Ladies,
I'm old and confused and can't keep up with all these multiple posts going on, especially those of us who have been just chattin' away getting to know each other! Since this is a meno board tho, I have to mention that if I make it through the end of this month, I'd have been w/o a period for 1 year! I would be in true menopause! Geez, I remember the day when I first got my period and what a fuss my mom made - she told my dad like it was something I accomplished and to be proud about! I even remember my sister buying my first bra! I didn't want to wear a bra - being a tomboy, I wanted to stick to the t-shirts and then my friend's mom told I was now built like a "woman" at age 14 and I hated it!! I didn't want to be a woman, I wanted to be a girl! It sounded so old! Anyway, I've never thought of menopause. It just came on suddenly and now I'm there! Amazing!

molly

Hi Molly and Jackie,

here I am in this new post Molly so nicely started !! I am on my lunchbreak and just stopped in and I did read in the other thread , Molly that you said you were going to start another post. So I will answer both of your notes in here as you did in the other one with both of ours. I am tempted to answer them one by one to be honest, as I am kind of methodical like that in answering notes, so my first inclination is to do that, but perhaps it will be less confusing to read this way. At any rate, I will try it this way this time and see if it is better for you guys.

It was nice of you to start a new thread just for chattin', Molly. I think the support "just chattin" gives is very important to traveling the peri road we all find ourselves on.

Speaking of which, I am now envious of more than your hair Molly...soon it will be one year as you said that you have not had your period!! So yes I am very envious of that. I know that you had your own bout with troubles with going thru this peri-crazy time and I thank you again for all your help to those of us going thru it now. Your support and words have been and continue to be a big help to me and I thank you!!

It was interesting to read your memories about when you first got your period and the "fuss" your mom made. Mine did that too and also the first bra thing...it was a big deal!! You said you did not want to wear a bra, whereas I not being a tomboy was the opposite and was pretty excited about it. Most of my friends though were not and were more the way you were feeling. I think the time when we first got our periods is really a lot like when we are stopping them or on the way to stopping them in peri, don't you? I say this as the hormones at both times are all over the place, it is scary as it is different for us at both times and also unknown. But both are perfectly natural and it is just a stage that we go thru. I have never associated meno. with getting old for some reason. Guess I am in denial about that!! LOL!!

From your other post in the other thread you mentioned jury duty, Molly. I know the feeling as I had to go last year. They did call my number but I did not end up having to go so I was happy about that also.

So you have a Yorkie-pom, Molly and Jackie has a Yorkie. Your dogs sound so tiny compared to ours. He is 30 lbs. He is not overweight though but very solid so says the vet too. He runs with my husband and gets a lot of exercise. I have never seen a yorkie-pom and so I will have to look it up. I did have a yorkie, my first dog when I was in high school and as I said she was a sweetie. I think it is great you take her with you when you go out Molly. We love to have our dog with us as much as possible to. I always feel bad when he is at home alone when we are working and he is so excited when we come home. He is going to be 12 and I do not even want to think of losing him. He is really puppy like still though and seems to be doing well, although his hearing is not as good as it used to be. But other than that he is looking good and is very playful ,etc. As I said I do not even want to think about it as he is such a part of our lives. He is quite the character as I have said!!

You are right, Molly that Jackie and I both could probably take less time getting ready if it weren't for fussing on our hair, etc!! LOL!! You mentioned mascara. I usually do not wear it as it inevitably irritates my eyes and therefore contacts. Even ones that are made for sensitive eyes or contact wearers I find do not do the trick. I use other makeup and especially love using lipstick. As far as taking time to get ready though for me I think I just do not give myself enough time so am always rushing.

I see we 3 have something else in common in that Paul was our favorite Beatle. He still is for me!! : ) He turned 63 on June 18th, can't believe that one!! He still looks good though and sounds good. We were fortunate enough to see him 2 years ago when he was in our city and it was an incredible concert!! We had seen him about 10 years earlier and that was the first time. My husband tells me I completely froze when I saw him come out on stage!! I was just awestruck I think. My husband and I are very into all kinds of music and so listen to cds a lot. I did like all the Beatles and still do but yes he was my favorite along with George too. I also shared your love of your favorite Monkee, Jackie.....Davey Jones!! I remember too getting a color tv and being excited to see them..IN COLOR!!

Speaking Music.. you live in Elvis' hometown, Jackie!! Would love to see Graceland. Not that I am a huge Elvis fan although I think he is at the root of a lot of rock n roll and was such an influence but it would be great to tour his place. I do like his real early stuff especially.

Thanks for the tip, Molly on not wearing my contacts all the time so as to prevent dry eye. I really need to get new glasses so when I do take a break from the contacts I can use those, as the ones I have are ancient as I just do not wear them. And regarding Lasik, Jackie...I have been told the same thing you said about the surgery that it is a not a big deal, but for some reason can't get past the fear, but I am like that with a lot of things I think. Not good to be like that I know.

The barbeque was very good and a nice warm day for it. It got very dark and Wizard of Oz looking in the sky later , which is unusual here, and a bit humid, also rare.

I know what you both mean about getting confused with posts. In the other thread that you two have been in with Hellas and Little Amy, and others, I have posted a couple times but I have to admit I get confused with who is who there. I have to at times copy and paste the post and address it as I go along in my note and then erase it. I thought as I said I would try this time to do what you both did in addressing both notes in one but I think it was more confusing to do so!! LOL!! but perhaps and hopefully it won't be when you are reading it.

Thanks again Molly for starting the chattin' thread!! Hope your day is going well.

Hugs and have a good week to you both,

rmc

Hi Molly, glad you started a new one. The other one was getting really long, and you know with this meno-thing, my patience isn't what it used to be! Gosh, that memory of getting your period sure brought that day back to me too. And that was ages ago!
I don't remember my mom in the picture at all, but do remember that my very best friend called me on the phone to tell me she got hers, & then that very same day I got mine. I remember going to her house & sitting in her kitchen, chatting away about it!
I remember the first bra too. A training bra!!! Trained to do what, I haven't got a clue...I'm still waiting for them to grow!!!
Have a good night!
Hellas

Hi girls! I wondered where you guys were, and Hellas told me about this thread. I have been enjoying reading your posts, just now. Well, my period story goes like this..... I was 10 years old and I started on Halloween!!! :eek: My parents were out of town and I was staying with our next door neighbors. I had the cramps, but I thought I had a stomach virus or something, and then I saw the blood and I knew what was going on. My mom never talked to me about my period, so I was too embarrassed to tell my neighbor what had happened. I went over to our house to look for something to put on, and all I could find was tampons, and I couldn't figure out how you unrolled those suckers to use them! lol I didn't have a clue, so I just kept putting toilet paper in my pants until my parents came home. Mom didn't have any pads, so she had to fold up a rag and pin it in my panties for school the next day - can you believe that???!!!! Of course back then, in my hometown, stores weren't open on Sunday, so there was no way to get anything until Monday. Remember the old sanitary napkins and belts you had to wear with them? When the pads with the sticky stuff came out, that was truly an innovation! And panty hose as well! I hated those darn garter belts. Also, I always had cramps really bad, lots of times I would lay in bed in pure agony - until I got on bcp's. That cleared my acne up and my cramps, but they made me gain weight too. Always got to be a down side - doesn't there?

As far as a bra, I developed early, started wearing one in the fourth grade. I remember getting my first training bra then, and I would sit in class kind of humped over so no one could tell that I had breasts! Too funny :D

Well, its late, and I'd better get my shower and get into bed. Glad that Hellas told me where you were.

Oh - RMC, yes - I have been to Elvis' house once - but only about five years ago. It's something else! We had a big world-wide meeting for our company and had reps from many companies, and we stayed in downtown Memphis, and a tour of Graceland was the entertainment for one night. I wasn't a big Elvis fan in his later years, but my cousin and our best friend had tickets to see him when he died, and they didn't get to see him. They were so disappointed! His ranch where he and Pricilla spent their honeymoon is only about 5 miles from my house and I pass it all the time.

Ok - you all have to tell me where you all live. Gives me more insight on all of you, and I can get a better picture in my head. (something has to be in there, cuz my brain sure isn't!)

Talk to you all tomorrow :wave:

Jackie

Hey ladies,
Wasn't around posting yesterday much because I had to go into jury duty! Ugh! Have to go into today too! I find stuff like this so much of as imposition - in fact, I find anything that I don't care to do these days, incl. dr. appts. such an imposition!

To answer questions from the other post. I live in Calif. Can you guys guess which city? Also, my baby's is 11, will be 12 later this yr. Her name is Kiwi. She isn't all that tiny either. When she was a pup, she weighed 4# at 4 mos. old. She averaged 7.5# for the longest and recent years she averages 8.5 to 9.2#. She has the hair coloring like a yorkie, but the thickness of the hair is like a pom - she isn't puffy like a pom tho - I keep her in a puppy cut. She doesn't shed, doesn't smell even. Actually, best of both breeds. She is obedient trained, did agility, and also passed her Good Canine Citizen test so how's that for bragging?

Jackie, you had your period really early. My mom insisted that I had it at 10 too but I think she is confusing me w/my sister. I remember it was when I was in jr. high. I think I was 13 or 14. I was always a lot "slower" than my sister. Even tho we are only a yr apart in age, she was always at least a head taller, seem to know more than I did. I felt dumber, more naive but I was more athletic! LOL!

Yes, I do definitely remember the pads and the belt, and when pantyhose first came out! Remember fish net stockings? I can't believe I used to wear those with go-go boots! What a dork! LOL! I was actually a "nothing" in school - not popular, not homely, not with the jocks, not with the bad boys or anything. Just part of the furniture IMO! LOL! But, I did hang out with a lot of guys and played vollyball, basketball, softball, skateboarding! Went to my jr. high dance with 9 guys! Kinda still like that w/me now. Have lots of men friends - moreso than women!

RMC, I was in Hawaii with friends actually driving to Black Diamond Beach where Elvis filmed some of his movies when we heard he died that day. Think it was 1976 or something. I wasn't ever an Elvis fan either. Think b/c we were much younger. I also like the BeeGees - more so now than when I was younger. I really like the singing voice of Robin Gibbs - songs like Massachusetts. I also went disco dancing and was actually pretty good at it too! I still like upbeat disco music. In fact, when first got myself to work out a little after going thru my bad peri time, I started with dancing around with disco music! It was like I had to exert all the internal shaking and the tingling left foot stuff outta me!

And Hellas, nice to see you here too! So, you're giving me the impression that you not too big chested?! Well, don't even think having bigger breasts are all that great! They get in the way, they bounce, a royal pain in the butt if you ask me! I really don't understand women who want implants - esp. the young girls that are into it these days! Guess we're just never satisfied, are we?

Well, ladies, got to go and get ready now to hit the road. Plus, don't want this post to be too long either!

Have a good day!
hugs,
molly :wave:

Hey Molly!

I agree with you - Jury duty is a drag. I have been lucky that I never actually got picked to be on a jury. Just think if you had to be on one of the big trials - whew, that would be really bad.

Kiwi, sounds like a very smart dog! I pictured her to be this teeny little thing tho since you carry her around with you all the time - kind of like the little Yorkies you see people carrying around in their purses or something. My Yorkie-Poo, Sassy, was 15 when she died. Hopefully we have lots of years left with Ginger. Her real name is Gingersnap, but we shortened it to Ginger. Name name fit her because of her coloring, she really is a pretty little thing, but of course this is her mama talking. :D

I would have never guessed that you were in California. I would have guessed maybe Chicago, New York or something with a big city. Do you live in San Francisco or LA? We have branch offices in alot of California cities. I went to San Francisco about 3 years ago for a tradeshow, it was really a pretty city. I envy you that you have been to Hawaii. I have always wanted to go there!

I do remember the fishnet hose- and of course I wore them too. Couldn't wear the go-go boots though, my calves have always been too muscular to fit in them. The only kind I can wear are ankle boots.

As far as music - I love the Bee Gees too. Their music is great - always have been crazy about them. I used to go disco dancing too - and loved it. I have always loved to go dancing, whether it was disco, country line dancing or two-stepping. I really miss that - it's great fun, and exercise. I actually met my hubby at a nightclub I used to hang out at, Desperado. My best freind Polly met her hubby there too.

I was laughing thinking abount you dancing around the house to disco - trying to shake out your internal vibrating and left foot thing. lol Oh, I know I am real dumb bunny - but I have seen you post IMO on several things - what does that stand for? I have seen other people use those initals also.

Well - my lunch hour is over, so I had better get back to it. Hot and steamy here in Memphis - supposed to be 97 degrees tomorrow!! YIKES!

jackie :wave:

Hi there Molly, Jackie and Hellas,

Hope you are all having a good day. Thought while on break I'd answer your posts in here. Good to see them!!

Interesting to read the memories of your first periods. I think I got mine around age 11... 6th grade, so what age was that?? My mother gave me lots of literature beforehand. I was home for lunch, didn't want to go back to school but didn't get out of going!! LOL!! I had bad cramps which is pretty much the way it has been since. Birth control pills which I took for 2 years, made them a bit less. I defintely also remember the pads and belt and hated those along with garter belts for stockings. Panty hose was a great invention !!


As far as the first bra experience, Hellas, I forgot they were called "training bras!!" yes it is an odd term for it , isn't it??!!! LOL!!

That is funny, Molly and cute that you went to your junior high dance with 9 guys...you probably were the envy of everyone there!!

Jackie : I am sure Graceland is "something else"!! That is neat that their ranch is so close to you!! I too was not into him in his later years. I think we were too young at the time of his heyday but I do now like some of the early stuff. I did see him right before he died as an aunt who was a teen when he was popular wanted to see him and her husband wouldn't go so she asked me to use his ticket. I was in my early 20s. I was going more as a favor to her. It was fun though and I'm glad I went. It was really fun to see her so excited and like a "teenybopper" over him!!

Molly, Speaking Elvis...that must have been kind of ironic to be driving to Black Diamond Beach in Hawaii where his films were done the day you heard he died!! That beach brings to mind the Gidget movies I grew up with , especially Gidget Goes Hawaiian which I believe was filmed there!! Oh and I like the Bee Gees also, was into Disco in the 70s.

Jackie ...you asked where everyone was from and Molly, you said to guess where in California you live. Let's see... I will guess LA area?? We are on the same coast as it turns out. I am in the Pacific Northwest.

Your little Kiwi, Molly, sounds very cute!! That is also very cute she passed her Good Canine Citizen test!! Very well mannered!! Our cocker is for the most part but does get very excited when he sees people and rambunctious!!

Hope you are all doing well. I was a bit anxious early this week and thought that was going to come back full force but it seems to be under control. After getting my period at day 38 on FriI felt so tired for a day early this week and got some symptoms I usually do before my period. Kind of backwards as I didn't have any before getting it. But that is now passed and I feel more myself.

Hope you are all having a good week.

Take care,

rmc..oh thought I'd put a PS on here (as if it is not long enough!! LOL!! Jackie, just saw your post in the other thread where you were looking for eeveryone. In the For Molly post Molly mentioned she was going to start aanother thread for "just chatting", so glad you found it.
As far as you feeling fuzzy this week as you said, I can relate!! Mon and Tu I was just like in a fog!!

Hey Gals:
I love all your fishnet stockings and bras stories. You could just be repeating the story of my life. I saw Elvis in concert with my Aunt in 1972 (he still looked good) and like "rmc" it was fun to see my Aunt go crazy over him! I've tried to read all the posts from some of the other threads and my heart just goes out to everyone going through this mess. Do any of you guys get really bad headaches during your periods (those of you still having them)?

Also, Jackie...you mention you live in Memphis. I read that driving the Natchez-Trace Parkway is really beautiful. My brother's family and our family would like a fun place to take our kids this summer and need some ideas where we can take all boys ages 17 down to 1. Last year we went to Colorado to Estes Park and Colorado Springs. Any suggestions are welcome since it sounds like you all have traveled. We are Kansans and believe me anywhere would be interesting to us (besides here)!

Glad I found all the new messages, there are SO fun to read!
Amy

Oh oh oh I found you guys! :bouncing:

I was sent over here. Anyhow, I so enjoyed reading through this chat, brings back so many memories.Fishnets/hot pant suits/Nehru jackets/bell bottom hip huggers and railroad pants/platform shoes :p /disco (yes hubby and I took lessons too).

I remember when my period first began...I was away at girl guide camp, age 11! Tried to hide it but mom found out and proceeded to hand out the literature and then my older sis gave me the talk. I too was excited about this but soon tired of it and couldn't wait for this time of my life. Actually in 1967 our school made a time capsule to be opened in 2067...I couldn't even fathom that date...I figured living to age 30 would be a long time and I would be so old.

I presently have one husband (retired)/ a greyhound called Reba (also retired)/2 kitties, Thomas (15 yo) and Sparky (12 yo) and Willie (12yo mini schnauzer) and Zach (11 yo old mini schnauzer) who is also blind with cataracts and diabetic and full of attitude!

I don't know about all you ladies but I can honestly say this is the best time of my life. From age 40 til now (50) has been super. The first 40 yrs kinda sucked.

Oh and before I get too much more long winded I will say ta for now and add that I live in Ontario (southern) Canada.

Jenney

Hi RMC, Amy & Jennie :wave:

I enjoyed reading all of your posts and finding out where everyone lives. RMC, I would have guessed you lived somewhere like Portland, because of the low temperature you said you were having there last week. I haven't been there, but I bet it is beautiful. I picture lots of green landscape, and mountains. We have branch offices in Portland, Eugene, Spokane, and University Place, WA. You were saying that this time, you had PMS symptoms after your period - I did that too sometimes when I was going thru peri. I would not have it beforehand and think, wow - I felt fine this month, and boom - it hit afterwards! I thought it was so weird. You and your husband sound like you have always been so close and had alot of fun together. That is so great, I am envious. Mine just doesn't want to go anywhere. His excuse is that he doesn't want to leave Ginger!

Amy, glad you found us here too. You mentioned the headaches - I know alot of people have migranes around time for their periods, but I have not had that problem. I never have had many headaches, and if I did, most of them are sinus ones. I have not been to the Natchez Trace in many years, but it is really pretty. I think they have camp grounds around there too. Most times that I've been down that way, I was traveling to Jackson, MS. Again, my company has branch offices in Kansas - Lenexa, Wichita Falls to name a couple.

Jenney, glad you followed the trail here too. You know, I had forgotten about the hot pants, Nehru jackets, Mohair sweaters, etc. Funny about how we're wearing the bell bottoms and platform shoes again, isn't it. Had I known, I would have saved mine from years ago! I would have been right in style again. The only thing we had that I don't see now is the body suits that we used to wear with the hip huggers. But, these days we're trying to show our tummys rather than cover them up. I even had socks with different colored toes in them to wear with my platform sandals. Wow, you have a lot of dogs, don't you? Like I told you, there are many dog lovers on this thread. And Ontario - wow! Never been to Canada, but we have a huge office in Ontario. As you can see - we are all over the USA and Canada.

Molly, I agree with RMC, it sounds like you had a fun prom! I just went with one guy - and you went with 9!! I wasn't much in high school either. I was not popular because I was a "nice" girl, didn't drink, smoke, etc. I had my group of girlfriends, and we're still great friends to this day. Some of them live away, but we still email and keep up with each other.

On a menopausal note - do any of you ladies get really zonked feeling driving home from work? I will be fine when I leave, but by the time I'm halfway here, I get so sleepy that I go into this tracelike state and can't snap out of it. If you all don't hear from me anymore and it doesn't say "banned" under my name - you know that I had a wreck one day coming home from work. It's really scary, but I can't help it. It feels like I'm drugged! :eek:

well - I am off to the tanning salon for a bit. I will check back in on you ladies later!

Looks like everyone's onboard now. You all have been busy today. Think I'm going to have to quit my job so I can keep up here.
Jackie: Glad you found you're way over here. Hope you're week is better than last week for you. It's understandable to be a litle fuzzy with all that going on..
Molly: I think everyone on the planet would agree with you on the jury duty issue. I've been on something like 6 juries, including being the foreperson. You don't have to tell me it stinks. The last time was last year. 2 jurors just disappeared on the break and never came back, went thru 2 days of boring testimony, and just before we were going to the jury room to deliberate, they settled the case (civil). Talk about a waste of time! I love San Francisco..been there twice. Seen quite a bit of the northern part of Calif. Loved Yosemite, Big Sur, San Jose, ...beautiful part of the country.
And flying back home on the plane, I had the head phones going & they played BeeGees Massachusetts...boy did that make me homesick (guess where I'm from).
RMC: I loved the Gidget movies. I still watch them anytime they're on. I think I liked Elvis movies more than his music.
Amy: Isn't Kansas in "tornado alley"? That would really stress me out. I used to have nightmares over & over about tornados when I was a kid...probably from the Wizard of Oz movie.
Oh, and Amy, I didn't have headaches until I hit menopause. But one of my friends who is older than me has had awful migraines (with vomiting) every since I've known her. That's about 26-27 yrs. Everytime she get her period, whe get them. I can't even imagine going thru that every month.
Hi Jenny, Glad you've joined in the fun, Wow, you are a lucky lady having all those pets at home. That's really cool you have a retired greyhound...I hear they are great dogs.
Well ladies, I sure do remember all the things you've mentioned. The go-go boots, fishnet stockings, garter belts, Nehru jackets...boy I loved them! Always liked music, just was too klutzy to like dancing very much. All arms & legs & no co-ordination! So sports were out, but loved watching them (then, not now). I've always been a tomboy at heart, and would rather hang out with the guys than the girls. Still hate pantyhose, live in jeans, sneakers or boots. But do like to dress to the nines once in awhile and shock everyone!
Hope everyone is feeling pretty good & no bad symptoms going on from this meno-thing. Have a great night everyone and an even better tomorrow.

Thanks Hellas, good to hear from you tonight. Massachusetts - eh? Boy - we are all over - aren't we? Looks like I'm the only Southern Belle here. And no - I don't call people "sugah", but I do say "ya'll" lol.

RMC, I had forgotten your mention of the Gidget movies, and I loved those too. I thought James Darren was sooo cute! I would watch one right now if it was on. I liked the Tammy movies too. Did anyone ever see "Imitation of Life" with Sandra Dee in it? Oh my gosh, that movie used to make me cry like a baby!

Also, you mentioned taking dance lessons when you were growing up - well I did too. I took tap and ballet. I didn't take it as long as you did tho. I can remember my class dancing on a local TV show called "Pride of the Southland" that came on Saturday mornings. See - ya'll didn't know I was on tv - and made it to the big time, did ya?!! :)

Like Hellas says, have a good night and an even better day tomorrow, girls!

Jackie

Hi ...really fun to read all your posts and will try to answer them all in this post:

Molly : I know that I answered your note and posted earlier, but thought I'd say HI . See what you started with this thread!! LOL!! Hope you didn't have to go to jury duty today and that you are having a good evening. You will have to tell me if I guessed right or wrong with where you live!!

Jackie: Yes we were having some cooler temps but we are now getting mid 70s and 80s which I like. I like it hotter too. We had an unusually cool start to summer. It is very beautiful here, yes and the ocean and mts. are about an hour and a half away. The ocean is really our favorite place.

Yes, I am having more symptoms after my period this time than I had before. Like a backwards period. That is good to know that you have experienced that too.

You mentioned that it sounded like my husband and I have always been "so close"..yes I really still feel I am on my honeymoon even after 25 years and I know that is a fortunate feeling. He means everything to me and we both have always put each other first and our relationship first.

As far as feeling zonked when driving home ..yes at times I do. The fatigue just hits you at times doesn’t it? But please...be careful when you are driving!! Play some loud music!! LOL!!

Good to see that there are other Gidget fans out there like Hellas and you!! Yes, I was a Moondoggie fan too (James Darren!!) Yes I liked the Tammy movie too!! I did not see Imitation of Life with Sandra Dee but I was a big fan of hers.

So you were a celebrity!! : ) that must have been fun to be on local tv dancing.

Amy : How funny that you too went to see Elvis with your aunt!! He still sounded good when we saw him and it was fun to see my aunt in such awe over him (kind of like how acted when we saw Paul McCartney a few years ago!! LOL!!)

You asked about headaches. I am still getting my period by the way , am 51 and the headaches I have got at times before my period are of the sinus variety. Last year I got more intestinal stuff rather than the headaches. It made me want the headaches back as I can deal with that better than the intestinal bothers!! I am a bit more stable now with the symptoms but anxiety is a big issue for me on and off and a longer PMS in general.

You mentioned vacation ideas for you and your family and kids for the summer. Montana is very pretty and offers a lot of scenic areas. I mention that as it sounds like you all liked Colorado and Montana has the mts. too.

Jenny : Forgot about hot pants! I used to love those!!

You are a dog lover too I see!! Me too!! We have a cocker spaniel and he is a darling!! You mentioned your schnauzers and we have very close friends who have schnauzers and our dog just adores them!! They are two little females.We sometimes dog sit for them.


Hellas : You said you are from MA..originally or are you living there now? I love Boston too.

Glad to know there is another Gidget fan out there!! LOL!!There is just something very upbeat and just fun about them!!

You mentioned you were in menopause...when did your periods stop?



Well I think I covered everyone's notes. Hope you all have a great evening and have good day tomorrow.

Take care everyone!!

rmc

Hey Ladies!

It's been really quiet on here today, everyone must be really busy like me. Just wanted to drop in and say hi to everyone. I'm going out to dinner with three of my girlfriends tonight. We are going to Fridays. We started out together years ago in the same dept at work, and all of us are still here with the company except one. We get together for our birthdays and Christmas. The one that doesn't work here any more turned 50 yesterday so we're celebrating tonight. We always have fun. She is so different from us tho, her husband died about 17 years ago, and she's never remarried. She has lots of guy friends, and thats all she talks about when we get together and we try to steer the conversation in other directions! lol Of course - we could all talk about our menopause symptoms! :D What fun!! HA HA The last time we got together she had her a 29 year old boyfriend! She told us a little more than we wanted to hear :nono: ha

Well ladies, I hope when I get home I have lots of posts to read, and hope everyone has had a good day. Just think - tomorrow is Friday!! :bouncing:

Jackie

Hi All, Just been reading thru the new posts and really enjoy it. Make's everyone seem
like friends. It's nice.
RMC: Born & raised in MA...Been in the same town since I was 4, except for the year I (mistakenly)moved in with my (ex) BF. Boston was my stomping grounds during high school...whenever we cut school...we'd go hang out all day in town. A lot safer then, than now. I used to know it like the back of my hand, but now only go in there for things like jury duty, eye dr.,etc. Public transportation stinks!
Oh those days of Moondoggies! How come the guys in school were never like him? My other favorite was Troy Donahue.
Well, RMC, I stopped having periods 4-5 yrs ago. I was kind of glad cause peri, I think, is worse than meno. Not that menopause is any joy, but....you get used to all the weirdness of it. At least most of the time.
Hope you have fun with the girls tonight Jackie. Funny, I think there is a lady like your friend in every crowd.
I don't hang out with co-workers on any regular basis. Only company functions. I consider them friends, but I see them 8-9 hrs a day. That's enough for me. Besides, I really like to forget work when I walk out the door. Although my boss for the last 27 yrs retired today, and we're having a party for him Saturday. Food sounds good, and I love him like any other family member. But, I worry a little cause this meno has somehow given me a big mouth....and the owners will be there. I hope I don't forget who is around and say something stupid. Or i will be out of a job on Monday!
Well, it's gonna be hot here tomorrow and I have a wrinkled pair of capri pants that need ironing.
I've probably forgotten to respond to something here, but lots of reading and old brain don't mix!
Oh! I don't have much of a problem with getting groggy while driving home from work cause I only have a 3 mile commute. But if I have to sit at a light long enough I kind of drift off into the twilight zone and everyone starts beeping at me! Don't they know how dangerous it is to tick off someone with no hormones???
Hope everyone has a great Friday... gonna be hotter than you know what here this weekend. Yeah!!!!
Hellas

Hi Jackie and Hellas,

Just reading your posts from today. I know my post I left yesterday was pretty long!! LOL!! So I will try to keep this shorter...hard for me!! LOL!!

Jackie : Hope you had a good time at Fridays for your friend's 50th. Fridays is a fun place for a celebration. We will be going out on Sat for a friend's birthday too (52nd) and we are looking forward to it. She is picking a movie out that we are going to in the late afternoon and then the 4 of us will go to dinner afterwards.

I am glad it is Friday tomorrow too!! Friday is my favorite day of the week!!

Hellas You live in a very lovely part of the country. Last time we were back was for our 10th anniversary. It was a great trip. We went to Boston, stayed in a B&B, took in the sites and went to Lexington/Concord and then went to Cape Cod. Had lobster at those little lobster shacks that were all around the coast.

Oh, Troy Donahue!! Forgot about him!! Yes, he and "Moondoggie" were as they said in those movies...."dreamy"!! LOL!!

That is good news that menopause is easier than peri. You know it would have been nice for someone to tell us that years ago!! All we heard about or at least all I heard about was "going thru the change" and hot flashes and that was it. Never anything about the stuff leading up to it and all the other symptoms besides hot flashes!! Do you still have symptoms that bother you now that did in peri?

Well it was good to hear from you both and hope you are having a good evening.

have a good start of the weekend tomorrow!!

Take care,

rmc

Hey Ladies!

Just wanted to drop in and say hi to everyone. Well ladies, I hope when I get home I have lots of posts to read, and hope everyone has had a good day. Just think - tomorrow is Friday!! :bouncing:

Jackie

Hello back to ya Jackie.

Today is a ME day. I always have Fri and Sat off work but I took today as well (a long weekend for no reason). Also pay day so went grocery shopping (lots of chocolate too) and bought hubby a table lamp for his bedroom and then cleaned out the basement and spent almost an hour with hubby lugging "garbage" up and outside!!! How does anyone accumulate so much junk in 15 yrs?! Also had laundry doing at the same time.Discovered we have a minor leak in the hot water heater but it's ok cuz a contractor is already scheduled for next week to install our new one. Old one is 25 yrs old and we tend to run out of hot water...the leak is brand new today. Then went out for Chinese food and walked the dogs along the dyke...nice summer evening.

