Dawn
08-03-2001, 03:05 PM
Hi, EDS...if you're still out there (as well as Didgy and whomever else was interested). Just thought I'd post that I'm 2 weeks post-op from my surgery with Dr. Constantian. I had replied to your question about Dr. Constantian in Nashua prior to surgery, and just wanted to let you know that I would VERY HIGHLY recommend him without reservation. He is not only a wonderful surgeon, but a great person as well, seriously concerned about his patients in all respects. I have nothing but good things to say about him and the surgery. At two weeks, I am amazed at how "normal" I already look and feel. I LOVE what he did for me!! Yes, I still have some residual swelling in the jawline, but very little considering what was done...and no one that has seen me has even noticed any swelling. It is already difficult for me to even see where the sutures were at the ears. The line under my chin is already flattened and pale, and I'm sure will be difficult to detect given some time. The bruising was gone after one week, and I feel great! My stiff neck has begun to loosen up, and I am already beginning to think of it as just "a good sign" that the surgery worked, lol. I have nothing but great things to say about him and his staff (and no, I do not have any affiliation with him other than as a patient, and I get nothing other than satisfaction in recommending him). I can't believe the number of people who have said how great I look, but they can't figure out what's different...it's a very natural look that he makes every effort to achieve. I'd like to hear from you, EDS, after you've consulted with him (I believe you said your consultation is scheduled in August), and see what your take is. I'm SO thrilled that I'm already considering having him do something for under my eyes, LOL! Oh, well, guess I'll give PS a rest for now, but he will absolutely be my choice if and when I decide to have anything else done. Hope this helps you make your decision...and good luck.
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didgy
08-04-2001, 06:44 PM
That is just great. So glad you had a satisfactory
experience. I hope I have the courage to do the same
soon. Did you have general anesthesia or twilight
sleep?
Right now I am going the microdermabrasion route and
and pleased with the skin thing at least.
experience. I hope I have the courage to do the same
soon. Did you have general anesthesia or twilight
sleep?
Right now I am going the microdermabrasion route and
and pleased with the skin thing at least.
Dawn
08-04-2001, 09:58 PM
Hi Didgy ~ I'm so glad you're feeling so good about the microdermabrasion treatments. As for me, I am also thrilled with my lower f/l and necklift results. I was supposed to have twilight anesthesia, which had been discussed during my consultations. However, I ended up having general because of some complications with me and my allergies. The last thing I remember was the anesthesiologist telling me he'd take good care of me and telling me to swallow two little white pills (for allergies), lol. Apparently, my PS came in after that to talk to me and mark my face for the work he was about to do, but I have NO recollection of that, or of being rolled into the OR. Haha. Then, all of a sudden I woke up with my head wrapped in some big get-up! I slept most of the day because of pain meds they gave me, and was released the following morning after my head wrap was removed. It was a breeze, considering how scared I was.
I'd be interested in hearing more about what you had done. Can it be done in specific areas, such as just for the upper lip lines and under eyes rather than the whole face? If so, I may just look into that, as that is the only other thing I'd like to take care of. Other than that, I'm one happy camper with my results.
I'd be interested in hearing more about what you had done. Can it be done in specific areas, such as just for the upper lip lines and under eyes rather than the whole face? If so, I may just look into that, as that is the only other thing I'd like to take care of. Other than that, I'm one happy camper with my results.
didgy
08-05-2001, 02:02 PM
Dawn, I am going for my 4th treatment in the morning
and I will get more information for you. It is such
a simple procedure that there really wouldn't be any
reason not to do your entire face and neck. I think
this is done mostly to correct skin texture, blotchiness, enlarged pores, etc. although I do think
it has softened some of my deeper lines on my face.
There is a lot of info on it at the yestheyrefake.com
website. I am older so my results might not be as
good as someone younger. My daughter, who is 30, is
having it done too. She had her second treatment
last week and her face broke out like she was in
puberty. She called the PS office and they said it
would do that, it was bringing out the impurities.
It would get better. We will see, I will keep you
posted. Actually, it is already better.
and I will get more information for you. It is such
a simple procedure that there really wouldn't be any
reason not to do your entire face and neck. I think
this is done mostly to correct skin texture, blotchiness, enlarged pores, etc. although I do think
it has softened some of my deeper lines on my face.
There is a lot of info on it at the yestheyrefake.com
website. I am older so my results might not be as
good as someone younger. My daughter, who is 30, is
having it done too. She had her second treatment
last week and her face broke out like she was in
puberty. She called the PS office and they said it
would do that, it was bringing out the impurities.
It would get better. We will see, I will keep you
posted. Actually, it is already better.
Dawn
08-06-2001, 12:43 AM
Thanks Didgy. I'm really happy that you're so happy with the results. I'm actually happy with my skin in general, except for that creepy crepey stuff under my eyes, lol. Now that I've had the lower face and neck taken care of, I notice it even more. My lips are just beginning to show signs of aging (and former smoking...ugghhhh), so I'd want that area done too. I guess if the whole face is just as easy to do, I could do it that way. I did just notice that my PS supposedly does microdermabrasion, so I know it's an option.
