Just think you can't lose all of your blood or you wont be able to keep up with the cabana boy that Reze finds for you :)
This is a nosy question-but why does everyone want a hysterestomy??? sp.? Do you have children already or are you in pain? :( I'm just curious-my mom wants one so bad, I think she's praying for it to happen. I was just wondering. I'm heading to bed-Thank Goodness it's Friday! :) Hope everyone has a wonderful weekend-I will be thinking about everyone!
bee lovr
Reze-thank you for your wonderful advice. After the intial shock, telling my husband, and crying for a good while I feel a lot better! And then after reading your post it was much better-I feel pretty confident that I'm going to just do what needs to be done because I want children soon :) and lots of them! lol so i'm gonna be nice and healthy. My doctor mentioned not having a lot of stress-so when it was time to do the laundry yesterday I told my DH that it was much too stressful! lol :) i thought it was hilarious...but he didn't think so :)
I'm sorry to hear about the smoking-it doesn't sound like much fun. I know people that have quit and it's hard-but def. worth it! Hang in there-you can do it!
Panik-I'm sorry to hear about the bleeding-I have been bleeding for 3 days and it's driving me crazy! I could not imagine dealing with what you are-I will pray for you and hopefully they will get it taken care of soon. Just think you can't lose all of your blood or you wont be able to keep up with the cabana boy that Reze finds for you :)
This is a nosy question-but why does everyone want a hysterestomy??? sp.? Do you have children already or are you in pain? :( I'm just curious-my mom wants one so bad, I think she's praying for it to happen. I was just wondering. I'm heading to bed-Thank Goodness it's Friday! :) Hope everyone has a wonderful weekend-I will be thinking about everyone!
bee lovr
PaNik5717
10-24-2003, 11:08 AM
Hi Bee Lovr,
We have been talking about this hysterectomy thing for awhile. We had another thread that was several pages long. It was started by Reze. And you can see more of my history on a thread to me started by Willow.
Some of us are afraid of them, but Reze and I desperately want them. Reze has terrible pain from her endometriosis and fibroids and a hysterectomy is the only way to go. Add the scares about her cervix and she is ready.
I had the whole cervical thing going on and this bleeding thing. I am taking three iron pills a day and my body simply can't keep up with production of blood. I have become so anemic that I can't walk around the block without getting short of breath and getting a severe headache. If it doesn't stop soon, they may have to transfuse me! I feel like my baby maker has turned on me and the doctors are totally lost. They have no idea what to do.
When it gets to this point in older women, a hysterectomy is an option, but they won't consider it for me. Well, I had a friend tell me recently that all bleeding stops eventually. He learned that cute little remark from an ER doc who tells her aptients with papercuts that. I don't want it to get to that point. Then, there won't even be a me, let alone kids. I went from leading rock climbing and guiding river rafts to slowly bleeding to death.
So, that's why. I have always been a big believer in adoption and I am a big fan of my own life. I think a hysterectomy is warranted in my case, but I wouldn't recommend it for a healthy woman.
There's my little rant for the day. I am so happy you are coming to terms with your own situation and that you were able to tell your husband.
Nik
We have been talking about this hysterectomy thing for awhile. We had another thread that was several pages long. It was started by Reze. And you can see more of my history on a thread to me started by Willow.
Some of us are afraid of them, but Reze and I desperately want them. Reze has terrible pain from her endometriosis and fibroids and a hysterectomy is the only way to go. Add the scares about her cervix and she is ready.
I had the whole cervical thing going on and this bleeding thing. I am taking three iron pills a day and my body simply can't keep up with production of blood. I have become so anemic that I can't walk around the block without getting short of breath and getting a severe headache. If it doesn't stop soon, they may have to transfuse me! I feel like my baby maker has turned on me and the doctors are totally lost. They have no idea what to do.
When it gets to this point in older women, a hysterectomy is an option, but they won't consider it for me. Well, I had a friend tell me recently that all bleeding stops eventually. He learned that cute little remark from an ER doc who tells her aptients with papercuts that. I don't want it to get to that point. Then, there won't even be a me, let alone kids. I went from leading rock climbing and guiding river rafts to slowly bleeding to death.
So, that's why. I have always been a big believer in adoption and I am a big fan of my own life. I think a hysterectomy is warranted in my case, but I wouldn't recommend it for a healthy woman.
There's my little rant for the day. I am so happy you are coming to terms with your own situation and that you were able to tell your husband.
Nik
Reze
10-25-2003, 02:55 AM
You guys give me the warm fuzzies, ya know it??? You are all terrific friends and some of the strongest people I know, I am so glad I stumbled onto this board!
BeeLover: I am thrilled that anything I said helped you to feel better. I am very much into preventative medicine and will be the first one to tell somebody if you are feeling stressed get to your doctor and take any help they offer! Zoloft, paxil, xanax, progressive relaxation, etc....do what you can to keep stress at bay. I just read an article that stated many doctors believe that 90% of all illnesses are stress related! YIKES! So practice your mantra and if need be LADIES, go to your doctor for stress management.
Following my own advice, I just went to my regular MD the other day. I was sooooooo tired all of the time, I was sluggish and queasy too. I was having some anxiety and just attributed that to the smoking thing. Well, he seemed to think otherwise! He recommended Zoloft to help me deal with the stress and anxiety of my Uncle Kevin, my 19 year old son and his......hmmmm, how to put it.....shananagans, as well as my cervical issues. I am happy to say that I no longer suspect cancer, but all these pending tests and results, and then the possible hysterectomy (wanted, but still a touch scary)can be un-nerving. Y'all know EXACTLY what I mean. So, anyway...here's something that will blow your minds. I took the Zoloft for one day and it shook me loose, if ya know what I mean? Normally that may have been unpleasant, but did you know that stress can block you up? And did you know that if you get blocked up bad enough you can become fatigued and yes, even queasy??? Well, I feel like a new woman!!! I am peppy again and my tummy is all but settled! I thought I read somewhere that Zoloft helps and irritable bowel, now I know! And it treats anxiety, depression, and PMS!!!! What a great medicine! PLUS, it is safe and non habit forming. Geeeeesh, I should do a commercial. LOL
All this to say, there is great help out there and no need to suffer for the sake of being "tough." The best advice I could ever give to anyone would be to live a life of preventative care. Get those PAPs and mammograms, eat right, drink lots of water, exercise, DONT SMOKE, and manage your stress! Our immune systems will do the rest.
Panik: You are so very welcome! And, in all seriousness...if you and your Mom ever come to austin seeking medical help you have a place to recover complete with cabana boys!
WIllow, Becky, you guys.....where are you????
Love to All,
Reze
BeeLover: I am thrilled that anything I said helped you to feel better. I am very much into preventative medicine and will be the first one to tell somebody if you are feeling stressed get to your doctor and take any help they offer! Zoloft, paxil, xanax, progressive relaxation, etc....do what you can to keep stress at bay. I just read an article that stated many doctors believe that 90% of all illnesses are stress related! YIKES! So practice your mantra and if need be LADIES, go to your doctor for stress management.
Following my own advice, I just went to my regular MD the other day. I was sooooooo tired all of the time, I was sluggish and queasy too. I was having some anxiety and just attributed that to the smoking thing. Well, he seemed to think otherwise! He recommended Zoloft to help me deal with the stress and anxiety of my Uncle Kevin, my 19 year old son and his......hmmmm, how to put it.....shananagans, as well as my cervical issues. I am happy to say that I no longer suspect cancer, but all these pending tests and results, and then the possible hysterectomy (wanted, but still a touch scary)can be un-nerving. Y'all know EXACTLY what I mean. So, anyway...here's something that will blow your minds. I took the Zoloft for one day and it shook me loose, if ya know what I mean? Normally that may have been unpleasant, but did you know that stress can block you up? And did you know that if you get blocked up bad enough you can become fatigued and yes, even queasy??? Well, I feel like a new woman!!! I am peppy again and my tummy is all but settled! I thought I read somewhere that Zoloft helps and irritable bowel, now I know! And it treats anxiety, depression, and PMS!!!! What a great medicine! PLUS, it is safe and non habit forming. Geeeeesh, I should do a commercial. LOL
All this to say, there is great help out there and no need to suffer for the sake of being "tough." The best advice I could ever give to anyone would be to live a life of preventative care. Get those PAPs and mammograms, eat right, drink lots of water, exercise, DONT SMOKE, and manage your stress! Our immune systems will do the rest.
Panik: You are so very welcome! And, in all seriousness...if you and your Mom ever come to austin seeking medical help you have a place to recover complete with cabana boys!
WIllow, Becky, you guys.....where are you????
Love to All,
Reze
bumble bee lovr
10-25-2003, 05:41 PM
Thank you Panik for your response about the hysterectomy. I wasn't sure why everyone was shooting for that-but with your explanation I def. understand! I just hope that they find something to stop the bleeding so that you can continue on with a positive healthy life-i'm praying for you.
Reze-I'm glad the medicine is working :) I will def. keep that in mind as the holidays and all that "stressful" stuff continue to keep coming. I'm pretty confident right now, but I get the results of the colo. and bio. back this week :(, im scared, and I know they will play a huge role in my attitude towards this thing-good or bad. Keep us posted if it continues to help-it sounds like it's making a big difference-i'm glad for you! :)
Just curious but when I talked to the doctor last week I asked about what strand of HPV I had..and she said "well there are a lot listed here 16, 18, 31" !!!????...all of the high risk strands I guess. I was wondering how big of a role that plays in the virus coming back. I think someone said (Reze maybe?) that Leep procedures "cure", for lack of a better word, about 95% of all HPV. And your body takes over after that and you have no more problems...as long as you stay on it. Is that right? And what about all the different strands? Is that like having to fight all those different types? Am I more likely to have to have follow ups and more Leep procedures? I was just curious.
Also how old is everyone-Panik you mentioned you were to young to have a hysterectomy, I'm only 23, so how old is too young? Hope everyone is having a safe and healthy happy weekend. I'm thinking about everyone! Take care
bee lovr
Reze-I'm glad the medicine is working :) I will def. keep that in mind as the holidays and all that "stressful" stuff continue to keep coming. I'm pretty confident right now, but I get the results of the colo. and bio. back this week :(, im scared, and I know they will play a huge role in my attitude towards this thing-good or bad. Keep us posted if it continues to help-it sounds like it's making a big difference-i'm glad for you! :)
Just curious but when I talked to the doctor last week I asked about what strand of HPV I had..and she said "well there are a lot listed here 16, 18, 31" !!!????...all of the high risk strands I guess. I was wondering how big of a role that plays in the virus coming back. I think someone said (Reze maybe?) that Leep procedures "cure", for lack of a better word, about 95% of all HPV. And your body takes over after that and you have no more problems...as long as you stay on it. Is that right? And what about all the different strands? Is that like having to fight all those different types? Am I more likely to have to have follow ups and more Leep procedures? I was just curious.
Also how old is everyone-Panik you mentioned you were to young to have a hysterectomy, I'm only 23, so how old is too young? Hope everyone is having a safe and healthy happy weekend. I'm thinking about everyone! Take care
bee lovr
Reze
10-26-2003, 02:57 AM
YIKES! Let me clarify something quickly....the LEEP cures dysplasia 95% of the time, not HPV. There is no cure for HPV presently, although they are very close to a vaccine just like Panik mentioned.
I do not know why some people have to have more than one LEEP while others do not....I am not sure if it has more to do with a woman's immune system or the particular strain of HPV, or both. Excellent question though BeeLover. My guess would be that they all play a role in how dysplasia responds to treatment.
I WANT A CIGARETTE!!!!!! Arggggggggh! Good thing there are none around or I'd be in big trouble. ACK!
I am off to do some midnight packing! My thoughts and prayers are with you all,
Reze
I do not know why some people have to have more than one LEEP while others do not....I am not sure if it has more to do with a woman's immune system or the particular strain of HPV, or both. Excellent question though BeeLover. My guess would be that they all play a role in how dysplasia responds to treatment.
I WANT A CIGARETTE!!!!!! Arggggggggh! Good thing there are none around or I'd be in big trouble. ACK!
I am off to do some midnight packing! My thoughts and prayers are with you all,
Reze
Willow Star
10-26-2003, 09:46 AM
Hi Reze....I'm still alive although there are bodies everywhere...sheesh, this quitting smoking is detrimental to other people's health! HA! Just kidding...hubby is still alive although I do have him tied up in the back room and I may have to shoot him if he keeps bugging the crap outta me. (I swear your Honour, I didn't know the gun was loaded!) Just kidding!! He's been very supportive even though I've chewed on his head a few times. It's Day 9 today and I'm doing pretty good. Cravings aren't too bad so far although I've been smacked in the head by a few good ones. I have also cleared out the entire contents of the fridge, the cupboards and any coat pockets ehre candy may have hidden. *sigh* I hope it stops soon. If these keeps up I swear I'm gonna explode. I go for the ultrasound on Wednesday and hopefully they won't find anything and just tell me I'm getting to be an old lady! And you're off to the docs on Thursday aren't you? By the way, where's my cabana boy? Do they come in different flavours? Can I have two? I'm feeling kinda needy cause I quit smoking. :D
Hey RMcRae...how is your non-smoking going? I know you were taking Zyban too. It's been working great for me with no side effects after the first week or so. The only problem I have now is the plumbing is backed up if you know what I mean, nudge, nudge, wink, wink! Both quitting smoking and the Zyban can cause that and boy oh boy it's fun. As if my tummy needed to stick out any more!!! Oh well, lots of water and pray like heck! Once it starts moving I bet it will be like a rocket! I'll have to wear a seatbelt so I don't blast off into space...tee hee! Let me know how you are doing with the quitting and healthwise. If you or Reze need to rant about the smoking I will gladly listen to you both! Did you get hypnotised?
Hey Panik...I saw about the guy going over Niagara Falls too!!! Holy crap I can't believe he lived to tell the tale! Have you ever seen Niagara Falls? I don't know how he ever lived through it. Apparently he was depressed and decided to end it, but he lived. When are you back at the docs next? It's not nice that you bled all over the chair at the hospital but I'm glad that now they can see exactly what you have been going through. You really need to become a vampire so that you can replenish all the blood you're losing! Had any tea incidents lately? I haven't cause dany major commotions lately (that I know of anyway) and have been working like crazy. I have company visiting for the weekend and they're all still being lazy in bed so thought I would pop on.
Beelover - nice to see you joining in! What day do yo get your results back? Please let us know when you do...we are all here to help and support you. You asked how old everyone is... my birth certificate SAYS 39 but I'm pretty sure that I'm only 25. There HAS to be a mistake somewhere! I'm thinking there might be a huge conspiracy (possibly the laundry again?) to mess with us and get us all committed so certain items of clothing can take over the world! Be afraid, be very afraid...LOL!
Okay girls, I'll be over in the hot tub waiting for you guys to join in so we can have some fun and giggle. Reze, can we get the cabana boys cleaned and pressed so they're ready for duty? I've got a fully stocked bar and coffee for those who don't want to drink. I can't wait!
Willow :D
Hey RMcRae...how is your non-smoking going? I know you were taking Zyban too. It's been working great for me with no side effects after the first week or so. The only problem I have now is the plumbing is backed up if you know what I mean, nudge, nudge, wink, wink! Both quitting smoking and the Zyban can cause that and boy oh boy it's fun. As if my tummy needed to stick out any more!!! Oh well, lots of water and pray like heck! Once it starts moving I bet it will be like a rocket! I'll have to wear a seatbelt so I don't blast off into space...tee hee! Let me know how you are doing with the quitting and healthwise. If you or Reze need to rant about the smoking I will gladly listen to you both! Did you get hypnotised?
Hey Panik...I saw about the guy going over Niagara Falls too!!! Holy crap I can't believe he lived to tell the tale! Have you ever seen Niagara Falls? I don't know how he ever lived through it. Apparently he was depressed and decided to end it, but he lived. When are you back at the docs next? It's not nice that you bled all over the chair at the hospital but I'm glad that now they can see exactly what you have been going through. You really need to become a vampire so that you can replenish all the blood you're losing! Had any tea incidents lately? I haven't cause dany major commotions lately (that I know of anyway) and have been working like crazy. I have company visiting for the weekend and they're all still being lazy in bed so thought I would pop on.
Beelover - nice to see you joining in! What day do yo get your results back? Please let us know when you do...we are all here to help and support you. You asked how old everyone is... my birth certificate SAYS 39 but I'm pretty sure that I'm only 25. There HAS to be a mistake somewhere! I'm thinking there might be a huge conspiracy (possibly the laundry again?) to mess with us and get us all committed so certain items of clothing can take over the world! Be afraid, be very afraid...LOL!
Okay girls, I'll be over in the hot tub waiting for you guys to join in so we can have some fun and giggle. Reze, can we get the cabana boys cleaned and pressed so they're ready for duty? I've got a fully stocked bar and coffee for those who don't want to drink. I can't wait!
Willow :D
RMcRae
10-27-2003, 04:05 PM
Hi Everybody!!!!!
How's it all going? Going ok here. I'm down to 2 cigarettes a day, and I only have three left in my pack and then I'm done. This sucks so bad. I'm a basketcase. I feel so bad for my boyfriend. I'll be happy, goofy, giggling and joking around with him one minute, then then next minute I'm laying in bed crying my eyes out for no reason. Do you have any idea how dumb I feel when he asks me why I'm crying and I honestly don't know?? I feel like I'm crazy or something. Willow, are you experiencing any of this? I just feel really alone on this one. I sure could use one of Reze's cabana boys to cuddle up to! :-)
Nik......how are you feeling? Good? I hope so. I'm still right here if 'ya need me! Now that I'm thinking of it........I bet that one of Reze's cabana boys would do ALL of us a little good.
I'm picturing us all sitting around in a hot tub drinking margaritas, one cabana boy waving a giant leaf fan over all of us, one cabana boy each rubbing our shoulders, one cabana boy getting us refills, another telling us all that we are the most beautiful creatures on earth, and another one doing a little strip tease for us. AHHHHHHHH......Sounds to me like a little piece of heaven.
Bumble........I'm 23 too! I had my Leep procedure done a little over a month ago, and was scared out of my mind about it. It wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be, and when the test results came back, everything was clear, and I don't have to go back until December. Hang in there girlie! We're all here for 'ya!
Well all, that's it for now.......I'm going to go back to daydreaming about those hot cabana boys.
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How's it all going? Going ok here. I'm down to 2 cigarettes a day, and I only have three left in my pack and then I'm done. This sucks so bad. I'm a basketcase. I feel so bad for my boyfriend. I'll be happy, goofy, giggling and joking around with him one minute, then then next minute I'm laying in bed crying my eyes out for no reason. Do you have any idea how dumb I feel when he asks me why I'm crying and I honestly don't know?? I feel like I'm crazy or something. Willow, are you experiencing any of this? I just feel really alone on this one. I sure could use one of Reze's cabana boys to cuddle up to! :-)
Nik......how are you feeling? Good? I hope so. I'm still right here if 'ya need me! Now that I'm thinking of it........I bet that one of Reze's cabana boys would do ALL of us a little good.
I'm picturing us all sitting around in a hot tub drinking margaritas, one cabana boy waving a giant leaf fan over all of us, one cabana boy each rubbing our shoulders, one cabana boy getting us refills, another telling us all that we are the most beautiful creatures on earth, and another one doing a little strip tease for us. AHHHHHHHH......Sounds to me like a little piece of heaven.