Tomorrow is vet time to pick up insulin and needles for the dog and then out to the Six Nations Reserve to get smokes. Saturday is the day we go out in the country and buy nice fresh veggies and strawberries from the local farmers' fruit stands.

All in all it was a nice pleasant day and not once did I loose my cool and snap at hubby...guess this is one of my good days.

Ta for now,
Jenney

Hey ladies,
Just dropping in tonight to get a quick note that I'm still around and thinkin' of all of you! Just haven't had time to really sit down and post back any responses! Have to work a bit tonight and tried posting last night but the darn cursor on my laptop kept moving around by itself and was very frustrating to try to type anything. This only started happening when I hooked up a wireless mouse! Anyway, will post again soon. Just wanted you guys know that I haven't forgotten any my menopausal sisters!

Oh, IMO means "in my opinion" - also, I live in San Francisco! :D

hugs,
molly :wave:

Hi Molly,

Good to "see" you!! I think we are on at the same time tonight. I posted a long one yesterday and after your first post so I won't make this a long one as you probably have a lot to read on here!! LOL!!

So...you live in one of my favorite cities!! As I said in a previous post I love visiting the city by the Bay!!

As for me I am doing okay, this cycle was kind of a backwards one as I had a harder time after getting my period last Fri than I did before it. It seems to have settled down from early this week . I found myself getting very anxious today though while just making a routine appt for a cholesterol recheck!! I know that was stupid. It is just routine, I had gone in Oct to my gyn and she does bloodwork during the annual. She said it was elevated from the year before although my good cholesterol ratio she said was very good and triglycerides were good. She said to just exercise more, lower fat intake and recheck in 6 months. Well, 6 months was May so I thought I should make the appt. I do not know why I was getting worked up as even if it has not come down I am sure she will just recheck again in a few months again. I think in peri with the estrogen fluctuating it does affect our cholesterol I have read. I was not happy with myself that I got worked up just making the appt!! I almost felt I should cancel and make it in another month and give myself more time to continue as I have with exercise and watching what I am eating to try and get it down more. Anyway, I gave myself a lecture!!

I just saw a note from Penny in the For Molly thread and was good to see that she posted. Glad her fatigue is a bit less. The fatigue just hits you at times.

Well here I said I wasn't going to make this long and I am going on and on!! Sorry!!

Always good to see a post from you and wanted to say HI!!

Hugs,

rmc

Hi Friends:
You all such nice women to listen too. I'm glad I've read that someone has said that meno. is easier than peri., because sometimes I feel like I'm being slowly tortured. I guess I need some feedback. I actually get to thinking that I'm doing better and than wham-o I will have a night from h&*#! I'll go to bed kind of panicky (usually worried that I'm going to have a nose bleed) but I'll get awakened by heart palpitations and weird pressure surges in my head, and I'll spend until noon trying to get the internal shakes to stop. Oh please tell me I'm not alone on this. Sometimes the heart palpitations get to be so bad that I can't believe my heart can keep going with that kind of rhythm. Do any of you have problems with fearful thoughts and obsess over them. I try SO hard not to! I've seen a couple of counselors for the anxiety, I pray, read my Bible, listen to CD's trying to get rid of the fearful thoughts, but sometimes it's like my body just goes into overdrive in this area! Please, any thoughts, anyone!
Amy

Hey ladies, :wave:

Finally finding some time to get back here. Boy! Was selected as an alternate for jury duty but got excused, thank goodness! There was a moment or two I think the judge was a bit annoyed with me. Think I had fuzzy/fog brain and couldn't focus on what she was asking so she had to repeat. But knowing me, I probably just wasn't listening! LOL! Well, after sitting there for hours and being menopausal, what's to expect!? It was rather stressful and nerve-wacking with all the questions they ask and the position they place you in, with everyone staring at you! RMC, you would've become anxious for sure - even I was! I actually had to take an anti-anxiety med Wed night after that ordeal!

Hey Jackie - Kiwi is a toy-sized dog but she isn't all that small in comparison to what some Yorkies can be nor is she as big as some. Yeah, I'm one of those ladies you see carrying their dog around in a "purse" but actually it's a dog bag. The bags I have are all casual like - nothing fancy; afterall, I'm a casual person - live mostly in shorts/jeans and t-shirts! How big was your Ginger? My Yorkie-Poos were 6#-8#. I really miss them and still get all choked up, tears in my eyes when I think of them!

Right after I was put on the Paxil CR and started to feel a little bit better, I started dancing around with Madonna music (her greatest hits) - very upbeat music. I like her old stuff better. I figure it was kind of like exercise plus I mentally was telling myself that I wasn't going to feel bad again. It seem to have worked! Hey, hope you had a good dinner last night at Fridays! They have those everywhere, don't they? What did you have? Pig out?

Hey RMC, hey, I had white go-go boots too! I think they were cheap ones, of course. Remember the suede lace-up boots? I wore them with hot pants! Gawd - what was I thinking? LOL!

You had a lot of dancing experience! Do you still dance? At one time I was checking out tap dancng lessons but didn't do it - got into aerobics instead. So, you live in Portland? I rains a lot there? Went on a road trip to Oregon years ago - that's where one I went to meet one of the friends I met over the net. I am drawing a blank as to actually where in Oregon - can't think of it right now. A small town. I am a native Californian but wasn't born in SF. I was actually born in the San Joaqin Valley - farmland.

Oh, you mention Gidget movies- you know, I remember watching Gidget but I don't remember any of the movies. I remember Tammy more - with Debbie Reynolds. Betcha you watched Leave It to Beaver - "hey Wally" "hey Beave"! LOL! The Donna Reed Show, My 3 Sons?!?!

Hi Amy, good to see you here too! I never saw Elvis but I did see the Beatles, The Jackson 5's, when Michael Jackson was very little. Growing up, I was more into Motown or R&B music.....think the music we listen to as kids have a lot to do with the schools you go to. You asked if any of us have bad headaches during our periods. Well, I used to get sinus-like headaches a few days before my period would come. I was always like a sign. But, when I was going thru my bad peri ordeal, I had weird head sensations all the time. They weren't painful - just felt spacey like and like this band was around my head. I hated them! I hated every peri symptom!

Hey Jenney - also good to see you here! The more, the merrier! You mentioned railroad pants....what are those? You also have a houseload of pets! I have a neighbor who has three retired greyhounds and a Biscon. They are really mellow and don't take up too much space! Went over there and I could barely see them - they kind of blended in with the furniture and all - they just lay there. My little dog gets along great with them too. I have relatives (my mom's side) in Canada - Vancouver and Edmonton. Never been there tho.

Hey Hellas, I laughed when you wrote that you were going to quit your job so you can keep up with the postings here! That's what I think I'm going to have to do too! Re your experience with jury duty - how can 2 jurors just disappear on their break? Wow - pretty gutsy of them - sure they got in trouble! I understand you're from MA. That's where my BF is from. We've gone to Boston several times - I took my dog with me too. He was raised in Medford but his mom lives in Stoneham now. We go there to eat! LOL! The lobster, clams are big and great!! Have to admit the driving scares me a bit - those circular things they have there and the off ramp on the highway is right after the on ramp! Also, you can be in one town one minute and then suddenly within 2-mins. you are in another. Boston have all the pretty trees/leaves - I have great pics of my little dog in Boston Common swallowed up in leaves! Because she is black/tan-gold color, you can't see her in the bush of leaves! It came up to my knees! However, I don't recall seeing too many flowers and dogs! LOL!

Hey, you mentioned that you're all arms & legs when it comes to dancing! I know you're really tall and thin - in one of my other posts, I asked what cartoon character you think you are - Olive Oil, perhaps? :D Oh, one of my favorite BeeGee DVD right now is their "One Night Only" - live performance - but all the songs are so good!! The CD is good too but it doesn't have all the songs like the DVD. Troy Donahue? Wow, I remember him - he was cute! Is he still around?

I also never hung out with co-workers on a regular basis either. When I used to work outside of my home in a corporation, I deliberately made an effort to stay private. I find, esp. working w/lots of women, they are very catty and backstabbers and always out for themselves. I just didnt need it or them in my life. I was perfectly capable of being myself at lunch and just going home afterwards. I avoided company functions - if they were during company time, I would have vacation plans; if they were during afterhours, I wouldn't go - couple of times, someone said something to me about not going and how I should b/c I was a supvr. I told that person, I didn't care and it was my own time and I could whatever I wanted.

I apologize if I overlooked anything. I have been behind with these postings for a couple of days, I'm old and the old bonker doesn't work that well sometimes! LOL! Well, it's TGIF so I hope all of you ladies have a fine day and a great weekend! I'm sure I'll be hearing from all of you again! Have fun! :bouncing:

hugs,
molly

Hi Amy,

I know exactly what you mean about the anxiety at bed time (and other tmies) and also the heart palpitations. Last year I got them more often than this year it seems and I know when I did my anxiety level raised. It was always at night too it seemed. I have got them now and then this year (in fact the other night) and it is so unsettling. I know I have mentioned this before in other posts but there is a book called The Pause that goes thru each symtpom in peri including that one and it explains the whys of it and suggestions if possible. It is really helpful.

I too get the weird kind of pressure feeling in my head and my ears get plugged feeling ...makes one feel foggy. I have had the internal shakes a couple times and it was a couple times too many...it was awful so I can relate to how you are feeling about them.

Anxiety over everything and fretting over things I normally wouldn't seems to be the biggest problem for me. It was really bad last year for about 3 months and then settled down until this year when it came back in full force, again for a few months. Now it is more stable but still find I have to try and keep it at bay.

So believe me you are not alone. I wish I could offer more help on how to deal with it all. You said you were " praying , reading, listening to cds" trying to "get rid of the fearful thoughts" and that is the very best thing to do..to try to get your mind off of it and on to something else. Now, granted when I was in that anxiety mode full force it was very hard to do but I try to push myself to do it and just taking one step at a time seems to help. Don't be hard on yourself. Pamper yourself and do things that bring you joy and relaxation.

Keep posting too as I think venting about it really helps, I know it does for me.

Take care,

rmc

Hi Molly,

Have a moment this a.m. and saw your note so thought I'd answer.

Re : Jury Duty...you went further than me in the process. I went last year, my number was called, and they brought about 30 of us into this room. They asked a whole bunch of questions as you said and I was one of the ones they grilled as I told them I could not be impartial!! (I really don't think I could in some cases). So they really focused on me (and a couple others). It was more annoying to me than anxiousness that I felt to be honest. I was nervous for sure but not in the same way my anxiety has cropped up normally. Then I just was annoyed that the one lawyer kept grilling me , like I was on the stand!! Anyway they excused me and I was thrilled!! Glad you are done with that ordeal also!!

I wish I could take my cocker with me everywhere!! He does come a lot of places with us though. Wish I could take him to work though!!

I like early Madonna too and it is good workout music.

I do remember suede lace up boots , but didn't have any although i wanted them at the time.

I did have a lot of dancing experience and love it. I have always taken it in some fashion even as an adult, now in Jazzercize as I said as it is dance based. But I am not taking it as far as a dance class now. I do love to go out and dance but we have not done that in awhile. Last year a friend had her 50th birthday and it was a 50s theme and all music from that era, really enjoyed dancing all night to that. I would love to take a tap dance class also but need to get my ankle stronger for that. I love tap dancing and think I am a frustrated Rockette! LOL!!

Yes I did watch "the Beav" (still do some times!! LOL!!) and yes, I loved the Donna Reed Show and also watched My 3 Sons (had a crush on Robbie!! LOL!!)

You actually saw the Beatles ...I am really envious!! Would have loved to.

Again, great to hear from you and have a fun weekend!!


Hugs,

rmc

Happy Friday Girls :bouncing:

I just took a peek to see who'd been here, and it looks like everyone has been here but Jenney and I! So - I decided to stay in at lunch today and visit with my friends here. Ok - I'm cheating - I just printed out all the posts so I could hopefully remember everything :D First - we did have a good time last night, and my friend wasn't as vocal about her "guys" last night so it was cool. I usually don't socialize with most people from work, but my dearest and best friends are some of the people I have worked with for years. They are some of the best ladies I have ever known, and true blue, I love them like sisters. I had a great salad of course - you know I'm addicted to them. It was a Pecan Crusted chicken salad. VERY GOOD!!!

Hellas, I have been at my company for 27 years too. I've had several different jobs in different departments, but with the same company. We've changed our name three times :eek: as we were bought by a German company in 1999 an then they merged with another German company - so we're now known as ThyssenKrupp Elevator - and half the people can't spell it - much less say it!! lol We used to be "Dover" elevator and that was alot easier to spell and pronounce!
Molly - sounds like you just don't really like to socialize - but I remember you saying in the Molly thread that you were mostly a homebody. I guess I am just the opposite - always wanting to be doing something and with other people. There are times I like to chill out at home, but for the most part - I like to socialize. I can just see you in hot pants and suede lace up boots - you were a hottie I bet! lol I honestly don't remember what I wore with my hot pants. I had some green velvet like ones. My Ginger is almost 10 lbs, but she was 5.5 lbs when we got her (at two years of age). My Yorkie Poo was probably more like 12 lbs or 14 lbs, I really can't remember. (Jenney, do you have a dog with diabetes? My Yorkie Poo developed that and we had to put her to sleep) That was very traumatic for us both, so I know how you feel Molly.

Do you like KC & The Sunshine Band? I love them, and used to love to do the "Bump" to their music. Their music is still fun to dance to and I would think exercise to also. And yes - I did watch all the TV shows you mentioned, as well as Ozzie and Harriet.

I spoke to the branch manager of our SF office today, and he said that temps there was holding around 68-70 degrees. Holy cow - it's a sweltering 98 degrees here today and we're under a smog advisory.

RMC You've posted twice since I was on last! Good to hear from you. I want you to know that I have found the best stuff for my hair!! I am so excited :bouncing: I am now using the Dove shampoo for color treated hair that is the volumizing one, the volumizing moose, and just bought the spot lifter spray or whatever it was called and it has a nozzle like thing where you can lift and spray toward your roots and it's great! It's the best thing I have ever used. My hair actually looks like I want it to. You and Amy were talking about the weird head sensations. All this time I thought it was my allergies and wondering why my meds weren't working - and now I am thinking it is a peri symptom!! I never would have thought that, but the way you two describe it, I think that's exactly what it is. When I get that weird spacey, band like feeling the most is when I'm driving home and I can't seem to shake it. Sometimes I have to take a nap when I get home, it's so bad!

Amy It sounds like you are really having a hard time like I was before I got on Lexapro. I can relate to every bit of it. The anxiety, obsessive thoughts, etc - I also tried to pray my way out of it, even had my bible study group to pray for me several times, tried herbals - nothing helped. Nothing until I got on Lexapro. I honestly don't have ANY symptoms now, except maybe this head pressure thing. Lexapro has been a life saver for me. Have you tried it? I had those heart palpations pretty bad last year. I was afraid something was really wrong with me!

Jenney It sounds like you had a good day off. I take off for long weekends sometimes too. Just good to get away from the office and relax. My hubby is on disability, so he's home all the time too. If I could just get him to do my housework - hey, I would have it made!

Well, guess I will get up and stretch these short legs for a bit. Good to hear from all you girls, and I hope you have a great weekend!

Jackie

RMC - you were posting at the same time as I was I see. Would you believe that my dance teacher was a former Rockette? Too funny that you just said that, so I had to throw that in. Portland sounds so pretty. I wish I could come vist all you ladies - everyone seems to be from an exciting city. I did go to Seattle several years ago for a tradeshow, and it was very pretty. Didn't rain either! Mt. Ranier was awesome. I meant to tell you earlier, (again), I think you and your husband have such an awesome relationship. I love my husband very much, but he kind of does his thing and I do mine. I envy you that you both love the same things and do everything together. That is very rare, and I think it's wonderful. Do you have any children?

Take care, and happy Friday!!

Jackie

You Gals are the BEST!
Thanks for letting me know about your experiences with the heart palpitations and weird "head stuff"!!! Obsessive and fearful thoughts, etc. You get so crazy with this stuff that you just lose touch with reality and can't focus on anything - which is why I can't really respond to anyone individually at the moment. I agree I wish I could come visit all of you ladies too - everyone is living such interesting and fun lives. I can't remember what movies Troy Donahue were in - did he have blonde hair? I love all those movies you all were talking about and the Bee Gees are completely awesome, it's so sad that Maurice died though.

Well, everyone hug their dogs and husbands and thanks again for the response about the peri. stuff. This is something I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.
Amy

Hey Amy,
I been thru everything you described and survived! It was the worse time of my life and I just wanted to die! I had the heart palps, which were really scary b/c you can feel your heart pounding and it just goes on and on. With me, it seemed like all my symptoms hit me all at once the year I turned 50. I had those weird head sensation feeling too - kind of spacey like - I've always described it like I wan't quite all there - like I'm not in the physical being. I would dwell on how bad I was feeling everyday, every minute - drove people crazy from hearing me whine. I couldn't work, couldn't drive, didn't want to be alone. I would freak out whenever I was out. I would think going out would help, once I'm out, I want to go home, once I'm home, I want to be out! It was anxiety - I am a pacer when it comes to anxiety too! You are NOT alone! Are you taking any Magnesium? If not, start taking that - 1,000 mg daily - 500 mg at bedtime! I think it will help w/ the heart palps and those horrible internal shakes! For the life of me, I don't know why they (drs. & authors) don't emphasize more on these types of symptoms - hot flashes are hot flashes and it's easy to identify them, but these other symptoms are so much more intense and scarier. Unfortunately, I can't tell you how long it will lasts for you - it's all different for all of us but keep in mind that we're here for you!!!

hugs,
molly

God Bless You Molly for the encouragment!!!! I take a great multi-vitamin, plus extra C, Calcium, Magnesium and Potassium, exercise, eat right and I loved everything you said in your post - it was ME!!!! I'm also a pacer, which has practically worn our carpet out! When I get this bad with these symptoms, I have also noticed I go through periods where I can barely taste anything sometimes. It's a weird sensation, almost like my mouth has been numbed. This is all just so weird!!!
AGAIN, THANKS TO YOU ALL FOR EVERYONE'S HELP!!!
Amy

Hey RMC, As with Jury Duty and them grilling you - that's how I felt. The judge came on kind of strong towards me b/c I said "I wasn't sure if I could be fair - maybe - would like to think I could." She kept hounding me - think she wanted just a yes or no answer and I didn't do it. Sometimes I didn't understand all the legal terms either (duh! - I'm not very bright). Anyway, it was kind of embarrassing but at least I spoke my mind even tho I'm sure there were others that wanted to but were chicken.

Hey, having my breast surgery and having to go to Jury Duty were the first times in a long time when I had to leave my dog at home by herself. It probably stressesd me out more than her - but she pants a lot and does have separation anxiety so I'm sure she was stressed too. I think one of the reasons why she is such a good dog is b/c she goes everywhere - she is well socialized and b/c I work from home, she isn't left alone and not stressed much. She is in good shape for a dog her age.

You sound like a serious dancer! That's so great! You probably have really good posture. I wish I got into dancing. I love watching dancers - they have some TV shows on dancing these days (kind of like American Idol stuff). I used to do the Cha-cha too - was really good at that.

Yes, I've always gotten the impression that Portland rained a lot. SF has weird weather. It could be hot one day, cold the next, fog in the morning, humid by noon. I noticed we have been having a lot more hot weather than in past years. One year it was 103! Can't stand it! I ended up buying 2 portable A/C - both cost me about $3,500. Was even thinking of putting in central air but I recently spent big bucks on fixing my yard and some balconies I have. Everyone thinks I'm nuts! I am not a high-maintenance person - only when it comes to my comfort!

Hey Jackie - it's not that I don't like to socialize - I don't like crowds, I guess. I'll go to a neighbor low-key BBQ or we have these block parties where I can easily disappear if I want to. I guess I hate to doll up. As I've gotten older, I find it's just a pain to dress up and I guess I've done that, been there. You have to remember where I live - there are a lot of weirdos out here too. I do remember KC & the Sunshine band - in fact, they were on TV recently. I forgot about Ozzie & Harriet - have to admit Ricky was cute - too bad he died so young. I like his music too - Traveling Man....

Well, ladies, I got to go - it's close to noon and I got to meet my friend and walk the dogs!

Have a good one,
molly

Jackie,

I am on a break and saw your note. Yes think we were posting at the same time there!!

Your evening at Fridays sounded fun. I love that Pecan crusted chicken salad by the way!!

I had forgotten about KC and the Sunshine Band. I liked them too. The Bump was one of my favorites when I was in college!! LOL!!

That is so great the Lexapro is working so well for you. perhaps I should have got thru the nausea I had with it. My anxiety is better but have to admit it does crop up and I feel it is always peeking over my shoulder ready to pounce!! I try to ignore it and have been more successful lately than let's say a month or so ago.

I envy you the hot weather there!!

Thanks for the tip on the Dove shampoo. Is the mousse Dove too? Funy you mention it is volumnizing as that is what I need for my hair which is kind of fine and not much body unfortunately.

That is ironic that one of your dance teachers was a Rockette and here I mentioned that!! We saw them once when they were in town and it was exciting to see them.

I have heard good things about Memphis from friends who have visited there. Everyone also talks about the great barbeque there!!

You asked if we have children. No ,by choice. How about you? I think i read you did not either?

Hope you have a fun weekend and enjoy the heat!! We are going to rent a movie tonight I think and enjoy the weather on our deck beforehand. Tomorrow we will be celebrating a friends birthday going out to a movie I think of her choice and dinner and on Sunday we are having my husband's brother over for dinner; he is a like brother to me so we are all close. Have not a clue yet what we will be making...so need to put some thought into that!!

Good to hear from you!!

have a good one,

rmc

Holy Gaucomole Batman! I can't keep up with all of you. Try to make this quick, cause once again, I'm getting everyone confused. Let's see I can do this without mixing everyone up.
RMC: Thanks for the concern from that other thread. I'm doing much better after being forced into doing some exersize for the rib thing. ALways had spine problems, but got a wee bit worse since you know what arrived! Peri was worse, I think, because it was all new and unexpected. I expected hot flashes, even looked forward to them, being cold all the time. So right now I'd have to say the anxiety is the worse symptom I have. That, and lots of aches & pains.
Molly: San Francisco is still one of my absolute favorite cities. Course haven't been there in yrs, but the memories I have are awsome. And you aren't going to belive this, but I was born in Medford. Moved to the coast when I was 4 yrs old. How weird is that??? I've been going to the zoo over in Stoneham every year since I was 4. It's changed a lot, not for the better, but still go there almost every year. Probably go on my vacation in July, even if I have to go alone. Although it isn't the same since, Major, the polar bear died a couple of yrs ago. He'd been there for as long as I can remember.
Yes, Troy Donahue is still around. He was in some TV sci-fi movie a couple of yrs ago. I remember him best from A Summer Place with Sandra Dee. (Still my favorite song.) Better off remembering him as he was...boy did he get old!!!
Amy: Sorry your having such a hard time with peri. I get palpitations too, but thought it was from my mitral valve prolapse. Just assumed that.
ANd I still have anxiety attacks....just as I drift off to sleep...BAM! It will hit me. Waking up in the morning I get them too. I spend have the day bouncing around the office cause I can't sit still for long. ANd I've done all the things you do too. Pray, read the Bible, or try to do something artistic, casue that takes concentration and uses a different part of the brain.. so it distracts me from the anxiety and I can get lost for hrs while working on some art project. And doing little things for you to make you feel good is a must. Take time just for you...be selfish & good to yourself.
Jackie: Wow! 27 yrs for you too? We've had 4 different names...all pretty much the same owners, just the owners we have now were in the beginning, just part owners. Now they own us lock, stock & barrell! It hasn't been a good change. So how come you've been there for 27 yrs. I've stayed because I need stability & hate change. It's a security issue I guess.
Well, so much for keeping this short. Hope I haven't neglected anyone. Never intentionally, if I have.
HAve a great weekend. Got to go iron some "girl" clothes to wear to tomorrow's retirment party. Stay Cool.
Group Hug!
Hellas

P.S. Can't seem to type anymore either. Brain races faster than I can type.
Hope above made some sense!

Evening Ladies!

Amy, hang in there, we all know what you're going thru, and like Molly said, we're here for support. And it's like RMC (I think) said, all we ever heard about beforehand about menopause was about the hot flashes and night sweats - not all the other freaky stuff! I knew women tended to get emotional during that time too, but I didn't realize it was that bad. Whew! I have to say that the breaking point for me was the severe depression I seemed to be headed toward. That coupled with the anxiety really scared me. It feels so good not to feel that way now and not to have the obsessive thoughts.

Molly, I remember know you saying what a horrible time you had going thru peri. I wonder why your peri experience was so extreme? I feel for you, and thank God that mine wasn't to that extent. It was bad enough, but I could function. I'm just so glad that you got better and got past all that! Do you live in downtown SF? I would have liked to ride one of the trolley cars while I was there, but really didn't have time to do much. Where you're at these cities for work functions, you don't have much time to play. I guess I had more play time when I went to Chicago. We went a couple of days early tho.

RMC, yes I am Dove all the way on hair products now. My friend Polly has long fine hair and had told me how much she liked the shampoo, as I have tried every kind of volumizing shampoo they make, and nothing really made any difference, but Dove actually does. It also has light conditioners in it too so it nourishes your hair and builds body at the same time. The styling spray I was talking about is their Precision Volume lift & hold hairspray. Some excellent stuff! I need all the help I can get with my thin hair. Wish I had Molly's great hair! :)

Evening Ladies!

Amy, hang in there, we all know what you're going thru, and like Molly said, we're here for support. And it's like RMC (I think) said, all we ever heard about beforehand about menopause was about the hot flashes and night sweats - not all the other freaky stuff! I knew women tended to get emotional during that time too, but I didn't realize it was that bad. Whew! I have to say that the breaking point for me was the severe depression I seemed to be headed toward. That coupled with the anxiety really scared me. It feels so good not to feel that way now and not to have the obsessive thoughts.

Molly, I remember know you saying what a horrible time you had going thru peri. I wonder why your peri experience was so extreme? I feel for you, and thank God that mine wasn't to that extent. It was bad enough, but I could function. I'm just so glad that you got better and got past all that! Do you live in downtown SF? I would have liked to ride one of the trolley cars while I was there, but really didn't have time to do much. When you're at these cities for work functions, you don't have much time to play. I guess I had more play time when I went to Chicago. We went a couple of days early tho.

RMC, yes I am Dove all the way on hair products now. My friend Polly has long fine hair and had told me how much she liked the shampoo, as I have tried every kind of volumizing shampoo they make, and nothing really made any difference, but Dove actually does. It also has light conditioners in it too so it nourishes your hair and builds body at the same time. The styling spray I was talking about is their Precision Volume lift & hold hairspray. Some excellent stuff! I need all the help I can get with my thin hair. Wish I had Molly's great hair! :)

I completely understand about not wanting children. I never had a burning desire to have them either, although my husband would have really liked us to have one. With all that he has put me thru in the last 23 years, I don't know what I would have done with a child too! We sure had some trying times. He has been married before and has a son (or so we thought) who is 24. Now his son is saying that his mom told him a long time ago that he wasn't my husband's so he hasn't had anything to do with us in several years. He's married and has a little two year old daughter that may or may not be our grandaughter and mostly likely will never see. We didn't even know he had gotten married until months later - and heard it by accident. We can't get him to take a DNA test, and our lawyer hasn't been able to get any where with it. His ex is a piece of work, I will tell you that. It's a heart breaking thing for him, he loves that boy so much. He turned two, two days after we got married, so I had a part time child, so that was enough for me. I pretty much took care of him the weekends we had him anyway.

It sounds like you have a fun weekend planned. I went by and rented another movie tonight too. I finally got a copy of "Hitch" with Will Smith. I have heard that it is hilarious. I need a good laugh! I know that you will have fun at the party tomorrow night, it sounds like fun.

You are right about Memphis having good Barbeque. It's the best in the states - no doubt! My husband has won lots of BBQ cooking contests, his is hard to beat. We have Memphis in May that is a month long celebration that has a huge BBQ cooking contest on the River. It's big time! Oh - and I will trade this steamy hot weather for yours any time!

Hellas, you crack me up sometimes with the things you say. Good to make us laugh, for we all need it! I know what you mean about not being able to sit still sometimes. I am the same way. I used to love to read, but I can't seem to sit down and focus on it now. I meant to tell you that I read another thread you were on the other night about supplements for your joints. I have some friends that swear by the Glucosomine Cronditin and fish oil. Have you tried that? I am glad that I don't have those problems, as it would make it hard for me to exercise. I'm with you - A Summer Place was my favorite Troy Donohue movie too. He was so dreamy back then. You're right - better to remember him, Robert Redford and some of the others the way they USED to be!

Jenney - hope you're doing ok and enjoying your days off. Check back in with us with you can.

As Hellas said - "Group Hug" and hang in there :bouncing:

Jackie

Hey Jackie, I would try the glucosamine Chondroitin, except it has sulfates in it, and they make me break out in hives. Have to get the fish oil. I've been taking flaxseed oil, but doesn't seem to be doing anything for the achiness.
Jackie, if I lose my (weird) sense of humor, then I'll know I'm in trouble.
And boy did you make that BBQ sound good. I have a flight attendant friend in Memphis. Well, more of an acquaintance. Now he's a funny guy! A bit odd, but funny kid. I think I'd like Memphis. Love country music. Hard to get that up here in Yankee-land. The one or 2 radio stations we do have are too far away to get clearly.
My mom loved Elvis and my sister liked him. Even being shy, I was the rebel in my tastes. I liked the early Rolling Stones stuff bettter. Must be mellowing in my old age. Now I like country and opera!!!
How come the Dove doesn't work on my hair!? Mine is like baby hair. Fine, straight & thin. I've given up on trying to poof it up. Forget it in this heat anyway! It'll fall flat in 5 minutes with the humidity. Do you think meno causes it to get even thinner? I seem to have a bigger forehead than I used to. All I need is to go bald, too!
Have a good night.
Hellas

All you girls crackle me up!! And I need the laughter too, as everyone has stated. Hellas you take the cake with country music and opera!!!! What a mix - I love it! I was having such a bad morning that I went and had acupuncture this afternoon and it has helped a lot already. I'd love to take Lexapro but I don't tolerate SSRI's well at all. Tylenol is about as extreme as I can go medicine-wise. And I'm with the straight thin hair crowd, and can't wait to try the Dove shampoo that someone suggested. I'm always looking for new fun hair products. I don't have any good hair tips, but I can pass on a great, easy recipe. My husband and I are mentors for our son's Robotics Team and one of the girls brought these in for dessert, they are to-die-for!

