Hey, Lisa....how are you....happy easter to you as well......thanks for you help.......I went to the meth place today, and they would not give me my dose, because I missed yesterday, and I guess, I have to see the doctor tommorow, so i am not sure if he will up my dose, or just give me the 25 mgs...but i am going to go, and get on it.

Are you on it now, or were you on it, and how long, and how did you come off. There is alot of negative people at this clinic that i am going to, and they are all telling me that, its such a trap etc etc....I do realize that the trap i am in right now is way worse.

Once i get stable, am i going to feel normal, and i going to feel, ready to deal with life and deal with my problem, right now i feel so hopeless. Should I quit taking all oxys, once i take my meth that day.........

Any help about the meth, and how it works, and your expeirnces will help me greatly at this point. I do realize that my addiction may be down talking the meth, so i can stay on it. Even with the 25 mgs , i was still feeling like being on oxys, and i am so worried i am going to kill myself, by taking to much...of one or the other...

Chris..

I am not lisa but i have been following your story a little. I have been on methadone a ton and for a long time dude. Don't lie to the doctor first of all. They are used to people like us. Your story is no different than anyone else's. The day you get your dose you do need to not take the oxy's. Why? Not really because you might od (it could happen), but more because you need to see how the methadone works. If in three hours you feel like it did not get you well then whatever. But if it did not then go in the next day and tell them you had withdrawls and need a higher dose. Keep doing that untill the methadone does it for you. I promise you that the methadone will satisfy you and if taken high enough it will knock you on your butt better than any oxy's. That is just the truth of it. What methadone does is take away the worries of getting drugs because you have your fix every day. If you are anything like i was the worries of getting high and staying well consumed my every day. I had no room to be productive keeping up with my 24 hour a day job (my addiction and habit). You asked will you feel normal???? You will feel like you are well ,and at the right dose ,totally content and not wanting to do any more opiats. You will feel like you can not worry about a bunch of crap and still have that warm feeling you get in your chest when you take enough pills. What is normal anyway? I am three years sober and who made up the definition for normal anyway? LOL! You will feel relieved of the daily craziness of addiction and still have meth. Still have the drug. Methadone is a very good and strong form of opiates. It is just as good, if not better, than your pills. You won't want to take pills because you will have already gotten them for the day. As far as methadone being bad and a trap.... as long as you know that it is just legal dope and the idea is more to get you to stop the habitual stuff you do surrounding the drugs and then deal with the physical stuff later then you know what you are getting yourself into. If you do not see your self getting off of the pills now and can't handle it anymore then it will releive you. But at some point you are goint to have to face the addiction and make huge changes in your life and allow your body the time to heal naturally. The body is amazing and when you think it can never go back to normal eventually you just have to sit it out and it does. Eventually might not be now for you. If you detox at the clinic the way they do it you will not have hardly any with drawls. But you still jonse and just have to be tough and make a decision that you will get through it. Good luck dude.

hey jessy, thanks for the info. I guess, i am doubting the methadone, becuase, the low dose i am on, is not cutting it. I am taking your advice, and i am going to get my dose upped, adn get into it. I have exhausted every other option, and everytime, i plan to quit, when i wake up that day, holy smokes, i just cant do it. i am losing it, and its tearing me apart. I have spent the last 10 years or so, builing up my personal possesions, and lately i have been selling almost everything i own to get these ****ing things. Its unreal. So , tommorow, i am going to go get this meth upped. I didnt go today or yesterday, so that may be a problem. but well see. If not, then i will just go back to the 25, and try my hardest to stay away from everything else.

Listen, how many mills are you on, and if I was doing about 350-400 a day, how much meth will i need, approx. I know everyone is different, so ball park is cool, and have you weened , and how was that...

Chris.

Hi Oxy, i just found this post, and i wanted to respond.
What the hell were you taking the oxy and the METHADONE for??? No wonder why it didn't work....you stop the oxy and ONLY take meth....
I have never been on it, but have a very close friend that takes it. He has never taken more than 60 mg in a day. but he did do a little tapering before jumping on the meth. He jumped from oxy to vicodin then vicodin to meth. He needed too many vikes to even touch his w/d and i was getting worried that he was going to have toxic levels of tylenol build up. He had a VERY high tolerance to oxy's......he was sober and doing well for awhile, but he quit meetings and started letting some of those "toxic" people back into his life, and is back out using.....i fear for him, i wonder if this is the time he will o.d......the amounts he takes are unbelievable. I still drag his butt to a meeting once a week with me, but he tries to resist. I just don't allow it. And he knows it! ;)
Well i wish you would've given the meth a chance to work. You can't take meth and oxycontin....it just defeats the whole purpose.
Well i know you have decided to take the other route to get sober, c/t.....
how's the clonidine working out??? You will feel very sluggish on it.
Hope these next few days are tolerable for you....
I am really proud of you!!!
Hang tough
luv,
LISA

Oxy.......
Have you considered suboxone? I am using it and am on a taper plan currently 4mgs a day. It is truly amazing no wds, no craving to use. You have probably read about it here, many of us are on it. I heard that there is a withdrawal from it, but my Doc says if I follow the taper plan everything will be OK, I'm a bit worried because a guy at a NA meeting said he went into a terrible depression coming off it he takes Zoloft and Kolonopin (sp?) but anything is better than always chasing the poppy Hang tough Oxy....you are here because you want to quit and thats half the battle

You were doing oxycontins right???? If so and I have that right my guess would be that you might need a pretty good dose. I would say you will probably need around 100 to be totally satisfied but 60 will make you more than well and just keep going up untill you are content and not jonsing. There is a difference between being well, being content, and being more than satisfied. Apply it to the same thing as drugs.