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tia2
02-14-2005, 03:17 PM
Hi all, Happy Valentines day! :wave:
Here's my story...I'm female 38, 130lbs. I've (up until last year) never had a problem with weight, always weighed in at 112-118. I quit smoking 7-03 and then ate rather than smoked. I want to be around 120ish size 5. (I've always been size 3, but I think that is too thin) I feel huge, and have changed my way of eating..I'm eating around 1000-1200 cals a day..all I want to do is eat, I'm in the kitchen constantly, and slapping my hands the whole way back out.
Today for example I had 2 egg whites and a cup of coffee
For lunch I had tomato soup with green beans and 4 fat free crackers, 1 cup of green tea.
I want to munch, munch, munch... is it ok if I munched on fresh brocolli, or had a salad? It's only been 1 hour and I want to eat again. Are there ok foods I can munch on every hour on the hour? I feel obsessive about eating right to lose this 10 lbs and want to curb my hunger also.
I do exercise 3-4 times a week also.
It's like I'm always looking at the clock "Can I eat yet?" I'm going to have a glass of v-8 with flax seeds at 3:00 and an apple, maybe a couple triscuits.
Anyone else feel obsessive about losing weight? This is driving me crazy! :eek:

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tia2
02-15-2005, 10:39 AM
I've decided to solve my problem the non-healthy but effective way...they sell "mini-thins" at one of the gas stations in town..Legal speed. I'm going to have to go get them today..whatever works!!

LV40
02-15-2005, 11:15 AM
My friend took mini-thins and had a heart attack at 27. Do you really want to risk your health just to lose a few pounds?

joekerr30
02-15-2005, 11:48 AM
as far as I'm concerned anyone who turns to chemicals sold at a gas station and puts their life at risk to lose a few pounds needs to stop worrying about their diet and seek psychological counselling. you obviously have some serious psychological issues to put your life at risk for a couple of pounds.

The only psychologically healthy reason to lose weight is to increase your health (both for today and in the years to come.) Taking mini-thins will not increase your health but put it at complete risk.

Imagine you take these mini thins and end up with a heart murmur and have to stop dieting and exercising all together for a while and end up putting on 15 pounds.

my personally opinion is that people who try to cheat the process using medically unsupervised drugs are probably so stupid that whatever benefits to their life they are seeking to gain from losing a few pounds won't be enough to make up for whatever mess their life is in because of their stupidity. If people are so dumb as to take these drugs, odds are they are making hundreds of other dumb decisions in other areas of their life as well.

sorry for being harsh here, i just think it is really really stupid risking a heart attack to lose a few pounds.

J

tia2
02-15-2005, 12:21 PM
Ok, now that I have your attention, could I please have my question answered? I was wondering if I could munch on veggies all day to curb my hunger...sometimes when you get ignored you will take drastic measures..I won't take minithins if I'm offered healthier alternatives.

Kay33
02-15-2005, 12:46 PM
Tia,
Maybe your diet is too strict (?) I know you want to get the weight off fast, but you don't want your metabolism going into 'starve' mode, where it slows down....eating several small snacks/meals is good...
I'd say eat all the broccoli you want (if you can handle the gas :p )...or carrots, celery..any of that would be fine...sunflower seeds (in the shells) are good too.
Are you drinking lots of water?
Sometimes, I graze when I'm bored...maybe you too?..
Just some thoughts, hope it helps.

tia2
02-15-2005, 12:54 PM
Thanks Kay,
I appreciate you taking the time to help me out. Maybe I'm not eating enough? My first post listed what I had up until lunch, after that, I had yogurt, trisuits for snack...kiwi 45 minutes later...3 triscuits..1/2 hour later.
Dinner I had a grilled chicken salad and 1 small piece of pizza (I know...failure! ) 8pm I had 1 serving of sugar free jello.

