littlejmb
07-03-2005, 11:47 PM
I myself am in menopause. I am 51 and have been suffering with symptoms since I was about 45. I started out with skipping a period or two at first, started getting very nervous at times, very moody, etc. A few years later, the periods got farther and farther apart until one year - I went 9 months without one. This time I am 6 months without one. I didn't start having hot flashes and night sweats until last year, when I was 50. I started having periods of depression and anxiety then too that would last for a few months and then I would get better. It got so bad this year that I asked my GYN for help and he put me on Lexapro. I was at the point that I was not sleeping well because of the night sweats and was sinking into a deep depression, felt like crying all the time, hated myself and everyone else, everything seemed hopless and the empty feeling was scary to me. The Lexapro took all of that away and I feel wonderful now. I actually feel happy again, no more hot flashes or night sweats either!
Lots of ladies going thru this take HRT, but I was very scared of doing that, so opted to try the AD first, and it is working, so I will just stick with that and hope that I don't have to resort to taking HRT too.
Hugs to All,
Jackie
Lots of ladies going thru this take HRT, but I was very scared of doing that, so opted to try the AD first, and it is working, so I will just stick with that and hope that I don't have to resort to taking HRT too.
Hugs to All,
Jackie
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Hopefully
07-04-2005, 03:25 AM
I started have symptoms in my mid to late 30's which my previous ob/gyn called PMDD. I call those symptoms mild compared to what hit me in August 2002...anxiety, vertigo, depression, panic attack, insomnia, crashing fatigue, memory lapses, derealization, etc.
Jackie, I know so well about the empty feeling of depression, the darkness, the loneliness. I tried various SSRI antidepressants during that time, but they all made my symptoms worst.
I've had many tests, sonograms, blood work, mri, c-scan, and seen many specialists. Finally I was diagnosed with generalized anxiety disorder and when through a series of antianxiety & antidepressant medications. All the while still not feeling "normal" and knowing that there had to be something else.
It wasn't until I started researching my many symptoms that I finally realized that I was going through perimenopause. I had never heard of that word or even knew that I'd have to cross this bridge before going into menopause. Why didn't someone warn me :)!!!
So how am I coping??? With prayer, internet support groups, bcp, Wellbutrin XL, blood pressure medication, and two daily handful of vitamins :).
I'm now 44 and during these 3 years I've been through some ups and downs. I thank God for this site and the wonderful women who have shared their experiences which helped me to realize that I'm not alone and that this too will pass.
Jackie, I know so well about the empty feeling of depression, the darkness, the loneliness. I tried various SSRI antidepressants during that time, but they all made my symptoms worst.
I've had many tests, sonograms, blood work, mri, c-scan, and seen many specialists. Finally I was diagnosed with generalized anxiety disorder and when through a series of antianxiety & antidepressant medications. All the while still not feeling "normal" and knowing that there had to be something else.
It wasn't until I started researching my many symptoms that I finally realized that I was going through perimenopause. I had never heard of that word or even knew that I'd have to cross this bridge before going into menopause. Why didn't someone warn me :)!!!
So how am I coping??? With prayer, internet support groups, bcp, Wellbutrin XL, blood pressure medication, and two daily handful of vitamins :).
I'm now 44 and during these 3 years I've been through some ups and downs. I thank God for this site and the wonderful women who have shared their experiences which helped me to realize that I'm not alone and that this too will pass.
littlejmb
07-04-2005, 11:01 AM
:) Hopefully, you started out really young with your peri symptoms! I can see why you would never have thought they could be related to that, because of your age. I'm sorry you have had such a rough ride with this thing. I too had tried prayer, had my Bible study group to pray for me several times when I was at my worst, but I just needed more help it got some bad. I still take alot of vitamins and supplements too. My anxiety was not as bad as yours (thankfully) but it was enough to really make my life a wreck. I worried about things constantly, if something upsetting happened, it got "stuck" in my head and I couldn't seem to turn it loose. I couldn't drive on the interstate without having panic attacks either. I had read a book about perimenopause some 10 years ago and saw the symptoms listed there and had written them down and the supplements they recommended for them. That helped me alot. I had taken calcium for years, but added magnesium at bedtime when my peri symptoms first started, and I truly think that's why I was spared with a lot of the bad symptoms for so long.
Last summer I got the heart palps and the internal shakes several times and that did scare me, especially the heart palps. I am glad that you have found an AD that does help (the Wellbutrin XL) - as dealing with the emotional side of it make the rest so much easier! Are you still having your periods regularly? I am hoping this is it for me - but I thought the time I went 9 months without one was going to be it too! We shall see!
Take care, and thanks for sharing
Last summer I got the heart palps and the internal shakes several times and that did scare me, especially the heart palps. I am glad that you have found an AD that does help (the Wellbutrin XL) - as dealing with the emotional side of it make the rest so much easier! Are you still having your periods regularly? I am hoping this is it for me - but I thought the time I went 9 months without one was going to be it too! We shall see!
Take care, and thanks for sharing
molly123
07-04-2005, 12:40 PM
I just made my 1-year mark so I guess I have to say I'm post-meno now. I am 52 and didn't start suffering with symptoms til the year I was 50. In my younger years, I had insomnia but didn't make any connection it being peri-meno. I too never heard of the word peri-menopause. My periods started becoming irregular when I was 49, but the year I turned 50, it was just horrible. My symptoms came on suddenly with a severe case of dry eyes. My eyes were bloodshot red, my vision was affected too. From there, I started feeling dizzy, lightheaded, spacey, anxiety, extremely fatigue - not sure if it was the dry eyes causing these symptoms or it was something else. I then started having these scary internal shakes, burning arms and feet where it would hurt so bad, heart palps, night sweats and hot flashes. The fatigue was constant. I would go to bed tired and wake up tired. I could never nap, had to stop working, couldn't drive, and I would freak out whenever I went out. I also started losing weight.
My suffering went on for 5 months only which is very short in comparison to many ladies. I went to so many drs. too, which was very stressful and the waiting for an appt. and results didn't help one bit. My dr. first put me on Wellbutrin XL which made me feel worse. It was recommended to me to try Paxil CR, so I asked my dr. for that. I felt better almost immediately. I didn't find this board until I started feeling better. Having dry eyes was another peri-meno symptom. I was under treatment for a year for that and my eyes are now back to normal.
What I went through really opened my eyes more on how important our health is, how horrible going thru menopause can be, and that nothing in the world if you don't feel good. I feel pretty good these days, am considering weaning off of the Paxil. I still continue to take Evening Primrose Oil, Flaxseed Oil, Magnisum, Calcium, Vit C/E/B6/B12, workout everyday. My only complaint these days are my stiffness/aches and pain - which is on the right side and has improved a zillion times better since I starting using light weights.
My suffering went on for 5 months only which is very short in comparison to many ladies. I went to so many drs. too, which was very stressful and the waiting for an appt. and results didn't help one bit. My dr. first put me on Wellbutrin XL which made me feel worse. It was recommended to me to try Paxil CR, so I asked my dr. for that. I felt better almost immediately. I didn't find this board until I started feeling better. Having dry eyes was another peri-meno symptom. I was under treatment for a year for that and my eyes are now back to normal.
What I went through really opened my eyes more on how important our health is, how horrible going thru menopause can be, and that nothing in the world if you don't feel good. I feel pretty good these days, am considering weaning off of the Paxil. I still continue to take Evening Primrose Oil, Flaxseed Oil, Magnisum, Calcium, Vit C/E/B6/B12, workout everyday. My only complaint these days are my stiffness/aches and pain - which is on the right side and has improved a zillion times better since I starting using light weights.
littlejmb
07-04-2005, 12:48 PM
Hey Molly!
Hoped you find my thread. Don't see where you wrote anything?? How are you doing? :)
Hoped you find my thread. Don't see where you wrote anything?? How are you doing? :)
molly123
07-04-2005, 01:22 PM
Hey Jackie,
I hit the wrong key and it repeated your post so I had to go back in and do any edit.
Are you telling me that you suffered for 5 years? I can't even imagine how you dealt with it! In my case, I really think when I turned 50, my hormones were really wacking out - I think I was transitioning from peri to menopause and that's when it hits big time. To me, it seems like you have to go through your worse before it gets better!
molly :wave:
I hit the wrong key and it repeated your post so I had to go back in and do any edit.
Are you telling me that you suffered for 5 years? I can't even imagine how you dealt with it! In my case, I really think when I turned 50, my hormones were really wacking out - I think I was transitioning from peri to menopause and that's when it hits big time. To me, it seems like you have to go through your worse before it gets better!
molly :wave:
littlejmb
07-04-2005, 01:34 PM
Hey Molly, I actually did suffer that long, but the worst of it didn't really hit until I was 49, about six months before I hit 50. That's when it hit me big time. But, it didn't hit me as bad as it did you, like I said before, since you never experienced PMS before - I think it was all built up and hit you in one big PMS, lol. I know it's not funny, but if you don't laugh at some of this stuff, you'd just go crazy right? I have some friends that are just now getting to where I was, so being the first to experience it of my group, I can hopefully be there to comfort and advise my pals!
We're just having a lazy day today. Got up around 8:30, they had already started shooting fireworks and Ginger was freaking out already so I got up with her. Poor little thing, she just runs from room to room like a crazy person (kind of like I felt like doing during my worse meno time, lol). You're lucky Kiwi isn't bothered by it. Hope you have a good 4th of July. We don't have any plans, as yet. Just had the big get together on Saturday - way too many people in one place for me. Made me slightly nervous.
Still seriously thinking about weaning off your Paxil? If you do, you will find out soon enough hope you will cope without it. Congrats again for hitting that one year mark! I can't wait till I hit it myself!! :bouncing: Know what really scares me, tho? I have some older freinds that still experience the hot flashes, etc, and they should be thru all that. Wonder when you finally get over them???
Hugs (one for you, and one for Kiwi)
Jackie
We're just having a lazy day today. Got up around 8:30, they had already started shooting fireworks and Ginger was freaking out already so I got up with her. Poor little thing, she just runs from room to room like a crazy person (kind of like I felt like doing during my worse meno time, lol). You're lucky Kiwi isn't bothered by it. Hope you have a good 4th of July. We don't have any plans, as yet. Just had the big get together on Saturday - way too many people in one place for me. Made me slightly nervous.
Still seriously thinking about weaning off your Paxil? If you do, you will find out soon enough hope you will cope without it. Congrats again for hitting that one year mark! I can't wait till I hit it myself!! :bouncing: Know what really scares me, tho? I have some older freinds that still experience the hot flashes, etc, and they should be thru all that. Wonder when you finally get over them???
Hugs (one for you, and one for Kiwi)
Jackie
molly123
07-04-2005, 02:45 PM
Hey Jackie,
Wow, I don't know how you managed feeling thata way for 5 years! Let me tell you, even tho mine was only 5 mos., there were times when I just wanted my life to end! I didn't want to live if that's the way it was going to be and, trust me, I thought it was going to be forever because all the drs. couldn't pinpont what it was that I had. Of course, my rationale thinking I didn't do anything stupid! It wasn't until I started hot flashes that it was "most likely" that it was menopausal. At first, my dr. thought I was just suffering from some kind of depression and because he knows I tend to have anxiety, he'd keep asking if there were any unresolved issues. All I know is that if I was depressed, it was because I was sick and tired of feeling so bad. In the meantime, I going from dr. to dr., getting tested and all stressed out. I have always been one to be a worry wart too so that didn't help. Thank goodness my sister was ther for me. She put up with me day/night and she even had to babysit me for a few days! It's funny that we're only a year apart and she didn't go thru what I did at all.
I think about weaning off of Paxil just because I don't want to be depended on an AD to function. Of course, I don't know how I will be. I know I'll talk to my dr. about it in Aug. I dunno...I just don't know what this kind of med will do to me in a long run. Do you intend to stay on Lexapro for a long time?
With me, it seems that the few friends that I have around my age isn't going thru meno yet even. Some are still having regular periods and they don't have breast issues or aches and pain like I did/do. Does this mean I'm aging before them?? :eek: Or, maybe I'm not as healthy as I think?? But then again, I have friends who are younger and are worse off, healthwise.
Do you have any kind of symptoms anymore? Like feeling warm, hot flashes? I do...but not too often and it's bearable. I would much rather have hot flashes (even tho it kinda messes up the makeup) than to deal with all those other symptoms I had. I don't wish them on anyone (except my enemies! LOL!).
I have a BBQ to go to but don't feel like it. Guess RMC is at the beach, hope she's relaxing!! LOL! Think I'm just staying home, cleanup a bit and start working on my photos and scrapbook project. I want to make a calendar of Kiwi for Xmas presents! I know...I'm thinking ahead!
Have a good day and hugs to ya too!
molly
Wow, I don't know how you managed feeling thata way for 5 years! Let me tell you, even tho mine was only 5 mos., there were times when I just wanted my life to end! I didn't want to live if that's the way it was going to be and, trust me, I thought it was going to be forever because all the drs. couldn't pinpont what it was that I had. Of course, my rationale thinking I didn't do anything stupid! It wasn't until I started hot flashes that it was "most likely" that it was menopausal. At first, my dr. thought I was just suffering from some kind of depression and because he knows I tend to have anxiety, he'd keep asking if there were any unresolved issues. All I know is that if I was depressed, it was because I was sick and tired of feeling so bad. In the meantime, I going from dr. to dr., getting tested and all stressed out. I have always been one to be a worry wart too so that didn't help. Thank goodness my sister was ther for me. She put up with me day/night and she even had to babysit me for a few days! It's funny that we're only a year apart and she didn't go thru what I did at all.
I think about weaning off of Paxil just because I don't want to be depended on an AD to function. Of course, I don't know how I will be. I know I'll talk to my dr. about it in Aug. I dunno...I just don't know what this kind of med will do to me in a long run. Do you intend to stay on Lexapro for a long time?
With me, it seems that the few friends that I have around my age isn't going thru meno yet even. Some are still having regular periods and they don't have breast issues or aches and pain like I did/do. Does this mean I'm aging before them?? :eek: Or, maybe I'm not as healthy as I think?? But then again, I have friends who are younger and are worse off, healthwise.
Do you have any kind of symptoms anymore? Like feeling warm, hot flashes? I do...but not too often and it's bearable. I would much rather have hot flashes (even tho it kinda messes up the makeup) than to deal with all those other symptoms I had. I don't wish them on anyone (except my enemies! LOL!).
I have a BBQ to go to but don't feel like it. Guess RMC is at the beach, hope she's relaxing!! LOL! Think I'm just staying home, cleanup a bit and start working on my photos and scrapbook project. I want to make a calendar of Kiwi for Xmas presents! I know...I'm thinking ahead!
Have a good day and hugs to ya too!
molly
alwaysaworrier
07-04-2005, 03:13 PM
I started have symptoms in my mid to late 30's which my previous ob/gyn called PMDD. I call those symptoms mild compared to what hit me in August 2002...anxiety, vertigo, depression, panic attack, insomnia, crashing fatigue, memory lapses, derealization, etc.
Jackie, I know so well about the empty feeling of depression, the darkness, the loneliness. I tried various SSRI antidepressants during that time, but they all made my symptoms worst.
I've had many tests, sonograms, blood work, mri, c-scan, and seen many specialists. Finally I was diagnosed with generalized anxiety disorder and when through a series of antianxiety & antidepressant medications. All the while still not feeling "normal" and knowing that there had to be something else.
It wasn't until I started researching my many symptoms that I finally realized that I was going through perimenopause. I had never heard of that word or even knew that I'd have to cross this bridge before going into menopause. Why didn't someone warn me :)!!!
So how am I coping??? With prayer, internet support groups, bcp, Wellbutrin XL, blood pressure medication, and two daily handful of vitamins :).
I'm now 44 and during these 3 years I've been through some ups and downs. I thank God for this site and the wonderful women who have shared their experiences which helped me to realize that I'm not alone and that this too will pass.
Hi Hopefully -
I think I can relate to you most! I am 47 now but (cringe) I first started with my symptoms exactly 10 years ago! I was 37 coming on 38 but I had no idea what was the matter with me. Even now ten years on I still wonder is it peri or something else complete - you know how it is some days. My very first symptom was something in my head - like a a wave just passing through my head and scared me silly, which left me weak etc. This did not happen on a regular basis by any means, you know, every couple of months maybe. Thought, maybe bp or whatever, went to dr, that was perfect and she couldn't find anything the matter but did mention panic attack. Had no idea what they were so........this went on for a couple of years and I went to dr. several times, mentioned menopause to them and she said "too young" but did bloods maybe once a year or so and of course they were normal. So what was wrong with me ........no idea......thought am I imagining this!! It just got worse and more severe over the years and I was by now getting this surge through my body, kinda from waist up to my head and I can tell you that was scary. Still not 100% sure what that was and it still happens but I've gotten used to them and don't get as scared. Anyway, my periods started getting irregular coming 18/19 days close together and sometimes 40 days apart (I had always been a 28 day girl. I am actually at about day 38 this month! Around that time dr said it probably is perimenopause but still bloods are normal so where does that leave me. My biggest problem is what are these surges I feel - are they panic attacks, anxiety, hot flashes (dr thinks thats what they are). I get very weak etc when these happen but mostly its because I don't know if I'm going to pass out or what and they are frightening. I can feel miserable for a few days afterwards, down in myself, worried whats wrong with me etc. About 6 months ago I decided I'd had enough and started HRT but only stayed on it maybe 4/5 months cause it didn't do that much for me and I was a bit scared on that also. Actually this month I'm not too bad (but sorta badish 2day) but can't complain. Lightheadness is a big thing with me too and the feeling of being off-balance. Down on top of everything I developed high BP and now on meds for that but you know is it any wonder.
Sorry for such a long post but needed to get this off my chest. The other thing is I have no friends that are going through anything remotely like me. If it were not for these boards I think I would be gone crazy. thanks for reading
Maggie
Jackie, I know so well about the empty feeling of depression, the darkness, the loneliness. I tried various SSRI antidepressants during that time, but they all made my symptoms worst.
I've had many tests, sonograms, blood work, mri, c-scan, and seen many specialists. Finally I was diagnosed with generalized anxiety disorder and when through a series of antianxiety & antidepressant medications. All the while still not feeling "normal" and knowing that there had to be something else.
It wasn't until I started researching my many symptoms that I finally realized that I was going through perimenopause. I had never heard of that word or even knew that I'd have to cross this bridge before going into menopause. Why didn't someone warn me :)!!!
So how am I coping??? With prayer, internet support groups, bcp, Wellbutrin XL, blood pressure medication, and two daily handful of vitamins :).
I'm now 44 and during these 3 years I've been through some ups and downs. I thank God for this site and the wonderful women who have shared their experiences which helped me to realize that I'm not alone and that this too will pass.
Hi Hopefully -
I think I can relate to you most! I am 47 now but (cringe) I first started with my symptoms exactly 10 years ago! I was 37 coming on 38 but I had no idea what was the matter with me. Even now ten years on I still wonder is it peri or something else complete - you know how it is some days. My very first symptom was something in my head - like a a wave just passing through my head and scared me silly, which left me weak etc. This did not happen on a regular basis by any means, you know, every couple of months maybe. Thought, maybe bp or whatever, went to dr, that was perfect and she couldn't find anything the matter but did mention panic attack. Had no idea what they were so........this went on for a couple of years and I went to dr. several times, mentioned menopause to them and she said "too young" but did bloods maybe once a year or so and of course they were normal. So what was wrong with me ........no idea......thought am I imagining this!! It just got worse and more severe over the years and I was by now getting this surge through my body, kinda from waist up to my head and I can tell you that was scary. Still not 100% sure what that was and it still happens but I've gotten used to them and don't get as scared. Anyway, my periods started getting irregular coming 18/19 days close together and sometimes 40 days apart (I had always been a 28 day girl. I am actually at about day 38 this month! Around that time dr said it probably is perimenopause but still bloods are normal so where does that leave me. My biggest problem is what are these surges I feel - are they panic attacks, anxiety, hot flashes (dr thinks thats what they are). I get very weak etc when these happen but mostly its because I don't know if I'm going to pass out or what and they are frightening. I can feel miserable for a few days afterwards, down in myself, worried whats wrong with me etc. About 6 months ago I decided I'd had enough and started HRT but only stayed on it maybe 4/5 months cause it didn't do that much for me and I was a bit scared on that also. Actually this month I'm not too bad (but sorta badish 2day) but can't complain. Lightheadness is a big thing with me too and the feeling of being off-balance. Down on top of everything I developed high BP and now on meds for that but you know is it any wonder.
Sorry for such a long post but needed to get this off my chest. The other thing is I have no friends that are going through anything remotely like me. If it were not for these boards I think I would be gone crazy. thanks for reading
Maggie
littlejmb
07-04-2005, 03:25 PM
Molly, all this time and I didn't realize that you only had symptoms for five months! With all of us posting at first I guess everyone tends to run together as far as symtoms, know what I mean! I have forgotten how old you are also. Were you the one that started their period early like I did? I started when I was 10 1/2, which I know is an early age. I wonder if that has anything to do with me starting thru this, especially the skipping of periods earlier than alot of the other people? My sister had hot flashes earlier than I did, and she's nine years younger than me. But, she had to have her ovaries removed because of dermoid tumors and cysts. Luckily, I have never had any problems with my ovaries or anything else. I do have fibrocystic breasts though and had taken vitamin E for it, but I have stopped because of what they say about it now. I'm kind of concerned about taking it. Maybe the flaxseed oil or Evening Primrose oil is enough to help with that.
To tell you the truth, I honestly don't feel menopausal at all since I started on Lexapro! I know I talked about getting off it for a while, but you and Roxanne made me see that if it was helping me this much, I'd be crazy to try something else. As far as staying on it long term - I am not sure. Maybe in a few years I will try weaning off it and see how I am without it. I like the fact that I can handle stress so much easier, and I like you, have always been a worrier. So you know, I may stay on it longterm.
I am cleaning house also, doing some things I haven't done in a while. I think Roxanne was going to some freind's house today for a cookout, and went to the Ocean Saturday. I want to go to the Ocean!! I have been meaning to tell you that scrapbooking is very popular here too. I just don't have the patience for it. I am seriously thinking about buying an inexpensive sewing machine tho so I can do my own alterations. Just THINKING, lol...
Have fun at the bbq - and talk to ya later :)
Jackie
To tell you the truth, I honestly don't feel menopausal at all since I started on Lexapro! I know I talked about getting off it for a while, but you and Roxanne made me see that if it was helping me this much, I'd be crazy to try something else. As far as staying on it long term - I am not sure. Maybe in a few years I will try weaning off it and see how I am without it. I like the fact that I can handle stress so much easier, and I like you, have always been a worrier. So you know, I may stay on it longterm.
I am cleaning house also, doing some things I haven't done in a while. I think Roxanne was going to some freind's house today for a cookout, and went to the Ocean Saturday. I want to go to the Ocean!! I have been meaning to tell you that scrapbooking is very popular here too. I just don't have the patience for it. I am seriously thinking about buying an inexpensive sewing machine tho so I can do my own alterations. Just THINKING, lol...
Have fun at the bbq - and talk to ya later :)
Jackie
littlejmb
07-04-2005, 03:47 PM
Maggie, how scary for you! I cannot relate to these surges you are speaking of, and I know that they are very scary. Have you read on these boards about anyone else having these? The thing that I get is this very heavy feeling in my head that comes over me and I feel like I'm in a trance. I get real sleepy and can't hold my eyes open. Unfortunately, it happens every day when I am drive home from work, and I am so scared that I am going to have a wreck! I hope that you find out the source of your problem and that will help you to deal with it. There were a couple of years that I would stay tired all the time and go to bed tired, and wake up just as tired. I was beginning to worry that I had something really bad wrong with me! I feel better on Lexapro tho and get a good nights sleep, and that helps a whole lot.
Hang in there, kept posting and venting - that helps alot too!
Jackie
Hang in there, kept posting and venting - that helps alot too!
Jackie
molly123
07-04-2005, 04:21 PM
Maggie,
I'm not sure if I've experienced the same thing, but those head waves and surges you mentioned is kind of like what I think I had too. It's hard to describe or find the right choice of words as t what we're going thru sometimes. With my head - it felt like a sensation going through it; it was pretty constant for a while too. I also had I guess fuzzy brain - I felt like I wasn't all there, like everything around me wasn't real. Also, those surges you mentioned, I had what I called internal shakes - it's like the my whole insides are vibrating, like a surge in a way too. This usually happened when I'm sleeping and it often wakes me up and I just be shaking, feeling jittery inside for hours! Are you taking any Magnesium? Not an instant fix but I think in a long run it helps.
molly
I'm not sure if I've experienced the same thing, but those head waves and surges you mentioned is kind of like what I think I had too. It's hard to describe or find the right choice of words as t what we're going thru sometimes. With my head - it felt like a sensation going through it; it was pretty constant for a while too. I also had I guess fuzzy brain - I felt like I wasn't all there, like everything around me wasn't real. Also, those surges you mentioned, I had what I called internal shakes - it's like the my whole insides are vibrating, like a surge in a way too. This usually happened when I'm sleeping and it often wakes me up and I just be shaking, feeling jittery inside for hours! Are you taking any Magnesium? Not an instant fix but I think in a long run it helps.
molly
molly123
07-04-2005, 04:30 PM
Yes, Jackie, I only had my symptoms for about 5 mos. It was short-lived but like I told you before, I tend to go from one extreme to another. That's how things seem to be with me in my life. This all happened in late 2003, the year I was 50. So, by my 51st birthday in Mar. 2004, I was feeling fine, and at that time I also haven't had a period 4 mos., then June 04, had a period for that one month only, and then haven't had one since. Now I'm 52, the exact age that my mom went thru it. I started my period in jr. high so I think I was about 13 or 14, so it's kinda on the late side I guess. I know I did all my developing and growing the summer I was 14! I read if you start your period earlier, you can go thru meno later...but who knows!?
I know you were talking about going off Lexapro because you were so concerned about your 3 lb. weight gain (come on, it could be worst!!) - but I wouldn't risk the chance of trying something else only to find it doesn't work and you get all these side effects! I noticed that now that I'm in post-meno, the weight is coming off again. I've read somewhere that that is what happens. So be patience and I'm sure you will get back to being your skinny self!! :D
Don't think I'm going to the BBQ. Been to couple of dinners since Thursday and need to do stuff around the house. The old boss is coming over tomorrow so I also got to get some work done on those days when I was busy goofing off on these boards! All your fault!! LOL! :D
molly
I know you were talking about going off Lexapro because you were so concerned about your 3 lb. weight gain (come on, it could be worst!!) - but I wouldn't risk the chance of trying something else only to find it doesn't work and you get all these side effects! I noticed that now that I'm in post-meno, the weight is coming off again. I've read somewhere that that is what happens. So be patience and I'm sure you will get back to being your skinny self!! :D
Don't think I'm going to the BBQ. Been to couple of dinners since Thursday and need to do stuff around the house. The old boss is coming over tomorrow so I also got to get some work done on those days when I was busy goofing off on these boards! All your fault!! LOL! :D
molly
littlejmb
07-04-2005, 04:54 PM
hmmm, now I don't know which of our meno sisters started their period early like me. I know there was someone - just don't remember who. But - I clearly show that the theory that if you start your period early, you go thru menopause late!
