WendiD
03-03-2002, 02:29 AM
Hi all! I am looking for a high protein/low carb meal replacement shake or bar to supplement my diet. Do any of you know of a good tastng shake or meal bar that has an accurate carb count? I hear that a lot of these products have hidden carbs.
I DO NOT want a product that contains soy. I am borderline hypothyroid and soy protein might cause me some problems. I guess whey protein would be my other option.
Thank you.
I DO NOT want a product that contains soy. I am borderline hypothyroid and soy protein might cause me some problems. I guess whey protein would be my other option.
Thank you.
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andreaphilip3
03-03-2002, 01:46 PM
wendi.
i also cannot use soy for the same reason. here is what i do. i take eaqual amounts of twinlab twinfast chocolate& equal amounts of carbolite choc. egg shake& mix them so i get a great tasting shake for like 3 1/2 carbs and 90 cals.
i also cannot use soy for the same reason. here is what i do. i take eaqual amounts of twinlab twinfast chocolate& equal amounts of carbolite choc. egg shake& mix them so i get a great tasting shake for like 3 1/2 carbs and 90 cals.
WendiD
03-04-2002, 12:33 AM
Great idea! Thanks for replying!
andreaphilip3
03-04-2002, 01:00 PM
no problem :)
Psikilla
03-05-2002, 09:15 PM
Best thing for you would be Optimum Nutrition's 100% Whey (Double Rich Chocolate is like drinking chocolate milk VERY good)
You can get a 5 lb tub for about 30 bucks, and it has 80 serving.
29 gram scoops, 23 grams protein, 3 carbs.
Take 3 times a day and you'll be set.
(On a side note, since you are supplementing with protein you wont lose *bodyweight* since you will be suppling your muscles with nutrients to grow BUT you WILL LOSE BODYFAT! So don't watch the scale just check the mirror OKIE?)
You can get a 5 lb tub for about 30 bucks, and it has 80 serving.
29 gram scoops, 23 grams protein, 3 carbs.
Take 3 times a day and you'll be set.
(On a side note, since you are supplementing with protein you wont lose *bodyweight* since you will be suppling your muscles with nutrients to grow BUT you WILL LOSE BODYFAT! So don't watch the scale just check the mirror OKIE?)
WendiD
03-07-2002, 01:11 AM
Hey! Thanks a lot! I will definitely try that one. It sounds good. So, even if I am cutting calories to lose weight, the number on the scale won't change at all? I figured it might now change much because I hope to be adding muscle, but I thought I might lose a little weight. I guess, as long as I lose a few inches, it won't matter.
So far, since cutting my carbs I have gained weight and inches. I am eating the same amount of calories, so I don't know what the deal is. Diet and exercise seems to NOT agree with me. Any ideas?
So far, since cutting my carbs I have gained weight and inches. I am eating the same amount of calories, so I don't know what the deal is. Diet and exercise seems to NOT agree with me. Any ideas?
andreaphilip3
03-07-2002, 02:08 PM
you need to replace those carb cals.
WendiD
03-07-2002, 11:39 PM
Huh? I'm eating the same amount of calories as I was before. More protein, less carbs. I thought cutting down on carbs would help me lose weight. Is it all or nothing with carbs or does cutting down help, too?
andreaphilip3
03-22-2002, 10:17 PM
wendi,
you sound confused. low carb is good(anything under 100) but you need to replace those carb calories or you wont lose weight. you need less carbsAND more protein.
you sound confused. low carb is good(anything under 100) but you need to replace those carb calories or you wont lose weight. you need less carbsAND more protein.
WendiD
03-22-2002, 10:19 PM
Hmm....That is exactly what I have been doing. Upping the protein is the only way that I can meet my calorie requirements. Why am I not seeing results?
andreaphilip3
03-23-2002, 12:09 AM
are u cutting the carbs too? im having prob too.
WendiD
03-23-2002, 04:03 AM
Yes.
andreaphilip3
03-23-2002, 01:50 PM
are u eating 60-100g fat?
WendiD
03-23-2002, 09:41 PM
AP3: No, I am not eating very much fat at all. I am getting most of my protein from turkey and chicken (white meat only), egg whites and protein shakes and bars. The carbs that I am eating are mostly green apples, grapefruit, fat-free cottage cheese and american cheese singles. In the morning I might have an english muffin with 1 piece of fat-free cheese. That would be about 140 calories, 1g fat, 24g carbs and 9g protein. Should I be eating more fat?
I am a 29 year old female, 5'2, 118# trying to lose the 10 pounds that I put on in the 2 months that I was on the Pill. I have always eaten nothing but junk food and around 3000-4000 calories per day, mostly carbs.
The Pill is the only thing that has ever made me gain weight and since I discontinued it (over a year ago) I can't gain or lose weight, no matter how bad or good I eat. I exercise a lot, but that doesn't seem to make a difference either. I really thought that drastically changing my diet like I have (down to 1300 calories a day and not all carbs like before), I would drop weight quickly since my weight was stable eating nothing but junk food and all carbs.
I made the diet change somewhat gradually, so I don't think my body is in shock or anything like that. Any ideas on why I am not losing?
The shakes that I drink after working out are whey protein. One of them has 196 calories, 1g fat, 3g carbs and 45g protein. The other has 110 calories, 1g fat, 3g carbs and 23g protein. Do these shakes sound alright?