Should I eat more? Can I eat so often? (like I did yesterday)

astw22
02-15-2005, 01:23 PM
I think it is perfectly okay to munch on veggies and fruits throughout the day... they have few calories and far better than munching on potato chips or something unhealthy... i munch on carrots, clementines, grapes and celery between my meals.. go ahead and munch away as 1000-1200 calories does not seem like alot to eat especially if you are working out 4 times a week.. I have the same problem where I was down to 1200 calories - starving all the time - exercising 5 times a week and not losing any weight.. I just bumped my calories up to see if that will help.. i have heard others talk about your body going into starvation mode if you dont eat enough calories.. good luck..

Kay33
02-15-2005, 01:26 PM
Should I eat more? Can I eat so often? (like I did yesterday)


Did you just start this diet? or have you already seen results? 1,000-1,200 is pretty restrictive..I sure wouldn't go any lower...The thing is, you're not overweight to begin with, so, you either REALLY restrict calories or up the exercise. Maybe a combination of both would be better for you (??)..

The older we get, the less calories we need...I'd hate to see you help that along by slowing down your metabolism even more by not eating enough.

Keep eating the way you are...yes it's fine to eat often...in fact, that's better than 3 heavy meals. Yes, eat all the green raw veggies you want, all day..if you like.

I'd think about adding more lean protein --it's more filling (cottage cheese is good too). Along w/more exercise (an extra day, or more intense on those 3 days)....Your body adjusts to things quickly, so I usually try and keep it 'guessing'...including calories, I would allow myself to indulge a little (not go crazy), every so often (no more than once a week)...
I don't know if I've answered your question...and this is NOT scientific!..just my opinions..I'm not advocating this approach, it just happens to work for me (also a former smoker) that has spent a lifetime trying to stay on the thinner side.

LV40
02-15-2005, 02:21 PM
Ok, now that I have your attention, could I please have my question answered? I was wondering if I could munch on veggies all day to curb my hunger...sometimes when you get ignored you will take drastic measures..I won't take minithins if I'm offered healthier alternatives.
It's a no-brainer that vegetables are a healthier alternative. Of course you can munch on them to curb hunger. Perhaps nobody answered that particular question right away because most of the world already knows we could all use more vegetables in our diets.

I'm sorry I didn't answer your original question, but because of what happened to my friend, I become concerned when people say things like that.

tia2
02-15-2005, 02:29 PM
Thanks guys! Just got back from working out (in my "zone" for 45 mins.) On my way to the store to get some cottage cheese, chicken and other stuff, I'd love to do this the healthiest way possible, and lately it's become an obsession I'm not proud of.

To answer your questions..I've been really watching what I eat for the past 3 weeks or so, and I've only seen 1lb loss..grrr. Between the 12 hour swing shift I work, and the potluck meals occasionally offered there, I feel my body is in shambles.

I would love to know I can eat more, but scared I'd gradually go up in weight again.
Right now I'm fighting the urge to make peanut butter cookies...maybe with splenda would it be ok? Uggg I'm a mess!!!!

tia2
02-15-2005, 02:38 PM
Sorry LV40, I shouldn't of drawn attention that way and I appologize. It may be a no brainer to eat lots of vegetables, but I've also heard that you can consume more than your calorie intake allows and therefore inhibit the deficit...I just don't want to over do it, but apparently, I won't by munching all day....not sure which is true though. :confused:

LV40
02-15-2005, 02:45 PM
Sorry LV40, I shouldn't of drawn attention that way and I appologize. It may be a no brainer to eat lots of vegetables, but I've also heard that you can consume more than your calorie intake allows and therefore inhibit the deficit...I just don't want to over do it, but apparently, I won't by munching all day....not sure which is true though. :confused:
That's ok, it just sort of alarmed me when you said that. Those pills are dangerous.

And yes, you can consume more calories than you need by eating just about anything. You can lose weight eating candy bars and get fat eating nothing but vegetables, it's all about taking in more calories than your body needs.

