Dawn1969
05-17-2005, 09:16 AM
Hello and good morning to everyone.
Ive been hearing quite a bit about OxyIR. I'm not really familiar with it. Is it similar to Percocet or to Oxycontin? Is it something that works immediately or is it time release like oxycontin? Also, how safe is it? I know it comes in 5mg capsules, so if im taking Percocet 10/650, what would I be expected to take that equals that, 2 of the OxyIR? Or is it NOT a suitable replacement for the percocet? This may also be something that my mother would be able to take. I think I read that it also comes in a liquid, she's on percocet too and has quite a hard time swallowing pills. I'd like to have more information before talking to my Dr about it, he seems to respond better if I put time into researching my medicine instead of just asking for it. Basically what I'm hoping to do is find something with less or no tylenol/aspirin, which im sure we all are. I would appreciate any responses to this, my appt is tomorrow and I'd like to perhaps bring it up to him. Thank you very much,
Dawn
Ive been hearing quite a bit about OxyIR. I'm not really familiar with it. Is it similar to Percocet or to Oxycontin? Is it something that works immediately or is it time release like oxycontin? Also, how safe is it? I know it comes in 5mg capsules, so if im taking Percocet 10/650, what would I be expected to take that equals that, 2 of the OxyIR? Or is it NOT a suitable replacement for the percocet? This may also be something that my mother would be able to take. I think I read that it also comes in a liquid, she's on percocet too and has quite a hard time swallowing pills. I'd like to have more information before talking to my Dr about it, he seems to respond better if I put time into researching my medicine instead of just asking for it. Basically what I'm hoping to do is find something with less or no tylenol/aspirin, which im sure we all are. I would appreciate any responses to this, my appt is tomorrow and I'd like to perhaps bring it up to him. Thank you very much,
Dawn
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Shoreline
05-17-2005, 10:13 AM
Hi Dawn, OxyIR is simply a 5mg oxycodone capsule, It contains no tylenol . The only long acting Oxy product is Ozycontin or one of it's generics like Oxy SR or Oxy LA "sustained release/Long acting" Everthing else is short acting, about 4 hours. So if you were taking percocet 10, the equal amount of opiate pain reliever would be #2 5mg oxyIR capsules, you simply wouldn't be getting any tylenol. They also make a tablet form called Roxidocone that comes in 5mg, 15mg and
30 mg tablets, they are quite small because they also have no tylenol.
The liquid version of Oxy is called OxyFast, it's pure oxy liquid no, apap, and comes in strenghts from 5mg per ml to 20 mg per ml. There is also a generic available for all these products .
You can find the full prescribing info at the manufacturers web site. Purdue pharma makes OxyIR and Oxyfast, the oxyfast only comes in the stronger concentration of 20mg per ml but the generic oxydose comes in both 5mg and 20 mg per ml. It comes in 30 ml bottle,so you get #30 20mg doses or #30
5mg doses.
The liquids work a little faster and the IR products works a litle faster than pill form but your really only talking about minutes with capsules and maybe a little more with the liquid. However those extra 5 or 10 minutes you gain in how fast it works are subtracted from the duration of the products. It works 10 minutes faster but 10 minutes shorter. So you still get the same amount of pain relief, it's just a matter of working slightly quicker and wearing off slightly sooner.
The generics are a whole lot cheaper with all these products, and a whole lot cheaper than 10 mg percs even in generic form. I can get #120 30mg oxycodone tablets for 1 dollar a piece. Percocet 10's in generic cost about 2 bucks a piece and are one thrid the strength.That's if you or your mom don't have script insurance. You realy have to shop price and demand retailers price match if your must stick to using one pharmacy. Meds can be 3 times more expensive at one pharmacy Vs a pharmacy in a buying club like Sams or Costco where you do not need a membership to use the pharmacy.
If you go to the FDA orange book and type in Oxycodone ,
http://www.fda.gov/cder/ob/default.htm
select search for product by active ingredient and hit qyuerry, it will show you the strength, form and every manaufacturer of both name brand and generic oxycodone products, or any product your interested in.
20mg per ml Oxyfast is extremely potent and would be very easy to accomadate too quickly and drive your tolerance up.
Are you talking about using it as a breaktohugh med in addition to a Long acting med or simply using it for acute or post op pain?
If it's your BT med you get to hear my BT med speech a little later. LOL
Good luck, Dave
30 mg tablets, they are quite small because they also have no tylenol.
