Interested in your opinions/experiences with "magnet therapy". Bracelets, pillows, insoles etc. (ie pain, sleep, thinking etc.)

Thanks.

I have many friends/family members who have had great success using Nikken products for their bad backs. HTH!

Never had much success with it, tried it on and off for several years, not for me so went back to the usual teas and conventional meds and it is keeping all of it at bay.

Interested in your opinions/experiences with "magnet therapy". Bracelets, pillows, insoles etc. (ie pain, sleep, thinking etc.)

Thanks.

I have found them helpful. Nikken is very expensive. I have found other companies that are much less expensive and work just as well. Do some research on the web.

I have not used them but two friends have. One loves the mattress-said is is very helpful for her lower back pains. She even bought a portable one for travel.
My partner at work bought a mattress and had a bad reaction to it. She told me her chiropractor also told her he had a bad reaction to it as well. Not everyone benefits from it and it can cause some intense side effects. Look it up on the internet- not the company's opinions but some of the studies done.
I think is can be very different for everyone.

I've used magnets since the 80's. They're my #1 pain reliever. I have braces for my back, wrists, knees & ankles. I use the little 'spot' ones for trigger points e.g. sciatica or wing pain, other injuries

I can't use the mattress, as it 'overstimulates' me.

LIGHT*********carole

I had misplaced my wrist bracelet for some months. I was like a little kid when I found it. I have "tennis elbow", from what I have no clue. The bracelet does seem to take the pain away, but it takes a few weeks. Better than meds is my opinion.

Interested in your opinions/experiences with "magnet therapy". Bracelets, pillows, insoles etc. (ie pain, sleep, thinking etc.)

Thanks.

I've used these since the 80's, and now have a good collection for my wrists, ankles, back, & spot ones for sciatica & other owies.

But can't do the mattress, as it's overstimulating for me with Lupus.

carole

I read an article recently that placing magnets under mattresses helps with a number of things. Anyone tried this? :)

I've used them since the 80's for pain. I have wraps for my wrists, ankles, back, knees, etc., and use the "spot" ones for other owies & sciatica.

They're in my #1 tool box! But the mattress "over" stimulates me.

LIGHT*********carole

Magnetic therapy can be used very successfully for a great number of conditions. What many people don't know is that the North pole of a magnet has the opposite effect of the South pole of a magnet. Albert Roy Davis was the first scientist to discover this, in 1936. Davis and his partner, Walter C. Rawls, have found in their research that magnetism can be used for many different applications. You can use it to enhance plant growth, eliminate toxic waste, make stronger metals, etc. North pole (negative) energy is the healing energy, and South pole (positive) energy can be very dangerous to your health. Many products have bipolar magnets in them, so both the North and South poles are facing your body. Bipolar magnets can improve the condition for a while, but the effects do not last. Sooner or later, the improvements will end. Some products even have the South pole of the magnet facing the body. This is especially dangerous since South pole energy can increase the growth of bacteria, infections, cancer and other abnormal growths.

I'm certain that the people who've had negative experiences with the mattress pads (or other products) were exposed to South pole energy. Think of all of those people that had side effects after having an MRI. They were bathed in a very powerful South pole magnetic field during the procedure. Most people, including those that work with MRI's daily, aren't aware of the danger that South pole magnetic energy poses. The people who set up the MRI's aren't either, so they pay no attention to what direction the magnetic fields are facing.

Mattress pads shouldn't be used even when you're only exposed to the North pole energy. Magnets are much more effective when only one magnet is used at a time, on a specific area of the body. The brain shouldn't have that much exposure to magnetic energy either. The gauss (magnetic strength) must be high enough for good results. Large magnets are more powerful than small magnets, regardless of what the gauss is said to be. When it comes to large, powerful magnets, unipolar ceramic magnets are the best. Some magnets that are claimed to be unipolar, with only the North pole facing the body, are not. You have to be very careful, and be absolutely certain that your magnets expose you to the North pole.

Is there any scientific basis for all that? I tend to look at this form of alternative therapies as speculative.

One of the main hospitals in Denmark (where I live) started a test a couple of years ago with magnets on knee patients. They suspected that the magnetic field could help rebuild the cartilage. I’m afraid I don't know of the outcome of this or if they have completed the tests.

The hospital is normally very conservative in there treatments. I have been treated by the doctor in charge of tease tests and he is by no means pro alternative. Anyway that he would show interest in this certainly peaked my interest.

If I can find anything further on this I will post it.

Just as a side note on MRI. I have never heard of anybody having side effects.