The best thing to do is find an online calorie calculator. One that asks for your age, weight, height, sex and activity level. It will give you an estimate on how many calories you need to eat per day to maintain your current weight. To LOSE weight, you subtract 500 from that. For example, my maintenance calories are about 1900. If I ate 1900 calories every day, I would maintain my weight. If I ate more than that, I would gain. However, I subtract 500 from the 1900 and get 1400, which is what I eat every day. I've been doing the calorie counting since June and have lost almost 55 pounds.

It's simply a matter of consuming fewer calories than your body burns.

joekerr30
02-15-2005, 02:45 PM
potluck meals?

if you are on a low cal diet 99% of the time then gobble up 1000-1500 calories in one sitting you are sabotaging yourself. when you diet you slow your metabolism, which basically means when you break down and have a meal that is a 1000 cals, your body stores it like its 2000 cals (not sure of the numbers here, just that it treats the meal like its a lot more cals than it normally would.) Do this a couple of times a week and you may actually end up gaining weight.

It sounds to me like you might not be ready to change your diet for an extended amount of time. In my opinion to make a diet work you can't cheat, its not really a diet, more of an eating lifestyle change. If the urge is overwhelming to make things like peanut butter cookies, then this may not be tha tpoint in your life where you are ready to diet. It sounds like (the taste of) food is still a major reason why you eat.

I've found that I was only successful in dieting when food for me was no longer a comfort source. Food for me now is feul for my body and nothing more. I'm down 27 pounds in about 1.5 months. STill have another 20 to go. Once i reach my goal weight then ill be able to enjoy some of the sinful foods. Id rather give up things like peanut butter cookies for 2,4,6, even 12 months to acheive my weight loss goals and then be able to eat them (in moderation) for the rest of my life without sacrificing my health to do so.

I think succeeding on a diet is 80% mental. You have to want to lose the weight more than you want to eat peanut butter cookies. And that doesnt mean starving yourself, it means feeding your body a balanced diet that stays within the calorie range you've chosen. Even with splenda, those cookies are still basically going to be empty calories - meaning that your body is really getting nothing from them in terms of nutrition - you'd be eating them for two reasons only - 1) you like the taste and 2) they provide you with some form of comfort. Personally I'd rather have a bowl of tuna w/ mayo and feed my body protein than eat foods that have 0% nutrition to them.

thats probably the biggest change ive experienced and the biggest reason for my weight gain. I've stopped eating foods that have no nutritional value.

good luck,
J

tia2
02-15-2005, 03:42 PM
As much as I'd love to make those cookies, I'll grab the carrot or apple instead. I do have self control and will hold out until I've reached my goal, or on my 1 sinful day per week...(allowing myself one)

I try to fill up on the salads, and make *smart* choices on the potluck days, portion control, etc. and make SURE I work out on THOSE days especially...(fortunately, the dinners are only a couple times a month)

I'll have to accept that serious depression is included in my goal to lose weight...the deprivation sometimes drives me nuts like it did yesterday.

joekerr30
02-15-2005, 04:28 PM
depression should not be a part of a any diet or exercise routine in my opinion.

just my 2 cents here, but odds are your depression exists independent of your weight to a large degree, and is probably what caused you to gain weight in the first place. i find that is the case with myself. when you're depressed and diet, it can feel like you are torturing yourself, because food is what you eat to comfort yourself (it's your reward, comfort, mood stabilizer, etc.). Im sure there is a neurochemical reason behind this (ie. getting a bit of an up from increased sugar intake, etc.)

Perhaps part of the reason im able to stick to my diet without any real difficulty (so far anyway) is that i worked through my depression a while ago. To be honest i don't think i could have been successful in this diet if i were still depressed. Losing weight has so many tough spots that you have to get through (ie. weight plateaus, consistency in diet and exercise, etc.) and when you are depressed it's so hard to keep the motivation going. I find without the burden of depression you are able to continually see the healthy goal which you are striving for and have patience that you will reach it - and as a result you keep to your regime, and sometimes even push yourself harder.

