jencat
03-24-2005, 09:08 AM
I am allergic to codeine, including hydrocodone, also allergic to morphine. Currently using Lipoderm patches (very ineffective) and lots of darvocet, but the darvocet is working less & less, also take tramadol for FMS, but that doesn't do much. Are their any alternative drugs I could discuss w/my PM dr? I have FMS, and a badly herniated C7, with bulging C5&6 (surgery not an option for this), severe osteoarthritis (only arthritis drug I can take is Ibuprofin due to asthmatic reactions to other NSAIDS), and badly damaged legs with neuropathy (take neurontin for seizures, which is supposed to help some with this). Any suggestions appreciated. My PM doc is conservative, but if I take a suggestion to him, I think he would consider it. I've had the cortisone injections in my spinal column - these were worse than nothing, I was unable to move for days & days afterward & they made the pain worse.
Thanks for listening.
Jen
Thanks for listening.
Jen
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SheSparkles
03-24-2005, 09:27 AM
Hi Jen,
Well, I am gonna sing my old refrain...why not ask about the fentanyl patch? I get hives with codeine, hydrocodone and morphine but do not with fentanyl. Has this drug come up with yr Dr. in conversations? I feel it's nothing short of amazing pain relief. I am 53 and have gone round and round with meds...have been on the patch for 3 yrs and won't go off till I am forced.
Sparkles
Well, I am gonna sing my old refrain...why not ask about the fentanyl patch? I get hives with codeine, hydrocodone and morphine but do not with fentanyl. Has this drug come up with yr Dr. in conversations? I feel it's nothing short of amazing pain relief. I am 53 and have gone round and round with meds...have been on the patch for 3 yrs and won't go off till I am forced.
Sparkles
jencat
03-24-2005, 04:34 PM
Thanks so much - this may be the option I've been looking for. Will discuss w/my PM doc next visit. My reaction to codeine/hydrocodone/morphine is rather severe - asthma, then complete respiratory failure, but I'm willing to try anything at this point. Hopefully my doc will agree, but will probably want to try in a controled environment like his office 1st.
Wow - I'm really glad I finally asked this question! I'll post a reply after my next visit to let you know how it works out.
Jen
Wow - I'm really glad I finally asked this question! I'll post a reply after my next visit to let you know how it works out.
Jen
SheSparkles
03-24-2005, 06:44 PM
Thanks so much - this may be the option I've been looking for. Will discuss w/my PM doc next visit. My reaction to codeine/hydrocodone/morphine is rather severe - asthma, then complete respiratory failure, but I'm willing to try anything at this point. Hopefully my doc will agree, but will probably want to try in a controled environment like his office 1st.<
SS said:
If you have severe reactions to some narcotics, and it sure sounds like you do, I am sure yr Dr. can figure out a way to "test drive" fentanyl in yr system before turning you loose. During use fentanyl gets on ones skin, of course and I have never had a reaction to the fentanyl...however I and many others do get somewhat itchy from the patch delivery system itself. I just use a steroid spray and things seem to get better.
Jen said:
>Wow - I'm really glad I finally asked this question! I'll post a reply after my next visit to let you know how it works out.
Jen<
You are cute, Jen. I am glad you asked it too. I am sure you are not the only person with a need to know about this issue. And yes, do let us know what happens at your next visit.
SS
SS said:
If you have severe reactions to some narcotics, and it sure sounds like you do, I am sure yr Dr. can figure out a way to "test drive" fentanyl in yr system before turning you loose. During use fentanyl gets on ones skin, of course and I have never had a reaction to the fentanyl...however I and many others do get somewhat itchy from the patch delivery system itself. I just use a steroid spray and things seem to get better.
Jen said:
>Wow - I'm really glad I finally asked this question! I'll post a reply after my next visit to let you know how it works out.
Jen<
You are cute, Jen. I am glad you asked it too. I am sure you are not the only person with a need to know about this issue. And yes, do let us know what happens at your next visit.
SS
darkmantis
03-27-2005, 05:55 PM
Hi Jen,
Well, I am gonna sing my old refrain...why not ask about the fentanyl patch? I get hives with codeine, hydrocodone and morphine but do not with fentanyl. Has this drug come up with yr Dr. in conversations? I feel it's nothing short of amazing pain relief. I am 53 and have gone round and round with meds...have been on the patch for 3 yrs and won't go off till I am forced.
Sparkles
Thats a huge step up from Darvocet..
Well, I am gonna sing my old refrain...why not ask about the fentanyl patch? I get hives with codeine, hydrocodone and morphine but do not with fentanyl. Has this drug come up with yr Dr. in conversations? I feel it's nothing short of amazing pain relief. I am 53 and have gone round and round with meds...have been on the patch for 3 yrs and won't go off till I am forced.
Sparkles
Thats a huge step up from Darvocet..
SheSparkles
03-27-2005, 06:08 PM
Thats a huge step up from Darvocet..
Well, did you happen to read the diagnosis of this poor girl? Darvocet seems highly inadequate; of course I have had only 5 years of constant, chronic pain upon which to base my suggestion. Plus, she is allergic to several lower strength meds. What might your thought on this be?
SS
Well, did you happen to read the diagnosis of this poor girl? Darvocet seems highly inadequate; of course I have had only 5 years of constant, chronic pain upon which to base my suggestion. Plus, she is allergic to several lower strength meds. What might your thought on this be?