Contrary to statements often made in the media, there is an enormous amount of scientific evidence proving that magnet therapy is effective. Many universities have done biomagnetic research, like MIT, Columbia University, University of Virginia, University of Colorado, New York University and plenty of others. These studies are rarely published, but there are some books on magnet therapy that list dozens of studies, even hundreds. Healing with Magnets, by Gary Null, is one of them. Davis and Rawls have written several books too. The Magnetic Blueprint of Life has hundreds of studies listed in the back of the book, from several different countries, though the conclusions of these studies aren't in the book. That would require a book in itself. Thousands of scientists and doctors have duplicated experiments done by Davis and Rawls over the years.

Here is one study that was published in the Journal of the National Medical Association, Volume 82, Number 9, in September of 1990. The title of the article is, "Evolving Perspectives on the Exposure Risks from Magnetic Fields." "In an attempt to verify the effects of magnetic fields on cancer, an experiment was performed using human lung carcinoma cells (A-549). The results indicated that a significant decrease in the growth curve of these cells occured between 6 and 144 hours when placed in close proximity to the north field of a 3.5 kilogauss magnet (written Personal communication. Philip M. Lorio, February, 1988). This experiment verified the statement that different magnetic field polarities produce different effects: while one polarity produced a decrease in the growth curve, the opposite produced and increase." "The experiment with human lung carcinoma cells verified the statement by Davis and Rawls that there is an increase in the growth curve of human lung carcinoma cells when exposed to positive polarity magnetic fields. Thus, these magnetic field configurations could present potential risks. The designers of these types of installations (eg, MRI, ESR) should consider the effects of the magnetic field and its orientation. The positive fields should be emitted in areas of limited occupancy. If new and old installations cannot be redesigned to reorient the magnetic field configuration, these units should be shielded to negate the positive polarity magnetic field."

I've used magnets for years, as have several of my family members. Doctors have a puzzled look in their eyes when they see how fast injured family members of mine heal. We've gotten a few of them to try magnets too, and they've been amazed at how well they work.

I'm a skeptic at heart and once I've tried something and it has no effect on my condition then I tend to think it is not all it is hyped up to be. But I'm open to trying anything once or many times. I used magnets for a year, different areas, different times of the year but never improved my arthritis. LIke all medical techniques what works for one doesn't necessarily work for another. I had no side effects of course, just nothing at all.

I've used magnets for years, as have several of my family members. Doctors have a puzzled look in their eyes when they see how fast injured family members of mine heal. We've gotten a few of them to try magnets too, and they've been amazed at how well they work.

Ditto!

Fascinating subject, always looking for new alternatives to help my boy. Don't exactly understand how it works. May sound silly, but wouldn't just putting say the head of your bed in a northerly direction help? And if you have say a magnet for each wrist, will this "balance" you more? And for those of you that had the matteress pad, did you sleep on it all night or did you have a time limit say 10-15min before sleeping(as I've read)? :)

Mattress pads shouldn't be used even when you're only exposed to the North pole energy. Magnets are much more effective when only one magnet is used at a time, on a specific area of the body. The brain shouldn't have that much exposure to magnetic energy either. The gauss (magnetic strength) must be high enough for good results. Large magnets are more powerful than small magnets, regardless of what the gauss is said to be. When it comes to large, powerful magnets, unipolar ceramic magnets are the best. Some magnets that are claimed to be unipolar, with only the North pole facing the body, are not. You have to be very careful, and be absolutely certain that your magnets expose you to the North pole.

How do you determine if the magnet you're using is north or south?

The side of a compass marked South will be attracted to the North pole of your magnet. The side of the compass marked North will be attracted to the South pole of your magnet. You'll find that some people will say that the way I have described it is incorrect. They are wrong. The method I described is the way Davis and Rawls would define the poles. The magnetic North pole of the earth is in the Northern hemisphere and the magnetic South pole of the earth is in the Southern hemisphere.

Fascinating subject, always looking for new alternatives to help my boy. Don't exactly understand how it works. May sound silly, but wouldn't just putting say the head of your bed in a northerly direction help? And if you have say a magnet for each wrist, will this "balance" you more? And for those of you that had the matteress pad, did you sleep on it all night or did you have a time limit say 10-15min before sleeping(as I've read)? :)

It has helped my back immeasurably! The pad I have is the full size of the bed so taking it off and on would be out of the question for me; plus, it is meant to remain there.

Thanks Peregrine, interested for other reasons other than the back, although would be nice to try out. Whole lot of therapies out there, even found myself researching hyperberic chambers(oxygen) and sauna therapy(for detox).