Bumble........I'm 23 too! I had my Leep procedure done a little over a month ago, and was scared out of my mind about it. It wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be, and when the test results came back, everything was clear, and I don't have to go back until December. Hang in there girlie! We're all here for 'ya!
Well all, that's it for now.......I'm going to go back to daydreaming about those hot cabana boys.
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PaNik5717
10-27-2003, 04:28 PM
You know, several months back when my body was making as much blood as it was losing and I was only mildly anemic, my doc told me to go out and have two kids and come back and he would fix me.
Maybe this cabana boy idea has something to it. My mom has been looking for donors and Reze has finally found one.
Thans for keeping me in your thoughts, guys. I know my situation is unique, but you guys are great for empathizing. My hemoglobin dropped to 6 last week. At the high altitude where I live, I guess 6 can be really dangerous. The doc who ordered the tests is two hours away and my local doc was on vacation! She called today and says they don't like to transfuse someone so young. She also said they hate to do it when they don't know the cause. She is working on a referral to a hematologist in the city ASAP.
I wonder how many people "my age" die waiting until they are old enough to get some of these procedures?
You guys are so strong with your efforts to quit smoking. I can't wait until each of you has that first day under your belt. And, if it happens, remember that a relapse is an opportunity. That's what we said when I was working with people who needed treatment for substance abuse instead of incarceration.
Speaking of incarceration, please don't kill any cabana boys over this smoking stuff!!
Hugs,
nik
Maybe this cabana boy idea has something to it. My mom has been looking for donors and Reze has finally found one.
Thans for keeping me in your thoughts, guys. I know my situation is unique, but you guys are great for empathizing. My hemoglobin dropped to 6 last week. At the high altitude where I live, I guess 6 can be really dangerous. The doc who ordered the tests is two hours away and my local doc was on vacation! She called today and says they don't like to transfuse someone so young. She also said they hate to do it when they don't know the cause. She is working on a referral to a hematologist in the city ASAP.
I wonder how many people "my age" die waiting until they are old enough to get some of these procedures?
You guys are so strong with your efforts to quit smoking. I can't wait until each of you has that first day under your belt. And, if it happens, remember that a relapse is an opportunity. That's what we said when I was working with people who needed treatment for substance abuse instead of incarceration.
Speaking of incarceration, please don't kill any cabana boys over this smoking stuff!!
Hugs,
nik
bumble bee lovr
10-28-2003, 01:26 AM
hi girls..hope everyone's monday was better than most mondays ;)
Still sorry to hear about the smoking-i'm praying for all of you and hoping for a quick "get over" time. Just continue to remind yourself how important this is to your health-no matter how bad it sucks!
Panik-I sure hope those doctors can get you fixed up soon-I looked on the internet shortly for some different things about blood loss and stuff but really didn't find a thing. I think that doctor's are stupid when they talk about age and "being too young" for a medical treatment-unfortunately some people need things for their bodies at earlier times in their lives-I dont think age should be a factor, especially in your situation. Tell them you're ready for cabana boys and you're not taking no for an answer. Get lots of rest and I'll continue to send hugs your way.
The doctor called today-they have my bio. results. I called back but the women informed me that she was "walking out the door and I would need to call back tomorrow" :( so tomorrow morning first thing i'm calling. I hope it's not horrible news :( I'm especially worried about the endo cervical cells, but really just worried and concerned about the whole thing. Please be thinking about me tomorrow ;( I hope it's not too bad considering I have 20 students to take care of tomorrow (might have to take the day off if the news is bad). But I'm going to bed with happy thoughts! Positive happy thoughts. I'll keep everyone posted. Thank you for being a sounding board-I dont know what I would do without this neat lil box in front of me and all the new friends I meet through it-even if we have to meet under not so good circumstances :( Happy Tuesday to All! :) Goodnight
bee lovr
Still sorry to hear about the smoking-i'm praying for all of you and hoping for a quick "get over" time. Just continue to remind yourself how important this is to your health-no matter how bad it sucks!
Panik-I sure hope those doctors can get you fixed up soon-I looked on the internet shortly for some different things about blood loss and stuff but really didn't find a thing. I think that doctor's are stupid when they talk about age and "being too young" for a medical treatment-unfortunately some people need things for their bodies at earlier times in their lives-I dont think age should be a factor, especially in your situation. Tell them you're ready for cabana boys and you're not taking no for an answer. Get lots of rest and I'll continue to send hugs your way.
The doctor called today-they have my bio. results. I called back but the women informed me that she was "walking out the door and I would need to call back tomorrow" :( so tomorrow morning first thing i'm calling. I hope it's not horrible news :( I'm especially worried about the endo cervical cells, but really just worried and concerned about the whole thing. Please be thinking about me tomorrow ;( I hope it's not too bad considering I have 20 students to take care of tomorrow (might have to take the day off if the news is bad). But I'm going to bed with happy thoughts! Positive happy thoughts. I'll keep everyone posted. Thank you for being a sounding board-I dont know what I would do without this neat lil box in front of me and all the new friends I meet through it-even if we have to meet under not so good circumstances :( Happy Tuesday to All! :) Goodnight
bee lovr
PaNik5717
10-28-2003, 10:31 AM
Hi Bee Lovr,
Thanks for trying and thanks for the advice. Rest seems to help so much, yet, I feel guilty for napping even though I am home alone all the time. I slept a lot on Sunday and didn't feel completely hung over by evening, but I couldn't make myself do it yesterday. My mom's bead shows are coming up and we have work to do! Of course, with no oxygen getting to my brain, I have lost the ability to count. Oops!
We will be thinking about you this morning. Let us know the news as soon as you can! And, happy tuesday to you, too.
Nik
Thanks for trying and thanks for the advice. Rest seems to help so much, yet, I feel guilty for napping even though I am home alone all the time. I slept a lot on Sunday and didn't feel completely hung over by evening, but I couldn't make myself do it yesterday. My mom's bead shows are coming up and we have work to do! Of course, with no oxygen getting to my brain, I have lost the ability to count. Oops!
We will be thinking about you this morning. Let us know the news as soon as you can! And, happy tuesday to you, too.
Nik
bumble bee lovr
10-28-2003, 03:27 PM
well I called this morning and the women ran off so many high tech medical terms that i was lost :( I dont know what people do that dont read and do research..cause I was lost. Basically it's severe dysplasia, I have to have a Leep, no abnormal cells in the endo cervix but inflamation, and then acute flat warts??? or something on the cervix...so i asked her if I had high risk HPV and low risk and she said no???? so who knows...i think these people are lost as much as we were sometimes. She asked if I had a break out on the outside and i said no, but still she said I only have high risk...i thought high risk hpv didn't cause the warts..only dysplasia of the cervix..i am more confused then when i started :(
all i know is they told me that they didn't think it would go from an ASCUS report to severe...only mild or moderate...so now it's severe in 2 months...doesn't that mean it's fast growing/changing? what do you guys think will come next? Any info would be appreciated...i can't stop thinking that i'm going to have to deal with this repeatedly until im like 50 and finally have a hysterectomy, no children, and only my cats :( not a happy thought..anyone with similiar experiences? post LEEP results? thanks
bee lovr
all i know is they told me that they didn't think it would go from an ASCUS report to severe...only mild or moderate...so now it's severe in 2 months...doesn't that mean it's fast growing/changing? what do you guys think will come next? Any info would be appreciated...i can't stop thinking that i'm going to have to deal with this repeatedly until im like 50 and finally have a hysterectomy, no children, and only my cats :( not a happy thought..anyone with similiar experiences? post LEEP results? thanks
bee lovr
PaNik5717
10-28-2003, 03:44 PM
Oh Sweetie,
That is such sad news. I agree that they are as confused as we are - especially the nurses. But the docs are, too. The research really doesn't exist, so they tell us what they think or what they have seen in their practices. And that is all it is - PRACTICE.
ASCUS can actually be severe dysplasia. In most cases, it really isn't significant, but I did the research after my two post-LEEP ASCUS results and I saw that ASCUS can be anything. If you look at the regular statistics, severe dysplasia is the more uncommon result and having nothing wrong at all is most common. I am so sorry that statistics weren't in your favor.
But, the fact that it is still superficial - not in the canal - is one positive note. And the LEEP is not a big deal. We all make it a big deal because of the potential repurcussions - cancer is scary and it is a big deal. But, the LEEP itself is over very fast and it is sometimes hard to tell you even had surgery. You could go spend an innocent weekend with a cabana boy post-LEEP and he would never know you were in recovery!
Let us know when you learn more about your procedure - the date, the anesthesia... We'll be here.
Nik
That is such sad news. I agree that they are as confused as we are - especially the nurses. But the docs are, too. The research really doesn't exist, so they tell us what they think or what they have seen in their practices. And that is all it is - PRACTICE.
ASCUS can actually be severe dysplasia. In most cases, it really isn't significant, but I did the research after my two post-LEEP ASCUS results and I saw that ASCUS can be anything. If you look at the regular statistics, severe dysplasia is the more uncommon result and having nothing wrong at all is most common. I am so sorry that statistics weren't in your favor.
But, the fact that it is still superficial - not in the canal - is one positive note. And the LEEP is not a big deal. We all make it a big deal because of the potential repurcussions - cancer is scary and it is a big deal. But, the LEEP itself is over very fast and it is sometimes hard to tell you even had surgery. You could go spend an innocent weekend with a cabana boy post-LEEP and he would never know you were in recovery!
Let us know when you learn more about your procedure - the date, the anesthesia... We'll be here.
Nik
Bitter5w33t
10-28-2003, 06:22 PM
beelovr! aww i'm really sorry to hear about your results. keep us posted on when your leep is. i will be thinking about you!
jamie
jamie
brandnew
10-28-2003, 07:10 PM
Hi all! This is my first time on the board but have been reading it for months now. My story started a while ago when I was diagnosed with HPV and dysplasia. My doctor followed it for a while when we finally decided to do a LEEP. We did the LEEP and did a follow up pap about 5 or 6 months later and it again came back abnormal. So of course I have been having anxiety attacks ever since. She then did the colpo and said that my cervix looked good and didn't want to do another biopsy yet because 1. she did not see anything to biopsy and 2. didn't want to hurt my cervix since i am without children. So now I am going back next week for another pap smear. I am terrified that it is going to come back abnormal again and then off to a specialist i go. Has anyone had this happen to them and could you share your experiences with me. Thanks
PaNik5717
10-28-2003, 07:29 PM
Hi there,
I had the exact same thing happen and I am at the same stage as you. I had the LEEP in May. My follow-up in August was ASCUS. I had another follow-up in September with my new doc and it was ASCUS again. I was having surgery at the beginning of the month so I asked her to do the colpo while I was asleep and she did. She said she didn't see anything, but she did do a few biopsies and they came back "benign."
I guess that means that I have to go back in three months, but she said not to worry about that now and that she nows we will be talking many times before then.
I can't tell you if you will finally have a normal pap next time, but I wanted to let you know that you are not the only one.
I had the exact same thing happen and I am at the same stage as you. I had the LEEP in May. My follow-up in August was ASCUS. I had another follow-up in September with my new doc and it was ASCUS again. I was having surgery at the beginning of the month so I asked her to do the colpo while I was asleep and she did. She said she didn't see anything, but she did do a few biopsies and they came back "benign."
I guess that means that I have to go back in three months, but she said not to worry about that now and that she nows we will be talking many times before then.
I can't tell you if you will finally have a normal pap next time, but I wanted to let you know that you are not the only one.
bumble bee lovr
10-29-2003, 12:04 AM
Thank you Panik-it's nice to know that there are people hear to listen and give great advice-reading everyone's replies puts a smile on my face :)
I was wondering if you had mild, moderate, or severe? Is this your first Leep, the one in May? Do they have any reason why the results came back ascus?
My Leep is schedule for a week from this friday, the 7th. They are going to do it in the doctor's office, with drugs and numbing of the cervix. I'm not really worried about that part, because the bio. and colo. didn't hurt, and most people think they are more uncomfortable then the Leep. The vicadin (sp.?) did wonders for me so I'm ok with that. I'm worried about the afterwards. What are the odds of severe dysplasia returning after a LEEP? Does anyone know?
Sorry I'm rambling but does anyone have any ideas about the warts that I mentioned earlier? Is that two different strains? Is that making my immune system have more difficulty fighting? I'm so confused-sorry.
I have started a women's multi vitamin, dont' smoke, stopped drinking, I feel healthier than I've ever been-so I know i'm doing the right thing but is there anything else? I've read about green tea and all that extra stuff but who knows...my luck it will make it worse lol...not really funny but...
Cabana boys..hmmm :) i wish a good one for each of us. Wouldn't it be nice if we had all met through the cabana boys and not this horrible icky medical stuff. Any more info, stories, or ideas would be greatly appreciated. I'm still at a loss.
Do you think it'll end up in a hysterestomy? I know God gives you only things you can handle...but i dont know about that...ive always wanted tons of children...i'm not against adoption, actually we've always wanted to adopt..but i just need to have one of my own...i'll never feel whole if i can't carry our baby :( If there is a chance that is a possibility i need to know that up front...maybe start preparing myself. Once again I'm sorry for rambling..I apologize.
I hope everyone is going well. Once again you are all in my prayers-I would be lost without this board. Thank you,
bee lovr
I was wondering if you had mild, moderate, or severe? Is this your first Leep, the one in May? Do they have any reason why the results came back ascus?
My Leep is schedule for a week from this friday, the 7th. They are going to do it in the doctor's office, with drugs and numbing of the cervix. I'm not really worried about that part, because the bio. and colo. didn't hurt, and most people think they are more uncomfortable then the Leep. The vicadin (sp.?) did wonders for me so I'm ok with that. I'm worried about the afterwards. What are the odds of severe dysplasia returning after a LEEP? Does anyone know?
Sorry I'm rambling but does anyone have any ideas about the warts that I mentioned earlier? Is that two different strains? Is that making my immune system have more difficulty fighting? I'm so confused-sorry.
I have started a women's multi vitamin, dont' smoke, stopped drinking, I feel healthier than I've ever been-so I know i'm doing the right thing but is there anything else? I've read about green tea and all that extra stuff but who knows...my luck it will make it worse lol...not really funny but...
Cabana boys..hmmm :) i wish a good one for each of us. Wouldn't it be nice if we had all met through the cabana boys and not this horrible icky medical stuff. Any more info, stories, or ideas would be greatly appreciated. I'm still at a loss.
Do you think it'll end up in a hysterestomy? I know God gives you only things you can handle...but i dont know about that...ive always wanted tons of children...i'm not against adoption, actually we've always wanted to adopt..but i just need to have one of my own...i'll never feel whole if i can't carry our baby :( If there is a chance that is a possibility i need to know that up front...maybe start preparing myself. Once again I'm sorry for rambling..I apologize.
I hope everyone is going well. Once again you are all in my prayers-I would be lost without this board. Thank you,
bee lovr
PaNik5717
10-29-2003, 10:58 AM
Hi Bee Lovr,
Can we get you through your first LEEP before we worry about hysterectomy? Sever dysplasia is highly treatable. It seems very rare that it comes back to severe right after the LEEP. In fact, most often, the women are here through the first LEEP and then they don't come back. Everything is all better! Some, though, end up with mild to moderate dysplasia. And, that can be treated again. It is unfortunate to have to go through more than once, but these procedures should save your uterus. And, the only real "going through" is the emotional part because the procedures really aren't a big deal. Just make sure you take the recovery seriously. Plan ahead for no lifting, no straining, etc. This should not keep you from carrying your own baby, but I know you coudl handle it if that was your test. I don't remember the passage, but Paul talks about women without children and how they are mothers to all children.
Please try to relax. You are doing everything else right, but you have to take out as much stress as you can from your life. Where are you in Illinois? I lived in Chicago for a year, but I don't know much about the rest of the state. Tell me what kind of fun things can be done there. Hey, I have an idea. Why don't we all go all out for Halloween. Make homemade treats for the neighbor kids and buy tons of candy for the others. Come up with a costume, decorate, make jack-o-lanterns. Make this the obsession for the next three days. The Food Network has some great ideas for easy homemade treats. I'm sure they are on their website.
I have decided that we are going to take our three giant bags of candy to my grandfather's house. He lives close by, but on a busier street. All of the kids from the reservation come to our neighborhood because they don't really have neighborhoods. Every year my grandfather turns out the lights and hides, but I know he would get a big kick out of the kids. So, we are going to invade with candy and make it a little party. He just turned 75. (I bled all over his couch at his party - opps. Just about ruined the couch to wash it.)
You know, my doc and I didn't really get to talk about why I was ASCUS. I have heard things may look a little odd during the healing process. Things also look a little different from HPV, even if there isn't dysplasia. But, the main reason is probably my bleeding. I have heard you can get abnormal results if you are on your period - and I have been for five months. She and I didn't discuss the cervix much at all because that has become a "minor" issue in her mind compared to the bleeding. She is trying to keep me alive NOW and the cervical thing would take a few years to kill me. How amazing is that for perspective? It took me trying to bleed to death to make the dysplasia a minor issue.
Off to rest up for this big Halloween celebration!
Nik
Can we get you through your first LEEP before we worry about hysterectomy? Sever dysplasia is highly treatable. It seems very rare that it comes back to severe right after the LEEP. In fact, most often, the women are here through the first LEEP and then they don't come back. Everything is all better! Some, though, end up with mild to moderate dysplasia. And, that can be treated again. It is unfortunate to have to go through more than once, but these procedures should save your uterus. And, the only real "going through" is the emotional part because the procedures really aren't a big deal. Just make sure you take the recovery seriously. Plan ahead for no lifting, no straining, etc. This should not keep you from carrying your own baby, but I know you coudl handle it if that was your test. I don't remember the passage, but Paul talks about women without children and how they are mothers to all children.
Please try to relax. You are doing everything else right, but you have to take out as much stress as you can from your life. Where are you in Illinois? I lived in Chicago for a year, but I don't know much about the rest of the state. Tell me what kind of fun things can be done there. Hey, I have an idea. Why don't we all go all out for Halloween. Make homemade treats for the neighbor kids and buy tons of candy for the others. Come up with a costume, decorate, make jack-o-lanterns. Make this the obsession for the next three days. The Food Network has some great ideas for easy homemade treats. I'm sure they are on their website.
I have decided that we are going to take our three giant bags of candy to my grandfather's house. He lives close by, but on a busier street. All of the kids from the reservation come to our neighborhood because they don't really have neighborhoods. Every year my grandfather turns out the lights and hides, but I know he would get a big kick out of the kids. So, we are going to invade with candy and make it a little party. He just turned 75. (I bled all over his couch at his party - opps. Just about ruined the couch to wash it.)
You know, my doc and I didn't really get to talk about why I was ASCUS. I have heard things may look a little odd during the healing process. Things also look a little different from HPV, even if there isn't dysplasia. But, the main reason is probably my bleeding. I have heard you can get abnormal results if you are on your period - and I have been for five months. She and I didn't discuss the cervix much at all because that has become a "minor" issue in her mind compared to the bleeding. She is trying to keep me alive NOW and the cervical thing would take a few years to kill me. How amazing is that for perspective? It took me trying to bleed to death to make the dysplasia a minor issue.