Oreo Mini-Cheesecakes
18-24 Oreos, placed in the bottom of foil cupcake baking cups
2 (8 oz.) packages cream cheese, softened
3/4 cup sugar
2 eggs
2 teaspoons vanilla extract
1/2 cup chocolate mini-morsels

Preheat oven to 350 degrees. Combine cream cheese, sugar, eggs, vanilla until smooth, then stir in chocolate mini-morsels. Place oreo cookie in the bottom of each cupcake foil placed on top of a baking sheet and spoon on cheesecake mixture until 2/3 full. Bake for 15-25 minutes (depending on how fast your oven cooks) remove from oven and cool completely. Store in refrigerator.

Hope tomorrow is a great day for everyone. Thanks again for the encouragement, laughter and friendship!!!!
Amy

Hellas, I forgot that you said you couldn't take Glucosamine because of the sulfates. My mom has arthritis and my hubby has osteoarthritis and degenerative disc disease. He's in pain 24/7. I hope I never get it for one, because my stomach is so sensative, I couldn't take anything for it.

You like country music, what a hoot. A yankee with country music tastes. I love it too. Do you like Rascal Flatts? My best friend Polly and my other good friend and I went to see them back in March. Blake Shelton was with them, and he was great too.

I forgot to reply to your question in the other post about why I had been at the same company for so long. I guess same as you - security and scared of change. Plus, they feel like my family. I have so many good friends there, I'd be lost any where else.

As far as the thinning hair - I definitely think alot of women's hair gets thinner when they get older. My mom's is so thin you can see her scalp all over. If mine ever got that bad, I'll be wearing a wig! Have you tried the Dove lift & spray spot lifter? I just started using that and it really works good on my hair without it feeling like wire. When mine was short, it looked alot thicker, but now that I'm growing it out long again, the sides are thin and the back is plenty thick. The girl I work with's hair is so thick she has to have it thinned. I told her I wish we could even it up, we'd both be in good shape.

Well, guess I'd better get back to cleaning carpets. Got a wild hair tonight to do it. My carpet cleaner was broken and we had to get it fixed, so thought I'd "Get er done" lol!!

Nite!

Amy, glad you're feeling better. I forgot that you got accupuncture, and glad it helps you. The recipe you gave sounds really good. I love cheesecake - especially ones with an Oreo crust!

Have a good night!

Hi Everyone,

Was online checking messages before bedtime and you all have been very busy!! LOL!! So thought I'd respond to your posts....

Molly : I know exactly how you felt at Jury Duty...as I was the same way. I spoke my mind and I don't think they liked that much!! I think they would have preferred "yes" or "no" and wanted me to say I'd be impartial in the case definitely and I could not.

You said you wish you had got into dancing, but you sound like you do love to dance and are good at it. You mentioned the Cha-Cha. My husband and I took ballroom type dancing once and it was things like the waltz, foxtrot, and also the cha-cha. I really liked that one a lot. The others were ok , our problem was I have a bad tendency to lead and that is not good in waltz or something like that!! LOL!!

What you said about San Francisco weather is what we have experienced. It can be humid one day and then cold the next and it seems to depend where you are in the Bay area too. When we visit my husband's aunt and uncle it can be one way there and then we go into the City and it is different. We always enjoy it though as I said and it is one of our favorite places. Since we usually are there at the beginning of holiday season it is fun to see the city all decked out in Christmas decorations and such.

Jackie : You talked a bit about your depression and anxiety in peri. I know you are on the Lexapro now but how long were your symptoms bothering you before you started taking it?

I got one of the Dove products today...the volumnizing mousse...is that one of the ones you have? It really does "lift" which my hair needs.

That is very sad that your husband's son doesn't want anything to do with him after you both had him in your life from an early age. That has to be very hard on your husband and you.

You said you rented Hitch. I have heard too it is funny...so how was it? We rented Beyond the Sea which is the story of Bobby Darin with Kevin Spacey doing a great job in the role, even singing. After all my talk about Gidget it brought to mind Sandra Dee and so when I saw this at the store it reminded me we wanted to see it when it came out. It was not a great movie but interesting and the music was good.

That is impressive that your husband has won some BBQ contests..bet it is delicious!!

You said your husband has a degenerative disc ...that is terrible he is in pain 24/7!! Can they do nothing to help him in the way of physical therapy? I can't imagine being in that discomfort. I have a back problem and they say I have degeneration at L4 and 5 and it is due to something I did as a kid (guess they can tell this from the way it is) They say it may have been no big deal as a kid but as we get older it starts to act up. I sure hope whatever I did I enjoyed as I now am paying for it. Just the aches from that is enough for me so can't imagine what your husband goes thru. Luckily mine is not bothersome all the time and is manageable and I can do something for it.

You are ambitious doing your carpets tonight..good for you!!

Hellas I'm with you that the peri symptoms were so unexpected. Like I said all we ever heard was "hot flashes" and "moods" and there is a LOT more!! LOL!! I think we were duped!! The anxiety is the worse for me too as it maginifies everything else.

From your post it sounds like you live near the coast, that must be beautiful.
You sound very artistic..what type of art projects do you do?

Opera and country music!! You have diverse musical tastes which I think is great!! But I did picture all of the sudden Pavorotti in a cowboy hat!! LOL!! I like all types of music also..from the stuff we grew up with ..Beatles, Rolling stones, Creedence Clearwater, Bee Gees,etc...to more current things...Counting Crows and Green Day. I do like some country and heard some Keith Urban recently and like him.

You sound like you have a great sense of humor and we all need that , that is for sure!!

Amy : : that is great the acupuncture is working. What do you feel it helps you with? I am curious as I have considered it also. There is someone on this board that posts (think her "name" is Armadillo Pie) and she mentions that acupuncture has helped her peri symptoms.

You mentioned that you can take tylenol. I have found recently that Tylenol for Women helps me when I have a bad cycle. A friend swears by it and I gave it a try this past month and it did help.

I empathize with the hard peri time you have been having and my heart goes out to you with it, as a good part of the first part of this year and also last year same timeframe (3 months each time it seemed) I have had a hard time too. I still battle with the anxiety and obsessive thoughts about the symptoms. I hate that!! This board and all of you has helped me put it into perspective that I am not alone in feeling this way and that has helped.

Thanks for the great recipe!! Sounds yummy!! I love to cook and one of the things I bake is Oreo Cheesecake. I make it usually once or twice a year for a special occassion.

Well everyone thanks for the posts and for listening!! It is wonderful to chat with you!!

All of you have a great weekend!!

Take care,

rmc

Hi all, Amy..gonna try the cheescake for the 4th. Sounds awesome & easy. Plus cheesecake is one of my favorites.
Jackie, Haven't tried that Dove product. JUst the shampoo & cond. I'll look for it. I actually like some of the older country music best. Really hard to find, though. But love Reba Mcintyre, Vince Gill, My all time favorite were the Gatlin brothers.
Geez, that's sad about your husband son not wanting to see him. Sometimes it takes kids a long time to come around. Divorce hurts everyone involved, doesn't it. One our work associates was in similar situation with his ex and son. OUt of the blue this year, the son called him and asked if he wanted to meet is grandchild. He was so happy about it. And they're slowly getting to know each other again. Now he has another grandchild on the way..he found out on Father's Day. He sure looks a lot happier since all this happened. Miracles do happen.
Rmc, I've beeing into art things all my life. I'll do anything artistic & probably have at one time or another. Right now I'm into carpentry. Small stuff, since I live in an apartment & space is limited. Made a nice nightstand for myself that's nice & tall like me! Made it from pine flooring that I got from one of the guys at work when he put in a new floor. I design as I go, more or less, then build it. It's fun. Made a deck table, spice rack, art workbench,coffee table and this computer desk I'm at. Also like working with copper (sculpture type things). Artistic things are a great stress reliever, and everone has that in them...we all did it as kids. And when you're done with a painting, drawing, whatever it is, it is extremely satisfying. It's my hiding place that I go, when meno anxiety gets bad, or life gets bad.
well, guess I better get my but in gear...still have to iron something to wear in a couple of hours.
I'll check in later on tonight. Take care ladies.

rmc:
You asked which symptoms that acupuncture helped with the most... the anxiety and the heart palpitations. I don't know how, but it works like a miracle. I slept really well and woke up SO much better today. Actually, it has helped me sleep better, which could just be a by-product of less anxiety. I decided yesterday that I'll probably go once or twice a month to have it done, about one or two days after my period stops since like you guys, that's when all my symptoms seem to flair up the worst.

Hellas:
I wish you were my next door neighbor, since you like to build all that neat stuff! I'd love to learn how to do that. I'm a graphic designer and for me doing anything artistic right now makes me a hundred times more nervous - I guess since its a "job". So maybe I should just get down to the garage and start learning to build stuff. Maybe it would help with the "nerves". Or the days when it's really bad I could just shoot the nail gun into the wall!

Sorry I haven't addressed everyone in my post, but this is a start... I'm starting to get sweaty from having to think.

Have a great Saturday~
Amy

Don't you ladies ever sleep? Boy! Come on this a.m. and see all these postings! Wow! You guys been very active, that's a good sign! I have to open two browsers in order to go back and forward and read and respond! Wish there was a better way we can correspond!

Hellas - you are so funny! There were couple of things you wrote that really cracked me up; such as Holy Gaucomole Batman! and that you had a bigger forehead than you're used to! You said you had spine problems, aches and pain. Have they diagosed you with some kind of condiiton? Do you spine making clicking noises when you bend? Once in a while, mine will do that and I feel like I need an oil job. Also, not everyone gets hot flashes so don't be surprised if you don't get them. That was one of the latter symptoms I started getting and now they are very minimal.

You said you were born in Medford! Wow! Now, it's a small world. Wouldn't surprise me if you know my BF even! The times when we were in MA, we would go to Medford and get these sub sandwiches - it's at a place called LaCausa (sp) or something like that. It's near the projects where my BF grew up. They make the bread there and put this Italian sauce in the sandwich. The cold cuts are really different there--better--sliced very thin and the salami seems different. We go back there to visit but to eat too - Dunkin Donuts! You said you moved to the coast - refresh me brain, please is that in MA? Is that near Revere? We went there to eat lobster roll!

Jackie, I worked for a large corporation for 26 years. I had a lot of time accumulated and due to a harassment/discrimination case I had against my boss, I used up all my sick leave before I left. That was a very bad time for me. Lost 35# that time, broke out in hives all over my body (thank goodness not on my face) which left a lot of scars on my back and arms. But, I'm glad it happened otherwise I would still be there probably and hating it. It turned out to be the best thing that ever happened. So beware ladies, whenever a co. suddenly decide to reorganize and bring on a strange man out of nowhere, he's there to get rid of long-term people! He's the hatchet man!

You asked why my peri was so extreme. I really dunno. I went thru my 30's and 40's w/o any PMS symptoms. the only thing I had was insomina and at that time I didn't even think it could be peri related. It seems that when I get something, it is always really bad. For instance, the hives I got as a result of the job thing - it was really bad. My dr. even freaked out when he saw me - that why he had no problem taking me off the job for as long as I wanted. I first got bad dry eyes suddenly--my eyes were so red, and at the same time the extreme fatigue, dizziness. I tested positive for Sjorden Syndrome and had to see a rheumy dr. who said I didn't have it. Then I started getting other symptoms to the point where I couldn't work or drive. Once I drove and went thru a red light, also had to jam on the brakes once b/c I almost forgot to stop - that's when I knew I shouldn't be driving b/c my focus wasn't there. Remember, it's hard when someone like me who was always healthy to suddenly have to go to all these drs and then you start freaking out thinking you have every disease out there. You are lucky that you went on something before things got worse. I didn't know about this board until after I was feeling almost normal!

No, I don't live in downtown SF - that's where I used to work! I live near Twin Peaks in a neighborhood called Eureka Valley, which is all bedrock so we weren't affected by the earthquake in 1989. I love my neighborhood, everyone is friendly, we all know and watch over each other, there's social stuff, etc. I live on top of one hill and the bottom of another. Lots of different types of homes-from victorians to cottages to monster homes, trees, flowers, some cobblestone roads. Doesn't look like SF. We have skunks, couple of hawks, raccoons, possums, garden snakes - probably nothing in comparison to where some of you live but for a city, it is unusual. Everyone have either dogs or cats. I go downtown only to see my dentist and eye dr. and now I'm thinking of changing b/c I hate driving down there. Too many cars!

RMC and Amy - how goes it? I think this post is getting long so I'll come back and make some responses to your post. I gotta go right now anyway - I'm taking care of the neighbor's cat so I gotta go feed Miss Kitty.

Be good, everyone!
molly

Hey Girls!
Well, not having a good Saturday for sure! I just got back from the doctor's office, I have an absess tooth (never had one in my life) and my face is swollen and down at the jaw line it is swollen and throbbing. I had a throbbing headache too which they said the absess can cause. The doctor gave me an antibiotic to take and I got them to give me a Toradol pain shot and I already feel better. You guys, I hate to whine, but I am really scared. Are they going to have to pull my tooth? They would have to put me to sleep to do that, because the thoughts of that freaks me out! :eek: I have a crown on this tooth, and I don't know what they will do.

Hellas - you just amaze me with your talents! That you can build things is just awesome. I wish I could do that. I'm like Amy - I wish I lived next door to you, only I would pay you to build things for me - not teach me, lol. Oh, I think maybe the Dove shampoo may not work for you because you are using conditioner. I simply cannot use conditioner or it flattens my hair out and makes it lifeless. I use the volumizing shampoo only, and it has light conditioners in it already.

I guess I'm more into the new country/pop music. I love Contemporary Christian music. I listen to both. There are so many good artists out there, and I love Mark Shultz and would love to see him in concert. He has the sweetest voice. Anyone else listen to CC music? Sometimes I just get such a blessing by simpy listening to a song. We sing alot of Contemorary songs at my church and I really like that rather than singing just the old hymns all the time.

RMC - I do use the Dove moouse that volumizes and lifts. I think the best thing over all I have found is this new lift and hold spray with the nozzel. It is GREAT!! I did not watch our movie yet because I decided to clean carpets while hubby was playing computer games. I feel so good seeing nice clean carpets. Now that is done, and it looks so good. I had wondered about Beyond the Sea myself, being a big Sandra Dee fan. I wish a Gidget movie would come on now, you guys made me want to see them again.

I guess I had been suffering from mostly the anxiety for several years now. I noticed it mostly at work. I would be swamped with things and I honestly felt like I just couldn't handle things, I would come unglued. If I did anything wrong, I beat myself up about it so bad, I'd nearly make myself sick. The depression really started cropping up two years ago. I think I had a really bad bout of it in September and I went to the Health Food Store and started taking an herbal that had St. John's Wort in it and other things, I think it was called "Mind Factors" and it helped tremendously. That kept me in pretty good shape until around February of this year when I had another really bad bout with it. I tried something else herbal this time that was for menopause but my face broke out so bad, I thought maybe that had something to do with it and quit taking it. Then in March I just gave up and went to my GYN and he gave me the Lexapro. At that time I was having bad night sweats and hot flashes too. I honestly don't feel menopausal at all right now, except the absence of my period.

You are right about my hubby and his bbq - it is great! He has won several contests and we have trophys all over the place. Also, you asked about his disc disease. He has degeneration at every level of his spine, so there is nothing that can be done about it. He goes to a pain clinic and wears Duragesic Pain patches now. They help to deal with the constant pain.

Molly, your neighborhood sounds great. We don't socialize with any of our neighbors because we've had bad experiences with neighbors in the past. We have a very nice elderly lady that lives next door and a single lady about my age across the street, but we don't most of our neighbors and don't care to. When we first moved into our house in 1987, we had a great neighborhood, we used to sit out in the yard and talk to the neighbors, have big neighborhood bbq's at our house on holidays, etc. I miss that. None of those people live here now, so it's kind of like - "there goes the neighborhood" lol.

You made me so hungry talking about the food. My mouth started watering! You are right about them bringing in new blood to be the hatchet man. That has happened to our company before, but it never affected me, or my boss. I've been lucky. Your situation sounds like what happened to my friend that doesn't work with us anymore. She was working at another company, making great money (she is a computer programmer) and a new boss started harassing her and she lost it. She started having the panic attacks, etc, and had to start seeing a psych. She went to short term and then long term disability at work, and then finally filed for SSI disability and got it right off. Guess all her mental issues helped, because my hubby got turned down twice and it took him three years to get it.

Amy, hope you continue to feel better and can enjoy the weekend.

Everybody - I forgot to mention the thing about his son. His exwife was having an affair behind his back, so it would not surprise us in the least if Jonathan was her present husband's son. I suspected it because he looks alot like her husband, but I never said anything to my husband. I just wish Jonathan would consent to a blood test so we could know the truth. It is sad, and cruel at the same time.

Well, I hope I haven't forgetten to address anything. If I have- throw it back at me, ok? You ladies have a good day!

Jackie

PS: My husband's friend's wife just called and asked me if she could borrow $20 to put gas in her truck. I told her I was sorry, but I couldn't do that, that we were tapped out and in trouble ourselves now. You guys would have been proud of me!!

Hey Jackie, Just logged back on to continue my post from earlier and sure enough, your post showed up! Great to see you around! Hey, I would love for you to come over and clean my carpets! I'll pay you! I hate cleaning them b/c it's a pain in the back! LOL! My house is 3 stories and there are stairs and I can't handle lugging the carpet cleaner much less the vacuum these days! I should really just hire someone to come in and do a good cleaning. It is filthy with all the dogs that come over not to mention my BF have this habit of not taking off his shoes after he has been around dirt/grease/grime! I am seriously thinking of changing the floors but then I don't want to deal with having to spend more money and having contractors here moving furniture around, disrupting my chance to sit at the computer to post! Anyway, as with your tooth, you have an infection and once the antibiotics kick in, you will be fine. They might have to remove it, depends on what they see on the x-ray. I used to be scared of the dentist but once I started going, it is a breeze for me now. I would actually fall asleep at the chair when I'm getting a root canal. That's another thing, peri causes you to have all this teeth problems even if you floss and do the best you can w/your teeth. It is rather frustrating! If they have to remove it, you can ask to be knocked out or given that laughing gas. All this stuff is really expensive too - one tooth can costs as high as $600-$900 if you don't have insurance. Anyway, be brave and get it over with - it isn't as bad as getting a pap IMO! Also, I think it's horrible that your hubby's possible son just suddenly had nothing to do with you guys. Doesn't he realize that anyone can father a child but if you guys have been there for him since he was little, doesn't that mean anything? By the way, I love BBQ! Shortribs - meat fallin' off the bones!! Yummy!

Hey RMC, I never had any burning desire to have a child either. There was a time when I thought when I reach 24 yo, it would be a good age, but then time came and went by. Back then, women just thought it was the thing we're all suppose to do. I remember someone saying it was rather selfish to not have kids! I've always been more into dogs and treated them like my kids. I never married even; in fact, many of my high school classmates are unmarried and now that I think about it almost everyone at jury duty was single too! Sometimes I wonder if I'll regret not having kids - well, too late to now....think I was always scared of childbirth more than anything too. Gawd, it just seemed so painful - woman screaming, all sweaty, ready to kill someone! LOL!

Little Amy, thanks for the recipe! Unfortunately, I don't bake but my sister does! And, of course, I love to eat! Hey, I didn't realize acupuncture can help with heart palps and anxiety. I should've tried that first instead of going to all these drs. who just stressed me out. Did you go there to be treat just for peri symptoms?

Wow, you are a graphic designer! I didn't go to school for graphic design but I do some design work (marketing stuff) in my job. Design/drawing comes kind of natural w/ me - runs in the family. I'm just starting to learn about scrapbooking. Do anything about that? My close friend had her first little baby and I want to make something for her for Christmas so since I got a new digital camera for my birthday, I started taking pictures. I know there are lots of different layouts and am thinking of getting a book or mag to learn about it first.

Oh, ladies, got a question - what do you guys feed your dog? My Kiwi can get rather fussy. Most little dogs are very finicky. I have been feeling her Merrick food both canned and dry. The canned stuff you actually see hunks of meat. Of course, after I buy a case of this stuff, she turns her nose up and doesn't eat. So, I mix it with Natural Recipe which also have hunks of meat - she eats that - I go buy a few more - then she doesn't want it! Right now, I'm telling her that if she doesn't want to eat, fine. She will eat when she's hungry enough and know that she can manipulate me! Anyway, just curious if you guys have any problems with this!

Have a good weekend, ladies,
molly

Molly:
I did do acupuncture specifically for the perimenopause stuff. I had just had it with traditional medicine, because all doctors do is throw pills at you and then get mad if you don't respond to their treatment. (My brother is a cardiologist-ha-ha! He actually encouraged me to do the acupuncture though!) But I had read how so many people were responding so well with chronic pain to acupuncture (Jackie you may want to suggest this to your husband for his back pain), that I figured I would go check it out for my problems. I was at my wits end- and the lady I see is also a Chiropractor, and she said no problem, let's do it. My neighbor who is also entering all the peri. stuff is trying it too, and is positively thrilled with how well it's helping here with her tension, anxiety and PMS stuff. Also, I haven't really gotten into scrapbooking at all. I did do a small one for my son to record our Robotics Team stuff, but just haven't had the time or energy to get real creative with it. When you are having to be creative at work, you really get weary of having to do it at home. One thing you could do for your friends baby is take lots of pictures of her and then create a storybook about her using all the pictures you took. I did something similar for someone at work. The husband brought in three photo albums and wanted me to come up with some kind of book that he could give her for Mother's Day. So, I went through and picked out all kinds of pictures of her and the kids and made up a real cute rhyming story, to go with the pictures, and we printed it in color and bound it for her. It was really neat, and really expensive for them, but they have tons of money...

Jackie:
I love Cont. Christian music too, but I get so emotional when I listen to it that I've had to quit listening to almost every kind of music for the past couple of years. I guess after being 0sick enough, long enough, you get so depressed that everything makes you cry. The only music I listen to (yes I'm a little nutty) is "Songs in the Key of Springfield", which is a soundtrack from "The Simpsons" TV show and I LOVE Dean Martin. I guess because they are both VERY lighthearted is why I can tolerate them. I will be praying for you and that tooth. My husband just got through with a round of antibiotics because he had in infection because one of his teeth broke off at the root and he is going to have it pulled next Friday and will have a bridge put in. I'm so sorry you are having to deal with this!!!!! But it will pass....and you will get through it. Hopefully the antibiotics will take care of it, and you won't have any more trouble with it.

OK...all that BBQ talk has just made me ferociously hungry!!!!!!!! So I'd better go eat something!!!

More later,
Amy

Hey Molly and Amy,

Feeling ok for right now, I don't know how long the Toradol pain shot lasts - I hope at least all day. Thanks both of you for the encouragement, and Amy, for the prayers, because I really need it. I started crying while ago, I was so scared about what is going to happen. I haven't felt like crying since I got on Lexapro! What a ninney I am :rolleyes: I'm afraid of it hurting when they do something to me.

Molly, you may be right that things start happening to your teeth when you get menopausal. All of a sudden my mom started having absessed teeth and having to have them pulled, got gum disease - etc. I sure hope that doesn't happen to me! I take lots of calcium, so maybe it won't.

You are the only person I have ever heard that feels the same way about having a baby. I could never get past the pain part either, that scared me to death and I never wanted to go thru that. Plus, I know I have to be weird, but I didn't want to do that to my body either (being pregnant). The whole experience seemed very unpleasant to me.

Amy, I'm sorry you can't listen to CC music any more. It's so uplifting to me, and sometimes it made me cry, but it was because I was so overwhemled with God's love that touched me thru the song, I wasn't sad - just touched.

Oh Molly - I almost forgot - we feed Ginger Hill's Science Diet CD Formula. It's a dry food, and a formula for dogs with bladder problems. It helps her not to develop crystals in her urine and to prevent her from having stones again. She loves it, and eats a bowl every day. It's kind of expensive, but a big bag lasts for months.

Also, your house sounds great! Three stories - wow, I am impressed. But, I hate to do any type of housework, so that would be too much for me!

Take care ladies, will check back in on you later :wave:

[B]Little Amy, thanks for the recipe! Unfortunately, I don't bake but my sister does! And, of course, I love to eat! Hey, I didn't realize acupuncture can help with heart palps and anxiety. I should've tried that first instead of going to all these drs. who just stressed me out. Did you go there to be treat just for peri symptoms?


Oh, ladies, got a question - what do you guys feed your dog? My Kiwi can get rather fussy. Most little dogs are very finicky. Have a good weekend, ladies,
molly


Hi Molly; All three of my dogs eat dry kibble. It is Nutro Natural for seniors. The schnauzers are 12 & 11 and Reba is only 3 but being a greyhound (and a lazy one to boot) they cannot afford to gain weight!
The one thing I do though, is soak their kibble in hot water...just enough to loosen the outside but keeps the inside still crunchy (my dogs do NOT chew their food anyhow, just gulp) and I leave the water with it.
I had some bouts with both the dogs and the kitties of turning their noses up at their food and discovered that was because the food seemed to be "off". Not necessarily bad but just "off". Try smelling the stuff you have to see if it smells like it should. Animals are much more sensitive to this sort of thing. It could also be something as simple as the weather too. A lot of animals don't desire so much food when they are hot/uncomfortable/feeling under the weather etc. Do you give your doggie(s) treats between meals? If so, this could be a cause of the finickiness. My gang only gets cheerior or raw veggies and nothing from the table! And everything is measured out, including the treats, and given at mostly the same times every day...animals (especially dogs, are such creatures of habit and love routines! Just some thoughts.

And now I'd like to address the idea of children. I too have never had any. My furbabies are my children. I like children but only when they belong to someone else. I think it is selfish to have children if you don;t feel capable or if you really don;t have the desire. I think I am the only person I know who can make a baby cry by looking at it! Besides I have had many people pass their babies over to me (they seem to think I want to hold it) and I really don;t know how to hold a baby or how to entertain them. Kinda sad I guess...I just don't have that maternal instinct in me.

Well ta for now; feeling pretty good the last few days and spent lots of time with hubby driving around the countryside, having lunch or shopping at crafts stores and such. Oh, BTW, I also have some hobbies. I target shoot/make jewellry/sew/hook rugs/scrapbook.

Jenney

Hello Friends,
Hey Molly, where'd you get the lobster rolls? Kelly's Roast Beef...right there on Revere Beach? That's my guess. I'm the next town over. Jackie, that's the place I was telling you earlier on was having the Blessing of the Bikes in July. Coming together, gonna have BBQ (probably not as good as your DH), and proceeds from the day are going to help the War Vets from Afghanistan & Iraq.
I've got to go back & take notes or something, cause I get confused as to who wrote what. But I taught myself the woodworking, just by wathcing TV show like PBS New Yankee Workshop and some other woodworking shows. I hate formal training...I figure just try it....how hard can it be? It's all about experimentation. Sometimes it works & sometimes it doesn't. But with each thing you make you learn more. My BF is an architect/contractor & he gives me little tips, but knows to stay out of my way & let me do it myself. He says I'm better at it than most of the men he knows. High compliment from him!
You know reading thru all your post about children. I was wondering....does not having children make the peri/meno symptoms more intense? I never had any either.
Seems like most, if not all, of us didn't have children. And we've all really struggled with the awful symptoms. Do you think that has something to do with it???

Ok, now that I've got notes...
Amy: I wanted to be a graphic designer when I was in HS, but everyone talked me out of the art route, because of the " how you going to make a living doing that?" comments. Stupid me, I listened to them. Sorry you get depressed listening to christian music. I listen to it always, when I'm at my lowest and I, too, find it uplifting, like Jackie said. It calms my nerves and helps me sleep. ANd even when I cry, while listening I know it's a good crying.
Molly: The only diagnosis I have on my back is slight scoliosis. So I've had physical therapy and do a lot of strecthing & low back exersizes, which help. Always there, but better when I exersize. I had BAD popping in my spine recently, but have worked it out doing stretches, and it doesn't pop half as bad now. Computers are killers for the back, and with the scoliosis I tend to slouch. Neither a good combo.
Are you saying there are no Dunkin Donuts in SF??? I actually prefer Starbucks..my weekend treat. I have no advise on the dog food. When I had the black lab with my ex, the ony issue he had with eating was, whatever he could get in his mouth he'd eat.
He loved it when we put a jar of gravy on his food though! Unfortunately, he was on a diet by the time he was 9 mos old. Every kid on the block would come & feed him, the neighbor would give him "cookies" He'd eat anything.
Jackie: Sorry your tooth acted up today. I've never had an abcess, but lots of people do in our age group. I think meno/peri messes up everthing. I just had the deep scaling done for gingivitis last month. No fun. I hate the dentist as much, if not more, than most people. It costs a fortune, and all they do is torture you in some way or another.
Hi Jenney, I sew & make jewelry too! Mostly the sewing is for the house...curtains, reupholstering my sofa, pillows etc. I have jewelry to match just about everything in my closet. I love making earrings especailly, and then a bracelet to match.
Sounds like you've had some nice days off doing fun things. Wish I had more time for that. Weekends go by so fast, and so many errands to run. Haven't got the energy after work to do stuff, so leave it for Sat/Sun. Did have some fun today though. Sent our boss into retirement at the local Horse Track. Bet one race and won!!!! A whole 6.40!!! But I won. I told everyone I was only going to bet on the one race named for my boss. I picked the horse by name. AngelByDay. Told everyone I was betting that horse cause that's what I am...an angel by day. Wonder why they were all laughing?????
Have a great Night
Hellas

Hellas, it looks like the only person on our thread here that has children is Amy, but she is having trouble too, so I don't think that is the cause of it. I know other ladies at work that are going thru it too and they have children. I think it's just hard on all us women - period! I know someone said this before - but I'll say it again, how come no one told us how bad it was going to be? Did women of our mother's generation just suffer in silence?? I do think our generation is more outspoken and in our mother's day, things just weren't talked about too much.

