leonna
02-23-2005, 05:11 PM
i cant take this much more.
i have so many thoughts,which cause me so much stress,and makes me feel so bad. and it all builds up,and i feel like im trapped..then i end up snapping at everyone around me,when im stressed about something. and i cant help it. i feel so guilty after,but i cant stop myself,i think there is no point in being nice anymore,if all i am here for is to think these nasty ****ed up thoughts,i dont think i can keep it up much longer :confused:
i have so many thoughts,which cause me so much stress,and makes me feel so bad. and it all builds up,and i feel like im trapped..then i end up snapping at everyone around me,when im stressed about something. and i cant help it. i feel so guilty after,but i cant stop myself,i think there is no point in being nice anymore,if all i am here for is to think these nasty ****ed up thoughts,i dont think i can keep it up much longer :confused:
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strange86
02-23-2005, 05:43 PM
I'm not sure what to say, because I know when I'm at my worst that rationality seems to be elsewhere. It's easy to say "Let go of the OCD," which is what seems best to do. But in times when everything seems to be falling apart, that doesn't seem to quite do the job to comfort. But through all of my bad experiences, when I thought I'd never be forgiven by God, when I thought I would do something bad, etc., one thing always remained true--God allowed me to move on. Everytime. Remember that--it will get better.
smokingun35
02-23-2005, 07:19 PM
i cant take this much more.
i have so many thoughts,which cause me so much stress,and makes me feel so bad. and it all builds up,and i feel like im trapped..then i end up snapping at everyone around me,when im stressed about something. and i cant help it. i feel so guilty after,but i cant stop myself,i think there is no point in being nice anymore,if all i am here for is to think these nasty ****ed up thoughts,i dont think i can keep it up much longer :confused:
Hi..My 14 yr old son is pretty much at the point you seem to be. He can't go to school because of the thoughts and it's driving him crazy. He has started taking Lexapro with some minor progress from the 10mg dose but not much. our next step after increasing the dosage on Lexapro will probably be Anafranil. If that doesn't work we will have to admit him....He gets so violent when he has the uncontrollable thoughts that we are scared that he is close to harming himself. I am trying my best to get him to correspond by email with another young person so he could actually believe he's not alone in this but have yet to get that done. I just wanted to let you know that you are not by yourself for what its worth.
i have so many thoughts,which cause me so much stress,and makes me feel so bad. and it all builds up,and i feel like im trapped..then i end up snapping at everyone around me,when im stressed about something. and i cant help it. i feel so guilty after,but i cant stop myself,i think there is no point in being nice anymore,if all i am here for is to think these nasty ****ed up thoughts,i dont think i can keep it up much longer :confused:
Hi..My 14 yr old son is pretty much at the point you seem to be. He can't go to school because of the thoughts and it's driving him crazy. He has started taking Lexapro with some minor progress from the 10mg dose but not much. our next step after increasing the dosage on Lexapro will probably be Anafranil. If that doesn't work we will have to admit him....He gets so violent when he has the uncontrollable thoughts that we are scared that he is close to harming himself. I am trying my best to get him to correspond by email with another young person so he could actually believe he's not alone in this but have yet to get that done. I just wanted to let you know that you are not by yourself for what its worth.
Yog-Sothoth
02-24-2005, 02:18 AM
Ah, I'm still learning about OCD and everything, so if I were to give you advice, it'd probably be the wrong thing. So the least I can do is say that we're all rooting for you. :)
Meta_morphosis
02-24-2005, 12:19 PM
You have probably been told this before, but you are not responsible for these thoughts, and you should not feel guilty about them. You are a good person, and these thoughts are not from you, that I can guarantee you, no matter what the OCD is trying to convince you of. I understand your pain, and I will continue to pray for you.
basal1999
02-24-2005, 01:00 PM
i just want to let you know you are NOT alone!!
i have harming thoughts and have been on paxil for 4 years.
i do very well but have bad weeks here and there.
i have xanex as needed.
are you on any meds, do you have a benzo as needed? since it's not
actually the thought, but the anxiety it produces maybe you should
speak to someone about getting a benzo..
this is truly the pits!!!!!
have you read any books on the subject??
will check back,
kris
i have harming thoughts and have been on paxil for 4 years.
i do very well but have bad weeks here and there.
i have xanex as needed.