Off to rest up for this big Halloween celebration!
Nik
RMcRae
10-29-2003, 01:46 PM
Willow:
I know you're taking Welbutrin and I need to ask you a question.
Are you suffering from depression?????
I've been going along just fine, except that I hadn't been able to get a good night's sleep up until this past week. I cut down on my cigarettes, and I've actually gone over 24 hours now without one. Starting day before yesterday, I am suffering from severe depression! I have no idea what the hell is going on, but it's really scaring me. I've got a call into the doctor, but haven't heard anything yet. It started Monday morning. When I woke up, I felt SO sad, and just did NOT want to get out of bed. I pulled myself together and went to work, but as soon as I got home, I just started bawling for NO reason, and could not stop. I got into my PJ's and went in and laid down until dinner was ready (my boyfriend fixed it for me), and even then I didn't want to get out of bed. Same thing happened yesterday. Went to work, got home, started bawling for no reason, went to bed. I feel so bad because my boyfriend is really worried, and keeps asking me what's wrong and what he can do, but I can't tell him anything because I have no idea what is going on! It's really weird, not to mention I'm SOOOO tired from all the crying. I can handle everything while I'm at work, but as soon as I get home the tear ducts start working overtime! Are you experiencing anything like this at all???? I feel like I'm Alice in that scene from Alice in Wonderland where she fills the room up with her tears. I'm not a cryer, so I have no idea where this is coming from or why it's happening. Even when I'm at home, and I get the crying under control, the littlest thing will set it off again. Like last night, I went out to the kitchen to eat dinner, and dropped a slice of bread on the floor.....well, that's all she wrote......bawling again.
If anyone else has any ideas, or suggestions, I'm totally open here!
I feel like I need to be committed or something.
I know you're taking Welbutrin and I need to ask you a question.
Are you suffering from depression?????
I've been going along just fine, except that I hadn't been able to get a good night's sleep up until this past week. I cut down on my cigarettes, and I've actually gone over 24 hours now without one. Starting day before yesterday, I am suffering from severe depression! I have no idea what the hell is going on, but it's really scaring me. I've got a call into the doctor, but haven't heard anything yet. It started Monday morning. When I woke up, I felt SO sad, and just did NOT want to get out of bed. I pulled myself together and went to work, but as soon as I got home, I just started bawling for NO reason, and could not stop. I got into my PJ's and went in and laid down until dinner was ready (my boyfriend fixed it for me), and even then I didn't want to get out of bed. Same thing happened yesterday. Went to work, got home, started bawling for no reason, went to bed. I feel so bad because my boyfriend is really worried, and keeps asking me what's wrong and what he can do, but I can't tell him anything because I have no idea what is going on! It's really weird, not to mention I'm SOOOO tired from all the crying. I can handle everything while I'm at work, but as soon as I get home the tear ducts start working overtime! Are you experiencing anything like this at all???? I feel like I'm Alice in that scene from Alice in Wonderland where she fills the room up with her tears. I'm not a cryer, so I have no idea where this is coming from or why it's happening. Even when I'm at home, and I get the crying under control, the littlest thing will set it off again. Like last night, I went out to the kitchen to eat dinner, and dropped a slice of bread on the floor.....well, that's all she wrote......bawling again.
If anyone else has any ideas, or suggestions, I'm totally open here!
I feel like I need to be committed or something.
Willow Star
10-29-2003, 06:27 PM
Hi Beckie,
I know how you feel. I've been out of sorts too. I think it's a combination of the Zyban (I don't think it works the same on people who are not depressed) and the fact that your whole life has been turned upside down. Your whole world is changing, the way you deal with things, etc because you are quitting smoking so it's bound to make you feel out of sorts. A lot of people get emotional when they quit, it's like their whole life is not the same and the world they knew is gone. I know it sounds dramatic but that's exactly the way I feel and I know a lot of people on another stop smoking site go through the same thing. I think seeing your doc is a good thing. If it's really making you that crazy then maybe you need to cut back or stop taking it. I find that my anxiety level has shot up really high in the last few days. I am literally making myself crazy. I had chest pains Monday and was so close to going to the hospital. I went to see my doc today and she is sending me for tests but she thinks it's anxiety related. There are other reasons she would like to rule out but she's fairly confident that I'm having anxiety attacks. It's making me absolutely CRAZY!!! I had panic attacks quite a few years ago but got over them and have basically had no problems since then so hopefully it is just my overactive imagination. How long have you been taking it now? I have been taking it for about three and a half weeks. If no other reason is found for pains and the anxiety is still here then I think I am going to talk to her about cutting the dose in half or stopping altogether. I was doing okay on the sleep thing but like I said, all of a sudden the last few days have been hell. It could be something else wrong, we'll have to wait and see when the tests come back. I think I may be locked up in the mental hospital by then! Save me one of those nice white coats woth the arms that tie...maybe we could be rromates??!! lol Don't worry my dear...the feelings you are having I think are somewhat normal. Talk to your doc and if they persist then you definitely need to do something about it. The first three days I quit were very, very wierd for me. I had a lot of withdrawal symptoms and I was very moody and would cry at the drop of a hat. Somedays I still do. It will take time for you to adjust to your new life so go easy on yourself and really pamper yourself the first few days you don't smoke. Let me know what your doc says.
Now, Reze...tell me about fibroids if you could please? Send over a cabana boy with a nice Bloody Caesar and I'll pull my chair up real close and try to soak it all in. Had the trans vaginal ultrasound today. When I first got there the nurse asked if I was going straight up to see the doc after and I told her that my gyn (I think) was just sending me to make me feel better and I wouldn't be seeing him for six months unless something funny showed up today. I told her he suspected MAYBE a small fibroid. Well, she spent about 15 minutes at least just on my right side and when she went to the left, she said "does it hurt when I push here?" and I said no. A minute later she said "I'm just going to get the doctor. I think he should see this.". Okay, so by the time she got back with the doc I already had my funeral planned and had divvied up all my loot and worldly possessions. They looked at it and she said there is a rather large fibroid in one spot, a small one in another and a polyp near the fundus which I have since found out is the top of the uterus. And I thought to myself, I said "Self...I knew something wasn't right and wait till my doc sees that!". She didn't show me the ultrasound or tell me how large the "rather large" fibroid is. I asked if I should make an appointment with the gyn and she said that she was pretty sure he would be calling me. If he doesn't call in 10 days then she told me to call him. So that's my story today. Hey, you go to the doc tomorrow....let me know how it goes! Are you going to push for a hysterectomy?
Hey Panik...the ultrasound wasn't too bad at all. Only me and the nurse until the doc came in. At least I didn't have people popping up and down between my legs like you did poor thing. Didn't you say you had lots of resident doctors in training there or something? It would be like "Whack a Mole" at the Midway, everybody popping up. lol. How are you feeling? Have you drowned anyone lately? It sounds like this doc might really do something about this..YEAH!
Okay, I'll FINALLY shut up and go relax. I've missed you guys lately (my own fault) as I've been so absorbed in my own little wierd world but I promise not to do that again!!!Let me know how you are all doing, you too bee lover and brandnew!
Willow :D
I know how you feel. I've been out of sorts too. I think it's a combination of the Zyban (I don't think it works the same on people who are not depressed) and the fact that your whole life has been turned upside down. Your whole world is changing, the way you deal with things, etc because you are quitting smoking so it's bound to make you feel out of sorts. A lot of people get emotional when they quit, it's like their whole life is not the same and the world they knew is gone. I know it sounds dramatic but that's exactly the way I feel and I know a lot of people on another stop smoking site go through the same thing. I think seeing your doc is a good thing. If it's really making you that crazy then maybe you need to cut back or stop taking it. I find that my anxiety level has shot up really high in the last few days. I am literally making myself crazy. I had chest pains Monday and was so close to going to the hospital. I went to see my doc today and she is sending me for tests but she thinks it's anxiety related. There are other reasons she would like to rule out but she's fairly confident that I'm having anxiety attacks. It's making me absolutely CRAZY!!! I had panic attacks quite a few years ago but got over them and have basically had no problems since then so hopefully it is just my overactive imagination. How long have you been taking it now? I have been taking it for about three and a half weeks. If no other reason is found for pains and the anxiety is still here then I think I am going to talk to her about cutting the dose in half or stopping altogether. I was doing okay on the sleep thing but like I said, all of a sudden the last few days have been hell. It could be something else wrong, we'll have to wait and see when the tests come back. I think I may be locked up in the mental hospital by then! Save me one of those nice white coats woth the arms that tie...maybe we could be rromates??!! lol Don't worry my dear...the feelings you are having I think are somewhat normal. Talk to your doc and if they persist then you definitely need to do something about it. The first three days I quit were very, very wierd for me. I had a lot of withdrawal symptoms and I was very moody and would cry at the drop of a hat. Somedays I still do. It will take time for you to adjust to your new life so go easy on yourself and really pamper yourself the first few days you don't smoke. Let me know what your doc says.
Now, Reze...tell me about fibroids if you could please? Send over a cabana boy with a nice Bloody Caesar and I'll pull my chair up real close and try to soak it all in. Had the trans vaginal ultrasound today. When I first got there the nurse asked if I was going straight up to see the doc after and I told her that my gyn (I think) was just sending me to make me feel better and I wouldn't be seeing him for six months unless something funny showed up today. I told her he suspected MAYBE a small fibroid. Well, she spent about 15 minutes at least just on my right side and when she went to the left, she said "does it hurt when I push here?" and I said no. A minute later she said "I'm just going to get the doctor. I think he should see this.". Okay, so by the time she got back with the doc I already had my funeral planned and had divvied up all my loot and worldly possessions. They looked at it and she said there is a rather large fibroid in one spot, a small one in another and a polyp near the fundus which I have since found out is the top of the uterus. And I thought to myself, I said "Self...I knew something wasn't right and wait till my doc sees that!". She didn't show me the ultrasound or tell me how large the "rather large" fibroid is. I asked if I should make an appointment with the gyn and she said that she was pretty sure he would be calling me. If he doesn't call in 10 days then she told me to call him. So that's my story today. Hey, you go to the doc tomorrow....let me know how it goes! Are you going to push for a hysterectomy?
Hey Panik...the ultrasound wasn't too bad at all. Only me and the nurse until the doc came in. At least I didn't have people popping up and down between my legs like you did poor thing. Didn't you say you had lots of resident doctors in training there or something? It would be like "Whack a Mole" at the Midway, everybody popping up. lol. How are you feeling? Have you drowned anyone lately? It sounds like this doc might really do something about this..YEAH!
Okay, I'll FINALLY shut up and go relax. I've missed you guys lately (my own fault) as I've been so absorbed in my own little wierd world but I promise not to do that again!!!Let me know how you are all doing, you too bee lover and brandnew!
Willow :D
bumble bee lovr
10-30-2003, 12:24 AM
Panik-wow you're great. I over react about everything in the beginning and i guess the most frustrating part is no one at the Doctor's office being able to tell me anything (isn't that where they are suppose to tell you stuff?) lol ironic....anyways i'm still worried, not happy, and very confused but i'll get through this.
Sounds like there is a lot more people here going through worse things. :( I'm sorry for that
Does anyone know why you are still bleeding? Is it from the cervix and the Leep? It sounds painful and I'm def. thinking about you. Do they know what to do next? To answer your question I live in Central Illinois. Approximately 2 or 3 hours from Chicago. I love Chicago-not to live lol but to visit. Everyone that I graduated college with is from Chicago-fond memories of that town :) Bars, food, laughs, and good college friends. Was your experience as good? Many people do not like the cold weather-and I can def. agree with that!
Girls with the depression-beckie and willow I'm so sorry. It sounds sad and I'm not in your position but I know how the tear ducts just keep em flowing even when you dont want to be crying and you dont even know why you are crying. I think that mentally this is just playing a huge role on everyone. And when you quit smoking it has to make that 150 times worse-I will be rooting for you! :) Let's do what Panik suggested and spend the next 3 or 4 days celebrating Halloween :) I could def. dress a nice cabana boy up lol!
And someone please fill me in on the fibroids thing? What are they? What do they do and feel like? And what causes them? They dont sound pleasant.
Thanks for everything! I enjoy reading these post-very helpful and everyone's very thoughtful. You will each be in my thoughts and prayers!
good night
bee lovr
Sounds like there is a lot more people here going through worse things. :( I'm sorry for that
Does anyone know why you are still bleeding? Is it from the cervix and the Leep? It sounds painful and I'm def. thinking about you. Do they know what to do next? To answer your question I live in Central Illinois. Approximately 2 or 3 hours from Chicago. I love Chicago-not to live lol but to visit. Everyone that I graduated college with is from Chicago-fond memories of that town :) Bars, food, laughs, and good college friends. Was your experience as good? Many people do not like the cold weather-and I can def. agree with that!
Girls with the depression-beckie and willow I'm so sorry. It sounds sad and I'm not in your position but I know how the tear ducts just keep em flowing even when you dont want to be crying and you dont even know why you are crying. I think that mentally this is just playing a huge role on everyone. And when you quit smoking it has to make that 150 times worse-I will be rooting for you! :) Let's do what Panik suggested and spend the next 3 or 4 days celebrating Halloween :) I could def. dress a nice cabana boy up lol!
And someone please fill me in on the fibroids thing? What are they? What do they do and feel like? And what causes them? They dont sound pleasant.
Thanks for everything! I enjoy reading these post-very helpful and everyone's very thoughtful. You will each be in my thoughts and prayers!
good night
bee lovr
bumble bee lovr
10-30-2003, 12:26 AM
Panik-wow you're great. I over react about everything in the beginning and i guess the most frustrating part is no one at the Doctor's office being able to tell me anything (isn't that where they are suppose to tell you stuff?) lol ironic....anyways i'm still worried, not happy, and very confused but i'll get through this.
Sounds like there is a lot more people here going through worse things. :( I'm sorry for that
Does anyone know why you are still bleeding? Is it from the cervix and the Leep? It sounds painful and I'm def. thinking about you. Do they know what to do next? To answer your question I live in Central Illinois. Approximately 2 or 3 hours from Chicago. I love Chicago-not to live lol but to visit. Everyone that I graduated college with is from Chicago-fond memories of that town :) Bars, food, laughs, and good college friends. Was your experience as good? Many people do not like the cold weather-and I can def. agree with that!
Girls with the depression-beckie and willow I'm so sorry. It sounds sad and I'm not in your position but I know how the tear ducts just keep em flowing even when you dont want to be crying and you dont even know why you are crying. I think that mentally this is just playing a huge role on everyone. And when you quit smoking it has to make that 150 times worse-I will be rooting for you! :) Let's do what Panik suggested and spend the next 3 or 4 days celebrating Halloween :) I could def. dress a nice cabana boy up lol!
And someone please fill me in on the fibroids thing? What are they? What do they do and feel like? And what causes them? They dont sound pleasant.
Thanks for everything! I enjoy reading these post-very helpful and everyone's very thoughtful. You will each be in my thoughts and prayers!
good night
bee lovr
Sounds like there is a lot more people here going through worse things. :( I'm sorry for that
Does anyone know why you are still bleeding? Is it from the cervix and the Leep? It sounds painful and I'm def. thinking about you. Do they know what to do next? To answer your question I live in Central Illinois. Approximately 2 or 3 hours from Chicago. I love Chicago-not to live lol but to visit. Everyone that I graduated college with is from Chicago-fond memories of that town :) Bars, food, laughs, and good college friends. Was your experience as good? Many people do not like the cold weather-and I can def. agree with that!
Girls with the depression-beckie and willow I'm so sorry. It sounds sad and I'm not in your position but I know how the tear ducts just keep em flowing even when you dont want to be crying and you dont even know why you are crying. I think that mentally this is just playing a huge role on everyone. And when you quit smoking it has to make that 150 times worse-I will be rooting for you! :) Let's do what Panik suggested and spend the next 3 or 4 days celebrating Halloween :) I could def. dress a nice cabana boy up lol!
And someone please fill me in on the fibroids thing? What are they? What do they do and feel like? And what causes them? They dont sound pleasant.
Thanks for everything! I enjoy reading these post-very helpful and everyone's very thoughtful. You will each be in my thoughts and prayers!
good night
bee lovr
bumble bee lovr
10-30-2003, 12:53 AM
Panik-wow you're great. I over react about everything in the beginning and i guess the most frustrating part is no one at the Doctor's office being able to tell me anything (isn't that where they are suppose to tell you stuff?) lol ironic....anyways i'm still worried, not happy, and very confused but i'll get through this.
Sounds like there is a lot more people here going through worse things. :( I'm sorry for that
Does anyone know why you are still bleeding? Is it from the cervix and the Leep? It sounds painful and I'm def. thinking about you. Do they know what to do next? To answer your question I live in Central Illinois. Approximately 2 or 3 hours from Chicago. I love Chicago-not to live lol but to visit. Everyone that I graduated college with is from Chicago-fond memories of that town :) Bars, food, laughs, and good college friends. Was your experience as good? Many people do not like the cold weather-and I can def. agree with that!
Girls with the depression-beckie and willow I'm so sorry. It sounds sad and I'm not in your position but I know how the tear ducts just keep em flowing even when you dont want to be crying and you dont even know why you are crying. I think that mentally this is just playing a huge role on everyone. And when you quit smoking it has to make that 150 times worse-I will be rooting for you! :) Let's do what Panik suggested and spend the next 3 or 4 days celebrating Halloween :) I could def. dress a nice cabana boy up lol!
And someone please fill me in on the fibroids thing? What are they? What do they do and feel like? And what causes them? They dont sound pleasant.
Thanks for everything! I enjoy reading these post-very helpful and everyone's very thoughtful. You will each be in my thoughts and prayers!
good night
bee lovr
Sounds like there is a lot more people here going through worse things. :( I'm sorry for that
Does anyone know why you are still bleeding? Is it from the cervix and the Leep? It sounds painful and I'm def. thinking about you. Do they know what to do next? To answer your question I live in Central Illinois. Approximately 2 or 3 hours from Chicago. I love Chicago-not to live lol but to visit. Everyone that I graduated college with is from Chicago-fond memories of that town :) Bars, food, laughs, and good college friends. Was your experience as good? Many people do not like the cold weather-and I can def. agree with that!
Girls with the depression-beckie and willow I'm so sorry. It sounds sad and I'm not in your position but I know how the tear ducts just keep em flowing even when you dont want to be crying and you dont even know why you are crying. I think that mentally this is just playing a huge role on everyone. And when you quit smoking it has to make that 150 times worse-I will be rooting for you! :) Let's do what Panik suggested and spend the next 3 or 4 days celebrating Halloween :) I could def. dress a nice cabana boy up lol!
And someone please fill me in on the fibroids thing? What are they? What do they do and feel like? And what causes them? They dont sound pleasant.
Thanks for everything! I enjoy reading these post-very helpful and everyone's very thoughtful. You will each be in my thoughts and prayers!
good night
bee lovr
brandnew
10-30-2003, 04:07 PM
Thanks so much panik for replying to my message. The nurse scared me and said that it was unusual but that my doctor would probably refer me to a specialist if it came back abnormal again. I am just on pins and needles for the next few weeks. For some reason I just can not seem to calm myself down. I dream about it, and am always upset and afraid to be alone because I of course get panic stricken. Thanks you so much again for replying because at least i now know that I am not the only one. If anyone else out there has had this same experience please let me know how long it took to get a normal pap.