The liquid version of Oxy is called OxyFast, it's pure oxy liquid no, apap, and comes in strenghts from 5mg per ml to 20 mg per ml. There is also a generic available for all these products .
You can find the full prescribing info at the manufacturers web site. Purdue pharma makes OxyIR and Oxyfast, the oxyfast only comes in the stronger concentration of 20mg per ml but the generic oxydose comes in both 5mg and 20 mg per ml. It comes in 30 ml bottle,so you get #30 20mg doses or #30
5mg doses.
The liquids work a little faster and the IR products works a litle faster than pill form but your really only talking about minutes with capsules and maybe a little more with the liquid. However those extra 5 or 10 minutes you gain in how fast it works are subtracted from the duration of the products. It works 10 minutes faster but 10 minutes shorter. So you still get the same amount of pain relief, it's just a matter of working slightly quicker and wearing off slightly sooner.
The generics are a whole lot cheaper with all these products, and a whole lot cheaper than 10 mg percs even in generic form. I can get #120 30mg oxycodone tablets for 1 dollar a piece. Percocet 10's in generic cost about 2 bucks a piece and are one thrid the strength.That's if you or your mom don't have script insurance. You realy have to shop price and demand retailers price match if your must stick to using one pharmacy. Meds can be 3 times more expensive at one pharmacy Vs a pharmacy in a buying club like Sams or Costco where you do not need a membership to use the pharmacy.
If you go to the FDA orange book and type in Oxycodone ,
http://www.fda.gov/cder/ob/default.htm
select search for product by active ingredient and hit qyuerry, it will show you the strength, form and every manaufacturer of both name brand and generic oxycodone products, or any product your interested in.
20mg per ml Oxyfast is extremely potent and would be very easy to accomadate too quickly and drive your tolerance up.
Are you talking about using it as a breaktohugh med in addition to a Long acting med or simply using it for acute or post op pain?
If it's your BT med you get to hear my BT med speech a little later. LOL
Good luck, Dave
Dawn1969
05-17-2005, 02:32 PM
Dave,
Thanks for your response. The pain im having is acute pain, its from the RA, i've had it since I was 6 and its done a lot of damage and caused much deformity. Like I said originally, I want to get away from the aspirin and tylenol. So, no lectures, lol. Take care Dave and thanks again.
Dawn
Thanks for your response. The pain im having is acute pain, its from the RA, i've had it since I was 6 and its done a lot of damage and caused much deformity. Like I said originally, I want to get away from the aspirin and tylenol. So, no lectures, lol. Take care Dave and thanks again.
Dawn
Shoreline
05-19-2005, 04:01 PM
Hey Dawn, It's not a lecture about the evils of opiates, It's simply about using breakthrough meds when used in conjunction with LA meds correctly.
I can say that at the PM clinic that finally got my pain under control, one of the nurses from that hospital was going through at the same time. She had RA too, pretty severe where her arms were deformed to the point of arms so twisted inward the palms of her hands pointed outward. After titrating the right LA med, I saw her workng in the hospital about a month later, palms turned in and keeping up with the kids on the psych wing.
In her case, LA meds were the answer. It's much harder to bring a flair under control than it is to keep pain in check, that's the basic idea behind LA meds. When it becomes a quality of life issue, it's not a hard decsion, even knowing all the possible negitive consequnces and experincing many, the negative media, the freinds and family that know what you need to do and what helped their 3rd cousins husbands dog.
LA meds can be the right answer for some people. Just something to think about. Rheumy's aren't notorious for pain managment though, you may need to find a PM doc that can manage both the pain and the RA. They are out there.
Good luck, No lectures ;) Dave
I can say that at the PM clinic that finally got my pain under control, one of the nurses from that hospital was going through at the same time. She had RA too, pretty severe where her arms were deformed to the point of arms so twisted inward the palms of her hands pointed outward. After titrating the right LA med, I saw her workng in the hospital about a month later, palms turned in and keeping up with the kids on the psych wing.
In her case, LA meds were the answer. It's much harder to bring a flair under control than it is to keep pain in check, that's the basic idea behind LA meds. When it becomes a quality of life issue, it's not a hard decsion, even knowing all the possible negitive consequnces and experincing many, the negative media, the freinds and family that know what you need to do and what helped their 3rd cousins husbands dog.
LA meds can be the right answer for some people. Just something to think about. Rheumy's aren't notorious for pain managment though, you may need to find a PM doc that can manage both the pain and the RA. They are out there.
Good luck, No lectures ;) Dave