are you on any meds, do you have a benzo as needed? since it's not
actually the thought, but the anxiety it produces maybe you should
speak to someone about getting a benzo..
this is truly the pits!!!!!
have you read any books on the subject??
will check back,
kris
leonna
02-24-2005, 04:24 PM
i just want to let you know you are NOT alone!!
i have harming thoughts and have been on paxil for 4 years.
i do very well but have bad weeks here and there.
i have xanex as needed.
are you on any meds, do you have a benzo as needed? since it's not
actually the thought, but the anxiety it produces maybe you should
speak to someone about getting a benzo..
this is truly the pits!!!!!
have you read any books on the subject??
will check back,
kris
Hiya,No im not on any medication,and i dont wanna go on any,im on three lots at the moment due to other stuff,and i will probley have to take them for the rest of my life,i dont wanna be taking even more.
my head is just messed up,i dont think its going to get better.
i havent read any books,i dont see how they will help to be totally honest, :( today i was out in the snow nearly all day with my cousin,and i hardly had any thoughts,but as soon as i was trying to relax,they came bk.
im tense none stop
i have harming thoughts and have been on paxil for 4 years.
i do very well but have bad weeks here and there.
i have xanex as needed.
are you on any meds, do you have a benzo as needed? since it's not
actually the thought, but the anxiety it produces maybe you should
speak to someone about getting a benzo..
this is truly the pits!!!!!
have you read any books on the subject??
will check back,
kris
Hiya,No im not on any medication,and i dont wanna go on any,im on three lots at the moment due to other stuff,and i will probley have to take them for the rest of my life,i dont wanna be taking even more.
my head is just messed up,i dont think its going to get better.
i havent read any books,i dont see how they will help to be totally honest, :( today i was out in the snow nearly all day with my cousin,and i hardly had any thoughts,but as soon as i was trying to relax,they came bk.
im tense none stop
Pillowtalkk
02-24-2005, 06:34 PM
i know you said you dont want to be on any more medicines but honestly i think you would see night and day with how you feel. I dont know exactly how you feel, my son and i have OCD but night the mean thought ones , well at least i dont and he hasnt said he did. But since we have been on medicine its a world of a difference. Normally i wouldnt tell you that you should get on some but if you have thoughts of doing something to yourself or others i think you should give them a try. Acting on it would only make things worse for yourself . If you dont want to try medicine have you thought of getting hospitalized or talking to a Doctor? I hate seeing that someone feels like this because like i said i have other things that can drive me crazy sometimes and i hate it , sounds like you are a very bright good person so hang in there. Does anyone in your family know this about you ?
basal1999
02-24-2005, 08:32 PM
this is a post that i have saved (among others) that comforts me.
Intrusive thoughts are really nothing more than random thoughts that everyone has at one time or another. The only difference is that in an anxiety or fatigued state they tend to stick there. The harder you fight for them to go away, the stronger they become. The more afraid you are of them, the more they stay. One must learn to relax with these thoughts - however awful they might seem - and realize that they are only thoughts. Because you are so afraid of them or bothered by them is proof that you will not act on them. The truly insane person does not know that his thoughts are strange. And, no, you do not go crazy from anxiety. May I suggest that you read Dr. Claire Weeks - Hope and Help For Your Nerves for a better understanding of this. Simple, easy to read and understand, very reassuring, and available in paperback form in book stores or on ***********.
(end of saved post)
from me:
i DID NOT want to go on meds!! but i am SO glad that i did!
i don't know what else you are on...but i am an insulin dependent
diabetic and take insulin and i have a 4yo with cerebral palsy, i have
enough medical drama going on in this house. the difference really
is night and day.......can you give a temporary try and say that within
6 months you will wean yourself after you get a better handle on the
situation?? or maybe even xanex, etc.. as needed, your brain NEEDS a
rest!!
when my son was born, i wished for cancer instead of what
i went thru with these thoughts, I KNOW how you feel and how
you are suffering.....sometimes the brain chemistry needs help
from meds..
it's like a diabetic needs insulin :)
please let me know what you decide,
kris - who still fights taking MORE meds, when i have a panicky day,
i fight the 1/2 xanex and it is so stupid!