I know I said this before - but I'll say it again for the newbies here - I know a woman at work that was put on Prozac when she was starting to go thru peri/meno and I thought to myself (why would anyone have to take an antidepressant just because they were going thru menopause)?? I was clueless, but I told that same woman that now I knew what she was going thru! The woman that sits next to me at work has been going thru it for several years and she takes HRT. She was always telling me, get on hormones and you'll feel better. I told her NO, I didn't want to get on HRT and I wasn't going to. I still feel that way, I feel that they are unsafe. The only hormone that I take is the Premarin Vaginal Cream, which works wonders for dryness, btw. I started getting the dryness last year, and sex became very painful, but that really helps, in case that should happen to any of you.

Well, looks like I'm on my soapbox, doesn't it? Check in with you gals again in a bit.

Jenney - good to hear from you, and glad you are having a good time with your hubby.

OH - Hellas - what does DH stand for? Is it Dear Husband? I've seen that in other threads but wasn't sure what it meant.

Hellas, you were posting same time I was, so I finished my post to read yours. Girl - you crack me up! Winning $6.40 and telling them you were an Angel by Day and they were laughing. Could it be because you've been a ranting and raving at work, like you told us in your very first post, lol? :D

I would love to know how to make jewelry! I love all the necklaces that's on stuff like fishing line and has several strands and all kind of beads on them. Love the colorful stretchy bracelets too. I have lots of both. I guess I just don't have much patience (ok, I know I don't) to do things like that.

Anyway - just had to comment on your post :)

Jackie, Dh, yes is Dear Husband...at least that's what I assumed to. But let me ask this: what the heck is LOL??? I see it all the time, and just am not sure on that one.
Lots of Luck?
Hey I had to get the vaginal cream too. What a relief! Felt like I was sitting on shard of glass at the time. Sex hurt terribly, and kept getting those nasty yeast infections.
Sheesh, what we all go thru!!! I had been contemplating starting a thread about that one, since I haven't seen one about it yet. Must be lots of us out there with that problem.
I know my mom never told me, cause she didn't have the chance to. She passed away when I was 22, so pretty much been on my own. No motherly advise to get me thru all those rough spots. All just trial & error. I don't think that generation talked about such things though. Just wasn't something people should discuss. Maybe they just accepted it better than we do. Maybe because we all work, it adds to the problem. Doubled stress. Most of the mothers in that generation didn't work outside of the house. Being wives & mothers was there job.
Hellas

Hellas, LOL means laughing out loud. Now I don't feel so bad about having to ask what the terms are :) You know, I kept getting the yeast infections too, but I don't think I've had once since I started on the Premarin. I read somewhere that the dryness can actually cause vaginal infections, but not sure why. But, I take acidolophus and garlic every day too to keep them at bay. I'm worried now that I'm taking Keflex for my tooth that I will get one. The doctor gave me a prescription for Diflucan just in case - but that never seems to get rid of mine. Once I get one, Terazol is about the only thing that knocks it out. Men just don't know how lucky they are!!!

My mom said that she never really had hot flashes and night sweats, but I think she must have had anxiety, because I can remember her getting really nervous alot. I don't think she had real anxiety attacks, but just general anxiety and nervousness. She had kind of a nervous breakdown of sorts about 12 years ago, when she was keeping my nephew when he was a baby, and she kept thinking things were wrong with her and one doctor told her she needed to see a psych. Turns out thats what she did need, and they gave her Zoloft and Xanax. But, I would have thought she'd been way past menopause by then. Maybe she had her symptoms later, I just don't know. She's ok now tho. She's always been a worrier, which is why I have never told her about the motorcycle. She's be worrying all the time about us getting killed. Best she doesn't know! Mom did work, and I rememeber her really getting stressed alot and being upset with the way so-and-so would be treating her. I guess maybe she was going through peri at that time, makes sense to me now.

I would love to know how to make jewelry!


Oh it's not that hard really. It all started with me about 5 yrs ago when I bought a wonderful necklace off EBay and said to myself, self, I can do this. Between library books/taking stuff apart/the internet (a wonderful resource) I now make and sell necklaces and bracelets and also do loom weaving and peyote amulet bags with those little bitty seed beads. `I find that and my primitive style rug hooking (I design my own patterns) to be very relaxing and keeps my mind off those things that "bug" me. But, having said that, on my bad days I can get pretty angry with something I am working on pretty quick :eek:
Oh and I do needlework tapestries too.
Well off to bed...back to work tomorrow.

Ta, Jenney

Jenney, sounds like you are very creative also. You and Hellas both seem to have that flair. I just don't have the "want to" to do things like that. About as creative as I get is glueing sparkley beads on the flip flops I bought at the craft store. I turned plain into really cute- does that count? lol

You have to work on Sunday? What type of job do you have? If you have said that already, forgive this forgetful mind!

Jackie

Jenney, sounds like you are very creative also. You and Hellas both seem to have that flair. I just don't have the "want to" to do things like that. About as creative as I get is glueing sparkley beads on the flip flops I bought at the craft store. I turned plain into really cute- does that count? lol

You have to work on Sunday? What type of job do you have? If you have said that already, forgive this forgetful mind!

Jackie



Thankyou Jackie. I guess I am, to a point. BUT I can't draw or paint like an artist, which is something I really would like to be able to do. Do stick people count as art? ;)

Yes...adding beads to sandals counts big time...THAT's artistic you know!!!

I am a security officer, stationed at our local provincial school for blind students which is a residential school for grades 1-13. I work 4 to 12 Sunday to Thursday so always get Friday/Saturday off (expect for this past Thursday which was an extra "just because" day off. But, starting July, the students go home for the summer this Friday, I will only be working Mon - Thurs for July and August until the kids return in Sept after labour day. I have been in this line of work for almost 18 yrs and have been stationed everywhere from muddy old construction sites to country clubs/malls/factories/strike duty/animal rendering plants and special events like championship golf games. Interesting work...a lot better than being a waitress. Not to say there is anything wrong with being a waitress...that's what I did before this, but what with my state of mind now, you know what I mean?, I wouldn't have 2 minutes of patience to wait on ignorant customers!

Do all you ladies work outside the home here?

Ta, Jenney

Jenney, all of us work outside the home except Molly (I think). I am not sure about RMC. I have a bad habit that even when I take a day off or am on vacation, I still check my emails and carry on business. I work for an Elevator Company and I run the Company Store. The store has promotional products for our offices to purchase for tradeshows, golf outings, office parties, retirement gifts, personal use, etc. I have free reign in my job and although it is fun, it can be taxing at times, because I run a one woman show! I do get to be creative in some of the products I choose for the store. We have clothing, recreational items, business items, about 20 different caps, and I could go on and on. The store is online on our inter-company website and they can shop online and the completed order comes to me in the form of an email. I fax it over to our warehouse and they ship it for me. We ship to our offices all over the US and I have to ship the Canadian orders.

You are right, Waitressing at this time in your life wouldn't be such a good idea! :D

Well, it's almost 1:00 am here, and my mouth is starting to throb again, (guess the pain shot has worn off), so I guess I will go to bed myself.

As you say (ta)!

Jackie

Jackie, Jenney, ANYTHING creative is art! Stick people, embellishing sandals, all that & more is artistic.
Jackie, that sounds like an interesting job. Now I know why you do all the travelling. Was wondering why you got to all those places you mentioned.
You job sounds interesting too, Jenney. So varied. That must be nice, getting to be in all those different sites. Guess it keeps it interesting.
And yeah, having to deal with customers all day, when you want to run out the door screaming from an anxiety attack stinks! Luckily I have some really nice customers, who I've dealt with for years, so it's almost like talking to friends. Some really good customers, and others are just pains! The worst part is having to deal with the airline people, customs, and the trucking companies. Do not care if I get pushy with the airlines & truckers, but Customs guys you HAVE to be nice to! Lot more pressure in my business since 9/11. Lot more rules & security measures...all creating more aggravation.
Well, got to go catch up on laundry & grocery shopping today, since I played all day yesterday.
Have a nice SUnday All.
Hellas

Well, got up really early this morning (4:30 AM) because that little brat of a dog of mine woke me up (jumped on me and started licking me!) and I couldn't go back to sleep! Geez, this dog of mine is out all day with me, goes on 3-4 walks a day, plays fetch, wrestles w/her stuffed animals, is 11-yo and still get up early! Anyway, decided to get up and hopefully tonight we'll both pass out without any problems. Thanks to everyone who gave me dogfood recommendations too!

Hi Amy - I agree that drs. do nothing but throw pills at us left and right. I've read somewhere that they get a cut on the prescriptions they hand out! All my prescription drugs doubled in cost this year too! What a ripoff! Glad the acupuncture helped you. Many drs. who practice traditional med don't believe in eastern med so your brother is pretty cool to encourage it. It's also hard to talk to drs. about what they think of herbal stuff - many don't believe in it. I think some insurance co. are starting to cover it also. I would like to try an acupuncturist but I have to find one that speaks English.

Hey Jenney, The food that I have been feeding my dog looks pretty good actually. Made with really good stuff - hunks of beef/chicken or lamb, carrots, apples, flaxseed, oatmeal, rice, etc. I do think she finicky b/c she knows there are treats for her and I do give her in between meals sometimes - not always tho. I do also notice that she will always eat her dinner -it's the morning meal that she doesn't. Guess she is starved by the time dinner comes around or maybe she just doesn't need to eat twice a day. Anyway, thanks for your recommendations. I do smell the food to make sure it isn't spoiled or anything. I feed her 1/4 cu 2X a day so the canned stuff do have to be checked, doesn't get people food, doesn't like raw veggies--only cooked. My dog doesn't gulp her food like yours. She is dainty with it. You takes a nibble here and there and always have to carry her food from the kitchen onto the carpet to eat! I need to be better about measuring the food and the treats. I did it for a while, esp. with the treats and did notice she lost weight when I did that. It is kinda hard to measure something that looks so small, if you know what I mean!

I laughed when you wrote that people think you want to hold their babies! I'm the same way. I feel so clumsy with them and I don't know what to do with them. I don't have much of a maternal instinct either, but many people say that if I had a kid, I would probably be good with her/him since I'm so good with pets. I dunno. Even little toddlers, I have a hard time playing and entertaining them.

You do have a lot of hobbies! I am a lost cause when it comes to sewing and stuff like that, esp. now when I can barely see when I thread a needle! I could probably handle jewelry making but then again I'm so klutzy with my hands and the beads and stuff probably roll all over the floor. You said you did scrapbooks - I just got myself some mags and books yesterday to get some ideas. Looks like I have to get a lot of supplies! I'm not sure if I'm even going to make an actual scapebook - maybe something like a scrapbook page and just frame it...I dunno yet. What kind of target shooting do you do? Guns or archery? I did both a few times - didn't stick to it tho.


Hey Jackie, how is your tooth today? I just re-read your post about your tooth and you said you had a crown on that tooth. They will probably replace that crown. When they take the crown off, they will probably clean that area real good to make sure you don't have anymore infection. You will be fine. You had it done before so it won't be as bad as you think.

In one of your posts, you mentioned about vaginal dryess. My gyn also gave me a estrogen cream but once my GP found out about it, he told me not to use it b/c it gets into your system the same as taking HRT. He said there are OTC stuff to use. Anyway, it is very common - many women just don't talk about it. Just like in the old days when women were going thru meno, they just didn't talk about it. They just put up with it and I've heard that they were so busy raising kids that they couldn't worry about it and some were put in mental institutions! And, the only reason why we know so many women are gong thru it now, is b/c we have the internet. Oh, I was also told that we have too much time in our hands these days (i.e., no kids?).

Hi Hellas, We did eat the lobster rolls at Kelly's now that you mentioned it. I guess you no longer live in Medford? No, we don't have Dunkin' Donuts here...not being a big donut eater, I don't really know what we have here - I know we recently had Kristy Creams show up around the area. We do have a lot of Starbucks for sure - too many actually! Oh, congratulations on your $6.40 winning too. I haven't gone to the races for years. We know you're an Angel by Day, but what are you at Night? Hmmm...

It must be great to have a BF who is an architect/contractor - is he handy too? All my friends and I say that if anyone gets a hubby or BF, he better be handy! You are lucky - you're not only tall but you know how to build things too! Makes you very self-sufficient probably! Being short I need help to change the light bulbs!

Where the heck is RMC? Haven't seen her posting this weekend.

Well, girls, ta-ta for now...have a good Sunday! Behave yourselves,
molly :wave:

Hey Jenney[/B], What kind of target shooting do you do? Guns or archery? I did both a few times - didn't stick to it tho.

Well, girls, ta-ta for now...have a good Sunday! Behave yourselves,
molly :wave:

Hi Molly...Guns...rifle actually. I enjoy it but I can say for sure that in a hunting situation, those animals are totally safe...if you know what I mean? ;) . I do load my own ammo though, so I guess that's another hobby.

Boy it's another hot day here in southern Ontario. mid 30's (90's) which may not seem bad to some but we are not used to that kind of weather here...we get snow for 5 months you know ;-) Weatherman says hot until Thursday when we get rain again. I know the weather is affecting Reba my greyhound. She insisted on going for a long walk along the dyke yesterday and this a.m. she was all warm and vomitted/had the runs and didn't want to eat. She is not really acting sick but is quite content to sleep on the bed alone, by herself...maybe she is PMSing or peri too! Ha ha! I'll try her with some plain steamed rice or boiled potato for supper...something light on her tummy. I know yesterday she ran around too much in the heat (I couldn't stop her) and then drank a bunch of water from her kiddie pool. Thank goodness we have central A/C. The boys are a lot smarter...they just go outside long enough to do their "thing" and then right back in the house to lay on the cold ceramic floors.


Ta for now,
Jenney

HI Molly and Hellas :wave:

Good to wake up and see your posts. My tooth is still hurting today, but not quite as bad, but my head is throbbing. I just took some Advil, so I hope it kicks in soon! Molly, I've never had a root canal on this tooth, just a deep cavity and part of the wall of my tooth feel off a long time ago, so they had to put a crown on it. Actually, this is the second crown I've had on this one. It hurts deep in the root area, so the absess is there. I sure hope I don't lose it, I don't want a hole there.

I laughed so hard you talking about Kiwi jumping on you and waking you up. That's exactly what Ginger does to my hubby. When he falls asleep on the couch, she gets her back feet on his chest and stretches accross his face with her front feet on the couch arm. Funniest thing you've ever seen. I don't know what she thinks she is doing?? lol

Hellas, yes my job is very interesting and most of the time fun, in that I can be creative in the clothing we carry and promotional items too. I help people with their special orders all the time. I just ordered special shirts for the Woburn, MA office for something they had last week. I traveled alot about two years ago, but none last year, and only once this year. We had alot of Repair Sales tradeshows for our salespeople in a lot of places that year, and two girls from the Marketing Dept went to represent the marketing dept, and I took shirts to sell and represented the store. I work very closely with the Marketing Dept, and have been part of them of and on several times, just depending on who was the boss at the time. Now they have a different boss and I still have my original one (thank God!). I started out as his executive assistant, and he gave the store over to me, and I was scared to death at first, but now he just leaves it all to me - free reign. It's cool. What type of business are you in? What about you Molly?

I'm with you Molly and Jenney about babies, I don't know what to do with them either. My hubby's niece just had her third, and two weeks old. We saw it the first time this week, and they asked me "do you want to hold her?" I said - maybe later.... I feel clumsy with them too. No real maternal instincts here either. Don't you gals find it really something that we have so much in common here? It is amazing!

Well, I see I just got another post, hope it's from RMC, since we haven't heard from her in a bit - but like Arnold Swarzenegger says "I'll Be Back!" :D

Jackie

PS - Jenney just saw your post, hope Reba feels better. Hate to see your babies feeling bad, don't you? I know I do. Hope you have a good day. It's in the 90's here too.

Here I am: Hello to Everyone!!

i just submitted this and it came back with a statement that it was too long!! So I will send it in two installments!! LOL!! Here is part of it and then on to the next!!



After posting yesterday a.m. we were out most of the day. We were celebrating a friends birthday...went to a movie of her choice (mr. and mrs. smith) and then dinner and then back here for presents and also played cards...canasta. they have two schnauzers and so our dog had a good time with the two of them also. The movie would not have been my choice but I love Brad Pitt so enjoyed that!! But since I am a big Jennifer Anniston fan I am not at all a fan of Angelina Jolie!! LOL!! I never have been though.

Since I last was in here posting yesterday earlier in the day you all have been busy!! LOL!! Great to see them!! I just copy and pasted all of them in order on to another screen so will see if I can answer them that way in order of how I found them!! So here goes.....

Hellas : I am so impressed you can actually MAKE things..like BUILD things and also make jewelery AND sew!! I am not creative in that way at all..can't even sew more than a button and actually had to transfer out of sewing class in highschool since I hated it and tried the nun's patience!! I transferred to a Russian History class and was more content there than trying to thread bobbins or hem a skirt. I envy those that can though. But to actually be able to make things out of wood has to be amazing and satisfying!! A friend is very into jewelry making and we all got together, she and another girlfriend to make ankle bracelets at some point last summer. Loved picking the beads, loved designing it but when it came to putting it together...I was all thumbs!! LOL!!

as far as arts go..I am more inclined that way in writing...wrote poems from an early age and short stories from High School on. Also have written some essay type writings that were publlished in the paper when we were in MN. I have always written in some way and enjoy it and wish I could make a living in that way. I most recently a couple years ago had a writing group I was involved in thru a University here and we met once a month and critiqued our short stories. I agree with you...that anything artistic I think is a big stress reliever.

That is great that you won at the horse races!! I haven't been to one in years but loved to see the horses run when I have gone.

You said your Mom died when you were 22. I was that same age when my Mom died too.

MMM….Lobster Rolls!! We had those in Chatham when we were on the Cape. They were delicious!!

You mentioned the airlines in talking about your job. What do you do, do you work for the airlines? I may have missed your post about it.

Amy : that is really interesting that acupuncture helps the anxiety!! I have heard that it helps people with a variety of symptoms and that sounds promising. At the chiropractor I go to they have acupuncture also.

You said you love Dean Martin. So do I and my husband does also!! I love the Rat Pack in general and have always loved Frank Sinatra music too. But Dean is one of our favorites and we have a couple of his cds.


]Molly [/COLOR] : When you were talking about the Italian sub sandwiches it made my mouth water!!

Wow..you went thru a lot at work and that is terrible it affected your health. It was a healthier situation for sure to get out of that place!!

Where is the Twin Peaks area in relation to downtown? It sounds lovely!! I love all the different type of houses in the San Francisco area…the Victorians especially. I went on a tour of Victorians one time when we were there. They are so narrow, some of them!!

That was so cute about your dog this a.m.!! Ours does the same thing in the mornings!! They are darlings aren't they?

A 3 level house sounds great but I am with you about the vacumning…that would bother me!! It is my least favorite household task!!

You mentioned never having a burning desire either to have kids and that you have always been more into dogs. ME TOO!!

I took a scrapbooking class and loved it and have done a couple for vacations. I also did one for my 50th birthday last year. It was fun to do.

As far as what we feed our cocker..he has been on the Hills diet also. But he has also had a dry kibble type of food too. He has never been a picky eater. Our other cocker was more of a chow hound.

I will send the other post next!!
rmc

Part TWO!! LOL!!



Jackie : I felt bad for you to hear that you were dealing with an absessed tooth. I had one when I was in high school and it was painful as you said. I did not lose the tooth, the meds took care of the infection from what I recall.

I will have to look for the “lift and hold spray” you mention…does it say Hairspray on it or is it a styling kind of thing?

You have got me craving BBQ now!! In fact we are doing country style pork ribs tonight for my brother in law and his friend coming to dinner!! It is a treat as we do not have them often. It is an Emeril recipe so a different one than we usually do. I am sure not as authentic as Memphis BBQ though.

I so agree with you that we really heard nothing about all these symptoms of peri, let alone know that there was a peri leading up to menopause!! But you are right our mothers’ generation never talked about such things.

Your job sounds really interesting and also creative!!

Jenney : It was so interesting to read what you had to say about your feelings about having kids.

Your time off driving the country side with your husband, having lunch and going to crafts stores , sounds great!! We will be doing that on 4th of July Sat. just driving on the coast near here for the day exploring too.

So you make jewelery too!! As I said to Hellas, I loved designing the ankle bracelet and also a necklace I did for my 40th. I asked everyone that is important to me in my life to give me a bead for my 40th and then I made the necklace out of that and it is very special as each one represents someone. But my friend pretty much put the necklace together. I lined up all the beads in the design I wanted on her little board she has but then when it came to the knotting and the other nitty gritty of putting the clasp on etc. I did not have patience!! LOL!! I know it is silly!! It is funny as I have knitted scarves before and also done some basic embroidery but then there are some crafts I just have no knack for or patience for. I love the end product though of jewelery making as I love jewelery!!

You asked if we all worked from home. No I don’t. I work at a electronics design firm

I hope Reba is doing better. You are right the weather sure affects them. I LOL thought when you said she might be PMsing or in peri too!! I feel for her !! lol

Well I think I covered everyone's postings!! It was great fun to read them and to chat back!!

I will check back later and peek in on everyone. We are having my brother-inlaw and his friend for dinner and so need to do some prepping for dinner and will be making cornbread in a sec here. So will spend some time cooking which I enjoy.

See you all later and have a great Sunday.

Hugs to everyone,

rmc
PS sorry to everyone for the length of this...but there was a lot I wanted to answer!! and as you can see brevity is not my stong suit!! LOL!!

RMC, it was good to hear from you, and glad you had such a good time yesterday. It sure sounds like fun. You know, the more I hear from you, the more we sound alike - and Molly too, in lots of ways. Must be the Aries thing, you think?

As far as the Lift and Hold - it does say hairspray. I just love it. My hairstyle is finally "there" after letting it grow since October. Very sexy, and I love looking sexy :) My short hair was easier, but I do love the looks of my new "do".

Funny you should say that about the braces, one of my long time friends that lives In Louisiana now just got braces last year, and had to have some teeth pulled to get them. She really had a hard time with the pain afterwards.

That is funny about your sewing experience, I took Home Ec in high school and sewed fine and did some sewing in 4-H club, and liked it at the time, I actually made me some outfits (with my mom's help) but just don't have the patience for it now. My sister is creative with the arts and crafts thing, but I there again, don't have the patience. NO, I'm not a patient person at all. Oh - I meant to comment on what you said about your hubby and you dancing - about you wanting to lead - well I do too- I think that is an Aries thing too.

I used to love to cook, and love to make up recipies. I love to create something that sounds good, but I don't cook much anymore. I'm so tired when I get home from work, I just do something quick most nights. My hubby loves my pancakes and says they are better than IHop's :) I like my banana pancakes best, but he likes the blueberry. So, guess we'll have blueberry today. I'm trying to eat things that are soft. When I was growing up, I cooked all the time, trying out new recipies all the time. I know that helped my mom too, because she worked.

Well, guess I'd better go for now and whip us up something to eat. Good to hear from you!

Jackie

Hey RMC, good to hear from you! Was a little worried for a moment - thought you abandoned us! LOL! Anyway, read your long post - didn't realize it tells you when it's too long. Learn something new everyday. When I post here, I open up 2 browsers. That way I can go back and forth and read what you guys wrote on previous pages. You might want to give that a try instead of copying & pasting.

You are definitely a party animal! It seems like you have so many social stuff going on! Speaking of the movie, Mr. & Mrs. Smith - is it any good? Another thing we have in common - I'm not a fan of Angelina Jolie either - I do like Brad Pitt and Jennifer Aniston, and esp. TV show Friends. Do you think he cheated on her with Angelina? I heard that some of the magazines are cutting & pasting their pics to make it look like they are together. I dunno, their divorce just seemed to have come on so suddenly. But, in Hollywood, they get married and divorced like it's nothing. I now can't believe Tom Cruise proposed to Katie Holmes already! Can't they just date for a while? What's wrong with these people?

You asked where is Twin Peaks in relation to downtown. It is south of SF. It's these two mountain peaks that people can drive up to and see the entire city and across the bay. It's about 4 mi from downtown - to drive across the city, it is only 7 miles long anyway.

I also like Dean Martin. But I like Andy Williams probably more, remember him? You asked how often we go back East. We haven't been back for 3 years. First went there when Kiwi was 1 yr old and we would go every other year. I'm not a good traveler. It is stressful for me, can't sit on the plane very long - you could say I get anxiety! I have to upgrade my tickets to first class usually and still feel confined. Last time, we took the red eye and I fell asleep, then I woke up suddenly, jumped up panicking, and started to freak out - I wanted to get outta there! I ended up going to the bathroom and washing my face! That time, I said never again. The only thing good about flying is that my friend is a Airline Attendant and whenever we travel, he tells whoever is on our flight to take care of us - so we get a little special treatment.

Hi Jackie, you asked what of business I'm in. I'm in the business of retiring soon! LOL! I work from home for an engineering company. What's great is that I don't have to set my alarm and it's even greater when it pouring rain out and I don't have to deal with going anywhere. I think everyone should work from home!

Hey Jenney, Wow! Riflewomen! You must be a good shot! I can't shot beans! Went target shooting before and missed the target completely LOL! Guess I can't see every well! Oh, I hope Reba is doing better too!

Ta-ta ladies, :wave:
molly

Good Evening Ladies, Just read thru all the days post and I feel better already. Got a little grumpy today, due the usual weekend laundry struggle. This bldg has 7 apts and 1 washer & 1 dryer. One tennant does laundry EVERY day. How can you do laundry every day??? I do 2 loads a week. She's just very loud & irritating. And since this new BF of hers showed up with his 3 kids (on Wed & Weekends) theres no peace & quiet. They all yell, cry, whine, fight. I can't even open my door to the deck cause all I hear is little boys crying & yelling. There's toys & bikes everywhere. I am way too old for this. By BF called all cheery & I was in no mood. Can't wait till I'm a senior citizen so I can move into old age housing.
Well, as you can tell I'm not too crazy about kids either. Babies, I know nothing about. They're cute to look at, but not into holding 'em either. I'll take an animal over kids any day of the week. Take em over men too for that matter. Just can't have one where I live. Enough complaining....sorry.
Hey Molly...is that the same Twin Peaks that the TV show was named??? You asked if my BF was handy..yes, he's into all kinds of stuff too. He only does arhitecture on the side now, for friends and older clients. That's his sideline. He mostly does supervisory work on building sites...make sure everyone is doing their job right.etc. He draws, does metal sculpture, carpentry, and is building his own car in his spare time. Building it from ground up, frame & all. Going on 10 yrs so far....kind of like to see it before I die.
But he's a perfectionist, so like to take his time. Not me! I'm a perfectionist too, being an Aries and all, but like to strat & finish a project asap! Although the dollhouse a built took like forever. Plus 8 stitches in my finger slowed me down. I loved doing that. Would do that to make more $$ on the side if I thought anyone would actually pay for that. The kits are kind of pricey to begin with...who wants to pay even more for it?
Jenney....hope Reba is feeling better by now. I was like an old mother hen whenver my lab got sick. Worried about him all the time. And you've got some great hobbies.
And shooting too. My BF does that too. Not me. I haven't shot a gun since I was like 12, and my dad let me shoot with his deer hunting rifle (.22???). And with my vision, probably not a good idea to put a gun in my hand.
Jackie...how's the tooth feeling tonight? Have the antibiotics kicked in? I wouldn't worry about getting a yeast infection since you take the probiotics (I think you said that). I had to take cipro for 7 days & was afraid of getting yeast back, too. But I was fine. When do you have to go back to the dentist? Oh, ya, & Jackie..going to gyno on Tues for regular checkup. Gonna have to see about an AD or other options. This mood thing stinks.
RMC...glad to have you back, girl! Yes, those beads do end up all over the place! I'm blind as a bat, so it's tedious for sure. But in the long run, worth the effort. Don't know how many times I lost the whole string of bead I just threaded onto the floor! Maybe I should just start on the floor in the first place.That's great that you do all that writing. I always had a good imagination, but always went around in circles when trying to put anything on paper ( you can tell from this!).
My mom died when she was59. My sister died at 53. So I totally understand your thinking about that. I do too.
I know I've forgotten Amy...but I don't know how to cut & paste &do all that fancy computer stuff...only had one a 4 yrs and am self taught...
I'm gonna get cut off too if I don't cut this short...so...thanks for listening to me gripe ladies.
H.

Jackie, forgot to answer your question..I'm in international freight forwarding. I'm on the import side. We clear shipments thru Customs for companies, such as yours, who purchase their products from overseas. We clear it and then get it delivered to their door. Was fun the first few years, talking to everyone all over the world. Now it's just aggravating, mostly. But then everything aggravates me since I hit meno. Fun, fun, fun!

Hellasrules: Thanks for asking about Reba. She is back to normal (almost). This sickness happened at 5 in the morning. By 9 am she was all over it and all the bedding was cleaned and dried (including her stuffies). She begged for food from me for hours so I gave her some oatmeal with bread and soy milk at 2 pm and she slept after that. She is only going to get some cooked and plain pasta and potatoe for supper (it's already made and waiting in the fridge cuz I'm at work now) Probably oatmeal for breakfast too. I limited her walkies today (temps still in the 90's) to two or three houses down and then baCK HOME. Called hubby just now and he said she is acting normal now, just not really wanting to go outside for too long. Gee...I wonder why ;)

Ta,
Jenney

[ I limited her walkies today (temps still in the 90's) to two or three houses down and then baCK HOME. Called hubby just now and he said she is acting normal now, just not really wanting to go outside for too long. Gee...I wonder why ;)

Jenney, I feel the same way....too darn hot.
Take care and hugs to Reba. She sounds so sweet.