I posted last month how i feel it's almost impossible to lose weight in a healthy fashion if you are under a lot of stress (ie. work, relationships, depression, etc.) Stress just beats our body up so badly that its so hard to have the energy to live a healthy diet and carry out an exercise routine.

They say being over weight kills people. Personally i think stress is what kills people, because it's various forms of stress that lead people into unhealthy lifestyles, in my opinion anyway.

The only advice I'd have for people who are depressed and trying to lose weight at the same time, is to take up walking (1-2 hours a day if possible). This is the only exercise that kills too birds with 1 stone in my opinion. You can do it even when you are down in the dumps and you get a lot of fresh air (which will elevate your mood for a bit.) A regular walking routine can shift your perspective on exercise from something you do to lose weight to something you do to feel good - and once you start thinking that way it's 100% guaranteed that you will eventually end up at your ideal weight.

J

caliann24
02-15-2005, 04:38 PM
Hi there.
I have he same problem you do, I feel like if my hand is not in a box of Teddy Grahms or around a sandwich, I am starving! Fortunalty, I have come up with a solution that has helped me lose about 10 lbs since Christmas. (I weight 125 now) First, I do work out 3-4 times a week, that is a good start. When ever I go to the grocery store, I only buy two bag of food. This includes things like fruit, grahm crackers, whole grains and chicken, oh... and sometimes soup. Anyways, I go home an portion everything out in small ziploc bags. I plan my days to eat one of these small portions about every three hours. This way, I am not staving myself until dinnertime, and not overeating to compensate for earlier in the day. Also, one very simple rule: No eating after 8:00pm (unless if is a speical occasion) And drink lots of water!!! Hope this helps. And please don't rely on diet pills!

LV40
02-15-2005, 05:06 PM
Hi there.
I have he same problem you do, I feel like if my hand is not in a box of Teddy Grahms or around a sandwich, I am starving! Fortunalty, I have come up with a solution that has helped me lose about 10 lbs since Christmas. (I weight 125 now) First, I do work out 3-4 times a week, that is a good start. When ever I go to the grocery store, I only buy two bag of food. This includes things like fruit, grahm crackers, whole grains and chicken, oh... and sometimes soup. Anyways, I go home an portion everything out in small ziploc bags. I plan my days to eat one of these small portions about every three hours. This way, I am not staving myself until dinnertime,
What a great idea, thanks for sharing that :)

caliann24
02-15-2005, 05:15 PM
It really is about protion control, an NOT OBSESSING about every thing you put in your mouth... Don't feel you need to make a check list about what you eat... relax... go with the flow, and don't get stressed if you ate one too many Triscuts. I just ate about 6 pieces of Valentine's chocolate (and I am only now acknowloging it 'cause we are on the subject) Otherwise, i would have just gone on with my daily routine, went to work out later... and been happy that I got to eat chocalate today. Anyways, I'm not saying you can eat junk food all the time, but you can enjoy it now and then, that way you don't make yourself go crazy with restricitons. More depravation = Less motivation. Balance!

LV40
02-15-2005, 05:36 PM
Depriving yourself doesn't work, that's one thing I've discovered during my lifestyle change. Like I said, I've lost almost 55 pounds since June. Granted, I don't eat the foods I used to, but I allow myself the occasional treat of something I used to love eating. I still eat the occasional fast food treat, it's just I do it rarely and I've changed how I order things. No cheese, no sauces, nothing deep-fried ever, etc. I refuse to go the rest of my life without ever eating Taco Bell again and I know now that I don't have to. But now it's an occasional treat, rather than several times a week like it used to be.

This isn't a diet for me, it's a lifestyle change. Something I'll have to stick with for the rest of my living days. And part of what makes a lifestyle change successful is NOT depriving yourself. Because then the whole thing just seems so hopeless.