The site is the best!!
The site is the best!!
PaNik5717
10-30-2003, 05:23 PM
Hi Everyone,
Bee Lovr, I forgot to answer you the other day. My colpo before my LEEP was CIN II. The LEEP confirmed that and the margins were clear. Then, I had the two ASCUS paps and the clear colpo. I don't remember the results of my ECC's. My last doc never made a big deal of them and I wasn't taking this too seriously back then because I had a scare with an abnormal pap before and it ended up being nothing. I expected the same this time.
As for the bleeding, here is an update for you. It isn't cervical at all. I was anemic last February for no apparent reason. I had been craving ice so I asked my doc to test me when I went in for my annual pap. I started responding to iron pills well and they left it at that. Then, in April, I had an episode of excessive bleeding mid-cycle. I had never had anything like that happen. Doc didn't believe me until I bled all over his floor! He helped me to stop it and then I had a normal period. Then, I had the LEEP in May and didn't have any bleeding until after my post-LEEP exam when they scraped me with silver nitrate to help healing. Then, I started spotting a little. I also started a job as a river guide and every time I would row, I would bleed more, but it would also happen when I was lying in bed reading. By the end of June, it was every day, so I left that job and decided to try to slow things down. I tried to have a regular period in July and then I never stopped bleeding. It has gotten more and more out of control. Some days it would just happen all day. Other days, I would lose the same amount of blood in a few hours. I have seen three docs about it, been on two types of birth control pills taking multiple pills a day, had a D&C, and I'm now on Provera. Nothing can make it stop and I am afraid of the side effects of long term use of these drugs at high doses. Now, I am off to see a hematologist to see if he can find something wrong with me because no one else has been able to find anything at all.
Wow, long story. And, November is already here. See why I am baking cookies. My dad and my mom's boss said I should sell my cookies. I bet it would be a hassle to open a bakery, but it would be fun to get paid to bake.
I loved Chicago, too. I didn't get to go out much because of school. And I thought I knew cold, but I was wrong. It gets cold here, but that is only early in the morning. During the day when we have to function, it gets warmer. I loved the food most of all. In our neighborhood there was some excellent Thai food. Can't get that here. Some nice bars and coffee shops, too. Some of my favorite folk singers make regular stops there. Oh, and there is a shoe store called Fluevogs. Great line of funky shoes - not for the weak at heart. I have to buy them on-line now.
I coudl tell youa little about fibroids, but I think Reze would do a better job.
To everyone: Brandnew, Willow, Beckie, Reze, SmallChange, Lucky - hang in there. I know the weather is going to start to get depressing and life is going to get tougher with the holidays. Let's try to make this cervical stuff a minor part and focus on the life part. We are all still here and still alive. We don't have cancer and we know the best thing we can do to fight it off is to get back to living. Just like the terrorists, if we keep letting this interfere, it has won!
(Gosh, I sound so strong. I wish it was as easy to do as it is to type.)
Nik
Bee Lovr, I forgot to answer you the other day. My colpo before my LEEP was CIN II. The LEEP confirmed that and the margins were clear. Then, I had the two ASCUS paps and the clear colpo. I don't remember the results of my ECC's. My last doc never made a big deal of them and I wasn't taking this too seriously back then because I had a scare with an abnormal pap before and it ended up being nothing. I expected the same this time.
As for the bleeding, here is an update for you. It isn't cervical at all. I was anemic last February for no apparent reason. I had been craving ice so I asked my doc to test me when I went in for my annual pap. I started responding to iron pills well and they left it at that. Then, in April, I had an episode of excessive bleeding mid-cycle. I had never had anything like that happen. Doc didn't believe me until I bled all over his floor! He helped me to stop it and then I had a normal period. Then, I had the LEEP in May and didn't have any bleeding until after my post-LEEP exam when they scraped me with silver nitrate to help healing. Then, I started spotting a little. I also started a job as a river guide and every time I would row, I would bleed more, but it would also happen when I was lying in bed reading. By the end of June, it was every day, so I left that job and decided to try to slow things down. I tried to have a regular period in July and then I never stopped bleeding. It has gotten more and more out of control. Some days it would just happen all day. Other days, I would lose the same amount of blood in a few hours. I have seen three docs about it, been on two types of birth control pills taking multiple pills a day, had a D&C, and I'm now on Provera. Nothing can make it stop and I am afraid of the side effects of long term use of these drugs at high doses. Now, I am off to see a hematologist to see if he can find something wrong with me because no one else has been able to find anything at all.
Wow, long story. And, November is already here. See why I am baking cookies. My dad and my mom's boss said I should sell my cookies. I bet it would be a hassle to open a bakery, but it would be fun to get paid to bake.
I loved Chicago, too. I didn't get to go out much because of school. And I thought I knew cold, but I was wrong. It gets cold here, but that is only early in the morning. During the day when we have to function, it gets warmer. I loved the food most of all. In our neighborhood there was some excellent Thai food. Can't get that here. Some nice bars and coffee shops, too. Some of my favorite folk singers make regular stops there. Oh, and there is a shoe store called Fluevogs. Great line of funky shoes - not for the weak at heart. I have to buy them on-line now.
I coudl tell youa little about fibroids, but I think Reze would do a better job.
To everyone: Brandnew, Willow, Beckie, Reze, SmallChange, Lucky - hang in there. I know the weather is going to start to get depressing and life is going to get tougher with the holidays. Let's try to make this cervical stuff a minor part and focus on the life part. We are all still here and still alive. We don't have cancer and we know the best thing we can do to fight it off is to get back to living. Just like the terrorists, if we keep letting this interfere, it has won!
(Gosh, I sound so strong. I wish it was as easy to do as it is to type.)
Nik
RMcRae
10-31-2003, 01:44 PM
I just wanted to get on and wish everyone a very safe, and happy Halloween.
I hope you enjoy whatever festivities you partake in this evening.
I myself am going to gorge myself on candy. I think I might need one of those cabana boys to help me work off the calories!
Seriously though......have fun and be safe!
I hope you enjoy whatever festivities you partake in this evening.
I myself am going to gorge myself on candy. I think I might need one of those cabana boys to help me work off the calories!
Seriously though......have fun and be safe!
PaNik5717
11-04-2003, 11:15 AM
Hello Ladies:
I missed everyone this weekend. Weren't there some appointments last week and this week? Reze? Willow? Reze, I can't stand the suspense, how did your visit with your doc go.
I have my appointment with a hematologist today. Another trip to the "big" city. And this one is not a preferred provider so I will have to pay a ton of money for it. I am such a big baby. My dad hates to see my mom go anywhere without him so he has invited himself along on this trip. It is terribly upsetting to me because I will have to go through my whole history with this new doc with him in the room and he doesn't know all of my history. I just don't have that kind of relationship with him. Plus, he doesn't listen to the fun music my mom and I listen to and he's just not that easy going. She and I drive all over town getting our errands done in an efficient way. He has no fun and is terribly inefficient about it all. I remember the day of my surgery he stopped for greasy food on the way to the hospital and on the way out. Meanwhile, I was fasting. Completely inconsiderate. I shouldn't be so selfish, but this is my problem and these trips should be about me, not him.
Ugh. I really am a big baby. I doubt I will learn anything today, but I will let all of you know.
Nik
I missed everyone this weekend. Weren't there some appointments last week and this week? Reze? Willow? Reze, I can't stand the suspense, how did your visit with your doc go.
I have my appointment with a hematologist today. Another trip to the "big" city. And this one is not a preferred provider so I will have to pay a ton of money for it. I am such a big baby. My dad hates to see my mom go anywhere without him so he has invited himself along on this trip. It is terribly upsetting to me because I will have to go through my whole history with this new doc with him in the room and he doesn't know all of my history. I just don't have that kind of relationship with him. Plus, he doesn't listen to the fun music my mom and I listen to and he's just not that easy going. She and I drive all over town getting our errands done in an efficient way. He has no fun and is terribly inefficient about it all. I remember the day of my surgery he stopped for greasy food on the way to the hospital and on the way out. Meanwhile, I was fasting. Completely inconsiderate. I shouldn't be so selfish, but this is my problem and these trips should be about me, not him.
Ugh. I really am a big baby. I doubt I will learn anything today, but I will let all of you know.
Nik
Willow Star
11-09-2003, 11:32 PM
Hey Nik (and everybody else here!!)
How are you feeling my pale little friend?! How did your appt. go on the 4th with the hematologist? Were they able to find any reason for the bleeding at all? Good gravy they've been picking and poking at you for six months now...they have to figure it out! How was your Dad on the trip to the docs? Did you duct tape him to the back seat and make him be quiet the whole way lol? Sorry it's been so long since I've been on but I was sick with the flu for almost a week and am just now starting to feel better. As for me, my follow up colpo was good. Doc didn't see any evidence of dysplasia and was quite pleased. Told me I had to come back for a follow up in 6 months. I think I mentioned that I was going for a TV Ultrasound which showed a large fibroid, a small fibroid and a polyp. I don't know the exact size but will find out as the doc called and had already set up an appointment for a hysteroscopy (sp?) on the 17th. The nurse explained it and I'm thinking that I'm not gonna like it a whole lot! lol. Oh well...could be worse. So that's where I stand as of now...please let me know how you're doing and could you send me a few of those cookies you were baking previously??? I could really use some! Yum!
Reze...did you fall off the face of the Earth? Where are you my little turtle dove? How was your doc appt. on Oct. 30th? I imagine you and the hubby are all moved in to the new place and all snuggied down. I hope you didn't get Alzheimers and forget who we are for heaven's sake!!! Is that a sock I see lurking around the corner there??? He looks rather guilty...maybe he took Reze...oh no, I hope the nightmare isn't starting again!! I'm starting to think that Reze had all her laundry arrested and she was a witness at the trial and since they were worried about her, they put her in the witness protection program. That's probably the real reason she moved...do you think?
Beckie...my ex smoking pal....how are you doing? I've been thinking about you. It's been 22 days now for me that I haven't smoked. I think about it but only for a second. Not too many bad cravings like some people get. I just keep myself busy. Still on the Zyban and doing good. Even though quitting smoking and the Zyban seem to give me "airhead" syndrome, I don't think too many people will notice lol! I am normally scatterbrained at the best of times. If someone didn't call me by my name at least once a day I would forget it.
Hi brandnew and beelovr...brandnew, when do you get your pap results? Beelovr, how was your LEEP? Did it go okay? How are you feeling? Let us know.
Hope this goes through...been having a hard time connectiong to the boards lately.
Willow :D
How are you feeling my pale little friend?! How did your appt. go on the 4th with the hematologist? Were they able to find any reason for the bleeding at all? Good gravy they've been picking and poking at you for six months now...they have to figure it out! How was your Dad on the trip to the docs? Did you duct tape him to the back seat and make him be quiet the whole way lol? Sorry it's been so long since I've been on but I was sick with the flu for almost a week and am just now starting to feel better. As for me, my follow up colpo was good. Doc didn't see any evidence of dysplasia and was quite pleased. Told me I had to come back for a follow up in 6 months. I think I mentioned that I was going for a TV Ultrasound which showed a large fibroid, a small fibroid and a polyp. I don't know the exact size but will find out as the doc called and had already set up an appointment for a hysteroscopy (sp?) on the 17th. The nurse explained it and I'm thinking that I'm not gonna like it a whole lot! lol. Oh well...could be worse. So that's where I stand as of now...please let me know how you're doing and could you send me a few of those cookies you were baking previously??? I could really use some! Yum!
Reze...did you fall off the face of the Earth? Where are you my little turtle dove? How was your doc appt. on Oct. 30th? I imagine you and the hubby are all moved in to the new place and all snuggied down. I hope you didn't get Alzheimers and forget who we are for heaven's sake!!! Is that a sock I see lurking around the corner there??? He looks rather guilty...maybe he took Reze...oh no, I hope the nightmare isn't starting again!! I'm starting to think that Reze had all her laundry arrested and she was a witness at the trial and since they were worried about her, they put her in the witness protection program. That's probably the real reason she moved...do you think?
Beckie...my ex smoking pal....how are you doing? I've been thinking about you. It's been 22 days now for me that I haven't smoked. I think about it but only for a second. Not too many bad cravings like some people get. I just keep myself busy. Still on the Zyban and doing good. Even though quitting smoking and the Zyban seem to give me "airhead" syndrome, I don't think too many people will notice lol! I am normally scatterbrained at the best of times. If someone didn't call me by my name at least once a day I would forget it.
Hi brandnew and beelovr...brandnew, when do you get your pap results? Beelovr, how was your LEEP? Did it go okay? How are you feeling? Let us know.
Hope this goes through...been having a hard time connectiong to the boards lately.
Willow :D
bumble bee lovr
11-10-2003, 12:27 AM
Panik-let us know how the dr. apt. went. Have they figured it out yet?! I'm still praying for you :)
Willow-the Leep was fine-no problems, no complaints, I'm afraid she forgot to do some stuff while she was down there lol :) I feel fine-I just hope and pray that the results come back clear. I'm so scared it will be bad news.
As for everyone else-I hope you are doing good. Busy time of the year is coming up! I hope to enjoy this year-less stress and more enjoyment! I'll try to send those vibes to everyone here (and try to follow my own good advice for once! lol)
Goodnight everyone~
bee lovr :wave:
Willow-the Leep was fine-no problems, no complaints, I'm afraid she forgot to do some stuff while she was down there lol :) I feel fine-I just hope and pray that the results come back clear. I'm so scared it will be bad news.
As for everyone else-I hope you are doing good. Busy time of the year is coming up! I hope to enjoy this year-less stress and more enjoyment! I'll try to send those vibes to everyone here (and try to follow my own good advice for once! lol)
Goodnight everyone~
bee lovr :wave:
becky1954
11-10-2003, 07:30 AM
I just stumbled upon this thread. Nik-how did your doctors appt go? You have gone thru so much. How young are you that they don't like to do certain treatments on you-if you don't mind me asking.
You girls on Wellbutrin-you may be getting depressed from quitting smoking. I was on Wellbutrin once for severe depression. It didn't work but I was on it. Check with your docs though.
About 2 months ago I went to a new gyno for my annual pap and it came back normal so you would think its ok-right? But my doc said she didn't think she could check my uterus because I was fluffy(nice way of saying fat) so she had me have a vaginal ultrasound. They found out that my endometrial lining was thick and I haven't had a period in 2 years cause I am menopausal. So she scheduled an endometrial biopsy. Well she couldn't get all the way up there cause I had scars from never having a baby vaginally but what they found were a few abnormal cells in my cervix. So she scheduled a D&C and a Leep in the hospital(outpatient of course). The first day I just had a discharge. Then about the 3rd day I started what amounted to be a period. I went thru a pad every 2 hours. I freaked since I hadn't had a period for 2 years so I called and went in. She said everything looked fine and I could expect bleeding. To make a long story short I bled off and on for 2 weeks. I finally quit Friday. Nothing like you Nik so I don't know what you are going thru. I can't imagine still having periods.
Anyway I don't get my results till Wednesday.
I asked her how I could have a normal pap and still have abnormal cells and she said some women are shedders and some aren't. Does anyone else have any suggestions? Hers doesn't make sense to me. I'm sorry for the long post but I hope everyone is doing well.
You girls on Wellbutrin-you may be getting depressed from quitting smoking. I was on Wellbutrin once for severe depression. It didn't work but I was on it. Check with your docs though.
About 2 months ago I went to a new gyno for my annual pap and it came back normal so you would think its ok-right? But my doc said she didn't think she could check my uterus because I was fluffy(nice way of saying fat) so she had me have a vaginal ultrasound. They found out that my endometrial lining was thick and I haven't had a period in 2 years cause I am menopausal. So she scheduled an endometrial biopsy. Well she couldn't get all the way up there cause I had scars from never having a baby vaginally but what they found were a few abnormal cells in my cervix. So she scheduled a D&C and a Leep in the hospital(outpatient of course). The first day I just had a discharge. Then about the 3rd day I started what amounted to be a period. I went thru a pad every 2 hours. I freaked since I hadn't had a period for 2 years so I called and went in. She said everything looked fine and I could expect bleeding. To make a long story short I bled off and on for 2 weeks. I finally quit Friday. Nothing like you Nik so I don't know what you are going thru. I can't imagine still having periods.
Anyway I don't get my results till Wednesday.
I asked her how I could have a normal pap and still have abnormal cells and she said some women are shedders and some aren't. Does anyone else have any suggestions? Hers doesn't make sense to me. I'm sorry for the long post but I hope everyone is doing well.
PaNik5717
11-10-2003, 04:00 PM
Hello! It's so good to hear from you guys. Everyone here is so wonderulf and I have missed you during the board's transition. I'm having a littel trouble keeping up as the group size grows, so bear with me.
My visit with the hematologist was nice. He is a very thorough doctor, but he didn't find anything hematologically wrong with me. He ran a few more tests - tests that the phlebotomist had never heard of, so I hope the lab got them right - bu they are a long shot. Too bad I probably won't ever see him again because he had an attractive young nurse/assistant guy. The guy kept making excuses to talk to me and my family while we were waiting for my blood draw. Guess I still got it! Ha! The best thing of this visit was the CBC. It had been two weeks since my hemoglobin was at 6 and it was up to 9 that day! Wow. I had no idea anyone could make blood that fast, but I did. The high dose of Provera gave my body the chance to catch up a little, but now the bleeding is picking up a bit. Ugh.
Yesterday, I passed a few clots right before lunch. My mom looked at me and yelled for me to stop it already. She was totally joking so I jokingly made a sad face back at her and then it stuck! The tears started to flow and we both felt terrible. I would stop it if I could. My good Catholic mom would rather hear me tell her I am pregnant out of wedlock than to hear that I am bleeding more.
Becky: I am 26 years old and I have never been pregnant. That is why I can't have a hysterectomy. The hematologist was the first one to ask if I even wanted kids. No one else cares in case I get well, get married, and change my mind. But, getting well doesn't seem to be on the horizon without help. As for the transfusions, the hematologist said that I can get down to a 4 and still survive on my own. They don't really want to give me the blood sicne it will just come out the other end and there ar really high risks associated with transfusions. It makes sense, but it really feels bad when I am so miserable. I just wish they could find something wrong with me! Let us know your results when you get them.
Willow: Congrats on the follow-up colpo. That is such good news. Does that mean you got to have it done without any biopsies? Well, I guess you will make up for it on the 17th. Will your procedure be done under a local or general anesthesia? Are they planning on trying to take anything out or just look around? Oh, and I baked two more batches of cookies last week and an apple pie. This week, I am going to try bread pudding - never done it before - and banana cake. I'll have plenty to share.
In between, I am working on some bead projects to help my mom make some of her bead money back. We did one sale Saturday and we have four more coming up. I feel like such a burden that it is the least I can do.
Cookies for everyone! While others try herbs and aromatherapy, I am going to cure the world with cookies.
