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mgc000
03-24-2005, 03:28 AM
i had 2 wisdom teeth pulled on the right side of my mouth on monday. i slipped up and smoked like 2 cigarettes in the first 3 days and sealed the area with gauze before i did this and inhaled instead of sucking with my lips. the bottom impacted tooth that was removed does not hurt at all and has been covered by the clot except for maybe like 25 % of it towards the back. so i guess the 2 smokes didn't affect anything as i'm appraoching day 4 post op and still on soft foods. now my question is, even with that little part still not covering the whole left socket(i'm guessing it grows back over time), is it alright for me to smoke 2 or 3 cigarettes a day? i'm a very light smoker to begin with but i did smoke every day for years before the operation. my dentist has 4-5 days on the phamplet for smoking. some dentist websites say 48-78 and some even 24hours or weeks, i'm so confused. i had smoked two cigs like i said, but is it alright to smoke a cigarette or two now since i'm on my 4th day post op and have no pain? i've heard the cocky non-smokers reply, just stop all together. but come on guys i need a real awnser for us people who do smoke.

also i was wondering if it's normal to only have the clot cover the hole partially after 3 or 4 days. every day it covers more but sometimes when i eat it looks like it looses some then gains some the next day to 12 hours. i'm just so scared of getting the dreaded dry socket and wanna play it safe :(

katch22
03-24-2005, 01:56 PM
hi. im on day 7. im a smoker, and have suffered through almost a week of no cigarettes. you should suffer too! just kidding.

honestly, i have been calling non stop to harrass my surgeon about the smoking. i have sufffered 3 emotional breakdowns from not having cigarettes...i sometimes wonder if dry socket can be as bad as THIS!

my surgeon told me that apprx. 5% of people get dry socket, but it goes up to over half with smokers. that was enough to scare me.

if i were you, i wouldnt smoke for a couple days. its interesting that you can actually see the clot -- i cant see **** in the back of my mouth. but i have heard of people mention "partial dry socket"....which sounds like what you might have. the clot will probably reform if you lay off the smoking. smoking seriously slows down healing.

another thing to keep in mind. dry socket is not the end of the world. it cant be fixed, only pain can be treated. so if you have it now, but are not in intense pain...there really isnt a problem.

i would get a nicotine patch. it will help a lot. the anxiety you will have about whether or not smoking is going to cause a problem is probably worse than the anxiety of going without a cigarette...

mgc000
03-24-2005, 05:02 PM
hi. im on day 7. im a smoker, and have suffered through almost a week of no cigarettes. you should suffer too! just kidding.

honestly, i have been calling non stop to harrass my surgeon about the smoking. i have sufffered 3 emotional breakdowns from not having cigarettes...i sometimes wonder if dry socket can be as bad as THIS!

my surgeon told me that apprx. 5% of people get dry socket, but it goes up to over half with smokers. that was enough to scare me.

if i were you, i wouldnt smoke for a couple days. its interesting that you can actually see the clot -- i cant see **** in the back of my mouth. but i have heard of people mention "partial dry socket"....which sounds like what you might have. the clot will probably reform if you lay off the smoking. smoking seriously slows down healing.

another thing to keep in mind. dry socket is not the end of the world. it cant be fixed, only pain can be treated. so if you have it now, but are not in intense pain...there really isnt a problem.

i would get a nicotine patch. it will help a lot. the anxiety you will have about whether or not smoking is going to cause a problem is probably worse than the anxiety of going without a cigarette...




true, true... i think i'm gonna get a patch or something. is it just me or does prescrption pain killers like percocet make the cigarette withdraws worse? i don't know if this is bad or not but i woke up today and i have no pain, a ****** taste in my mouth, the clot looks like it has sunken in the hole but it looks like it healed a little more in some parts in the back. i'm guessing it's alright since no pain is really present but i' not smokong anymore! hopefully that will speed up the healing process. hell, maybe if i wouldn't have smoked i'd be smoking tomorrow or saturday and screwed myself out of it now.

from what i understand about the dry socket pain it's when the whole socket gets washed away prematurely but having partially dry socket or not being fully healed doesn't necessarly mean great pain and the longer left alone the faster it heals back to normal.. it's just the pain that posses the problem from there being no clot present at alll. it' feels like i'm having to carry a box that says, be very carefull fragile glass may break in my mouth or something all the time lol, it's nerve racking.