Intrusive thoughts are really nothing more than random thoughts that everyone has at one time or another. The only difference is that in an anxiety or fatigued state they tend to stick there. The harder you fight for them to go away, the stronger they become. The more afraid you are of them, the more they stay. One must learn to relax with these thoughts - however awful they might seem - and realize that they are only thoughts. Because you are so afraid of them or bothered by them is proof that you will not act on them. The truly insane person does not know that his thoughts are strange. And, no, you do not go crazy from anxiety. May I suggest that you read Dr. Claire Weeks - Hope and Help For Your Nerves for a better understanding of this. Simple, easy to read and understand, very reassuring, and available in paperback form in book stores or on ***********.
(end of saved post)
from me:
i DID NOT want to go on meds!! but i am SO glad that i did!
i don't know what else you are on...but i am an insulin dependent
diabetic and take insulin and i have a 4yo with cerebral palsy, i have
enough medical drama going on in this house. the difference really
is night and day.......can you give a temporary try and say that within
6 months you will wean yourself after you get a better handle on the
situation?? or maybe even xanex, etc.. as needed, your brain NEEDS a
rest!!
when my son was born, i wished for cancer instead of what
i went thru with these thoughts, I KNOW how you feel and how
you are suffering.....sometimes the brain chemistry needs help
from meds..
it's like a diabetic needs insulin :)
please let me know what you decide,
kris - who still fights taking MORE meds, when i have a panicky day,
i fight the 1/2 xanex and it is so stupid!
leonna
02-25-2005, 05:35 AM
i know you said you dont want to be on any more medicines but honestly i think you would see night and day with how you feel. I dont know exactly how you feel, my son and i have OCD but night the mean thought ones , well at least i dont and he hasnt said he did. But since we have been on medicine its a world of a difference. Normally i wouldnt tell you that you should get on some but if you have thoughts of doing something to yourself or others i think you should give them a try. Acting on it would only make things worse for yourself . If you dont want to try medicine have you thought of getting hospitalized or talking to a Doctor? I hate seeing that someone feels like this because like i said i have other things that can drive me crazy sometimes and i hate it , sounds like you are a very bright good person so hang in there. Does anyone in your family know this about you ?
Thanks for the post....erm,it didnt help to be honest tho .. acting on them would make things worse for me? i would NEVER EVER act on them! i would rather die then hurt someone or something =/ but,when i have the thoughts,something inside me thinks 'what if you do act on them ? ' but,i WONT!. also,saying about me getting hospitalized? i have a phobia of hospitals! and a phobia of going mental,and you saying that,makes me feel like im mental.
i know your trying to help,but it really does not help me.
i come on here for advice and stuff i know,but what you have said has made me feel even worse.
Thanks for the post....erm,it didnt help to be honest tho .. acting on them would make things worse for me? i would NEVER EVER act on them! i would rather die then hurt someone or something =/ but,when i have the thoughts,something inside me thinks 'what if you do act on them ? ' but,i WONT!. also,saying about me getting hospitalized? i have a phobia of hospitals! and a phobia of going mental,and you saying that,makes me feel like im mental.
i know your trying to help,but it really does not help me.
i come on here for advice and stuff i know,but what you have said has made me feel even worse.
leonna
02-25-2005, 05:39 AM
this is a post that i have saved (among others) that comforts me.
Intrusive thoughts are really nothing more than random thoughts that everyone has at one time or another. The only difference is that in an anxiety or fatigued state they tend to stick there. The harder you fight for them to go away, the stronger they become. The more afraid you are of them, the more they stay. One must learn to relax with these thoughts - however awful they might seem - and realize that they are only thoughts. Because you are so afraid of them or bothered by them is proof that you will not act on them. The truly insane person does not know that his thoughts are strange. And, no, you do not go crazy from anxiety. May I suggest that you read Dr. Claire Weeks - Hope and Help For Your Nerves for a better understanding of this. Simple, easy to read and understand, very reassuring, and available in paperback form in book stores or on ***********.
