jaymz
03-14-2005, 12:44 AM
hi all, 2 weeks ago i had an acdf surgery with a donor bone and plate and screws, the pain is wanting me to check into the next life its so bad, my neurosurgeon is an idiot thats against painkillers, i took 4 -500mg vicodin to kill the pain and it did not touch it anyone have any ideas cuz i cant deal with this much longer, in the spinal board , people with same surgery are doing fine after 2 weeks, i am only getting worse any help would be great ty peace jaymz.....
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scotty12
03-14-2005, 01:09 AM
If it were me just a couple of weeks post op id try and get the meds from my GP.if this idiot who operated on you doesnt care that his patient is suffering,to hell with him.
He knows how invasive a fusion surgery is.it is quite traumatic to the body and it takes time for the nerves to calm down and tissue to heal.
He Just Doesnt Care.
It is absurd that he wont even rx you percs for a few weeks.
im sorry you are suffering.hope you heal quick. scott
He knows how invasive a fusion surgery is.it is quite traumatic to the body and it takes time for the nerves to calm down and tissue to heal.
He Just Doesnt Care.
It is absurd that he wont even rx you percs for a few weeks.
im sorry you are suffering.hope you heal quick. scott
Shoreline
03-14-2005, 12:25 PM
Hey James, I understand thepain is what's concerning you the most and although the doc seems to thnk you should be jus fine, without takng your complaints seriously he can be overlooking some major problems.
You could have an infection, The donar bone could have slipped out of place because the hardware is attached to the vertabrea, not the donar bone to hold it in place. Screws placed into the pedicales can cause fractures. Rather than simply complaining about pain, I would ask this doc how does ehe know that something hasn't gone wrong. Have you had any foloow up with the NS yet or simply a couple scripts written or called in.
What dose of meds were you on prior to the surgery. If you were on a large dose of meds, the vicodin may not be effective and often folks that have been in pain mnagement for awhile r[prior to surgery have a much more difficult time managing post op pain. Surgeons don't always agree with PM docs and the meds your on and tecan be quick to get you off. If your experiencing withdrawal from a decrease in meds, that would ncrease your level of pain without anything being wrong.
If your NS is unresponsive when you ask him about the possibility of infectin or slippage or fractures, I would go to the ER and get some basic diagnostics done to check the integrety of the fusion and posibility of infection. If they can't find anything, they will likely give you something to relive the pain then and then follow up with your GP if the NS isn't going to be more helpful. But an increase in pain at the two week point could very well mean something has gone wrong an you need to be checked out. Simple Xrays and blood work can rule out infection or slipage of bone plugs or fractures from screw insertion.
I certainly wouldn't sit around and just suffer when you don't know if there is a problem and I certainly wouldn't check out when you may be feeling much better in a matter of weeks. You have to be proactive in your care and if your surgeon isn't willing to consider the possiblity of complications or surgical failure than you need someone that can at least evaluate what's going on. You can get an Ortho or NS consult at the ER and if there is a problem get it adressed by the doc that diagnosis the problem. If they can't find a problem than follow up with your GP and explain the situation.
Good luck, Dave
You could have an infection, The donar bone could have slipped out of place because the hardware is attached to the vertabrea, not the donar bone to hold it in place. Screws placed into the pedicales can cause fractures. Rather than simply complaining about pain, I would ask this doc how does ehe know that something hasn't gone wrong. Have you had any foloow up with the NS yet or simply a couple scripts written or called in.
What dose of meds were you on prior to the surgery. If you were on a large dose of meds, the vicodin may not be effective and often folks that have been in pain mnagement for awhile r[prior to surgery have a much more difficult time managing post op pain. Surgeons don't always agree with PM docs and the meds your on and tecan be quick to get you off. If your experiencing withdrawal from a decrease in meds, that would ncrease your level of pain without anything being wrong.