katch22
03-24-2005, 05:38 PM
what you described sounds like dry socket (the bad taste). some people have mild pain with it you know. its not always excrutiating....use salt water too! after you eat, smoke, anything...rinse with warm salt water.

and as i said before, dry socket can't be "treated" -- only the pain can. so if your not having pain, no biggie.

but to keep that from getting worse you should lay of the stogies. you dont sound like you smoke too much. i down a pack a day, so two 21 mg patches work real nice.

this has been the worst physical thing i have ever gone through. pain is not an issue -- nothing hurts really. its just WAITING.

you cant kiss. you cant eat. you cant drink beer. you cant smoke. you use narcotic pain killers, so you cant drive or operate heavy machinery. you just have to spend a week in the house as an invalid watching court tv and other tv garbage. its MISERABLE.

[Please refrain from using cuss/slang words. Saying something like "other tv garbage" is better. Thanks - Well-come Moderator.]

mgc000
03-24-2005, 05:52 PM
what you described sounds like dry socket (the bad taste). some people have mild pain with it you know. its not always excrutiating....use salt water too! after you eat, smoke, anything...rinse with warm salt water.

and as i said before, dry socket can't be "treated" -- only the pain can. so if your not having pain, no biggie.

but to keep that from getting worse you should lay of the stogies. you dont sound like you smoke too much. i down a pack a day, so two 21 mg patches work real nice.

this has been the worst physical thing i have ever gone through. pain is not an issue -- nothing hurts really. its just WAITING.

you cant kiss. you cant eat. you cant drink beer. you cant smoke. you use narcotic pain killers, so you cant drive or operate heavy machinery. you just have to spend a week in the house as an invalid watching court tv and crap. its MISERABLE.


yeah i thought the smoke from smoking itself wasn't the real health problem and that it was nicotine becasue like beer or hard liquir it restricts blood not allowing the clot to from right. so i think you have risks too if you have a patch. the best thing i guess is to go cold turkey. i actually went cold turkey 2 months ago for 8 days, it was insane! but what actually helped me not smoke was good excercise and when i got pissed as all hell i'd play on my drum set or go jam with my band for like 6 hours... that helped more than anyhting, to bang on those drums for hours lol. i might have go set my kit up and work my agitaion out!

katch22
03-24-2005, 05:59 PM
i asked the doc about that. he said the wound coming into contact with nicotine is the problem, and patches will be fine.

the first four days, i was loaded on darvocet, so i spent the entire time sleeping or staring at the wall. the bad part was the darvocet is ADDICTIVE. so when i stopped taking it day 5, i had withdrawls and a nervous breakdown.

when i am aggitated, i smoke. that is what works. i have tried to quit in the past, and i ended up just being an aggitated b*tch.

mgc000
03-24-2005, 06:42 PM
i asked the doc about that. he said the wound coming into contact with nicotine is the problem, and patches will be fine.

the first four days, i was loaded on darvocet, so i spent the entire time sleeping or staring at the wall. the bad part was the darvocet is ADDICTIVE. so when i stopped taking it day 5, i had withdrawls and a nervous breakdown.

when i am aggitated, i smoke. that is what works. i have tried to quit in the past, and i ended up just being an aggitated b*tch.

that's good to hear about the nicotine patches :) do you know if you can buy them in singles or if you have to buy the whole kit for $50 + dollars ?

i was put on pain killers before i had them removed becasue one cracked and it was painful. it was kinda a last minute emergency removal. i didn't plan on having them removed until one day i woke up with a horrible tooth ache. but i've been on pain killers for two weeks now starting on vicodin 7.5 and uped to oxycondone 10mg. by saturday i wil have gone through 60 pills in two weeks taken as prescribed every day. soooo yeah the withdraw is gonna be great fun. i'm bracing myself for the cold sweats at night and agitation after my prescription is up :(

katch22
03-24-2005, 07:11 PM
you can get generic patches, 1 weeks worth, for about $25.

i cant take vicodin. they originally gave me vicodin, but when i tested it out, i hurled. so my boyfriend took a few recreationally, and afterwards he was a total jerk.