The way I eat, what I eat, and how much is something I've 'mastered' in the last 8 months. I've discovered I really don't NEED all of that food to make me happy. I don't eat until I'm full, I eat until I'm no longer hungry.

tia2
02-15-2005, 05:36 PM
This is exactly what I was looking for......support. How in the world do you go every 3 hours? I want to snack every hour! I'm on my 7 days off now from work this month, and this is when it is the worst for me...too much time on my hands, but I'm going to try your suggestions!

caliann24
02-15-2005, 05:54 PM
It's okay to eat every hour, just make the portions smaller. Sometimes, if I don't make it every three hours, I will eat half of my back of Cheerio's to split the difference. Don't think you have to plan 3 big meals a day, eat small, nutritious stuff. If you have a dinner planned cut out some of the snacks and drink lots of water in the afternoon. But still be careful not to over eat at dinner. if you are eating out... ask the waiter to box up half of the meal before they bring it out. it sounds really snobby, but restaurant portions are 2 even 3 times waht we really need. You won't look like a anal dieter, you will look smart! Promise, I have had friends compliment me on that! And, the biggest problem for over eaters, is boredom. Find stuff to do... Sometimes when I am bored, and want to eat, I call my mom, cause I know that will take up a sufficient amount of time... Plus, she (or whoever) will be glad to hear form you. Think less about food, and more about your life in general.

Cali

LV40
02-15-2005, 05:55 PM
This is exactly what I was looking for......support. How in the world do you go every 3 hours? I want to snack every hour!
Well, just as portion control is important, so is SELF-control. It's just something you have to work on, hon, it's not going to happen overnight, so don't stress yourself out over it.

This is why counting calories has worked the best for me because I know how much I can eat throughout the day without second-guessing myself all the time. Like always thinking that I'd really like to have that sandwich, but will I go over my calories for the day? By keeping track of what (and how much) I eat I don't have to play that game anymore. Now I can say, "Yes! I have enough calorie room to have that sandwich! Eat!"

I space my meals out so I don't blow all of my calories early in the day and then spend the rest of the night starving to death.

If you decide to take my suggestion of finding your calorie range, just do a search on "calorie calculators" and take a looksie. Or if you want, I can find out for you. But I'd need your age, weight, height and activity level - like are you lightly active (normal, everyday activities) moderately active (exercise 3-4 times a week) extremely active (frequent, vigorous exercise) etc.

tia2
02-15-2005, 06:07 PM
I'm 38, 5'4 1/2" 130lbs Moderately active...took my dogs on a 2 mile (vigorous) walk this morning...I have 2 horses also, so will be out later today doing barn chores.
Would you check for me? I think I checked and it said I expend 2200ish? calories per day, but I guess I didn't trust it.

LV40
02-15-2005, 06:18 PM
I'm getting 1980 for moderately active. So to lose about a pound a week, you would need to stick to about 1480 calories a day.

Now, for VERY active, I too am getting about 2244. That's vigorous exercise more than 4 times a week. Moderately active is vigorous exercise 3-4 times a week. So it really depends on your activity level.

If you're VERY active and drop to 1480 calories a day, you'd probably end up losing 1-1/2 to 2 pounds a week, but I wouldn't go any lower than that on calories, especially if you exercise regularly.

tia2
02-15-2005, 07:19 PM
okay, 1400 it is...thanks for doing that for me. Maybe that is why I'm not seeing results...I've reduced my intake too much. I don't crave sweets too often, aside from the cookies earlier, I don't really want that all the time....jello or an apple would curb that, and it did. Oh, I hope I see results soon..I know that in itself will help keep me on the right track.

Cali, I'll try the restaurant tip too.
I just had half a bag of organic broccoli and I'm full....is it ok If I don't have protien for dinner tonight? Sorry for all the seemingly stupid questions, I guess I didn't realize how much I needed my hand held!!

LV40
02-15-2005, 09:00 PM
Yes, you have to make sure you're eating enough or you're just depriving yourself of nutrients.

I don't really believe in the starvation mode theory, because if you deprive your body of calories long enough, you WILL lose weight. But there's a downside to it... if you're not eating enough nutrients, your body will not only start feeding off of your fat, but off of your muscle and bone as well.





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