Selfhelp: interesting, I've heard that if you point the head of your bed in a northerly direction you'll get a better nights sleep and pleasant dreams. I know sounds flaky however willing to explore all the "cheaper" alternatives first. Has any one tried this? :)

Thanks Peregrine, interested for other reasons other than the back, although would be nice to try out. Whole lot of therapies out there, even found myself researching hyperberic chambers(oxygen) and sauna therapy(for detox).

Selfhelp: interesting, I've heard that if you point the head of your bed in a northerly direction you'll get a better nights sleep and pleasant dreams. I know sounds flaky however willing to explore all the "cheaper" alternatives first. Has any one tried this? :)


I've had issues with sleep quality for the past few years. (non restfull) We just moved from a bedroom with a bed headed south to a bedroom with a bed aimed north. (was south for 7 years and north for ~ 1.5 years) I haven't noticed any change in my sleep quality. Sure wished it worked though. You never know though, it could work for some.

Thanks Mikeb! Always suspected that if it worked...probably not very noticeable...eh? Maybe the bracelets?, what with being on the wrists all the time and constantly attracting the magnetic fields? Definitely not ready to shell out 1000s for a mattress pad...must explore cheaper alternatives first.
As for sleep, was a prob with my boy when he was younger and the only thing that turned it around was supplements. Never was a "vitamin-nut" before, but totally sold on them now. :)

I used to be a distributor for a firm who made magnetic products for people as well as animals. The people who purchased were mainly suffering from arthritis and the sucess rate was about 80% among people and 99% for animals. The firm eventually found that people who had a low ph body value i.e more acidic were more likely not to be helped. They started selling an electrolyte supplement which increased body ph values and the success rate increased a lot.
Animals particularly dogs and cats suffering from arthritis and hip displacia were helped tremendously with magnetic collars.

Good info liverock! Didn't know about the pH.... wonder if there's any stats on the effectiveness of magnets on other conditions? :)

magnets work,heres a experiment you can try at home. stand straight both feet together, hold both arms straight out, twist your arms as far as you can without moving your legs hips ect..when your twisted to your max look down you arm and see where your pointing "remember the object or whatever" without leaving your position pick up a magnet" a strong fridg magnet will do."now hold the magnet in your hand and twist again. youll be amazed at how much further you can turn!!!! hope you understand my directions,i ve always showed this in person.post your results here if you try it.

Interested in your opinions/experiences with "magnet therapy". Bracelets, pillows, insoles etc. (ie pain, sleep, thinking etc.)

Thanks.

What particular information are you looking for, I may be able to shed some light for you. :)

What particular information are you looking for, I may be able to shed some light for you. :)

Just interested in your personal experiences with magnets. Do you or have you tried them? and what did you experience?
Thanks.

Just interested in your personal experiences with magnets. Do you or have you tried them? and what did you experience?
Thanks.

Yes I have tried them and got possitive results from their use, I suffered with back pain and purchased a magnetic back wrap and in a couple of days the pain had lessened and in a week the pain had totally gone; I wear a bracelet on my left wrist and I use a carpal wrap on my right wrist when I am typing on the computer as I have R.S.I and have found that the magnets help to dull the pain and even use them as a preventative.

My father wears a bracelet and swers that it helps the pain in his hand and fingers and even wears a magnetic lumbar pad for his back (40 yrs as a heavy goods wagon driver has given rise to a very bad back) and says he does not notice any pain in his back whilst wearing the pad.

My mother wears a bracelet and necklace and wears a pair of magnetic fingerless gloves when she is sewing to prevent cramps in the hand (to which she suffered quite a lot).

All in all, the people that I know that I have introduced magnet therapy have had possitive results with magnetic therapy products. But that does not mean to say it will benefit everyone.

And remember not all magnets are the same ;)

I will copy a post from another forum about magnet therapy that I wrote about.

Magno :)

We’ve all been to chemist or health food store for one thing or another and most will have probably noticed the magnet bracelets by the checkout that say they are 100 - 500 Gauss, took a quick glance and decided that if it says it will help with pain in the joints and the fact that it probably only costs a few quid, then it is money well spent…. Or is it?

Magnet Therapy (Magno Therapy, Magneto Therapy, Magnetic Therapy, Biomagnetic Therapy) may sound like a new therapy, but it is probably one of the oldest natural therapies in existence. As far back as 400B.C the ancient Aryans were using magnets to treat a wide range of ailments and diseases, their scriptures even referenced them using different magnetic poles to treat different conditions.

The Greek scholars such as Plato, Homer and Aristotle explained the different properities of a magnet. In 200B.C the Greek physician Galen was using magnets to treat pain and in 69-30B.C it is said that Queen Cleopatra wore a natural magnetic amulet on her forehead to preserve her youth (we now know that be hind the forehead lies the pituitary gland).