SS
darkmantis
03-27-2005, 07:33 PM
Im sorry if i sounded rude plz accept my apology i too have been in pain for almost 5 years...and it sucks!All i meant was from Darvocet to somethin like that may be risky but shes got no choice it seems..
SheSparkles
03-27-2005, 08:01 PM
Im sorry if i sounded rude plz accept my apology i too have been in pain for almost 5 years...and it sucks!All i meant was from Darvocet to somethin like that may be risky but shes got no choice it seems..
No problem; I have my snappy days as well. :):) Yes, being in pain is awful and this poster seems to have lots of reasons to be in pain. It just seemed to me that the patch might be a reasonable option considering what she is allergic to...she wouldn't necessarily have to go on a high dose patch..I am on 100mcgs but they start as low as 25mcgs. I am sure any Dr. would titrate her up from a low starting point. No one wants her on a dangerous dose.
Thanx for your considerate reply,
Sparkles
No problem; I have my snappy days as well. :):) Yes, being in pain is awful and this poster seems to have lots of reasons to be in pain. It just seemed to me that the patch might be a reasonable option considering what she is allergic to...she wouldn't necessarily have to go on a high dose patch..I am on 100mcgs but they start as low as 25mcgs. I am sure any Dr. would titrate her up from a low starting point. No one wants her on a dangerous dose.
Thanx for your considerate reply,
Sparkles
darkmantis
03-27-2005, 08:40 PM
No problem; I have my snappy days as well. :):) Yes, being in pain is awful and this poster seems to have lots of reasons to be in pain. It just seemed to me that the patch might be a reasonable option considering what she is allergic to...she wouldn't necessarily have to go on a high dose patch..I am on 100mcgs but they start as low as 25mcgs. I am sure any Dr. would titrate her up from a low starting point. No one wants her on a dangerous dose.
Thanx for your considerate reply,
Sparkles
wonder why my dr refuses to put me on the patch,instead keeps me on oxycontin wihich helps but id like somethin longer lasting ..the patch works for three days right?
Thanx for your considerate reply,
Sparkles
wonder why my dr refuses to put me on the patch,instead keeps me on oxycontin wihich helps but id like somethin longer lasting ..the patch works for three days right?
SheSparkles
03-27-2005, 08:50 PM
[QUOTE=darkmantis]wonder why my dr refuses to put me on the patch,instead keeps me on oxycontin wihich helps but id like somethin longer lasting ..the patch works for three days right
Actually the literature says the patch will work UP TO 72 hours duration but mine never did and most folks don't. Most patch people need to go to a 48hr switch. And I am amazed about the Oxy....gad, most Drs. jump for the patch to get their patients off of Oxy. cause there is so much fuss from the DEA about it. The Oxy I mean. And it is believed that with OxyContin there is a real concern about hyper-tolerance...just meaning that it seems many people get tolerant faster to Oxy than other narcotics. I am terrified of Oxy...I would love it and it, me and we would be in BIG trouble. With the patch MOST people can not or do not adjust the dose. I can hear it now from some of yas...yes, the patch is not abuse-proof but it seems to have less abuse than some of the other narcotics. I don't dare abuse it at all..I treasure my pain control too much.
SS
Actually the literature says the patch will work UP TO 72 hours duration but mine never did and most folks don't. Most patch people need to go to a 48hr switch. And I am amazed about the Oxy....gad, most Drs. jump for the patch to get their patients off of Oxy. cause there is so much fuss from the DEA about it. The Oxy I mean. And it is believed that with OxyContin there is a real concern about hyper-tolerance...just meaning that it seems many people get tolerant faster to Oxy than other narcotics. I am terrified of Oxy...I would love it and it, me and we would be in BIG trouble. With the patch MOST people can not or do not adjust the dose. I can hear it now from some of yas...yes, the patch is not abuse-proof but it seems to have less abuse than some of the other narcotics. I don't dare abuse it at all..I treasure my pain control too much.
SS
darkmantis
03-27-2005, 08:56 PM
actually people abuse patches by either freezing them and eating them like chips or...scrape all the gel out with somethin an eat it....seems like a suicide mission to me though
trowftd3
03-28-2005, 04:09 AM
actually people abuse patches by either freezing them and eating them like chips or...scrape all the gel out with somethin an eat it....seems like a suicide mission to me though
Alll I can say to that one is....eeeeewwwww!!! I've never actually seen a patch but if they're anything like the lidoderm ones...yuck. I can't even imagine and would never have thought anyone would or could do that.
Do you like ranch or french onion dip with your patch chips?LOL
(sorry for the BAD humor)
~Mush
Alll I can say to that one is....eeeeewwwww!!! I've never actually seen a patch but if they're anything like the lidoderm ones...yuck. I can't even imagine and would never have thought anyone would or could do that.
Do you like ranch or french onion dip with your patch chips?LOL
(sorry for the BAD humor)
~Mush
darkmantis
03-28-2005, 09:07 AM
Alll I can say to that one is....eeeeewwwww!!! I've never actually seen a patch but if they're anything like the lidoderm ones...yuck. I can't even imagine and would never have thought anyone would or could do that.
Do you like ranch or french onion dip with your patch chips?LOL
(sorry for the BAD humor)
~Mush
lolol
Do you like ranch or french onion dip with your patch chips?LOL
(sorry for the BAD humor)
~Mush
lolol