Do you mind me asking how much it costs, ballpark figure? Also, does it leave you red and hiding out for a while? :) I'll check the web site you mentioned...I was on there frequently reading the posts before my surgery. Great site. Thanks again, Didgy!
Do you mind me asking how much it costs, ballpark figure? Also, does it leave you red and hiding out for a while? :) I'll check the web site you mentioned...I was on there frequently reading the posts before my surgery. Great site. Thanks again, Didgy!
Dawn
08-06-2001, 12:03 PM
Ooops, sorry Didgy. I asked you about cost, etc....and then found the info on the YesThey'reFake site. Sorry. :) I have a feeling it would be the top of the price range here, since PS seems more expensive here than most places. But it still seems really reasonable, and I like the idea of having little to no "hiding out with a paper bag over my head" time with it. LOL.
didgy
08-06-2001, 03:24 PM
Just back from treatment. Face a little pink but can
put on makeup in about 3 hours. She said the
treatments will prolong the effects of the facelift.
Lines on the upper lip usually require the laser
treament. I have the beginnings of crepy under eye
area too. I notice that she is putting the Parsian
Peel on that area but I don't see an improvement yet
that is why I am considering the lower bleph.
I admire you so much for having the courage to actually
get the lift. I know that at my age nothing else is
really going to give me the results that I really need
and want but maybe I am working up to it - we will see.
I had my nose done years ago but I guess I was braver
then. Who did your lift?
put on makeup in about 3 hours. She said the
treatments will prolong the effects of the facelift.
Lines on the upper lip usually require the laser
treament. I have the beginnings of crepy under eye
area too. I notice that she is putting the Parsian
Peel on that area but I don't see an improvement yet
that is why I am considering the lower bleph.
I admire you so much for having the courage to actually
get the lift. I know that at my age nothing else is
really going to give me the results that I really need
and want but maybe I am working up to it - we will see.
I had my nose done years ago but I guess I was braver
then. Who did your lift?
Dawn
08-06-2001, 07:08 PM
Hi Didgy, thanks so much for the update. I have considered laser treatments, but right now I can't take the time to heal from the redness. Maybe this winter I'll look into it...or a lower bleph.
My PS was Dr. Mark Constantian in Nashua, NH. I had so much confidence in him that I think that helped with my decision to go ahead and do it. That confidence was not misplaced. He is superb, and I wouldn't hesitate to recommend him. I also found out shortly before surgery that he is rated as one of the country's top Plastic Surgeons, although I know that some people say those ratings mean little. I really don't know if I would have gone ahead with it after seeing the other surgeons for consultations, who were no where near as thorough and helpful as Dr. C. As a matter of fact, two of the doctors I consulted with prior to Dr. Constantian actually mentioned him during the consultations, saying what an excellent surgeon he is. He's also very personable, as is his staff. I don't know where you're located, but if the distance wasn't a problem for you, I'm certain you'd feel confident with him once you consulted. If you're really afraid, do what I did and consider just the lower facelift/necklift. It's not as drastic a surgery as a full facelift, and I'm serious when I say it was really pretty easy....and WELL worth the results, even at this early stage.
I just read your post that you weren't a candidate for Nlite...I think I knew that before, but I forget why? I've been considering it, but the closest to me is Connecticut, so I'm waiting to hear someone say on here that the results were "great" before I think more seriously about it, LOL!
My PS was Dr. Mark Constantian in Nashua, NH. I had so much confidence in him that I think that helped with my decision to go ahead and do it. That confidence was not misplaced. He is superb, and I wouldn't hesitate to recommend him. I also found out shortly before surgery that he is rated as one of the country's top Plastic Surgeons, although I know that some people say those ratings mean little. I really don't know if I would have gone ahead with it after seeing the other surgeons for consultations, who were no where near as thorough and helpful as Dr. C. As a matter of fact, two of the doctors I consulted with prior to Dr. Constantian actually mentioned him during the consultations, saying what an excellent surgeon he is. He's also very personable, as is his staff. I don't know where you're located, but if the distance wasn't a problem for you, I'm certain you'd feel confident with him once you consulted. If you're really afraid, do what I did and consider just the lower facelift/necklift. It's not as drastic a surgery as a full facelift, and I'm serious when I say it was really pretty easy....and WELL worth the results, even at this early stage.
I just read your post that you weren't a candidate for Nlite...I think I knew that before, but I forget why? I've been considering it, but the closest to me is Connecticut, so I'm waiting to hear someone say on here that the results were "great" before I think more seriously about it, LOL!
didgy
08-07-2001, 12:11 AM
I wasn't a candidate for Nlite because the lines
I wanted improvement in were the ones from nose to
mouth and the puppet lines in chin. Nlite is more
for the fine lines which I don't have except under
the eye.
What exactly is involved in a "lower facelift". The
worse areas of my face are the neck and little jowl
type bags at the side of the chin. If I could get
rid of those problems I could live with the rest.
My fear is of the epinepherine - I have a problem with
it and they probably have to use a lot of it because
of the bleeding.
