RavenShield
05-27-2005, 03:33 AM
Ive seen a few sites that claims lemon juice and some other stuff can make gall stones come out. Ive seen pictures of stones that people allegedly "passed". Pass? :confused: They showed huge (walnut sized) jagged stones, some were green with yellow highlights and some brownish orange. Is this bologna or what? If I can do this safely without having to have the gallbladder removed that'd be pretty flippin sweet. I have episodes where when I'd yawn or inhale deeply I would feel intense pain under my ribcage on the right side. It almost feels like something is tearing at something in there. Sometimes I swear I can feel painful "snaps" or "pinches". I think my bladder is packed full of stones, just like my mothers' was.
My mom had gallstones, had her gallbladder removed and she has irregular bowel movements now. Sometimes after she eats the food will go right through. I dont want my GB removed, I need it I think :( .
My mom had gallstones, had her gallbladder removed and she has irregular bowel movements now. Sometimes after she eats the food will go right through. I dont want my GB removed, I need it I think :( .
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kehorner
05-27-2005, 05:53 AM
A lot of the results of gallbladder removal can vary between people. I had mine out at the beginning of April, and I have absolutely no regrets. Other than the scars, there is no evidence that I ever had a problem or surgery. I feel great and have no issues. However, there are other people who get the surgery and still have pain, or have bowel problems, or all kinds of other stuff.
I read about those flushes, but never had the courage to try. A lot of them sound rather unpleasant. Also, I was worried about it causing problems. If you read about gallstones, you will see that they can cause life-threatening emergencies if they get caught at certain places in the ducts between the gallbladder and the intestines. So I was afraid that it would dislodge stones that would end up getting caught somewhere and require emergency surgery or something.
You should see a doctor and get the diagnostic tests done, then you can discuss treatment options. An ultrasound will show whether or not you have stones. Then you can talk about treatments, the need for treatment, and the risks and benefits of each available treatment.
When I got mine out, there were tons of stones, and the biggest one was over an inch in diameter. Not something I'd like to try to pass through any of my natural body openings. I am quite satisfied with having it removed while I was fast asleep.
Hope that helps.
I read about those flushes, but never had the courage to try. A lot of them sound rather unpleasant. Also, I was worried about it causing problems. If you read about gallstones, you will see that they can cause life-threatening emergencies if they get caught at certain places in the ducts between the gallbladder and the intestines. So I was afraid that it would dislodge stones that would end up getting caught somewhere and require emergency surgery or something.
You should see a doctor and get the diagnostic tests done, then you can discuss treatment options. An ultrasound will show whether or not you have stones. Then you can talk about treatments, the need for treatment, and the risks and benefits of each available treatment.
When I got mine out, there were tons of stones, and the biggest one was over an inch in diameter. Not something I'd like to try to pass through any of my natural body openings. I am quite satisfied with having it removed while I was fast asleep.
Hope that helps.
RavenShield
05-27-2005, 10:19 AM
:( ok. I figured it would just be better to go to the doc. im a little afraid they'd recommend surgery right away, without even considering what other options are available. What I saw on those gallstone flushing sites was simply crazy, I couldnt believe stones the size of walnuts could come out from anywhere in the body, except from an incision from surgery. Before I wrote this reply I searched the board and read many mixed results about GB removal and remedies. Its really confusing.
Thanks for your post. I appreciate it kehorner.
Thanks for your post. I appreciate it kehorner.
parabellum
07-03-2005, 04:03 AM
I think there is a way to crack gallstone into small pieces using high energy ultrasonic waves, which break gallstone into small pieces.
If you have doubts about the flushing being a hoax,
You could confirm if flushing was successful by doing ultrasonic scanning, same way doctors determined you had gallstone in the first place.
If you have doubts about the flushing being a hoax,
You could confirm if flushing was successful by doing ultrasonic scanning, same way doctors determined you had gallstone in the first place.