You know, it's really strange that you went thru severe meno symptoms like that, and then it only lasted for that short period of time. I guess you got them over with and out of the way. You know, I know that my grandmother had to be institionalized for a while at some point in her life, before I was born. I just wonder if she was going thru menopause? I bet alot of women back then they thought were just crazy, when they were just menopausal. Something to think about! :confused:
Well, now we are having company for dinner, so I have to go to the store and get hamburger meat to make hamburgers and stuff. It's his friend and his wife that I talk about all the time (the crazy one) that went off his Paxil cold turkey :eek: I hope he learned his lesson on that one! NEVER EVER get off your AD cold turkey! Especially Paxil!
SO it's all my fault you were goofing off - huh? Well, I was going to blame my goofing off on you! We're going to both just do better aren't we? I am turning over a new leaf, I will check my email before I start work, at lunch, and then after work, lol. I really do need to buckle down, but for some reason my attention span is so short. I am not sure if it's the Lexapro or if it's menopausal. I have problems remembering things at work too, and that bothers me. I know some of my customers probably think I am goofy! :D
Well - since you're not going to the bbq - just do your thing. Sometimes that's best anyway. I hope you are right about when I'm thru with menopause that I'm able to lose this weight again. I know I was too thin, but now I think my arms look a little plump. I don't like that, and I know my tummy pooches out a bit now. :rolleyes: Not good. I have been doing my exercises faithfully for the last few days tho. I hope I can keep it up. I sure need to! I know it makes me feel better, as some days I feel like I'm dragging. I guess it's that fatigue that goes with menopause, eh?
Toodles and will catch ya later!
Jackie :D
You know, it's really strange that you went thru severe meno symptoms like that, and then it only lasted for that short period of time. I guess you got them over with and out of the way. You know, I know that my grandmother had to be institionalized for a while at some point in her life, before I was born. I just wonder if she was going thru menopause? I bet alot of women back then they thought were just crazy, when they were just menopausal. Something to think about! :confused:
Well, now we are having company for dinner, so I have to go to the store and get hamburger meat to make hamburgers and stuff. It's his friend and his wife that I talk about all the time (the crazy one) that went off his Paxil cold turkey :eek: I hope he learned his lesson on that one! NEVER EVER get off your AD cold turkey! Especially Paxil!
SO it's all my fault you were goofing off - huh? Well, I was going to blame my goofing off on you! We're going to both just do better aren't we? I am turning over a new leaf, I will check my email before I start work, at lunch, and then after work, lol. I really do need to buckle down, but for some reason my attention span is so short. I am not sure if it's the Lexapro or if it's menopausal. I have problems remembering things at work too, and that bothers me. I know some of my customers probably think I am goofy! :D
Well - since you're not going to the bbq - just do your thing. Sometimes that's best anyway. I hope you are right about when I'm thru with menopause that I'm able to lose this weight again. I know I was too thin, but now I think my arms look a little plump. I don't like that, and I know my tummy pooches out a bit now. :rolleyes: Not good. I have been doing my exercises faithfully for the last few days tho. I hope I can keep it up. I sure need to! I know it makes me feel better, as some days I feel like I'm dragging. I guess it's that fatigue that goes with menopause, eh?
Toodles and will catch ya later!
Jackie :D
alwaysaworrier
07-04-2005, 05:43 PM
Maggie,
I'm not sure if I've experienced the same thing, but those head waves and surges you mentioned is kind of like what I think I had too. It's hard to describe or find the right choice of words as t what we're going thru sometimes. With my head - it felt like a sensation going through it; it was pretty constant for a while too. I also had I guess fuzzy brain - I felt like I wasn't all there, like everything around me wasn't real. Also, those surges you mentioned, I had what I called internal shakes - it's like the my whole insides are vibrating, like a surge in a way too. This usually happened when I'm sleeping and it often wakes me up and I just be shaking, feeling jittery inside for hours! Are you taking any Magnesium? Not an instant fix but I think in a long run it helps.
molly
Thanks for reply Molly.
It is hard to describe isn't it. Yes, the head thing is like a sensation going through my head and the fuzzy head thing is horrible.
Sometimes when I'm drifting off to sleep I suddenly am woken up with a surge right up to my throat and you think "what was that" - it can happen a couple of times before you drift back to sleep. thank god I have never been woken with it during the night only when drifting off sometimes. I have read about the internal shakes in some of the posts and maybe that is what happens me as well but I don't shake but do feel jittery inside for hours and a general weak of over feeling sometimes also. I am going to try the Magnesium - i did try it a few years ago but I think i didn't give it much of a chance and stopped maybe after a month. I know your not a doctor but do you think what i describe is peri? I have read many of your posts and you are always so helpful to people. Thank you so much
Maggie :angel:
I'm not sure if I've experienced the same thing, but those head waves and surges you mentioned is kind of like what I think I had too. It's hard to describe or find the right choice of words as t what we're going thru sometimes. With my head - it felt like a sensation going through it; it was pretty constant for a while too. I also had I guess fuzzy brain - I felt like I wasn't all there, like everything around me wasn't real. Also, those surges you mentioned, I had what I called internal shakes - it's like the my whole insides are vibrating, like a surge in a way too. This usually happened when I'm sleeping and it often wakes me up and I just be shaking, feeling jittery inside for hours! Are you taking any Magnesium? Not an instant fix but I think in a long run it helps.
molly
Thanks for reply Molly.
It is hard to describe isn't it. Yes, the head thing is like a sensation going through my head and the fuzzy head thing is horrible.
Sometimes when I'm drifting off to sleep I suddenly am woken up with a surge right up to my throat and you think "what was that" - it can happen a couple of times before you drift back to sleep. thank god I have never been woken with it during the night only when drifting off sometimes. I have read about the internal shakes in some of the posts and maybe that is what happens me as well but I don't shake but do feel jittery inside for hours and a general weak of over feeling sometimes also. I am going to try the Magnesium - i did try it a few years ago but I think i didn't give it much of a chance and stopped maybe after a month. I know your not a doctor but do you think what i describe is peri? I have read many of your posts and you are always so helpful to people. Thank you so much
Maggie :angel:
Little Amy
07-04-2005, 06:17 PM
Hi Maggie, Molly and Jackie:
Maggie, I know exactly what you are talking about going through your head. I have had that same sensation happen so many times over the last 5 years or so, and it's usually worse around the time that I ovulate. Like you, I've been to so many doctors, had so many tests, same diagnosis as you, in fact your "period history" is identical to mine. I've yet to find a medicine or vitamin that will do anything about the weird head sensations and internal shakes. And I would definitely say that what you are describing is perimenopause - or else you and I and a bunch of other women have the same strange mystery disease that all these doctors can't figure out. Hang in there Maggie, I know it can be absolutely horrible sometimes, and I too have wanted to end my life because the symptoms just got so overwhelming and no one could help. But we are here for you and each other, and we'll just get through this together.
Happy 4th everyone, I'm glad I found all you girls!
Amy
Maggie, I know exactly what you are talking about going through your head. I have had that same sensation happen so many times over the last 5 years or so, and it's usually worse around the time that I ovulate. Like you, I've been to so many doctors, had so many tests, same diagnosis as you, in fact your "period history" is identical to mine. I've yet to find a medicine or vitamin that will do anything about the weird head sensations and internal shakes. And I would definitely say that what you are describing is perimenopause - or else you and I and a bunch of other women have the same strange mystery disease that all these doctors can't figure out. Hang in there Maggie, I know it can be absolutely horrible sometimes, and I too have wanted to end my life because the symptoms just got so overwhelming and no one could help. But we are here for you and each other, and we'll just get through this together.
Happy 4th everyone, I'm glad I found all you girls!
Amy
littlejmb
07-04-2005, 06:39 PM
Hi Amy :wave:
Glad you found us too! I hope your hubby is feeling ok by now. I have one week to go before I start my root canal. I'm not obsessing about it yet, I will worry about it that day. In the old days - I'd been worrying myself to death about it right now. Hope you're having a good fourth.
Maggie, I really think that I have missed some of the awful symptoms of peri because I do take magnesium faithfully and have for some years now. I will try to find what I shared with the other ladies as far as supplements and what they are good for. It might help you too. After reading alot of women's posts, I find I am very blessed that I have not experienced some of these awful symptoms. I actually took Dong Quai for several years and that helped me alot too. I would still be taking it, but Walmart quit carrying it and now I'd have to go to the heathfood store and it's just too expensive there. Dong Quai is a Chinese herb and is a wonderful supplement for peri menopause symptoms. Get started on the Magnesium and see if it a while it doesn't alieveate some of your symptoms, ok?
Jackie :)
Glad you found us too! I hope your hubby is feeling ok by now. I have one week to go before I start my root canal. I'm not obsessing about it yet, I will worry about it that day. In the old days - I'd been worrying myself to death about it right now. Hope you're having a good fourth.
Maggie, I really think that I have missed some of the awful symptoms of peri because I do take magnesium faithfully and have for some years now. I will try to find what I shared with the other ladies as far as supplements and what they are good for. It might help you too. After reading alot of women's posts, I find I am very blessed that I have not experienced some of these awful symptoms. I actually took Dong Quai for several years and that helped me alot too. I would still be taking it, but Walmart quit carrying it and now I'd have to go to the heathfood store and it's just too expensive there. Dong Quai is a Chinese herb and is a wonderful supplement for peri menopause symptoms. Get started on the Magnesium and see if it a while it doesn't alieveate some of your symptoms, ok?
Jackie :)
Little Amy
07-04-2005, 06:44 PM
Jackie:
How much magnesium do you take, so I can make sure I'm getting enough. I noticed you said you take it at night. Does it bother your stomach at all?
My husband has done very well, no problems at all, and so will you! I'm already praying for you and know you get anxious. I'm exactly the same way...I can worry rings around anyone about anything, but am trying to replace the worry with prayer. And the perimenopause just takes all this anxiety and aches, pains, etc. to the tenth power!! Boo, hisssss!!!!!
Amy
How much magnesium do you take, so I can make sure I'm getting enough. I noticed you said you take it at night. Does it bother your stomach at all?
My husband has done very well, no problems at all, and so will you! I'm already praying for you and know you get anxious. I'm exactly the same way...I can worry rings around anyone about anything, but am trying to replace the worry with prayer. And the perimenopause just takes all this anxiety and aches, pains, etc. to the tenth power!! Boo, hisssss!!!!!
Amy
littlejmb
07-04-2005, 06:46 PM
Maggie, I just found what I shared with the other ladies - here you go:
keep meaning to comment on the magnesium. I have been taking that for quite a few years now since reading in a book about peri that it helps you to sleep better and is calming. I take three an hour before bedtime of the brand that comes from Walmart that has Chelated Zinc in it. It's Spring Valley brand. I wonder if I haven't had the internal shakes very much because I take the magnesium? Here is what they said you should take:
Essential Vitamins:
Vitamin B complex, including 50 to 100 mg of B6
Vitamin C, 500mg a day
Vitamin E, 400 to 1200 i.e.
Magnesium, 500 to 1000 mg before sleeping
Take magnesium separate from calcium and on a 1:1 ratio.
Almonds are a good source of good fat and magnesium
Symptoms of magnesium deficiency:
Nervousness Apathy
Anxiety Depression
Irritability Perspiration increase
Muscle tremors Body odor increase
Muscle cramps Urination increase
Memory loss Constipation
Concentration problems Insomnia
Low Zinc Levels:
Frontal Headache Food cravings
Heavy Menstrual flow Mood swings
Menstrual Irregularities Fatigue
Constipation Depression
Weight gain Yeast infections
Helpful oils and Herbs:
Flaxseed Oil
Evening Primrose Oil
Black Cohosh (Remifemin by Enzymatic Therapy)
Dong Quai
Hope this helps you and anyone else with questions about what we need during this time
keep meaning to comment on the magnesium. I have been taking that for quite a few years now since reading in a book about peri that it helps you to sleep better and is calming. I take three an hour before bedtime of the brand that comes from Walmart that has Chelated Zinc in it. It's Spring Valley brand. I wonder if I haven't had the internal shakes very much because I take the magnesium? Here is what they said you should take:
Essential Vitamins:
Vitamin B complex, including 50 to 100 mg of B6
Vitamin C, 500mg a day
Vitamin E, 400 to 1200 i.e.
Magnesium, 500 to 1000 mg before sleeping
Take magnesium separate from calcium and on a 1:1 ratio.
Almonds are a good source of good fat and magnesium
Symptoms of magnesium deficiency:
Nervousness Apathy
Anxiety Depression
Irritability Perspiration increase
Muscle tremors Body odor increase
Muscle cramps Urination increase
Memory loss Constipation
Concentration problems Insomnia
Low Zinc Levels:
Frontal Headache Food cravings
Heavy Menstrual flow Mood swings
Menstrual Irregularities Fatigue
Constipation Depression
Weight gain Yeast infections
Helpful oils and Herbs:
Flaxseed Oil
Evening Primrose Oil
Black Cohosh (Remifemin by Enzymatic Therapy)
Dong Quai
Hope this helps you and anyone else with questions about what we need during this time
littlejmb
07-04-2005, 07:06 PM
Amy, so glad you hubby is doing good! That is wonderful. Thank you for the prayer, i sure need it.
As far as the magnesium - I buy the Spring Valley kind from Walmart that has the Chelated Zinc with it. I take three tablets before bed. usually about an hour before. It helps me sleep better. I am really thinking that's why I've never had the internal shakes at bed time. I think it amounts to 400 mg, and I take a multi that has magnesium in it too. I'm a firm believer in taking it - it even says that it helps with muscle tremors (which could be the internal shakes). :)
Well, got comany coming over for dinner, so I guess I'd better shake a leg! It is SO HOT here - it feels like 100 degress :eek:
ttyl :wave:
Jackie
As far as the magnesium - I buy the Spring Valley kind from Walmart that has the Chelated Zinc with it. I take three tablets before bed. usually about an hour before. It helps me sleep better. I am really thinking that's why I've never had the internal shakes at bed time. I think it amounts to 400 mg, and I take a multi that has magnesium in it too. I'm a firm believer in taking it - it even says that it helps with muscle tremors (which could be the internal shakes). :)
Well, got comany coming over for dinner, so I guess I'd better shake a leg! It is SO HOT here - it feels like 100 degress :eek:
ttyl :wave:
Jackie
molly123
07-04-2005, 11:54 PM
Maggie,
I think you're about 48 now? Well, that's prime time for a woman to be going thru peri-meno! If all tests come back normal and drs. rule out other possibilities and come across clueless as to why you are continue feeling the way you do, it is peri-menopause!
I don't think anyone realizes how bad some of these symptoms can get until you experience them firsthand. My jittery shakes were internal - I didn't see anything shaking nor can anyone see any shaking. I felt like I was jittering or vibrating inside. It was so bad for me that I'd be scared to go to sleep. Those internal shakes would wake me up and then it would set me off in a panic too - so I'd be pacing around, with my heart racing, feeling sweating and completely helpless. I also experienced where my entire body ached so bad that I just cringed and cried. Many nights, I would curled up and just begged for it to stop!! I really hope you won't have to go thru what I did. Once I was put on the Paxil CR, I was able to do research and that's when I found others on this other menopause board with these internal jitters - they all recommended taking magnesium. I started taking it because even being on the Paxil, I still felt the internal shakes but not as bad. I wanted to make sure they never come back. I started taking 500mg day and 500mg at bedtime. Now, I just take 500mg at bedtime. I went through many big bottles so you have to make it regularly and consistenly. From what I read, our bodies really deplete the minerals we need in our bodies during all this hormonal fluctuations.
I was never one to take a lot of vits and supplements but boy! after all the those symptoms, I had a pile of pills to take (about 17 pills/day) and I made sure I took them! Keep me posted and how you're doing! Rest assure that what you're going through does happen to others and like me, it goes away eventually!
molly :wave:
molly
I think you're about 48 now? Well, that's prime time for a woman to be going thru peri-meno! If all tests come back normal and drs. rule out other possibilities and come across clueless as to why you are continue feeling the way you do, it is peri-menopause!
I don't think anyone realizes how bad some of these symptoms can get until you experience them firsthand. My jittery shakes were internal - I didn't see anything shaking nor can anyone see any shaking. I felt like I was jittering or vibrating inside. It was so bad for me that I'd be scared to go to sleep. Those internal shakes would wake me up and then it would set me off in a panic too - so I'd be pacing around, with my heart racing, feeling sweating and completely helpless. I also experienced where my entire body ached so bad that I just cringed and cried. Many nights, I would curled up and just begged for it to stop!! I really hope you won't have to go thru what I did. Once I was put on the Paxil CR, I was able to do research and that's when I found others on this other menopause board with these internal jitters - they all recommended taking magnesium. I started taking it because even being on the Paxil, I still felt the internal shakes but not as bad. I wanted to make sure they never come back. I started taking 500mg day and 500mg at bedtime. Now, I just take 500mg at bedtime. I went through many big bottles so you have to make it regularly and consistenly. From what I read, our bodies really deplete the minerals we need in our bodies during all this hormonal fluctuations.
I was never one to take a lot of vits and supplements but boy! after all the those symptoms, I had a pile of pills to take (about 17 pills/day) and I made sure I took them! Keep me posted and how you're doing! Rest assure that what you're going through does happen to others and like me, it goes away eventually!
molly :wave:
molly
molly123
07-05-2005, 12:11 AM
Hi Amy.
Nice to see you here! Glad you found us! Hey, I didn't know you felt that bad - to the point like I did! You have been dealing with all this for 5 years? Geezzz! You are amazing! I couldn't even handle it for the short 5 months!
I still take Magnesium at bedtime. I started with 500mg/day and then 500mg/at bedtime. If you get stomach problems, try magnesium chloride like Slow Mag instead of magneisum oxide. The only problem w/Slow Mag is that the dosage per pill is kind of low and you have to take several and there's not that many in a bottle, and it's kind of hard to find.
Hey Jackie - Yes, it's your fault because I goof off from work and now I have to work over the weekend!! LOL! And, it's my fault when you goof off from work! LOL! Seriously, you know I'm joking and just picking on you! Can't blame it on menopause, can we? Glad you're not stressing over your root canal either. Just ask for the laughing gas! Once it's done, you'll be glad and you find that it's really no big deal.
How did you know to take Magnesium and stuff like Dong Quai long time ago? Did someone clue you in? I never gave menopause a thought even. I figure I cruised thru my 30's and 40's w/o even PMS and thought menopause would be nothing. Boy! It was sure a rude awakening for me! By the way, ladies, esp. Maggie - get the book ""Before the Change" by Anne Louise Gittleman - she lists all the "peri-zappers" - which are all the vits/supplements to take for specific symptoms.
Well, girls, hope you all had a good 4th .... hope you all pigged out and enjoyed yourselves - you can go back on that diet tomorrow!! :D
hugs,
molly
Nice to see you here! Glad you found us! Hey, I didn't know you felt that bad - to the point like I did! You have been dealing with all this for 5 years? Geezzz! You are amazing! I couldn't even handle it for the short 5 months!
I still take Magnesium at bedtime. I started with 500mg/day and then 500mg/at bedtime. If you get stomach problems, try magnesium chloride like Slow Mag instead of magneisum oxide. The only problem w/Slow Mag is that the dosage per pill is kind of low and you have to take several and there's not that many in a bottle, and it's kind of hard to find.
Hey Jackie - Yes, it's your fault because I goof off from work and now I have to work over the weekend!! LOL! And, it's my fault when you goof off from work! LOL! Seriously, you know I'm joking and just picking on you! Can't blame it on menopause, can we? Glad you're not stressing over your root canal either. Just ask for the laughing gas! Once it's done, you'll be glad and you find that it's really no big deal.
How did you know to take Magnesium and stuff like Dong Quai long time ago? Did someone clue you in? I never gave menopause a thought even. I figure I cruised thru my 30's and 40's w/o even PMS and thought menopause would be nothing. Boy! It was sure a rude awakening for me! By the way, ladies, esp. Maggie - get the book ""Before the Change" by Anne Louise Gittleman - she lists all the "peri-zappers" - which are all the vits/supplements to take for specific symptoms.
Well, girls, hope you all had a good 4th .... hope you all pigged out and enjoyed yourselves - you can go back on that diet tomorrow!! :D
hugs,
molly
littlejmb
07-05-2005, 12:25 AM
Hi Molly,
I actually read the book about Perimenopause when I suspected that was what was happening to me when I hit about 45 or so. That's when I started skipping a period here and there. I've always been one to research things, and I read everything I could find on it. In that book, it told all the supplements to take, and that's where I saw you should take magnesium. I still think the reason I avoided some of the nasty symptoms is because I began taking all those before the symptoms got out of hand.
Hope RMC finds us, and Hellas too. It's kind of hard to write right now, it is storming outside and Ginger is sitting in my lap shaking like a leaf! :eek:
So - I'd better sign off for tonight. Hope everyone gets a good night sleep and just think - it's back to work tomorrow, YUCK!!! lol
hugs,
Jackie
I actually read the book about Perimenopause when I suspected that was what was happening to me when I hit about 45 or so. That's when I started skipping a period here and there. I've always been one to research things, and I read everything I could find on it. In that book, it told all the supplements to take, and that's where I saw you should take magnesium. I still think the reason I avoided some of the nasty symptoms is because I began taking all those before the symptoms got out of hand.
Hope RMC finds us, and Hellas too. It's kind of hard to write right now, it is storming outside and Ginger is sitting in my lap shaking like a leaf! :eek:
So - I'd better sign off for tonight. Hope everyone gets a good night sleep and just think - it's back to work tomorrow, YUCK!!! lol
hugs,
Jackie
rmc12
07-05-2005, 01:36 AM
Hi Jackie...
Thanks, Jackie, for starting this thread. I think it is a good idea to see how everyone on this board is coping and support each other. Have missed talking to you guys but do understand as we all do the rules and we can share what we are going thru at this time and sharing is very therapeutic I feel.
It is interesting to read your first post about when you started noticing symptoms. I too think it was around 45 for me too, but I did not skip periods as you did , I found my periods got closer together : instead of every 28 days, they came every 24 days. Two years ago I started with some spotting here and there, like at day 18 now and then , just like a brownish stain or tan. Then last year I started with the anxiety and stomach disturbances (gassier, more running to the bathroom now and then). I got a book called ThePause which explained each symptom and I realized I had quite a few and that the ones I had wer normal for this time. I also had nightsweats last year more so than this year. My period pretty much has stayed at a pattern of coming on day 24, or 23 except for a couple times in the past two years where it has come on day 40 and 50. This last one came on day 38. So I'd say I still have not experienced the way further apart periods yet. I have had no hot flashes at all and that was the only symptom I remember hearing about!!
I can so relate to the depression your sunk into. Last year when I started with the anxiety I was beside myself!! I was so worried too that something was seriously wrong with me even though my dr and gyn told me that was not the case. As you know they did perscribe Lexapro but I experienced nausea from it which at the time as a more of a nuisance than I could handle as I already had stomach problems due to peri. So I stopped it after a week. They did give me xanax which I took as needed and have this year when I needed to which has not been too often thankfully.
You mentioned the heart palps. I got those really around 45 and went for some tests and knew all was ok but no one ever told me it may have been the start of peri. Like Hopefully said, we were really not warned at all. It was just all about hot flashes and mood swings and there are so many other things women experience.
Like you it hit me worse right before I turned 50. Even though I had a relapse of sorts this year (same time frame...Feb/March/April) , it still was not as bad as last year that is for sure!!
I started my period like when I was 11 , was in 6th grade, so think I was that age then. So I don't know if it has any bearing as here I am still not skipping periods yet!!
You mentioned you are the type to research everyhing and took that approach to peri/menopause too. That is what I have done too. I was like that when I was getting my period too...reading all I could about it.
The anxiety I think is my worst symptom and also the stomach issues I had more so last year and that fed the anxiety even more. Some times the anxiety is worse than other times. Seems to be worse too at mid cycle , so this past week I was more anxious than I have been as I am at day 14 or something like that.
Today was , thankfully, relaxing day on a friend's boat and I am grateful that I do not go thru what others do with not being able to get out and be with people or be nervous in situations like that while in Peri. I have found if I do more socially my mind is off of it more and that helped even in the worst times I was having with it.
Well thanks again for starting this. It is therapeutic to share what we are feeling on this peri road. And therapeutic to know others are on the road too or have been and understand.
Hope Ginger has calmed down after the fireworks. I know a lot of dogs get very upset with them and that has to be hard.
Hope you had a great 4th of July weekend , Jackie!! Just think..it is a short work week!!
Hugs,
rmc
Thanks, Jackie, for starting this thread. I think it is a good idea to see how everyone on this board is coping and support each other. Have missed talking to you guys but do understand as we all do the rules and we can share what we are going thru at this time and sharing is very therapeutic I feel.
It is interesting to read your first post about when you started noticing symptoms. I too think it was around 45 for me too, but I did not skip periods as you did , I found my periods got closer together : instead of every 28 days, they came every 24 days. Two years ago I started with some spotting here and there, like at day 18 now and then , just like a brownish stain or tan. Then last year I started with the anxiety and stomach disturbances (gassier, more running to the bathroom now and then). I got a book called ThePause which explained each symptom and I realized I had quite a few and that the ones I had wer normal for this time. I also had nightsweats last year more so than this year. My period pretty much has stayed at a pattern of coming on day 24, or 23 except for a couple times in the past two years where it has come on day 40 and 50. This last one came on day 38. So I'd say I still have not experienced the way further apart periods yet. I have had no hot flashes at all and that was the only symptom I remember hearing about!!
I can so relate to the depression your sunk into. Last year when I started with the anxiety I was beside myself!! I was so worried too that something was seriously wrong with me even though my dr and gyn told me that was not the case. As you know they did perscribe Lexapro but I experienced nausea from it which at the time as a more of a nuisance than I could handle as I already had stomach problems due to peri. So I stopped it after a week. They did give me xanax which I took as needed and have this year when I needed to which has not been too often thankfully.
You mentioned the heart palps. I got those really around 45 and went for some tests and knew all was ok but no one ever told me it may have been the start of peri. Like Hopefully said, we were really not warned at all. It was just all about hot flashes and mood swings and there are so many other things women experience.
Like you it hit me worse right before I turned 50. Even though I had a relapse of sorts this year (same time frame...Feb/March/April) , it still was not as bad as last year that is for sure!!
I started my period like when I was 11 , was in 6th grade, so think I was that age then. So I don't know if it has any bearing as here I am still not skipping periods yet!!
You mentioned you are the type to research everyhing and took that approach to peri/menopause too. That is what I have done too. I was like that when I was getting my period too...reading all I could about it.
The anxiety I think is my worst symptom and also the stomach issues I had more so last year and that fed the anxiety even more. Some times the anxiety is worse than other times. Seems to be worse too at mid cycle , so this past week I was more anxious than I have been as I am at day 14 or something like that.
Today was , thankfully, relaxing day on a friend's boat and I am grateful that I do not go thru what others do with not being able to get out and be with people or be nervous in situations like that while in Peri. I have found if I do more socially my mind is off of it more and that helped even in the worst times I was having with it.
Well thanks again for starting this. It is therapeutic to share what we are feeling on this peri road. And therapeutic to know others are on the road too or have been and understand.
Hope Ginger has calmed down after the fireworks. I know a lot of dogs get very upset with them and that has to be hard.
Hope you had a great 4th of July weekend , Jackie!! Just think..it is a short work week!!