Geez, I hate this laptop, I had written a reply and I hit some key and wiped it all out! That aggrevates me to death.

Anyway... Hellas, thanks for asking, but I feel horrible right now. My head and jaw are just throbbing. I had been ok all day, taking Advil every four hours, but mercy - it started hurting so bad, hubby made me a another half of a pain pill. I'll probably be out of it in just a bit. Sure did make me easy and sleep good last night tho. I don't have an appt with the dentist, but I am going to go down there first thing in the morning and make them check it. Make sure I'm on the right antibiotic too. Seems like it should have started helping by now??? Wow - the only thing that has ever hurt this bad was the cramps when I would be on my period.

I am eating Yogurt, taking acidolophus and garlic, so hopefully that will keep me from getting Yeast!

Jenney - glad Reba is feeling better. My little yapper has been yapping so much and making my head hurt even worse, if that's even possible!

Take care ladies... I sure hope tomorrow is a better day for me.

Jackie

Hellas, I forgot - before I got on Lexapro, EVERYTHING got on my nerves. Even hearing my hubby breathe got on my nerves, lol. I can take things so much better now, it is amazing. I had always been rather anxious and worry about things anyway, but it got much worse in peri.

Hey ladies - I don't know if anyone will see this in time, but a show called "Get Down Tonight" about disco just came on. I don't know what channel it would be in your cities. K C and the Sunshine band just sang, and there's alot more. Ok - going back to watch it - Hope you catch it. :)

Hey ladies, before I leave work for home, I just thought of something my mom said to me many years ago when I was only 12 0r 13 I guess. I always had periods that were very crampy and on the heavier side. Normal for me. My mom said time and time again that it would get better and ease up once I got older and had a baby. Well I never had that baby and the periods never got any better and judging from what I've learned from others here (having these horrible extreme peri symptoms and being childless) I wonder if there is something to this. I have two older sisters and the middle one had three children and me and the oldest never had any. And guess who had the most trouble with periods? Yup! us two childless ones. Just a thought.
Jenney

Hellas, did we know that you were an Aries too? I don't remember you being one also. That makes four of us Aries - what about you Amy and Jenney - what sign are you two ladies?

Jackie

what about you Amy and Jenney - what sign are you two ladies?

Jackie


Hey Jackie;

I am Capricorn...hubby is Virgo. In the Eastern manner, I was born in the year of the Horse.

Jenney

Hi there Everyone!!
Well I reached my word limit again; it just told me when I went to submit!! So instead of trying to edit I will again send this in two parts!!

Part One !! :
Hope your Sunday was a good one!!

Peri-wise, I feel so so bloated today. I didn't even eat much at all today or this weekend really despite the cooking but you know how you can feel that way in spite of how much you eat or do not eat? I feel it mainly in my face and tummy and I hate that!! Do you guys feel like that at times??

Now to your posts which I enjoyed reading :

Molly : No, I didn't abandon you all!! LOL!! I would never do that!! I had posted earlier in the day yesterday and then we were gone most of the day till quite late.

Thanks for the tip about opening the extra browser...this beats copy and paste!! LOL!!

You said it seemed like we had a lot of social stuff going on. Yes sometimes I am a "party animal"!! LOL!! We do have a lot going on at times on the weekends but a lot of what we do is entertain friends in our home. I love spending time here too and also enjoy going out. It is nice to have a good balance.

Mr. and Mrs. Smith was just okay I thought. I did think Brad was very good in it. (of course he could stand still on screen the whole time and I would say he was good in the movie!! ) Their relationship as you said is really hyped isn't it, . Don't know how much of it is true but I'd like to think he didn't cheat on Jennifer. But I am a hopeless romantic for sure!! ...oh and we do have another thing in common as I love the tv show Friends also!! Have several of the seasons on dvd. I think that and Seinfeld are my favorites as far as contemporary shows. And I do like Will and Grace too.

I cannot believe Tom Cruise either these days!! I do like him but he seems to be a little over the top lately about Katie Holmes doesn't he and other things too!!

Now that you described Twin Peaks as an area where you can drive up and see the entire city...we HAVE been there!! It is quite the view!! So do you have a view from where you live? Your home sounds lovely with the 3 levels. That is interesting the fog doesn't hit you as much and you get more sun which is nice!!

It's interesting that so many of us have similar intersts and you also like Dean Martin!! You said you like Andy Williams too...yes I remember Andy and also like him...especially at Christmas time. I love Christmas songs and Andy does those so well!! Love to have some hot chocolate by the tree and listen to him and others. Remember his show when we were little and he had the Osmonds on there?

Another thing we have in common is that I am not a good traveler either. I DO love to travel but I do not like flying at all.

Another thing we have in common is my company is also in engineering. It is wonderful you can work from home!!

Jackie : I am so sorry to hear you are feeling horrible!! I feel for you as I know it is painful and feels like your whole head throbbing. That is good you are calling the dentist in the morning and having him check things out. When your teeth are bothering you it is just miserable!! Hope you are pampering yourself and just taking it easy.

Thanks for the tip on the show "Get Down Tonight". I would have liked to see that and KC and the Sunshine band!! Was it good?

You said " Don't you gals find it really something that we have so much in common here? It is amazing! " yes I agree!! It is really interesting to read the similarities , isn't it??

I really envy you that you have found a hairstyle that you like. How long is your hair? I know you said you wore it shorter but now have let it grow. Mine is in layers and as I said above the shoulders. My hairdresser after cutting it the way I liked at Christmas seems to have had an absence of memory (she is in Peri too so perhaps this is it!!

Wow!! You actually made outfits in sewing class!! You were further ahead than me believe me. I think I pinned one pattern and was out of there!!

You mentioned cooking. yes I do enjoy it. During the week I do not do anything fancy; we just have either grilled fish or some chicken and a veggie or salad (your favorite!!) or we have some pasta some time. But on the weekends I do like to try new recipes if we are entertaining. Your pancakes sound good!! I have never had banana but they sound great. I love blueberry , that is my favorite. We usually have them when we go to the coast for a visit for the weekend with friends or if people are visiting we will have them. My husband makes them. He also enjoys cooking but during the week doesn't do much of it unless it is grilling. But sometimes on the weekend he likes to try recipes. We both like to cook different things so we complement each other.

take care and hugs to you and Molly and now on to Part 2!!

rmc

Hi again and here is Part 2!!


Hellas Can't believe that one tennant in your bldg does laundry every day!! Not on my favorite list of things to do!! And I hear you about the whining kids and commotion!! That drives me crazy too. I couldn't believe it in the movie theatre last night someone had brought 2 kids around 4 and 5!! I can't imagine they were enjoying Mr. and Mrs. Smith and they were of course fidgeting and whining and distrupting everyone else's time around them!! To me it is the parent's fault though to have brought them when they know the kids are not going to be remotely interested in seeing Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie!! I actually thought they were way too young to be in there anyway with all the violence.

Your boyfriend sounds very versatile in his work and interests and sounds creative like you!!

I did not know you were an Aries also!! When is your birthday? Mine is April 12th. So we have 4 Aries in this group so far??

That is so neat you built a doll house!! Bet it is beautiful. I have seen some lovely ones at Craft events.

You said you had a lab at one time. My brother in law has a lab and he was over tonight with him. Our cocker and he do not care too much for each other but they did well tonight but each took a corner and kind of sized each other up but kept their distance!!

You said you were going for your annual GYN appt on Tu. Mine is always in autumn. You said you were going to ask about something for the moods. I take xanax for anxiety as needed but have not had to take it much at all recently. Did so last year earlier in the year and then did not for a good 8 to 9 months.

I LOL when you said those beads end up all over the floor and maybe you "Should start on the floor " to begin with!! LOL!! Your sense of humor really is a lift and reminds me a lot of a friend of mine that I have had since high school. As for the beading, I would give it another try I think as I do like the end product.

I am sorry you lost both your Mom and your sister at a young age. I can relate to your feelings also as I said.

You said you were in international freight forwarding. I have a pen pal I have written to since I was 12 from Great Britian and she does something similar also. I would imagine that it is very interesting like you said talking to people from around the world. But I can also appreciate it is not without it's frustratons.

Jenney Glad to hear that Reba is almost back to feeling like herself. Hope she is feeling even better this evening and tomorrow. I take it from her name and your screenname that she has lovely red hair!! I always wanted to be a red head so I am envious!!

What you mentioned your Mom said when you were 12 or 13 about cramps getting easier when you have a baby, is what my first gyn said to me. I don't know though if it holds true for everyone with kids though as a friend I have has 4 and she has had hard cramps all her life. I do think that for some though it is easier as you said when they have had kids. Would be interesting to look into that.

So Capricorn is your sign. That is the sign of a close friend of ours. My husband is a Virgo like your husband too!! His birthday is Sept. 6th.

Amy : I did see a post from yesterday in here and I did answer that in a post earlier this morning. But wanted to say hi again to you and hope your Sunday is a good one. I think it is neat you too like Dean Martin as I said in the post. We played a cd of his tonight over dinner.

Well everyone it is a bit after midnight and I am headed to bed!! I can hear the rain outside and I love hearing that when we go to bed!!

Hope all of you have a very good start to the week tomorrow (today!!)

Hugs all around,

rmc

Hi Gang,
Couldn't post at all yesterday because our internet was not working. Have reading everyone's posts and had to laugh at rmc's two-part posts. I'm a Virgo...don't exactly know what that means, but I'm definitely NOT a virgin!

I could relate to Hellas day yesterday - I just had a "MAD" on all day, and then by last night I was having the internal shakes, ice cold feet and weird brain sensations so bad I could barely get to sleep. I guess I'm going thru one of those "lovely" peri. seasons. Plus I got stung by a wasp yesterday when I was trying to water my tomato plants, which REALLY made me mad and it itches and burns like crazy today. Anyone have any good remedies for that?

Jackie, Im so sorry about your tooth! I hope the dentist gets you some relief today. That is just miserable.

I love Andy Williams Christmas music too... we live about 3 hours from Branson, MO, and every year I keep thinking I'll get there for one of his Christmas show, but haven't made it yet. Lots of our neighbors have gone and enjoyed it, but say he is old enough now that he's not real lively, but the singing is still good.

And I don't know if being childless would make your peri. and periods and meno. worse, because I've had a child, and my neighbor has two kids and starting into the peri. stuff with the vengeance. My other neighbor has two kids and finally got a hysterectomy because of the constant heavy bleeding, plus my cousin has 3 kids and went through meno. at 33 and has had a horrible time with it. It's funny because I never wanted to have kids either, and then my husbands and my brother both had kids and we said "what the heck", and we had our son, and it has been the biggest blessing of our lives! I love kids now and my only regret is that we didn't have more, but my husband really didn't want another. I don't believe children are for everyone though, otherwise there would be no child abuse, and I think it is wonerful that you all are secure with your decisions to not have children. I wish that I could feel that secure with the fact that we only had one.

Got to go get cleaned up for the day! Have a good one.
Amy

Hi Amy,

So sorry to hear you had the internal shakes and weird brain sensations...it sure is even worse when it hits at night like that. It is ironic you mentioned your feet being so cold as mine were freezing last night!!

When did you first notice your peri symptoms cropping up? For me it was last year as far as bothersome symptoms and it lasted a few months before stabilzing for 8 or 9 months. Then again this year, about the same time frame of Feb/March and into April. It has been on and off after that. this week I just feel very pms-like.

Hate those wasps!! I have only been stung once and think I used Rhuli gel for it which is for bites. It is cooling. I have used it for other bites also.

I have heard good things about Branson. That would be fun to see the Andy Williams Christmas show. He traveled with it one year and came here but we did not get to see it.

I agree as I said, that I do not know how true it is that peri symptoms or period symptoms will be less if one has had children. I have a friend as I said who has 4 kids and has had a rough peri time and had rough periods. Then another friend has 2 kids and she has sailed thru peri so far. I think it is just very individual.

Speaking of very individual you are right that it is a very individual choice to have children of course. I think that it is good to be on the same page as your partner in the decision and it sounds like you both were. How old is your son? You said that your only regret is that you did not have more. From another post where you mentioned going on vacations with family it sounds like you have a lot of children in your extended family so that has to be helfpul to have that in your life since you enjoy children. Even though my husband and I chose not to have them, I do enjoy the fact that we do have children we are close to and have the opportunity to be with at times.

Hope you have a good day, Amy and that you are feeling better.

Take care,

rmc

Hi girls, thought I'd pop in here for a minute. Don't feeling too spiffy today, my head and jaw are hurting. Funny, my across my forehead hurts just as bad as my THROBBING jaw. Went to the dentist first thing this a.m. and they took an Xray and it showed alot of infection. He said to finish the antibiotic, gave me a prescription for pain pills and said we'd try a root canal (oh joy!!) lol I go the 11th and we'll start that. He said he was pretty sure he could save my tooth, and could use the same crown that's on it. I'm praying (Amy, pray along with me, and everyone else for that matter) that it all works out and he can save the tooth. The only thing that concerned him was that one of the roots had shortened.

Amy, I'm sorry you're still having alot of trouble. Your accupuncture didn't last long, did it? I can't ever remember having the internal shake at bedtime, mine were always during the day. Mostly at work, when I would get really stressed. Most of my peri symptoms were anxiety and depression and extreme nervousness. Sometimes I'd feel like I was crawling out of my skin. UGG!!

RMC, I think It's so neat that your grandparents are from Italy! That is so cool. I love italian food, it's one of my favorites. I would love to go to Italy someday. There is something very romantic about Italy to me. One of my old bosses (she doesn't work here any longer) had grandparents from Italy also.

The show that was on the other night had lots of great people on it. KC of course, Clips from the Bee Gees, Donna Summer, Frankie Valle, and lots of other people that had hits from the Disco era. It brought back lots of memories. I love the movie Saturday Night Fever with John Travolta. I love all his older movies anyway - Staying Alive was great too. I loved everything about Disco.

Ok- I have forgotten half of what you wrote, so I will have to re read your prior posts and get back to you. My head is killing me and I'd better get back to work!! My lunch hour is over now.

(as Jenney says) Ta!

Jackie

Hello ladies! Hope everyone is having a fine day so far! Got to make a quick post here before I get too behind.

Hellas, I can only imagine how irritating it can be when you have a bunch of noisy kids! That were definitely bug me too. Sorry you have to deal with neighbors like that. It is one thing to deal with someone constantly doing laundry but to deal with the noise of the kids too! It would drive me crazy! I think parents w/noisy bratty kids become oblivious to it. I can't stand it when someone has a noisy kid at the movies or at a restaurant and do nothing about it. Are they deaf? Their screamin' and running around is what gets me the most! I don't think I would allow my kids to behave like that. I don't allow my dog to behave badly so why would I w/ a kid? I so agree w/your post about babies too. I pretty much don't know anything about them and don't seem to be all that interested either. I'll tell the mother her baby is cute but then the attention is gone. Bad, huh? But, ya know, if I had a kid from somewhere, I probably would be a better than I think I would. I see so many people who shouldn't have kids, or dogs! In our city, we've had a lot of pitt bull attacks lately! It's all the owner's irresponsibilities!

I think it's great that you have a hubby that is handy! Why can't all men be like that? You are lucky! Can I borrow him? My BF tries to be handy but is a procastinator when it comes to fixing things. I do try to fix some things myself, but the big stuff I just don't have the physical strength or know-how to do so. I guess that's why I have to hire my contractor to do everything! I think those of us who are Aries tend to be perfectionist or try to be - I like things orderly and I everything I do should be done correctly or don't do it at all. I don't do things half-*** if you know what I mean! You cracked me up when you said your hubby has taken 10 yrs to build his car! I seen guys living in their garage - is that what's it like? He is so talented too!

You asked if Twin Peaks is the same as the movie. I don't think so - I think the movie was actually taken in another area where all the filthy rich people live - Pacific Heights, maybe. I don't remember the movie very much, don't think I liked it.

Jenney, re your comment about those of not having kids and having bad peri symptoms. I think it holds some truth. I know that w/ my breast issue - the calcifications I got are more common in women who never had kids. I guess it's b/c we never got milk or breastfeed! Women that I know that never had kids and not excessively overweight are the ones that have a more difficult time. All I can say is that it hit me like ton of bricks and I've never had PMS (except sinus headaches), never excessively overweight, always ate healthy, worked out regularly -- ya know, try to do all the right stuff! It's actually not very fair!

Amy - I think it was you who posted yesterday (Sun) about being mad or in this particular mood...well, I noticed that since I've been on Paxil, things just don't bother me anymore. It's either the med, or since going thru my bad peri illness, I realize how bad things can be when it comes to my health and nothing else really matters or is that important anymore. I don't let people bug me as much either. I just write them off, and figure they need me more than I need them. I don't care, can't be bothered in other words! I know you're doing acupuncture,but are you on any kind of meds? Not that I'm suggesting that you should...just curious if those of us who are on some kind of AD, do you notice a difference in your moods? I just read that you had those internal shakes! Gawd! I hated those! I think they are the weirdest! I don't know what to tell you to do other than try taking Magnesium regularly if you haven't. It does go away, it's just hard to tell you when. If you have any anxiety med too - it will help you feel better too. I think it's all related to some kind of nervous system thing. Keep us posted on how you are doing, please!

Hi RMC, Ya know, I don't really like any of Tom Cruise's movies except Rainman. I mean, he's probably nice guy and all but he just never did much for me. I liked Katie Holmes - I actually loved Dawson Creek too, esp. the earlier ones. I was thinking about all you guys having crushes on so-and-so. I now remember having a crush on Frankie Avalon and Michael Landon! Used to love Little House on the Pairie! I'm a real dork when it comes to TV shows/movies! I like all that nice wholesome stuff! One of my favorite movie, While You Were Sleeping. Think being an Aries - we're into the romantic stuff! Oh, I have the whole Friends collection - never opened them! LOL! Just got them for the sake of having them!

I have a view from my house but not the entire city. View of this valley more or less - kind of hard to describe. What kind of area do you live in?

As with flying - I hate flying. I wanted to take a train to Boston once but I think they don't allow dogs. So, if my dog can't go, I don't go. When I flew, I have to taken an anxiety med too. I've told you before I think - I am rather high-mtce. when it comes to my comfort. The whole airport stuff is too hectic for me too, can't deal w/ the crowds and - hey, I need air too - can't stand the air on planes either! It is the turbulence that scares me too! They say our chances of having an accident is greater on the ground! I can never have a job where I travel! I would never take a job if I had to travel! I would have to put Kiwi to work and panhandle! LOL!

Little Jackie - glad you survived the dentist today! I do hope you're feeling better! Geez, you're appt. isn't till the 11th? Isn't that a bit of a wait? You will be fine - you're an Aries - you're tough! I survived my breast stuff - you will do fine too!

I too love Italian food - who doesn't? I could eat pasta every meal! Too bad it can you fat after a while! Does anyone of you eat sushi? I know it lots of other states, it's not that popular, but here in CA, it is. It's not all raw either. Anyway, did you read that that Japanese is the long-lived and the women have almost no peri symptoms? Think it their soy consumption!

Well, think I will end for now before this gets too long too! Plus, I should start to do some work!

Oh, meant to tell you girls, if you don't know this - just a suggestion, go back to some of your old posts and edit and delete stuff that you don't want to remain. Remember, when people do searches, they will most likely come up with our postings and if you don't want your info out there, delete certain parts of it if you want, since most of us have already read them.

hugs to you all and hope you all have a good day!
molly

Hi Jackie,

I am on my lunchbreak and saw your post. I am sorry to hear that your jaw is still throbbing and your forehead too. Like I said it just makes you miserable when your teeth hurt like that. It is a good thing you went in today. I have never had a root canal but know people who have had them and it went very routinely. It sounds like he will save the tooth and I that is great. I understand your apprehension about it all though and am thinking of you. Hope you can come home and just relax and pamper yourself.

You mentioned my grandparents being from Italy, yes both sides of my family.

I too like John Travolta and Saturday Night Fever .

Just wanted to say hi and hope you are feeling better.

Take care.

Hugs,

rmc

Hi Molly,

Glad to hear from you.

I am the way you are with kids in movie theatres and such. I just think that some parents just have tuned it out and so it doesn't bother them. I also think that when some people , not just kids are in movie theatres lately they feel like they are in their livingroom watching a dvd or tape and feel they can just talk outloud!! it is a pet peeve with me!!

I too felt that I worked out and ate healthy and was surprised with having peri hit me so hard. I really thought in my mid to late 40s that I was breezing thru it. WRONG!!

I know you have mentioned the Magnesium before. I probably have asked this before, so forgive the repeat...but how much do you take and when? I am confused with calcium intake and magnesium and when to take both. I know the magnesium is supposed to be good for hot flashes right? which I don't get but I am intrigued that it helps calm people and makes them have a better night's sleep and that appeals to me on both counts.

As far as Tom cruise I am not a huge fan but do like him in some things...Rainman being one of them and the Color of Money and Jerry Maguire too. I think my favorites are Brad Pitt and Kevin Costner and Tom Hanks and Ed Harris for their fne acting as far as male actors.

Michael Landon was also a favorite of mine. I too love the just wholesome and romantic movies and some people may say sappy but that is what I normally like...romantic comedies being my favorite. I never saw While You were sleeping though.

Your view sounds very pretty.

Yes I agree with you about the Italian food and pasta, all in moderation that is for sure. As for sushi...we do have access to that in some of our grocery stores (freshly made) and also many restaurants have it and some specialize in it. You are right in that not all of it is really raw...I like the California Rolls I think they are called? Also have tried the tuna and salmon and really like the latter but I enjoy salmon anyway. I have read that sushi is quite good for you and does not have to be the raw kind and that it is not very caloric. You mentioned Soy. Do you drink the Revival soy, I think you said you did. Are they like in shake form or bar? I had soy this morning, from trader joe's which I think you have in your neck of the woods too. It is a chocolate flavor with no trans fats or cholesterol.

Thanks for the tip on editing our posts, seems like a good idea as you said.

Have a good day and good start of the week.

Hugs,

rmc

rmc:
I go through the exact cycle you described. I'll have tough times here and there with the peri. but come Feb. and March it just becomes awful!

Jackie:
Am on the prayer wagon for you!!!! I just wish they could get you in sooner. My husband just finished his antibiotic for his tooth and I know you have to have all that infection cleared up before they can operate, but getting through the pain and misery is just wicked!!

Molly:
I've tried Zoloft and Celexa and couldn't stand the side effects, it actually made me feel much worse. I had been on Xanax for about a year and it was just driving me crazy every time it wore off I would have rebound anxiety and other symptoms so that's what drove me to have accupuncture. I went again this morning and I do feel better this afternoon. I hadn't had it done in almost a month and a half, so I'm pretty sure I need to do it monthly, maybe twice a month. We'll see.... I'm just one giant experiment!

Got to get to a doctor's appt. for the wasp sting since I'm very allergic, and overnight where he stung me looks like hamburger, so got to go. I'll chat more later.

Amy

Hi all. Reading all about sushi and Italian food has brought back memories of my childhood. Dad was Polish and mom Ukranian and growing up we almost never ate "non traditional" food. Never got white bread until high school. Mom made the most delicious perogies to die for...saurkraut with bacon or cottage cheese or potato with cheddar boiled or fried with tons of melted butter/onions and sour cream. Or borsct and those cabbage rolls. She made tons of this stuff and froze for future meals. Sunday was always roast pork days. All our breads were home made egg and poppyseed bread. She made these little egg bread rolls that had a wedge of apple wrapped inside before baking...don't know the name for these but so good.

Hubby and I live in Brantford (home of Wayne Gretszky) and known as the Telephine City. The part of town we are in is called Holmedale...very old section and it runs along the Grand River. We live just across from the river and walk daily along the dyke with the dogs or bicycle along the trails. It's like living in the country but only 5 minutes from the city. Our home is a little 2 bedroom cottage built in 1943. It is known as a Brantford Cottage...there are tons and tons of them (5 in my immediate part of the street) and the design dates back to the turn of the century and they are all the same. Brick cottage with peaked dormer dead centre and two front windows which are symetrical. Two small bedrooms...some have dining rooms and some do not (I don't) Partial basements which I like cuz that means the laundry facility is on ground level in the mud room. Originall y I was born and raised in Niagara Falls and I'm sure you all know about THAT city!

Well ta for now, sorry for the long post
Jenney

Hi All :wave:

Thought I'd post while I'm boiling eggs for tunafish (eating soft foods for now). I'm feeling better at the moment, but I have my high powered pain pills now, in case I need them. Hope I don't need them tho!

RMC and Jenney, sounds like you have a very interesting heritage. All that talk about foods you had growing up sounds great. Makes me hungry! I grew up in a plain old American family, although one of my ancestors was a President! My mother's mother was kin to James Buchannan, one of the earlier presidents. My grandmother was a Buchannan.

RMC, I forgot that I was supposed to try to describe my hair style. Well... have you seen any pictures of the John Freida advertisement about "Mad about Hair" where they are showing products for Blondes, Brunettes and Redheads? Well, my hair is styled like the blonde. Only I style mine a little more towards the face and not quite so straight. It's past shoulder length, tapered on the sides and in long layers, but all one length in the back. I have bangs across the front.

I'm with you on liking Ed Harris. I think he's one sexy man. Another one of my very favorites is Keanu Reaves. I just LOVE him, there's just something about him, and we love all the Matrix movies. I'm like you and Molly, I love romance movies too. You definitely need to see "While You Were Sleeping", it's a great movie. My hubby and I love Driving Miss Daisy, Steel Magnolias, and The Color Purple. We have to watch them every time they are on.

Molly, thanks for the encouragement about my dental procedure. I would have liked to get started on it sooner, but that was the first opening he had. He stays pretty booked up. I'm going to let my hubby drive me and I'm going to take a Xanax and maybe it will knock me out! lol :yawn: I can't believe you fall asleep in the dentist's chair. I'm always scared to death.

I am not like you and RMC about flying tho. I love to fly, and I definitely want a window seat so I can see the scenery outside. I only got nervous one time, and that's when we were flying back from Detroit in a storm. It was pretty rocky!

I meant to tell you earlier, your job sounds very impressive. It sounds like you know alot about things I know nothing about. I know I am impressed!

Amy, thanks for the prayers. I definitely need them, I am such a baby when it comes to my teeth. I am terrified that anything they do will hurt me. :eek: See why I never had the courage to have a baby?? lol That would hurt too! Plus I never really had the urge to have one. We have a great niece that is like a grandchild to us, and she's only 2 1/2. Of course, I had a part-time child anyway, that was enough for me - oh boy!

Jenney, I can't imagine the thing you were talking about your mother making, but it sure sounds good. I used to bake bread too, I made sourdough bread and it was wonderful, but I always gave most of it away and it was pretty expensive to keep it up, so I just quit making it. Too much trouble for the little bit we ate. Your home sounds really cosy. Where you live sounds like a really nice place, like out of a picture book. When you say "dyke" I picture something like Holland. :)

Hellas - hope we hear from you later and that you've had a better day. Sounds like you and Amy both had a MAD day yesterday :)

Check back in on you gals later!

Jackie

Hi Amy, Hope you're OK now after getting stung by a wasp...has been taken care of? It probably hurts and itch like crazy - probably all red too! I get mosquito bites sometimes and they often get really big and red. Probably allergic to it but don't know it. Now with the West Nile virus, it is scary to have mosquitos flying around!

Why does the Xanax wear out for you? Maybe you need a higher dosage? I think you should do whatever it takes to feel better - whether it's natural, acpuncture, or going on meds that many of us are scared to be on - just do it temporary even until your hormones settled down. With me, out of desperation, I went on Paxil and trust me, I was really down on myself for having to go that direction. I hate having the anxiety - I can't deal with it if it come/go!

Hey Jackie - meant to tell you - they are looking for women to audition for Barbie in Los Angeles! Think it's for a play or something! Whatcha think? Any interest? LOL! Well, hope you're feeling better. I know lots of people are scared of the dentist - I'm petrified of going to the gyn so I understand what it feels like to be really nervous/scared - hey I'm scared to death of mice of any sizes, rats! I will literally shake and jump on a table at the sight of a field mouse even!! Sometimes the neighbor's cat brings me a treat and drop it on the driveway! Yikes! I won't even leave the house when this happens! Once my little dog brought in a field mouse thru her doggie door! Thank goodness my BF was here and took it away - he told me it was dead but later I found out it was still alive! Yikes! :eek: :eek:

Yes, and RMC, you should watch the movie, While You Were Sleeping. My girlfriend and I watched that movie probably over a dozen times and know the lines too! LOL! I loved Bill Pullman and Sandra Bullock in it - they make a good couple - very romantic and sweet!! Wished they did a sequel to it. Makes you go goo-goo gaa-gaa over him! Oh, I do drink revival soy shakes. It comes in powder in little packages and you mix it up with fruit, ice, or whatever in a blender. It is kinda expensive - it's the packaging that they really could do without. A month supply is about $60. Their chocolate covered soy nuts are really good but it's about $15 fo a lb. of that! Their soy pasta is very good too but it's about $3/lb. I do think it has helped with the hot flashes tho!

And, Jackie, as with my job. I do use a variety of software packages so I'm pretty good with the computer. I know stuff like Word and Excel inside/out, Photoshop, all these graphics stuff. I self-taught myself to web pages too. Oh, I went yesterday to the craft store and got myself all this scrapbook stuff - boy! it was overwhelming - there was so much to look at and to buy! I'm excited about working in these projects - plan to have them as xmas presents!

And Jenney and all of you talkin' about food got me hungry!!! I'm craving for a good salami sandwich w/provlone cheese right now! But, I can't - b/c it's high in fat! Gimme gimme!!! Think I'm just hungry right now...I'll probably eat anything! I have this bad habit of forgetting to eat sometimes!