Lenin
07-03-2005, 11:25 AM
Raven,
I have done a liver flush several times and have eliminated from just a few stones (bright green accretions of hardening cholesterol/bile/god-know's what) to close to 100 last time.
It is a GODSEND and anyone who would opt for surgery instead of trying this completely noninvasive way to clear gallstones is being MIGHTY foolish, IMNSHO.
About 15 years ago I suffered endless bouts of wavelike pain every time I ate a large fatty meal. After my second flush, this NEVER occurred again. I do a flush about once a year whenever I start feeling a slight "fullness" under my right ribcage for several days/weeks.
The process is a HUGE chore but really consumes only one day when there really is little you can do but stay at home, and rest...keep the TV near the toilet:D:D!
I do a variant on Hulda Clarke's method but I take only one dose of epsom salts before bed...her method of starting HOURS before bed is too risky (if you catch my drift.)
I STRONGLY advise you try it.
Grapefruit Juice is an easier sub for the lemon juice but either is good...cider vinegar is also and ANY oil can be subbed for the olive oil. I used canola last time!
I have done a liver flush several times and have eliminated from just a few stones (bright green accretions of hardening cholesterol/bile/god-know's what) to close to 100 last time.
It is a GODSEND and anyone who would opt for surgery instead of trying this completely noninvasive way to clear gallstones is being MIGHTY foolish, IMNSHO.
About 15 years ago I suffered endless bouts of wavelike pain every time I ate a large fatty meal. After my second flush, this NEVER occurred again. I do a flush about once a year whenever I start feeling a slight "fullness" under my right ribcage for several days/weeks.
The process is a HUGE chore but really consumes only one day when there really is little you can do but stay at home, and rest...keep the TV near the toilet:D:D!
I do a variant on Hulda Clarke's method but I take only one dose of epsom salts before bed...her method of starting HOURS before bed is too risky (if you catch my drift.)
I STRONGLY advise you try it.
Grapefruit Juice is an easier sub for the lemon juice but either is good...cider vinegar is also and ANY oil can be subbed for the olive oil. I used canola last time!
tigerfish
07-03-2005, 03:28 PM
Please read the post: Another Gallbladder(?) Story. . .
I list the detail recipe of doing gallbladder/liver flush and my mom just did it Friday and it was amazing, more than 200 come out and still going....
I list the detail recipe of doing gallbladder/liver flush and my mom just did it Friday and it was amazing, more than 200 come out and still going....
Titchou
07-03-2005, 10:01 PM
I had my gallbladder out in February and am SO glad I did. It was a breeze...and very few people have bad results. For most, everything is fine. And how you eat in the days following surgery greatly impact how you will be in the long run. A friend tried to get me to do a flush (apple juice for 7 days and then a cup of olive oil). I decided that: a) I could still have more stones down the road and might have to do this periodically and b) the stones could get lodged and cause other problems and c) the bladder was damaged and would not repair itself anyway. As I have said in other threads, I jogged two miles one week after the surgery. Get it over with and move on!
Good luck!
Good luck!
RavenShield
07-03-2005, 10:49 PM
You mentioned something I was wondering about Titchou, stones getting lodged. How likely is this to happen? And how do large stones pass through the small gall bladder tube?
Titchou
07-04-2005, 09:48 AM
RavenShield: I really don't know. The experience of friends' who've had kidney stones just made me decide that I didn't want to try the flush. It was more scary than the surgery...to me.
el gato
07-05-2005, 12:23 AM
Lenin,you said that you did a liver flush.If you don't mind please share the experience and what you mixed up.
lght911
01-16-2006, 04:10 PM
Gallstones are not stones like kidney stones. That is calcium and can be shattered, my mom has had that done. Gallstones are made up up cholesterol and bile; they squish like a green pea and they pass through a bowel movement and that is not painful at all. I have done the flush about 15 times. Also, passing the 'chaff' or floating stuff is as important as passing the stones.