Up until the discovery of antibiotics by Sir Alexander Flemming in 1928 the use of magnets decreased as a healing aid.

So what is a Magnet?

The sun, moon, stars and the whole universe are in fact large natural magnets; even our own bodies are magnets, we are all made up from atoms, an atom is made from the central nucleus consisting of protons (+) surrounded by electrons (-), these electrons then spin around on their own axis as the gyrate around the nucleus, this then generates a magnetic field.

The first magnet to be mentioned in healing was the loadstone, which was ground down to a powder with other substances and taken internally (I do not advocate this method). Loadstones occur from natural rocks and are a mixture of lava rocks, iron and minerals (Ferrosoterric oxide Fe3 04). The molten lava from erupting volcanoes cooled and hardened to form rocks, because this lava contained a large amount of iron, the natural magnetism of the earth had been retained; this magnetic field was a lot stronger when the earth was younger.

Different types of magnets for healing.

Magnets that are used for healing have strong magnetic fields and can either be temporary like an electro magnet (a wire coiled around a bar of magnetic material with a current passing through it) or permanent.

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Permanent magnets were traditionally made of iron, but this was found to be of low power and lost its strength quickly and was replaced with:

Ceramic magnets (3,950 core gauss / 800-1100 surface gauss) are made from fired clay, barium ferrite and water, they are then heated to 980 oC, poured in to moulds to cool down and then finally magnetised. These magnets will hold their strength for years to come, but they are brittle; these magnets are often placed in sleep systems as they are not as expensive and therefore more can be used and distribute an even release of magnetic fields.

Neodymium magnets (12,300 core gauss / 1,500 - 2,000 surface gauss) are the king of magnets, however are expensive to produce but more powerful and less brittle. Neodymium is a rare earth metal and is mixed with iron and boron to form small disks or blocks. These magnets are coated to prevent rust due to the iron content when exposed to moisture. Professional therapists use these.

Flexible magnetic rubber (2,550 core gauss / 800 - 1100 surface gauss) is used in insoles utilising a diamond grid pattern with bipolar properties to provide magnetic fields to the feet.

Everyday household magnets should not be used, as these are too weak in magnetic strength to give noticeable benefit.

Gauss?

You cannot read about magnetic therapy without the mention of Gauss, magnetic strength is measure in Gauss after Carl Friedrich Gauss, a German mathematician and physicist. Telsa is also used, after Nikola Telsa, a Serbian-American researcher (1 Telsa = 1000 Gauss). Magnets used in bracelets and such should be no less than 1000 gauss to give any benefit and always look for the core Gauss as well as the surface gauss; remember the magnet bracelets at the checkout, 100 - 500 gauss would not scratch the surface of the pain and therefore you get what you paid for, quality magnetic items can be expensive but will last a good time.

Bipolar or Unipolar magnets.

This term is confusing as all magnets are bipolar I.e. they have both a negative pole on one side and a positive pole on the other (although I have heard some companies are applying both north and south to the same side, but have yet to fathom how :confused: ). What this often means is that some therapist will treat with one selected pole at a time (this will give better results IMO) whereas others will use two different poles at the same time or one after the other (slower method as the two different poles try to block each other out and therefore do not go as deep in to the tissue; but will work).

North / Negative V’s South / Positive

The different poles have different properties, north pole is considered a relaxing pole and south is considered an energetic pole, knowing north and south is confusing if you read the vast amounts of magnetic therapy literature available on the net. To a therapist north would mean geographical north and south would mean geographical south; but as the north pole magnet is south pole seeking and vice versa, it became confusing for the general public and even dangerous as using south pole for too long could be extremely bad for health. So the early books say use South Pole seeking (which is north) and even omitted the seeking part; so to avoid confusion modern therapists are using the term negative and positive when applying magnets to the human body.

The negative pole is considered the safest to use and the positive pole should only be applied by trained therapists and left on the body for no longer than 20 minutes.

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What does magnet therapy do to the body?

When a negative pole magnet is placed on a particular point on the body (pain site) it lengthens and relaxed the tissue and agitates the blood cells to produce more oxygen in that area, this in turn enables the body to switch on it’s own beta endorphins (pain relieving system). Magnets do not do the healing; they only encourage the bodies own self-healing abilities to kick in.

Magnet Therapy is not suitable:

for pregnant and lactating women

People fitted with a battery operated implant such as a pace maker, defibrillators, insulin pumps or other electro-insulin devices.

Children under 7 yrs of age

DISCLAIMER:

Before begining any treatment, it is highly recommended that you consult your own G.P/Physician and seek his/her expert advice. Magnet therapy is not to be used as a substitute for good medical practise.

Magno.

wow I will try this sounds pretty good