Hang in there ladies!
molly

Jenney:
I LOVED hearing about all that delicious food your mother used to make and the description of where you live sounds wonderful! I feel like I just went on vacation and didn't leave my house...we live by a lake in a small community and I used to love walking my dog out here. She would swim in the lake every day and I would throw stick after stick for her to swim after. I'm just gonna have to break down and get another dog!!!

Jackie:
Since you like romantic movies, have you ever seen "Return to Me" with Minnie Driver, David Duchovny and Bunnie Hunt? It is SO good. It's one of my husband's and mine's favorites. I like the ones you mentioned too. You keep hanging in there....I'll keep praying! I'm headed out for my daily walk and that's when I do a lot of my praying.

Have a good evening everyone!
Amy

Wow! 15 new posts and it isn't even 24 hrs.!!!
Hi Amy, sorry you had a bad day yesterday too. I'm blaming it on the 3 planets that were all close together on Sat. and the full monn last week! Gotta blame something. Can't all be hormones, can it? I think the magnesium does help those internal quakes, now that every has mentioned it. I don't have 'em as bad since I've been taking that. I think I'm getting 1500 mg with my calcium tabs. Helps with the palpitations, too, if any of you get them. Hope the wasp sting is ok. I had a yellow jacket plop onto my shirt yesterday while I was reading the paper and FREAKED!!! I don't do bugs!!! Know what I mean? I'm an animal lover, reptile lover, I even like rodents, bats, etc...anything but bugs!
Molly, I'm interested in this accupunture. What's it like? I mean the procedure. I wan't to try it for my back, but...
I think we're the only singles here. I've always been single. My BF has been around for about 5 yrs I guess. He's real handy, but usually just ask advice on stuff & do it myself, rather than wait for him or anyone else to do it. He gets a little put out when I don't ask him for help, but....like carrying the new a/c up the stairs and putting it in the window when I just got over the displaced ribs thing. What am I supposed to do, sweat to death waiting for him? It was hot, and I needed it in that day. See, no patience whatsoever!
Jackie, I think on the other thread I said I was an Aries. April 15th. Tax day.
Sure hope the antibiotic takes hold soon. Stinks when you have to eat only certain foods, and it hurts all the time. Sounds promising that he can save the crown. Don't feel bad about taking something beforehand. I have some ativan, & I carry it with me for times like that! But I don't think even ativan would work for flying. If you can fly no problem, than the dentist should be a breeze!!!
RMC...Only 3 days apart on the birthday. Practically twins! Both you & Jackie love Ed Harris too??? Me too. Don't know what it is about him, but I'd watch him in just about anything (as long as Tom Cruise wasn't in it...don't like him at all.) OK, some of TC movies were good, but still don't like him. I'm a sap for that wholesome stuff too, like Little House. But I think my real love is sci-fi. Not the gory stuff...like slasher film, but good stories like Stephen King, Speilberg...and even I admit the new T.Cruise film (remake of War of the Worlds) looks good.
Jenney: I love perogies. OMG, I haven't had those in years. ANd never had real homemade ones. They must be awesome. My bro-in-law is polish, so he's added some new flair to our plain american family. Your cottage sound awesome. I love places like that. There is a house a few streets over from me that I can't keep my eye off. Every time I drive by, I go slow and look at it. It's a little arts & crafts bungalow (rare in this are of Victorian houses). I dream of owning that house.
Your house & community sounds really charming. Picturesque.

Now...I have a question for everyone... I was reading last night that that women who have bad PMS, PMDD, etc also experience bad peri & meno. Looking back I had awful PMS, except they just told you to live with it back then. Now they treat it. So anyone else agree, disagree with that??? I'm in agreement.
Glad to see everyone again... hope everyone has better days ahead.
Hellas

Hellas:
I agree. I've always had bad PMS and just didn't realize it. I'm surprised my husband hasn't bonked me in the head and thrown me in the lake at times. He's always just laughed at me and said "your getting ready to start your period aren't you?" But even he is freaked out by this peri. stuff! And I agree with the bug business - they are evil!
Except I do like to watch lightning bugs in the summer, and butterfly's as long as they don't land on me.

My wasp sting is burny, itchy, red, swollen and stingy. Fun, huh? The doc. gave me some kind of prescription cream and an antibiotic in case it gets worse in the next couple of days. Hopefully it will subside on its own this time.

And guess what - I don't like Tom Cruise either! This whole thing with him having a new "someone" in his life is just so overblown and ridiculous! WHO CARES! OK, I've put my two sense in...anyone else have an opinion about the PMS, PMDD thing?
I agree with better days ahead.
Amy

Hi girls, you have been busy while I've been watching tv. Ok - gotta ask - what is PMDD? Then I will give my opinion on it.

Pre-Menstrual Dysphoric Disorder. It supposedly makes PMS look like a walk in the park. Women get positively hysterical with it. (Not sure I spelled some of this right.)

Wow, I've never heard of that one! Glad I didn't ever have that! My PMS wasn't too bad either, just kind of moody and irritable.

Hi Everyone,

Just checking in tonight. You have been busy since I was last here at lunchbreak!! :)

First of all the PMS/PMDD. My gyn said that if one has a history of bad PMS they usually have a harder time in Peri. She said peri can be a like a "long pms" for some and I agree with that. I have always had tough pms, not every month but a lot of the time and so I do think there is a connection. Peri does mimic pms in many ways although it is not just 2 weeks before one's period but longer, like the gyn said.

Now to your individual posts which I enjoyed reading :

Amy : That is something that you too seem to have had the toughest peri times in Feb. and March both years too. Don't know what that is about either!!

I was going to ask you also as Molly did what the dosage was on the xanax. Mine is 5 mg. but it says take 3 times a day as needed. When anxiety was really bad, I took two a day, halving one during the day. Normally just one in the evening did the trick for me though. I have not taken it in quite some time . Whatever works for everyone is what they should do and acupuncture seems to be working for you. Since you had not gone in a month and things flared , going more often is a good idea. For me going to the chiropractor more often when my back flares helps the peri symptoms that relate to that as during pms my back is worse and the pms is longer for me as I said in peri.

Glad you got a cream for your bite. Hope you are doing better with it soon.

I agree with you about Tom Cruise ..he is a "bit" over the top lately to say the very least!!

Jackie: I am thinking of you and hoping you are doing better tonight. I understand the apprehension with the dentist...I am like that with the gyn and dr. Believe me I am very anxious about things like that so know how you feel.

That is really interesting that Pres. Buchanan was kin to your grandmother!! I love reading historical biographies and especially anything about presidents and first ladies.

I will have to look at the ad that you are talking about to check out your hairdo.

I will definitely check out While you were sleeping. Really like romantic movies too. Have many favorites that aren't coming to mind at the moment but one of them is You've Got Mail. Also the The Way we Were. Always have loved Robert Redford!!

I wish I could love to fly as you do!! I do love traveling and it does take something away from a trip being fearful about part of it. I do try to distract myself and sometimes am better at it than others.

Molly:
You mentioned the movie While you were sleeping had Bill Pullman in it. I liked him in : Apollo 13. Believe he was in that.

You mentioned the chocolate covered soy nuts.

You will have fun with the scrapbooking!! I really enjoy it. I am working on one for my husband's 50th in Sept. That is a great idea to give them as Christmas gifts.

Jenney Loved reading about your childhood memories also. And the perogies...love those!! .

Your home sounds lovely and quaint and the area so scenic.

I LOL that you were apologizing for the "long post"....I take the cake as they say in that dept!! LOL!!

Hellas Yes you and I are "practically twins" as you said!! Born just a few days apart!!

You mentioned the magnesium also. So you take it at the same time with the calcium?

Hope you all have a good night. I tried to make this post a bit shorter. Appreciate you guys listening. Somehow knowing we are all in this together helps!!

Have a goodnight and great tomorrow!!

Hugs to all,

rmc

Hi RMC, thanks, I am feeling much better today. I hope not to have to take any pain medication today (keeping my fingers crossed)!!

I am with you about Robert Redford, I used to just swoon over him, and love The Way We Were. I still cry everytime I watch it. Did you see "The Notebook"? Girl - that is the BEST movie. If you haven't, you definitely need to watch it. It's out on DVD now.

I keep meaning to comment on the magnesium. I have been taking that for quite a few years now since reading in a book about peri that it helps you to sleep better and is calming. I take three an hour before bedtime of the brand that comes from Walmart that has Chelated Zinc in it. It's Spring Valley brand. I wonder if I haven't had the internal shakes very much because I take the magnesium? Here is what they said you should take:

Essential Vitamins:

Vitamin B complex, including 50 to 100 mg of B6
Vitamin C, 500mg a day
Vitamin E, 400 to 1200 i.e.
Magnesium, 500 to 1000 mg before sleeping
Take magnesium separate from calcium and on a 1:1 ratio.
Almonds are a good source of good fat and magnesium

Symptoms of magnesium deficiency:

Nervousness Apathy
Anxiety Depression
Irritability Perspiration increase
Muscle tremors Body odor increase
Muscle cramps Urination increase
Memory loss Constipation
Concentration problems Insomnia

Low Zinc Levels:

Frontal Headache Food cravings
Heavy Menstrual flow Mood swings
Menstrual Irregularities Fatigue
Constipation Depression
Weight gain Yeast infections


Helpful oils and Herbs:

Flaxseed Oil
Evening Primrose Oil
Black Cohosh (Remifemin by Enzymatic Therapy)
Dong Quai


Hope this helps you and anyone else with questions about what we need during this time.

So your hubby is just turning 50 this year? Smart gal getting a younger man! Men typically die earlier than us, so yours should be around longer. My hubby is four years older than me. You really can't tell it tho, his hair has very little gray in it. He has nice THICK hair. Wish he could give me some of it!

I agree with all you ladies about peri being like a long case of PMS. That's exactly how I would describe has it was for me. Mine came in cycles too like you, RMC and Amy. I would be bad for several months, be ok for several, and then I think when I fully went into menopause, it was bad all the time.

Hey Molly- two more days to go for your one-year mark!! How ironic would it be if you started your period on the 30th? Mother nature can be very cruel like that sometimes. As for the Barbie contest - WELL>>>> wish I really looked like Barbie! The only thing we have in common is blue eyes and blonde hair! I wish I looked like her, I'd really have it made! I also meant to tell you that Ginger does the same thing about eating. She will get her a bite, and go into the living room and eat hers on the carpet. My Yorkie Poo did that too. Wonder what that is all about? Sometimes she'll even get up on the couch and eat. Another funny question for you. Have any of your female dogs wanted to hunch on your leg? Both of mine have. Ginger will sit there and bark at my hubby until he puts his leg down where she can jump on his leg and go to town on it. It is so funny! I've never heard of female dogs doing that. She didn't start that until we had her spayed tho. (Kinda gross too, but funny)

Jenney - you have me wanting to come take walks with you along the dyke. It sounds so lovely there.

Amy, hope you're feeling better today. Thanks for the prayers - as they seem to be helping! I do most of my praying on the way to work. It's a 30 minute drive, so I have plenty of time. So, I'm listening to my CC music on K LOve and praying on the way, so God is right there with me all the way, so comforting.

Hellas, let us know how your doctor appt turns out. You know, my cousin that is two weeks younger than me is on HRT and she said that she is having night sweats, moodiness, etc - just like us. So, it doesn't seem to be helping her. I told her maybe she needed to try Lexapro since it has aleviated all my symptoms.

Well - it's PAST time to start to work, and five minutes till I go to Bible Study. We have a small group that is open to anyone who want to come and we meet for 15 minutes and have a devotion and then prayer time. Really helps with our day. I am just glad they allow us to do that.

Have a great day everyone!!

Jackie :)

Hey ladies,
Hope all is well with everyone!

I have seen the movie, Return to Me, and it is good too! Another movie that I liked enough to buy! I also like Ed Harris too! I can't believe how much some of us have in common! I prefer the mature man vs. boy-like Tom Cruise. I have also seen and read the book, The Notebook. Excellent movie, a must-see, RMC, if you haven't seen it! Not a romantic movie, but I also love Second Hand Lions with Michael Caine and Robert Duvall...and the little kid from Six Sense.

Hey Jackie, thanks for sharing the vitamin list. I was wondering how many of you ladies take Vit E still? Think there was some news on how people shouldn't be taking it as much as they think. When I had my breast thing done, the nurse told me that if I was taking all these oils such as Evening Primrose and Flaxseed, I didn't need to take the Vit E. I stopped and now I noticed the skin on my face is drier.

Jackie, we mustn't talk about my 1-year mark!! Don't you know it would jinx it? LOL! RMC and I talked about her period and the next thing ya know, she got it! Actually, the 30th was the last day that I had my period a year ago! I think I'm pretty dried up by now but still keeping my fingers crossed!

You asked if my little girl dog humps my leg. I massage her with my feet sometimes and then she tries sometimes! LOL! I don't let her tho. I've read that it's a dominating thing. She got spayed at 6 mos. so I don't know where all this comes from LOL! She doesn't do it to my BF at all. In fact, she kisses the ground he walks on! If he calls her, she drops whatever she is doing and goes to him and sits down! With me, she runs around the house making me play chase with her! She is such a brat sometimes - I feed her, walk her, lug her around, spend all my money on her, and she adores him over me!! Treats me like dirt! LOL! Brrr! She flirts with him, kisses him like she haven't seen him for years, really goes goo-goo ga-ga over him! Of course, she cries bloody murder the minute I'm out of her sight but still... :confused: Guess she looks at him as the alpha! She definitely takes me for granted! Does Ginger do any of this?

Hey Hellas, I didn't have acpuncture. It was Amy, so maybe she can answer us on what was actually involved.

Now, the question about PMS and PMDD - I know that I NEVER had bad PMS (no difference in mood even) and I don't know if what I went thru was some form of PMDD leading into menopause. With me, I had like a truckload of symptoms that came on suddenly. During 5 mos. (Aug 03-Jan 04) of feeling horrible, I had my period the first 3 mos. and during those 3 mos. I didn't feel any better or necessarily worse either. Once I was put on the Paxil CR which PMDD is listed as something it treats, I was feeling much much better. I just know that my transition from someone who never had PMS really to menopause was really severe.

Have a good day, ladies!!
molly

Hi Jackie,

Glad to hear that you are feeing much better today!!

Thank you so very much for sharing about the vitamins and supplements!! I am going to print it out. I have to admit that since I was going thru again a year later, a repeat of last year's Feb/March and part of April peri-craziness, that I stopped taking some things ...the Vitamin B Complex that I was taking daily I am taking a couple times a week; and the Estroven, which is an over the counter vitamin herbal suppement for this time I stopped taking as I felt it may be duplicating the multi I take. I am a multi, calcium, flaxseed and Vitamin E I take a couple times a week. Since I started feeling better, I don't know if it was due to decreasing some things or not. I just know that I was taking far more before and feeing worse and then when i cut back I felt better. My system does not take pills well and when I start re-introducing other things again I need to do so with dinner and not in the morning as I was. I did take Evening Primrose last year and did not find it helped me. I think the Estroven was duplicating it Black Cohosh is in the Estroven by the way. It semed to help last year and then when I had the "relapse" I wondered if it was all helping as I obviously was back to square one. I really do not know if cutting back on some things helped or if it is just that my hormones are more stable for some reason. I am really aware that could change at any time though and that bothers me!!

I have not seen the Notebook and I have to be honest, knowing what I do about it, I don't know if I want to see it. LOL!! My husband and I both feel we'd be crying thru it!! We couldn't even get thru Ghost!! LOL!! I know it is about Alzheimer's and right now my mother-in-law is in late stage dementia and it is a very pathetic situation so it just all hits close to home from what I know of the movie but perhaps I am wrong. I know people say it is truly beautiful though.

The fact that you said that when you fully went into meno. your symptoms became bad all the time, really is scary!! Although I know each of us is very individual. It is so good the Lexapro is working for you!!

What you described with Ginger is what our friends little female schnauzer does!! Our cocker is a male and never did it but she does!! How funny!!

Thanks again for the info!!

Have a good day and take care,

rmc

Hi Molly,

Hope you are having a good day!!

I just read your post. I have not seen Return to Me and would like to. You
may have read that I am a bit hesitant about seeing Notebook. The subject matter just sounds heartwrenching to both my husband and me and as I said we didn't even make it thru Ghost!! But I have heard such good things about The Notebook. Second Hand Lions would definitely like to see...Michael Caine is a favorite of ours.

I too cannot believe how much some of us have in common!! It is neat to read similarities!!

I had read about Vitamin E also but had never taken it daily. You said your skin is noticeably drier not taking the vitamin E. I have the opposite problem as I have always had oily skin.

I will not talk about You Know What... for fear it will come!! LOL!!

The whole story about your little Kiwi and her crush on your boyfriend is so cute!! Again this sounds like one of our friends schnauzers!! The younger one just follows her male owner around and his wife has often said she is a "Brat" as she ignores her at times!! LOL!! Our dog defnitely has always felt that my husband is the Alpha dog. He is devoted to me also but when he was a puppy he followed my husband around far more than me it seemed much to my chagrin!! How old is Kiwi again?

You were fortunate that you did not have PMS in any shape or form!! Like I said befor peri I did not have it monthly but often enough to have it be a bother. I always had tough periods. I do feel peri is a long pms, that is what it feels like. I am very bloated feeling this week and a bit moody too where that is concerned.

Always good to see your posts.

Have a good Tuesday.

Take care,

rmc

Hi RMC,
I'm taking a short break from work - yep, been working this morning for once! LOL! The guys I work for will call me all hours of the day and night sometimes so that's why I don't feel guilty for goofing off sometimes. I make myself available to them as long as I get to work from home!

Hey, speaking about the movie Ghost! Geez, I bawled my eyes out watching that movie! Esp. watching Demi Moore cry! When I mean bawl, I mean drenching wet in the face - soaked! Tears gushing from my eyes, nose running, eyes swollen, heart just breaking!!! Happened at the movies and the same thing when I purchased the movie and watched it a second time! It's nice to know I'm not the only one that is a basketcase when it comes to this kind of stuff! LOL! Can you believe I cried over a dog commercial? There was this one about dogfood - where they showed a young little girl with a Golden Retriever pup going up some stairs, then it shows them getting older - the girl as a teen - the dog a bit bigger going up the stairs - then the girl as a women - the dog all grey and can barely go up the stairs! I also cried over the cartoon The Fox and the Hound - when th lady had to abandon the fox leave him back in the woods! Geezz!! My BF laughs at me - but at the same time, he thinks it cute. Speaking of younger men - well, my BF is 6 yrs younger! He will e turning 46 in July. How's that for an old nitty?!? He thinks he looks older and feels older than me tho.

The Notebook was a very heartwarming movie, I don't think I cried over it but I loved it. When you're ready, watch it! I get all my movies from netflix. Don't know if you guys heard of it - it's thru the mail. The best thing they ever invented. What's cool is that you can search for so many movies and watch some that you've never heard of but can read reviews and base it on that. I just cancelled it temporarily so I can give myself time to work on my scrapbooks instead of watching movies at night.

Well, got to get going again - going for a walk! Been sitting too long!

Have a good one, always enjoy hearing from ya
molly

Well ladies, as promised, I will update all on my doc app't I just came back from. He is not worried at all. The isolated period I had was minor (compared to the awful ones I have had all my life) and there was no spotting on either side. So, I';; get an ultrazound next tues to see what thickness the womb lining is...5 cm or less and no worries. Over 5 cm and I will have a biopsy. Then we take it from there. Compared to my sister who had her period return almost 2 yrs after meno and it would not stop...she said it was just a red river for weeks with only a few days break. She had the ultrasound/biopsy and a D/C and then was suggested she have a hysterectomy which she refused and was sent to a specialist in another, bigger, city and she re adjusted the type/strength etc of her hormones and voila...all ended happily. But my pattern is not like hers at all. Like I said to hubby, if the periods I had all my life were as easy as this last isolated one, I would have been a happy camper. Anyhow, I'm not worried. Especially after hearing some of you ladies' stories...even doc was not surprised and said about 90% of his meno patients had this happen...just once. One step at a time. Funny thing though, he is calling me menopausal, not peri. I guess either his standards or those here in Ontario are different; they figure 10 months period free is past peri. Could be because the previous 2 yrs was DEFINATELY peri...the periods/mental situation/sweats etc etc etc were horrible...I thought I would either spontaneously combust or melt away like the wicked witch of the north!

Ta for now, gotta get ready for work. Oh I rreated myself and got pizza and a big homemade browndie for my supper tonight! I'm allowed...I'm in menopause!

Jenney

Hi Molly,

Good to hear from you.

No you are not alone with weeping at movies...believe me I have sobbed out loud at some!! I had not seen Ghost at all and saw it on the plane once...WITHOUT the earphones and cried!! And anything with dogs...forget it!! That commercial you mentioned would have done me in too!!

So your boyfriend is 6 years younger!! Good for you!!

I have heard about Netflix and often toyed with the idea of subscribing. sounds like it would be great just in terms of the database of movies it has.

How has your illiac crest area been doing lately by the way? This past month my back and that area were great...no problem and my period was really not bothersome as you know. But this past week have felt a bit of that area not too bad though. I am working out daily , mostly the elliptical and I think that the consistent exercise does help.

Always enjoy hearing from you!! Hope your day is going well.

Hugs,

rmc

Jenney,

I knew you were going to the gyn but did not know it was due to an isolated period you had. Guess i missed the background. So before this last period you are mentioning,you had been without a period for 10 months? I have read too that the isolated period after not having one is not a worry. A friend of mine had the same scenario, getting one after not having one for over a year.

You mentioned you were going to have an ultrasound. I had an ultrasound, pelvic and transvaginal in Oct. after a pap I had came back with the endometrial lining being a bit thicker. The Pap was fine but they noticed the thickness of the lining in the results. Everything was fine. What happened was my period was due and it came right after the Pap and it is common for the lining to be thicker then.

And good for you that you treated yourself after your gyn appt to a pizza and homemade brownie for supper...ENJOY!! (of course you now have me craving Pizza!!)

Good to hear from you.

Take care,

rmc

And good for you that you treated yourself after your gyn appt to a pizza and homemade brownie for supper...ENJOY!! (of course you now have me craving Pizza!!)

rmc


Nanner nanner nanner :p


and it's alllll mine and I don't have to share if I don't want to


Sorry...I'm in a good mood :D right now and couldn't resist. ;)

Hey Jenney,
Refresh my memory as to why you went to the doc. Did you have a period after not having it for 10 mos? If so, does this mean the 1-yr mark starts all over for you? And, I would think you be in menopause after not having for 10 mos! I know of many women who get some kind of spotting after not having a period for a long time. In more cases than not, it's usually nothing. I figure it's some kind of leftover that is seeping its way out! Are you in a good mood b/c you went to see the gyn??? Wow, you're amazng if that's the reason!

My sister was very similar to yours except mine ended up having a full hyst. The gyn said she would have been bleeding for the rest of her life thinking it was a period, never going into menopause, when actually it was a thick uterine lining she had.

It is nice to hear you're not worried! I wish I could be like that! I worry over a lot more than I should sometimes! I very much a drama queen and a wimp when it comes to all this health stuff! I just can't imagine what I'll be like when I'm really old and if I get something really bad! :eek:

Go ahead and pig out on your pizza! And don't share it either!! I'm going to have that salami/provolone cheese sandwich which I've been craving (yes, I've decided I deserve it - afterall, I'm in menopause too!).

ta-ta,
molly

Hi RMC,
We would be some pretty sight to see if we were both sitting there watching Ghost together! Both of us drenched in tears - sobbing away! One time, my BF came home and I was home sobbing over Lassie! Nothing happened to Lassie - his owner was some old man who ended up in the hospital and Lassie had to search for him. My BF asked why was crying when they reunited and nothing bad happened. I said it's the thought that Lassie probably was crushed and devastated and had to search high and low for his owner! I could only imagine what she was going thru! I watch and have all the dog movies too. I cried in Turner & Hooch too! You should check out netflix esp. if you're into renting movies - you get to try it for a month for free - in the beginning the movies came really fast - like the next day - now it seems to take a little longer but that's because they lowered the cost.

My illiac crest area has been actually better lately. I don't know if it's b/c I've been taking couple of aspirin or what. Sometimes my right hip bone and my butt muscle hurts too. Then it goes away. If I'm correct, the illiac crest is right where the waist is. Is that where you ached too? Mine feels tight sometimes - at first, I was worried that it was the kidney area but I guess that's more to the back. What is actually the ellipitical? Isn't that a curve of some sort? I do know that since I've starting using weights, it has been a lot better!!

molly :wave:

Hey Molly
Yes, after 10 months I had a rather uneventful minor period for 5 days so doc wanted to discuss this with me. He is not concerned about it at this time because it was so uneventful and he quoted that almost 95% or so of his women patients in meno had this happen. Yes I have to start counting all over BUT my doc considers 10 months to be meno. I am scheduled for an ultrasound next Tuesday. I'm not worrying because so many others have it worse I guess. Besides if I can survive a bout of food poisoning (3 weeks ago) and two yrs ago gall bladder removal and pancreatitis, I can survive this...like someone here said, no one has died from menopause!

I am in a good mood only because I am feeling so good today. And the panic over the period was for naught. I got a good sleep last night. Hubby was cheerful too and my Reba the greyhound is over her heat sickness and back to her old silly self. And like I said, I got pizza and brownies for supper.

Besides, this is what I am like now, feel on top of the world for weeks and maybe have a crash one day and freak out and then back to good. For me personally, this is the BEST time of my life, strange as it may seem. I first got married at 19 and that one lasted 10 yrs and it was hell! Poverty/living in motels and even a trailer park in a tent! Long story and painful.

Now my present hubby and I have been married 15years and it has been the best-we don't even fight! Our home is paid for/new truck is paid for/great hubby/finally losing weight and my blemished skin has cleared up. Have three dogs and two cats (I am a real big animal lover...big time) . Hubby is retired and does almost everything at home and waits on me hand and foot. And he is soooo patient and understanding with what is happening to me.

Oh, and the end of July my two sisters and I are flying to Saskatchewan to visit the cousins (all our relatives are out west) who are all still farming. Haven't seen them since 1967 except for one, Pauline, who was here last summer for a week!

And go ahead and chomp down on that sandwich! Meno is as good an excuse as any ;)

Ta, Jenney

Well, just cheked in for the night and you all are just too busy on here for me to keep up with all this. Everyone talking about the food though has me craving a hot fudge sunday.
Glad Jenny, Jackie & Amy are feeling better after good gyno checkup, teeth & and bee stings. Molly & RMC, always enjoy your posts.
Have my gyn exam tomorrow, so better go make my list of questions/concerns or I;ll get there & forget everything.
Have a good night all.
H.

Hi All - you sure have been busy tonight while I was doing my workout! I feel fine tonight and didn't have to take any pain meds today at all. :)

Everyone talking about food made me hungry, so I had to make me a fancy big salad for supper - and then post! Hellas, that hot fudge sundae sure sounds good. I am a bonafide chocoholic. Good luck on your doctor appt tomorrow.
.
Jennie, I am glad you're feeling better about your period now. I am sorry you had such a terrible first marriage, but so glad for you that you have a good one now! One of my good friends from high school went thru two really bad marriages and now is married to a guy 11 years younger than her, and he treats her like a queen. You both are very lucky. I am happy you found someone to be good to you, you deserve it. I haven't had a period now since December, but in March I went to the gyno and he did a blood test and it said that I was "In Menopause". Been six months now without a period.

Molly, Ginger definitely clings to my hubby more than she does me, but she follows me around like a little pupppy dog and if I'm in here on my computer, she sits right by the chair the whole time I'm in here and if I am taking a shower, she lays out in the hallway by the bathroom. When I call her, she will run and jump up on the chouch with him rather than me. She has to come sit with me when it's HER idea, lol.

I don't take the Vitamin E much anymore since I saw that report about it on TV. I do take the Flaxseed dand Evening Primrose, so maybe I'm ok. I do know that Flaxseed is suppose to be good for your skin. I can't take the Blach Cohosh because it irritates my stomach so bad.

Well, I know that I am forgetting something, but all of a sudden that crazy werid head sensation has come over me and I almost fell asleep sitting here typing!!! I nearly fell asleep several times coming home today when I'd stop at red lights. That scares me to death - kind of like what you described Molly. btw - maybe since you didn't ever has PMS - you had peri super bad - all your PMS's rolled into one!!

You ladies have a good night and I will check in with ya later! Got to get up and stir around a bit.

Jackie

PS - Molly - cool on your bf being six years younger than you. You are one smart lady! :)

Hi Jenney,

You had me LOL with "Nanner nanner nanner and it's alllll mine and I don't have to share if I don't want to"!! LOL!! Hope you enjoyed every bite of your pizza and the brownie!!

You have a wonderful attitude!! I know Molly said she is a "drama queen" but I have to say I think I have that title cornered!! I

Your good mood is contagious so thanks for verbalizing how you were feeling in a good mood. I agree with you at this time one can feel great and then "crash one day" as you said and then back to feeling on top of things. Here's hoping that we all have more of the latter!!

Have a good night!!

Take care,

rmc

RMC, I just reread my earlier post (now that I have woken back up) lol and the whole part I wrote to you seems to be gone! I must have hit something on the laptop and erased the whole paragraph to you - geez, I hate this laptop!

Well, I was saying that you really do need to see The Notebook as it is a very romantic and happy/sad movie at the same time. I cried at the end, but it was a good cry, not really sad. My motherinlaw died of Alzhimers too several years ago. She was 93 tho. She had a sharp mind until got developed that. It was very sad to watch her changing and not being the person she had always been, especially when she didn't know anyone - but she always knew me for some reason. I loved his mother very much, she was always really good to me. She loved me too, especially since I stuck by her son even when he was going thru his bad times. She would really be proud of him now if she knew how he had changed.

As far as crying at movies, my hubby is just as bad about it as I am, lol. Before he got his meds straight, he'd cry watching most anything. When our other dog Sassy died, I'd come home and he'd have her blanket in his lap and be crying like a baby. He was just devastated. He is a very tenderhearted person. Much moreso than I am.