Hugs,
rmc
rmc12
07-05-2005, 02:05 AM
Hi Hopefully,
You did start so early on this peri road!! I started as I said above in my mid 40s (am 51 now). I have always had bad PMS but what hit me in peri with the anxiety, the fatigue you mentioned and for me...stomach distresses, night sweats, etc. were way worse than any PMS or a anything I had experienced. My gyn has said this time is like a long pms and I have found that to be true as it really i similar to PMS but maginifed and looonger!!
I am with you : why didn't someone warn us?!! I had only heard about hot flashes and moods not all the other 99 symptoms!!
I too take more vitamins now, flaxseed, soy, Tylenol for women when I am in a bad PMS state and as I said above xanax was given to me and I did take that as needed when it was all really bad. I did have a relapse this year and took it then as needed too.
I feel as you do this board has helped immensely in traveling this road and made me feel not so alone. A lot of my friends who are the same age are seeming to sail right thru it so it is helpful to know that there are others that do experience the same things.
Thanks for sharing,
rmc
You did start so early on this peri road!! I started as I said above in my mid 40s (am 51 now). I have always had bad PMS but what hit me in peri with the anxiety, the fatigue you mentioned and for me...stomach distresses, night sweats, etc. were way worse than any PMS or a anything I had experienced. My gyn has said this time is like a long pms and I have found that to be true as it really i similar to PMS but maginifed and looonger!!
I am with you : why didn't someone warn us?!! I had only heard about hot flashes and moods not all the other 99 symptoms!!
I too take more vitamins now, flaxseed, soy, Tylenol for women when I am in a bad PMS state and as I said above xanax was given to me and I did take that as needed when it was all really bad. I did have a relapse this year and took it then as needed too.
I feel as you do this board has helped immensely in traveling this road and made me feel not so alone. A lot of my friends who are the same age are seeming to sail right thru it so it is helpful to know that there are others that do experience the same things.
Thanks for sharing,
rmc
rmc12
07-05-2005, 02:42 AM
Hi Molly,
Good to "see" you!! :wave:
Yes, you have made your 1 year mark!! Good for you!!. Has to feel good!!
It sounds like you did first start noticing some changes in your late 40s as far as irregular periods which I did too. It always amazes me though to read how suddenly your symptoms came on you, and from nowhere it seems. I am sure this made it even more hard to take!! And I am sure all the dr. appts you had to go thru did not help the anxiety issue!! As I told you in a recent thread that Flyerfan started...just hearing my gyn's voice on the phone when she called to give me my cholesterol results made me nervous..just her voice alone!! Lol!! So I can't imagine dealing with all the appts you had feeling as you did then.
It is so great that the Paxil helped you immediately. For some reason I thought you had to try some other medications first before finding something that helped. Again it is so wonderful that you found something to help you with the bad time you were having.
You said in your post that "it seems like you have to go through your worse before it gets better! "....boy I hope my worst was last year!! I know I had a relapse this year (as you know as you helped me thru it!!) but as bad as it was it was not as bad as last year and I can only HOPE that I am closer to the point of menopause soon!!
I too do not have friends that are going thru the same things. None of them experience the aches that I have talked about (on the right side) and very few have the longer pms. Do not understand why some people have a worse time than others. My cousin stopped when she was 50 (she is 2 years older than me) and when I talk to her about this all (which I don't often!! LOL!!) she just cannot relate and looks at me like I am making a mountain out of a molehill. Her attitude is "well, I didn't have any of that", almost like I am making it all up!! LOL!! I have another cousin who is 58 now and hers stopped at 53. She did go thru a lot in her late 40s and I remember her talking about it. She seems to have just forgotten it now and calls the whole process " a beautiful experience!!" (her feeliing is the whole thing is remarkable as far as the changes!!) I always ask her "have I got to the beautiful part yet????!!! " I don't think so!! LOL!!
Hope you had a good 4th of July weekend!! I did go to the beach as you mentioned but we were there on Sat and had a really nice and relaxing day. Today we were on the water on a friend's boat, also very relaxing. Hope you got lots done on your scrapbooks...they are so much fun aren't they? The Kiwi calendar sounds very cute!!
I see other posts that some others have left in this thread, which I want to post and comment on , but I am so beat think I better call it a day. I am noticing that at mid cycle which I am at right now (I know I should not be counting!! LOL!!) I am more tired. Then I have a surge of energy it seems!!
Anyway, so good to see your name in there. Have a good day tomorrow!!
Hugs to you!!
rmc
Good to "see" you!! :wave:
Yes, you have made your 1 year mark!! Good for you!!. Has to feel good!!
It sounds like you did first start noticing some changes in your late 40s as far as irregular periods which I did too. It always amazes me though to read how suddenly your symptoms came on you, and from nowhere it seems. I am sure this made it even more hard to take!! And I am sure all the dr. appts you had to go thru did not help the anxiety issue!! As I told you in a recent thread that Flyerfan started...just hearing my gyn's voice on the phone when she called to give me my cholesterol results made me nervous..just her voice alone!! Lol!! So I can't imagine dealing with all the appts you had feeling as you did then.
It is so great that the Paxil helped you immediately. For some reason I thought you had to try some other medications first before finding something that helped. Again it is so wonderful that you found something to help you with the bad time you were having.
You said in your post that "it seems like you have to go through your worse before it gets better! "....boy I hope my worst was last year!! I know I had a relapse this year (as you know as you helped me thru it!!) but as bad as it was it was not as bad as last year and I can only HOPE that I am closer to the point of menopause soon!!
I too do not have friends that are going thru the same things. None of them experience the aches that I have talked about (on the right side) and very few have the longer pms. Do not understand why some people have a worse time than others. My cousin stopped when she was 50 (she is 2 years older than me) and when I talk to her about this all (which I don't often!! LOL!!) she just cannot relate and looks at me like I am making a mountain out of a molehill. Her attitude is "well, I didn't have any of that", almost like I am making it all up!! LOL!! I have another cousin who is 58 now and hers stopped at 53. She did go thru a lot in her late 40s and I remember her talking about it. She seems to have just forgotten it now and calls the whole process " a beautiful experience!!" (her feeliing is the whole thing is remarkable as far as the changes!!) I always ask her "have I got to the beautiful part yet????!!! " I don't think so!! LOL!!
Hope you had a good 4th of July weekend!! I did go to the beach as you mentioned but we were there on Sat and had a really nice and relaxing day. Today we were on the water on a friend's boat, also very relaxing. Hope you got lots done on your scrapbooks...they are so much fun aren't they? The Kiwi calendar sounds very cute!!
I see other posts that some others have left in this thread, which I want to post and comment on , but I am so beat think I better call it a day. I am noticing that at mid cycle which I am at right now (I know I should not be counting!! LOL!!) I am more tired. Then I have a surge of energy it seems!!
Anyway, so good to see your name in there. Have a good day tomorrow!!
Hugs to you!!
rmc
littlejmb
07-05-2005, 10:10 AM
Hi RMC, glad you found us!
So you're the one that started their period early like me! I was thinking it was Molly, but she said no - so now I know it was you. Just think, we were cursed with this for several years longer than some of our freinds. Not fair, is it?
I guess I was really lucky that my periods got further apart rather than like some women that start having two in one month, or go for days and days and flood! Only once or twice did I have one at day 20. I always had a 25 day cycle - regular as clockwork! The first time I skipped mine, it sent me on a tailspin thinking I might be pregnant!! lol I had my tubes tied back in 1987, so that was highly unlikely, but still it made me wonder. That's when I started reading up on Peri, and I started taking Dong Quai. That is a wonderful herb for any kind of female problems. I would strongly recommend it for everyone.
I am glad that you had a good weekend. Did you find out where in Tennessee that you friend lived? We just stayed home and I did some housework, and then I cooked us hamburgers, oven fries, and baked beans. I ate non-stop Sunday, my stomach was irritated and when it's like that, I feel like I am starving, but I can eat and eat and still feel like that. Finally it quit hurting. You mentioned gas - wowee- in the last two years, it has really been bad for me. I had one year (about two or three years ago) and it seemed like I had diahrrea a whole lot. That finally stopped after several months tho. Now I'm thinking that was Peri also.
Well - it's time to get to work - so.....
Toodles for now! Catch back up with ya later, and have a wonderful day! (Hope the anxiety gets better, I know how bad that can be!)
Jackie :)
So you're the one that started their period early like me! I was thinking it was Molly, but she said no - so now I know it was you. Just think, we were cursed with this for several years longer than some of our freinds. Not fair, is it?
I guess I was really lucky that my periods got further apart rather than like some women that start having two in one month, or go for days and days and flood! Only once or twice did I have one at day 20. I always had a 25 day cycle - regular as clockwork! The first time I skipped mine, it sent me on a tailspin thinking I might be pregnant!! lol I had my tubes tied back in 1987, so that was highly unlikely, but still it made me wonder. That's when I started reading up on Peri, and I started taking Dong Quai. That is a wonderful herb for any kind of female problems. I would strongly recommend it for everyone.
I am glad that you had a good weekend. Did you find out where in Tennessee that you friend lived? We just stayed home and I did some housework, and then I cooked us hamburgers, oven fries, and baked beans. I ate non-stop Sunday, my stomach was irritated and when it's like that, I feel like I am starving, but I can eat and eat and still feel like that. Finally it quit hurting. You mentioned gas - wowee- in the last two years, it has really been bad for me. I had one year (about two or three years ago) and it seemed like I had diahrrea a whole lot. That finally stopped after several months tho. Now I'm thinking that was Peri also.
Well - it's time to get to work - so.....
Toodles for now! Catch back up with ya later, and have a wonderful day! (Hope the anxiety gets better, I know how bad that can be!)
Jackie :)
joyka
07-05-2005, 10:42 AM
What is Lexapro? I have never heard of it.
littlejmb
07-05-2005, 12:38 PM
Hi Joyka,
Lexapro is a SSRI antidepressant. Alot of GYN's are prescribing that and Paxil for women going thru menopause to help with the emotional aspects, like depression and anxiety. But - it has taken care of the hot flashes and night sweats for me too! :bouncing:
Lexapro is a SSRI antidepressant. Alot of GYN's are prescribing that and Paxil for women going thru menopause to help with the emotional aspects, like depression and anxiety. But - it has taken care of the hot flashes and night sweats for me too! :bouncing:
alwaysaworrier
07-05-2005, 01:39 PM
Hi everybody -
Thank you all so much for the helpful responses. I am just after getting some magnesium and I will stick with it this time (last time I stopped after 1 month!) and hopefully it will help me. It has been great to hear that some of you have these "head sensations" etc, it has relieved me so much. I will get back and let you know how the magnesium works for me - it probably will take time before I will notice an improvement!
littlejmb - thanks for starting this thread and for including the infor on the supplements and what they are good for.
Again, thanks Molly, Amy, Jackie - you are fantastic ladies :angel:
Thank you all so much for the helpful responses. I am just after getting some magnesium and I will stick with it this time (last time I stopped after 1 month!) and hopefully it will help me. It has been great to hear that some of you have these "head sensations" etc, it has relieved me so much. I will get back and let you know how the magnesium works for me - it probably will take time before I will notice an improvement!
littlejmb - thanks for starting this thread and for including the infor on the supplements and what they are good for.
Again, thanks Molly, Amy, Jackie - you are fantastic ladies :angel:
littlejmb
07-05-2005, 02:55 PM
Maggie, I am so glad that we have been of some help to you! I only wish that I had known about these boards when I was going thru some of my worst symptoms. I only found out about them when I was searching the net for info on Lexapro in March. Since that time, I have found that some of the weird things I was going thru were menopause related and I didn't have any idea! Hang in there with the Magnesium, and if you can get some Dong Quai - try that too. I swear by it!
Also - my motherinlaw's name was Maggie, and she was a wonderful person. Also our little god daughter's name is Maggie (named after my motherinlaw). That's a special name! :)
Keep us up to date on your progress, and hang in there, it's going to be rough, but you will make it.
Jackie
Also - my motherinlaw's name was Maggie, and she was a wonderful person. Also our little god daughter's name is Maggie (named after my motherinlaw). That's a special name! :)
Keep us up to date on your progress, and hang in there, it's going to be rough, but you will make it.
Jackie
rmc12
07-05-2005, 04:16 PM
Hi Jackie,
Well this thread has now become very timely for me this week as far as coping as guess what : I got my period today at day 18!! Last one was at day 38 as I mentioned. NOW I know why I was feeling so anxious and low this weekend and even got that one sided sinus headache I sometimes get before my period!! I have got it at day 18 before once or twice in the past 3 years I think, but it has been ages. So it was needless to say a surprise. Luckily I carry a tampon with me at all times. I am thinking it is a period, although I know I have had spotting at times and then will get it a week later , again that has only happened a couple times and a few years ago at that. It sure looks and acts like one so that is what I am thinking it is.
SO..how am I coping today??? not so well!! LOL!! I just hate when it comes as a surprise like that and then of course one wonders what is going on and shouldn't I be getting them further apart??? But I do know there are women on here who have had them closer together too at times and I am one of them. But when it has not happened in a long while of course one gets a bit stressed with it.
Also there is this feeling that when they come closer together like this that menopause is not around the corner for me. I know there are some women on here who stopped having periods in their later 50s and I just was hoping that it would be sooner for me. Really I wouldn't mind if I didn't have any symptoms but that is not always the case of course. Just was I guess disappointed to see it this morning!!
Yes I am the one that got my first period at a younger age...and no it is not fair!! LOL!!
In your post you are saying you did have a couple at day 20 so I know it is normal and I have had them that way too, just has been awhile as I said.
Thanks for mentioning you had the gas and diahrrea too on and off, as I had that also and I know others do too and will find it helpful I am sure.
You know I have been taking a lot more soy in different forms : more soy milk the past few weeks, soy bars and such and I am wondering if that has an effect on us as far as getting our periods? I know soy is supposed to have an estrogen like quality for us all and be good for us but I just noitce when I do increase my intake of it I do have some more "problems" whether it be an earlier period or stomach issues, whatever. Don't know if there is any correlation.
Glad you had a good weekend. All your 4th of July goodies sounded good and it is good to treat oneself like that at times I think. I did find out that the friend we have is from Crossville by the way. It didn't sound like it was near Memphis. Don't know her that well. It was a very nice day on the boat weather wise and the sun felt good.
Thanks for your kind thoughts about the anxiety..now I know why it was worse this previous week as I said. We are going on vacation to Las Vegas for our anniversary on Sunday for a few days and I am hoping this period is not going to be a long one. Guess I should be glad it did not happen when we are away although with peri who knows...it may!!
When are you going to the dentist again? Hope that you are doing okay with your tooth.
Hope your day is going well.
Take care,
rmc
Well this thread has now become very timely for me this week as far as coping as guess what : I got my period today at day 18!! Last one was at day 38 as I mentioned. NOW I know why I was feeling so anxious and low this weekend and even got that one sided sinus headache I sometimes get before my period!! I have got it at day 18 before once or twice in the past 3 years I think, but it has been ages. So it was needless to say a surprise. Luckily I carry a tampon with me at all times. I am thinking it is a period, although I know I have had spotting at times and then will get it a week later , again that has only happened a couple times and a few years ago at that. It sure looks and acts like one so that is what I am thinking it is.
SO..how am I coping today??? not so well!! LOL!! I just hate when it comes as a surprise like that and then of course one wonders what is going on and shouldn't I be getting them further apart??? But I do know there are women on here who have had them closer together too at times and I am one of them. But when it has not happened in a long while of course one gets a bit stressed with it.
Also there is this feeling that when they come closer together like this that menopause is not around the corner for me. I know there are some women on here who stopped having periods in their later 50s and I just was hoping that it would be sooner for me. Really I wouldn't mind if I didn't have any symptoms but that is not always the case of course. Just was I guess disappointed to see it this morning!!
Yes I am the one that got my first period at a younger age...and no it is not fair!! LOL!!
In your post you are saying you did have a couple at day 20 so I know it is normal and I have had them that way too, just has been awhile as I said.
Thanks for mentioning you had the gas and diahrrea too on and off, as I had that also and I know others do too and will find it helpful I am sure.
You know I have been taking a lot more soy in different forms : more soy milk the past few weeks, soy bars and such and I am wondering if that has an effect on us as far as getting our periods? I know soy is supposed to have an estrogen like quality for us all and be good for us but I just noitce when I do increase my intake of it I do have some more "problems" whether it be an earlier period or stomach issues, whatever. Don't know if there is any correlation.
Glad you had a good weekend. All your 4th of July goodies sounded good and it is good to treat oneself like that at times I think. I did find out that the friend we have is from Crossville by the way. It didn't sound like it was near Memphis. Don't know her that well. It was a very nice day on the boat weather wise and the sun felt good.
Thanks for your kind thoughts about the anxiety..now I know why it was worse this previous week as I said. We are going on vacation to Las Vegas for our anniversary on Sunday for a few days and I am hoping this period is not going to be a long one. Guess I should be glad it did not happen when we are away although with peri who knows...it may!!
When are you going to the dentist again? Hope that you are doing okay with your tooth.
Hope your day is going well.
Take care,
rmc
rmc12
07-05-2005, 04:32 PM
Hi Maggie,
I am so sorry to hear that you have been dealing with symtpoms 10 years ago!! I as you probably read have been experiencing them since my mid 40s but you know there may have been things that were happening a bit earlier and I just did not attribute them to peri. (don't think I even knew the word in my late 30s or early 40s!!)
The head sensations, or wave or fuzziness is something I have experienced also and do at times still. When it has happened I sometimes feel drained. My blood pressure is fine and has always been more on the lower side. I do get where my ears are plugged and a full feeling like that and have associated the two.
Your pattern of periods sound very much like mine. I too was always a "28 day girl" as you were and then started with some coming at day 23 or 24 and then a couple at day 18 or 19 but over the past 3 years they have been in the early 20 range, and then some at day 40 and day 50. This year mainly in the 20s, then last one was day 38 and now I got it today at day 18!! Not happy to see that as I was hoping it would start becoming further apart. My gyn said that normally it is a case of having it further and further apart, but she also has said some women start getting them closer together and then they just stop. guess it is unpredictable and the only thing to expect is the unexpected with peri !!
I too do not have friends that I know that are going thru the same things. They are either not there yet, or through it and just had hot flashes (I have not had a one!!) or they are sailing thru it fine or just tired at times. So for me this board has been very helpful too to know I am not alone.
I take Vitamin B, flaxseed, a multi vitamin, Calcium but have not taken the magnesium. Perhaps I should.
Anyway, just wanted to say hi as we seem to have similar patterns with our cycle and also wanted you to know I feel the same spaciness or fuzziness at times, hard to describe for sure!!
Take care,
rmc
I am so sorry to hear that you have been dealing with symtpoms 10 years ago!! I as you probably read have been experiencing them since my mid 40s but you know there may have been things that were happening a bit earlier and I just did not attribute them to peri. (don't think I even knew the word in my late 30s or early 40s!!)
The head sensations, or wave or fuzziness is something I have experienced also and do at times still. When it has happened I sometimes feel drained. My blood pressure is fine and has always been more on the lower side. I do get where my ears are plugged and a full feeling like that and have associated the two.
Your pattern of periods sound very much like mine. I too was always a "28 day girl" as you were and then started with some coming at day 23 or 24 and then a couple at day 18 or 19 but over the past 3 years they have been in the early 20 range, and then some at day 40 and day 50. This year mainly in the 20s, then last one was day 38 and now I got it today at day 18!! Not happy to see that as I was hoping it would start becoming further apart. My gyn said that normally it is a case of having it further and further apart, but she also has said some women start getting them closer together and then they just stop. guess it is unpredictable and the only thing to expect is the unexpected with peri !!
I too do not have friends that I know that are going thru the same things. They are either not there yet, or through it and just had hot flashes (I have not had a one!!) or they are sailing thru it fine or just tired at times. So for me this board has been very helpful too to know I am not alone.
I take Vitamin B, flaxseed, a multi vitamin, Calcium but have not taken the magnesium. Perhaps I should.
Anyway, just wanted to say hi as we seem to have similar patterns with our cycle and also wanted you to know I feel the same spaciness or fuzziness at times, hard to describe for sure!!
Take care,
rmc
rmc12
07-05-2005, 04:44 PM
Hi Amy,
Good to see you!! How are you doing lately with the peri symptoms?
I do not take magnesium either and so your question about it affecting your stomach would also be one I would have asked as I do not tolerate pills too well. So thanks for asking that as it was a question that helped me also.
You know now that you mention it that vague, spacey , fuzzy head feeling sometimes does come at ovulation for me if I do get it.
You said your period history was similar to Maggie's and mine is similar to hers also so seems like we are all in the same "peri boat" so to speak!! Refresh my memory on how old you are again? I am 51 and have been having peri symtpoms in the way of I noticed the irregularities with my periods (them coming closer together) in my mid to late 40s. The stomach things, the nightsweats, the anxiety all happened when I turned 50. This year it is less as far as those symptoms although the anxiety does take over at times. As you said the peri anxiety and aches etc. seem to be magnified to the tenth power!!
I had my last period at day 38 and now today find that I got it at day 18!! have you experienced that too?? I know I have in the past but it has been awhile ago that it has happened so when it does come like this of course one is a bit startled.
I can't tell you how much it means to know that others like yourself also experience the same things...not that I am happy you too are going thru this ...wish you weren't...but it makes it seem like we are all not alone and as you said will get thru it all together!!
Glad to hear your husband is doing well after his tooth surgery.
Hope your 4th of July weekend was a very happy one!!
Take care,
rmc
Good to see you!! How are you doing lately with the peri symptoms?
I do not take magnesium either and so your question about it affecting your stomach would also be one I would have asked as I do not tolerate pills too well. So thanks for asking that as it was a question that helped me also.
You know now that you mention it that vague, spacey , fuzzy head feeling sometimes does come at ovulation for me if I do get it.
You said your period history was similar to Maggie's and mine is similar to hers also so seems like we are all in the same "peri boat" so to speak!! Refresh my memory on how old you are again? I am 51 and have been having peri symtpoms in the way of I noticed the irregularities with my periods (them coming closer together) in my mid to late 40s. The stomach things, the nightsweats, the anxiety all happened when I turned 50. This year it is less as far as those symptoms although the anxiety does take over at times. As you said the peri anxiety and aches etc. seem to be magnified to the tenth power!!
I had my last period at day 38 and now today find that I got it at day 18!! have you experienced that too?? I know I have in the past but it has been awhile ago that it has happened so when it does come like this of course one is a bit startled.
I can't tell you how much it means to know that others like yourself also experience the same things...not that I am happy you too are going thru this ...wish you weren't...but it makes it seem like we are all not alone and as you said will get thru it all together!!
Glad to hear your husband is doing well after his tooth surgery.
Hope your 4th of July weekend was a very happy one!!
Take care,
rmc
rmc12
07-05-2005, 05:00 PM
Hi Molly,
I left you a post last night on here so don't mean to flood you with more messages but wanted to add a PS to it as today I got my period at day 18!! You may have read it in posts after the one I left you last night.
So guess I was not at Mid cycle as I said to you in that post earlier in here!! LOL!! I also said to you :
" I can only HOPE that I am closer to the point of menopause soon!! ", well you know, Molly, today I do not feel that is the case!! How can I get one at day 18 if this peri-nonsense is going to end soon!! Guess that is not happening yet!! I am disappointed.
I do not want to stress about this as I know in the history of my perimenopause time I have had this happen but it has been awhile so of course I was taken aback when I saw it this morning!! Glad I had a tampon on me!!
I mentioned something in a note to Jackie about the Soy and I wanted to run that by you too as I know you faithfully take it. I am begining to wonder if when I take more of it I have more symptoms or more irregularities? I have increased my intake of it and have noticed this cycle is not as good as the cycle before. Just pondering it, I don't know if there is a connection. I think I tend to look for answers that are simply not there!!
Now of course I am worried that when we go away on Sunday I will be dealing with peri junk!! I hope not (we are going for a few days to Las Vegas for our anniversary and have so been looking forward to it!!)
No wonder I have been feeling so tired and bloated since my period came early. OH, that brings me to another question for you (again sorry that I am leaving two notes for you in here but since last night I wanted to mention what happened this morning with my period, etc). The question is about the Slim series you use. Did you find it helped with your hips and thighs too? I am going to be getting some dvds for toning and was looking at them.
Thanks again for your help. Hope you had a good start to the week and you and little Kiwi are doing well.
Take care,
rmc
I left you a post last night on here so don't mean to flood you with more messages but wanted to add a PS to it as today I got my period at day 18!! You may have read it in posts after the one I left you last night.
So guess I was not at Mid cycle as I said to you in that post earlier in here!! LOL!! I also said to you :
" I can only HOPE that I am closer to the point of menopause soon!! ", well you know, Molly, today I do not feel that is the case!! How can I get one at day 18 if this peri-nonsense is going to end soon!! Guess that is not happening yet!! I am disappointed.
I do not want to stress about this as I know in the history of my perimenopause time I have had this happen but it has been awhile so of course I was taken aback when I saw it this morning!! Glad I had a tampon on me!!
I mentioned something in a note to Jackie about the Soy and I wanted to run that by you too as I know you faithfully take it. I am begining to wonder if when I take more of it I have more symptoms or more irregularities? I have increased my intake of it and have noticed this cycle is not as good as the cycle before. Just pondering it, I don't know if there is a connection. I think I tend to look for answers that are simply not there!!
Now of course I am worried that when we go away on Sunday I will be dealing with peri junk!! I hope not (we are going for a few days to Las Vegas for our anniversary and have so been looking forward to it!!)
No wonder I have been feeling so tired and bloated since my period came early. OH, that brings me to another question for you (again sorry that I am leaving two notes for you in here but since last night I wanted to mention what happened this morning with my period, etc). The question is about the Slim series you use. Did you find it helped with your hips and thighs too? I am going to be getting some dvds for toning and was looking at them.
Thanks again for your help. Hope you had a good start to the week and you and little Kiwi are doing well.
Take care,
rmc
littlejmb
07-05-2005, 06:38 PM
Hi Roxanne, I decided to take a quick break before I go home from work. Lordy - you've been busy posting haven't you, lol.
Goodness - you started again? You know what, I remember that when I would have late ones, it seemed like I would have an extra early period the next time. Maybe it was even as early as day 18. I remember that kind of freaked me out, but I thought that maybe my body was trying to readjust it self. Sounds reasonable, doesn't it?
As far as the soy - I remember trying it for a time, and it made me have hot flashes really bad, so I quit taking it. I thought it was really weird, because I thought it was supposed to prevent them! I thought, well to heck with this!
Maybe you will get this period out of your way and you will be fine next week for your trip. I just bet that will be the case! I just know that every thing will work out and you will be feeling great and be able to enjoy it. :)
Well, got to go to Walmart when I get off. Got up this morning to make coffee and the storm last night had caused our power to go off twice, and I think a power surge zapped our coffee pot. This is major - can't do without that, lol. Hubby improvised and boiled some water and set the basket over the canister and poured the hot water through it and "brewed" us some, lol. At least we had some coffee!! lol
Now it's raining cats and dogs out there and it's almost time to go home. Driving in the rain makes me extremely nervous, so I hope it slacks up before I get out in it!!
Hope you have a lovely evening :)
Jackie B
PS - I've never heard of that city in Tennessee, not sure where it is.