How long does it take to get a consultation with
your doctor?. I live in the midwest, so it would
be quite a trip for me but the peace of mind would
be worth it. Have there been any post complaining
about his work?
Do you mind giving us a ballpark figure as to the
cost of the lower facelift? Did you stay in the
hospital overnight? Was it done in his office?
Did you have to stay in the vicinity for a few days in
case of complications. I know these are a lot of
questions but I am really interested in this.
I wanted improvement in were the ones from nose to
mouth and the puppet lines in chin. Nlite is more
for the fine lines which I don't have except under
the eye.
What exactly is involved in a "lower facelift". The
worse areas of my face are the neck and little jowl
type bags at the side of the chin. If I could get
rid of those problems I could live with the rest.
My fear is of the epinepherine - I have a problem with
it and they probably have to use a lot of it because
of the bleeding.
How long does it take to get a consultation with
your doctor?. I live in the midwest, so it would
be quite a trip for me but the peace of mind would
be worth it. Have there been any post complaining
about his work?
Do you mind giving us a ballpark figure as to the
cost of the lower facelift? Did you stay in the
hospital overnight? Was it done in his office?
Did you have to stay in the vicinity for a few days in
case of complications. I know these are a lot of
questions but I am really interested in this.
Dawn
08-07-2001, 04:07 AM
Hi Didgy...I remember now, after reading your post, that we discussed this a while ago about the Nlite and the lower facelift. The lower facelift addresses exactly what you say you're looking for...the jowl area and the neck. Actually, this doctor even took the time to try to smooth out the little bulges beside my mouth (I guess they're part of those lines that come down from beside the nose). That's exactly what I wanted as well...those lines if possible, with the jowl area and neck. It's done with an incision under the chin, as well as tiny sutures in front of and behind the ears...but as bad as those sound, after only two weeks I can hardly see mine. Let me put it this way...I never even told my kids I was having it done, as they were away for the weekend anyway, and surgery was on Friday. When I saw them on Sunday night, I just let my hair hang down around my face a little, and they never noticed anything (although I was pretty swollen, lol). I did tell them I wasn't feeling too well, and stayed in my room resting quite a bit for the next few days, but by day four they saw me and still never noticed anything, since my hair covered the sutures. I did wear a collared blouse, so the bruising that was on my neck wasn't noticeable.
I don't know about epinephrine, but I do know that the anesthesiologist in the hospital questioned me well and tailored the anesthesia to my needs (I have asthma and severe allergies, so also cannot have certain meds, etc.) He interviewed me the morning of the surgery and also had a nurse get all sorts of information from me, and planned the anesthesia around that.
It took about a month to get an appointment with him, if I remember correctly...but the longest wait was for the actual surgical date. That was about 3 months or a little more for me to wait, but it was well worth it even though it put me into the summer months. His costs vary, depending on what work a patient specifically needs done. My consultation was $155, and then his surgical fee was right around $5,000 (maybe $5,500?). The hospital and anesthesiologist were approximately another $2,500 combined, if I remember correctly. So a total of about $8,000 or less.
I researched him extremely well, and found no complaints against him. All I found, no matter what sources I checked, were exemplary records and comments. Also, I know people say not to listen to advertising, which I don't. But, he is listed in medical journals as one of the top surgeons in the country, his speciality being noses. One medical site on the web (although I'm not sure if I could find it now), named him as second top in the country for noses.
I did stay in the hospital overnight, and was released the next morning. My head wrap and drains were removed before my release, which was good...however, some people have to wait another day or two to have the drains removed (depending on the amount of fluid still coming out), so yes, you would have to stay for that if needed. Also, most of the sutures come out at 7 days, and the rest at 10 days, with follow ups. I do know that many people travel for PS, and it is the same for him, so there must be a way of having the follow-ups done near your home once you return?? I'm not sure how they do that, though. I do know that his staff is wonderful..far above the offices I visited for other consultations, and very accomodating and informative. In his waiting room there is actually a notebook filled with information about hotels/motels in the area, what they offer, and the price ranges. It's out in the open, and I have a feeling that he must have many patients that make use of that because they have to travel. His office is in Nashua, NH, which is southern NH. Since I live in southern NH, I didn't need to worry about travelling. I think I've answered all you asked, but feel free to ask away if you have other questions.
I don't know about epinephrine, but I do know that the anesthesiologist in the hospital questioned me well and tailored the anesthesia to my needs (I have asthma and severe allergies, so also cannot have certain meds, etc.) He interviewed me the morning of the surgery and also had a nurse get all sorts of information from me, and planned the anesthesia around that.
It took about a month to get an appointment with him, if I remember correctly...but the longest wait was for the actual surgical date. That was about 3 months or a little more for me to wait, but it was well worth it even though it put me into the summer months. His costs vary, depending on what work a patient specifically needs done. My consultation was $155, and then his surgical fee was right around $5,000 (maybe $5,500?). The hospital and anesthesiologist were approximately another $2,500 combined, if I remember correctly. So a total of about $8,000 or less.