I don't think I have seen "Come Back To Me" but I will have to look for that at Blockbuster when I go back for some more movies. Hitch was pretty good, but not as funny as I thought it would be. Had a good story line and a good ending tho. One of my favorite movies is Dirty Dancing and Sweet Home Alabama. I used to love Patrick Swazey. I don't think he looks nearly as good now tho. Grease was just on, and I caught some of it, I always like that movie too. I like movies with lots of music and singing in it.

I didn't realize you were an only child. I almost was one! I was 9 when my sister was born. Now it seems like we're the same age. She has two children and one is 14 and the other is 8, a boy and girl. She has two step children also. If I had been thru all she has - I'd have been in the insane aslym!!

Well, didn't want you to think I had left you out! I must have deleted your part when I fell asleep! lol

Have a nice night,

Jackie

Hellas,


Good luck with your gyn appt tomorrow. I do the same thing...make a list of questions, etc. to bring. It is a good idea I think.

And now that you mentioned HOT FUDGE SUNDAES...I am craving that!! LOL!! This cycle I seem to want chocolate more!!

Take care,

rmc

Hi Molly,

You asked if the Illiac crest area was where the waist is..yes that is where my ache is when I get it , just as yours is, near where the hip connects. Sometimes it radiates a bit lower. I have not had it much lately which is good. Like you said it sometimes feels "tight".

You asked what the elliptical machine is. It is one of the exercise machines at the gym, it is not a treadmill where it is flat, it is more like a stair master, but it is less abrasive on the joints than that. It has two wide pedals and you can increase or decrease the incline on it. The pedals go up and down on the incline. I am not describing it very well!! LOL!! I do that or the bike there and weights also. Need to do more of those!!

You said to Jenney that you were a real "drama queen" when it came to health things. I told her as you may have read that I have that title cornered!! You did so well with your attitude about the breast biopsy, etc. that really, you are not at all a drama queen , believe me!! As I told her I am anxious on and off about just going to get a cholesterol re-check tomorrow!! (getting the results , not the actual test) So I think the drama queen crown is mine!! Not proud of it either!!

Have a good evening.

Take care,

rmc

Hi there Jackie,

Good to see your post!!

Ironically while I write this I have the music channel on, on the tv and guess what is on ...KC and the Sunshine Band!! funny as you mentioned them recently!!

That is great that your tooth has not been bothering you!!

I didn't realize you had taken a blood test in March that said you were in meno. That has to be a wonderful feeling!!

Our cocker spaniel does what your dog does also, sitting here like glue next to me right here next to me in the livingroom!! He is so sweet!!

You mentioned the movie "come back to me". I think it is Return to me and I did not see it, I think Molly did. I have heard good things about it though. Speaking movies...I absolutely loved Dirty Dancing too!! Have both the soundtracks from the movie and enjoy them. I too love musicals, newer ones like Grease like you said (well it is not that new, but you know what I mean!! LOL!!) and then oldies too, like Sound of Music, Gigi and others. It is one of my favorite types of movies besides romantic comedies.

Hope you continue to feel pain free with your tooth and have a great day tomorrow.

Take care,

rmc

Hi everyone!

Looks like it's been quiet here today! Just got back from lunch and thought I'd pop in here. With all of you talking about food last night, I was starving today!!! My girlfriends from work and I go out to lunch every Wednesday (my special group I was telling you about). Today was Polly's turn to pick the place and we went to eat Mexican. It was delicious and I ate every bite on my plate, didn't leave a crumb, lol.

Hope everyone is having a good day today. I am still pain free so all the prayers that went out in my behalf sure did the trick! I can tell some of the swelling is going down too.

RMC, got your reply this morning. Sounds like you had a big, close family. I would love that. All of my cousins lived about an hour and a half away. The community where my parents were raised is still where most of my relatives live. They lived out in the country and were farmers. My mother's dad owned a sawmill and a country store. My dad's father was a Baptist preacher. We moved to Hernando, (all of this is in Mississippi) when I was three years old. I remember when my dad brought me my first dog. It was a surprise, it was a beautiful black cocker spaniel and he was in a burlap sack as a disguise. I named him "Pat" after Pat Boone, lol. All of my relatives in the country live close together in a community called Shady Grove. I remember as a kid there was so much fun stuff to do there, we would play outside for hours.

Amy - you've been quiet for a while, how are you?

Hellas - let us know about your doctor's appt.

Molly - how's the little brat behaving today? I laugh ever time I think about her. They are so funny, always entertaining - and yet want to be entertained. Mine is so spoiled that if hubby and I start talking about something, she starts her yapping where we can't even hear each other!

Jenney - did you enjoy your pizza and brownie? Hope it was good!

Well - gotta get back to work. Will check back later.

Hugs!

Jackie

Jackie and Gang:
I'm SO thrilled that you are better!!!Hallelujah! Guess what....we had Mexican food for lunch too. My son and his friend and I were just craving it, so we did what you did...ate every crumb! I've been kind of busy lately, worked all day yesterday, folks came for dinner last night and this morning had to take to of our cats to the vet. with horrible respiratory problems. They think it's just an infection and gave us Baytril to give them. It's SO fun to give cats pills!!! Ha-Ha!

Someone asked me how old my son is, he's 16, and just the best kid ever. Don't get me wrong he is DEFINITELY a teenager, but still a wonderful person. Also someone asked me about the acupuncture procedure... the way it's been done to me is....she has a small electronic machine with a wand like thing that she presses on different points in my body to read, that correspond with different functions in your body. She plugs all those readings into a computerized program that shows the areas that need to be treated and then puts the needles in me where I need to be treated. I suppose some acupunturists are very schooled and have lots of years of experience and may just automatically know where to put the needles, but whatever she does works. The needles are for the most part, painless. And she usually only uses about 10 needles on me. I have felt so much better after my last treatment and know now not to let myself go so long between appointments. Our insurance actually pays a portion of this, so it's about fifteen dollars per visit for me, which isn't too bad.

Well, I'll shut up for now...got to get laundry done and go get groceries!
Have a great day everyone!
Amy

Where's everyone been today? Very unusual for it to be so quiet here all day.

Hi Amy, so you had the Mexican cravings today too? The funny thing is that when I was growing up, my sister and I hated Mexican food and my parents took us to the Mexican restaurant all the time. We would get something American to eat. Now we both love it - weird huh?

Hellas - how did your appointment go today? What did your doctor say?

RMC, how did your appointment go today? I guess you probably didn't get the results of the test today most likely tho.

Molly, you've been really quiet today too! Hope you had a good day.

Hi Jenney, hope you've had a good one too.

Hope to hear from you all in a bit :)

Jackie

Hi Everyone,

Jackie : So glad to hear you are pain free today!! Great news!!

The Mexican food sounded good. Haven't had it in awhile. You said that when you were growing up you went for Mexican all the time, even though it was not your favorite. Well, believe it or not I did not have Mexican till I was probably 20!! Our city did not have any Mexican restaurants when I was growing up. Hard to believe that now as it is so routine in every city. I remember how excited we all were to have one!!

I enjoyed hearing about your family and your growing up. The fact that you named your cocker spaniel Pat after Pat Boone is so cute!! The community that your relatives live has a lovely name : Shady Grove!! Sounds very pretty!!

You asked how my appt went. It was just going to the lab and having blood drawn and I will not know the results till I get them either in the mail or they call, they have done both before. My gyn does all the bloodwork , cholesterol check, thyroid and a whole bloodwork panel as part of one's annual and I had that all done in Oct. So as I said this was just a routine re check of the cholesterol. I have read as I said that Peri raises levels and I think that is the case.

Amy : Hope your cats are doing well this evening and that the medication is helping.

That is great that you have such a wonderful relationship with your son. He sounds like a good kid.

Thanks for explaining the acupuncture. I have seen it done once when my cousin got it done for migraines and she asked me to go with her. The needles are so thin..just wisps of things and I was surprised at that. But I did not know about the electronic machine that reads different areas. That is really interesting how they focus in on what needs to be treated. My insurance pays for my chiropractor visits also with a 15 dollar copay that we have to pay. So it works out well. That is great that the acupuncture has helped so much.

Well hope you both are having a good evening and also hello to Molly, Hellas and Jenney...hope you all are having a good one too and all have a great day tomorrow.

Take care,

rmc

HI RMC, glad to hear from you. Wonder where Molly and Hellas are? Very unusual for them to be away for so long. Think Hellas killed her doctor - lol? (sorry Hellas, just had to make a joke about your rages)lol

You know, last night I was thinking back to visiting my relatives down in the country and they didn't have bathrooms for the longest! We had to go outsdie to an outhouse to use the bathroom and they took baths in a big metal washtub. My mother's parents had a bathroom, but they had money. Later on, the other's built on to their homes and added a bathroom. Wild to even think of this in our lifetime, isn't it? We always had a bathroom, so it was kind of an adventure to visit them out in the country! Hated those outhouseses tho - they stunk!!! :eek:

Molly - Hellas - Jenney where are you gals? We miss you!!

Molly, our little brat won't let my hubby sleep this morning. She kept sitting in front of the couch every time he dozed off, trying to wake him up. He called me and said - well guess I'll just get up and ride for a while, the brat won't let me sleep! lol

You ladies have a WONDERFUL day!!!

Jackie

Hey Jackie,
I'm here! It is so nice to know someone misses me! :D Didn't get a chance to post yesterday. Took my car in to get the A/C fixed. It's ONLY going to costs $800! Brrr! Well, instead of having someone follow me so I can just drop my car off, I drove and left the car there and walked home. Of course, Kiwi was w/ me - it was only a 1.8 mile walk. Instead of heading home, went straight and got my neighbor's big dog out for a 1.5 mile walk, then right after that went shopping w/ my friend to the office store, then hung out at her place for a while. By the time I got home, it was almost 6 pm which meant it was time for me to meet a bunch of the neighbors where we meet every evening to go for our little walk w/ our dogs. So, I did a decent amount of walkng yesteray but I still ended up worked out with my DVD too. Of course, this morning, I haven't lost a pound even (but didn't gain either)! :confused: Must have been that dang salmai sandwich LOL! By the way, what kind of workout do you do?

My goodness Jackie, where do your relatives live? I can't imagine not having a bathroom! I know in the old days they didn't, but do these not have them? I can't even stand those portable potty that they put out in the street for the pubic to use whenever there's an event. Talk about stink!! I would only use those if I absolutely can't hold and I'm desperate!

Well, I guess our little brats are pretty similar too! I think little dogs are such characters - one has to own one to really know! Let's face it, all dogs are like 3 yr old kids but they never grow up that's why they are our babies!

Hi RMC, How are you doing? Re your appt. - you survived right? I know it's waiting for the results that is making you a bit anxious, but just remember tho, even if your cholesterol is high, it can be fixed! I know w/peri it can cause your blood pressure to go high too, but try not to worry about it! I'm sure you will be fine!!

My BF had really high cholesterol once (300 or something like that) and now it's at 150-160. When he couldn't lower it on his own, they put him on Lipitor and it would always be around 185 or so. Then I turned him onto drinking that revival soy shake, it dropped to 150. Because he was still taking the full dose of Lipitor and his cholesterol was lowering by other means, it did something to his liver. They ended up monitoring him while he was taking the revival shakes and now I think he takes only 1/2 a Lipitor and his cholesterol is at 150-160 now. I don't know why he even have to keep taking it. He responded really well to the soy shake while w/another friend of mine, it didn't make any difference. With me, I've always had pretty good cholesterol - I think when I was in my late 30's, it was 110. In, fact, the dr. said it was one of the lowest he had ever seen. The highest it has ever been was 158, which was last year's reading - this was right after I went thru the bad peri ordeal. I think it runs in our family tho. Even my sister who is overweight has normal cholesterol reading.

Well, I hope you ladies have a good day!! Same goes with Jenney, Amy and Hellas! As with Mexican food - my least favorite - I do like them big burritos but that's about it. What are everyone's plans for the July 4th weekend?

molly :wave:

Hi Jackie,

Hope you are pain-free again today with your tooth. Did you ice it at all when it was swelling?

Yes it IS wild to think that there were outhouses as a routine for those in the country in our lifetime. I am with you with any form of outhouses!! I grew up in the city and am pretty much am a "city girl"...I appreciate nature of course and love to go to the beach especially and do like to go into the country...but I like getting back to the city after that!! LOL!! I do not like camping at all. The ocean is about 1 and a half hours from us and I would love to live near the ocean but it is too far from the city, that distance. So it is nice to be able to get to it when we want. Same with the mts., although I am much more an ocean lover.

Just thought I'd check in while I had a moment and say hi and answer your note which was good to see this morning!!

Take care,

rmc

Hi Molly,

AND CONGRATULATIONS!! If I remember correctly this time last year was your last period!! SO : it is a YEAR LATER!! And that is cause for celebration!! I know we are not supposed to talk about it for fear it might return but on the other hand at this point even if you got a stray one (which you won't!!) it would not be a big deal as you are well on your way and rid of it!!

That is great you do so much walking and the area you live in it is so pretty to walk I am sure. You must get a good work out too as it is hilly.

I so agree with you about dogs. They ARE like little kids, and such characters. Ours last night was throwing his favorite toy (it is called a Kong, where you put a treat in it, you may have heard of it) at our feet while we were doing something on the deck and he was insisiting we have his attention at all times and it was very funny!!,

Yes I survived the appt!! LOL!! The results as you said should not be a big deal. Lots of people have high cholesterol and I do know in peri it can elevate which I suspect is what is happening. But as you said it can be lowered and I did get it lower one time before so will do so again. My blood pressure, knock on wood has always been low, so that is not a problem. I know people like your boyfriend who have 300 as far as cholesterol and got it down and were not on meds and those that were. That is something that the soy shake helped!! Do you get those online or can you get them at the store?

You mentioned Mexican food, it is not my favorite , although I do like it. Once I have it though I do not crave it for quite some time.


Have a great day!!

Take care,

rmc

Hi Girls:
I am so envious reading all your posts about living by the ocean and all your fun plans for the 4th weekend! Kansas is SO boring and since my husband is getting his tooth removed tomorrow I don't think we'll be doing any "living it up" this weekend. We may go to my husband's brothers on Saturday or Sunday, or maybe to my families. Everything depends on how he does with the surgery. Oh well!

Glad that everyone seems to be doing well and lovin' life and their dogs. I LOVE the dog stories. There is a little beagle that has been following me home every night after my walk and I let him come in and he goes over and hops on the couch with my husband just like he's part of the family. He is very young and we aren't sure how much attention his owner's give him - which just makes me upset. I'd love to adopt him, and spoil him rotten.

Molly - Congratulations on the period free year!!!! You lucky, lucky girl!! Ahh...some sweet day......
Amy

Hi ladies :wave:

I am here. Just been kinda busy the past few days.I'm writing from work as school has now officially ended for the summer and I work alone now and being no one is here at the school I can do as I want now, ;)

Anyhow, we have a contractor coming Monday to replace our water heater/change the venting for the furnace and water heater and seeing my house only has a partial basement and we are pack rats it took lots of sweat to clear it out so the men can actually get down the stairs! We have so much junk going to the dump that I have to call the city for a "special" garbage pickup! Then I cleaned the furnace filter and the cooling fins in the central A/C unit and vacuumed the basement floor and you know how one thing leads to another. Then hubby wanted new hardware on the kitchen cupboard doors so we did that. And in between that I have been beading bracelets on the loom and then hubby calls me for lunch and then I have to shower and then go to work and before I know it, I haven't made it to the computer.

All is good with me and mine. Tomorrow is Canada Day here (stat holiday) and I am off so we will probably take in the big celebrations at the park. :jester: Fireworks in the evening which is NOT a good thing as my dogs go berserk!

Speaking of food I would have to say that if I only got rice or spaghetti to eat I would be one happy camper. I'm starting to lose my taste for meat but still have a taste for chocolate, who doesn't?

It has been so freakin hot here the last week. in the 90's and not a breath of fresh air and the night time only drops about 5 degrees. I feel like my shoes are melting every time I walk on concrete or pavement. My dogs hate the weather too. I don't like winter but 90` weather is a little ridiculous. Too hot to do anything outside. And although I live adjacent to the Grand River, the Grand River Conservation authority is getting concerned as we have not had enough rainfall in weeks and the river levels are dropping prematurely. They say the drop they are seeing is usually not seen till the end of July/Aug.

Nothing else really new right now. Everyone have a good weekend and don't celebrate too much.

Ta for now, Jenney

Hey Ladies - it's been busy on here, I see. I had a very hectic day at work and couldn't stop to check on you today. I am taking off work tomorrow, so I will have an extra long holiday weekend, yeah! :bouncing: I am ready for it! I think everyone in the country wanted golf shirts today, so I was pulling shirts and sending out orders all day. I'm kinda pooped!

Talk about hot - it was 100 degrees here today! :eek: Much too hot for my taste. I need to do my workout, but when it's this hot, even the inside of our house is kind of warm even with the AC running full blast. Molly - you got a good workout yesterday - I didn't get to at all last night. I forget why tho, lol. Yes, my heavens, we missed hearing from you!

RMC, your planned weekend sounds fun, especially going to the ocean on Saturday and riding around. I love the beach, but hubby doesn't. You've always got something fun planned it sounds like.

Amy, good to here from you. I hope your hubby's surgery is very minor and that he makes it just fine. I will be praying for him. Let us know how he does.

Jenney - you made me tired reading your post. Whew - you have been so busy!! I'm with you on the chocolate - I have to have some every day or I go into withdrawal.

Hellas - where are you??? We miss hearing from you.

All - the part about my relatives not having bathrooms was back when I was a small child. Probably about 40 some years ago. Still I am not sure why they didn't have them, but there were alot of people in the country where they live that didn't. I can remember not having air conditioning, and when we got our first window unit. That was a happy day for sure! I was a child then too, but I can remember us getting it.

We are going to my hubby's brother's house Saturday. He lives in a huge over 100 year old plantation house out in the country, about 20 minutes from here. His whole family will be there, and all their kids and grandkids, so there will be a ton of people. We are frying fish, having chicken - and everything to go with - and all kinds of good desserts. Not sure what we will do on the fourth, maybe just rest. I'm just looking forward to being off, and thankful that I feel good and can enjoy it!

Hugs to all,

Jackie

Hi Everyone...I'm Baaaaaaccccckkkkkk! Jackie, I had tears rolling down my face I was laughing so hard! I think that's the first time I've laughed in 4 days! No, I didn't kill the doctor. Everything went fine...of course there's that usual 3-4 week wait on pap results, but don't expect anything wrong. She said everything looked fine. She did give me some samples of an AD (Effexor XR???) But after reading the insert, I don't think I'll be trying it. Since my eyes are screwed up to begin with, any drug that lists side effects like, cataract, dry eye, blepheritis, and retinal hemmorhage is NOT going in this mouth!!! Maybe if I could find one that didn't have any effect on the eyes, I'd try it, but....from what I've read AD's can cause dry eye.
I actually tried getting in here last night, but kept getting booted out to an error message, so gave up. Don't know what that was all about (thought maybe I got banned like you know who!)
Thanks, Amy for the acupuncture description. I really may have to check into it. I think my insurance company covers some of it.
Hey RMC, seems like everyone where I work has high cholesterol. mostly men, though. Although one of the women just got put on a diet for hers, plus she found out she had underactive thyroid. One of the guys at work eats oatmeal everyday and takes about 4 fish oil capsules and it has really helped him. His was really high, so he's got the lipitor too. But the fish oil really lowered his triglycerides a lot, which the lipitor didn't even touch.
Sounds like everyone has a good weekend planned. I'm not doing much, probably hang out with the neighbors on the 4th and I just have to walk across the street to see our town's fireworks. From there, I can see our town's, Bostons, and another one south of Boston all at the same time! Pretty cool. Hope the mosquitos aren't out though. I can be surrounded by 50 people and I'll be the one to get bit!
Jenney, Hope all the pets are doing better.
Molly, wish I got as much excersize as you. I would think all the walking would help with the anxiety of peri/meno. and is just good for you anyway. Where do you get the energy?
And I'd recommend Return to Me with David Duchovny & Minnie Driver, too.
Just a really nice movie. I only watched it because of Duchovny, but it was just such a nice movie, I've seen it 2 or 3 times.
Well, I probably got everyone mixed up again. Sorry if I did, just really hard to keep it all straight.
Thanks again Jackie for the laugh. Greatly appreciated.
Have a good night
Hellas

Hi Hellas - good to hear from you and glad I could give you a good laugh! I'm still laughing about Molly's little brat jumping on her chest, giving her kisses and waking her up the other morning, lol. I can so relate to that. You don't know what you're missing without a little brat of your own :D

I wonder why your doc didn't suggest Lexapro? I looked up the side affect for the Effexor and the Lexapro, and Effexor has tons of side affects, I don't blame you, I wouldn't try it either! Lexapro has very low incidence of side affects, which was why my doc likes to prescribe it to his patients. I was super dry eyes and it hasn't affected that or my vision at all. It has worked very well for me- so well, so I don't even feel menopausal anymore. That's definitely a good thing!

Well, I've got to go tan before it gets to late, but I'll be back checking on everyone a little later!

Jackie

Hellas:
I'm glad you told about the guy at work taking the fish oil capsules. My husband has high triglycerides and now I know what I can give him. And since you've mentioned Return To Me, I'm probably going to have to watch it again pretty soon - I just love everything about that movie. And....you all have said the word chocolate enough that I'm going to have to dive into some right now!!!
More later,
Amy

PS - Hellas, I forgot to tell you. I read your post on the thread about Yeast Infections one night, and I decided to try your yogurt treat. I got some plain yogurt and some frozen mixed berries, some soy granola and mixed it together. Wow - it is good! I hope to keep from getting a yeast infection with this antibiotic and so far - so good :)

Amy, now I'm going to have to look for that movie. I honestly don't remember ever hearing of it! And as for CHOCOLATE.... I keep Hershey's kisses on hand always. Right now they have two great ones that have two layers. One is dark and milk chocolate, the other is white vanilla chocolate and milk choc. Both are yummy!! :)

STOP talking about chocolate! Or I'm going to have to go eat those choc bits I have in my cupboard that are like 1 1/2 yrs old and kind of white now!!! Cause I already ate all of the hot fudge sauce in the last 3 days!
Jackie I'll check the lexapro. But you know when she was asking if I'd rather try paxil or effexor I was sure (at that moment) you were on effexor! Duh!!! Brain fog again!
Sheez!
Hellas

ANYTHING with dark chocolate rings my bell!!!!!!
Amy

Girls, actually chocolate is good for you! Of course if you eat a pound of it, it isn't :D

Hellas, my doctor asked me if I wanted Paxil or Lexapro and I told him definitely not Paxil, as I've had several friends on that and they didn't like the way it affected them, so I didn't want to try it for sure. Molly takes it and it does work well for her though. We're all different, so what works well for one, may not work at all for someone else. I was just lucky that the first one I tried worked, with minimal side affects. Much better than being a raving lunatic :eek: :D haha

Amy, I bet you will have another dog soon. Even tho you have some cats, it's just not the same as a dog. I found out that one of my best friend's father raises Jack Russell terriers, Yorkies and West Highland Terriers, and sells them. Makes me want to go buy another Yorkie puppy. My hubby says when Ginger is gone, we're not getting another one, but I doubt either one of use could stand not having one. Just wouldn't be the same :nono:

Jackie:
Your'e right about having a dog. There is just something so special and fulfilling about them. And I'm sure we will get another dog too.

It's funny you mentioned how Paxil affects people differently... 4 days after starting it (which was 5 years ago) I ended up in the emergency room having the first and most horrific panic attack in my life. My heart rate was 170 and would not stop, my lips, arms and really most of my upper body had gone numb, but was tingling, I had this horrible metallic taste in my mouth and COULD NOT BREATHE! They told me to stop the Paxil, never take it again. This was the beginning of a downward spiral of doctors trying me on Celexa, Zoloft, Xanax and some other drugs that landed me in bed for 3 months and back and forth to the emergency room with more very severe panic attacks. Obviously, I just can't take SSRI's. But my Aunt, on the other hand started taking Paxil about 8 years ago, and it changed her whole life. She had true social anxiety disorder and was painfully shy, and now she is outgoing, loves life, and lives it to the full! So yes, we are all different.

And I promise I won't eat a pound of chocolate. My very favorite is the small Dove Dark Chocolates. And I don't know if you guys have Blue Bunny Ice Cream, but they have a flavor called Chocolate Bunny Tracks that will cure EVERYTHING...I promise!

Night all,
Amy

Hi Everyone,

Good to see everyone's posts!!

Oh, wanted to update you on my cholesterol readings. Got them today. I was encouraged!! Still on the high side she said, but came down 15 pts. as far as the total; LDLs (bad guy cholesterol) about 10 to 15 pts. lower , HDLs (good guy cholesterol)still a good reading, so the ratio is good. Triglycerides I didn't have a problem with, they were already as they should be, but now are even lower. When I found out it was elevated in Oct. I was a bit taken aback as I was really not eating differently from the last time it was taken. But my exercise had decreased due to an ankle injury. I have been back to my routine as of this winter and more so in the past few months. So I think that helped. Also I've been taking flaxseed, and although I do not take fish capsules as someone mentioned, we do eat a lot of salmon and other fish so get the fish oils from that, 2 or 3 times a week some times. We both love it so it is not a chore. Also have been taking more soy. So it all must have helped. I am hoping to lower it further when I go for my annual in Oct. At least it is headed in the right direction!!


Now to your posts :

Jackie : Lucky you that you have an extra day off tomorrow!! Have a good one!!

You all are getting much hotter weather than we are!! We have 70s right now. Mid 70s today and high 70s tomorrow.

You mentioned your workout...what type of exercise do you do? I was an avid Jazzercizer till I started having some ankle problems and now I cannot go as often. But I am working up to it. I am going to the gym my husband and I both belong to and do the elliptical machine or bike and weights. I also have pilates dvds I do at home and that is what I did today. It is a good workout. I did some weights today also.

Your Saturday at your brother-in-law's sounds like a lot of fun with everyone. Also the menu sounds delicious!!

Amy : Hope our husband's tooth removal goes well. I had two removed 2 years ago in preparation for getting invisalign braces. I was apprehensive, but all went well and it was painless before and after.

The little beagle sounds cute!! I am sure when you are ready you will get another dog. I know how you feel. We had our first cocker for 13 years and it was very heartbreaking to lose him. We did get another 3 months later and he is now 11 and I hate just the thought of losing him. He is a sweetheart and we love him dearly.

That had to be a frightening experience with the Paxil effects and the other meds too!! It is amazing how one thing can work for one person and for the other person it can be poison!!

I love Dove Chocolates too!! Also love Lindor chocolates, don't know if anyone has them in their area. They come in the shape of a ball and are wrapped in foil, different colors. They are small and come in different flavors...milk, dark, peanut butter, white, hazelnut etc. They are very smooth. I have never had Blue Bunny ice cream that you mentioned.

Jenney : WOW you have been a busy girl! And in between all you had to do you even were beading bracelets!! Sounds like you got A
LOT accomplished. We have a lot to do in between going to the ocean etc this weekend as we are getting ready for visitors at the end of July so want to do some things in and outside the house also.

Hellas : You mentioned some people at work that have high cholesterol. Yes I actually know quite a few people who have much higher readings and have got it down . It does tend to run in families. The gyn said that peri does have something to do with it as I am really not doing anything a lot different than I had been before it registered higher. I have been doing the oatmeal thing for breakfast you mentioned and I do like oatbran too.

That is great you can see so many fireworks so close to your house. I envy that as I love fireworks!!

Molly Hope you are having a good evening. Wanted to ask you about the Revival Soy. I went and looked at it on the Internet and when ordering the shakes it has different options for sweetner.. fructose, splenda and unsweetened. What do you get? There sure is a lot that they sell!!

Well, hope you all have a great day tomorrow!! Nice to come in here and see all of you.

Hugs all around,

rmc
PS I am sure I will be having some sort of chocolate this weekend after reading your posts!! LOL!! I do love it but I can have a bit and be satisfied and it is a great treat and as Jackie said good for you, especially the dark kind.

Happy Friday Everyone, Happy 4th of July, Happy Canada Day!
Yipee! 3 days off! That will everyone feel good! Enjoy it to the MAX!
I really do envy you all with the dogs and kitties. Unconditional love, soft & cuddly, come running when they see you. Nothing better than that. Amy, they sure do leave a dog shaped hole in your heart when they leave. Only one thing that can fill that hole. So when you're ready...
May be that's what's wrong with me...I always have that missing piece. Always loved animals more that anything. Just hard when you live in apartments. And I find it hard to trust anyone who hates animals.
Well gotta get ready for work. Just wanted to wish everyone a great weekend.
And keep your fingers away from all those fireworks! Don't want any accidents. Stay safe on the roads and enjoy.
Hellas

Happy Friday Everyone :wave:

I'm sitting here in my bathrobe, just took a shower and drinking my coffee. Thought I'd check in on my girls :) It sure was nice to sleep until 8:00 this morning. Of course I woke up at 5:00, my usual time to get up, but I just rolled over with Ginger snuggled up to me and we snoozed for a couple more hours. She loves to cuddle up right next to me. Most of the night she sleeps under the bed, but always when I wake up, she's in the bed with me. We have this routine every night. I say, come on let's go to bed, and she runs and hides behind the couch. I will go to bed, and then when SHE gets ready to come to bed, she rears up and scratches on the door until she gets it open and comes to bed. Weird huh? She's miss independent - it's got to be on HER terms, lol

Amy - gosh, I remember you telling us about your experience with Paxil - wow, I am thankful that my first try worked out so well for me. But, I had prayed very hard about it, and so had my bible study group, so I went into it feeling confident that the doctor was putting me on the right thing for me - and he did! God is so good, isn't he! I hope your hubby's tooth removal goes well. I just said a prayer for him. You know what, I was thinking last night that I bet you loved the Dove chocolates since you like dark chocolate! I tend to like milk chocolate more myself, but I know the dark is what's good for you. Oh well, I don't eat much of it, usually one or two kisses a day - so I can pretend it's good for me - right? Oh, I do drink chocolate Slim Fast too - so that's more.... :)

Hellas - it's a shame you can't have a pet. You are right, that's the missing piece in your life. They love you unconditionally and so nice to come home to because they are SOOO excited to see you! I hope you have a good day, and don't worry about me and the fireworks, I'm scared of those - always have been. Even sparklers, lol. They will be shooting them on my street tho, and poor Ginger will go nuts. They scare her to death, as bad as storms. She goes wild when it's storming. We tried giving her Xanax, but it didn't even phase her! lol It would have knocked me out!