Hugs,
Nik
My visit with the hematologist was nice. He is a very thorough doctor, but he didn't find anything hematologically wrong with me. He ran a few more tests - tests that the phlebotomist had never heard of, so I hope the lab got them right - bu they are a long shot. Too bad I probably won't ever see him again because he had an attractive young nurse/assistant guy. The guy kept making excuses to talk to me and my family while we were waiting for my blood draw. Guess I still got it! Ha! The best thing of this visit was the CBC. It had been two weeks since my hemoglobin was at 6 and it was up to 9 that day! Wow. I had no idea anyone could make blood that fast, but I did. The high dose of Provera gave my body the chance to catch up a little, but now the bleeding is picking up a bit. Ugh.
Yesterday, I passed a few clots right before lunch. My mom looked at me and yelled for me to stop it already. She was totally joking so I jokingly made a sad face back at her and then it stuck! The tears started to flow and we both felt terrible. I would stop it if I could. My good Catholic mom would rather hear me tell her I am pregnant out of wedlock than to hear that I am bleeding more.
Becky: I am 26 years old and I have never been pregnant. That is why I can't have a hysterectomy. The hematologist was the first one to ask if I even wanted kids. No one else cares in case I get well, get married, and change my mind. But, getting well doesn't seem to be on the horizon without help. As for the transfusions, the hematologist said that I can get down to a 4 and still survive on my own. They don't really want to give me the blood sicne it will just come out the other end and there ar really high risks associated with transfusions. It makes sense, but it really feels bad when I am so miserable. I just wish they could find something wrong with me! Let us know your results when you get them.
Willow: Congrats on the follow-up colpo. That is such good news. Does that mean you got to have it done without any biopsies? Well, I guess you will make up for it on the 17th. Will your procedure be done under a local or general anesthesia? Are they planning on trying to take anything out or just look around? Oh, and I baked two more batches of cookies last week and an apple pie. This week, I am going to try bread pudding - never done it before - and banana cake. I'll have plenty to share.
In between, I am working on some bead projects to help my mom make some of her bead money back. We did one sale Saturday and we have four more coming up. I feel like such a burden that it is the least I can do.
Cookies for everyone! While others try herbs and aromatherapy, I am going to cure the world with cookies.
Hugs,
Nik
Lucky87531
11-11-2003, 01:26 AM
Hello Ladies!!! Well, as you know I had my Cone Biopsy on October 17th, and i was supposed to have a follow up appt with my doc last friday to discuss the results... but I just didnt feel like going. I didnt want to ruin my day you know? I am supposed to start the skin cancer acid treatment on my Vulva this Friday, that sounds fun now doesnt it? Look at the mess I got myself into by having sex with one guy. Severe dysplasia on my cervix, and severe dysplasia on my vuvla. What a wonderful thing this HPV stuff is.
Panik, I am sorry to hear about your health. I have been trying to keep up with whats going on, and i know that you are still bleeding. Isn't the assortment of people who gets these problems weird? Like... no, cereal killers and bad people cant be seriously effected by this, but people like us can. Makes sense doesnt it? I know thats a selfish way to look at it, but I just dont understand why some people have these problems, and others dont. Oh well, I guess there are a lot of things in life I will never understand.
My boyfriend says that I have been depressed lately. And, I probably have been. I admit to it, Im not happy. I am trying not ot let this control my life, but its hard. I have my days I guess... today is one of those days. I just want to kick this HPV's a$$,!! I am not afraid of the cervical stuff, it is the vulva stuff that scares me. I hope I can get rid of it!! Atleast for a few years. I am afraid it is spreading, I can tell it is there when im just sitting here. It's not painful, but its not right. Ok maybe I shouldnt have procrastinated going to the doctor! Ok enough rambling in your guy's posts!
Help all is going well for all of you!!! I know this sucks, and thanks for listening! I pray for all o fyou!
Annie
Panik, I am sorry to hear about your health. I have been trying to keep up with whats going on, and i know that you are still bleeding. Isn't the assortment of people who gets these problems weird? Like... no, cereal killers and bad people cant be seriously effected by this, but people like us can. Makes sense doesnt it? I know thats a selfish way to look at it, but I just dont understand why some people have these problems, and others dont. Oh well, I guess there are a lot of things in life I will never understand.
My boyfriend says that I have been depressed lately. And, I probably have been. I admit to it, Im not happy. I am trying not ot let this control my life, but its hard. I have my days I guess... today is one of those days. I just want to kick this HPV's a$$,!! I am not afraid of the cervical stuff, it is the vulva stuff that scares me. I hope I can get rid of it!! Atleast for a few years. I am afraid it is spreading, I can tell it is there when im just sitting here. It's not painful, but its not right. Ok maybe I shouldnt have procrastinated going to the doctor! Ok enough rambling in your guy's posts!
Help all is going well for all of you!!! I know this sucks, and thanks for listening! I pray for all o fyou!
Annie
becky1954
11-11-2003, 06:43 AM
It's hard not to be depressed sometimes. You do wonder why these things happen to you and not other people. I am not depressed but ever since the doc told me I had abnormal cells that seems to be all I think about and I don't even know my results yet. Can you get dysplasia any other way besides HPV? I haven't ever been w/any one other than my husband of 19 years and he has only been with one other woman-an ex wife years ago. It really scares me to hear yall talk. But maybe I will be one of the lucky ones. I have been trying really hard to keep my spirits up. And it is pretty easy to do after hearing some of your stories. I am praying for all of you and try to keep your spirits up. Keep us informed.
Lucky87531
11-11-2003, 12:45 PM
I wouldn't say that HPV is the only cause of dysplasia, but it is related to most cases involving dysplasia. It is good that you have only had sex with your husband, and he has only had sex with one other woman. My sister has only had sex with her husband, and he has only had sex with one other woman, but she managed to get HPV too. It is really weird how common it is. I am praying for you becky!!! I really dont want anyone else to have to go through this due to HPV. It's such a bummer and I am hoping that some type of vaccine will be made that is FDA approved!!! Ok sorry to cut this short but i have to go to micro economics. Fun stuff!!!
Annie
Annie
Reze
11-11-2003, 07:20 PM
I'm baaaaack! Gee whiz, I couldn't get on here to save my own life! My IP was banned for some still unknown reason.
Well, we are all moved in at the new house and what a house it is! Sweeet!
That's it for the good news....brace yourselves......I am getting a hysterectomy on 12/11!!!! A vaginal hysterectomy at that! Seems like good news right? Well, my insurance company is trying to reject the claim, those *******s! I will appeal it, but in the mean time I have to come up with $1600 for my doctor to do the surgery which she has recommended happen before the end of the year BECAUSE even though she is 90% sure the LEEP got everything...the dysplasia is/was in the mucous glands as well as deep into the cervical canal...with my smoking history, age, and fibroids we feel the hysterectomy is best. THEN she told me that I do NOT have cancer, but I am knocking on the door!!!! YIKES! And, since "recurrence" of dysplasia is lowest with hysterectomy (under 3%) we have to decided to skip all possible future tests, procedures, etc...and jump right to the end! For this I am most grateful! I sure didnt like the change in attitude from 90% sure we got it all to you should have a hysterectomy before the end of the year, but I think it is all about the insurance. I think that since my doctor knows theres a good chance I will be paying for everything she is trying to save me the expense of another LEEP, ECC, etc when a hysterectomy is likely anyway AND my preference.
I was doing really well on the smokes, even had a couple of smoke free days until my 19 year old son got himself arrested!!! ACK! He and some friends were throwing each other into the pool at his buddie's apartment complex and someone called the police due to the noise. Well, naturally my son had to have some illegal knife in his pocket, at least illegal in Texas, and off to jail he went. Nice, huh? Argggggh. So I have had a couple of smokes the last few days, but no more than 2 per day.
Despite it all, life is still pretty darn good, my spirits are good, I feel good, and am not worrying myself half to death. The Zoloft is surely helping with that. My sweet man and this nice house aint too bad on the nerves either if you know what I am saying!
So catch me up everyone....whats happening with y'all???
Love,
Reze
Well, we are all moved in at the new house and what a house it is! Sweeet!
That's it for the good news....brace yourselves......I am getting a hysterectomy on 12/11!!!! A vaginal hysterectomy at that! Seems like good news right? Well, my insurance company is trying to reject the claim, those *******s! I will appeal it, but in the mean time I have to come up with $1600 for my doctor to do the surgery which she has recommended happen before the end of the year BECAUSE even though she is 90% sure the LEEP got everything...the dysplasia is/was in the mucous glands as well as deep into the cervical canal...with my smoking history, age, and fibroids we feel the hysterectomy is best. THEN she told me that I do NOT have cancer, but I am knocking on the door!!!! YIKES! And, since "recurrence" of dysplasia is lowest with hysterectomy (under 3%) we have to decided to skip all possible future tests, procedures, etc...and jump right to the end! For this I am most grateful! I sure didnt like the change in attitude from 90% sure we got it all to you should have a hysterectomy before the end of the year, but I think it is all about the insurance. I think that since my doctor knows theres a good chance I will be paying for everything she is trying to save me the expense of another LEEP, ECC, etc when a hysterectomy is likely anyway AND my preference.
I was doing really well on the smokes, even had a couple of smoke free days until my 19 year old son got himself arrested!!! ACK! He and some friends were throwing each other into the pool at his buddie's apartment complex and someone called the police due to the noise. Well, naturally my son had to have some illegal knife in his pocket, at least illegal in Texas, and off to jail he went. Nice, huh? Argggggh. So I have had a couple of smokes the last few days, but no more than 2 per day.
Despite it all, life is still pretty darn good, my spirits are good, I feel good, and am not worrying myself half to death. The Zoloft is surely helping with that. My sweet man and this nice house aint too bad on the nerves either if you know what I am saying!
So catch me up everyone....whats happening with y'all???
Love,
Reze
Lucky87531
11-11-2003, 08:15 PM
Hey Reze, I am glad to hear that you are so cheery!! Boy, what I would give to have a 3% chance of my dysplasia coming back, but oh no, I will have to have a "more than likely chance" that my dysplasia will come back for the next 20 years of my life. I know that I am only 20 and wouldnt think of having a hystorectomy at this life, but more than ever now I know that I want to have children some day. I guess when the opportunity is slightly jeopardized, you realize how important it is. My sisters friend had cervical cancer and her dr told her if she wanted to have a baby, to do it now because she was going to have to have a hystorectomy within the next year. So yeah, she had a baby, and they gave her a hystorectomy at the same time. Talk about messing with hormones at one time. She was only 21 but her boyfriend and her tied the knot and had a baby. I hope that I wont be put in a situation like that. Although, like i said before, 3% chance of it coming back would sure be nice, but its not worth rushing a family, i know. Wow, why am i rambling? Anyway, Reze, it is really good that you are doing so well with cutting down on the smokes. My mom has smoked since she was 16 and would die if she had to quit. She gets irritated when we go shopping because she cant smoke. So I am very impressed that you are doing so well. Ok, well I just wanted to give you some encouragement! Sorry to hear about your son!!! I guess he was at teh wrong place at the wrong time is all. But good luck and I hope your insurance shapes up and pays fo ryour surgery! Best of luck!
Annie
Annie
becky1954
11-11-2003, 08:34 PM
Reze-you have such a good outlook. Sorry to hear about your troubles though. At least you won't have to go thru all that testing anymore and chances are your dysplasia won't come back. I'm from Elgin about 25 miles from Austin if you know where that is. It's nice to talk to someone that lives so close. Take care and I will be praying for you.
Reze
11-12-2003, 03:48 PM
Thank you so much y'all! I am very excited and just a touch nervous. I have had surgery before and it went very well, but you do tend to be a touch sore afterwards from the incisions. This surgery will have just one incision, vaginal, so I am not sure what to expect. The doc will probably fill me in though.
Do I know Elgin??? It only has the best sausage in the WORLD!!! Nice to know you are so close by Becky. Do you come to Austin to see your doctor or are you fortunate enough to have a good one out there in the country? If ever you do come to Austin we should get together!
My love and prayers to all! -- Reze
Do I know Elgin??? It only has the best sausage in the WORLD!!! Nice to know you are so close by Becky. Do you come to Austin to see your doctor or are you fortunate enough to have a good one out there in the country? If ever you do come to Austin we should get together!
My love and prayers to all! -- Reze
Willow Star
11-12-2003, 06:44 PM
Hey you crazy broads...this is a drive by posting.....DUCK!!!
Haha! Don't have a lot of time right now but just wanted to say hi and I will jump on soon...got lots of questions and lots of catching up to do! Hope everybody is staying positive and I've been thinking about you all a lot!!
(((((HUGS)))))
Willow :D
Haha! Don't have a lot of time right now but just wanted to say hi and I will jump on soon...got lots of questions and lots of catching up to do! Hope everybody is staying positive and I've been thinking about you all a lot!!
(((((HUGS)))))
Willow :D
becky1954
11-12-2003, 07:25 PM
Hi Ladies-
I went to the doctor today and got my results. They came back normal. :bouncing: I can't believe it. I am so happy. I don't know what they think they saw but at least they were wrong.
Reze-I work in Austin(have for 25 years) so all my doctors are in Austin. Today I made it a day of doctors appointments. I had been sick all week. They told me at work today I was trying to cough a lung out. Turns out I have a sinus infection and bronchitis. And I have to work overtime Saturday.
Nik-what's going on with you?
I have enjoyed all of our conversations. Although they didn't find anything I still plan to check in and keep up with all of you. I am praying for all of you. :angel:
I went to the doctor today and got my results. They came back normal. :bouncing: I can't believe it. I am so happy. I don't know what they think they saw but at least they were wrong.
Reze-I work in Austin(have for 25 years) so all my doctors are in Austin. Today I made it a day of doctors appointments. I had been sick all week. They told me at work today I was trying to cough a lung out. Turns out I have a sinus infection and bronchitis. And I have to work overtime Saturday.
Nik-what's going on with you?
I have enjoyed all of our conversations. Although they didn't find anything I still plan to check in and keep up with all of you. I am praying for all of you. :angel:
PaNik5717
11-12-2003, 07:44 PM
Becky!
That is the best news. Well, not the infections and the overtime. How did you end up with that stuff in Austin? I went to Baylor, by the way. But, I didn't get out a whole lot. That place was not the place for me so I studied hard and got out fast.
Any idea why your endometrium was thickened? How about the bleeding? Has it stopped. Mine hasn't. It is starting to get heavier. Next week - based on my old schedule that I traced back to April - I would be on my period. And, tomorrow I am supposed to drop back to one hormone pill a day. So, I guess I can expect to keep bleeding for at least the next two weeks. Yuck!
This morning my mom came in to put lotion on my back after I showered. (She makes me shower when she is here because she worries that I will faint.) Anyway, she had just started her car and her hands were COLD. I flinched when she touched me and I ended up dripping about ten drops of blood on the bath mat. I am getting used to it, but it is still sort of embarassing and depressing.
On Monday, I asked my regular doc if I could be perimenopausal. She said that's an interesting question. I should call my gyn and tell her that I am still bleeding, but she is out of ideas and she is two hours away. Not worth the drive if she can't help. Oh, and I got turned down by another doc today - too young for an ablation.
I saw a story last night about a little boy with HIV who could nto find an adoptive family. I would love to be there for a kid like that one day. I would have to be a lot more stable which would mean that I would have to stop bleeding and get a job....
Nice to hear from everyone again!
Nik
That is the best news. Well, not the infections and the overtime. How did you end up with that stuff in Austin? I went to Baylor, by the way. But, I didn't get out a whole lot. That place was not the place for me so I studied hard and got out fast.
Any idea why your endometrium was thickened? How about the bleeding? Has it stopped. Mine hasn't. It is starting to get heavier. Next week - based on my old schedule that I traced back to April - I would be on my period. And, tomorrow I am supposed to drop back to one hormone pill a day. So, I guess I can expect to keep bleeding for at least the next two weeks. Yuck!
This morning my mom came in to put lotion on my back after I showered. (She makes me shower when she is here because she worries that I will faint.) Anyway, she had just started her car and her hands were COLD. I flinched when she touched me and I ended up dripping about ten drops of blood on the bath mat. I am getting used to it, but it is still sort of embarassing and depressing.
On Monday, I asked my regular doc if I could be perimenopausal. She said that's an interesting question. I should call my gyn and tell her that I am still bleeding, but she is out of ideas and she is two hours away. Not worth the drive if she can't help. Oh, and I got turned down by another doc today - too young for an ablation.
I saw a story last night about a little boy with HIV who could nto find an adoptive family. I would love to be there for a kid like that one day. I would have to be a lot more stable which would mean that I would have to stop bleeding and get a job....
Nice to hear from everyone again!
Nik
becky1954
11-12-2003, 08:03 PM
Nik-good to hear from you again. I asked the doc about the thickened lining and she said there is no actual ruler to go by but when you see a thick one in a menopausal woman you have to check it out. She means an old one that has hot flashes. I stopped bleeding last Friday finally and don't even have a discharge anymore.
I wish you could get straightened out. I will continue to pray for you. :angel:
Austin is the allergy capital of the world and everyone in my office is hacking and sneezing. Another girl that sits close to me has a bad cough and it seems every time I cough she coughs or the other way around.
Good night!
Hugs to all
I wish you could get straightened out. I will continue to pray for you. :angel:
Austin is the allergy capital of the world and everyone in my office is hacking and sneezing. Another girl that sits close to me has a bad cough and it seems every time I cough she coughs or the other way around.
Good night!
Hugs to all
Lucky87531
11-12-2003, 08:13 PM
Becky!!! YAhoo for you!!! I find out my results of my cone biopsy on Friday! Yikes. Nik- sorry to hear that you are still bleeding. I hate it when there is something going on with your body and you and the docs have no idea. Thats how it was with my heart before i knew i had a heart condition. Fainting, anxiety, hair loss, chest pains, weird and scary side effects. It's ok though, I knew you will pull through. Well, i just wanted to say a few words. I am off to Yoga and then onto studying! Good luck yall!
Annie
Annie
bumble bee lovr
11-13-2003, 01:18 AM
hey ladies! I was just checking in...im glad to hear that everyone is doing good-sounds like lots of good test results-i hope they go all the way around-i find out friday or monday. Panik-I'm still praying for you sweetie-you'll kick this thing in the butt-i know it! As for everyone else-congrats on the good results, have a safe and happy rest of the week (it's hump day!) :bouncing: talk to you soon!
bee lovr
bee lovr
RMcRae
11-13-2003, 10:55 AM
Hi guys!
Sorry I haven't been on in awhile, I've been out of work.
Well I haven't quit smoking, but I did quit taking the Welbutrin. I had an adverse reaction to it and was damn close to a nervous break down. Still on an emotional rollercoaster, but not nearly as bad. I figure that I will get my emotions back on track, then try another way to kick the smokes. I just hope I can do it before it brings back the dysplasia.
Becky- That's so great!!!!! I'm so excited that you got great test results back!
Bee- I'll be thinking of you on Friday, and i'm sure that you'll get the great results too.
Nik- Sweetie I'm so sorry you're still bleeding. Everything will work out. I heard a really cool quote yesterday and thought of you. It was, "Everything works out in the end, if it hasn't worked out, it's not the end". Just keep thinking positive, and you're still in my thoughts!!!
Willow- Girlie!!!!! You almost struck me down with your drive by posting!!! ;) I had to drop to the ground! Can't wait to hear from you again!
Reze-Keep it up as far as the smoking goes!!!! You're doing great!!!! Happy to hear that you're enjoying the new pad!!!!
Well, gots to go! Love you all and I'll talke to you later!!!!