I researched him extremely well, and found no complaints against him. All I found, no matter what sources I checked, were exemplary records and comments. Also, I know people say not to listen to advertising, which I don't. But, he is listed in medical journals as one of the top surgeons in the country, his speciality being noses. One medical site on the web (although I'm not sure if I could find it now), named him as second top in the country for noses.
I did stay in the hospital overnight, and was released the next morning. My head wrap and drains were removed before my release, which was good...however, some people have to wait another day or two to have the drains removed (depending on the amount of fluid still coming out), so yes, you would have to stay for that if needed. Also, most of the sutures come out at 7 days, and the rest at 10 days, with follow ups. I do know that many people travel for PS, and it is the same for him, so there must be a way of having the follow-ups done near your home once you return?? I'm not sure how they do that, though. I do know that his staff is wonderful..far above the offices I visited for other consultations, and very accomodating and informative. In his waiting room there is actually a notebook filled with information about hotels/motels in the area, what they offer, and the price ranges. It's out in the open, and I have a feeling that he must have many patients that make use of that because they have to travel. His office is in Nashua, NH, which is southern NH. Since I live in southern NH, I didn't need to worry about travelling. I think I've answered all you asked, but feel free to ask away if you have other questions.
didgy
08-07-2001, 03:31 PM
Sounds like you had the best possible experience
with your surgery. You had done exactly what I want.
The reason I have so many questions is that one local
PS told me I would not be satisfied with a lower lift
and that it was just as much to go thru as the full
face lift. I don't need the brow lift and my eyes
aren't too bad so I thought the lower would be just
what I wanted. My mom had a facelift about 30 years
ago in Chicago, and like you, she had a good surgeon
and to this day is glad she had it done and would do
it again but she has some heart problems. My daughter
wants to have her nose done soon so I will pass this
info regarding the nose on to her. Wish NH was closer.
We are in Indiana. Oh, about how long did the surgery
take? Also, you said your children didn't notice. Do
they notice that you look younger and more rested now?
with your surgery. You had done exactly what I want.
The reason I have so many questions is that one local
PS told me I would not be satisfied with a lower lift
and that it was just as much to go thru as the full
face lift. I don't need the brow lift and my eyes
aren't too bad so I thought the lower would be just
what I wanted. My mom had a facelift about 30 years
ago in Chicago, and like you, she had a good surgeon
and to this day is glad she had it done and would do
it again but she has some heart problems. My daughter
wants to have her nose done soon so I will pass this
info regarding the nose on to her. Wish NH was closer.
We are in Indiana. Oh, about how long did the surgery
take? Also, you said your children didn't notice. Do
they notice that you look younger and more rested now?
Dawn
08-07-2001, 05:58 PM
I also had one consultation where the PS told me that I would not be happy with the lower, and that he was going to do the full FL. He even said this after he, himself, admitted that there wasn't too much that needed doing anyway, and that my cheeks were still good, etc. I don't have one line on my forehead, so there was no way I needed that part done. My eyes would be good if not for the tiny lines, and a bleph is separate from a FL anyway. So, no reason not to go for the lower only, and it has accomplished exactly what I wanted it to. That said, if I truly felt I had needed the full FL, or if the doctor I trusted most felt that, I would have done it. But I'm not about to have work that I don't need, and I wanted to go with the least possible work that would give me the maximum results in the areas I was concerned about.
The surgery was about 3 hours, I believe. As for my children, they're college age, so aren't around all that much to notice, lol. However, one of them keeps looking at my neck and my profile and looking puzzled, haha. I can't tell you how many people have seen me and said how great I look...and then said it must be because my hair was lighter from the sun, or said they thought my new hair style was very flattering, etc. I had a few ask what I was doing differently with my skin, because I look so great! Since I don't Have a new hairstyle and I'm using the same moisturizer, lol, it must be the surgery! My parents (who would have NEVER approved had they known) saw me and went on and on about how great I looked, and said that the summer sure agrees with me. :)) Just last week I met a new neighbor that had just moved in, and she told me her age...which was 11 years younger than me. When I told her mine, she just kept repeating "NO WAY! No way!" I thought you were younger than me! (I refrained from saying "you should have seen me a few weeks ago...you wouldn't be saying that"! LOL). So, lots of compliments, and they haven't figured it out! The difference in the neck makes a huge difference in how old I look, and my own attitude. I haven't had this neck in about 15 years!
Good luck to your daughter, by the way.
The surgery was about 3 hours, I believe. As for my children, they're college age, so aren't around all that much to notice, lol. However, one of them keeps looking at my neck and my profile and looking puzzled, haha. I can't tell you how many people have seen me and said how great I look...and then said it must be because my hair was lighter from the sun, or said they thought my new hair style was very flattering, etc. I had a few ask what I was doing differently with my skin, because I look so great! Since I don't Have a new hairstyle and I'm using the same moisturizer, lol, it must be the surgery! My parents (who would have NEVER approved had they known) saw me and went on and on about how great I looked, and said that the summer sure agrees with me. :)) Just last week I met a new neighbor that had just moved in, and she told me her age...which was 11 years younger than me. When I told her mine, she just kept repeating "NO WAY! No way!" I thought you were younger than me! (I refrained from saying "you should have seen me a few weeks ago...you wouldn't be saying that"! LOL). So, lots of compliments, and they haven't figured it out! The difference in the neck makes a huge difference in how old I look, and my own attitude. I haven't had this neck in about 15 years!
