I read somewhere on this Board that certain doctor[s] are removing fat from the face for a sculpted look during a facelift. My plastic surgeon [one of the best] says never, never, remove fat from a person's face [obviously he's not talking about under chin]. As we get older the cheeks get sunken without that fat [especially slim/medium built women over 50]. Ladies, we need the fat in our faces; it should not be liposuctioned out of our cheeks; too many problems later. I just wanted to post this [my doctor's opinion and he did a great job on me]because I think it's important.
Joy

Joy - VERY good post. Thank you. My own PS is against this, as well.

Joy, who is your doctor. I want one that thinks that way. I have heard over and over in the past years, ever since this idea of removing fat from cheeks, that it is not a good idea. I hear it is better to have it and that it can be repositioned at a higher part on the face which looks nicer.

My PS is Dr. Eugene Strasser Coral Springs, Florida [near Ft. Lauderdale/Pompano]. He would never take fat from anybody's cheeks. That's a no-no.
Joy


Originally posted by icon:
Joy, who is your doctor. I want one that thinks that way. I have heard over and over in the past years, ever since this idea of removing fat from cheeks, that it is not a good idea. I hear it is better to have it and that it can be repositioned at a higher part on the face which looks nicer.

I know some people recommend against having facial fact removed at all. But surely this depends on how much fat you had in your face to begin with?

Although facial fat reduces with age, some people will always have too much - so some removal of facial fat would be acceptable.

Many credible Drs perform this procedure, so I don't believe it is never justified.

Prople don't get facelifts when they're young and 'plumped' cheeked. They are usually 40-60 years old, and trust me, they need the fat in their faces for a 'youthful' look. You can be heavy with hollow cheeks when you age if you have that procedure done; it's a sickly look. [I don't mean fat under face under chin, of course]. There might be a rare exception but generally, it's a no-no [according to my PS]
Joy

Originally posted by johnboy:
I know some people recommend against having facial fact removed at all. But surely this depends on how much fat you had in your face to begin with?

Although facial fat reduces with age, some people will always have too much - so some removal of facial fat would be acceptable.

Many credible Drs perform this procedure, so I don't believe it is never justified.

What about under the eyes?

Originally posted by Beebs:
What about under the eyes?

That's different, that's not having fat sucked from the face [all eyework (including mine)is cutting underneath and removing, but that's not what I meant by sucking fat out of the face]. Keep your fat in tact in your cheeks!

Joy,
did your pc cut skin from lower or use co2 laser?? or both. Are you pleased with your eyes? Can you tell us anything else about Dr. Strasser?

thanks

Hi,
No laser but that was well over 4 years ago. I had eyes, upper and lower facelift. I'm very pleased and so is my girlfriend and another friend who had him do their facelifts also. He does all types of PS and is in Coral Springs, Florida [near Ft. Lauderdale/Pompano area] He has done work on some of his staff [lipo], and a nurse told me they send their kids to him
Joy

Originally posted by ginli:
[b]Joy,
did your pc cut skin from lower or use co2 laser?? or both. Are you pleased with your eyes? Can you tell us anything else about Dr. Strasser?

thanks

Just an addendum; the nurse who said they send their daughters to my PS does not work in his office. She works for a general practioner. I always say to ask the nurses if you want to know the BEST doc in any field.
Joy


Originally posted by joy:
Hi,
No laser but that was well over 4 years ago. I had eyes, upper and lower facelift. I'm very pleased and so is my girlfriend and another friend who had him do their facelifts also. He does all types of PS and is in Coral Springs, Florida [near Ft. Lauderdale/Pompano area] He has done work on some of his staff [lipo], and a nurse told me they send their kids to him [breast reductions, etc]
Joy

So who was this doctor who ruined your face. Perhaps you can help people avoid this butcher in the future. Thanks.

Hi Mom,
Thank you for your post, I'm so sorry for all you have gone through. Unfortunately, there are terrible doctors out there. I know my PS was insistent about never, ever taking fat from the face [not counting under eyes whatever they do to take away wrinkles]. He has mentioned this repeatedly on an weekly one-hour program when callers call in. I still believe asking nurses which Surgeons are the best to go to is usually the way to go [assuming they don't work for the same doctor]. I'm glad you are better now. I am fairly slim too, and I've seen even heavy people [older] who lose weight; they look older even though their bodies look better. Their faces are haggard looking when they lose too much fat. I so appreciate your post, and you certainly could mention the doctor that took the fat from your face and gave you a poor result. We have a 'bad doc' post title here. And it would be nice to mention in the 'good doc' or 'happy with' post your 2nd doctor who helped you so much. Thanks again.
Joy


Originally posted by mom@wci.net:
Joy,

I tried to post earlier but I don't think it was posted. I am new to this new Healthboards.

What I wanted to say is this: I had supposidly a facelift only in 1996. The stupid doctor took almost all the fat out of my face. Not my forehead. This was never, never discussed with me. The word liposuction was not a part of our consultation. I was horrified after the swelling went down that I looked anorexic and skeleton-like. This doctor never admitted to me that he did liposuction to my face. I had never heard of such a thing. I weighed 100 pounds and was very thin. Why would he do this? Unfortunately I will never know. I did sue the skunk and won. But won what? I still am very depressed and my face is still not like it used to be. And it may never be the same. I have had some work done by a plastic surgeon in N.Y. I recommend him highly. I atleast now do not feel I must commit sucide. My life will never be the same. It takes one doctor to change your life for the rest of your life. And I thought I had a good doctor. He was nice, personable, seemed concerned, etc. But all of that does not make for a good doctor. I will never trust a doctor again as long as I live.
J. W.