Beckie :jester:
Sorry I haven't been on in awhile, I've been out of work.
Well I haven't quit smoking, but I did quit taking the Welbutrin. I had an adverse reaction to it and was damn close to a nervous break down. Still on an emotional rollercoaster, but not nearly as bad. I figure that I will get my emotions back on track, then try another way to kick the smokes. I just hope I can do it before it brings back the dysplasia.
Becky- That's so great!!!!! I'm so excited that you got great test results back!
Bee- I'll be thinking of you on Friday, and i'm sure that you'll get the great results too.
Nik- Sweetie I'm so sorry you're still bleeding. Everything will work out. I heard a really cool quote yesterday and thought of you. It was, "Everything works out in the end, if it hasn't worked out, it's not the end". Just keep thinking positive, and you're still in my thoughts!!!
Willow- Girlie!!!!! You almost struck me down with your drive by posting!!! ;) I had to drop to the ground! Can't wait to hear from you again!
Reze-Keep it up as far as the smoking goes!!!! You're doing great!!!! Happy to hear that you're enjoying the new pad!!!!
Well, gots to go! Love you all and I'll talke to you later!!!!
Beckie :jester:
Reze
11-13-2003, 04:29 PM
Hot Dang! Sounds like all is going pretty well for everyone!
Becky, big congrats Sweetie! *whew*.....right? Have you ever heard of Dr. Yohe? That's my gyn.
Panik, girl girl girl...I wish I had some news for you, but my doc wouldn't comment on your condition without a chart or having examined you. Sorry, I really thought she'd have some good insight. Too young for ablation??? So what are you supposed to do...become the worlds largest blood donor instead? Here's an idea...invite the doctors who aren't helping you as you wish over for tea! HAH! That'll teach 'em!
Willow, HAH! Drive by posting. Hee hee. Puts me in mind of the drive by "decorating" my friend David and I did to our friend Karen! *snark* Was great fun!
Ok, so you all will have to forgive me....my mind isn't what it used to be and I have all ready ditzed out the other posts I have read! Isn't that crazy? Let me reread them and I'll be right back. *blush*
Reze
Becky, big congrats Sweetie! *whew*.....right? Have you ever heard of Dr. Yohe? That's my gyn.
Panik, girl girl girl...I wish I had some news for you, but my doc wouldn't comment on your condition without a chart or having examined you. Sorry, I really thought she'd have some good insight. Too young for ablation??? So what are you supposed to do...become the worlds largest blood donor instead? Here's an idea...invite the doctors who aren't helping you as you wish over for tea! HAH! That'll teach 'em!
Willow, HAH! Drive by posting. Hee hee. Puts me in mind of the drive by "decorating" my friend David and I did to our friend Karen! *snark* Was great fun!
Ok, so you all will have to forgive me....my mind isn't what it used to be and I have all ready ditzed out the other posts I have read! Isn't that crazy? Let me reread them and I'll be right back. *blush*
Reze
Reze
11-13-2003, 04:58 PM
Okay, with the aid of a note pad I think I can respond the way I'd like to everyone now. Pitiful, isn't it? ....that I need a note pad? Oh well, getting older isn't for whimps as they say! :-)
Lucky, being that today is Thursday you must be on pins and needles waiting for your results tomorrow, eh? I'll say a prayer for you Honey!
BeeLvr, How are you holding up girl? I know that you've been having some stress and confusion over everything....you are not alone there...I was so panicked in the beginning I actually requested Xanax...and got it! The shame of it is that no-one should have to be overwhelmed by this thing..it's just that they throw the cancer word at us and who hears anything else after that? That one word is so powerful and life changing, eh? If only the internet would get organized, and the doctors would take the time to better define things. Each patient is an individual I realize, but a basic roadmap and definitions would go a long way in easing the confusion so commonly experienced in this arena. Anyhooo, the thing that has helped most of us the best is the knowledge that dysplasia is not cancer AND that it takes years of leaving things unchecked for dysplasia to ever become cancer. Now, I did read that one lady's post who had normal PAPs and then suddenly had CIS...how bizarre, how rare, and how truly unfortunate for her. My heart goes out to her, sucks to be the one in a million no doubt. So, Bee...your results should be in tomorrow...you must be very anxious for good news and I will ofcourse say a prayer for you! Hang tough, all will be well...it is just a matter of time.
RM, my old friend! Sorry too hear about the Wellbutrin. I took it a while back and hated it! I couldn't sleep at all, I had the worst insomnia from that stuff....ICK! Is better to taper off I think. The anxiety and cravings are far less in my experience. If you are like me you will put on a few pounds, 6 in my case, but that is better than not quitting or having the side effects of the Wellbutrin. I am down to a puff here and there, just enough to take the edge off the cravings. Some days are better than others, I do slip and end up having enough to equal a whole cigarette sometimes...on really bad days enough to equal 2....but on good days, not enough to even equal a half of a smoke...so soon I should be able to put them down for good! Atleast that is the plan. :-)
One month to go ladies! Please pray that my surgery goes well, I recooperate quickly (no complications), and that this confounded dysplasia is finally gone once and for all! I will pray for you all as well!
All my Love,
Reze
Lucky, being that today is Thursday you must be on pins and needles waiting for your results tomorrow, eh? I'll say a prayer for you Honey!
BeeLvr, How are you holding up girl? I know that you've been having some stress and confusion over everything....you are not alone there...I was so panicked in the beginning I actually requested Xanax...and got it! The shame of it is that no-one should have to be overwhelmed by this thing..it's just that they throw the cancer word at us and who hears anything else after that? That one word is so powerful and life changing, eh? If only the internet would get organized, and the doctors would take the time to better define things. Each patient is an individual I realize, but a basic roadmap and definitions would go a long way in easing the confusion so commonly experienced in this arena. Anyhooo, the thing that has helped most of us the best is the knowledge that dysplasia is not cancer AND that it takes years of leaving things unchecked for dysplasia to ever become cancer. Now, I did read that one lady's post who had normal PAPs and then suddenly had CIS...how bizarre, how rare, and how truly unfortunate for her. My heart goes out to her, sucks to be the one in a million no doubt. So, Bee...your results should be in tomorrow...you must be very anxious for good news and I will ofcourse say a prayer for you! Hang tough, all will be well...it is just a matter of time.
RM, my old friend! Sorry too hear about the Wellbutrin. I took it a while back and hated it! I couldn't sleep at all, I had the worst insomnia from that stuff....ICK! Is better to taper off I think. The anxiety and cravings are far less in my experience. If you are like me you will put on a few pounds, 6 in my case, but that is better than not quitting or having the side effects of the Wellbutrin. I am down to a puff here and there, just enough to take the edge off the cravings. Some days are better than others, I do slip and end up having enough to equal a whole cigarette sometimes...on really bad days enough to equal 2....but on good days, not enough to even equal a half of a smoke...so soon I should be able to put them down for good! Atleast that is the plan. :-)
One month to go ladies! Please pray that my surgery goes well, I recooperate quickly (no complications), and that this confounded dysplasia is finally gone once and for all! I will pray for you all as well!
All my Love,
Reze
PaNik5717
11-13-2003, 06:23 PM
Reze,
Thanks so much for trying. Maybe I will send her my chart and asked to be added to the surgical rotation that day. We can share a hospital room with a cabana boy in between us with a lap top so he can post our progress reports!
I would settle for an ablation at this point.
Does anyone think I am wrong for not wanting to take the really high doses of hormones? I know they can stop the bleeding, but then the risks and complications are magnified. I don't want to end up with cancer or heart disease or osteoporosis or blood clots or any of those terrible things.
I know, this topic is getting old. Maybe talk of my bleeding should be banned for a week. It's so depressing and the rest of you are making such good progress. I am so proud of everyone trying to quit smoking. Even with minor setbacks, just cutting back is doing wonders. Less than half a cigarette a day is a miracle!!!
Nik
Thanks so much for trying. Maybe I will send her my chart and asked to be added to the surgical rotation that day. We can share a hospital room with a cabana boy in between us with a lap top so he can post our progress reports!
I would settle for an ablation at this point.
Does anyone think I am wrong for not wanting to take the really high doses of hormones? I know they can stop the bleeding, but then the risks and complications are magnified. I don't want to end up with cancer or heart disease or osteoporosis or blood clots or any of those terrible things.
I know, this topic is getting old. Maybe talk of my bleeding should be banned for a week. It's so depressing and the rest of you are making such good progress. I am so proud of everyone trying to quit smoking. Even with minor setbacks, just cutting back is doing wonders. Less than half a cigarette a day is a miracle!!!
Nik
becky1954
11-13-2003, 09:03 PM
Hi Ladies-
How's everyone doing? I know we have a couple of test results coming in tomorrow so I will keep you in my prayers.
Reze-I don't know your gyn. What hospital are you having your surgery in? Also what idiot insurance doesn't want to pay for it? My gyn is with Austin Regional Clinic. When I got there yesterday she was off delivering a baby. Babies just have no timing.
Nik-Hang in there. I know there is a solution out there somewhere. I wouldn't go on the high doses of hormones either. When I first went to a gyn about being without periods she gave me HRT. Well that is when that new study came out about all the bad things that can happen now. So I stayed on them for 6 months and took myself off. My mother had breast cancer and I don't want to risk it. This new gyn said I didn't need HRT but gave me something for my bones but it gave me hot flashes and I had completely gotten rid of them. So then she gave me a pill to counteract that pill. I said no thanks.
Gotta go-everybody hang in there! :angel:
Love,
Becky :wave:
How's everyone doing? I know we have a couple of test results coming in tomorrow so I will keep you in my prayers.
Reze-I don't know your gyn. What hospital are you having your surgery in? Also what idiot insurance doesn't want to pay for it? My gyn is with Austin Regional Clinic. When I got there yesterday she was off delivering a baby. Babies just have no timing.
Nik-Hang in there. I know there is a solution out there somewhere. I wouldn't go on the high doses of hormones either. When I first went to a gyn about being without periods she gave me HRT. Well that is when that new study came out about all the bad things that can happen now. So I stayed on them for 6 months and took myself off. My mother had breast cancer and I don't want to risk it. This new gyn said I didn't need HRT but gave me something for my bones but it gave me hot flashes and I had completely gotten rid of them. So then she gave me a pill to counteract that pill. I said no thanks.
Gotta go-everybody hang in there! :angel:
Love,
Becky :wave:
liz109
11-17-2003, 03:24 AM
Hey Ladies!
I've been following this thread for over a month now, but haven't really wanted to post alot. I was in denial of even having dysplasia for the first couple of weeks. I found out it wasn't cancer, so I wasn't worried at all.
Yes, I am the SMALL 1/4 of a millionth percent that actually has the doctors stumped. I had my first abnormal pap about 2 months ago, and will undergo a radical hysterectomy by next month. So, with that being said, I'm the statistic they write about in the book, so that means it doesn't have to be you :) Yeah, I'll take all the punches for you ladies!!! You all seem like a great group.
I'm no stranger to message boards. I've been a member of a parenting/women's support group message board for over a year and a half now and know how you can REALLY make friends and get awesome support. However, none of the ladies there have been through this, and really don't understand. They are HIGHLY supportive though!
I'm hoping that here on healthboards, I can gather information, share my story, comfort those who are going through something similar, and make some friends--If you ladies don't mind, of course :D
I've been following this thread for over a month now, but haven't really wanted to post alot. I was in denial of even having dysplasia for the first couple of weeks. I found out it wasn't cancer, so I wasn't worried at all.
Yes, I am the SMALL 1/4 of a millionth percent that actually has the doctors stumped. I had my first abnormal pap about 2 months ago, and will undergo a radical hysterectomy by next month. So, with that being said, I'm the statistic they write about in the book, so that means it doesn't have to be you :) Yeah, I'll take all the punches for you ladies!!! You all seem like a great group.
I'm no stranger to message boards. I've been a member of a parenting/women's support group message board for over a year and a half now and know how you can REALLY make friends and get awesome support. However, none of the ladies there have been through this, and really don't understand. They are HIGHLY supportive though!
I'm hoping that here on healthboards, I can gather information, share my story, comfort those who are going through something similar, and make some friends--If you ladies don't mind, of course :D
Reze
11-17-2003, 03:28 AM
Testing...as per usual this board is saying that my IP has been banned...let's see if it's true! --Reze
Reze
11-17-2003, 03:41 AM
How crazy is that? My message posted! Oh well, as long as I can still chat with my buddies all is well.
Becky, I'll be going to Round Rock Hospital. I like that hospital, it is where I had my gall bladder removed and they were GREAT!
Liz, welcome aboard! A radical hysterectomy, eh? I know that there are several types and I am having one shortly myself so you are not alone. They will be taking my uterus and cervix, but leaving the ovaries....atleast that's the plan. Mine is being done to not only prevent the recurrance of dysplasia and it's advancement, but to also alleviate the pain and troubles associated with fibroids and possible endometriosis. Other than the recovery time, I am actually looking forward to it and hoping that pathology says the LEEP got all the dysplasia, or at the very least that it didn't get too far into the glands. My doc says that I do not have cancer, but that I am knocking on the door....YIKES! So, I am all for the hysterectomy. Plus, I am almost 40 years old and very tired of painful periods every month for the last 10 years and I have no desire for anymore children at this point in life. Please share your story with me (us), I was offline for awhile and don't know your history as well as I would like to......if you don't mind, don't re-live anything if it causes you more harm than good.
Wassup with the results ladies???
Luff,
Reze
Becky, I'll be going to Round Rock Hospital. I like that hospital, it is where I had my gall bladder removed and they were GREAT!
Liz, welcome aboard! A radical hysterectomy, eh? I know that there are several types and I am having one shortly myself so you are not alone. They will be taking my uterus and cervix, but leaving the ovaries....atleast that's the plan. Mine is being done to not only prevent the recurrance of dysplasia and it's advancement, but to also alleviate the pain and troubles associated with fibroids and possible endometriosis. Other than the recovery time, I am actually looking forward to it and hoping that pathology says the LEEP got all the dysplasia, or at the very least that it didn't get too far into the glands. My doc says that I do not have cancer, but that I am knocking on the door....YIKES! So, I am all for the hysterectomy. Plus, I am almost 40 years old and very tired of painful periods every month for the last 10 years and I have no desire for anymore children at this point in life. Please share your story with me (us), I was offline for awhile and don't know your history as well as I would like to......if you don't mind, don't re-live anything if it causes you more harm than good.
Wassup with the results ladies???
Luff,
Reze
becky1954
11-17-2003, 06:36 AM
I was wondering what happened to everybody
Welcome Liz-sorry to hear about your troubles. I was one of the lucky ones but I am here for support for everybody. I will keep you in my prayers. :angel: Please keep us updated.
Do we have any results in yet ladies? Let us know.
Lots of love
Welcome Liz-sorry to hear about your troubles. I was one of the lucky ones but I am here for support for everybody. I will keep you in my prayers. :angel: Please keep us updated.
Do we have any results in yet ladies? Let us know.
Lots of love
Lucky87531
11-17-2003, 10:26 PM
Here is a quick post, id ont have much time. Well, if anyone gives a hoot.... my appointment for Friday was rescheduled. Thats only the 4th time my doc has done that to me. So i have an appt on Wenesday to find out my cone biopsy results. Hoping all goes well. And I think i already mentioned i will start a skin cancer acid burning treatment on my vulva. Why do i have to be like one of the 2% of the 30% of women who have dysplasia to have it on their cervix and their actual vagina!!! As if that area of my body hasnt been violated, theyre going to burn it off with acid!!! Ugh... sorry if you are sensing hostility and bitterness. Somethings just dont add up! Oh well. Liz, i hope you are doing well!!! Your posts always crack me up!! Panik, hope the bleeding is subsiding. As for everyone else, good luck with recovery and results. Something good is bound to happen!!!
Annie
Annie
PaNik5717
11-17-2003, 10:45 PM
Hi Ladies,
I haven't read all of the posts from this weekend, but I wanted to check in and share the news. I went to the doc today and told her I want my life back. It was a very tough conversation, but she finally consented to a hysterectomy. She has tried everything else, but she wanted me to have the provera shot even though the oral provera didn't work. Instead, I am going on Lupron for three months and then she will take it all out. *I get a playpen, too!*
I didn't get the Lupron today. I have an appointment with my regular doc next week and I just wanted one last chance at something else and soem reassurance from another doc. Then, I will get the shot and start getting ready for the surgery. It gives me three months to talk myself out of it, but I don't think that will happen.
I didn't think she would consent, but she did. Now I really have to face it. I may or may not keep my cervix and I will keep my ovaries, unless she sees endo.
I guess that's it. I'm pretty tired from the trip, but I will catch up on all of your news in the next few days.
Nik
I haven't read all of the posts from this weekend, but I wanted to check in and share the news. I went to the doc today and told her I want my life back. It was a very tough conversation, but she finally consented to a hysterectomy. She has tried everything else, but she wanted me to have the provera shot even though the oral provera didn't work. Instead, I am going on Lupron for three months and then she will take it all out. *I get a playpen, too!*
I didn't get the Lupron today. I have an appointment with my regular doc next week and I just wanted one last chance at something else and soem reassurance from another doc. Then, I will get the shot and start getting ready for the surgery. It gives me three months to talk myself out of it, but I don't think that will happen.
I didn't think she would consent, but she did. Now I really have to face it. I may or may not keep my cervix and I will keep my ovaries, unless she sees endo.
I guess that's it. I'm pretty tired from the trip, but I will catch up on all of your news in the next few days.
Nik
liz109
11-18-2003, 12:11 AM
I'm glad someone finds humor in my posts :jester:
Congrats on getting a playpen also Panik!!!
Congrats on getting a playpen also Panik!!!
becky1954
11-18-2003, 06:54 AM
Congrats Nik-
I'm happy for you if that's what you want. But with all your problems that is what I would be wanting too. Are you still bleeding?
Liz-How are you doing?
Reze-you still hanging in there?
Seems like everyone is getting a playpen but believe me I am not jealous. I like mine just like it is unless it gives me trouble.
Everyone keep us informed.
I'm happy for you if that's what you want. But with all your problems that is what I would be wanting too. Are you still bleeding?
Liz-How are you doing?
Reze-you still hanging in there?
Seems like everyone is getting a playpen but believe me I am not jealous. I like mine just like it is unless it gives me trouble.
Everyone keep us informed.
Willow Star
11-24-2003, 08:35 PM
Hi Everyone,
Sorry I haven't been around. I didn't want you to think I had forgotten all of you!! I just wanted to let you know that I have been with my father in law at the hospital. He was battling lung cancer and passed away Saturday. I loved that man like my own father and I'm heartbroken! Needless to say it's been an emotional rollercoaster on top of my own health problems. I have been thinking about all of you and will pop on some time next week once things calm down a bit. I've missed all of you! Hope everyone is doing well!
XOXO
Willow
Sorry I haven't been around. I didn't want you to think I had forgotten all of you!! I just wanted to let you know that I have been with my father in law at the hospital. He was battling lung cancer and passed away Saturday. I loved that man like my own father and I'm heartbroken! Needless to say it's been an emotional rollercoaster on top of my own health problems. I have been thinking about all of you and will pop on some time next week once things calm down a bit. I've missed all of you! Hope everyone is doing well!
XOXO
Willow
RMcRae
11-25-2003, 11:04 AM
Oh Willow.