Good luck to your daughter, by the way.
EDS
08-07-2001, 09:14 PM
Hi Dawn
I'm happy to hear your surgery went well.I've been checking the boards from time to time hoping to hear from you. I too, haven't told my daughter about having this surgery. It will be interesting to see if she notices. I'm hoping I will be able to go back to work within two weeks after the surgery. My apppointment with Dr Constantian is August 16th. How were your energy levels after the surgery? Did you need to stay in bed or were you able to move around and do housework ect.?
EDS
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Can anyone give me any informationGood or bad) on Dr. Mark Constantian? in Nashua NH.
Gramma
I'm happy to hear your surgery went well.I've been checking the boards from time to time hoping to hear from you. I too, haven't told my daughter about having this surgery. It will be interesting to see if she notices. I'm hoping I will be able to go back to work within two weeks after the surgery. My apppointment with Dr Constantian is August 16th. How were your energy levels after the surgery? Did you need to stay in bed or were you able to move around and do housework ect.?
EDS
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Can anyone give me any informationGood or bad) on Dr. Mark Constantian? in Nashua NH.
Gramma
Dawn
08-08-2001, 12:17 AM
Hi EDS...good luck with your consultation. I'll be going in for my one month check on the 17th. I can't believe it has been two and a half weeks already! As for going back to work in two weeks, I would have had no problem doing that. The first few days after surgery, I slept a lot...some just because the body needed it after surgery, and also because the anesthesia and pain meds were still in my system. But, after a few days of that, I was ready to go! I had to keep reminding myself to take it easy, as they tell you to do. I would start to do something, like bend over, and then feel the effects and realized I'd made a mistake. Also, sleeping wasn't the easiest thing to do at first, because staying in the correct position took some getting used to. You're told not to drive for a few weeks, but I couldn't wait...was out for a short drive by day 5 I think, and by one week was out doing all the usual things...shopping, etc. From then on, I was going out to meet friends for lunch, etc. As for housework, though, some of it is difficult to do for the first few weeks. I had the energy, but making sure I didn't hold my head down or turn it the wrong way forced me to put off big things like vacuuming. It's wise to take it easy to some extent to allow the swelling to go down.
Since you haven't had your surgery, you probably don't know the date yet. Hope it's not as long a wait as I had, but if it is, the wait is worth it. Good luck, and keep us posted!
Since you haven't had your surgery, you probably don't know the date yet. Hope it's not as long a wait as I had, but if it is, the wait is worth it. Good luck, and keep us posted!
EDS
08-08-2001, 03:36 PM
Hi Dawn
Thanks for the reply. I called and confirmed my appointment this morning. I'm excited and a little apprehensive. Don't know yet if I'm having a lower FL or a bleph. I may need both procedures but we'll start with one :-). My husband thinks I should have the eyes done first and I think the lower FL, I'll let the Dr. decide.
Thanks for the reply. I called and confirmed my appointment this morning. I'm excited and a little apprehensive. Don't know yet if I'm having a lower FL or a bleph. I may need both procedures but we'll start with one :-). My husband thinks I should have the eyes done first and I think the lower FL, I'll let the Dr. decide.
Dawn
08-08-2001, 10:51 PM
EDS, I don't even know you, and I'm still getting excited for you, lol. Hope your consultation goes well. Please let me know what happens.
Funny thing is, once I had my lower f/l over with, I decided I think I want to do a lower bleph! Personally, I'm glad I had the f/l first, but you have to do what you decide is right for you. Remember, too...you're lucky to have a supportive husband regarding your surgery (mine is definitely NOT)...but you're the one that lives "in" your face 24/7, so it should be what you want done first. But a big high five to him for supporting you through this!
Funny thing is, once I had my lower f/l over with, I decided I think I want to do a lower bleph! Personally, I'm glad I had the f/l first, but you have to do what you decide is right for you. Remember, too...you're lucky to have a supportive husband regarding your surgery (mine is definitely NOT)...but you're the one that lives "in" your face 24/7, so it should be what you want done first. But a big high five to him for supporting you through this!
EDS
08-12-2001, 05:15 AM
Dawn, Thanks,I hope it goes well also.
Your right , I am fortunate to have a supportive husband. It was actually his idea that I have the surgery. I guess he got tired of hearing me complain about my eyes and jowels :-). The jowels are hereditary on my mothers side. Sorry to hear your husband was NOT supportive but I'm sure he is now happy with the results.I'll get back to you after my consultation on Thursday
Your right , I am fortunate to have a supportive husband. It was actually his idea that I have the surgery. I guess he got tired of hearing me complain about my eyes and jowels :-). The jowels are hereditary on my mothers side. Sorry to hear your husband was NOT supportive but I'm sure he is now happy with the results.I'll get back to you after my consultation on Thursday
didgy
08-12-2001, 05:05 PM
I wish we could get some posts with such satisfying
results from someone who has had the procedure done
by a midwest surgeon. It would be hard to manage
a trip to NH for consultation, surgery and follow ups.