(end of saved post)
from me:
i DID NOT want to go on meds!! but i am SO glad that i did!
i don't know what else you are on...but i am an insulin dependent
diabetic and take insulin and i have a 4yo with cerebral palsy, i have
enough medical drama going on in this house. the difference really
is night and day.......can you give a temporary try and say that within
6 months you will wean yourself after you get a better handle on the
situation?? or maybe even xanex, etc.. as needed, your brain NEEDS a
rest!!
when my son was born, i wished for cancer instead of what
i went thru with these thoughts, I KNOW how you feel and how
you are suffering.....sometimes the brain chemistry needs help
from meds..
it's like a diabetic needs insulin :)
please let me know what you decide,
kris - who still fights taking MORE meds, when i have a panicky day,
i fight the 1/2 xanex and it is so stupid!
i know how you feel,i obsess over getting cancer or dying,but now.i just think 'yea,but if it happens,it happens,i would rather something bad happen 2 me then to have these thoughts all the time!'
im scared of going on tablets,i dont want to :(
im on so many,and if you get put on the wrong tablets,you could get even worse? ah! i dunno what to do,i might tell another doctor,the one who comes out to see me is ok,he trys..but,to be honest it just makes me even more depressed when he goes.
Intrusive thoughts are really nothing more than random thoughts that everyone has at one time or another. The only difference is that in an anxiety or fatigued state they tend to stick there. The harder you fight for them to go away, the stronger they become. The more afraid you are of them, the more they stay. One must learn to relax with these thoughts - however awful they might seem - and realize that they are only thoughts. Because you are so afraid of them or bothered by them is proof that you will not act on them. The truly insane person does not know that his thoughts are strange. And, no, you do not go crazy from anxiety. May I suggest that you read Dr. Claire Weeks - Hope and Help For Your Nerves for a better understanding of this. Simple, easy to read and understand, very reassuring, and available in paperback form in book stores or on ***********.
(end of saved post)
from me:
i DID NOT want to go on meds!! but i am SO glad that i did!
i don't know what else you are on...but i am an insulin dependent
diabetic and take insulin and i have a 4yo with cerebral palsy, i have
enough medical drama going on in this house. the difference really
is night and day.......can you give a temporary try and say that within
6 months you will wean yourself after you get a better handle on the
situation?? or maybe even xanex, etc.. as needed, your brain NEEDS a
rest!!
when my son was born, i wished for cancer instead of what
i went thru with these thoughts, I KNOW how you feel and how
you are suffering.....sometimes the brain chemistry needs help
from meds..
it's like a diabetic needs insulin :)
please let me know what you decide,
kris - who still fights taking MORE meds, when i have a panicky day,
i fight the 1/2 xanex and it is so stupid!
i know how you feel,i obsess over getting cancer or dying,but now.i just think 'yea,but if it happens,it happens,i would rather something bad happen 2 me then to have these thoughts all the time!'
im scared of going on tablets,i dont want to :(
im on so many,and if you get put on the wrong tablets,you could get even worse? ah! i dunno what to do,i might tell another doctor,the one who comes out to see me is ok,he trys..but,to be honest it just makes me even more depressed when he goes.
Pillowtalkk
02-25-2005, 09:27 AM
Thanks for the post....erm,it didnt help to be honest tho .. acting on them would make things worse for me? i would NEVER EVER act on them! i would rather die then hurt someone or something =/ but,when i have the thoughts,something inside me thinks 'what if you do act on them ? ' but,i WONT!. also,saying about me getting hospitalized? i have a phobia of hospitals! and a phobia of going mental,and you saying that,makes me feel like im mental.
i know your trying to help,but it really does not help me.
i come on here for advice and stuff i know,but what you have said has made me feel even worse................................... ........................................ ......................
I didnt mean to make you feel worse the point of the reply was maybe medicine or talking to a doctor would help? get it?
and getting hospitalized does not make you mental , i know alot who had to go that route for help and would be mad as hell if someone said they was mental. they just relized their thoughts needed some attention by doctors and friends for that matter.BUT i do understand you have a phobia of hospitals my mom did too and i know she didnt wantto go there for anything. Sometimes what people write in a post might come out the wrong way if you know what i mean in my case it did BUT in others cases they might say something to make the person see how bad they need help. I know alot of people who does have the same thought as you ALOT of OCD'ers do. i only mentioned it hoping you might would give medicine a try it did help them and did does help me but this is something you live with everyday so you prolly know whats best for you. If you was mental you wouldnt want help or even know it was wrong to have the thoughts. everyone comes here wants or needs advise sometime it hurts to say stuff or sometime it doesnt but thats the point of posting is trying to help. Most of people who have OCD needs some kind of help from a doctor, it just dont ever go away without help . Sorry to make you feel worse and i do wish you the best.
i know your trying to help,but it really does not help me.
i come on here for advice and stuff i know,but what you have said has made me feel even worse................................... ........................................ ......................