I'm so sorry to hear about your father-in-law. I know there's nothing I can really do from here, but I am thinking about you and sending you a great big hug!!!!!
Beckie
I'm so sorry to hear about your father-in-law. I know there's nothing I can really do from here, but I am thinking about you and sending you a great big hug!!!!!
Beckie
jaynie
11-27-2003, 09:56 PM
I see the number changing for our other string, but cannot read/see any of the new posts?
Is everybody still here? Everybody ok? Did y'all run off to Zanzibar without me????
Reze
Hoping to reach Panik, as I just joined and read the posts,,,,,
Have you contacted anyone who knows homeopathy?
You can usually get the name of someone who practices it, and they could suggest something for the excess bleeding..... just a thought.
Is everybody still here? Everybody ok? Did y'all run off to Zanzibar without me????
Reze
Hoping to reach Panik, as I just joined and read the posts,,,,,
Have you contacted anyone who knows homeopathy?
You can usually get the name of someone who practices it, and they could suggest something for the excess bleeding..... just a thought.
PaNik5717
11-27-2003, 10:22 PM
Hi Jayne and welcome,
Thanks so much for the advice. I do appreciate all I can get. I live in a small town in a state where people still cook with lard every day. Not a real good candidate as a home for homeopaths or naturopaths. I might be able to find a medicine man, but one was recently convicted of ****** his pregnant relative during a healing ceremony. Scary stuff!
I had thought about looking into acupuncture since there is an acupuncturist in town, but I wanted to have a diagnosis first. Since I have the symptom of bleeding with no apparent cause, I don't think it would be appropriate to treat the symptom. I believe that will only mask things without really finding the source of the problem.
And, my last excuse, I think the surgery will be cheaper and will also be appropriate since my doc and I are suspicious that I may have adeno. Unfortunately, acupuncture is expensive and this illness has left me unemployed since May. I haven't looked into it that much because of the financial burden of it. Maybe I should, but trying anything else right now will delay the surgery. If I go off of the Lupron to try the next thing, I will have to go back on it for three months again before I can have the surgery. I am pretty much convinced that this is what I want because I know it will simplify my life in so many ways and it is a definitive cure.
I am more than willing to learn more from you, though, if you still care to share.
Happy thanksgiving to everyone! How are the non-smokers doing? I hope Liz is well and I can't wait to hear from Reze again. I cherish everyone here.
Nik
Thanks so much for the advice. I do appreciate all I can get. I live in a small town in a state where people still cook with lard every day. Not a real good candidate as a home for homeopaths or naturopaths. I might be able to find a medicine man, but one was recently convicted of ****** his pregnant relative during a healing ceremony. Scary stuff!
I had thought about looking into acupuncture since there is an acupuncturist in town, but I wanted to have a diagnosis first. Since I have the symptom of bleeding with no apparent cause, I don't think it would be appropriate to treat the symptom. I believe that will only mask things without really finding the source of the problem.
And, my last excuse, I think the surgery will be cheaper and will also be appropriate since my doc and I are suspicious that I may have adeno. Unfortunately, acupuncture is expensive and this illness has left me unemployed since May. I haven't looked into it that much because of the financial burden of it. Maybe I should, but trying anything else right now will delay the surgery. If I go off of the Lupron to try the next thing, I will have to go back on it for three months again before I can have the surgery. I am pretty much convinced that this is what I want because I know it will simplify my life in so many ways and it is a definitive cure.
I am more than willing to learn more from you, though, if you still care to share.
Happy thanksgiving to everyone! How are the non-smokers doing? I hope Liz is well and I can't wait to hear from Reze again. I cherish everyone here.
Nik
kaesle
11-30-2003, 02:09 AM
Seven days and three hours completely smoke free for me!!! :) Woohoo.. I wasn't sure if I would make it this whole week since I had to open on friday and face the after thanksgiving day shoppers! I work in retail and it was just crazy busy and stressful, but I got through.
becky1954
11-30-2003, 08:56 AM
Congragulations on not smoking!I'm sure it was hard with all those shoppers on Friday. I wish you continued good luck!
liz109
12-01-2003, 03:01 AM
I haven't smoked since a little after 8 Monday night. HOWEVER, I did slip and have half a one Friday night. I though it tasted nasty. I'm trying REALLY HARD this time, and just know I can do it.
I'm healing alright. Getting around a little better, but still having to take pain pills. I haven't been able to have a BM (I know, TMI!), and that is causing alot of the pain.
How's everyone else?
I'm healing alright. Getting around a little better, but still having to take pain pills. I haven't been able to have a BM (I know, TMI!), and that is causing alot of the pain.
How's everyone else?
wwjdljs
12-01-2003, 02:22 PM
Hi ladies, I'm a newbie. I have tried to read most of your postings to see if anyone has mentioned the probable cause of all of your struggles. Sadly, no one has. Most physicans don't mention it because it is natural and if you use it, they may not see you in their office again. The pharmaceutical companies can't patent it so they don't mention it either. It is truely a crime that we suffer at the hands of well meaning, uninformed or greedy doctors. Has anyone heard of the hormone progesterone? Not progestin, that's different and will not improve anything. Most women in industrialized nations are estrogen dominant. Meaning, our bodies are producing too much unopposed estrogen. This causes, irregular periods, bloating, weight gain, headaches, insomnia, mood swings, endometriosis, cervical cancer, breast cancer(which, by the way, is advanced by smoking. This is another good reason to keep up the good fight to quit.) Please, search the internet for a good website that shows you the benefits of natural progesterone and the dibilitating effects of unopposed estrogen. Please check into this before any type of surgery. It is a very inexpensive and pain-free, side effect-free, body-loving way to go. My life is back and I can leave my house and join the real world again!!!! THANK YOU, JESUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Did I mention that I can function again?!!!!! As a normal human!!!!!!!! And I can afford it!!!! I don't have any post-op pain and bills!!!
A friend told me about it and I followed up with my own research. My husband and I were shocked that something so simple and affordable could have such a physical impact on our lives. I am telling every woman I know and love. Bcuz every woman will benefit from it. My husband is telling everyone(men & women)!! He uses it, too! It's natural for men to produce too much estrogen as they age. Our fat cells produce it. So, the more weight we gain, the more estrogen our bodies are producing. This is why you see many men with breasts. Some of the benefits of using transdermal natural progestrone are, weight-loss in the hips and lower abdomen, improved sexual libido, restful sleep, energy, diminishes PMS (in some women it gets rid of PMS symptoms all together), clears acne, shrinks endometriosis and fibroid cysts in the uterus, ovaries and breasts and calms our moods. I do not sell anything, I just want every woman to come back to life as I have. I get angry when I think of how much time and energy has been wasted from so many women's lives. I hope I have sparked some interest in this necessary part of our bodies that has been lacking and neglected for too long.
A friend told me about it and I followed up with my own research. My husband and I were shocked that something so simple and affordable could have such a physical impact on our lives. I am telling every woman I know and love. Bcuz every woman will benefit from it. My husband is telling everyone(men & women)!! He uses it, too! It's natural for men to produce too much estrogen as they age. Our fat cells produce it. So, the more weight we gain, the more estrogen our bodies are producing. This is why you see many men with breasts. Some of the benefits of using transdermal natural progestrone are, weight-loss in the hips and lower abdomen, improved sexual libido, restful sleep, energy, diminishes PMS (in some women it gets rid of PMS symptoms all together), clears acne, shrinks endometriosis and fibroid cysts in the uterus, ovaries and breasts and calms our moods. I do not sell anything, I just want every woman to come back to life as I have. I get angry when I think of how much time and energy has been wasted from so many women's lives. I hope I have sparked some interest in this necessary part of our bodies that has been lacking and neglected for too long.
wwjdljs
12-01-2003, 03:00 PM
Hi everyone, me again. Please, please, please, before any king of surgery, please check out the books by Dr. John R Lee MD about estrogen dominance. He has been on the fight against HRT with estrogen and progestin for over twenty years. Just recently have the main stream doctors begun to use natural progentrone with great success. Ask your own gyns and MDs about the recent studies and facts about the safety and success of this beneficial hormone. With too much estrogen in our bodies our ovaries cannot produce the necessary amounts of progestrone that prevents too much bleeding and tissue swelling in breasts and uterus. Also, without progesterone we cannot have calm clear thoughts. Progesterone affects so many bodily functions in a positive way. The good news is, it only has poisitive effects. Dr. Lee's books are called 'What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About Premenopause' and 'What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About Menopause'. Even, no, especially if you have already had a hysterectomy, you need natural progesterone.
Please, all of you are sweet, wonderful women worthy of the best. You have a lot to lose by not learning and life to gain by learning about this.
Love and tearful prayers for you all!!!
Please, all of you are sweet, wonderful women worthy of the best. You have a lot to lose by not learning and life to gain by learning about this.
Love and tearful prayers for you all!!!
Reze
12-02-2003, 12:33 AM
I have returned!!!! I don't think that I ever told y'all that I am self-employed...well, it has been a zoo around here lately...thank Gawd! We have 8 jobs on the "menu" right now! YEAH baby! Good deal since Bob and I have to pay for my freakin surgery!!! Confounded insurance companies!
Anyway, sorry I haven't been around....all this work ya know? Well, I go in for an EKG and chest X-ray tomorrow....the big day is drawing near! I am so excited and a touch nervous all at once. Panik, I am so happy for you...I think you and I will be so much happier post-op!
Good job on the non-smoking ladies! I really slipped up today. The hospital called to confirm my insurance and that set my nerves a blazing. I wonder how much they'll want up front??? Anyway I slipped from one half of a smoke to 2 whole cigarettes today. DRAT!
Willow, you have my deepest sympathies Honey. How are you holding up?
Miss you guys, bring me up to date...results, prognosis, etc....
Luff,
Reze
Anyway, sorry I haven't been around....all this work ya know? Well, I go in for an EKG and chest X-ray tomorrow....the big day is drawing near! I am so excited and a touch nervous all at once. Panik, I am so happy for you...I think you and I will be so much happier post-op!
Good job on the non-smoking ladies! I really slipped up today. The hospital called to confirm my insurance and that set my nerves a blazing. I wonder how much they'll want up front??? Anyway I slipped from one half of a smoke to 2 whole cigarettes today. DRAT!
Willow, you have my deepest sympathies Honey. How are you holding up?
Miss you guys, bring me up to date...results, prognosis, etc....
Luff,
Reze
PaNik5717
12-02-2003, 11:32 AM
Hey Reze,
You still have insurance, right? But they won't pay, is that right? I joined a forum just for hyster and I read of several women getting turned down. Then, they had their doc write a detailed letter to the insurance company to explain exactly why it was necessary. They all said that worked every time. A few also wrote their own letters, but I am sure the insurance takes the doc's letter more seriously.
When is your big day? I am so jealous of all of you. I know why I have to wait, but I just wish they would give me some hepatitis vaccines and pump someone else's blood into me. I am excited, too, and just a little nervous since it is major surgery. I don't even have a date yet, but I am hoping to see my doc right before Christmas to do a pre-op talk. Then, maybe I can get my third shot here in town in January and get this darn thing out of me around Valentine's. Oh, the good news is that I didn't beed yesterday and I'm not bleeding yet today. Maybe the Lupron is working. I can see how women gain weight on it. I think it is making me slightly nauseous and it makes me think I am hungry. Since it is shortly after meals and up until the next one, I start to crave sweets. I bought some ginger and lemons yesterday and I am going to try that today.
Do you have to do anything creepy for your pre-op? I have read about a special douche and an enema. Someone's doc told her to buy two enemas in case she needed one during her recovery. Maybe we should send a few to Liz!
Oh, there are also some good lists of what to take and how to prepare. I really wish I could give you the site. Do a search if you have time in between making all of that money! If you get there and it is a very royal, very purple place, you found it. It is the only one I have been to and the others are said to be very scary places.
It is so nice to hear from you, Reze. I hope everyone else is doing well. Willow, you are in my thoughts. I miss your humor!
Nik
You still have insurance, right? But they won't pay, is that right? I joined a forum just for hyster and I read of several women getting turned down. Then, they had their doc write a detailed letter to the insurance company to explain exactly why it was necessary. They all said that worked every time. A few also wrote their own letters, but I am sure the insurance takes the doc's letter more seriously.
When is your big day? I am so jealous of all of you. I know why I have to wait, but I just wish they would give me some hepatitis vaccines and pump someone else's blood into me. I am excited, too, and just a little nervous since it is major surgery. I don't even have a date yet, but I am hoping to see my doc right before Christmas to do a pre-op talk. Then, maybe I can get my third shot here in town in January and get this darn thing out of me around Valentine's. Oh, the good news is that I didn't beed yesterday and I'm not bleeding yet today. Maybe the Lupron is working. I can see how women gain weight on it. I think it is making me slightly nauseous and it makes me think I am hungry. Since it is shortly after meals and up until the next one, I start to crave sweets. I bought some ginger and lemons yesterday and I am going to try that today.
Do you have to do anything creepy for your pre-op? I have read about a special douche and an enema. Someone's doc told her to buy two enemas in case she needed one during her recovery. Maybe we should send a few to Liz!
Oh, there are also some good lists of what to take and how to prepare. I really wish I could give you the site. Do a search if you have time in between making all of that money! If you get there and it is a very royal, very purple place, you found it. It is the only one I have been to and the others are said to be very scary places.
It is so nice to hear from you, Reze. I hope everyone else is doing well. Willow, you are in my thoughts. I miss your humor!
Nik
Reze
12-03-2003, 12:24 AM
I am sooooo excited PANIK! I had my EKG today and all was well, plus my chest x-ray...no word till the doc sees it, but the tech seemed in good spirits so I am thinking all must be ok. The latest is that this surgery will be less uncomfortable than my gall bladder removal! I CAN TOTALLY HANDLE THAT! The doc will tell me whether or not I have to have an enema (yuk) and they may want me to use a benedine douche the night before...don't know yet.
I have a lousy choice to make though......prune juice everyday for 2 weeks or a stool softener for a month....ACK!
Oh, and they may take my right ovary, they won't know till they can see it, but they definitely want to leave the left one. I think all will be cool on this topic. What else? What am I forgetting? Oh, since it will most likely be a vaginal hysterectomy I will only be in the hospital for 24-48 hours and they want me up and moving the same night as the surgery. So you see girl, you need to get this done and with no worries. I am so excited and READY to go!
I will take your advice and ask my doc about the letter for the insurance company (those b@st@rds!).
Willow, RM, Becky, ......where is everyone? Your Cabana boys are lonesome! Lucky, Bee? Come out, come out where-ever you are!!!
Love to all,
Reze
I have a lousy choice to make though......prune juice everyday for 2 weeks or a stool softener for a month....ACK!
Oh, and they may take my right ovary, they won't know till they can see it, but they definitely want to leave the left one. I think all will be cool on this topic. What else? What am I forgetting? Oh, since it will most likely be a vaginal hysterectomy I will only be in the hospital for 24-48 hours and they want me up and moving the same night as the surgery. So you see girl, you need to get this done and with no worries. I am so excited and READY to go!
I will take your advice and ask my doc about the letter for the insurance company (those b@st@rds!).
Willow, RM, Becky, ......where is everyone? Your Cabana boys are lonesome! Lucky, Bee? Come out, come out where-ever you are!!!
Love to all,
Reze
becky1954
12-03-2003, 09:09 PM
Hi Reze-I haven't gone anywhere. I've been keeping up with everybody. I wish I wasn't so darn tired tonight. I might need a cabana boy. I'm glad to hear from you. I had my first seizure today in months. Do you think a cabana boy would help? I wish you luck. And don't give up on that insurance. They have to pay for it if your doctor can prove medical necessity. That is all the company really needs is a letter stating the procedure is medically necessary and they will reconsider it. That doesn't mean they have to pay for it but at least they have to reconsider it. Good luck!
liz109
12-05-2003, 04:42 PM
Hey ladies!!!!!!!
As far as the pre op stuff, it was pretty easy! Just the bloodwork, an EKG, chest XRay, NASTY bowel prep stuff to make you go until you have nothing left, and, of course, STARVING yourself! LOL! I only bought the enema just in case. I was supposed to start on the bowel prep stuff the morning the day before surgery, but didn't get a chance to take it until 3 in the afternoon the day before since my surgery was scheduled 1 day in advanced. Didn't have too much time to plan!
The not smoking is going GREAT! The only time I get cravings is at night after I have taken narcotics. It makes me feel drunk, which, in turn, gives me cravings.
I'm healing pretty well. The worse part so far has been the gas and constipation. After 7 days, I was FINALLY able to go. Trust me, the road I took to have that BM was HORRIBLE, and I'll spare you all the details. Pretty nasty!
Anyways, it still hurts a little to sit in this chair too long. I think it's time for me to go lay down and take a nap!!
As far as the pre op stuff, it was pretty easy! Just the bloodwork, an EKG, chest XRay, NASTY bowel prep stuff to make you go until you have nothing left, and, of course, STARVING yourself! LOL! I only bought the enema just in case. I was supposed to start on the bowel prep stuff the morning the day before surgery, but didn't get a chance to take it until 3 in the afternoon the day before since my surgery was scheduled 1 day in advanced. Didn't have too much time to plan!
The not smoking is going GREAT! The only time I get cravings is at night after I have taken narcotics. It makes me feel drunk, which, in turn, gives me cravings.
I'm healing pretty well. The worse part so far has been the gas and constipation. After 7 days, I was FINALLY able to go. Trust me, the road I took to have that BM was HORRIBLE, and I'll spare you all the details. Pretty nasty!
Anyways, it still hurts a little to sit in this chair too long. I think it's time for me to go lay down and take a nap!!
Reze
12-07-2003, 09:45 PM
Becky: I didn't know that you had seizures! What's the deal?
Liz: PLEASE tell me all about your hysterectomy!!! I am having a vaginal one on the 11th....just around the corner, eh? Spare NO details, tell me EVERYTHING!
Love to all,
Reze
Liz: PLEASE tell me all about your hysterectomy!!! I am having a vaginal one on the 11th....just around the corner, eh? Spare NO details, tell me EVERYTHING!
Love to all,
Reze
becky1954
12-08-2003, 06:30 AM
Reze-Hi
They're not the regular kind of seizures. They're temporal lobe where I just kind of space out and get numb on one side. This time it affected the opposite side though-weird.But I'm ok. I've been on meds for yrs.Just every once in awhile I have one now. Its funny when I was just on Dilantin I could still have them pretty regularly.Then my psych put me on Topamax to help me sleep and it is also for seizures and I haven't had any since I've been on it. But I am going to ask her to take me off it today b/c of all the bad side effects. I hate it.
Good luck to ya on the 11th. Keep us informed.
They're not the regular kind of seizures. They're temporal lobe where I just kind of space out and get numb on one side. This time it affected the opposite side though-weird.But I'm ok. I've been on meds for yrs.Just every once in awhile I have one now. Its funny when I was just on Dilantin I could still have them pretty regularly.Then my psych put me on Topamax to help me sleep and it is also for seizures and I haven't had any since I've been on it. But I am going to ask her to take me off it today b/c of all the bad side effects. I hate it.
Good luck to ya on the 11th. Keep us informed.