Goodness - you started again? You know what, I remember that when I would have late ones, it seemed like I would have an extra early period the next time. Maybe it was even as early as day 18. I remember that kind of freaked me out, but I thought that maybe my body was trying to readjust it self. Sounds reasonable, doesn't it?
As far as the soy - I remember trying it for a time, and it made me have hot flashes really bad, so I quit taking it. I thought it was really weird, because I thought it was supposed to prevent them! I thought, well to heck with this!
Maybe you will get this period out of your way and you will be fine next week for your trip. I just bet that will be the case! I just know that every thing will work out and you will be feeling great and be able to enjoy it. :)
Well, got to go to Walmart when I get off. Got up this morning to make coffee and the storm last night had caused our power to go off twice, and I think a power surge zapped our coffee pot. This is major - can't do without that, lol. Hubby improvised and boiled some water and set the basket over the canister and poured the hot water through it and "brewed" us some, lol. At least we had some coffee!! lol
Now it's raining cats and dogs out there and it's almost time to go home. Driving in the rain makes me extremely nervous, so I hope it slacks up before I get out in it!!
Hope you have a lovely evening :)
Jackie B
PS - I've never heard of that city in Tennessee, not sure where it is.
littlejmb
07-05-2005, 06:42 PM
Oops - I forgot - I go to the Dentist next Monday to start the root canal. I was very apprehensive about my dentist doing it rather than an endodontist, but I call and talked to my hygenist this morning, and she put my mind at ease. I won't worry about it till next Monday. Get my hubby to drive me, take a Xanax, and I should be ok!
Little Amy
07-05-2005, 08:00 PM
rmc:
You asked my age - I'm turning 45 in August, but definitely started into all this at age 39. Depression, and MAJOR panic attacks started my "nightmare" called peri! Then at age 42 I got so ill, stomach problems, sever diarrhea, back and side just killing me, that I ended up having my gall bladder out. Lost 30 pounds being so sick, and then the weird "bees in my head" sensation started, heart palps., dizziness, cried absolutely all the time, couldn't watch anything sad, no news, no music, etc. And slowly after I turned 43, the symptoms would come and go in cycles as we have all talked about. Periods are erratic like yours, had the 45 days in between, then the 18 days in between, internal shakes, chilled to the bone, frozen feet and hands, an occasional hot flash - it has just really been a party!!
So - hopefully you will have ended your period before you head to Vegas! I bet it's over in a couple of days. Take care of yourself, we are in this together!
I'm so glad to get responses from the other new ladies I've seen post. This place is just a Godsend!!
Amy
You asked my age - I'm turning 45 in August, but definitely started into all this at age 39. Depression, and MAJOR panic attacks started my "nightmare" called peri! Then at age 42 I got so ill, stomach problems, sever diarrhea, back and side just killing me, that I ended up having my gall bladder out. Lost 30 pounds being so sick, and then the weird "bees in my head" sensation started, heart palps., dizziness, cried absolutely all the time, couldn't watch anything sad, no news, no music, etc. And slowly after I turned 43, the symptoms would come and go in cycles as we have all talked about. Periods are erratic like yours, had the 45 days in between, then the 18 days in between, internal shakes, chilled to the bone, frozen feet and hands, an occasional hot flash - it has just really been a party!!
So - hopefully you will have ended your period before you head to Vegas! I bet it's over in a couple of days. Take care of yourself, we are in this together!
I'm so glad to get responses from the other new ladies I've seen post. This place is just a Godsend!!
Amy
Hopefully
07-05-2005, 08:39 PM
Little Amy you just wrote my testimony...my goodness we have so much in common. I started experiencing symptoms around the age of 38, but things REALLY took a nose dive in August 2002, three months before I turned 42. I did not have my gallbladder removed, but everything else (Lost 30 pounds being so sick, and then the weird "bees in my head" sensation started, heart palps., dizziness, cried absolutely all the time, couldn't watch anything sad, no news, no music, etc.) describes me.
I don't know if you are taking anything, but bcp, antidepressant, and bp medication has helped me to function...plus a truck load of vitamins. I'm not symptom free, oh I wish that I was, but I'm functional. I try to think positive so I must say that I'm closer to the end of this rollercoaster ride than I was 3 years ago.
I don't know if you are taking anything, but bcp, antidepressant, and bp medication has helped me to function...plus a truck load of vitamins. I'm not symptom free, oh I wish that I was, but I'm functional. I try to think positive so I must say that I'm closer to the end of this rollercoaster ride than I was 3 years ago.
Little Amy
07-05-2005, 09:05 PM
Hopefully:
I'm SO glad you posted!!! What do you mean by "bcp" and "bp"? I cannot take any antidepressants (don't react well at all). Did Xanax for a year, and am now doing accupuncture which got me off the Xanax and feeling MUCH, MUCH better. I still have some yucky symptoms though. The past few days it feels like I CANNOT breathe, and for the past few years I've had some pretty severe nosebleeds, that I am all hoping has been a part of the peri. and will go away as well. I'd never had a nosebleed in my life until about 4 years ago, and boom, there they were! And some have sent me to the emergency room - I've been cauterized 4 times, and use saline solution in my nose about 10 times a day now to keep it moisturized. Do you ever get awakened from your heart palpitations or a weird arrhythmia that you sense in your head? I'd love to know your other symptoms since we have had such similarities!
Thanks again for posting!
Amy
I'm SO glad you posted!!! What do you mean by "bcp" and "bp"? I cannot take any antidepressants (don't react well at all). Did Xanax for a year, and am now doing accupuncture which got me off the Xanax and feeling MUCH, MUCH better. I still have some yucky symptoms though. The past few days it feels like I CANNOT breathe, and for the past few years I've had some pretty severe nosebleeds, that I am all hoping has been a part of the peri. and will go away as well. I'd never had a nosebleed in my life until about 4 years ago, and boom, there they were! And some have sent me to the emergency room - I've been cauterized 4 times, and use saline solution in my nose about 10 times a day now to keep it moisturized. Do you ever get awakened from your heart palpitations or a weird arrhythmia that you sense in your head? I'd love to know your other symptoms since we have had such similarities!
Thanks again for posting!
Amy
littlejmb
07-05-2005, 10:05 PM
Hi Amy,
I'm curious - what did you mean about "bees in your head"? I can't imagine how this feels. I felt like RMC did, and sometimes still do that that weird sensation starts in my head and feels like a band squeezing tightly around my head and feel spacey. Then I feel like I can't hold my head up and I fall asleep for a bit and when I awaken I feel so horrible. Like someone drained every ounce of energy I had out of me. I haven't done it that bad since I started on Lexapro, but there were some days that all I could do is just lay on the couch until time to go to bed - I felt that drained and bad. I started worrying that something really bad was wrong with me! I had described this to my mom, but neither of us associated it with peri. She didn't have nearly the problems that I had, and I don't know why???
Jackie
I'm curious - what did you mean about "bees in your head"? I can't imagine how this feels. I felt like RMC did, and sometimes still do that that weird sensation starts in my head and feels like a band squeezing tightly around my head and feel spacey. Then I feel like I can't hold my head up and I fall asleep for a bit and when I awaken I feel so horrible. Like someone drained every ounce of energy I had out of me. I haven't done it that bad since I started on Lexapro, but there were some days that all I could do is just lay on the couch until time to go to bed - I felt that drained and bad. I started worrying that something really bad was wrong with me! I had described this to my mom, but neither of us associated it with peri. She didn't have nearly the problems that I had, and I don't know why???
Jackie
Little Amy
07-05-2005, 10:22 PM
Jackie:
The best way I can describe the "bees in my head" sensation is like my brain is having the internal shakes, or my brain is buzzing. I don't have it as bad as I used to and it usually only bothers me now during ovulation and right before I start my period. Sometimes I'll having a squeezing sensation like you described or like someone is pushing on my head in the back of my head, it's very weird. My mom didn't have these troubles either, so like you I'm not sure what the deal is. I noticed someone posted something about low blood pressure and a feeling of fullness in the ears....just wondering because I've always had low blood pressure too and have had the full feeling in my ears as well. This is just ALL WAY TOO CRAZY!!!!
Amy
The best way I can describe the "bees in my head" sensation is like my brain is having the internal shakes, or my brain is buzzing. I don't have it as bad as I used to and it usually only bothers me now during ovulation and right before I start my period. Sometimes I'll having a squeezing sensation like you described or like someone is pushing on my head in the back of my head, it's very weird. My mom didn't have these troubles either, so like you I'm not sure what the deal is. I noticed someone posted something about low blood pressure and a feeling of fullness in the ears....just wondering because I've always had low blood pressure too and have had the full feeling in my ears as well. This is just ALL WAY TOO CRAZY!!!!
Amy
littlejmb
07-05-2005, 10:43 PM
Amy, I don't recall my head feeling like that, but you know, I'm bad about not really paying attention to alot of things that happen to me, unless it becomes worrisome. Sometimes I'd feel like bugs crawling on my head, or parts of my body. I'd look down and think a spider or something was crawling on me and there wouldn't be anything there. One of the most worrisome things is that stabbing pain that I would have in my ovary area on my right side that would last for days at a time. The last time it did it was a couple of months ago. It would only hurt for a second or two, and then it would do it again awhile later. It really hurt though! Another thing that really bothers me is that I feel like I've lost my brain somewhere and I can't find it!!! I wish someone would find it and bring it back to me :) lol
Jackie
Jackie
littlejmb
07-05-2005, 10:44 PM
Oh Amy, I (think) bcp means birth control pills, and bp is blood pressure meds. (Hopefully, correct me if I am wrong on this!)
Little Amy
07-05-2005, 11:40 PM
Jackie,
I would also LOVE to find where my brain went as well, it has vacated my head and just left a big windy cavern....!!! Thanks for deciphering the bcp and bp for me.
Amy
I would also LOVE to find where my brain went as well, it has vacated my head and just left a big windy cavern....!!! Thanks for deciphering the bcp and bp for me.
Amy
littlejmb
07-06-2005, 12:01 AM
Amy, maybe that buzzing in your head is your shrunken brain bouncing around in there, hee hee :) (sorry, I just had to make a joke of it, too good to pass up!)
Hey, I think we lost Hellas - we haven't seen her on here yet. I was thinking - if we hear of the Boston strangler resurfacing - it might just be Hellas!!!! ha ha
Hey, I think we lost Hellas - we haven't seen her on here yet. I was thinking - if we hear of the Boston strangler resurfacing - it might just be Hellas!!!! ha ha
rmc12
07-06-2005, 02:44 AM
Hi Jackie,
I am just seeing your post and saw one in the other thread on weight gain. Thank you for your kind words there, yes I am having a low day today!! I think I was just a bit surprised with the period coming today so soon and also I think this is just a tougher cycle than last time hormonally and have not had one of those for awhile!! How soon I forget!! LOL!!
Yes, you are right with it coming this soon it is out of the way and will not be a bother for our trip. Thing is that it is a bother now as far as mood wise and I have a lot to do to get ready for the trip. When I am low like this physically and emotionally it is hard to get it all done or think of doing it!!
You mentioned a stabbing pain in the ovary or right side near your ovary. I have had that too and this time , a few days ago I got a feeling , not stabbing , but it felt like a dull ache in that area and I just figured I was ovulating. Did not realize my period would be coming. It did not last long.
As I mentioned in the thread about weight gain, I have been pretty stable with mine and have lost weight a year ago but now it is just the same , although I have noticed my clothes are fitting better and I am in a dress size smaller. But I need to lose more and also want my arms and my tummy fitter. My arms I guess are not too bad, I know a friend of mine can't believe I am worried over my arms as she has a problem with hers. But she is very comfortable wearing no sleeves. I am not. She thinks I am crazy but I think everyone has a comfort level. I did feel very low when I was trying things on today. Did bring a couple things home to try on and actually later tonight when I tried them on I was not as upset as before although I am not thrilled about either. So I will look again tomorrow. I just had hoped to be more fit by now with the exercising I am doing. I know the hormones play a part in it but I don't know.
Sounds like you are getting alot of rain and I can relate.. driving in the pouring rain makes me nervous too!!
Hope you had a good evening and that you have a great tomorrow.
Take care,
rmc
I am just seeing your post and saw one in the other thread on weight gain. Thank you for your kind words there, yes I am having a low day today!! I think I was just a bit surprised with the period coming today so soon and also I think this is just a tougher cycle than last time hormonally and have not had one of those for awhile!! How soon I forget!! LOL!!
Yes, you are right with it coming this soon it is out of the way and will not be a bother for our trip. Thing is that it is a bother now as far as mood wise and I have a lot to do to get ready for the trip. When I am low like this physically and emotionally it is hard to get it all done or think of doing it!!
You mentioned a stabbing pain in the ovary or right side near your ovary. I have had that too and this time , a few days ago I got a feeling , not stabbing , but it felt like a dull ache in that area and I just figured I was ovulating. Did not realize my period would be coming. It did not last long.
As I mentioned in the thread about weight gain, I have been pretty stable with mine and have lost weight a year ago but now it is just the same , although I have noticed my clothes are fitting better and I am in a dress size smaller. But I need to lose more and also want my arms and my tummy fitter. My arms I guess are not too bad, I know a friend of mine can't believe I am worried over my arms as she has a problem with hers. But she is very comfortable wearing no sleeves. I am not. She thinks I am crazy but I think everyone has a comfort level. I did feel very low when I was trying things on today. Did bring a couple things home to try on and actually later tonight when I tried them on I was not as upset as before although I am not thrilled about either. So I will look again tomorrow. I just had hoped to be more fit by now with the exercising I am doing. I know the hormones play a part in it but I don't know.
Sounds like you are getting alot of rain and I can relate.. driving in the pouring rain makes me nervous too!!
Hope you had a good evening and that you have a great tomorrow.
Take care,
rmc
molly123
07-06-2005, 03:35 AM
Hi RMC,
Great to see you here! So, you got your period AGAIN? Didn't you just tell us that you had it? You know you're closer to meno now than ever, don't ya? I mean you can only go thata way! I remember my periods being further apart, then closer, than further. It will go back and forth like that till suddenly the next thing you know, you haven't had one for 2 mos..then 3 mos..etc. I once missed it for mos., then had it for 15 days straight, then gone for few months, then had it for just one day! It is really unpredicable and you really can't chart it so put away your spreadsheet! LOL! I know you're anxious to get to the finish line and more so now than ever because I made it there and Jackie is 1/2 way there now. Don't rush things, you can't make it happen any sooner so relax and just go with the flow (if you know what I mean! LOL). You don't want to create anxiety for yourself! :nono:
As with the soy, I don't think it does anything that affects your period. I've been taking the soy products and I don't have a period! I think it helps with the hot flashes tho. Right now, revival is having a discount of 20% off on the variety pack - so if you're interested in giving it a try, this is a good time. You asked about the slim series. I started with the dvd slim-in-6. I love her workouts. None of the moves are hard to follow and you being a dancer, you probably wouldn't have any problems following even some complicated routine! I've noticed a BIG difference in my lower body - my hips and thighs are very toned now, esp. since using weights and it's because of all the squats and lunges. I would like to have little less in he breast and tummy area and then I'll be a happy camper! The slim series is a very good buy and since you've been working out, you will probably do fine with it - at least, there's a variety.
And why don't you take magnesium ? I mean what's a couple of more pills? I think it really makes a difference. Don't know if you saw me posting earlier about taking Slow Mag if magnesium upsets your tummy.
Kiwi is an amazing little dog! Fireworks do not fazed her at all! She slept right thru it! No, she's not deaf either! LOL! She hates skateboarders and the meter maids! LOL! I ended up cleaning house yesterday - guess it was a continuation from Sunday! I guess that's what happens when I let the house go for a couple of weeks!
Hope you had a good time boating! Boating isn't my of soup - I tend to get seasick - but maybe it's becuz Iook at the water!
talk to ya soon,
hugs, molly
Great to see you here! So, you got your period AGAIN? Didn't you just tell us that you had it? You know you're closer to meno now than ever, don't ya? I mean you can only go thata way! I remember my periods being further apart, then closer, than further. It will go back and forth like that till suddenly the next thing you know, you haven't had one for 2 mos..then 3 mos..etc. I once missed it for mos., then had it for 15 days straight, then gone for few months, then had it for just one day! It is really unpredicable and you really can't chart it so put away your spreadsheet! LOL! I know you're anxious to get to the finish line and more so now than ever because I made it there and Jackie is 1/2 way there now. Don't rush things, you can't make it happen any sooner so relax and just go with the flow (if you know what I mean! LOL). You don't want to create anxiety for yourself! :nono:
As with the soy, I don't think it does anything that affects your period. I've been taking the soy products and I don't have a period! I think it helps with the hot flashes tho. Right now, revival is having a discount of 20% off on the variety pack - so if you're interested in giving it a try, this is a good time. You asked about the slim series. I started with the dvd slim-in-6. I love her workouts. None of the moves are hard to follow and you being a dancer, you probably wouldn't have any problems following even some complicated routine! I've noticed a BIG difference in my lower body - my hips and thighs are very toned now, esp. since using weights and it's because of all the squats and lunges. I would like to have little less in he breast and tummy area and then I'll be a happy camper! The slim series is a very good buy and since you've been working out, you will probably do fine with it - at least, there's a variety.
And why don't you take magnesium ? I mean what's a couple of more pills? I think it really makes a difference. Don't know if you saw me posting earlier about taking Slow Mag if magnesium upsets your tummy.
Kiwi is an amazing little dog! Fireworks do not fazed her at all! She slept right thru it! No, she's not deaf either! LOL! She hates skateboarders and the meter maids! LOL! I ended up cleaning house yesterday - guess it was a continuation from Sunday! I guess that's what happens when I let the house go for a couple of weeks!
Hope you had a good time boating! Boating isn't my of soup - I tend to get seasick - but maybe it's becuz Iook at the water!
talk to ya soon,
hugs, molly
molly123
07-06-2005, 04:02 AM
Hi Amy, I can feel the your frustration and how agonizing it is to have those symptoms! I really hope you will get things more under control once you continue with the of acupuncture. I'm proud of you taking the matter into your own hands and tryiing acupuncture, and not waiting for some dr. to keep feeding you different pills only to find they don't agree with you and so many drs. are so clueless anyway! I didn't realize you were only 45 - I really hope it won't last too long for you either! No woman should have to suffer with all these horrible symptoms! They can send men to the moon but they can come up with a rid-all for meno symptoms!
molly
molly
molly123
07-06-2005, 04:07 AM
Hi Jackie,
After reading your posts, I've decided you must be cute as a button - I mean, I already know you're little....but you're also funny! I can feel your energy! Is it the Lexapor perhaps?? or are you normally thata way?
So, it's raining where you are, huh? It's windy here! Anything is better than hot!
molly
After reading your posts, I've decided you must be cute as a button - I mean, I already know you're little....but you're also funny! I can feel your energy! Is it the Lexapor perhaps?? or are you normally thata way?
So, it's raining where you are, huh? It's windy here! Anything is better than hot!
molly
molly123
07-06-2005, 04:15 AM
Hi Maggie and Hopefully,
How are you ladies doing today? It does it better! There was a time when I didn't think I would ever feel normal again! I don't know why some of us have to have it so bad!
Hang in there and vent or just talk nonsense whenever you want! :D
molly
How are you ladies doing today? It does it better! There was a time when I didn't think I would ever feel normal again! I don't know why some of us have to have it so bad!
Hang in there and vent or just talk nonsense whenever you want! :D
molly
littlejmb
07-06-2005, 10:05 AM
Good morning Roxanne and Molly :wave:
Just read your posts, before I have to start to work. Thought I'd jot a few lines before I get started.
RMC - I am with Molly - with these weird period patterns, I think you are closer to meno than you think. I had all that going on about four years ago, before I started skipping for months at a time. I meant to mention that I had some periods during that time that were nothing but the black sticky spotting. That was worse than having one, because it lastest longer than a real period. I bet you look fine in those outfits, if you're like me, during your period time, you don't think you look good at all - and then afterwards you will think "hey, I don't look that bad after all!" I think the way we think is just different and more negative towards ourselves during that time. Hopefully you will be back to normal by trip time, and be in a good mood again.
As hard as it was raining here at work in Memphis, it didn't rain a drop at home, and we sure did need it! I was disappointed. Once I got down the street, it really wasn't raining hard at all. Phooey!!
Molly, yes, I am usually an upbeat person and full of nonsense, except when I was in my really depressed stages. Then it was hard to be funny when you feel like crying all the time! My hubby is funny too, so we laugh alot, and that is good. We rarely ever fight (now that I'm on Lexapro :D ) and I'm not bitchy feeling all the time, lol Man, I hated feeling like that all the time! I hated myself alot of the time too! I would TRY not to be that way, but it would come out anyway. :eek: Not fun for me and anyone around me! I'm just a little sweetie pie now, :)
Have a great day Ladies!
Jackie :angel:
Just read your posts, before I have to start to work. Thought I'd jot a few lines before I get started.
RMC - I am with Molly - with these weird period patterns, I think you are closer to meno than you think. I had all that going on about four years ago, before I started skipping for months at a time. I meant to mention that I had some periods during that time that were nothing but the black sticky spotting. That was worse than having one, because it lastest longer than a real period. I bet you look fine in those outfits, if you're like me, during your period time, you don't think you look good at all - and then afterwards you will think "hey, I don't look that bad after all!" I think the way we think is just different and more negative towards ourselves during that time. Hopefully you will be back to normal by trip time, and be in a good mood again.
As hard as it was raining here at work in Memphis, it didn't rain a drop at home, and we sure did need it! I was disappointed. Once I got down the street, it really wasn't raining hard at all. Phooey!!
Molly, yes, I am usually an upbeat person and full of nonsense, except when I was in my really depressed stages. Then it was hard to be funny when you feel like crying all the time! My hubby is funny too, so we laugh alot, and that is good. We rarely ever fight (now that I'm on Lexapro :D ) and I'm not bitchy feeling all the time, lol Man, I hated feeling like that all the time! I hated myself alot of the time too! I would TRY not to be that way, but it would come out anyway. :eek: Not fun for me and anyone around me! I'm just a little sweetie pie now, :)
Have a great day Ladies!
Jackie :angel:
Little Amy
07-06-2005, 12:08 PM
Jackie:
Loved the crack about my brain bouncin' and buzzin' round my head! That is TOO funny! I love the mental picture of that! You girls are great! Sorry you didn't get the rain you need, that is very frustrating...especially if you have a garden or flowers to keep watering. Oh, and I was so glad you said what you did about the short black, sticky periods, because I my periods run only about 2 days long now, and one of the days is like that. I keep hoping that I'll start skipping them soon.
Molly:
You hit it on the head about us being able to put a man on the moon, but our doctors still don't have a clue about peri. and meno. I did purchase the book "The Pause" (can't remember who suggested it). It is excellent! I read almost all of it last night and intend to pass it on to two different women I know who are starting into peri. They are running from doctor to doctor with all these symptoms only to be told they are too young to be worried about this, which is exactly what the book had said so many women go through - including myself!
Well, I better get with it - lots to take care of today!
Amy
Loved the crack about my brain bouncin' and buzzin' round my head! That is TOO funny! I love the mental picture of that! You girls are great! Sorry you didn't get the rain you need, that is very frustrating...especially if you have a garden or flowers to keep watering. Oh, and I was so glad you said what you did about the short black, sticky periods, because I my periods run only about 2 days long now, and one of the days is like that. I keep hoping that I'll start skipping them soon.
Molly:
You hit it on the head about us being able to put a man on the moon, but our doctors still don't have a clue about peri. and meno. I did purchase the book "The Pause" (can't remember who suggested it). It is excellent! I read almost all of it last night and intend to pass it on to two different women I know who are starting into peri. They are running from doctor to doctor with all these symptoms only to be told they are too young to be worried about this, which is exactly what the book had said so many women go through - including myself!
Well, I better get with it - lots to take care of today!
Amy
littlejmb
07-06-2005, 01:06 PM
Amy, I believe that it was RMC that suggested that book. Who is the Author? I would like to pick up a copy of that myself. Hope you are having a good day!
Ok ladies - I have something to share with you. I was talking to our receptionist this morning, and we were talking about our moods, etc, and I diagnosed her as starting peri. (now that I have been thru this and am an expert :D , I can counsel other ladies here at work, lol) She told me that when her mother was going thru "the change" that she turned into the meanest person and they were scared of her. She would be ok one minute, and the next minute she'd be a raving lunatic. She'd whip them and they'd ask her what had they done and she'd say - "I didn't like the way you were looking at me!" Does that sound familiar?? :eek: Scary huh? I can definitely relate to that and THANK GOD FOR AD'S!! She said she hoped she never got to that point and started being mean to her kids like that. I told her to just watch for it, and run for help when it got to that point!
So - sad to say that when our mother's, aunt's etc, were going thru this- they probably didn't know what to do about it, but we are in an age that we can find some help for ourselves. And that in itself is encourging!!
Hope everyone is "coping" in a good way today!
Hugs,
Jackie
Ok ladies - I have something to share with you. I was talking to our receptionist this morning, and we were talking about our moods, etc, and I diagnosed her as starting peri. (now that I have been thru this and am an expert :D , I can counsel other ladies here at work, lol) She told me that when her mother was going thru "the change" that she turned into the meanest person and they were scared of her. She would be ok one minute, and the next minute she'd be a raving lunatic. She'd whip them and they'd ask her what had they done and she'd say - "I didn't like the way you were looking at me!" Does that sound familiar?? :eek: Scary huh? I can definitely relate to that and THANK GOD FOR AD'S!! She said she hoped she never got to that point and started being mean to her kids like that. I told her to just watch for it, and run for help when it got to that point!
So - sad to say that when our mother's, aunt's etc, were going thru this- they probably didn't know what to do about it, but we are in an age that we can find some help for ourselves. And that in itself is encourging!!
Hope everyone is "coping" in a good way today!
Hugs,
Jackie
Titchou
07-06-2005, 01:20 PM
Well, ladies, I count myself as being very lucky....when I was in peri my doc simply changed my bcp and in two weeks, EVERY symptom was gone! We then switched over to HRT (Femhrt) after a few years as I could tell my body was fighting having the periods the bcp wanted to make it have. Never had another period...no spotting, nothing and everything has rocked along great since...total time frame about 8 years. I'm 59 and loving it! Haven't had a period in 3 years and I don't miss it one bit....after all, I had my first one at age 10....46 years was damned long enough!
Little Amy
07-06-2005, 01:29 PM
Jackie:
The author is Lonnie Barbach. I ordered from Amazon, and it was about $10. There were cheaper ones you could get used, but since I was ordering other books I wanted to get the free shipping if you spend $25. I would say the book is definitely geared toward those heading into peri., preparing them for what might be ahead, but there is a section called "Beyond the Pause", that I haven't looked at yet. There is lots of good info. in this book.
And I am actually having a pretty good day. Hope you are having a wonderful day too. I ovulated this past weekend and that whole time right after I have a period up through ovulation is my worst time. Ovulation through period time seems to be SO much better these days. I'll actually have days that I almost feel like my old self again. Happy, full of energy, get lots accomplished, etc. What roller coaster ride we are on!