I didnt mean to make you feel worse the point of the reply was maybe medicine or talking to a doctor would help? get it?
and getting hospitalized does not make you mental , i know alot who had to go that route for help and would be mad as hell if someone said they was mental. they just relized their thoughts needed some attention by doctors and friends for that matter.BUT i do understand you have a phobia of hospitals my mom did too and i know she didnt wantto go there for anything. Sometimes what people write in a post might come out the wrong way if you know what i mean in my case it did BUT in others cases they might say something to make the person see how bad they need help. I know alot of people who does have the same thought as you ALOT of OCD'ers do. i only mentioned it hoping you might would give medicine a try it did help them and did does help me but this is something you live with everyday so you prolly know whats best for you. If you was mental you wouldnt want help or even know it was wrong to have the thoughts. everyone comes here wants or needs advise sometime it hurts to say stuff or sometime it doesnt but thats the point of posting is trying to help. Most of people who have OCD needs some kind of help from a doctor, it just dont ever go away without help . Sorry to make you feel worse and i do wish you the best.
alchemical
02-26-2005, 07:33 PM
leonna,
i have a suggestion when you find yourself besieged by thoughts.
sit in a chair with your back straight. take three deep breaths slowely and relax the body. close your eyes and observe your thoughts. do not try to banish them or do anything with them. you may notice that thoughts rush in on you. your position to this flow of thought should be that of a silent observer, completely free and independent -- like you are watching tv. if the thoughts are disturbing just observe them with no judgement. focus on them one at a time. follow each thought to the next, even for fractions of a second. do this for five minutes or longer if needed. in the beginning you will be assaulted by these thoughts all at once but from one excersize to the next you will find these thoughts diminishing until only a few remain and appear less chaotically.
i have a suggestion when you find yourself besieged by thoughts.
sit in a chair with your back straight. take three deep breaths slowely and relax the body. close your eyes and observe your thoughts. do not try to banish them or do anything with them. you may notice that thoughts rush in on you. your position to this flow of thought should be that of a silent observer, completely free and independent -- like you are watching tv. if the thoughts are disturbing just observe them with no judgement. focus on them one at a time. follow each thought to the next, even for fractions of a second. do this for five minutes or longer if needed. in the beginning you will be assaulted by these thoughts all at once but from one excersize to the next you will find these thoughts diminishing until only a few remain and appear less chaotically.
Pres
03-11-2005, 12:33 AM
I just skimmed through a couple of posts here, and I must say I am very eager to meet some people displaying similar symptoms to those which I feel I also possess..
I have had certain uncontrollable thoughts, aproximately since I was in 6th grade. I used to find them easier to keep at bay while in school because of all the constant distractions around me, but all the time these thoughts transform and seem to become harder to control.
At first I was going to post on this forum a detailed explanation of what I have felt over the years, but it came out sounding too crazy for a first post. So hello to everyone, and let me just say, I don't know if I have OCD but it's been the most probable self diagnosis I have made yet..
- Pres
I have had certain uncontrollable thoughts, aproximately since I was in 6th grade. I used to find them easier to keep at bay while in school because of all the constant distractions around me, but all the time these thoughts transform and seem to become harder to control.
At first I was going to post on this forum a detailed explanation of what I have felt over the years, but it came out sounding too crazy for a first post. So hello to everyone, and let me just say, I don't know if I have OCD but it's been the most probable self diagnosis I have made yet..
- Pres
dgold
03-11-2005, 04:00 AM
Try luvox first then anafranil last. The side effects for anafranil are very bad. Luvox can work as well with alot less side effects.
Believe me I know what you all are going through!!! horrible I know...
Believe me I know what you all are going through!!! horrible I know...
Stumper
03-11-2005, 10:41 PM
Anafranil is a very good medication.
Medications have "individualistic" natures to them. It has a very high success rate, higher than all other antidepressants.
My boy uses it and has had 0 side affects other than a racing heart at first which quickly went away as the doc told us.
Medications have "individualistic" natures to them. It has a very high success rate, higher than all other antidepressants.
My boy uses it and has had 0 side affects other than a racing heart at first which quickly went away as the doc told us.