I just may do it tho, especially since you have done
all the research, etc. His fees seem a little high
compared to our PS in the midwest but sounds like he
is worth it.
Sounds like you are 40 something. I am 60 - ugh! Hard
to even say - but I still think the lower lift would
take care of the neck thing and jowls which is all
that really bothers me. I really appreciate your posts. Thanks again.
results from someone who has had the procedure done
by a midwest surgeon. It would be hard to manage
a trip to NH for consultation, surgery and follow ups.
I just may do it tho, especially since you have done
all the research, etc. His fees seem a little high
compared to our PS in the midwest but sounds like he
is worth it.
Sounds like you are 40 something. I am 60 - ugh! Hard
to even say - but I still think the lower lift would
take care of the neck thing and jowls which is all
that really bothers me. I really appreciate your posts. Thanks again.
Dawn
08-12-2001, 08:49 PM
Didgy, if you're thinking I'm the one that's 40 something, many thanks, lol. Actually, I'm in my early 50's, although I have to admit, I inherited pretty good skin genes. But, as you say, the jowls and the neck can really start to bother you...mine seemed to drop really quickly. I started researching and getting consults late last year, and they were minimal. By the time I had them done about nine months later, they had gotten considerably worse for some reason! Either that or the "before" pictures were WAY exaggerated! LOL. Anyway, hope you can do it somehow for your own peace of mind and satisfaction, because I now know the good feeling to look in the mirror and see the "me" I felt like inside, instead of some person who looked older than I felt! I wish that for you, too, Didgy!
EDS, we'll be waiting for your update! I sure hope you're as impressed and encouraged as I was with the Dr.
EDS, we'll be waiting for your update! I sure hope you're as impressed and encouraged as I was with the Dr.
didgy
08-12-2001, 10:22 PM
From as far back as I can remember or have been told,
the women in our family have always taken care of
themselves, tried to remain looking young and
loved "dressing up" (fashion) but from all the
pictures it seems we all have that jowl thing going
no matter how thin we are, so of course I am
fighting genes, but thank goodness now there something
that can be done about it if I can get up the courage
to do it and I bet I do, health permitting.
My husband and I have taken up ballroom dancing and
nothing is more depressing than to be all dressed up
in a ballgown and not like what you see in the mirror.
Thank you for your encouragement.
Excuse the rambling sentences - I am trying to type
while my 2 yr old grandson is taking this advantage
to get into everything!
the women in our family have always taken care of
themselves, tried to remain looking young and
loved "dressing up" (fashion) but from all the
pictures it seems we all have that jowl thing going
no matter how thin we are, so of course I am
fighting genes, but thank goodness now there something
that can be done about it if I can get up the courage
to do it and I bet I do, health permitting.
My husband and I have taken up ballroom dancing and
nothing is more depressing than to be all dressed up
in a ballgown and not like what you see in the mirror.
Thank you for your encouragement.
Excuse the rambling sentences - I am trying to type
while my 2 yr old grandson is taking this advantage
to get into everything!
Dawn
08-12-2001, 10:44 PM
Hi Didgy...too cute about the 2-year-old grandson. I'll bet he's a joy. The ballroom dancing sounds great, and I understand even more your desire to look your best. As for me, I've always enjoyed dressing well and wearing nice jewlery. Well, before my surgery (for the last year or so at least), I've worn necklaces less and less because I hated to see them drawing attention to my neck and lower face. I put one on the other day and grinned from ear to ear!
Don't worry, if you want this badly enough, you'll find the courage to do it. I think you're at the stage I was at last year, before doing so much researching. Once I got involved in the research, and reading many different message boards, I was hooked enough on the thought of looking my best that I didn't look back, lol. I admit, I was really scared once surgery was only a few days away, but the Dr. and staff put me right at ease, and it was over before I could say "uhhhh, maybe I should think about this". LOL! I think, like me, when you're really ready, you'll know it!
Don't worry, if you want this badly enough, you'll find the courage to do it. I think you're at the stage I was at last year, before doing so much researching. Once I got involved in the research, and reading many different message boards, I was hooked enough on the thought of looking my best that I didn't look back, lol. I admit, I was really scared once surgery was only a few days away, but the Dr. and staff put me right at ease, and it was over before I could say "uhhhh, maybe I should think about this". LOL! I think, like me, when you're really ready, you'll know it!
didgy
08-13-2001, 12:13 PM
I know what you mean!! I try necklace chokers, the
little scarf, turtlenecks, etc. and I can't decide
if it makes it worse or a little better. Someone
told me the scarf is a dead giveaway and only
lets everyone know what I am trying to cover up -
kinda like a man with a comb over, ha. Most people
would probably think my neck is not too bad but it
bothers me so I better have something done.
My daughter is having surgery next week (not cosmetic)
and if everything goes well, I will be able to
think about doing something for myself- maybe. First
things first.