And I know I can get crabby with my 16 year old son, but he knows exactly what's going on with me, and he'll just call me on it and tell me to get calm and relax. Poor kid has had to put up with this for almost 6 years now, but I think I'm seeing light at the end of the tunnel. But I can NEVER imagine beating my kids just because they looked at me funny. My sister-in-law told me there was a women in her town that became EXTREMELY paranoid when she went through peri. and she would call the same people every day and accuse them of talking about her, and she just went crazy with it - and when she finally got through it, she went back to being perfectly normal. Our bodies are so weird, aren't they?
Hugs to all,
Amy
The author is Lonnie Barbach. I ordered from Amazon, and it was about $10. There were cheaper ones you could get used, but since I was ordering other books I wanted to get the free shipping if you spend $25. I would say the book is definitely geared toward those heading into peri., preparing them for what might be ahead, but there is a section called "Beyond the Pause", that I haven't looked at yet. There is lots of good info. in this book.
And I am actually having a pretty good day. Hope you are having a wonderful day too. I ovulated this past weekend and that whole time right after I have a period up through ovulation is my worst time. Ovulation through period time seems to be SO much better these days. I'll actually have days that I almost feel like my old self again. Happy, full of energy, get lots accomplished, etc. What roller coaster ride we are on!
And I know I can get crabby with my 16 year old son, but he knows exactly what's going on with me, and he'll just call me on it and tell me to get calm and relax. Poor kid has had to put up with this for almost 6 years now, but I think I'm seeing light at the end of the tunnel. But I can NEVER imagine beating my kids just because they looked at me funny. My sister-in-law told me there was a women in her town that became EXTREMELY paranoid when she went through peri. and she would call the same people every day and accuse them of talking about her, and she just went crazy with it - and when she finally got through it, she went back to being perfectly normal. Our bodies are so weird, aren't they?
Hugs to all,
Amy
littlejmb
07-06-2005, 02:02 PM
Titchou - I too started when I was 10! I agree as I have been having them for forty years - and that's too darn long! You are indeed lucky! I got off the bcp when I was 34, and got my tubes tied. As long as I was on the pill, I couldn't lose weight to save my life! I finally started losing after I got off of them. I have read on these boards where several people have said their doctors put them on bcp's and it helped. My periods have been so far inbetween - I dont even think about it any more. And... like you said - I don't miss it a bit!
littlejmb
07-06-2005, 02:11 PM
Amy, thanks for the info on the book. I have an account with Amazon, so I will look that up. I can't imagine beating my kids (if I had any) either like that, but some women are beyond their limit during this time. My sister is 42 now, and she had her ovaries removed some years back because she kept getting dermoid cysts or tumors on them, so they just removed them. I think she might have been going thru early peri or either extreme PMS or that extreme PPMD or whatever it is, because she screams at her kids and even got her son by the neck and left red marks on his throat one day when we were at the mall! She turns into a lunatic. It embarrasses me to death too. This was several years ago, her son is 6'4" now so I don't think she could do it now, lol.
Thanks again, and glad you're "coping" well today! :bouncing:
Jackie
Thanks again, and glad you're "coping" well today! :bouncing:
Jackie
littlejmb
07-06-2005, 03:11 PM
Ok Amy, Just ordered my copy of The Pause from Amazon. Should get it next week! :)
rmc12
07-06-2005, 03:59 PM
Hi Amy,
Glad you got the book The Pause. I have found it so so helpful. My copy is very worn from MUCH use!! LOL!!
You said :
" I'll actually have days that I almost feel like my old self again. Happy, full of energy, get lots accomplished, etc. What roller coaster ride we are on!"...yes me too, it goes up and down and up and down!! LOL!! Today I am much better than yesterday so I am happy about that.
I was the one that said that my blood pressure has always been on the lower side and I do get the fullness in my ears at times. I did not equate one with the other though. I tend to have sinus problems and my ears get full from that and I get that full sensation. My blood pressure has been good, when I said lower, I mean I do not have high blood pressure as some people can at this time. It is like 110/70 or 110/65 when I have gone in for my annuals.
I too only have 2 days usually of a flow and then it tapers to that dark stuff. Guess it is all part of this whole peri experience.
Hope your day is going well,
rmc
Glad you got the book The Pause. I have found it so so helpful. My copy is very worn from MUCH use!! LOL!!
You said :
" I'll actually have days that I almost feel like my old self again. Happy, full of energy, get lots accomplished, etc. What roller coaster ride we are on!"...yes me too, it goes up and down and up and down!! LOL!! Today I am much better than yesterday so I am happy about that.
I was the one that said that my blood pressure has always been on the lower side and I do get the fullness in my ears at times. I did not equate one with the other though. I tend to have sinus problems and my ears get full from that and I get that full sensation. My blood pressure has been good, when I said lower, I mean I do not have high blood pressure as some people can at this time. It is like 110/70 or 110/65 when I have gone in for my annuals.
I too only have 2 days usually of a flow and then it tapers to that dark stuff. Guess it is all part of this whole peri experience.
Hope your day is going well,
rmc
rmc12
07-06-2005, 04:15 PM
Hi Molly,
Thanks for the post, always good to see one from you.
Yes I did just tell you I got my period!! LOL!! I got it at day 38 and then got it yesterday at day 18. I am much better today, physically and emotionally. I am sure my state yesterday was hormonal as it was the type of feeling where it is like you are in a funk and cannot get out of it. I did and I am better today. Thanks for putting up with my ups and downs !! (all of you ladies, actually!!)
You are right of course that our periods at this time are going to be whacky and all over the place. It seems a lot of women get them further apart and then some get them closer together and I think it is all very individual which is something I need to keep in mind.
I LOL about the spreadsheet!! LOL!! I really was not thinking of it this time though or thinking I'd get it, even though looking back at this weekend I was fatigued, kind of fuzzy and having the sinus headache I at times do get before. But I did not connect it. Last cycle I didn't think of it at all and it came with no big fanfare on the 38th day. So this time too I just was not focusing on it and then ...there it was this time early. I do carry a tampon with me and it is a good thing I did.
I think you are right that I am in a hurry due to the fact that you lucky girls, some of you, are there or almost there with not getting your period and I have two close friends that I have had since grade school and one has not had it for 7 months and the other has very erratic ones like me but goes longer in between at times. But they are both going thru their own symptoms. The one who has not had it since 7 months ago is very very bloated to the point of uncomfortable and very moody now, more so than me (believe it or not!! LOL!!) . So as I said it is all individual. Before this time she was sailing right thru it though.
I am interested in the soy mainly for the benefits for lowering cholesterol which I have read. Thanks for the tip about the revival discount and the slim series. I like variey in my workouts so am going to add that. I have been good about exercising and am very pleased about that.
I know, I know..I should take magnesium!! LOL! I will look for the Slow Mag as I am prone to tummy upsets with pills. What do you feel it made a difference in for you by the way? And you take it at night right? and not with calcium?
Our dog has a bit of hearing loss so I don't think really heard a lot of the fireworks. But even when he was hearing 100 percent he was not fazed either. He is a tough little pooch!! A cutie!! I am with you about Boating..not my cup of tea either and this was my kind of boating as we did not leave the docK!! LOL!!
Hope your scrapbooking is coming along and your day is going well.
Hugs,
rmc
Thanks for the post, always good to see one from you.
Yes I did just tell you I got my period!! LOL!! I got it at day 38 and then got it yesterday at day 18. I am much better today, physically and emotionally. I am sure my state yesterday was hormonal as it was the type of feeling where it is like you are in a funk and cannot get out of it. I did and I am better today. Thanks for putting up with my ups and downs !! (all of you ladies, actually!!)
You are right of course that our periods at this time are going to be whacky and all over the place. It seems a lot of women get them further apart and then some get them closer together and I think it is all very individual which is something I need to keep in mind.
I LOL about the spreadsheet!! LOL!! I really was not thinking of it this time though or thinking I'd get it, even though looking back at this weekend I was fatigued, kind of fuzzy and having the sinus headache I at times do get before. But I did not connect it. Last cycle I didn't think of it at all and it came with no big fanfare on the 38th day. So this time too I just was not focusing on it and then ...there it was this time early. I do carry a tampon with me and it is a good thing I did.
I think you are right that I am in a hurry due to the fact that you lucky girls, some of you, are there or almost there with not getting your period and I have two close friends that I have had since grade school and one has not had it for 7 months and the other has very erratic ones like me but goes longer in between at times. But they are both going thru their own symptoms. The one who has not had it since 7 months ago is very very bloated to the point of uncomfortable and very moody now, more so than me (believe it or not!! LOL!!) . So as I said it is all individual. Before this time she was sailing right thru it though.
I am interested in the soy mainly for the benefits for lowering cholesterol which I have read. Thanks for the tip about the revival discount and the slim series. I like variey in my workouts so am going to add that. I have been good about exercising and am very pleased about that.
I know, I know..I should take magnesium!! LOL! I will look for the Slow Mag as I am prone to tummy upsets with pills. What do you feel it made a difference in for you by the way? And you take it at night right? and not with calcium?
Our dog has a bit of hearing loss so I don't think really heard a lot of the fireworks. But even when he was hearing 100 percent he was not fazed either. He is a tough little pooch!! A cutie!! I am with you about Boating..not my cup of tea either and this was my kind of boating as we did not leave the docK!! LOL!!
Hope your scrapbooking is coming along and your day is going well.
Hugs,
rmc
rmc12
07-06-2005, 04:38 PM
Hi Jackie,
Good to get your post!! Thanks for listening...I was really in a state yesterday and I am sure sounded like I was in a very very bad way. I probably sounded a bit silly too (more than a little I am sure!!) as of course one would think I'd be used to this peri thing by now!! But it coming at day 18 after not having it do that for so long was not even in my little pea brain!!
I guess I am just anxious to get this peri stage over with, never have done well with a lot of change and this whole thing is all about that ...that is for sure!! I have had period changes since my mid 40s I know and they were subtle and then in the later 40s more so and then the worst of it (so far!!) last year. I have had that brown or dark stuff too and that happened I think for the first time in my 40s.
You are right about period time..when you are in that mode nothing seems to look good on you and you just believe it doesn't. That is where I was yesterday. I do need to lose some weight and at period time and off and on during peri time itself bloating is way worse so one feels bigger. So that was playing into it yesterday too. I just tried to pamper myself yesterday. Took a hot shower, gave myself a masque , did up my hair and after that and lots of hugs from my husband I seemed to be doing better. I tried a couple of the outfits on and they seemed to look better to me than when I was in the store!! So lesson to be learned : do not go shopping when you are in the midst of a bad period day!!
Glad you too are getting the book The Pause. It is great. I really highly recommend it. My copy is very worn from much use as I said. I like how it goes thru each symptom and explains things. It is very helpful.
Hope you get the rain you need there. Wish we could exchange as we have had a dose of it!!
Hope you are coping well today and thanks for listening as always.
Hugs,
rmc
Good to get your post!! Thanks for listening...I was really in a state yesterday and I am sure sounded like I was in a very very bad way. I probably sounded a bit silly too (more than a little I am sure!!) as of course one would think I'd be used to this peri thing by now!! But it coming at day 18 after not having it do that for so long was not even in my little pea brain!!
I guess I am just anxious to get this peri stage over with, never have done well with a lot of change and this whole thing is all about that ...that is for sure!! I have had period changes since my mid 40s I know and they were subtle and then in the later 40s more so and then the worst of it (so far!!) last year. I have had that brown or dark stuff too and that happened I think for the first time in my 40s.
You are right about period time..when you are in that mode nothing seems to look good on you and you just believe it doesn't. That is where I was yesterday. I do need to lose some weight and at period time and off and on during peri time itself bloating is way worse so one feels bigger. So that was playing into it yesterday too. I just tried to pamper myself yesterday. Took a hot shower, gave myself a masque , did up my hair and after that and lots of hugs from my husband I seemed to be doing better. I tried a couple of the outfits on and they seemed to look better to me than when I was in the store!! So lesson to be learned : do not go shopping when you are in the midst of a bad period day!!
Glad you too are getting the book The Pause. It is great. I really highly recommend it. My copy is very worn from much use as I said. I like how it goes thru each symptom and explains things. It is very helpful.
Hope you get the rain you need there. Wish we could exchange as we have had a dose of it!!
Hope you are coping well today and thanks for listening as always.
Hugs,
rmc
Little Amy
07-06-2005, 05:09 PM
rmc:
Glad you are better today, and it sure sounds like we are in the same boat peri. wise. Can't wait to read some more of "The Pause" tonight. It's so good to not feel like a complete freak. I read something in there about "brain static" and that is exactly what I experience a lot of times before I fall asleep. So many interesting things in that book. Jackie, I hope it helps you too. That may be the "bees in my head" feeling I was talking about yesterday. Everyone have a good day OK?
Amy
Glad you are better today, and it sure sounds like we are in the same boat peri. wise. Can't wait to read some more of "The Pause" tonight. It's so good to not feel like a complete freak. I read something in there about "brain static" and that is exactly what I experience a lot of times before I fall asleep. So many interesting things in that book. Jackie, I hope it helps you too. That may be the "bees in my head" feeling I was talking about yesterday. Everyone have a good day OK?
Amy
littlejmb
07-06-2005, 06:32 PM
RMC, so glad you are feeling better today and in a better frame of mind! You are right - don't go shopping for clothes when you're on your period and in a funk :) I am glad you pampered yourself, that always makes me feel better. Having an understanding husband does too. We did get some rain at home today, hubby said, so I hope it was enough to help. It has been so dry, our front yard is about to burn up. I am looking forward to getting my copy of The Pause and reading it also. Although I hardly have any symptoms now, at least what I did go thru will make more sense!
Amy & RMC, I think I missed out on alot of the bedtime stuff like the internal shaking, waking up in a panic, brain currents - etc., is because I have been taking my magnesium for quite a few years now before bedtime. If I hadn't I might have experienced those things too. I guess I am a little smarter than I thought I was, since the time I missed my first period, I read up on peri and saw what all supplements I needed - and started taking them right then. It probably prevented me from getting alot of the things some of you have experienced because I was getting essential elements that my body needed. The Dong Quai I have mentioned before actually helps with your periods and balances your hormones. I took that for a really long time. Also supposed to help with the vaginal dryness too, although I didn't experience that until last year.
Well ladies, I think we have lost Hellas - or either she went off the deep end and they have her locked up! lol I haven't seen her posting on the boards either. Yoohoo Hellas - are you out there??? We want to know how you are doing!
It's almost time for me to leave work and head to the house. I hope I don't get that weird head thing today and fall asleep on the way home again!
Check in on you guys later....
Toodles,
JB
Amy & RMC, I think I missed out on alot of the bedtime stuff like the internal shaking, waking up in a panic, brain currents - etc., is because I have been taking my magnesium for quite a few years now before bedtime. If I hadn't I might have experienced those things too. I guess I am a little smarter than I thought I was, since the time I missed my first period, I read up on peri and saw what all supplements I needed - and started taking them right then. It probably prevented me from getting alot of the things some of you have experienced because I was getting essential elements that my body needed. The Dong Quai I have mentioned before actually helps with your periods and balances your hormones. I took that for a really long time. Also supposed to help with the vaginal dryness too, although I didn't experience that until last year.
Well ladies, I think we have lost Hellas - or either she went off the deep end and they have her locked up! lol I haven't seen her posting on the boards either. Yoohoo Hellas - are you out there??? We want to know how you are doing!
It's almost time for me to leave work and head to the house. I hope I don't get that weird head thing today and fall asleep on the way home again!
Check in on you guys later....
Toodles,
JB
molly123
07-06-2005, 08:46 PM
Hi RMC,
So glad you are feeling better today! Another thing we have in common - you getting sinus headaches too - I used to get them a few days before I'd get my period. Still get them occasionally w/o the period! Here I am w/o a period for a year and I still picked up the Before the Change book last night (couldn't sleep!). One thing it said was that in some women, meno can be abrupt (that's me, don't you think?!) and in others, it can be a gradual transition spread oer the years from age 35 to age 50! (Yikes!!) Both of these are perfectly normal and healthy! It also states that it does ot reflect comparative states of health. Each of us can be extrmely healthy and just genetically or predisposed to peri symptoms! I thought this was interesting but doesn't really help many women, like you, who would like to get a better idea as to where you stand with this whole thing! I really think you're getting close tho! I thought you get a kick outta my comment about putting together a spreadsheet on how/when/where you get your period - don't you think that is something an Aries would normally do?? LOL!?? By the way, hey, do you want my extra tampons/pads? If I could, I would ship them to you!! LOL!
Also, you should know better than to go shopping for clothes when you are on the rag! LOL! It's weird but I remember I always tend to go shopping too! Of course, it's not really the best time to do so with the bloating and all! It's a sign of being a true woman, don't you think? I don't know of any woman who do not like to shop!
As with the soy, it helped my BF lower his cholesterol. He used to be on Lipitor and now he's off of it. But, it didn't work for another guy friend of mine so I don't think there's a guarantee - it depends on how your body responds to it. You might just give it a try to see if you like it - it is suppose to help you lose weight too - IMO, if you don't eat anything but drink the soy shake - in other words, a liquid diet!
As with the Magnesium - I think it has helped me sleep better. Right now, I'm having a hard time falling asleep b/c I have too much on my mind - too much stuff to do! You ever feel like you never slept? I haven't had that deep sleep lately - like I'm semi-conscious! I'm too busy trying to design the scrapbook and doggie calendar in my mind, which I haven't even started! Anyway, since I started the Mag, I don't have the insomnia like I used to. Also, I think it helped with those internal shakes - I noticed they subsided once I started taking it. It is suppose to help the nervous system and I figure that means w/anxiety! I just take 500mg at bedtime - with no Calcium. I take those calcium chews - not always that good about it because I'm so sick of taking so many stuff!
Well, got to hit the road (AGAIN!) and get myself a salad for dinner. Have you gotten lazy to cook? I have!
hugs,
molly :wave:
So glad you are feeling better today! Another thing we have in common - you getting sinus headaches too - I used to get them a few days before I'd get my period. Still get them occasionally w/o the period! Here I am w/o a period for a year and I still picked up the Before the Change book last night (couldn't sleep!). One thing it said was that in some women, meno can be abrupt (that's me, don't you think?!) and in others, it can be a gradual transition spread oer the years from age 35 to age 50! (Yikes!!) Both of these are perfectly normal and healthy! It also states that it does ot reflect comparative states of health. Each of us can be extrmely healthy and just genetically or predisposed to peri symptoms! I thought this was interesting but doesn't really help many women, like you, who would like to get a better idea as to where you stand with this whole thing! I really think you're getting close tho! I thought you get a kick outta my comment about putting together a spreadsheet on how/when/where you get your period - don't you think that is something an Aries would normally do?? LOL!?? By the way, hey, do you want my extra tampons/pads? If I could, I would ship them to you!! LOL!
Also, you should know better than to go shopping for clothes when you are on the rag! LOL! It's weird but I remember I always tend to go shopping too! Of course, it's not really the best time to do so with the bloating and all! It's a sign of being a true woman, don't you think? I don't know of any woman who do not like to shop!
As with the soy, it helped my BF lower his cholesterol. He used to be on Lipitor and now he's off of it. But, it didn't work for another guy friend of mine so I don't think there's a guarantee - it depends on how your body responds to it. You might just give it a try to see if you like it - it is suppose to help you lose weight too - IMO, if you don't eat anything but drink the soy shake - in other words, a liquid diet!
As with the Magnesium - I think it has helped me sleep better. Right now, I'm having a hard time falling asleep b/c I have too much on my mind - too much stuff to do! You ever feel like you never slept? I haven't had that deep sleep lately - like I'm semi-conscious! I'm too busy trying to design the scrapbook and doggie calendar in my mind, which I haven't even started! Anyway, since I started the Mag, I don't have the insomnia like I used to. Also, I think it helped with those internal shakes - I noticed they subsided once I started taking it. It is suppose to help the nervous system and I figure that means w/anxiety! I just take 500mg at bedtime - with no Calcium. I take those calcium chews - not always that good about it because I'm so sick of taking so many stuff!
Well, got to hit the road (AGAIN!) and get myself a salad for dinner. Have you gotten lazy to cook? I have!
hugs,
molly :wave:
molly123
07-06-2005, 09:04 PM
Hi Jackie,
Yeah, I was thinking of hellas too - hope she didn't get banned or something. I don't see why she would, she usually does not misbehave like someone we know?! hee-hee-hee! Well, I do hope she is ok. Maybe she is out of town or something.
By the way, you mentioned about your suddenly falling asleep. I think it's called narcolepsy. I think it can get a bit dangerous if you're falling asleep when you're driving or just out of nowhere. Something I think you better check out, don't you think?
You were definitely smart to have known about peri symptoms before you got hit with it. You took control of your life and took preventive measures! Not like me, I was totally naive to the whole thing. Never crossed my mind even. It's like one day, I'm young and carefree - next thing you know, I'm menopausal, achy and old! LOL!
ta-ta,
molly
Yeah, I was thinking of hellas too - hope she didn't get banned or something. I don't see why she would, she usually does not misbehave like someone we know?! hee-hee-hee! Well, I do hope she is ok. Maybe she is out of town or something.
By the way, you mentioned about your suddenly falling asleep. I think it's called narcolepsy. I think it can get a bit dangerous if you're falling asleep when you're driving or just out of nowhere. Something I think you better check out, don't you think?
You were definitely smart to have known about peri symptoms before you got hit with it. You took control of your life and took preventive measures! Not like me, I was totally naive to the whole thing. Never crossed my mind even. It's like one day, I'm young and carefree - next thing you know, I'm menopausal, achy and old! LOL!
ta-ta,
molly
HELLASRULES
07-06-2005, 09:05 PM
Yeah, I'm still out here. So you want to know "how I am coping". By the skin of my teeth most days. Almost lost it for sure yesterday at work.
So, I've just read thru all these posts and I really hate to be the bearer of bad news, but true menopause (at least for me) is worse than peri-menopause. With Peri, I remember crying a lot more, but just chalked it up to PMS/PMDD, or cause I was in a relationship at the time that wasn't exactly uplifting. Now I know it was all due to the hormone fluctuations. (I always hated roller-coaster rides.)
RMC, I just wanted to address your 18 day cycle. Just before all my periods stopped, I would go every 3 weeks & I'd get my period, then it was coming every two weeks, then I got one that lasted something like 2 weeks, then I went for about 8 months before I had my very last one. It was all very erratic at the end. The dr kept wanting to do a D&C, ultrasounds, biopsies, etc. And I kept telling her it was menopause. I was right.
For everyone suffering thru this with crying and curled up in a ball and not wanting to get out of bed, etc. THAT part did get better. I hardly ever cry now. (Maybe I'm just old & cynical.)
But, and I dont recall who said it, the anxiety/panic is the worst!!! Right now, it's pretty bad, but really tired after a winter of being in pain for 3 months, and work-related stress, so I am taking a 2 week vacation to De-Stress, and re-center myself.
I am going to try & do that, by making my home a more peaceful place to be, and doing lots of artistic stuff (best therapy I have found so far).
So, since I've been on the Menopause Road, here's the vitamins/suppliments I have taken and continue to take...just in case they can help anyone:
B-Complex for stress
Calcium, magnesium, & zinc for bones
Alpha Lipoic Acid for healthy cells
Folate (read that it was good for breast health)
Acidopholus (prevents yeast infections & keeps gut healthy)
Flaxseed Oil
And just added:
Fish Oil (heart health, skin health, dry eye, inflammation)
5-Htp (percursor to seretonin, supposed to help even out moods)
The jury is still out on the last 2...only been 4 days, but will let you know. I actually felt pretty good today :bouncing: , no anxiety or stress, or ravings, so maybe the 5-Htp is helping. We'll see...
And with 2 weeks off from work, hapefully I will be feeling pretty mellow.
Oh...I have a question for Tichou, if you're still out there. I was interested in the comment on the BP med change. Do you remember what you were taking that made the symptoms worse? And what you're taking now that is helping? I haven't felt right since I've been on ACEI's and was just curious if maybe that had something to do with all the nasty-ness. Thanks!
Hope everyone is doing AOK.
Hellas
So, I've just read thru all these posts and I really hate to be the bearer of bad news, but true menopause (at least for me) is worse than peri-menopause. With Peri, I remember crying a lot more, but just chalked it up to PMS/PMDD, or cause I was in a relationship at the time that wasn't exactly uplifting. Now I know it was all due to the hormone fluctuations. (I always hated roller-coaster rides.)
RMC, I just wanted to address your 18 day cycle. Just before all my periods stopped, I would go every 3 weeks & I'd get my period, then it was coming every two weeks, then I got one that lasted something like 2 weeks, then I went for about 8 months before I had my very last one. It was all very erratic at the end. The dr kept wanting to do a D&C, ultrasounds, biopsies, etc. And I kept telling her it was menopause. I was right.
For everyone suffering thru this with crying and curled up in a ball and not wanting to get out of bed, etc. THAT part did get better. I hardly ever cry now. (Maybe I'm just old & cynical.)
But, and I dont recall who said it, the anxiety/panic is the worst!!! Right now, it's pretty bad, but really tired after a winter of being in pain for 3 months, and work-related stress, so I am taking a 2 week vacation to De-Stress, and re-center myself.
I am going to try & do that, by making my home a more peaceful place to be, and doing lots of artistic stuff (best therapy I have found so far).
So, since I've been on the Menopause Road, here's the vitamins/suppliments I have taken and continue to take...just in case they can help anyone:
B-Complex for stress
Calcium, magnesium, & zinc for bones
Alpha Lipoic Acid for healthy cells
Folate (read that it was good for breast health)
Acidopholus (prevents yeast infections & keeps gut healthy)
Flaxseed Oil
And just added:
Fish Oil (heart health, skin health, dry eye, inflammation)
5-Htp (percursor to seretonin, supposed to help even out moods)
The jury is still out on the last 2...only been 4 days, but will let you know. I actually felt pretty good today :bouncing: , no anxiety or stress, or ravings, so maybe the 5-Htp is helping. We'll see...
And with 2 weeks off from work, hapefully I will be feeling pretty mellow.
Oh...I have a question for Tichou, if you're still out there. I was interested in the comment on the BP med change. Do you remember what you were taking that made the symptoms worse? And what you're taking now that is helping? I haven't felt right since I've been on ACEI's and was just curious if maybe that had something to do with all the nasty-ness. Thanks!
Hope everyone is doing AOK.
Hellas
littlejmb
07-06-2005, 09:34 PM
Hey Molly and Glad to see you here Hellas! Who hoo :bouncing:
Molly, I think maybe it's the Aries in me that makes to want to read up and get knowledgeable about all kinds of health concerns. Or - maybe it's just me, I don't know :confused: Hubby calls me Dr. Jackie, lol. Everyone that wants to know anything about a certain med or herb always calls me and asks me about it because 9 out of 10 times, I know the answer. Maybe someday when I get tired of having fun at my present job, I'll be a sidewalk doctor - maybe when I retire, lol :D
You asked RMC is she was getting to lazy to cook - I can answer that one for you - no way is she getting tired and lazy about that, but I sure am! I hardly ever cook anymore. It's mostly quick and easy meals for us now days. I used to love to cook all kinds of stuff when we first got married and for years afterward - but not now.
I know that it sounds like narcalepsy (sp) but I am sure it's not. I never do it but on the way home from work, or after I eat dinner. I just started doing that a year or so ago, so I am sure it must be peri related.