PaNik5717
12-08-2003, 01:58 PM
Wow, Becky. Seizures don't sound like any fun...even if they aren't the big ones that scare everyone around you. I am sure it is exhausting for you. Will you go back on the Dilantin or on something else? How often will it happen if you aren't on any meds at all?
Reze, I am so jealous of you. Only three more days. It's good that you get to have it vaginally. That is what I am hoping for, but I won't know until January. I know you are busy with work. Have you been able to get ahead on Christmas and prepare for your recovery? I know you have a wonderful man to help you out. Hey, are they taking your ovaries because of the endo? I am hoping to keep mine because they haven't caused me too many problems. Just one cyst that ruptured and left me spotting for a few days. It didn't hurt at all. Hey, how long is your car ride? You live a little out of town, right? Someone just made me aware that my two hour ride home may be a little too long when I first get released. Ugh! Are you emotional at all about this? I have had a few moments of grief and the Lurpon seems to be making me extra cranky, but it is still so far off and I am still bleeding so I want it more than anything right now. I can't wait to hear how yours goes.
Liz, how is the recovery going now that you got your bowels moving?
I miss everyone else. It is so nice that lives go on and health gets better. I will be so happy when that day comes, but I don't think I will ever forget the people I have "met" here.
Reze, I am so jealous of you. Only three more days. It's good that you get to have it vaginally. That is what I am hoping for, but I won't know until January. I know you are busy with work. Have you been able to get ahead on Christmas and prepare for your recovery? I know you have a wonderful man to help you out. Hey, are they taking your ovaries because of the endo? I am hoping to keep mine because they haven't caused me too many problems. Just one cyst that ruptured and left me spotting for a few days. It didn't hurt at all. Hey, how long is your car ride? You live a little out of town, right? Someone just made me aware that my two hour ride home may be a little too long when I first get released. Ugh! Are you emotional at all about this? I have had a few moments of grief and the Lurpon seems to be making me extra cranky, but it is still so far off and I am still bleeding so I want it more than anything right now. I can't wait to hear how yours goes.
Liz, how is the recovery going now that you got your bowels moving?
I miss everyone else. It is so nice that lives go on and health gets better. I will be so happy when that day comes, but I don't think I will ever forget the people I have "met" here.
becky1954
12-08-2003, 09:54 PM
Hi Panik-I got my psych to take me off topamax :bouncing: It was doing such horrible things. I was taking the Dilantin along with it and althought I would have seizures every once in a while I don't think I will go back to having them like I was. She also gave me a RX for a diet pill if my cardiologist will ok it. I hope so.I need to lose weight so badly.She said if that didn't work I might look into having that surgery since I have been having so many health problems lately. We'll see.
Are you still bleeding? How's things going with you?
Reze-good luck on your surgery.
Liz-how are you doing these days?I hope a little stronger every day.I think of you often.
Talk to yall later!
Are you still bleeding? How's things going with you?
Reze-good luck on your surgery.
Liz-how are you doing these days?I hope a little stronger every day.I think of you often.
Talk to yall later!
liz109
12-08-2003, 11:45 PM
OH wow Reze, didn't realize yours was right around the corner!
I had to have my abdominally!! OUCH! Either way, it's just no fun!
As far as my hysterectomy goes, I look back and it wasn't bad, BUT--it wasn't good either. I have had two kids vaginally and would MUCH RATHER have had 10 more kids naturally! That's what I told the nurse the first time I tried to stand up after surgery.
Well, I don't remember being wheeled into the ER, I was knocked O U T before then! I remember the nurse wheeling me away from my husband, looking up at her upside down, and saying "WOW, this stuff is working fa........" zzzzzzzzzzzzz. I was out.
I remember waking up in recovery fairly easy. Thank goodness I don't have any problems with anestesia. I told them before hand that I am very clostrophobic and I freak when I have an oxygen mask on. They were kind enough to give me oxygen through the nose tubes, which weren't uncomfortable at all.
They wheeled me into my room and was greeted by my mother (DH had to get the kids from daycare). I was in NO PAIN....I was quite loopy!
I was in and out of sleep due to the anestesia and I had a self administered morphine drip that I could give myself a dose every 10 min and I watched that clock closely. The next morning they made me walk for the first time. OUCH OUCH OUCH! By the time I was half sitting, I was screaming and crying. Worse than having either of my boys. I had to walk outside my room and back, and it SUCKED! The second time was alot easier than the first, and I was able to get out of bed on my own the third try and went for a walk by myself!!!!! They then started me on oxycotin and let me have the pump for an hour. They then removed my pump, IV, and oxygen. I don't know what it's like to have one vaginally, but, well--they take out the same parts. The gas and constipation are what really hurt! Also, I had to have on those leg massager things that keep inflating every 10 minutes. I thought they were comfortable, except when I had to walk in them. I had a catheter the entire time I was in the hospital also. I had to pee on my own and be able to empty my bladder before they released me!
Half of my right leg has been numb since my surgery. All on the inside, running from the inside of my thigh all the way down to the middle of my calf. I think they say this is normal in some cases, and it should go away on its own. However, I have my 2 week followup on Wednesday.
The first couple of days home were hard for me, because my mom and stepdad were here from out of town and I was bed ridden. I stayed in my room because I have an 18 month old that would have FLIPPED OUT if he would have seen me and I can NOT pick him up! That was really hard from me to hear him running around the house and not seeing him for almost a week. My 7 year old pampered me though. It's really hard not to be able to do things that your used to, like sweeping the floor or standing to make dinner.
However, I'm only 13 days post op, and went SHOPPING today. Went to JCPenny's, Toys R Us, Big Lots, and Marshall's. My mom and I were gone for 6 hours and I was able to keep up. However, I used a wheelchair if they had one, and made sure to sit if I had the opportunity. I also let my mom drop me off at the door.
You will do just fine! Let us know how it goes, and let me know if you have any specific questions!
Becky--I haven't been a member long and didn't know you had seizures. I hope your docs will be able to find a med that can control them. Also, good luck on the weight loss. What did she prescribe? My mom took Xenocal (sp?) and they worked great for her! Also, have you ever taken Neurontin, or even heard of it?
I had to have my abdominally!! OUCH! Either way, it's just no fun!
As far as my hysterectomy goes, I look back and it wasn't bad, BUT--it wasn't good either. I have had two kids vaginally and would MUCH RATHER have had 10 more kids naturally! That's what I told the nurse the first time I tried to stand up after surgery.
Well, I don't remember being wheeled into the ER, I was knocked O U T before then! I remember the nurse wheeling me away from my husband, looking up at her upside down, and saying "WOW, this stuff is working fa........" zzzzzzzzzzzzz. I was out.
I remember waking up in recovery fairly easy. Thank goodness I don't have any problems with anestesia. I told them before hand that I am very clostrophobic and I freak when I have an oxygen mask on. They were kind enough to give me oxygen through the nose tubes, which weren't uncomfortable at all.
They wheeled me into my room and was greeted by my mother (DH had to get the kids from daycare). I was in NO PAIN....I was quite loopy!
I was in and out of sleep due to the anestesia and I had a self administered morphine drip that I could give myself a dose every 10 min and I watched that clock closely. The next morning they made me walk for the first time. OUCH OUCH OUCH! By the time I was half sitting, I was screaming and crying. Worse than having either of my boys. I had to walk outside my room and back, and it SUCKED! The second time was alot easier than the first, and I was able to get out of bed on my own the third try and went for a walk by myself!!!!! They then started me on oxycotin and let me have the pump for an hour. They then removed my pump, IV, and oxygen. I don't know what it's like to have one vaginally, but, well--they take out the same parts. The gas and constipation are what really hurt! Also, I had to have on those leg massager things that keep inflating every 10 minutes. I thought they were comfortable, except when I had to walk in them. I had a catheter the entire time I was in the hospital also. I had to pee on my own and be able to empty my bladder before they released me!
Half of my right leg has been numb since my surgery. All on the inside, running from the inside of my thigh all the way down to the middle of my calf. I think they say this is normal in some cases, and it should go away on its own. However, I have my 2 week followup on Wednesday.
The first couple of days home were hard for me, because my mom and stepdad were here from out of town and I was bed ridden. I stayed in my room because I have an 18 month old that would have FLIPPED OUT if he would have seen me and I can NOT pick him up! That was really hard from me to hear him running around the house and not seeing him for almost a week. My 7 year old pampered me though. It's really hard not to be able to do things that your used to, like sweeping the floor or standing to make dinner.
However, I'm only 13 days post op, and went SHOPPING today. Went to JCPenny's, Toys R Us, Big Lots, and Marshall's. My mom and I were gone for 6 hours and I was able to keep up. However, I used a wheelchair if they had one, and made sure to sit if I had the opportunity. I also let my mom drop me off at the door.
You will do just fine! Let us know how it goes, and let me know if you have any specific questions!
Becky--I haven't been a member long and didn't know you had seizures. I hope your docs will be able to find a med that can control them. Also, good luck on the weight loss. What did she prescribe? My mom took Xenocal (sp?) and they worked great for her! Also, have you ever taken Neurontin, or even heard of it?
bumble bee lovr
12-09-2003, 12:54 AM
Hey girls! Long time no see-I have been swamped with holiday/work/family STUFF. Good job on the non-smoking and ther recoveries from surgery. I've been praying for everyone!
Well I avoid the doctor fore about 3 weeks (post Leep results), didn't want to know, then i decided I had to know-called the doctor about 6 times in one day, then didn't want to know when they didn't call me back...you all know the story!
So anyways, a month after the leep, a have negative margins? i asked the women if that was the same as clear and she said it meant they got everything! woohoo! so sounds like good news to me :) i'm excited! I go back in 6 months. They said the cervix did not have enough time to heal in 3 months? so May is what I'm looking at and I sure hope all is well-I'm ready for babies! :)
Gotta go, another long day tomorrow! Thanks again for answering everything and always listening. Hope all is well with everyone
bee lovr :wave:
Well I avoid the doctor fore about 3 weeks (post Leep results), didn't want to know, then i decided I had to know-called the doctor about 6 times in one day, then didn't want to know when they didn't call me back...you all know the story!
So anyways, a month after the leep, a have negative margins? i asked the women if that was the same as clear and she said it meant they got everything! woohoo! so sounds like good news to me :) i'm excited! I go back in 6 months. They said the cervix did not have enough time to heal in 3 months? so May is what I'm looking at and I sure hope all is well-I'm ready for babies! :)
Gotta go, another long day tomorrow! Thanks again for answering everything and always listening. Hope all is well with everyone
bee lovr :wave:
liz109
12-09-2003, 01:16 AM
:bouncing: Congrats on the LEEP results!!!! What a relief, huh?
Reze
12-09-2003, 02:50 AM
Big congrats on the LEEP results BeeLvr!!! Wooooo hoooooo
Liz: thanks for the info! I was just trying to figure out what to expect when I wake up from surgery. Sounds like there is a world of difference between an abdominal hysterectomy and a vaginal one. My doc says on a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being the worst pain imaginable, they will keep me between 2 and 4!!!! I CAN DO THAT! As for gas and constipation.....don't get me started! I have IBS, so I know all about being blocked up and the pain it causes. The doc has me on Zelnorm right now to keep things moving, then after surgery we will do a stool softener or prune juice. If I am not "moving" in say... a week I will request a laxative. Seriously, who needs the added discomfort of being backed up right after surgery. ICK!
Panik: Girlfriend, I am soooo ready for my surgery! My Xmas shopping is done, the lights are up, and I'll do the gift wrapping and shipping tomorrow! Bob is going to take a few days off from work and then my Mom is flying down after all...so I will be well taken care of...thanks for asking. Plus, I hired some extra Cabana boys! LOL Yes, my doc suspects endo and if she finds a lot of it on my right ovary it will have to go, but let's hope not. The car ride is 10 miles or a little less so it shouldn't be too bad. Nah, I haven't been at all emotional about this surgery. My biggest concerns have been: how will feel after? and, I hope I don't get too constipated! Now, I would be lying if I said I don't get a touch nervous from time to time, but not emotional. Probably because I am 38 and certain that I don't want anymore children, and the fact that I won't have periods anymore is quite welcome! I must admit, emotionally I am very READY for this...I could use the relief...10 years of horriffic periods is just too long, then this dysplasia fiasco.....yeah.....I am ready for the surgery! LOL
Panik: You should insist that yours be done vaginally or LAVH (laproscope). The recovery is MUCH quicker and the pain is significantly less than that of an abdominal one. Just ask poor Liz.
Y'all are the greatest and always in my prayers! I'll stop in before my surgery to chat and ofcourse will tell you all about it when it's over! :-)
Love,
Reze
Liz: thanks for the info! I was just trying to figure out what to expect when I wake up from surgery. Sounds like there is a world of difference between an abdominal hysterectomy and a vaginal one. My doc says on a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being the worst pain imaginable, they will keep me between 2 and 4!!!! I CAN DO THAT! As for gas and constipation.....don't get me started! I have IBS, so I know all about being blocked up and the pain it causes. The doc has me on Zelnorm right now to keep things moving, then after surgery we will do a stool softener or prune juice. If I am not "moving" in say... a week I will request a laxative. Seriously, who needs the added discomfort of being backed up right after surgery. ICK!
Panik: Girlfriend, I am soooo ready for my surgery! My Xmas shopping is done, the lights are up, and I'll do the gift wrapping and shipping tomorrow! Bob is going to take a few days off from work and then my Mom is flying down after all...so I will be well taken care of...thanks for asking. Plus, I hired some extra Cabana boys! LOL Yes, my doc suspects endo and if she finds a lot of it on my right ovary it will have to go, but let's hope not. The car ride is 10 miles or a little less so it shouldn't be too bad. Nah, I haven't been at all emotional about this surgery. My biggest concerns have been: how will feel after? and, I hope I don't get too constipated! Now, I would be lying if I said I don't get a touch nervous from time to time, but not emotional. Probably because I am 38 and certain that I don't want anymore children, and the fact that I won't have periods anymore is quite welcome! I must admit, emotionally I am very READY for this...I could use the relief...10 years of horriffic periods is just too long, then this dysplasia fiasco.....yeah.....I am ready for the surgery! LOL
Panik: You should insist that yours be done vaginally or LAVH (laproscope). The recovery is MUCH quicker and the pain is significantly less than that of an abdominal one. Just ask poor Liz.
Y'all are the greatest and always in my prayers! I'll stop in before my surgery to chat and ofcourse will tell you all about it when it's over! :-)
Love,
Reze
becky1954
12-09-2003, 06:24 AM
Hi Liz-I'm glad youre doing well enough to do some shopping. I haven't done any of that and I haven't even had surgery.I have a lot of back pain however and it keeps me from shopping for very long at a time. It sounds like you are doing much better. That is wonderful.The doc gave me Meridia. Is Neurontin for seizures?I've seen it mentioned on the boards but I've forgotten what its for.I don't go to a neurologist so unless I have a lot of seizures my primary won't change my meds.
beelovr-congrats on test.I know you are relieved.Not knowing is always the worst.It was for me.I was lucky.Mine was normal and I don't have to go back for a year.
beelovr-congrats on test.I know you are relieved.Not knowing is always the worst.It was for me.I was lucky.Mine was normal and I don't have to go back for a year.
liz109
12-09-2003, 06:30 AM
Yes, Neurontin is for seizures, however, they have found that it works well for pain. I was put on it due to unexplained chronic backaches--couldn't figure out what was wrong, so they just said that it was musculoskeletal pain and gave me the Neurontin. I guess they didn't want me getting too addicted to the narcotics.
Well, hopefully the near baseball sized cyst they removed from my ovary was the culprit of my backaches. Only time will tell!!!!!
Well, hopefully the near baseball sized cyst they removed from my ovary was the culprit of my backaches. Only time will tell!!!!!
PaNik5717
12-10-2003, 04:38 PM
Hello everyone! I sure hope all is well. BeeLovr: congrats on your results!
Reze, how are you today? I hear there is a big nesting phase right before the big day. That and a little insomnia. I am still so very jealous of you. I can't wait to at least get on an OR schedule. I hope it happens before my next office visit which isn't until Jan. 14. That is when I should find out what kind of procedure she is planning. I would definitely prefer a vaginal one, but she diagnosed me with an enlarged uterus when we first met. It is also retroverted and might be hard to see. I even had a massage therapist tell me that my uterus feels big for someone my size. I am only 5'1" and I don't know if me being small will change things either. I am hoping that this darn Lupron will kick in and I can start making more blood and getting back in shape. Then, regardless, my recovery should be quick because of my age.
Gosh, I wish I could bake you some cookies and bring them to you in the hospital in a few days. I'd follow up with a big lasagna that I would split for you and Bob and the Cabana boys, and Liz and her kids.
I really hope things go well and I can't wait to hear from you on the other side! :angel:
Nik
Reze, how are you today? I hear there is a big nesting phase right before the big day. That and a little insomnia. I am still so very jealous of you. I can't wait to at least get on an OR schedule. I hope it happens before my next office visit which isn't until Jan. 14. That is when I should find out what kind of procedure she is planning. I would definitely prefer a vaginal one, but she diagnosed me with an enlarged uterus when we first met. It is also retroverted and might be hard to see. I even had a massage therapist tell me that my uterus feels big for someone my size. I am only 5'1" and I don't know if me being small will change things either. I am hoping that this darn Lupron will kick in and I can start making more blood and getting back in shape. Then, regardless, my recovery should be quick because of my age.
Gosh, I wish I could bake you some cookies and bring them to you in the hospital in a few days. I'd follow up with a big lasagna that I would split for you and Bob and the Cabana boys, and Liz and her kids.
I really hope things go well and I can't wait to hear from you on the other side! :angel:
Nik
Reze
12-10-2003, 11:18 PM
Hey Gang! Just popped in to say "Hi." I am going to take an Ambien and go to sleep soon; I have to get up at five in the morning to administer an enema to myself.....OH JOY!
Anyway, I feel great and will let you all know how it goes...I come home friday night, but probably won't be up for much until after the weekend.
Panik: You are such a sweetheart, thank you for all your kind words. I'll be in touch soon.
Love,
Reze
Anyway, I feel great and will let you all know how it goes...I come home friday night, but probably won't be up for much until after the weekend.
Panik: You are such a sweetheart, thank you for all your kind words. I'll be in touch soon.
Love,
Reze
becky1954
12-11-2003, 06:28 AM
Reze-I didn't realize today was the day.I've kinda lost track of time I guess.Good luck and I will be thinking of you.Keep us informed.
MissyDakini
02-16-2005, 08:48 AM
Hi everybody..
I am new to this board,i need ur help gals...i developed a reaction i think after waxing my xxxx. Below my vagina lips...i developed a small tissue...i thought it might go away...then i waxed again after 3 weeks...another one developed next to it..double the size...it is a vaginal polyp???I wonder why...must i suddenly suffer from this..I wanna get rid of it...badly...any gals advice???
I am new to this board,i need ur help gals...i developed a reaction i think after waxing my xxxx. Below my vagina lips...i developed a small tissue...i thought it might go away...then i waxed again after 3 weeks...another one developed next to it..double the size...it is a vaginal polyp???I wonder why...must i suddenly suffer from this..I wanna get rid of it...badly...any gals advice???
Lucky87531
06-30-2005, 10:04 PM
Ladies, are you still around? I drifted away from this website because I found it depressing... but have ventured back to do some more research as my dysplasia is still kicking my butt