Can't wait for you to do the bleph. That is something
I am considering too.
little scarf, turtlenecks, etc. and I can't decide
if it makes it worse or a little better. Someone
told me the scarf is a dead giveaway and only
lets everyone know what I am trying to cover up -
kinda like a man with a comb over, ha. Most people
would probably think my neck is not too bad but it
bothers me so I better have something done.
My daughter is having surgery next week (not cosmetic)
and if everything goes well, I will be able to
think about doing something for myself- maybe. First
things first.
Can't wait for you to do the bleph. That is something
I am considering too.
Dawn
08-13-2001, 01:57 PM
Didgy, the comparison to the comb-over got me really laughing. How true that is!! I also tried everything to hide it, once it began to bother me. I started consults in the winter months, and happened to have a turtleneck sweater on when I went to one of them. The surgeon came in for the consultation and immediately asked me if I was wearing the turtleneck to cover up my neck, lol. I told him it was a combination of that and the cold weather...to which he said "Well, if it's for the cold weather, that's fine, but many people use turtlenecks thinking they're hiding it, when in fact it only draws attention to it". I guess I'd already known that, but it made me realize even more how much I wanted the surgery! He then made me feel a little better (but only a little, haha)...by saying what a beautiful sweater it was and the color looked great on me. LOL! The compliment didn't work, though...I still found someone else to do the work. :)
Like you, people close to me that I would mention my neck to said I was being ridiculous...but when I looked at pictures of me, I realized that from the mouth up I could accept the way I look, but from the mouth down, I just couldn't get over how old I'd gotten pretty quickly! I did this for me, not them...and funny thing is, all of the people that said that (and don't know what I've had done), have all been complimenting me about how great I've been looking. So, mission accomplished!
As for the bleph, surgery close to the eyes really scares me for some reason. Since my problem is really just tiny lines under the eyes, but no bags, I think I'm gonna give some type of laser a try...hopefully Nlite if I can find posts that say they have actually seen decent results. Laser has such a long "red" period that if I did that, it would only be in the winter months after the holidays. We'll see.
Good luck to your daughter with her surgery! I'll be thinking of you and her, as I know from personal experience what it is to be concerned with a child (no matter how old they are, lol) going through surgery. Hope everything's fine, as I'm sure it will be.
Like you, people close to me that I would mention my neck to said I was being ridiculous...but when I looked at pictures of me, I realized that from the mouth up I could accept the way I look, but from the mouth down, I just couldn't get over how old I'd gotten pretty quickly! I did this for me, not them...and funny thing is, all of the people that said that (and don't know what I've had done), have all been complimenting me about how great I've been looking. So, mission accomplished!
As for the bleph, surgery close to the eyes really scares me for some reason. Since my problem is really just tiny lines under the eyes, but no bags, I think I'm gonna give some type of laser a try...hopefully Nlite if I can find posts that say they have actually seen decent results. Laser has such a long "red" period that if I did that, it would only be in the winter months after the holidays. We'll see.
Good luck to your daughter with her surgery! I'll be thinking of you and her, as I know from personal experience what it is to be concerned with a child (no matter how old they are, lol) going through surgery. Hope everything's fine, as I'm sure it will be.
didgy
08-13-2001, 08:23 PM
I know I have exhausted this subject but I have to
share one more incident with you, knowing you
understand. I needed a necklace to go with an
evening gown (ballroom dancing) and I found this
wonderful black beaded choker - about 3 inches or
so wide. I thought I had found the answer to my
problem - it looked great - fortunately I wondered
over to the 3 way mirror for another look and the
coker had pushed the extra skin up into a little roll
at the sides - looked ridiculous! Saved some money
that day.
My daughter is having an ovarian cyst removed - I am
really worried although the doctor says he is almost
positive it is benign - the almost bothers me. Thanks
for your concern.
share one more incident with you, knowing you
understand. I needed a necklace to go with an
evening gown (ballroom dancing) and I found this
wonderful black beaded choker - about 3 inches or
so wide. I thought I had found the answer to my
problem - it looked great - fortunately I wondered
over to the 3 way mirror for another look and the
coker had pushed the extra skin up into a little roll
at the sides - looked ridiculous! Saved some money
that day.
My daughter is having an ovarian cyst removed - I am
really worried although the doctor says he is almost
positive it is benign - the almost bothers me. Thanks
for your concern.
Dawn
08-13-2001, 11:20 PM
Didgy, first of all, thanks for the giggle about the choker. I can totally relate.
More importantly, I want to wish your daughter well, and tell you to try not to worry too much. I have had many, many ovarian cysts, the first found during a routine gyn exam when I was in my early 20's. It was supposedly the size of a small orange. Over the years, I've had several more, one of which ruptured. None of them (other than the ruptured one) ever presented anything serious, and even that one was able to be treated appropriately. I know there's always the possibility of complications, but I truly believe, having been through all of that, that the doctor is only covering all the bases. He certainly can't guarantee that it's benign before checking it, but for him to say he's pretty certain, he probably is. That's been my experience, anyway. Otherwise, they simply say they won't know until they get in and look. I'll be thinking of both of you, and hoping and praying for the best! Keep positive!