I laughed so hard at what you told Roxanne about not going shopping while she's on the rag! That was so funny :D
HELLAS - girl, been wondering where you were. Please don't tell me that post-menopause is as bad as peri :eek: That I cannot handle! You are taking alot of the same supplements that I do, but I don't take the 5 HTP, but had thought about trying it rather than the AD, but didn't. I am very curious as to how it helps you. I even thought about trying it and seeing if I could wean off the AD - but not sure I really want to do that. I hope it helps you, and glad you got a two week vacation to destress! Maybe that will make you feel a whole lot better! I sure hope so.
check in with you gals in a bit....
JB
Molly, I think maybe it's the Aries in me that makes to want to read up and get knowledgeable about all kinds of health concerns. Or - maybe it's just me, I don't know :confused: Hubby calls me Dr. Jackie, lol. Everyone that wants to know anything about a certain med or herb always calls me and asks me about it because 9 out of 10 times, I know the answer. Maybe someday when I get tired of having fun at my present job, I'll be a sidewalk doctor - maybe when I retire, lol :D
You asked RMC is she was getting to lazy to cook - I can answer that one for you - no way is she getting tired and lazy about that, but I sure am! I hardly ever cook anymore. It's mostly quick and easy meals for us now days. I used to love to cook all kinds of stuff when we first got married and for years afterward - but not now.
I know that it sounds like narcalepsy (sp) but I am sure it's not. I never do it but on the way home from work, or after I eat dinner. I just started doing that a year or so ago, so I am sure it must be peri related.
I laughed so hard at what you told Roxanne about not going shopping while she's on the rag! That was so funny :D
HELLAS - girl, been wondering where you were. Please don't tell me that post-menopause is as bad as peri :eek: That I cannot handle! You are taking alot of the same supplements that I do, but I don't take the 5 HTP, but had thought about trying it rather than the AD, but didn't. I am very curious as to how it helps you. I even thought about trying it and seeing if I could wean off the AD - but not sure I really want to do that. I hope it helps you, and glad you got a two week vacation to destress! Maybe that will make you feel a whole lot better! I sure hope so.
check in with you gals in a bit....
JB
littlejmb
07-06-2005, 10:22 PM
Calling in the Prayer Warriors!
My dentist's office called and they had a cancellation tomorrow afternoon and asked if I wanted to come in then rather than Monday. I was all for that, as I really didn't want to wait that long anyway. So - I'm starting to get a bit panicky about it now. Please say a prayer that I will be calm and that he will be successful in doing it, and that HE DOESN'T HURT ME!!! :eek: Please!
Thanks to all of you!
JB
My dentist's office called and they had a cancellation tomorrow afternoon and asked if I wanted to come in then rather than Monday. I was all for that, as I really didn't want to wait that long anyway. So - I'm starting to get a bit panicky about it now. Please say a prayer that I will be calm and that he will be successful in doing it, and that HE DOESN'T HURT ME!!! :eek: Please!
Thanks to all of you!
JB
Little Amy
07-06-2005, 11:46 PM
Jackie:
I'm headed to my prayer closet right now! You'll have a big guardian angel with you in the dentist's office, and many people praying! We expect a good report tomorrow evening!
Hellas:
Nice to hear from you again, and very sorry you are so stressed. I agree that the panic and anxiety are the worst - but very disheartened that getting through the change didn't even you out. I did read in that book "The Pause" last night that peri. symptoms can last for up to two years after you've officially gone through menopause. Sounds like you are taking a good approach in taking care of yourself for the next two weeks. Hang in there!
I forgot to get some Magnesium while I was at Walmart today, but will head back tomorrow and get some.
Have a good sleep everyone and a great day tomorrow. Don't worry Jackie, it's all gonna be fine.
Amy
I'm headed to my prayer closet right now! You'll have a big guardian angel with you in the dentist's office, and many people praying! We expect a good report tomorrow evening!
Hellas:
Nice to hear from you again, and very sorry you are so stressed. I agree that the panic and anxiety are the worst - but very disheartened that getting through the change didn't even you out. I did read in that book "The Pause" last night that peri. symptoms can last for up to two years after you've officially gone through menopause. Sounds like you are taking a good approach in taking care of yourself for the next two weeks. Hang in there!
I forgot to get some Magnesium while I was at Walmart today, but will head back tomorrow and get some.
Have a good sleep everyone and a great day tomorrow. Don't worry Jackie, it's all gonna be fine.
Amy
littlejmb
07-07-2005, 12:07 AM
Thanks Amy, I appreciate the prayers. I am going to get my hubby to drive me and I'm going to take a Xanax so I will be relaxed and hopefully not as scared. I hope it is as painless as your husband's tooth removal.
I will indeed report tomorrow night. I still have some of my pain pills left, so I will have them on hand in case I need them. I really don't know what to expect. Root Canal has always been horrifying words to me :eek:
I bid everyone a goodnight also. I'm going to read for a bit until I turn in. I always get sleepy after I start reading :yawn:
Hugs to everyone!
JB
I will indeed report tomorrow night. I still have some of my pain pills left, so I will have them on hand in case I need them. I really don't know what to expect. Root Canal has always been horrifying words to me :eek:
I bid everyone a goodnight also. I'm going to read for a bit until I turn in. I always get sleepy after I start reading :yawn:
Hugs to everyone!
JB
rmc12
07-07-2005, 02:35 AM
Hi Amy,
Yes it does sound like we are in the same boat peri wise. I am glad that The Pause is helping you as it does help me too and as I said I refer to it often.
The brain static you mentioned that was stated in the book..YES that is a great term for it, isn't it?!!
The anxiety, I agree is certainly the worst!!
I had a better day today, yes and hope it is a trend!!
Have a great day tomorrow!!
Take care,
rmc
Yes it does sound like we are in the same boat peri wise. I am glad that The Pause is helping you as it does help me too and as I said I refer to it often.
The brain static you mentioned that was stated in the book..YES that is a great term for it, isn't it?!!
The anxiety, I agree is certainly the worst!!
I had a better day today, yes and hope it is a trend!!
Have a great day tomorrow!!
Take care,
rmc
rmc12
07-07-2005, 02:44 AM
Hi Jackie,
Thanks for the post. You are right pampering always does help when we are feeling low like that. and yes having an understanding husband is like gold!!
I too read up on things as you do and research. Since I have cousins that hit the peri or menopause road before me I would hear them talk about irregular periods, but that was about it as far as what they connected to what they were going thru. Now looking back on it one cousin in particular she was having very similar things happen in her 40s and really it was peri but she did not realize it. I don't think they even called it that then. She is 8 years older than me. I read a bit about it and in the past few years have read a lot so you'd thiink I'd know a bit more than I do and that I would not be so anxious about things but I must be a slow learner!! LOL!!
I am going to have to answer your post and some others later or tomorrow as we seem to be having flashing lights again!! We lost power earlier, so don't want to be on the computer if that happens again. So will shut down and answer more later and also post to others at that time too. It is weird losing power as we do not have a storm.
Take care and thanks for the support. And you will be fine on Monday at the dentist!!
Hugs,
rmc
Thanks for the post. You are right pampering always does help when we are feeling low like that. and yes having an understanding husband is like gold!!
I too read up on things as you do and research. Since I have cousins that hit the peri or menopause road before me I would hear them talk about irregular periods, but that was about it as far as what they connected to what they were going thru. Now looking back on it one cousin in particular she was having very similar things happen in her 40s and really it was peri but she did not realize it. I don't think they even called it that then. She is 8 years older than me. I read a bit about it and in the past few years have read a lot so you'd thiink I'd know a bit more than I do and that I would not be so anxious about things but I must be a slow learner!! LOL!!
I am going to have to answer your post and some others later or tomorrow as we seem to be having flashing lights again!! We lost power earlier, so don't want to be on the computer if that happens again. So will shut down and answer more later and also post to others at that time too. It is weird losing power as we do not have a storm.
Take care and thanks for the support. And you will be fine on Monday at the dentist!!
Hugs,
rmc
littlejmb
07-07-2005, 09:41 AM
Hey Roxanne - they changed my appt to this afternoon, and I really am glad because I wanted to do it this week, but they didn't have any openings. They called me last night and had a cancellation and asked if I wanted to take it - so this works out better for me. I most likely will take tomorrow off and am only working until lunch today. Have another long weekend. I have five weeks of vacation and it's hard to take it all!!
Have a good day! :)
JB
Have a good day! :)
JB
molly123
07-07-2005, 12:55 PM
Hey Jackie,
I will be hovering over you while you're getting your teeth done today! A Tweey Bird will be sitting on your shoulders, making sure you're not going to get hurt! I'm glad your getting it done today instead of waiting till Monday - get it over with! This way, you don't to worry all weekend! You are tough little gal, it's not going to be as bad as you think, and it's not as painful (if at all even). I know the shots can be a bit scary but hang on, it lasts only a few seconds and if you got a good dentist, he will massage the gum area while he is doing the injection!
Do let us know when you get back!!
Hellas, One of the things that I noticed the most when I was having bad anxiety/panic during my peri time was that I needed to get away from anything and everything that was a carrier of bad news! I couldn't handle any work that had a last-minute rush deadline. I've always been able to multi-task and get a lot of good quality work done under pressure - but when I was at the peak of my peri symptomos, it really set me back big-time (made me feel even worse) and that's when I told my boss that I couldn't work like that anymore. I didn't know if it was going to be forever but it got to the point I had to stop working. This was really scary for me b/c it was so unlike me. I couldn't deal with work, feeling so bad, and trying to find out what was going on with me all at the same time. It sounds like your job is stressful and it will do you wonders to get away. Let's see if you see a difference while you're off. Use this time and take care and think of yourself. You posted that you actually felt better - it's probably because you know you're going to be off! :bouncing: And, if you don't want to be reminded of any of the menopause stuff, we'll understand if you don't post for a while.
molly :wave:
I will be hovering over you while you're getting your teeth done today! A Tweey Bird will be sitting on your shoulders, making sure you're not going to get hurt! I'm glad your getting it done today instead of waiting till Monday - get it over with! This way, you don't to worry all weekend! You are tough little gal, it's not going to be as bad as you think, and it's not as painful (if at all even). I know the shots can be a bit scary but hang on, it lasts only a few seconds and if you got a good dentist, he will massage the gum area while he is doing the injection!
Do let us know when you get back!!
Hellas, One of the things that I noticed the most when I was having bad anxiety/panic during my peri time was that I needed to get away from anything and everything that was a carrier of bad news! I couldn't handle any work that had a last-minute rush deadline. I've always been able to multi-task and get a lot of good quality work done under pressure - but when I was at the peak of my peri symptomos, it really set me back big-time (made me feel even worse) and that's when I told my boss that I couldn't work like that anymore. I didn't know if it was going to be forever but it got to the point I had to stop working. This was really scary for me b/c it was so unlike me. I couldn't deal with work, feeling so bad, and trying to find out what was going on with me all at the same time. It sounds like your job is stressful and it will do you wonders to get away. Let's see if you see a difference while you're off. Use this time and take care and think of yourself. You posted that you actually felt better - it's probably because you know you're going to be off! :bouncing: And, if you don't want to be reminded of any of the menopause stuff, we'll understand if you don't post for a while.
molly :wave:
littlejmb
07-07-2005, 02:55 PM
Thanks Molly! I will look for Tweety Bird to be on my shoulder :) I will let you gals know when I get back how it went. Gonna pop a Xanax in a little while so I will be good and relaxed. Funny, but the shots don't scare me at all - it's the drilling!!!
Take care and hope you're having a good day :)
JB
Take care and hope you're having a good day :)
JB
rmc12
07-07-2005, 04:51 PM
HI Jackie,
I am thinking of you and hoping all went well. I didn't read that right last night and still thought you were going on Mon.
I have not had a root canal but I did have two teeth extracted a couple years ago and was very nervous as you can imagine. But it was needless worry as it all went fine. Did not feel a thing and I had Novicane and that was it. I was not given anything to go to sleep although I could have if I wanted to. I listened to a tape of music that I brought with me and before 2 songs were over...it was done!! I came home had chocolate pudding and watched a movie and took some pain meds one evening and really did not need to but they suggested it.
So... I hope yours was as easy a thing and I am sure it was. Sending postive and soothing thoughts your way!!
Hugs,
rmc
I am thinking of you and hoping all went well. I didn't read that right last night and still thought you were going on Mon.
I have not had a root canal but I did have two teeth extracted a couple years ago and was very nervous as you can imagine. But it was needless worry as it all went fine. Did not feel a thing and I had Novicane and that was it. I was not given anything to go to sleep although I could have if I wanted to. I listened to a tape of music that I brought with me and before 2 songs were over...it was done!! I came home had chocolate pudding and watched a movie and took some pain meds one evening and really did not need to but they suggested it.
So... I hope yours was as easy a thing and I am sure it was. Sending postive and soothing thoughts your way!!
Hugs,
rmc
rmc12
07-07-2005, 05:08 PM
Hi Molly,
We had some sort of power outage last night so I was not able to respond then. Thought I would during my break right now.
Yes sinus headaches over one eye used to usher in my period for a long time. Always knew it was coming then. Really don't know why I complained about that at the time as that was a piece of cake compared to other symptoms!! don't get them too often but did this past weekend and Voila : my period did come.
I LOL that you could not sleep and were reading Before the Change!! You will be able to write your own book as we all will soon!! Yes that sounded just like you with menopause coming on abruptly, and then with others it said it is gradual. I know some women on here have said they started in their late 30s!! I am thankful I didn't or if I did I did not notice big changes that is for sure.
Wish I could take you up on the free tampons and pads offer!! Just stocked up at Costco yesterday!!
And of course you are right that I should not be shopping for clothes when I am in the midst of my period!! especially the first day of a tough one as this one was. It was amazing the difference one day made.
I do incorporate soy in my diet with soymilk, and soy butter (sparingly) and also soy nuts and bars. I had been doing a lot more of it though this past month so wondered if that would have an effect on me period wise. But I do not think it would be an adverse effect as it is supposed to be beneficial.
As far as sleeping goes...I have a harder time getting to sleep at times but when I get to sleep I usually get a good night's sleep and do not get up till morning. There were times last year that I was having a problem but it did not last long. I usually read before bedtime and that is relaxing and then I get sleepy.
I too take calcium chews as it is just easier than another vitamin.
You asked if I have got lazy about cooking. During the week we eat really simply..something grilled, a veggie and a salad. (TOnight chicken and veggies). But on the weekend I do enjoy cooking and trying new recipes , not all the time but on occasion. Guess it is a hobby for me. We are having visitors at the end of July and I am making a list of menus to have when they are here (yes an Aries thing to do too, I think!! LOL!!)
Thanks for your continual support and good words!! Hope you are having a good day.
Hugs,
rmc
We had some sort of power outage last night so I was not able to respond then. Thought I would during my break right now.
Yes sinus headaches over one eye used to usher in my period for a long time. Always knew it was coming then. Really don't know why I complained about that at the time as that was a piece of cake compared to other symptoms!! don't get them too often but did this past weekend and Voila : my period did come.
I LOL that you could not sleep and were reading Before the Change!! You will be able to write your own book as we all will soon!! Yes that sounded just like you with menopause coming on abruptly, and then with others it said it is gradual. I know some women on here have said they started in their late 30s!! I am thankful I didn't or if I did I did not notice big changes that is for sure.
Wish I could take you up on the free tampons and pads offer!! Just stocked up at Costco yesterday!!
And of course you are right that I should not be shopping for clothes when I am in the midst of my period!! especially the first day of a tough one as this one was. It was amazing the difference one day made.
I do incorporate soy in my diet with soymilk, and soy butter (sparingly) and also soy nuts and bars. I had been doing a lot more of it though this past month so wondered if that would have an effect on me period wise. But I do not think it would be an adverse effect as it is supposed to be beneficial.
As far as sleeping goes...I have a harder time getting to sleep at times but when I get to sleep I usually get a good night's sleep and do not get up till morning. There were times last year that I was having a problem but it did not last long. I usually read before bedtime and that is relaxing and then I get sleepy.
I too take calcium chews as it is just easier than another vitamin.
You asked if I have got lazy about cooking. During the week we eat really simply..something grilled, a veggie and a salad. (TOnight chicken and veggies). But on the weekend I do enjoy cooking and trying new recipes , not all the time but on occasion. Guess it is a hobby for me. We are having visitors at the end of July and I am making a list of menus to have when they are here (yes an Aries thing to do too, I think!! LOL!!)
Thanks for your continual support and good words!! Hope you are having a good day.
Hugs,
rmc
Hopefully
07-07-2005, 07:54 PM
I was going to start a new tread just to rave and rant about how I feel right now, but I'm just going to add it under the topic of "How I am Coping".
This is the week before my period and I've been on bcp continuously for two months. I have all the classic pmdd symptom times 200. I want to cry for no reason, my stomach feels queasy which is from the steroids that I took for 3 days, irritable, angry, short tempered (if someone even breaths too loudly they are likely to feel my wrath LOL), chills, hot, anxious, nervous, nauseated, sweating, sad, depressed, doom and gloom feeling, weepy, whimpy and whiny. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
I'm suppose to go 3 months without a period by taking the bcp continuously, but I'm going to stop just so that I'll start and hopefully relieve some of this emotional "stuff" that's occuring. I've been eating really well, and exercising more in the last two weeks or longer than I have all year. My dh and children can't even ask me a simple question without me feeling angry. Then I get upset with myself for feeling this way.
Ahhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!! My sweet dd told me to just go ahead and cry so that I'll feel better.
Thanks ladies for allowing me to rave and rant...I might be back tomorrow, hopefully not.
This is the week before my period and I've been on bcp continuously for two months. I have all the classic pmdd symptom times 200. I want to cry for no reason, my stomach feels queasy which is from the steroids that I took for 3 days, irritable, angry, short tempered (if someone even breaths too loudly they are likely to feel my wrath LOL), chills, hot, anxious, nervous, nauseated, sweating, sad, depressed, doom and gloom feeling, weepy, whimpy and whiny. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
I'm suppose to go 3 months without a period by taking the bcp continuously, but I'm going to stop just so that I'll start and hopefully relieve some of this emotional "stuff" that's occuring. I've been eating really well, and exercising more in the last two weeks or longer than I have all year. My dh and children can't even ask me a simple question without me feeling angry. Then I get upset with myself for feeling this way.
Ahhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!! My sweet dd told me to just go ahead and cry so that I'll feel better.
Thanks ladies for allowing me to rave and rant...I might be back tomorrow, hopefully not.
HELLASRULES
07-07-2005, 08:32 PM
Hopefully, can't those bcp make you feel that way, too? I never took them, but since they alter hormone patterns, I would think they could make you feel the way they do.
I was given just the progesterone when I was in peri to try an get it back on track, and they pretty much made me feel like that too.
Molly, Boy, I would love to just quit that job. The stress is over the top. Everything is time-sensitive and nothing ever hits your desk without a problem of some sort attached to it. Having all the work stress added to the anxiety and panic attacks of menopause is just a horrible mix. Since I felt good yesterday, I thought the 5-Htp I started taking was actually going to work! Guess it's too early, cause today was brutal at work.
But, you know what? the 5-Htp is definetly helping with the sleep problems. The other morning I woke up with the alarm. I was soaking wet, and slept right thru it!
ANd last night after 3 beers with dinner and a coke with all those vitamins I never even had to get up to pee! That in itself is a miracle. So I am going to keep taking it to see if my mood straightens out. IT should for the next two weeks, but July 25th when I walk into my office...will be the real test!
I'll have to re-read to see if I forgot to answer anyone...brain is fried after work today.
Check back in later.
Hellas
I was given just the progesterone when I was in peri to try an get it back on track, and they pretty much made me feel like that too.
Molly, Boy, I would love to just quit that job. The stress is over the top. Everything is time-sensitive and nothing ever hits your desk without a problem of some sort attached to it. Having all the work stress added to the anxiety and panic attacks of menopause is just a horrible mix. Since I felt good yesterday, I thought the 5-Htp I started taking was actually going to work! Guess it's too early, cause today was brutal at work.
But, you know what? the 5-Htp is definetly helping with the sleep problems. The other morning I woke up with the alarm. I was soaking wet, and slept right thru it!
ANd last night after 3 beers with dinner and a coke with all those vitamins I never even had to get up to pee! That in itself is a miracle. So I am going to keep taking it to see if my mood straightens out. IT should for the next two weeks, but July 25th when I walk into my office...will be the real test!
I'll have to re-read to see if I forgot to answer anyone...brain is fried after work today.
Check back in later.
Hellas
dogtired
07-07-2005, 08:40 PM
I am starting this thread as a discussion forum to help support all us ladies suffering from perimenopause and menopause. We are all in various stages of this journey and have many different symptoms, some of them even scary to us. Being able to vent your frustations, discucss and ask questions helps us to cope with this and to support each other, and also to learn more about what is going on with our bodies at this time.
I myself am in menopause. I am 51 and have been suffering with symptoms since I was about 45. I started out with skipping a period or two at first, started getting very nervous at times, very moody, etc. A few years later, the periods got farther and farther apart until one year - I went 9 months without one. This time I am 6 months without one. I didn't start having hot flashes and night sweats until last year, when I was 50. I started having periods of depression and anxiety then too that would last for a few months and then I would get better. It got so bad this year that I asked my GYN for help and he put me on Lexapro. I was at the point that I was not sleeping well because of the night sweats and was sinking into a deep depression, felt like crying all the time, hated myself and everyone else, everything seemed hopless and the empty feeling was scary to me. The Lexapro took all of that away and I feel wonderful now. I actually feel happy again, no more hot flashes or night sweats either!
Lots of ladies going thru this take HRT, but I was very scared of doing that, so opted to try the AD first, and it is working, so I will just stick with that and hope that I don't have to resort to taking HRT too.
Hugs to All,
Jackie
Jackie
Thanks for starting this thread and I'm glad you have found relief with
Lexapro.I'm 44 and have been going through a myriad of symptoms...
night sweats..hot flashes...insomnia...butter fingers and a total clutz..just started having periods every
two weeks that fluctuate between flooding and black old blood.But the
worst thing that has happened to me(and if anyone can relate please
speak up) is cursing....I've started cursing it just comes out of the blue
and I can't stand it.I feel like I've been possessed by a sailor.I'm waiting
for my lastest hormone tests to come back.I also have thyroid problems
so that just throws another ringer into the fire of sorting things out.
I myself am in menopause. I am 51 and have been suffering with symptoms since I was about 45. I started out with skipping a period or two at first, started getting very nervous at times, very moody, etc. A few years later, the periods got farther and farther apart until one year - I went 9 months without one. This time I am 6 months without one. I didn't start having hot flashes and night sweats until last year, when I was 50. I started having periods of depression and anxiety then too that would last for a few months and then I would get better. It got so bad this year that I asked my GYN for help and he put me on Lexapro. I was at the point that I was not sleeping well because of the night sweats and was sinking into a deep depression, felt like crying all the time, hated myself and everyone else, everything seemed hopless and the empty feeling was scary to me. The Lexapro took all of that away and I feel wonderful now. I actually feel happy again, no more hot flashes or night sweats either!
Lots of ladies going thru this take HRT, but I was very scared of doing that, so opted to try the AD first, and it is working, so I will just stick with that and hope that I don't have to resort to taking HRT too.
Hugs to All,
Jackie
Jackie
Thanks for starting this thread and I'm glad you have found relief with
Lexapro.I'm 44 and have been going through a myriad of symptoms...
night sweats..hot flashes...insomnia...butter fingers and a total clutz..just started having periods every
two weeks that fluctuate between flooding and black old blood.But the
worst thing that has happened to me(and if anyone can relate please
speak up) is cursing....I've started cursing it just comes out of the blue
and I can't stand it.I feel like I've been possessed by a sailor.I'm waiting
for my lastest hormone tests to come back.I also have thyroid problems
so that just throws another ringer into the fire of sorting things out.
HELLASRULES
07-07-2005, 08:52 PM
DogTired, We must be twins. Cursing like a sailer is pretty mild, compared to my outrages. I curse like a truck driver (many of whom I work with & probably learned it from). It's the hormone roller-coaster ride again. All ups & downs and Loop-d-loops!
Hang in there, and stick around here, cause most of us can relate, and maybe even help. I think the cursing thing stems from the anxiety part of it. And added stress just makes it worse.
Hoping you can find help in coping with this, either here or the drs.
Has to be an answer, or at least some real help for all these nasty feelings, and I think we can work on it together.
Hang in there OK?
Hang in there, and stick around here, cause most of us can relate, and maybe even help. I think the cursing thing stems from the anxiety part of it. And added stress just makes it worse.
Hoping you can find help in coping with this, either here or the drs.
Has to be an answer, or at least some real help for all these nasty feelings, and I think we can work on it together.
Hang in there OK?
Little Amy
07-07-2005, 09:52 PM
Hopefully:
I can totally understand all that you are going through, in fact, my husband was standing in the kitchen when I was reading your post and I said, "see if this sounds familiar", and he just laughed and said "oh yeah"! There isn't one part of peri. that is even the least bit amusing. A lot of times when I would get that way I would go take a hot shower and then crawl in bed with a heating pad and try to watch something very comforting like the old classic movie channel. There have been times that I would scour the house looking for an old stuffed animal and just hang onto it and cry in bed. The good news is that tomorrow you could feel much, much better. The only way I got through the stuff you described was by taking Xanax. But now I get acupuncture and it has made a major difference for me. Please hang in there, we are all here for you.
Dog Tired:
I too have experienced this "cursing syndrome", where I never cursed before. But sometimes the rage inside me is just overwhelming and the only thing that comes it is bad language! I'm not one to curse, but the anxiety and stress just makes stuff come out of your mouth before you can stop it. I'm glad you said something about being a butter fingers, because I just kept thinking it was old age or something! I guess it's just another enjoyable part of the peri! Take care.
Amy
I can totally understand all that you are going through, in fact, my husband was standing in the kitchen when I was reading your post and I said, "see if this sounds familiar", and he just laughed and said "oh yeah"! There isn't one part of peri. that is even the least bit amusing. A lot of times when I would get that way I would go take a hot shower and then crawl in bed with a heating pad and try to watch something very comforting like the old classic movie channel. There have been times that I would scour the house looking for an old stuffed animal and just hang onto it and cry in bed. The good news is that tomorrow you could feel much, much better. The only way I got through the stuff you described was by taking Xanax. But now I get acupuncture and it has made a major difference for me. Please hang in there, we are all here for you.
Dog Tired:
I too have experienced this "cursing syndrome", where I never cursed before. But sometimes the rage inside me is just overwhelming and the only thing that comes it is bad language! I'm not one to curse, but the anxiety and stress just makes stuff come out of your mouth before you can stop it. I'm glad you said something about being a butter fingers, because I just kept thinking it was old age or something! I guess it's just another enjoyable part of the peri! Take care.
Amy
Hopefully
07-07-2005, 10:27 PM
Amy, thanks for the comforting words :). I'm laughing at myself right now because the winds have shifted and I feel fine LOL. By fine I don't mean 100%, but surely not like that out of control woman who wrote that previous raving and ranting post :).
Amy, getting in bed with my stuff animals and watching something soothing on television sounds sooooo wonderful. Unfortunately, when I have one of those "spells" (isn't that what our great grandmothers use to call them?) I can not even sit still. By nature, before perimenopause, I am a very layed back, easy going, smiling, cheerful, bubbly, prankster with a fun loving sense of humor. Sigh, I sure miss being that woman 24/7.