just dont stop taking them until you can smoke again!

mgc000
03-24-2005, 07:19 PM
you can get generic patches, 1 weeks worth, for about $25.

i cant take vicodin. they originally gave me vicodin, but when i tested it out, i hurled. so my boyfriend took a few recreationally, and afterwards he was a total jerk.

just dont stop taking them until you can smoke again!



haha yeah i was going to stop taking them today and save them for a rainy day ;) but man if i can't smoke it would just make it worse. i only have like 2-3 days worth of pills left but that's at least 2-3 days i can quite smoking for. my mom just went to walgreens to pick some nicotine patches up for me. they are pretty cheap these days, only $21 for like 8. they use to be $50 or so back in the day. i really hope the patch works, it's been so long since i tried it. i just remember that if i didn't take it off at night i would get the craziest nightmares.

katch22
03-24-2005, 07:50 PM
nightmares. interesting -- i actually left my patch on last night and had crazy dreams. that must be why.

when you put the patch on RUB like holy hell. its not going to make you feel satisfied, but it will ease the cravings a little.

im going to smoke tonight for the first time in nearly a week. i will think of you when i take my first drag.

dosvedanya!

mgc000
03-24-2005, 08:48 PM
nightmares. interesting -- i actually left my patch on last night and had crazy dreams. that must be why.

when you put the patch on RUB like holy hell. its not going to make you feel satisfied, but it will ease the cravings a little.

im going to smoke tonight for the first time in nearly a week. i will think of you when i take my first drag.

dosvedanya!

oh my god i put on the nicotine patch like an hour ago and it has cut my cravings by about 50%! i still have em but boy do i feel better :) i just hope the nicotine patch doesn't **** my blood flow up and screw the clot up. i still have minor aches in my teeth and hopefully it will go away by tomorrow. if they worsen i'm staying on the patch and going back to the dentist asap to get checked and get more meds.

noobie
03-24-2005, 10:23 PM
Dang, ya'll are crazy!! Good Job on NOT smoking!!! LOL, Tuesday morning I had all of my upper teeth pulled along with my top wisdom teeth. (I did get an immediate denture though). I've been smoking since 5 hours post op. I can't help it. My mouth is fine, actually it doesn't hurt at all anymore and it's only been 64 hours!! Ya!! So good job man, I thought that this would be the time to quit smoking altogether but ofcourse I didn't. =(

mgc000
03-24-2005, 10:40 PM
Dang, ya'll are crazy!! Good Job on NOT smoking!!! LOL, Tuesday morning I had all of my upper teeth pulled along with my top wisdom teeth. (I did get an immediate denture though). I've been smoking since 5 hours post op. I can't help it. My mouth is fine, actually it doesn't hurt at all anymore and it's only been 64 hours!! Ya!! So good job man, I thought that this would be the time to quit smoking altogether but ofcourse I didn't. =(


yeah my mouth pretty much stopped hurting the second day post op. i'm still eating soft foods and playing it safe though. i turns out i'm healing normal and maybe overreacting a bit lol. but dry socket can develop if you smoke the first 5 days post op, so i'd be careful. so far the patch is working and it's woth it not to smoke. the anxiety about having complications is worse than not smoking with the patch for me. hope everything heals and goes well man, best of luck to yah :)

mgc000
03-25-2005, 11:01 PM
well, i switched to the nicotine patch last night and after i did that late last night i got a really bad acidy taste in my mouth. now there is a big gaping whole where there use to be white gum stuff forming over it. there is no pain however, so i'm not really sure if i have dry socket or not. when i did smoke with the gause over my mouth i had maybe 1 to 2 smokes a day and the whole stayed covered but after i stoped and used the patch this happened. i'm wondering if the nicotine itself screwed up the blood flow or if this is normal. the patch was a 15mg one and that's way more than i smoke in a usual day. whatever was covering it looks like it fell deep into the socket. i had a little tingly sensation in my mouth and tounge when it started but no extreme pain more like agitation. so i guess i'm screwed either way patch or no patch unless it's normal for this to happen. can anyone give me some advice as to how this might have happend and if this is normal healing and not a dry socket? i just hope i don't wake up tomorrow in extreme pain :(

 
 
 




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