More importantly, I want to wish your daughter well, and tell you to try not to worry too much. I have had many, many ovarian cysts, the first found during a routine gyn exam when I was in my early 20's. It was supposedly the size of a small orange. Over the years, I've had several more, one of which ruptured. None of them (other than the ruptured one) ever presented anything serious, and even that one was able to be treated appropriately. I know there's always the possibility of complications, but I truly believe, having been through all of that, that the doctor is only covering all the bases. He certainly can't guarantee that it's benign before checking it, but for him to say he's pretty certain, he probably is. That's been my experience, anyway. Otherwise, they simply say they won't know until they get in and look. I'll be thinking of both of you, and hoping and praying for the best! Keep positive!
didgy
08-14-2001, 12:05 AM
Thank you so much. It helps to hear such positive
outcomes. Common sense tells me she will be alright
but I hate for her to have to go through it. She
has a phobia about anesthesia that makes this sort of
thing especially scary for her. She put her fears
aside and underwent TWO bone marrow transplants in
hopes of saving my brother who had leukemia - so she
is a pretty special. This was within the last 2 years.
I hate to have her go through an operation again so
soon but there is no other way. She has put it off
for several months already. Like yours, it is about
the size of a grapefruit. Your post makes me feel
better. Was yours done by laproscopy? If you
want you can e-mail me at salherrell@psci.net
outcomes. Common sense tells me she will be alright
but I hate for her to have to go through it. She
has a phobia about anesthesia that makes this sort of
thing especially scary for her. She put her fears
aside and underwent TWO bone marrow transplants in
hopes of saving my brother who had leukemia - so she
is a pretty special. This was within the last 2 years.
I hate to have her go through an operation again so
soon but there is no other way. She has put it off
for several months already. Like yours, it is about
the size of a grapefruit. Your post makes me feel
better. Was yours done by laproscopy? If you
want you can e-mail me at salherrell@psci.net
Dawn
08-14-2001, 09:22 PM
Hi Didgy! Sorry, I must have had a blonde moment early this morning...I responded by e-mail, but I just got a reply from whomever I wrote that I must have meant it for someone else, since they didn't know what I was talking about. LOL! I got back on to check your address, so may as well respond here now.
I think it's wonderful that your daughter went through that in hopes of helping. What a loving gesture...you must be very proud of her! I certainly wish her well with her upcoming procedure. As for me, yes, it was done with a laparascopy. Just a tiny incision right around the belly button, and another one right over the pubic bone that was about a half inch, maybe 3/4 of an inch long. It took about an hour I think,maybe a little longer, under general anesthesia, and I went home later the same day after waiting to get the pathology report. My only side effect was sleeping most of that day and night from the anesthesia, and then I was fine.
Just as a side note...I, too, am afraid of anesthesia. Before surgery I had to fill out a several-page form about meds, medical info, etc. On the last page there was a question asking "Do you have any other concerns about this surgery that you would like to address to the surgeon or anesthesiologist?" I wrote something like "Yes! Anesthesia scares me big time...PLEASE just make sure I wake up!!" I was serious, but wrote it light-heartedly, lol. They both came in to assure me that I would be fine, and the anesthesiologist was chuckling at my comment, lol.
She'll be in good hands...and the procedure is a very common one, so please try not to worry too much. What day is the procedure?...I'll be keeping each of you in my thoughts and prayers.
I think it's wonderful that your daughter went through that in hopes of helping. What a loving gesture...you must be very proud of her! I certainly wish her well with her upcoming procedure. As for me, yes, it was done with a laparascopy. Just a tiny incision right around the belly button, and another one right over the pubic bone that was about a half inch, maybe 3/4 of an inch long. It took about an hour I think,maybe a little longer, under general anesthesia, and I went home later the same day after waiting to get the pathology report. My only side effect was sleeping most of that day and night from the anesthesia, and then I was fine.
Just as a side note...I, too, am afraid of anesthesia. Before surgery I had to fill out a several-page form about meds, medical info, etc. On the last page there was a question asking "Do you have any other concerns about this surgery that you would like to address to the surgeon or anesthesiologist?" I wrote something like "Yes! Anesthesia scares me big time...PLEASE just make sure I wake up!!" I was serious, but wrote it light-heartedly, lol. They both came in to assure me that I would be fine, and the anesthesiologist was chuckling at my comment, lol.
She'll be in good hands...and the procedure is a very common one, so please try not to worry too much. What day is the procedure?...I'll be keeping each of you in my thoughts and prayers.
EDS
08-14-2001, 09:41 PM
Didgy...I've read all the postings and I'm beginning to feel like part of a family :-)
re....posting 8-6-01 ....what exactly is crepy eye?
My husband and I also do ballroom dancing. Have you been dancing long?
Hope everything goes well with your daughters surgery.
re....posting 8-6-01 ....what exactly is crepy eye?
My husband and I also do ballroom dancing. Have you been dancing long?
Hope everything goes well with your daughters surgery.