I'm in the process of relocating, but once everything settles down I'm searching for an excellent (good just won't do anymore) doctor. I would like a doctor who believes in using natural and prescription medication because I've learned that they both have their place in maintaining my health.
Ladies thanks!
Amy, getting in bed with my stuff animals and watching something soothing on television sounds sooooo wonderful. Unfortunately, when I have one of those "spells" (isn't that what our great grandmothers use to call them?) I can not even sit still. By nature, before perimenopause, I am a very layed back, easy going, smiling, cheerful, bubbly, prankster with a fun loving sense of humor. Sigh, I sure miss being that woman 24/7.
I'm in the process of relocating, but once everything settles down I'm searching for an excellent (good just won't do anymore) doctor. I would like a doctor who believes in using natural and prescription medication because I've learned that they both have their place in maintaining my health.
Ladies thanks!
rmc12
07-08-2005, 02:24 AM
Hopefully,
So sorry to hear that you were feeling so low and believe me I've been there. It seems PMS during peri is so magnified and so LOOOOONNNNG!! So go ahead and vent all you want, we all understand. Very glad though to hear that you were doing better later. I went thru something similar 2 days ago. I felt awful one day , after getting my period at day 18 (after last month getting it at day 38) and just felt like I was in a black cloud!! Then the next day, I was much much better!!
I remember how the meds affected you I believe when you had bronchitis (I think that was you) and I do believe that like you said that can affect symptoms as the steriods might right now too.
When you said you have been eating right and exercising more than you had before, that sounds so much like me and that is why when I have been having this bad cycle this time I was puzzled as I thought I was doing everything right for myself and know I am. But I guess our hormones are just unpredictable.
Hang in there and vent all you want when you want...as we are all here for each other.
Take care,
rmc
So sorry to hear that you were feeling so low and believe me I've been there. It seems PMS during peri is so magnified and so LOOOOONNNNG!! So go ahead and vent all you want, we all understand. Very glad though to hear that you were doing better later. I went thru something similar 2 days ago. I felt awful one day , after getting my period at day 18 (after last month getting it at day 38) and just felt like I was in a black cloud!! Then the next day, I was much much better!!
I remember how the meds affected you I believe when you had bronchitis (I think that was you) and I do believe that like you said that can affect symptoms as the steriods might right now too.
When you said you have been eating right and exercising more than you had before, that sounds so much like me and that is why when I have been having this bad cycle this time I was puzzled as I thought I was doing everything right for myself and know I am. But I guess our hormones are just unpredictable.
Hang in there and vent all you want when you want...as we are all here for each other.
Take care,
rmc
littlejmb
07-08-2005, 09:54 AM
Hi Everyone! I tried posting last night but I was so loopy from the Xanax that I couldn't type! I'm such a lightweight when it comes to meds, they really knock me out. Well, I am sad to say that my dentist was not able to do the root canal on me yesterday, and is sending me to an endodontist. The roots had calcified and he didn't have the instruments to get through it. So - I've still the procedure ahead of me. I've got to call and make sure this lady is on my dental insurance. She has some kind of sonic equipment that pulses and breaks up the calcium so she can get thru it. DARN DARN DARN!!!
I came home, laid in the bed and got up and ate cold baked beans and tortilla chips for supper and went back to bed. lol Oh and a piece of my sisterinlaw's homemade CHOCOLATE pie! Had to pamper myself a bit, ya know? I was ravenous yesterday for some reason.
On top of that, our dryer went out on us and we had to go to Home Depot and got a new one. The nephew came down and helped hubby get it in so I'm good to go now. The coffee pot went out earlier in the week too. GEEZ!!
Hopefully, glad you are feeling better! The ups and down will just kill you won't they? I like the natural approach to things too. That's why an AD was last resort to me. HRT was not even an option, although I do use Premarin vaginal cream for the dryness.
Dogtired, that's about when my peri symptoms started to - at about 45. My nervousness and skipping periods here and there began at that time. I was 50 before I started the night sweats and hot flashes tho. I am extremely lucky that I never had the flooding that alot of women experience. I did have the black sticky blood some periods tho, and that was annoying. Never had the swearing like a sailor (but thought the words to myself, just didn't say them) or the really bad ones anyway :D You and AMy really started out with the bad symptoms early, I was blessed that I didnt.
RMC - imagine that black cloud with you all the time. that's what I was experiencing for months before I got on Lexapro. It was really that bad. Plus the extreme anxiety on top of it. Yeah for Lexapro and a sane and happy me!! My grandmother used to take something she called her "crazy" pill and then she would go to bed. They were little white pills. We never found out what they were, but I just wonder if they were valium or something....
Hey Molly, reserve Tweety Bird for my next visit. Did help yesterday tho!!
Hey Amy, the prayer helped tremendously - but I'll need it again :)
Check in on you guys later....
Jackie
I came home, laid in the bed and got up and ate cold baked beans and tortilla chips for supper and went back to bed. lol Oh and a piece of my sisterinlaw's homemade CHOCOLATE pie! Had to pamper myself a bit, ya know? I was ravenous yesterday for some reason.
On top of that, our dryer went out on us and we had to go to Home Depot and got a new one. The nephew came down and helped hubby get it in so I'm good to go now. The coffee pot went out earlier in the week too. GEEZ!!
Hopefully, glad you are feeling better! The ups and down will just kill you won't they? I like the natural approach to things too. That's why an AD was last resort to me. HRT was not even an option, although I do use Premarin vaginal cream for the dryness.
Dogtired, that's about when my peri symptoms started to - at about 45. My nervousness and skipping periods here and there began at that time. I was 50 before I started the night sweats and hot flashes tho. I am extremely lucky that I never had the flooding that alot of women experience. I did have the black sticky blood some periods tho, and that was annoying. Never had the swearing like a sailor (but thought the words to myself, just didn't say them) or the really bad ones anyway :D You and AMy really started out with the bad symptoms early, I was blessed that I didnt.
RMC - imagine that black cloud with you all the time. that's what I was experiencing for months before I got on Lexapro. It was really that bad. Plus the extreme anxiety on top of it. Yeah for Lexapro and a sane and happy me!! My grandmother used to take something she called her "crazy" pill and then she would go to bed. They were little white pills. We never found out what they were, but I just wonder if they were valium or something....
Hey Molly, reserve Tweety Bird for my next visit. Did help yesterday tho!!
Hey Amy, the prayer helped tremendously - but I'll need it again :)
Check in on you guys later....
Jackie
Little Amy
07-08-2005, 11:16 AM
Jackie:
Sorry that your dentist visit has to be redone. Maybe you won't be as anxious next time. And as far as the appliances breaking down - boy do I hear you. We lost our refrigerator and washer and dryer this year, had to have the oven and dishwasher repaired and a repairman is coming today to fix something on our brand new washer. Just crazy!!!
I wish SO much I could take Lexapro. I had taken Celexa (its original form) when I first started having all these troubles and I ended up in the emergency room several times with it, and the side effects were just awful for me. Oh well, I really believe other than the bad moments and days that show up now and then, that I really am for the most part SO much better. Hallelujah!
Still in prayer over your tooth, and let us all know when you go again. Have a great day.
Amy
Sorry that your dentist visit has to be redone. Maybe you won't be as anxious next time. And as far as the appliances breaking down - boy do I hear you. We lost our refrigerator and washer and dryer this year, had to have the oven and dishwasher repaired and a repairman is coming today to fix something on our brand new washer. Just crazy!!!
I wish SO much I could take Lexapro. I had taken Celexa (its original form) when I first started having all these troubles and I ended up in the emergency room several times with it, and the side effects were just awful for me. Oh well, I really believe other than the bad moments and days that show up now and then, that I really am for the most part SO much better. Hallelujah!
Still in prayer over your tooth, and let us all know when you go again. Have a great day.
Amy
littlejmb
07-08-2005, 12:37 PM
Thanks Amy!
My mouth is really sore from the deep shots he gave me yesterday. Geez - you really have had a tough year with appliances haven't you! So far for us, it's been having to have the riding lawnmower repaired ($230) the electric hedge clippers ($60 for new ones) the coffee pot, new tires for us both, and now new dryer. :eek:
Celexa and Paxil sent you to the ER didn't they? Surely there is something that you can take. Maybe if the 5 HTP works for Hellas, you might try it too.
Jb
My mouth is really sore from the deep shots he gave me yesterday. Geez - you really have had a tough year with appliances haven't you! So far for us, it's been having to have the riding lawnmower repaired ($230) the electric hedge clippers ($60 for new ones) the coffee pot, new tires for us both, and now new dryer. :eek:
Celexa and Paxil sent you to the ER didn't they? Surely there is something that you can take. Maybe if the 5 HTP works for Hellas, you might try it too.
Jb
Little Amy
07-08-2005, 01:57 PM
Jackie:
Sounds like you've had a good time with maintaining things this year too! What is 5 HTP? I read Hellas talking about it, but just never thought to ask about it. I've become so paranoid about taking anything that I guess I just automically assume I can't take it. I've done so well with the acupunture that I guess that's my way of getting through this. I am going to go get some Magnesium at Walmart today though.
Sorry about the sore mouth. All those shots for nothing...
Amy
Sounds like you've had a good time with maintaining things this year too! What is 5 HTP? I read Hellas talking about it, but just never thought to ask about it. I've become so paranoid about taking anything that I guess I just automically assume I can't take it. I've done so well with the acupunture that I guess that's my way of getting through this. I am going to go get some Magnesium at Walmart today though.
Sorry about the sore mouth. All those shots for nothing...
Amy
littlejmb
07-08-2005, 02:04 PM
Yeah - all those shots for nothing! My mouth is so sore! H HTP is a precursor to Seratonin and acts much the same way. Go to the net and look for some info about it. When I was going the herbal route, the owner of the nutrition store I go to recommended it, but I decided to try the Lexapro instead. Wait to see how Hellas fares on it first tho!!
molly123
07-08-2005, 04:05 PM
Hi Jackie,
Just got a minute here to say I'm sorry you didn't get your dental done and completely over with! When is your next appt? Didn't your dentist do x-rays first? I dunno what all this calcium buildup that we seem to be getting. First, me with calciums in my boob and now you have it in a tooth! And, ya know, it has nothing to do with us taking calcium pills either!
As with your appliances breaking down....when it rains, it pours, huh? If it isn't this, it's that! I just spent $850 on getting the AC fixed on my old car! Can't drive w/o AC! At least, we're not breaking down (not yet anyway!) but with my occasional stiffness/aches & pain, I often wonder! :D
I bet your grandmother was on Ativan - that's the pill they gave out in the old days for anxiety! It's a tiny little white pill!
Gotta go for now - but will try and catch up later! Hi and TGIF to all the other ladies out there (RMC, Amy, Hopefully, Maggie, Hellas....etc. etc. did I forget anyone? If so, blame it on menopause!).
molly :wave:
Just got a minute here to say I'm sorry you didn't get your dental done and completely over with! When is your next appt? Didn't your dentist do x-rays first? I dunno what all this calcium buildup that we seem to be getting. First, me with calciums in my boob and now you have it in a tooth! And, ya know, it has nothing to do with us taking calcium pills either!
As with your appliances breaking down....when it rains, it pours, huh? If it isn't this, it's that! I just spent $850 on getting the AC fixed on my old car! Can't drive w/o AC! At least, we're not breaking down (not yet anyway!) but with my occasional stiffness/aches & pain, I often wonder! :D
I bet your grandmother was on Ativan - that's the pill they gave out in the old days for anxiety! It's a tiny little white pill!
Gotta go for now - but will try and catch up later! Hi and TGIF to all the other ladies out there (RMC, Amy, Hopefully, Maggie, Hellas....etc. etc. did I forget anyone? If so, blame it on menopause!).
molly :wave:
HELLASRULES
07-08-2005, 09:01 PM
What is 5 HTP? I read Hellas talking about it, but just never thought to ask about it. I've become so paranoid about taking anything that I guess I just automically assume I can't take it. I've done so well with the acupunture that I guess that's my way of getting through this. I am going to go get some Magnesium at Walmart today though.
Amy[/QUOTE]
Hey Amy, Basically, from what I understand, 5-Htp is the precursor to seretonin. ...that hormone in the brain which makes you feel good, sleep good, etc.I've only taken it this past week, but am sleeping like a rock! Haven't slept this deeply since I took vicodin or ativan. Like you, I hate taking drugs, but this has b vitamins, magnesium,& valerian in it, so I said what the heck...I couldn't feel worse than I already did.
So, I'm sleeping great...but the jury is still out on the mood swings!
But do get the magnesium. It's not only could for nerves, but I 've found it helps with those nasty leg cramps I get at night. And it's good for the heart too.
Hellas
Amy[/QUOTE]
Hey Amy, Basically, from what I understand, 5-Htp is the precursor to seretonin. ...that hormone in the brain which makes you feel good, sleep good, etc.I've only taken it this past week, but am sleeping like a rock! Haven't slept this deeply since I took vicodin or ativan. Like you, I hate taking drugs, but this has b vitamins, magnesium,& valerian in it, so I said what the heck...I couldn't feel worse than I already did.
So, I'm sleeping great...but the jury is still out on the mood swings!
But do get the magnesium. It's not only could for nerves, but I 've found it helps with those nasty leg cramps I get at night. And it's good for the heart too.
Hellas
Little Amy
07-08-2005, 09:06 PM
Thanks Hellas for all the good info. Where do you get the 5-Htp?
Amy
Amy
HELLASRULES
07-08-2005, 09:19 PM
Amy, I got it a Target, but pretty sure Walmart has it too. Gonna go to Walmart myself tomorrow, cause my calcium & magneium are getting low.
And Amy, how did you find your acupuncturist? I hate drugs, just like you...and always have bad reaction, so I've thought about the acupucture many times, just don't know how you find one..that's good, ya know?
And Amy, how did you find your acupuncturist? I hate drugs, just like you...and always have bad reaction, so I've thought about the acupucture many times, just don't know how you find one..that's good, ya know?
Little Amy
07-08-2005, 11:14 PM
Hellas,
We are lucky to have one right in our town who is also a chiropractor. She, her father and brother all have their own chiropractic clinic here, so I just decided to take a chance on her. They also have a gym and wellness center, so I knew they were very proactive in healthcare. My neighbor is also getting acupuncture from her for the same reason I am, and is equally impressed with her results. But I bet you could look up acupuncturists on the internet and find one in your area, or call some local chiropractors because so many of them are doing it now.
I was just at Target yesterday and Walmart today - guess I'll have to head back for the 5-Htp. I'm glad I'm not alone in reacting bad to medicine. I think we are just very sensitive to lots of stuff, including all these hormonal changes. Blech!!!!
Amy
We are lucky to have one right in our town who is also a chiropractor. She, her father and brother all have their own chiropractic clinic here, so I just decided to take a chance on her. They also have a gym and wellness center, so I knew they were very proactive in healthcare. My neighbor is also getting acupuncture from her for the same reason I am, and is equally impressed with her results. But I bet you could look up acupuncturists on the internet and find one in your area, or call some local chiropractors because so many of them are doing it now.
I was just at Target yesterday and Walmart today - guess I'll have to head back for the 5-Htp. I'm glad I'm not alone in reacting bad to medicine. I think we are just very sensitive to lots of stuff, including all these hormonal changes. Blech!!!!
Amy
littlejmb
07-08-2005, 11:25 PM
Molly, I fell in love today! Hubby and I took Ginger to get her nails clipped and see about her chewing on her tail so much and while waiting, a lady came in with a 3 month old Yorkie pup. She was so pretty! I wanted to grab her and run off. She sat next to me and I got to hold her for a while. She was very well behaved and so sweet. The prettiest little face too. Sigh, every time I see a Yorkie puppy I want it! lol
Hellas and Amy, let me know how the 5 HTP works, because like I said, I started to try that first, so I'd like to know how it works.
RMC - been quiet today. You must be getting ready to head out on Sunday. Hope you're hanging in there ok!
Jackie
Hellas and Amy, let me know how the 5 HTP works, because like I said, I started to try that first, so I'd like to know how it works.
RMC - been quiet today. You must be getting ready to head out on Sunday. Hope you're hanging in there ok!
Jackie
rmc12
07-09-2005, 02:43 AM
Hi Jackie,
I am so sorry to hear that you could not get the procedure done! After all that it must have been a disappointment. What is an endodentist? Hope you can get an appt. soon and get it behind you
I bet your mouth was sore with the shots. Good for you that you pampered yourself with chocolate pie!! Sounds good!!. Chocolate always does the trick in any form!!
When you described how you felt like it was a black cloud the whole time before Lexapro..WOW...I am so glad you were able to take it and that it helps you so. I am fortunate that the clouds do not take over all the time but I did have a long spell of it last year and thought it would never end. It did fortunately. But I always worry it will come back to that extent. i try not to though.
Thanks for thinking of me and wondering how I was "hanging in there" ...I am much better than earlier in the week. Talk about black clouds!! LOL!! That one day I was not seeing anything in a good light that is for sure. I told you I went to try things on for our trip and had a very bad time of it. The next day had the exact opposite experience and in fact I am still deciding on which of two dresses to wear for our anniversary evening since they both look good! Quite the contrast to how I felt earlier this week. It is amazing what are hormones can do!!
I am hoping I won't get any weird period moods/symptoms on our trip. We leave Sun and will be back on Wed late. Really look forward to it.
Hope you have a great weekend. I see Hellas found us by the way...wonder what happened to Jenney?
Take care,
rmc
I am so sorry to hear that you could not get the procedure done! After all that it must have been a disappointment. What is an endodentist? Hope you can get an appt. soon and get it behind you
I bet your mouth was sore with the shots. Good for you that you pampered yourself with chocolate pie!! Sounds good!!. Chocolate always does the trick in any form!!
When you described how you felt like it was a black cloud the whole time before Lexapro..WOW...I am so glad you were able to take it and that it helps you so. I am fortunate that the clouds do not take over all the time but I did have a long spell of it last year and thought it would never end. It did fortunately. But I always worry it will come back to that extent. i try not to though.
Thanks for thinking of me and wondering how I was "hanging in there" ...I am much better than earlier in the week. Talk about black clouds!! LOL!! That one day I was not seeing anything in a good light that is for sure. I told you I went to try things on for our trip and had a very bad time of it. The next day had the exact opposite experience and in fact I am still deciding on which of two dresses to wear for our anniversary evening since they both look good! Quite the contrast to how I felt earlier this week. It is amazing what are hormones can do!!
I am hoping I won't get any weird period moods/symptoms on our trip. We leave Sun and will be back on Wed late. Really look forward to it.
Hope you have a great weekend. I see Hellas found us by the way...wonder what happened to Jenney?
Take care,
rmc
rmc12
07-09-2005, 02:57 AM
Hi Hellas,
Good to see you.
Sorry to hear that you havee had a bad time of it. I am also sorry to hear that you feel menopause for you has been worse than peri. I hate roller coaster rides too and that is surely what the hormone fluctuations feel like.
THanks for telling me in your earlier post which I didn't get to answer the other day, about the ups and downs of your periods before it stopped. It is frustrating that is for sure.
Refresh my memory, how old were you when your periods stopped?
Good for you that you are taking a 2 week vacation...sounds like just the thing to de-stress. You are right that with the additional stress at this time, it can't help having work stress added to the mix too. Thanks for the list of things you are taking. I take the Vitamin B also , calcium and acidopholus and flaxseed.
Good to see you post and hope you are enjoying your vacation time.
Take care,
rmc
Good to see you.
Sorry to hear that you havee had a bad time of it. I am also sorry to hear that you feel menopause for you has been worse than peri. I hate roller coaster rides too and that is surely what the hormone fluctuations feel like.
THanks for telling me in your earlier post which I didn't get to answer the other day, about the ups and downs of your periods before it stopped. It is frustrating that is for sure.
Refresh my memory, how old were you when your periods stopped?
Good for you that you are taking a 2 week vacation...sounds like just the thing to de-stress. You are right that with the additional stress at this time, it can't help having work stress added to the mix too. Thanks for the list of things you are taking. I take the Vitamin B also , calcium and acidopholus and flaxseed.
Good to see you post and hope you are enjoying your vacation time.
Take care,
rmc
rmc12
07-09-2005, 03:08 AM
HI Molly,
Just thought I'd say hello. Hope your beginning of the weekend is going well.
I am doing better as I said in my previous post, amazing what a few days can do when the hormones settle down!!
I am getting one of those one sided sinus headaches again tonight and hoping it is just allergies and not another period coming or an extension of this one.
Will be leaving on Sunday for our trip and hoping I will not be bothered by any peri junk but will not worry about it as you have often said and just not think about it!!
Have a good weekend!!
Take care,
rmc
Just thought I'd say hello. Hope your beginning of the weekend is going well.
I am doing better as I said in my previous post, amazing what a few days can do when the hormones settle down!!
I am getting one of those one sided sinus headaches again tonight and hoping it is just allergies and not another period coming or an extension of this one.
Will be leaving on Sunday for our trip and hoping I will not be bothered by any peri junk but will not worry about it as you have often said and just not think about it!!
Have a good weekend!!
Take care,
rmc
rmc12
07-09-2005, 03:11 AM
Hi Amy,
You mentioned the adverse reactions to drugs that you have had and I can relate also as I do not take pills well at all. I even have a hard time at times with vitamins. That is why I had not added magnesium sooner as I just felt , oh, another vitamin and some do not set well with me. But I do know it is good for you and so many have been helped by it.
Glad the acupuncture is working for you and it is something I have thought of also. At my chiropractor's office they have added one and a naturopath.
Hope you have a great weekend.
take care,
rmc
You mentioned the adverse reactions to drugs that you have had and I can relate also as I do not take pills well at all. I even have a hard time at times with vitamins. That is why I had not added magnesium sooner as I just felt , oh, another vitamin and some do not set well with me. But I do know it is good for you and so many have been helped by it.
Glad the acupuncture is working for you and it is something I have thought of also. At my chiropractor's office they have added one and a naturopath.
Hope you have a great weekend.
take care,
rmc
littlejmb
07-09-2005, 09:15 AM
Hi Roxanne, so glad to hear from you and happy that you are coping much better now than at the beginning at the week. Glad you are happy with your clothing selections also! I love to dress up, and wish I had somewhere fancy to go to do just that. Oh heck, I just love clothes anyway, lol. I was upset the other night when I got back from the dentist because Ginger was going nuts while hubby and nephew were trying to get the new dryer in the house, so I got her and took her in the bedroom with me and closed the door. Her long nails got caught in my favorite ankle bracelet and broke it!! If i hadn't been so heavily medicated on Xanax I would have cried.
You asked what an endodentist was - its a dentist the specializes in the root canals and anything to do with the roots of your teeth. Her office was closed yesterday but I am praying that I will be able to get in there next week to get the procedure done. You are right - my mouth is very sore. My dentist put my crown back on with temporary cement so I am having to chew everything on the other side, so it's really hard to eat right now. Just soft stuff. I went to the store and got some Marie Callender's lasagna for dinner last night. That is the best frozen lasagna and just right serving wise for two people. Tonight I am making beef strogonoff - pasta - pasta - pasta, lol
I have a overnight girl thing planned with my best pal, Polly and our other best pal Tammy that works in our Middleton, TN plant on Friday. I have gotten us a suite at one of the hotels I put people that are coming in to Memphis from our field offices. For every 10 bookings, I earn a free night and the sales mgr upgraded me to the suite! We are going to meet at lunch, go check in, go to the mall and have a light lunch, shop till we drop, and then go back to the hotel, rest and then go to Amerigo for dinner. It's an upper scale Italian restaurant in Memphis that is great, everything we are going to do is in very close proximity to each other which is nice too. Last September we, plus another friend went to Hot Springs, AR for a pamper trip. They are famous for the mineral baths and massages and shopping. We all needed it so bad and it was great. When I got home was when the first really bad depression set in. I am not sure why either. I remember going back to work that Monday morning and being so badly depressed and I hardly function. That lasted for about a month and then I started on something herbal and it got a whole lot better. Then I had small bouts here and there but had the really bad one again in Feb and then I threw in the towel by early March and went to my GYN. I can understand the fear of the dark cloud coming back. Unless you have been there, you just don't know what it is like. The despair is probably the worst feeling, everything just seems so hopeless. That scared me and it did my friends too. I am very fortunate that I could take the Lexapro and that is helps me so much!
I remember having a really bad depression in December - but then I started my period and then I laughed and thought - well - no wonder I was so depressed - I had genuine PMS!! lol The period was totally unexpected because I had not had once since my birthday - March 26, 2004. I was hoping for that one year mark.
I really do urge you to start taking the magnesium tho. It really is good for alot of things and it does not upset your tummy. I have the worst stomach in the world and it doesn't bother mine. My stomach has been bothering me the last couple of days though, not sure if it's from sinus drainage or what. I just took a Claritin to help ward it off today, hopefully. I've had the worst time with my allergies this year than I've had in a very long time.
I know you will be busy today, and I hope you have a great time in Vegas! Which Casino are you staying at? I am going to say a prayer for your safety and that your peri moods/symptoms hold off so you will have a wonderful time, ok? So you don't worry about a thing - it's going to be great! :bouncing:
Take care,
Jackie
You asked what an endodentist was - its a dentist the specializes in the root canals and anything to do with the roots of your teeth. Her office was closed yesterday but I am praying that I will be able to get in there next week to get the procedure done. You are right - my mouth is very sore. My dentist put my crown back on with temporary cement so I am having to chew everything on the other side, so it's really hard to eat right now. Just soft stuff. I went to the store and got some Marie Callender's lasagna for dinner last night. That is the best frozen lasagna and just right serving wise for two people. Tonight I am making beef strogonoff - pasta - pasta - pasta, lol
I have a overnight girl thing planned with my best pal, Polly and our other best pal Tammy that works in our Middleton, TN plant on Friday. I have gotten us a suite at one of the hotels I put people that are coming in to Memphis from our field offices. For every 10 bookings, I earn a free night and the sales mgr upgraded me to the suite! We are going to meet at lunch, go check in, go to the mall and have a light lunch, shop till we drop, and then go back to the hotel, rest and then go to Amerigo for dinner. It's an upper scale Italian restaurant in Memphis that is great, everything we are going to do is in very close proximity to each other which is nice too. Last September we, plus another friend went to Hot Springs, AR for a pamper trip. They are famous for the mineral baths and massages and shopping. We all needed it so bad and it was great. When I got home was when the first really bad depression set in. I am not sure why either. I remember going back to work that Monday morning and being so badly depressed and I hardly function. That lasted for about a month and then I started on something herbal and it got a whole lot better. Then I had small bouts here and there but had the really bad one again in Feb and then I threw in the towel by early March and went to my GYN. I can understand the fear of the dark cloud coming back. Unless you have been there, you just don't know what it is like. The despair is probably the worst feeling, everything just seems so hopeless. That scared me and it did my friends too. I am very fortunate that I could take the Lexapro and that is helps me so much!
I remember having a really bad depression in December - but then I started my period and then I laughed and thought - well - no wonder I was so depressed - I had genuine PMS!! lol The period was totally unexpected because I had not had once since my birthday - March 26, 2004. I was hoping for that one year mark.