I was very dissappointed to see so many negative responses from people who have never even had the buccal fat removal. As with any surgery, you get what you pay for, and seeing a top surgeon is crucial. I had a PARTIAL cheek reduction procedure to help balance my face with my 93 lb. frame, and am very pleased with the results. The procedure was farily painless and the results are more clearly defined cheekbones and a much more femanine appearance. My surgeon in L.A. charged three times the rates I was quoted in NYC ($6,800) and I waited almost 18 months for my surgery date. In addition to seeing before and after photos it is important to SPEAK and MEET with former patients who have had the same procedure you are considering. Removing the enire fat pad from the cheeks will give you very dramatic results and older inexperienced doctors who make their living off of "facelifts" will rarely endorse a procedure they are not familiar with. Also be sure your surgeon is up to date on the latest techniques. Only an inexperienced doctor will tell you to "never consider a procedure", he will at the very least provide you with name of a specialist or collegue for a 2nd consultation. I have also found that most facelift doctors are accustomed to making older women look younger and not neccessarly more beautiful. If you are considering this procedure you should consult a surgeon who spealizes in asthetic surgery or has am impressive list of well know clients who must make their living based on their appearance.

Hi. I am willing to bet you not over 40. Many expert PS's will not remove fat from a face. Some of them will do anything. There is always an exception to the rule. As far as making women more beautiful v. younger looking, surgery can only do so much. I still maintain fat should never [with a few exceptions] be removed from the face, cause later on, forget it! There have been posts on this Board where a couple of women had this procedure and initially were happy, and became very disappointed with the results. I'm sure everything is fine for you, but for most people; they need plumpness in their face. I'm glad you're happy with your procedure.
Joy


Originally posted by gabrielaleach:
I was very dissappointed to see so many negative responses from people who have never even had the buccal fat removal. As with any surgery, you get what you pay for, and seeing a top surgeon is crucial. I had a PARTIAL cheek reduction procedure to help balance my face with my 93 lb. frame, and am very pleased with the results. The procedure was farily painless and the results are more clearly defined cheekbones and a much more femanine appearance. My surgeon in L.A. charged three times the rates I was quoted in NYC ($6,800) and I waited almost 18 months for my surgery date. In addition to seeing before and after photos it is important to SPEAK and MEET with former patients who have had the same procedure you are considering. Removing the enire fat pad from the cheeks will give you very dramatic results and older inexperienced doctors who make their living off of "facelifts" will rarely endorse a procedure they are not familiar with. Also be sure your surgeon is up to date on the latest techniques. Only an inexperienced doctor will tell you to "never consider a procedure", he will at the very least provide you with name of a specialist or collegue for a 2nd consultation. I have also found that most facelift doctors are accustomed to making older women look younger and not neccessarly more beautiful. If you are considering this procedure you should consult a surgeon who spealizes in asthetic surgery or has am impressive list of well know clients who must make their living based on their appearance.

Gabriel, thanks for repyling. It's nice to read a post from someone who's actually had the procedure!

Can I ask in which country you had the procedure? I am considering a cheek lift instead of a buccal fat pad extraction.

Can I ask who your surgeon was? How long did it take to recover from the operation (cosmetically).

Is fat removed from just the middle of the cheeks are can fat be removed from the sides (ie nearer the ears).

Originally posted by gabrielaleach:
I was very dissappointed to see so many negative responses from people who have never even had the buccal fat removal. As with any surgery, you get what you pay for, and seeing a top surgeon is crucial. I had a PARTIAL cheek reduction procedure to help balance my face with my 93 lb. frame, and am very pleased with the results. The procedure was farily painless and the results are more clearly defined cheekbones and a much more femanine appearance. My surgeon in L.A. charged three times the rates I was quoted in NYC ($6,800) and I waited almost 18 months for my surgery date. In addition to seeing before and after photos it is important to SPEAK and MEET with former patients who have had the same procedure you are considering. Removing the enire fat pad from the cheeks will give you very dramatic results and older inexperienced doctors who make their living off of "facelifts" will rarely endorse a procedure they are not familiar with. Also be sure your surgeon is up to date on the latest techniques. Only an inexperienced doctor will tell you to "never consider a procedure", he will at the very least provide you with name of a specialist or collegue for a 2nd consultation. I have also found that most facelift doctors are accustomed to making older women look younger and not neccessarly more beautiful. If you are considering this procedure you should consult a surgeon who spealizes in asthetic surgery or has am impressive list of well know clients who must make their living based on their appearance.

gabrielaleech- can you please post the name of the PS that did your buccal fat removal. I am interested in the procedure and am looking for a good surgeon. thanks!

sun 78- I myself am very interested in the buccal fat removal procedure. Although I've heard negative feed back on this procedure. I've also been hearing positive results wich interest me. Whats important I guess, is if you find the right PS for the job. I know lots of PS have that "we do it all" out look, but don't really specialize in certain more fragile areas. Although you hear people say that it will give a "gaunt" looking face. Or that you need to preserve that area because as you get older this area will thin with age. Very true I suppose, but left to question is on how much fat did you have in your face to begin with, and were you a good candidate from the begining. So going back to the begining. I think the people with the more positive out comes on this surgery had there surgeries done by experienced PS who have done these surgeries. I myself would like to have it done so if you or anyone else who has had thi s procedure done by an experienced PS could you please reccomend them and were there situated

with any help to that would be much appreciated, Thanx

Jerms,

When doing a search for a topic, I suggest you check the date of the post to see how old it is. Sun 78 hasn't posted on this site since April of 2003 and most likely does not visit this board anymore. Create a new thread on the topic of interest. Don't depend on older threads.