If your NS is unresponsive when you ask him about the possibility of infectin or slippage or fractures, I would go to the ER and get some basic diagnostics done to check the integrety of the fusion and posibility of infection. If they can't find anything, they will likely give you something to relive the pain then and then follow up with your GP if the NS isn't going to be more helpful. But an increase in pain at the two week point could very well mean something has gone wrong an you need to be checked out. Simple Xrays and blood work can rule out infection or slipage of bone plugs or fractures from screw insertion.
I certainly wouldn't sit around and just suffer when you don't know if there is a problem and I certainly wouldn't check out when you may be feeling much better in a matter of weeks. You have to be proactive in your care and if your surgeon isn't willing to consider the possiblity of complications or surgical failure than you need someone that can at least evaluate what's going on. You can get an Ortho or NS consult at the ER and if there is a problem get it adressed by the doc that diagnosis the problem. If they can't find a problem than follow up with your GP and explain the situation.
Good luck, Dave
terrienne
03-14-2005, 01:37 PM
jaymz,
I agree with Scott, about your Doctor !
I had a semilar experience a few years ago when I had knee surgery,
but there's no comparison, really.
It seems to me these Doctors tend to think they are way above their patients, think they are God, and have never had a pain in their lives.
At least this was the case with me.
My knee surgeon told me to go home and take Tylenol.......,
after he gave me the initial pain meds. for a brief period of time, errrrrrrrr,
I was most fortunate that my Father-in-Law (Doctor) was there for me.
Man, I can't comprehend what you are going through. I think I would be
screaming ' Morphine ' ! (I am serious !)
I hope you can find someone who will give you the meds., you need.
And, I hope you are better soon.
Gee Gee
I agree with Scott, about your Doctor !
I had a semilar experience a few years ago when I had knee surgery,
but there's no comparison, really.
It seems to me these Doctors tend to think they are way above their patients, think they are God, and have never had a pain in their lives.
At least this was the case with me.
My knee surgeon told me to go home and take Tylenol.......,
after he gave me the initial pain meds. for a brief period of time, errrrrrrrr,
I was most fortunate that my Father-in-Law (Doctor) was there for me.
Man, I can't comprehend what you are going through. I think I would be
screaming ' Morphine ' ! (I am serious !)
I hope you can find someone who will give you the meds., you need.
And, I hope you are better soon.
Gee Gee
jaymz
03-15-2005, 03:14 PM
ty all for replying, i cant get in to see NS until april 11th .they just call in these vicodin that do nothing, even in the hospital, while i was on the morphine it only killed the pain for 15 minutes, im just worried that something is wrong, maybe infection or fracture from the screws into my spine, i dont know, i dont think NS knows either, and to top it off ,before surgery it was just pain and numbness in my right side now its in my left side also and this awful burning in my upper back area and pain down to my toes but not all the time. it just hits me then goes away, but the burning never goes away , i am 4sure going to keep on fighting though! ty all peace jaymz.... :wave:
terrienne
03-15-2005, 09:16 PM
ty all for replying, i cant get in to see NS until april 11th .they just call in these vicodin that do nothing, even in the hospital, while i was on the morphine it only killed the pain for 15 minutes, im just worried that something is wrong, maybe infection or fracture from the screws into my spine, i dont know, i dont think NS knows either, and to top it off ,before surgery it was just pain and numbness in my right side now its in my left side also and this awful burning in my upper back area and pain down to my toes but not all the time. it just hits me then goes away, but the burning never goes away , i am 4sure going to keep on fighting though! ty all peace jaymz.... :wave:
:wave:
Hi again, from Gee Gee,
This sounds too hard for you to FIGHT ! I think this is of
GREAT CONCERN !
Do you have somebody to take you to the hospital ?
Take Care, and keep us posted........., ' peace '............,
Concerned.......,
Gee Gee
:wave:
Hi again, from Gee Gee,
This sounds too hard for you to FIGHT ! I think this is of
GREAT CONCERN !
Do you have somebody to take you to the hospital ?
Take Care, and keep us posted........., ' peace '............,
Concerned.......,
Gee Gee