I really do urge you to start taking the magnesium tho. It really is good for alot of things and it does not upset your tummy. I have the worst stomach in the world and it doesn't bother mine. My stomach has been bothering me the last couple of days though, not sure if it's from sinus drainage or what. I just took a Claritin to help ward it off today, hopefully. I've had the worst time with my allergies this year than I've had in a very long time.
I know you will be busy today, and I hope you have a great time in Vegas! Which Casino are you staying at? I am going to say a prayer for your safety and that your peri moods/symptoms hold off so you will have a wonderful time, ok? So you don't worry about a thing - it's going to be great! :bouncing:
Take care,
Jackie
littlejmb
07-09-2005, 11:21 AM
Amy,
Hope you're doing good, and still feeling on the high end of the peri roller coaster! I just wanted to tell you that I woke up early this am for some reason and I got up at 6:30, drank me some coffee and cut off one of my pairs of too short pants and made my first pair of capri's --- and they turned out great! I am going to do a couple of other pairs that are too short now. I am determined to be "constructive" today instead of destructive! lol So wish I could have gotten my dental thing finished up, and behind me - but still have to go thru more torture it seems.
Well - going to tan now, and be back in a bit. I went last night and they have changed their hours and they were closing! Hate when they do that!!
Molly - what are you and Kiwi up to today? Hope something fun. I wanted to ask you something. Does Kiwi have bladder problems? Ginger sleeps with me and she wets the bed almost every night. I got up and had to wash both sheets and my pillow case. She had done it really bad last night. I almost want to put a baby diaper on her when we go to bed! She does it obviously when she is asleep. I mentioned it to the vet once and he said that sometimes small dogs have trouble with that....??
Toodles - check back in ya later!
Jackie
Hope you're doing good, and still feeling on the high end of the peri roller coaster! I just wanted to tell you that I woke up early this am for some reason and I got up at 6:30, drank me some coffee and cut off one of my pairs of too short pants and made my first pair of capri's --- and they turned out great! I am going to do a couple of other pairs that are too short now. I am determined to be "constructive" today instead of destructive! lol So wish I could have gotten my dental thing finished up, and behind me - but still have to go thru more torture it seems.
Well - going to tan now, and be back in a bit. I went last night and they have changed their hours and they were closing! Hate when they do that!!
Molly - what are you and Kiwi up to today? Hope something fun. I wanted to ask you something. Does Kiwi have bladder problems? Ginger sleeps with me and she wets the bed almost every night. I got up and had to wash both sheets and my pillow case. She had done it really bad last night. I almost want to put a baby diaper on her when we go to bed! She does it obviously when she is asleep. I mentioned it to the vet once and he said that sometimes small dogs have trouble with that....??
Toodles - check back in ya later!
Jackie
Little Amy
07-09-2005, 11:31 AM
Hey Ladies:
Help, I need prayer....last night I had one of those awful nosebleeds and it took over an hour to stop it and then all I could do was lay in bed and shake and sweat, then chill and I couldn't sleep all night. Finally fell asleep for a couple hours this morning. These nosebleeds are coming about once a month almost like a period. This is so weird and frightening and none of the doctors I've seen have any explanation. My son and I are supposed to go to my mom's today and help her clean up her yard, but I'm SO scared to go. They live way down in the country and I'm just so weak and shaky I don't know how I'm going to handle this. Thanks for listening, if anyone has any insight or help, I'll look forward to your advice. I won't be able to respond to your posts until this evening when I get home though.
Amy
Help, I need prayer....last night I had one of those awful nosebleeds and it took over an hour to stop it and then all I could do was lay in bed and shake and sweat, then chill and I couldn't sleep all night. Finally fell asleep for a couple hours this morning. These nosebleeds are coming about once a month almost like a period. This is so weird and frightening and none of the doctors I've seen have any explanation. My son and I are supposed to go to my mom's today and help her clean up her yard, but I'm SO scared to go. They live way down in the country and I'm just so weak and shaky I don't know how I'm going to handle this. Thanks for listening, if anyone has any insight or help, I'll look forward to your advice. I won't be able to respond to your posts until this evening when I get home though.
Amy
molly123
07-09-2005, 11:34 AM
Hey RMC,
I really hope you have a good and safe trip on Sunday!! Have fun! :bouncing: Is Steve going with you? I've read in another post that the feeling of PMSing bothers you the most. It sounds like you feel you're having your period when you're not? And, if you're haivng a sinus headache again and you end up having another period, don't fetch over it!! Like I said you're periods will become really irregular to the point where even if you jot it down that's all you'll be doing - you won't be able to plan anything! It's probably a bummer, but that's how it is when you're on the road to meno.
As with my stiffness/aches, it has been like deep inside my right waist and hip bone area this week. All in all, it is 150% better than last year! Well, have a good weekend and don't ya worry about me!! :D
hugs, :wave:
molly
I really hope you have a good and safe trip on Sunday!! Have fun! :bouncing: Is Steve going with you? I've read in another post that the feeling of PMSing bothers you the most. It sounds like you feel you're having your period when you're not? And, if you're haivng a sinus headache again and you end up having another period, don't fetch over it!! Like I said you're periods will become really irregular to the point where even if you jot it down that's all you'll be doing - you won't be able to plan anything! It's probably a bummer, but that's how it is when you're on the road to meno.
As with my stiffness/aches, it has been like deep inside my right waist and hip bone area this week. All in all, it is 150% better than last year! Well, have a good weekend and don't ya worry about me!! :D
hugs, :wave:
molly
molly123
07-09-2005, 11:48 AM
Hi Jackie,
Keep in mind that when you are going thru meno, you might get a whole bunch of teeth problems! It really bugs me b/c I really make sure I floss and do all the right stuff and I'll always end up with some kind of teeth/gum issue. Isn't it frustrating to now have to go see someone else? It's like why can't your dentist do it all! Do let us know when your appt will be so we can send positive vibes to you!
As with your Ginger having bladder problems....how old is she? No, Kiwi doesn't have that problem but I remember the vet saying it is common for females to become incontinence when they get older - kind of like us - we get incontinence as we get older too!! LOL! My friend adopted a poodle mix dog years ago that they found half dead. It has a bashed right foot, no tail (someone yanked it off), and she is incontinence. She wears Huggie's baby diaper with one of those denim pants for dogs (usually used for females in heat) in the house. She gets wiped with baby wipes too. She is really good about it, will come right up and stand there while you change her! Anyway, I would get Ginger used to wearing a diaper, make sure you get those pants tho otherwise it won't hold. Think about not letting her have any water after a certain time too. The things we go thru with our babies, huh? They are worth it tho!!
Going to Costco this morning and will be having to do some work later today! What do you mean you're going to get a tan? You lay in the sun or you're going to a tanning place? Now, you know tanning can really age you!!
Gotta go for now but will check in later, see ya later alligator,
molly :D
Keep in mind that when you are going thru meno, you might get a whole bunch of teeth problems! It really bugs me b/c I really make sure I floss and do all the right stuff and I'll always end up with some kind of teeth/gum issue. Isn't it frustrating to now have to go see someone else? It's like why can't your dentist do it all! Do let us know when your appt will be so we can send positive vibes to you!
As with your Ginger having bladder problems....how old is she? No, Kiwi doesn't have that problem but I remember the vet saying it is common for females to become incontinence when they get older - kind of like us - we get incontinence as we get older too!! LOL! My friend adopted a poodle mix dog years ago that they found half dead. It has a bashed right foot, no tail (someone yanked it off), and she is incontinence. She wears Huggie's baby diaper with one of those denim pants for dogs (usually used for females in heat) in the house. She gets wiped with baby wipes too. She is really good about it, will come right up and stand there while you change her! Anyway, I would get Ginger used to wearing a diaper, make sure you get those pants tho otherwise it won't hold. Think about not letting her have any water after a certain time too. The things we go thru with our babies, huh? They are worth it tho!!
Going to Costco this morning and will be having to do some work later today! What do you mean you're going to get a tan? You lay in the sun or you're going to a tanning place? Now, you know tanning can really age you!!
Gotta go for now but will check in later, see ya later alligator,
molly :D
littlejmb
07-09-2005, 12:16 PM
Amy, prayers lifted up in your behalf. Hope you can feel them by now. I am going to do some research on nosebleeds and menopause and see what I can find out for you, ok? Let Dr. Broadway do some medical research, and my fees are very reasonable :D All I ask for payment is prayers in return :)
JB :angel:
JB :angel:
littlejmb
07-09-2005, 12:23 PM
Hi Molly :wave:
Ginger is 6 years old. She was almost two when we got her, and shortly after that she had to have surgery for bladder stones. I feed her Hill's Science Diet CD for bladder problems and she hasn't had an reoccurence of them. When she gets scared during storms or fireworks she wets herself bad, but has incontinence during her sleep too. I will look into the baby diapers and jeans to keep them on when we're asleep. She probably won't keep them on tho because she won't even keep her hair up in the cute pony tail on top like Yorkies have, she always scratches her barette or pony tail holder out! Little Minx! lol Yes, we do go thru alot with our babies, but like you said - they are so worth it!
I go to the tanning bed. I'm much too old to tolerate the heat and lay outside like I used to. I don't over do it though, and I use sun screen on my face. It actually helps with the oil and the breakouts on my face too. I don't do it year-round like alot of people do either. I don't want to end up looking like a old leather face!! You know, the flaxseed oil helps my skin too, I think it balances the oil production somehow and keeps you looking younger.
Jackie :wave:
Ginger is 6 years old. She was almost two when we got her, and shortly after that she had to have surgery for bladder stones. I feed her Hill's Science Diet CD for bladder problems and she hasn't had an reoccurence of them. When she gets scared during storms or fireworks she wets herself bad, but has incontinence during her sleep too. I will look into the baby diapers and jeans to keep them on when we're asleep. She probably won't keep them on tho because she won't even keep her hair up in the cute pony tail on top like Yorkies have, she always scratches her barette or pony tail holder out! Little Minx! lol Yes, we do go thru alot with our babies, but like you said - they are so worth it!
I go to the tanning bed. I'm much too old to tolerate the heat and lay outside like I used to. I don't over do it though, and I use sun screen on my face. It actually helps with the oil and the breakouts on my face too. I don't do it year-round like alot of people do either. I don't want to end up looking like a old leather face!! You know, the flaxseed oil helps my skin too, I think it balances the oil production somehow and keeps you looking younger.
Jackie :wave:
Little Amy
07-09-2005, 07:32 PM
God Bless You "Dr. Broadway"! I can definitely pay your fee!
I've looked and looked for things about nosebleeds and peri. and meno. and just have not come up with anything really concrete about it. Maybe I haven't looked in the right places. My ENT says that he's heard of women having nosebleeds during this time but there are no good studies to back up the fact that it can be part of peri. and meno. It's so darn frightening, and I try so hard to keep the faith and push through.
Thanks again for all your help. YOU ARE WONDERFUL!
Amy
I've looked and looked for things about nosebleeds and peri. and meno. and just have not come up with anything really concrete about it. Maybe I haven't looked in the right places. My ENT says that he's heard of women having nosebleeds during this time but there are no good studies to back up the fact that it can be part of peri. and meno. It's so darn frightening, and I try so hard to keep the faith and push through.
Thanks again for all your help. YOU ARE WONDERFUL!
Amy
HELLASRULES
07-09-2005, 08:24 PM
Refresh my memory, how old were you when your periods stopped
rmc[/QUOTE]
Hi Roxanne, As best I can remember I was 45-46, since I'm 50 now, and they stopped about 4 yrs ago. Not that my math is great,, but around that age as I recall.
The trip to Vegas will do you a world of good. Get your mind off the peri issues, and distract you from them. Sorry you had such a bad week too.
Short work weeks are the worst for me. Getting away would be just the ticket I think. Enjoy.
Hellas
rmc[/QUOTE]
Hi Roxanne, As best I can remember I was 45-46, since I'm 50 now, and they stopped about 4 yrs ago. Not that my math is great,, but around that age as I recall.
The trip to Vegas will do you a world of good. Get your mind off the peri issues, and distract you from them. Sorry you had such a bad week too.
Short work weeks are the worst for me. Getting away would be just the ticket I think. Enjoy.
Hellas
HELLASRULES
07-09-2005, 08:39 PM
Hey Ladies:
Help, I need prayer....last night I had one of those awful nosebleeds and it took over an hour to stop it and then all I could do was lay in bed and shake and sweat, then chill and I couldn't sleep all night.
Amy
Amy sorry you are having such a bad time with this. One of the few symptoms I missed out on somehow. You can add my prayers, too.
If it happens that bad again, get yourself to the ER and have them cauterize it. I can imagine how scary it is. Have you had your BP checked and it's OK?
Did anything precede it, like an anxiety attack, which could raise the BP enough to cause the nosebleed? I've only heard about this symptom here, so don't have any experience with it. I can only think I didn't get this because I was taking Vitamin E every day back then (while in peri), and it is supposed to keep your blood vessels nice and pliable. Just a guess. Because when I took the vitamin E i wouldn't get the blood vessels in my fingers bursting for no apparent reason.
When I stopped taking the E, I'd get it again. Just thinking out loud, here.
But Amy, my prayers are with you.
Hellas
Help, I need prayer....last night I had one of those awful nosebleeds and it took over an hour to stop it and then all I could do was lay in bed and shake and sweat, then chill and I couldn't sleep all night.
Amy
Amy sorry you are having such a bad time with this. One of the few symptoms I missed out on somehow. You can add my prayers, too.
If it happens that bad again, get yourself to the ER and have them cauterize it. I can imagine how scary it is. Have you had your BP checked and it's OK?
Did anything precede it, like an anxiety attack, which could raise the BP enough to cause the nosebleed? I've only heard about this symptom here, so don't have any experience with it. I can only think I didn't get this because I was taking Vitamin E every day back then (while in peri), and it is supposed to keep your blood vessels nice and pliable. Just a guess. Because when I took the vitamin E i wouldn't get the blood vessels in my fingers bursting for no apparent reason.
When I stopped taking the E, I'd get it again. Just thinking out loud, here.
But Amy, my prayers are with you.
Hellas
littlejmb
07-09-2005, 08:39 PM
Amy, I'm not so wonderful as I couldn't find anything about it either! I did find on some other board (not the health boards) where another lady said that she had nose bleeds during peri also. Another lady said that she had them and went to her ENT and he swiped the inside of her nose with something that stopped them. Has your ENT done any thing like that? I find it strange that there really isn't anything about it other than that on the internet! I am determined to dig somehting up for you though. Did the book you just got have anything about it? I have not received my copy yet, but bet it will come next week. I should have gone to the library today, but didn't think about it.
I know it scares you to death, I can't recall ever having one, but it would scare me too! Hang in there kiddo! Did you have them like that before Peri?
Hellas - your periods stopped awfully early - gosh you are one lucky duck! I am hoping to make it to the one year mark this time, but time will tell! I've gone as long as nine months before, so six months this time is nothing to get excited about. Hope you have a great vacation and destress. How are you doing with the 5 HTP?
JB
I know it scares you to death, I can't recall ever having one, but it would scare me too! Hang in there kiddo! Did you have them like that before Peri?
Hellas - your periods stopped awfully early - gosh you are one lucky duck! I am hoping to make it to the one year mark this time, but time will tell! I've gone as long as nine months before, so six months this time is nothing to get excited about. Hope you have a great vacation and destress. How are you doing with the 5 HTP?
JB
HELLASRULES
07-09-2005, 09:04 PM
JAckie, Well my Mom went thru meno right after she had me at 40, so must run in the family...plus never had kids and smoking affects it too, so they say.
The 5-Htp seems to work great for sleeping. I didn't wake up this a.m. till 8am and for me that is about 2-3 hours later than normal. SO i was either exhausted or it really does work. Did have one really bizarre vivid dream last night. If it happens again, I may have to stop taking it. I've found other drugs had the same effect on me.
So today I went out & got the Maca tincture, and also some Siberian Rhodiola Rosea, which is supposed to have some kind of effect on the stress.
We'll see...haven't tried them yet. You know me, still avoid treating this meno thing with pharmaceuticals!
The 5-Htp seems to work great for sleeping. I didn't wake up this a.m. till 8am and for me that is about 2-3 hours later than normal. SO i was either exhausted or it really does work. Did have one really bizarre vivid dream last night. If it happens again, I may have to stop taking it. I've found other drugs had the same effect on me.
So today I went out & got the Maca tincture, and also some Siberian Rhodiola Rosea, which is supposed to have some kind of effect on the stress.
We'll see...haven't tried them yet. You know me, still avoid treating this meno thing with pharmaceuticals!
Sissypie
07-09-2005, 09:17 PM
Amy,
I'm sorry that you are having to deal with nosebleeds. I had that happen a couple months ago, and it's very scary. I woke up out of a sound sleep, and was choking on blood. They were happening so frequently that I had to literally carry around peroxide in case one came on suddenly.
I did some checking, and found a couple places that talked about nosebleeds being triggered by sudden hormone changes. At the time, I wasn't sure if mine were from that or from my blood pressure being high. Mine just suddenly stopped, and I haven't had one for about 6 weeks.
I hope you are feeling better this afternoon, and that you are able to get some rest tonight.
Sandi
I'm sorry that you are having to deal with nosebleeds. I had that happen a couple months ago, and it's very scary. I woke up out of a sound sleep, and was choking on blood. They were happening so frequently that I had to literally carry around peroxide in case one came on suddenly.
I did some checking, and found a couple places that talked about nosebleeds being triggered by sudden hormone changes. At the time, I wasn't sure if mine were from that or from my blood pressure being high. Mine just suddenly stopped, and I haven't had one for about 6 weeks.
I hope you are feeling better this afternoon, and that you are able to get some rest tonight.
Sandi
Little Amy
07-09-2005, 09:30 PM
Hellas,
I've been to the ER several times and cauterized 4 or 5 different times and had to wear a sponge in my nose for a week to try to get my tissue to heal better. Blood pressure is low and these nosebleeds tend to occur late in the evening, left nostril only. You really peaked my interest with the Vitamin E. I will definitely start taking that. I'm on a good multivitamin, but I'll add more E. I've been seen by four different medical doctors for these and I hear "can't imagine what's causing this." I did use Afrin for many years in my teens through 30's and finally got off the stuff. I'm sure that has contributed to thin nasal tissue. My family doctor has said that whatever your particular weakness is, perimenopause will find it and torture you with it. I've had allergies all my life, but they have improved as I've gotten older.
Thanks for the prayers Hellas, I'm just so disheartened about all this. I've even resorted to taking stuff I'd read on a website, about a teaspoon of cayenne pepper, Vitamin C and Bioflavonoids to stop nosebleeds. I've tried punching myself in the arch of my left foot (also read on a website) and that doesn't work.
Jackie:
Thanks for looking and for your prayers. I've actually read the same things you have, and read with interest about the ENT that swabbed that ladies nose with something to shrink her veins. I've seen three ENT's and they've never said anything about that. My brother is a cardiologist and he doesn't think one thing about me having these nosebleeds. He just says, "Hey stuff dries out and breaks open, it just happens." Obviously a typical male doctor - the good news is his wife has yet to go through peri. so hopefully he'll get dose of what we are going through.
Thanks for your help friends, I just couldn't go through all this without you guys!
Amy
I've been to the ER several times and cauterized 4 or 5 different times and had to wear a sponge in my nose for a week to try to get my tissue to heal better. Blood pressure is low and these nosebleeds tend to occur late in the evening, left nostril only. You really peaked my interest with the Vitamin E. I will definitely start taking that. I'm on a good multivitamin, but I'll add more E. I've been seen by four different medical doctors for these and I hear "can't imagine what's causing this." I did use Afrin for many years in my teens through 30's and finally got off the stuff. I'm sure that has contributed to thin nasal tissue. My family doctor has said that whatever your particular weakness is, perimenopause will find it and torture you with it. I've had allergies all my life, but they have improved as I've gotten older.
Thanks for the prayers Hellas, I'm just so disheartened about all this. I've even resorted to taking stuff I'd read on a website, about a teaspoon of cayenne pepper, Vitamin C and Bioflavonoids to stop nosebleeds. I've tried punching myself in the arch of my left foot (also read on a website) and that doesn't work.
Jackie:
Thanks for looking and for your prayers. I've actually read the same things you have, and read with interest about the ENT that swabbed that ladies nose with something to shrink her veins. I've seen three ENT's and they've never said anything about that. My brother is a cardiologist and he doesn't think one thing about me having these nosebleeds. He just says, "Hey stuff dries out and breaks open, it just happens." Obviously a typical male doctor - the good news is his wife has yet to go through peri. so hopefully he'll get dose of what we are going through.
Thanks for your help friends, I just couldn't go through all this without you guys!
Amy
littlejmb
07-09-2005, 09:35 PM
Hellas, I hope you find a herbal cure for this meno thing - I was like you - trying to medicate myself naturally too, but finally threw in the towel and went with the precription AD. I will tell you this - the Lexapro gives me vivid dreams every night though. It's like watching a color movie every night. My hubby's mother had him when she was in her forties too. He's the youngest of 12! He's the baby boy. I can't imagine, as it was only my sister and I in my family, and I was an only child until I was 9 year old.
Little Amy
07-09-2005, 09:36 PM
Sandi:
I'm SO glad to hear from you. I remember you saying you had nosebleeds too. Did yours just show up with the perimenopause or have you had them all your life? Cause mine showed up with the peri. Last year I actually went 7 months without a nosebleed and then starting in January of this year, they have shown up almost every month, except March. Have you seen a doctor for yours, or just riding it out, and where did you read about the sudden hormone changes possibly triggering these?
I'm just SO glad you posted, because I just need to know I'm not the only whose experienced these. Anything you can tell me is much appreciated and again I'm just so glad to hear from you again!
Amy
I'm SO glad to hear from you. I remember you saying you had nosebleeds too. Did yours just show up with the perimenopause or have you had them all your life? Cause mine showed up with the peri. Last year I actually went 7 months without a nosebleed and then starting in January of this year, they have shown up almost every month, except March. Have you seen a doctor for yours, or just riding it out, and where did you read about the sudden hormone changes possibly triggering these?
I'm just SO glad you posted, because I just need to know I'm not the only whose experienced these. Anything you can tell me is much appreciated and again I'm just so glad to hear from you again!
Amy
littlejmb
07-09-2005, 09:43 PM
Amy, you know, I have horrible allergies also and I cannot use Flonase because it makes my nose bleed. It does something to my nasal tissues. Sometimes some of the other steriod nosesprays will do that too. That is the only time mine has bleed though, and way before peri. Sandi's explanation of hormonal surges makes sense - but not sure why it would cause it. I also read about the Blood Pressure thing too. I wonder if Ginkgo Biloba would help - it good for circulation and blood flow - but might make it worse. I'm going to check that out!
Dr. Broadway MD (working on my PHD!) LOL
Dr. Broadway MD (working on my PHD!) LOL
littlejmb
07-09-2005, 09:54 PM
Ok Amy - my medical book said that nose bleeds can be caused from dryness, allergies, high blood pressure for starters. It suggested take more Vitamin K to get your blood to clot to prevent them. It also suggested using an ointment inside the nose at the edge of the noistrils at bedtime. They suggested Borofax Oinment, A and D ointment, Mentholatum or Vicks Vapo Rub and Vaseline. Plenty to choose from! Another article said when the bleeding stopped, to take a vitamin E capsule and open it up and use a Q tip and swab inside the nose. Have you tried any of these?
onekidney
07-09-2005, 10:12 PM
Hi girls!!
Taking Paxil and Prempro. When the physical symptoms became really bad at 51, I started the HRT. At 52 I added the Paxil.
No menopausal symptoms whatsoever!! :wave:
Taking Paxil and Prempro. When the physical symptoms became really bad at 51, I started the HRT. At 52 I added the Paxil.
No menopausal symptoms whatsoever!! :wave:
Little Amy
07-09-2005, 10:14 PM
Jackie:
I used so much ointment last year that I ended up with a yeast infection inside my nose! I used Vitamin E oil for a while, but my new ENT wants me to just try saline solution, like Ayr Gel brand. Have been doing that for about 6 weeks faithfully, plus have a humidifier right by my bed. Vitamin K was the one I forgot, but do take now with the C and a teaspoon of cayenne pepper sauce. Which all leads me back to.....I really think this has to be a hormonal issue that is the trigger and only pray that as the hormones level out, then the nosebleeds will become fewer and far between and then nonexistent. The new book "The Pause" doesn't mention nosebleeds at all, and neither does my other two menopause books. But since nosebleeds are common in pregnant women because of hormonal changes, then why couldn't that also be the case for menopausal women?
Thanks again for your help Dr. Broadway - I would highly recommend you!
Amy
You're awesome!
Amy
I used so much ointment last year that I ended up with a yeast infection inside my nose! I used Vitamin E oil for a while, but my new ENT wants me to just try saline solution, like Ayr Gel brand. Have been doing that for about 6 weeks faithfully, plus have a humidifier right by my bed. Vitamin K was the one I forgot, but do take now with the C and a teaspoon of cayenne pepper sauce. Which all leads me back to.....I really think this has to be a hormonal issue that is the trigger and only pray that as the hormones level out, then the nosebleeds will become fewer and far between and then nonexistent. The new book "The Pause" doesn't mention nosebleeds at all, and neither does my other two menopause books. But since nosebleeds are common in pregnant women because of hormonal changes, then why couldn't that also be the case for menopausal women?
Thanks again for your help Dr. Broadway - I would highly recommend you!
Amy
You're awesome!
Amy
littlejmb
07-09-2005, 10:19 PM
Aw shucks, mam, thanks! You are right tho, if pregnant women have them - then why shouldn't perimenopausal women have them too. Well, all I can say is to pray for the hormones to even out! Truly wish I could be of more help to ya!
Dr JB :D
Dr JB :D
littlejmb
07-09-2005, 10:22 PM
Onekidney, Hi there!
I am glad you are symptom free with the HRT and Paxil. I am really scared of HRT, but with the Lexapro - I don't feel menopausal any more, yeah!! It took care of all my problems except for this weird head thing that I get. Good to hear from you!
I am glad you are symptom free with the HRT and Paxil. I am really scared of HRT, but with the Lexapro - I don't feel menopausal any more, yeah!! It took care of all my problems except for this weird head thing that I get. Good to hear from you!
dogtired
07-09-2005, 10:27 PM
DogTired, We must be twins. Cursing like a sailer is pretty mild, compared to my outrages. I curse like a truck driver (many of whom I work with & probably learned it from). It's the hormone roller-coaster ride again. All ups & downs and Loop-d-loops!
Hang in there, and stick around here, cause most of us can relate, and maybe even help. I think the cursing thing stems from the anxiety part of it. And added stress just makes it worse.
Hoping you can find help in coping with this, either here or the drs.
Has to be an answer, or at least some real help for all these nasty feelings, and I think we can work on it together.
Hang in there OK?
Thanks Hella and Little Amy..it's nice to know I'm not alone with the cursing
thing. :eek:
Hang in there, and stick around here, cause most of us can relate, and maybe even help. I think the cursing thing stems from the anxiety part of it. And added stress just makes it worse.
Hoping you can find help in coping with this, either here or the drs.
Has to be an answer, or at least some real help for all these nasty feelings, and I think we can work on it together.
Hang in there OK?
Thanks Hella and Little Amy..it's nice to know I'm not alone with the cursing
thing. :eek:
Sissypie
07-10-2005, 01:27 AM
Hi Amy,