Rmc, I take Flaxseed also. I hate the taste of it, (yuck!) but the liquid gives you so much more than the capsules. I have read that it is so good for so many things, that I will probably take it forever. I actually started taking it for the dry eyes. They told me to do that before I had my lasik surgery. In taking it, I found that it made my face less oily, and smoother. Plus it is supposed to lower bp, colesterol, help with Arthritis - etc. I still take the Evening Primrose with it too. I tried the Fish Oil for a while, but just couldn't tolerate it. I would burp that nasty tasting stuff up for hours and even with the enteric coated one!

You asked about my workout routine. Well - I do Tae Bo at home (without the tape). I have been doing it for five years now. It's a total body workout and actually shaved inches off my hips and thighs which no other exercise had ever done for me. I just took moves from all his tapes that worked out what I needed and rolled them into one routine. I have added another 30 minutes of lunges and leg lifts, etc with ankle weights and hand weights too. IF I was as dedicated at Molly, I WOULD look like "Athletic Barbie" lol As we all know, as we get to this stage in our lives, our skin starts losing it's elasticity and starts to sag and our lower arms wave at ya! I also have lots of lose skin on my thighs because they used to be so much bigger. If I could just have a Leg Lift like they do face lifts - hey, I'd be ok!! lol

You mentioned the Lindor chocolates. We do have them here, and they are very good. I usually buy the truffles at Valentines Day for a girlfriend of mine because she loves truffles so much. Enjoy your day at the ocean tomorrow - I wish I could go too :bouncing: That would be a real treat for me! We have an ocean in lower Mississippi but haven't been there in years, actually since I was a teenager. There had been a hurricane before that and it was pretty much still a mess. I have an aunt that lived in Gulf Shores, AL, but I have never been there to see her. And - hey - I would trade our hot weather for yours any day!!

Molly - how are you doing today? Behaving yourself? Let us hear from you today. Hope you have a good one!

Jenney - Let us hear from you too. Good luck on having all the things fixed at your house. That is always stressful to me. Hey, I remember you mentioning in one post that your face had cleared up. Did yours start breaking out when you hit Peri? I had a really bad bout with it around Feb-April this year. It was horrible!!! Right this minute I am totally clear, but never know when another breakout is around the corner :D

Hope Everyone Has a Happy Friday!!

Toodles!

Jackie B

Hey ladies, TGIF!!
Well, got on this morning and saw all these posts from you guys! Wow! How do you expect me to catch up?!?! :eek:

RMC, I do get the revival soy online. That's really the only place you can. I get the strawberry flavor, unsweeten usually. I usually add ice cubes, a little water, a banana or some strawberries into the blender. If it isn't sweet enough, I add Splenda. I also order the variety pack just so I have a other flavors too. When you place your first order, they do send you a complimentary pack that incls. a variety of the shakes, bars, small packs of the nuts, pasta, and chips. It can get expensive but 1 serving of this soy shake is equiv. to 6 glasses of soy milk. Often we don't eat/drink as much soy as we think. The choc soy nuts are really good to snack on - too bad it's about $15/lb! Let me know what you think if you try it.

Hi Amy, Hope your hubby's tooth ordeal went fine. Did you go w/him? I don't know how he is, but it sure seems that men have a really hard time when it comes to pain, moreso than women. I know of guys who are in total agony after having one tooth taken out, having to be babied and take off work for an entire week even! Now, Jackie, I know you're not going to be that way - you will probably be surprised how simple your tooth situation will be - don't underestimate yourself! Anyway, Amy, I'm glad I live near an ocean for me, I can't stand the hot weather. I could imagine it being really hot in Kansas - I don't know how you can function! Also, that Beagle is obviously being neglected and that's why he's following you and going home with you! Is it normal for dogs to roam around by themselves and go into people's houses? Some people shouldn't have dogs! Really burns me up sometimes! I could tell you stories about some of the dogs that my neighbors have adopted that were so badly abused that it makes you really realize how bad people can be!

Jenney - you could just eat rice and spaghetti all the time? Plain or what? I prefer spaghetti over rice! Yeah, pasta is really hard to give up and I could eat a ton of it if I really wanted to! I love chocolate too - can't eat a lot of it (allergic to dairy) but do like peanut butter cups, hershey bars! So, it's hot over in Canada too, huh? It is foggy this morning here in SF and will be about 68 degrees! Love the mornings when the air is really cool and fresh - hate it when it's hot! I'm dreading the upcoming months b/c I know it will get hot here and I'll get headaches and a bit cranky! LOL! Lots of people who live in SF have moved to Canada - think the housing here has been so expensive and people aren't getting their money's worth plus people can't afford their health plans anymore too! Bet you seen a big evasion of Americans lately?

Hey Hellas, I didn't know ADs causes dry eyes. you have eye issues other than the fact that you probably can't read small prints like before? You're right tho - ADs affect each person differently. I know of people who stopped taking Paxil cold turkey and they are fine. Sometimes I wonder if I'll be worse off when/if I started weaning off of Paxil. I hate to think it's the Paxil that causing me to feel as good and have the energy as I have been having. Do keep in mind tho - all meds have side effects! Those inserts they come w/your prescription would scare anyone from taking anything - but it also doesn't mean you will get every or any of them!

As with my exercising - once you start, you do get hooked. Plus, keep in mind, I have always been bit of a tomboy. You asked where I get all this energy - I don't know. Like I said sometimes I think it's the Paxil but then I've always been like this. I'm kinda like a ping-pong ball - always moving around, can't sit still thru a movie even, always have to be multi-tasking. I also think it's b/c the guys I work for are such procastinators that everything and anything I do on my job is always a rush - so I'm always hyped up! What's weird is most people say I'm hyper and it's hard to believe I'm suppose to be hypothyroid which means slow, decreased energy, fatigue, etc. - symptoms that I never had even when I was diagnosed!

Hi Jackie - speaking of my brat jumping on my chest - can you believe that I even thought it was b/c of that that I had the breast issue? I read that the califications I had can be a result from some kind of injury too - well, remember, these little dogs aren't all that lightweight and when they jump on your boob - it really hurts not to mention it startles you like heck! Also, Kiwi is the third little dog I have - I had two others that did the same thing years ago! I'm sure you know what it feels like when they jump on you!! LOL!

Yes, eating yogurt prevents yeast infection and in case you didn't know it, drinking cranberry juice prevents bladder infections! Knock on wood - I don't ever have these infections. Also, make sure you drink lots of water regularly!

Well, last night went over to my friend's for dinner. They just had a baby so we just did takeout. I was good last night - had king salmon and a caesar salad only.... make up for the salami sandwich I had the other day.
Well, ladies, can't believe it is already July! Pretty soon, it will be another new year! All that fuss when it was the year of the millennium and now we're 5 yrs into it! Well, hope all of you have a safe July 4. I'm not doing anything special. Just hanging out at home. Probably doing exciting stuff like cleaning, mopping, and vacuuming! Anyone wanna help?

Have a good day everyone!
molly

Happy 4th and Canada Day also:
OK, I want to see if I've got everyone straight - at least as far as where we live...
Jackie-Tennesee, Jenney-Canada, Hellas-California, rmc-Oregon, Molly-New York. I may have rmc and Molly turned around. I am trying SO hard to remember all this info. but my brain is just mush. Please correct me if I'm wrong. I'm trying to remember people by where they live, dog, no dog, etc.

My husband's tooth surgery went well, his tooth was actually completely cracked in half! Boy, do those molars have roots on them! He's home and just took a pain pill, so he'll be pretty relaxed this afternoon. I woke up during the night having a horrible panic attack. It's just about the time in my cycle where I ovulate, so am assuming that's the culprit, plus I may have been more anxious about my husband's tooth pulling than I thought.

rmc: I also take Revival Soy products. I have one of their chocolate-peanut butter soy bars every day. I didn't care for their shakes. The soy bars tend to make you a little gassy though at first. I've been using them for about a year and a half now and they do seem to help with the hot flashes, and other symptoms. I use their fructose sweetened products (which is natural sugar). My digestive system hated the other sweeteners, and I am very leary of Splenda, and aspartame in anything. I haven't had any blood work done to see about it affecting cholesterol, but I've been very blessed in that area - good numbers when it was checked. Also, you mentioned the Lindor chocolates - are they the ones shaped like an orange, in slices, and they have them in orange chocolate, or rasberry chocolate? If so, those are awesome!

Everyone have a fabulous day. They are having our fireworks display here at our lake tonight, so I think we are going to go out on our neighbors boat and watch them. The weather is supposed to be beautiful, so hopefully I can get my nerves under control and enjoy myself!!
Amy

Hi Molly and Amy,

Amy, so glad your hubby's surgery went well. Hopefully he won't develop a dry socket, and he will be ok. I have heard those are terribly painful. I got a good laugh out of your trying to remember where everyone lives and their dogs, lol. I thought I was bad, but looks my mind isn't as far gone as I thought, hee hee.

Ok - I live in Mississippi - just outside of Tennesse, I do work in Memphis though. Hellas is in Boston, MA, RMC - Oregon, Molly - California - and Jenney in Canada. As far as dogs (children) mine is Ginger, Molly's is Kiwi, don't know what RMC's dog's name is, or RMC's real first name either, but Jenney's dog is Reba.

Hey Molly! Yes I do know what it feels like to have those critters jump on you like that! I was laying on the couch one day and Ginger jumped on my stomach and I thought I would die!!

Oops, guess I had better run, I'm going with hubby to see his pain specialist and he's ready to go. Talk to you later! Have a good one :)

JB

Thank You Jackie!
I swear sometimes I have the mind of a really far gone 90 year old! I'm going to have to reread your post several times just to get everyone straight!! Hope you husband has some luck with the pain specialist!!! Mine is passed out in bed from his post-dental surgery and pain meds. I hope he doesn't get dry socket either - sounds horrible!! Thanks so much for the prayer - it really did help, because the tooth came out no problem!
Amy

Hi Amy,
Don't worry about your mind and not remembering every detail about us! Trust me, you are not alone! Have to admit, I just started jotting some notes on each of you in my little notebook....gotta keep you guys straight! You being a Virgo might not know this but me being an Aries must be organized! Anyway, so glad yoru hubby did fine at the dentist. He will probably be up and running by tomorrow. Did he get to keep the tooth as a sourveir? My dentist wanted to give me mine but I told him yucks and that I didnt' want it! LOL!

How did you find out about revival soy? I found out about it on another menopause board. The bars are good too - I also like the choc-peanut butter one - like to heat it up for a 1/2 min. or so in the microwave - then it kinda taste like Rice Krispy's crunch! I pretty much eat and like everything and anything when it comes to food - the only foods I don't like are lima beans, beef tongue and goat cheese.

Hey Jackie, While you were sitting there in your bathrobe, I probably was also sitting here in my bathrobe when I made my last post. Do you have fuzzy slippers, pink curlers? LOL! This is insane! We are coming to the board first thing in the morning to check up on the girls before showering even! Now that's true loyal and dedication!

I know there's going to be fireworks tonight...I live about 3 doors from this open space and is very hilly, very unkept, lots of weeds, dog poop, etc. (equiv. to about 3 blocks long/4 blocks wide) and we could see the entire SF city from there. Lots of the neighbors will go up there and have their dogs, midnight picnic and watch the fireworks. I will be home, watching or flicking the TV, maybe I'll work on my scrapbook project. Kiwi doesn't get phased by anything - she's a pretty mellow dog. Have you ever joined those yorkie e-mail lists? I remember when I was on one of them, I think many of those people didn't believe how she was, how she got along with big dogs, but then she isn't like a lot of little dogs and I exposed her to a lot by taking her everywhere. She isn't scared of the fireworks nor noises like the garbage trucks. She doesn't like skateboards and the meter maid! She barks at them like she's going to attack them! I don't like firecrackers! When we have the Chinese New Year parade here, people are throwing those things into the crowds! Hate 'em!

Now, where is that RMC - did she go to the beach already? She did not check in with us!!

By the way, ladies, do any of you watch Desperate Housewives??

molly :wave:

Molly:
He brought his tooth home and it was cracked completely in half length-wise. Boy that was a big tooth!

I found out about Revival Soy from a friend of my mother's. She had seen a show on the 700 Club with the doctor who started the company and she was having lots of peri. problems and gave it a try and it worked miracles for her, so one day my mom was talking to her telling her I was having all these problems, so she called and told me to give it a try. I've never nuked the bars in the micro., and I think I might give that a try today - sounds pretty good!

I don't watch Desperate Housewives because it conflicts with my Sunday night shows, which is all the stuff on FOX, like King of the Hill, Simpsons, Malcom in the Middle, etc. I really have to try to watch light, funny stuff or I find myself on spiraling into a very depressed state. But I may try to catch the Desp. Housewives reruns this summer so I can catch up.

Enjoy your evening with Kiwi. She sounds wonderful!!
Amy

Hi Everyone and a Happy Fourth of July Weekend AND Canada Day!!
First of all I think it was Jackie..who had been trying to clarify to Amy where we all lived and I noticed that you said, Jackie, that you guys didn't know my real name or my dog's name which is true and I have been remiss and I hope not rude in that.....SO….Everyone…..(drum roll!! LOL!!)

The r in rmc is for roxanne. And our dog's name is Steve!!
Everyone always asks why we named him that!! LOL!! We are both avid Bogart fans and our first dog was named after Bogart. So when we got another we wanted to keep it related to that. And in my husband's favorite Bogart film, To Have and Have Not which is with Lauren Bacall, she keeps calling Bogie, Steve. The character's name is not Steve , but she keeps calling him that. You may remember the line from the movie "You know how to whistle don't you Steve?"...and so forth. Well that is how we named him and the name suits him, he looks like a Steve!! LOL!! He is as we speak getting groomed and he will be prancing around the house after that!! We put a little red/white and blue bandana on him this morning so he looked very festive, although not happy as they tell us not to feed him before grooming and so he did not have his breakfast this a.m. and was not a happy camper!!

So now to your posts that I am looking at on lunchbreak (we are not going to the ocean till tomorrow a.m. and will be back at night)


Hi Molly : Thanks about the info on the revival soy. That sounds like a good deal for the first order since you get samples of some of their items.

Regarding the food discussion...I love pasta also and you named one of my favorite chocolates also : peanut butter cups!! Love anything peanut butter actually. You said you were allergic to dairy. When I was small I was allergic to chocolate for a time. So all my Easter bunnies were pink and green, white, etc!! I outgrew it and do not have a problem now.

I have to say the heat here is not that bad compared to back East. We just do not have the humidity so when it is in the upper 80s and 90s it is not stifling at all. People here though think it is as they have not experience real humidity. We went to Florida in May last year and although we both love the heat, we hadn't realized how we had really had forgotten how humid it can get back there and we are not used to that anymore.

I think it is true that once one starts exercising they get hooked. I am back into a routine now and really do like it. You would have been proud of me yesterday as I also did weights which I need to do more of.

How old is little Kiwi by the way? She sounds darling!!

You had almost the same dinner we had last night!! We had our dinner on the deck and had Grilled King Salmon, a salad (arugula and romaine with cherry tomatoes) and grilled Walla Walla Onions which are in season here now and so sweet.

Speaking foods...I have never had beef tongue but... YUCK!! I can't imagine that anyone would like it!! LOL!! I do like lima beans and goat cheese though. The only things I really do not like of things I have had are : liver, pineapple, watermelon and cherries. I don't mind pineapple and cherries in things but just not biting into them fresh and I do like things flavored with them. Watermelon I do not like at all which I know makes me rare. I like most things though.

Our dog is not fazed by fireworks either. Now he has a bit of a hearing problem so he does not hear them as much I think.

As for Desperate Housewives...have watched it a couple times but couldn't get into it. From all the people I know that like it I guess I should give it another try I suppose. I used to love on Sundays : American Dreams. Did anyone else watch that? It was in its 3rd season and it has been cancelled much to my dismay!!

It sounds like the fireworks are so close to you that even if you do not go outside to see them you might from your window.


Hi Jackie : I smiled at your "Toodles" at the end of your post!! That is definitely a Gidget saying...from the series with Sally Fields!!

Hope you are having a great day off!! That must have been nice to just roll over and stay in bed a bit this morning and not have to get ready for work. Your Ginger sounds so cute and cuddly!! Our dog is also a cuddler but also on his own terms so it is funny you said that about Ginger too.

You mentioned the Flaxseed. I take the ground kind not the liquid. I actually like the taste of the ground. I put it on my cereal or just have a spoonful of it. it is a nutty taste.

That is great you do Tae Bo!! Everyone seems to find something they like and that is the key. For me it has always been dance related like Jazzercize and Pilates reminds me a bit of Ballet in its movements. The gym was more of a chore for me at first but now I really do feel that the elliptical is something that is good for me to incorporate and the bike too, calorie burning wise. I have to as I said to Molly be more consistent about the weights.

Sounds like you love the ocean too. I grew up near Lake Ontario so have always enjoyed being near water and like the lakes more than the rivers but the ocean is my favorite.

BOY I am glad you clarified things for Amy as I thought you lived in Memphis!! My geography is lacking : I did not realize Mississippi was so close to Tennesee!! LOL!! The people we are getting together with on Monday, she is from Tennesee, I should ask her where abouts. So I take it it is an easy drive to Memphis from where you are since you work in Memphis.

Hi Hellas : Enjoy those fireworks from all directions!! I imagine MA. really knows how to do them up right , especialy Boston!! So much history in your neck of the woods and I love that about it.

Hi Amy : I can relate to keeping everyone straight!! I got Hellas and Jenney's location confused at first. So don't feel bad!! LOL!! I always try to associate words to things I can't keep straight. So to remember where you are, I think of you and Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz!! LOL!! for where Jackie lives.. Jackie and Elvis (although I just realized she lives in Mississippi not Memphis so that won't work!! LOL!!) for Jenney...I think of our friends as they have relatives in Canada. Where Molly lives I remember easily as we have been there so often and now that I have where Hellas lives straight I remember that easily as we have been to that area many times also.

Glad your husband's tooth surgery went well. Hope the pain meds have kicked in and he is doing fine.

You mentioned it's just about ovulation time for you and that is where I am too if I am indeed ovulating. I have felt more anxious this week on and off and today have had more runs to the bathroom. Seems my stomach acts up more for a few days when I am at this point of my cycle.

Funny you mention the gas and the revival soy. I think when I take too much soy I have that problem. So I do have to be careful about that as I hate that feeling. Have had a lot of that in this peri time , more so earlier last year and earlier this year. Seems to be better now thankfully.

You mentioned the chocolates that are shaped like oranges and in slices...I know exactly what you mean and the raspberry ones are especially good. The Lindor balls are different. They are very small, like way smaller than the palm of your hand.

Enjoy your fireworks on the lake..sounds very lovely!! We are going out on a boat on Mon and I am already anxious about that. I am always worried of being seasick and it is ridiculous as we will most likely not be "out" on it for long. I have not actually ever got sick, just felt a bit queasy years ago and then after that have been fine when we have been on boats. But of course I dwell on the one time!! LOL!! We have not been on one in a few years so perhaps that is it. It is a sailboat and pretty big so I don't think I will have a problem.

Hi Jenney : Hope you relax a bit this weekend in between things that you are doing. You should treat yourself after getting so much done. Have a great Canada Day!!

Have a wonderful Friday, everyone!!


Take care,

rmc

Hi there ladies - you've been busy since we left this morning!

Ok - Amy, I don't have trouble remembering about us here - just what everyone posted that I need to reply to!! ha ha. Glad your hubby is doing good and that my prayer helped. I'll be calling on you for prayers again soon when I start my root canal. :eek: I am not nervous about going to the gyn (like some scaredy cats here) :D But - definitely scared when they start messing with my mouth!! My hubby's appointment was just a routine check where you have to go spend five minutes with the pain specialist and they give you your prescriptions. He's on Morphine patches and they work pretty well, they deliver a continuous release of pain meds into your system.

Molly, I don't have pink curlers or fuzzy slippers, lol. But I did have on my pink rock candy flip flops. I color coordinate my flipflops even with my lounge wear (think that's part of Aries too?) I am so meticulous with my clothing, hair, jewlery, etc - it's almost an obsession, ha. If only that would carry over to my exercise!!! I have not been on the Yorkie email lists because I actually had never heard of those. You're fortunate that Kiwi is not scared of fireworks or storms. Ginger goes absolutely bonkers! :eek: Freaking out, but now we have found that if we put towels down in the bathtub, she will get in there and be somewhat calm. Before, it was like she was out of her mind, clawing and trying to get up under all kinds of stuff. She still likes to crawl up under my recliner so we have to put something behind it to keep her from getting under there. One night she did that, got stuck in one of the boards and I didn't think we'd be able to get her out! Scared me to death.

I started out watching Desparate Housewives, but Carnival started back up on HBO at the same time, so we watched that and now I've lost track of what's going on there. Please let me know when it starts reruns again so I can watch it. I wanted to find out what all the mystery was about the woman that killed herself and what happened at her house. Seemed really strange and I didn't get to find out what was going on there with family.

Roxanne (I thought maybe Ramona or Rachael), nice to know your name and what to call you now! I have to admit that Steve is an usual name for a dog - but so was Pat, lol I meant to tell you that when our Yorkie Poo died, it was only three months till we got another one too. That's about as long as we could stand it. Our house felt so empty. I'm with you on the tongue - never tried it - never will - yucky poo! But - I'm with you guys about the chocolate peanut butter. And anything peanut butter! I buy crunchy peanut butter and sometimes I just eat a spoonful as a snack. As far as my very favorite chocolate peanut butter snack - have any of you tried Russell Stover's holiday chocolate peanut butter hearts, Easter Rabbits, or Santas? They only put them out for special occassions. They are the best!

Well, we went to the pain clinic and then went to Perkins restaurant and had a late breakfast. They have the best all day breakfast. I have a cheese/mushroom omelet and country fried potatoes. Those are SOOO awesome. All you potato lovers would go nuts over them. They are crispy and seasoned really well.

Yes, I can see why you guys thought I lived in Memphis, but I usually say in my posts - Its so and so degrees in Memphis, but I'm usually posting that from work. Memphis is only about 10 minutes from where I live - so yes, we are just on the outside of Tenn. I would be interested to find out what part of Tenn your friend is from, Roxanne.

I forgot to tell you all about my Ginger's "Elvis" grin. She has this funny grin where one side of her mouth goes up and it shows more of her teeth on that side. It's so funny. I've never seen a dog to this before.

Well - better get off and I will check with you all later on!

Oh - Molly - I usually get to work early every day and I read your posts and reply before I start to work, so I do start my day off with you ladies! Don't know what I'd do without you!

And Roxanne, one of my friends from girlhood used to call me Gidget! lol

Sooo..... toodles everyone!

JB

Roxanne, huh? A very nice but not very common name! Ok, Steve, it is... I think it kind of funny (a good funny) when people name their dogs with people names! I have friends who named their dogs Michael, George, Norman, Terry, Henry. I like to name my dogs after things or food. My future dogs will have names like Pumpkin, Noodles, Crackers, Pickle, Peanut. You guys must think I'm really into food! LOL! Oh, Kiwi is 11 - she turns 12 :eek: in October. I remember when she was just a little pupkin! :eek:

I really try to be consistent w/my workout b/c it is really easy for me to lack off. I don't do well in gyms and those machines. I need to be in a class or follow someone; otherwise, I get lazy and don't put that much effort into the workout. I guess everyone has to found what works. I tried Tae Bo before too - but I couldn't follow right away (a bit uncoordinated, I guess). Ended up giving my tapes away. I know the Tae Bo tapes can give you really good results!

You never had tongue? Don't! It didn't really taste bad - I couldn't eat it after I really took a good look at it! Yucks! LOL! Oh, I also don't like hot dogs anymore either. It makes me gag. I prefer hamburgers!! You don't like pineapple, cherries, watermelon??? Wow! Toss 'em this way! Those are my favorites! I don't eat that many fruits but when those fruits are in season, that when my fruit consumption definitely increases!

I can't believe you and so far Amy don't watch Desperate Housewives! I think it's a really good show. It's funny, and suspenseful...I know, I know..the women looks too good ! It does come on at a time when I sometimes forget and there are other shows sometimes to watch. I never watched American Dreams but saw parts of it and it looked good. I'm one of those that have to start at the beginning so I can know what's going on.

Amy, did your hubby get a visit from the tooth fairy? Oh, I love Malcolm in the Middle too! King of the Hill is actually really good too - just not consistent about watching it.

And, Jackie, I thought you lived in Memphis too! Now my notebook is all messed up! Hey, you Aries ladies - tell me, when you went to school did you copy your notes over to make it neater? I did!

hugs,
molly

Molly - here we go again, posting at the same time, lol

Oh yeah, Roxanne, we did watch American Dreams for a while and I wondered what happened to it! It was a good show.

Molly, I don't remember redoing my notes from school. I have never been orderly like that, wish I was! If you saw my desk at work, you'd know I don't have order! I'm surprised my boss doesn't fuss at me sometimes because I will be working on so many things at one time - I have layers of papers everywhere! Disorganized is more "me" unfortunately!

Roxanne:
What a pretty name! Boy, you nailed it when you said stomach upset and more trips to the bathroom during the ovulating part! Plus the anxiety rising...it's all just fun and games for all of us!

Jenney:
You have made me feel terribly guilty with all your house cleaning, and was wondering what Canada Day was a celebration of. Is it like our July 4th? Love to learn about all this stuff.
Amy

Hi Everyone!!

Just thought I'd check in tonight and say hi!! See that you have been busy!! Always enjoy reading your posts!!

Molly : Yes, my name is not that common that is true. I have always liked that about it. I was named for the play "Cyrano de Bergerac" where the heroine is Roxanne. They made a movie out of it with Darrel Hannah , although there was an older movie too like from the 50s. As for naming dogs after people, I too get a kick out of it. We actually have many friends who named their dogs people names like Quincy and Jake and Hollee and Max. I think we only know one non person name!! LOL!! and that is Sassy!! LOL!!That is cute that you like to name your dogs after things or food!! We used to have a neighbor whose dog was called Noodles !! Kiwi by the way is the same age as Steve.

I know what you mean about the gym. I have always been a class type person as far as exercise, which is one of the reason's I enjoy Jazzercize. But when I had to curtail that a bit due to my ankle situation I got used to going to the gym more , although I still want to return to Jazzercize.

You said you do not eat a lot of fruit and I am the same way, I eat veggies more than fruit as there are just more veggies I like. But this is the season for me where fruit is concerned as I love berries : blueberries, raspberries, blackberries, etc. and also nectarines and plums. I am not a big citrus fruit fan.

I know it is rare that I do not watch Desperate Housewives as it seems everyone I know does. You said : " I know, I know..the women look too good" !! LOL!! No it's not that as one of my favorite shows was Sex and the City on HBO!! LOL!! and they were all great looking. We have several of the seasons of that show actually. I am not big on dark comedy so maybe that is it with Desperate Housewives as it seemed like that. I didn't really like the characters much, except the Teri Hatcher character and also the younger woman. as I said perhaps I did not give it a good chance. I too have to watch something from the beginning to like it and the 2 we saw were not from the beginning.

I have not seen Malcom in the Middle but have heard it is good. Must be on when we are watching other things. My current favorites as far as what is on now, are Will and Grace, West Wing, Las Vegas. On HBO I really like Curb your Enthusiasm and also the Sopranos but they are not on right now. Of course I love watching Friends, used to like Frasier and as I said my favorite drama was American Dreams but it was cancelled this year. I do have the first season on Dvd. Did any of you watch thirtysomething when it was on years ago? I really loved that show too.

As far as taking notes ......I was a avid note taker and yes I did copy them over to make them neater!! LOL!! However, I would not consider myself real orderly or organized in all things. Like my desk at the moment needs serious attention!! But in some things I am very ordered, others not too much!! LOL!!

Jackie : I think it is great that you are not nervous about Paps!! I wish I was like that. Come to think of it I am nervous about a lot of procedures that you have to go to the doctors for but not as much nervous about the dentist for some reason anymore. But I can understand as I am like that with other things.

I hope the Morphine patches help your husband ..has he used them before?

You sound so much like me with how you are with your clothes, shoes, hair and jewelery and makeup..and my nails too!! Right now my fingernails do not have nail polish on them and it is like I feel I am naked!! LOL!!

You mentioned Carnivale. I could not get into that or Six Ft. Under on HBO. We have friends who really love both though. On HBO as I said we both enjoy the Sopranos and Curb your Enthusiasm.

I have not had the Russell Stover Peanut Butter Hearts...they sound great !!

You mentioned Perkins and I had not heard that name in awhile. We do not have any here but where I grew up they had a lot of them and still do and I do recall those country potatoes that came with breakfast!! Very yummy!!

Ginger's Elvis grin sounds so cute LOL!! We have friends who have dalmatians and they smile!! I am not kidding!! LOL!! It is adorable!!

Amy Thanks for telling me your stomach gets more touchy during ovulation time. It is always good to know that one is not alone in what they are feeling. Has not been bad really like it was last year or earlier this year so I am happy about that!! And yes that anxiety..I can relate totally!!



We are off pretty early tomorrow to the ocean but I will peek back in on you guys later tomorrow night. In the meantime, have a great Saturday!!

Hugs to everyone,

rmc aka roxanne

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