Thank you for your replies. http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/redface.gif)
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I am a 29 year old female, 5'2, 118# trying to lose the 10 pounds that I put on in the 2 months that I was on the Pill. I have always eaten nothing but junk food and around 3000-4000 calories per day, mostly carbs.
The Pill is the only thing that has ever made me gain weight and since I discontinued it (over a year ago) I can't gain or lose weight, no matter how bad or good I eat. I exercise a lot, but that doesn't seem to make a difference either. I really thought that drastically changing my diet like I have (down to 1300 calories a day and not all carbs like before), I would drop weight quickly since my weight was stable eating nothing but junk food and all carbs.
I made the diet change somewhat gradually, so I don't think my body is in shock or anything like that. Any ideas on why I am not losing?
The shakes that I drink after working out are whey protein. One of them has 196 calories, 1g fat, 3g carbs and 45g protein. The other has 110 calories, 1g fat, 3g carbs and 23g protein. Do these shakes sound alright?
Thank you for your replies. http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/redface.gif)
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andreaphilip3
03-24-2002, 12:25 PM
Wendi,
yes you need to. Heres why: first of all, fat keeps you full :) id suggest other than lean proteins(kudos btw!) mostly, mayo&oils as these are the healthiest. little to no fat is a no no even on a high carb plan, but its essential to low carb, otherwise theres nothing to burn. im all for not eating more fat than needed, but id suggest between 50-100g.
yes you need to. Heres why: first of all, fat keeps you full :) id suggest other than lean proteins(kudos btw!) mostly, mayo&oils as these are the healthiest. little to no fat is a no no even on a high carb plan, but its essential to low carb, otherwise theres nothing to burn. im all for not eating more fat than needed, but id suggest between 50-100g.
andreaphilip3
03-24-2002, 06:30 PM
heres a ? for the opt. nutrition person. do u mix it with milk? is it really like drinking a milk shake or does it tastes like dirt? how do u know yr buyin double choc whatever?
sean
03-25-2002, 05:34 PM
HI,
I'd like to offer my opinion on the stubborn-refusal- to-fall-off thing that our weight does sometimes. here's a few possible expanations, absolutely none of which can i know really apply to you. but maybe:
1. your hormonal balance shifted in a fundamental way that may now be very difficult to change, or slow to change. this would mean you will simply never be able to go back to the way you ate before, or not for a long long time.
hope not. Then there's:
2. everyone is different, and maybe you are someone for whom the low-carb approach does not work. we know that low-calorie diets signal starvation mode (weight conservation) in some people. who is to say that low carbs don't have the same or similar effect in some other people?? i don't know. low carb works for me, but others say it does not for them.
3. many low-carb followers (especially strict Atkins) would say you must begin with an induction phase of fewer than 20 grams of carb per day, follow this for one or two weeks, to get the body's insulin balance and ketosis processes in gear for fat burning. after the induction phase, you can loosen up a bit.
So, you can live without the muffin for a week or two, no?
4. the previous writers are correct--you need more fat. extra virgin olive oil is very healthy. some dairy fat is fine--if this latter worries you, stay moderate with it, but have whole cottage cheese or american (yech--why not at least get some cheddar while you're up?) rather than low fat. you will certainly enjoy it more, and there is no way that little bit of mono-unsat. and sat. fat will hurt you. it will, in the meantime, fill a nutritional need (there is a reason we call some fats "essential fatty acids") and the low-carb approach will work better. [stay far, far away from trans-fats or hydrogenated fats as are found in many margarines and baked goods.]
5. Exercise, especially intense exercise, even for brief periods, seems to help most of us. Are you doing any of this?? there are lots of reasons--like cardiac and mental health--for doing this whether or not you lose weight, of course.
6. And finally, I offer this explanation: who knows??? Why do we sometimes go into "plateaus" following the same diet that lost us weight the month before, and will again the month after? Over the last four years I've been through several of these, and a few "spurts" where three pounds will leap off my body in a week or two, and I can't for the life of me explain any of it.
I've been through phases where exercising seems to add weight, and others where it seems clearly linked to weight loss.
I guess the body is quite variable and unpredictable on a short term basis. We can be more certain over the longer term (e.g., people who exercise more, month after month,over the years, tend to be thinner), but many mysteries remain.
didn't help much, i guess. perhaps i'm just counselling patience....seems to be generally required in these fitness issues anyway.
sean
I'd like to offer my opinion on the stubborn-refusal- to-fall-off thing that our weight does sometimes. here's a few possible expanations, absolutely none of which can i know really apply to you. but maybe:
1. your hormonal balance shifted in a fundamental way that may now be very difficult to change, or slow to change. this would mean you will simply never be able to go back to the way you ate before, or not for a long long time.
hope not. Then there's:
2. everyone is different, and maybe you are someone for whom the low-carb approach does not work. we know that low-calorie diets signal starvation mode (weight conservation) in some people. who is to say that low carbs don't have the same or similar effect in some other people?? i don't know. low carb works for me, but others say it does not for them.
3. many low-carb followers (especially strict Atkins) would say you must begin with an induction phase of fewer than 20 grams of carb per day, follow this for one or two weeks, to get the body's insulin balance and ketosis processes in gear for fat burning. after the induction phase, you can loosen up a bit.
So, you can live without the muffin for a week or two, no?
4. the previous writers are correct--you need more fat. extra virgin olive oil is very healthy. some dairy fat is fine--if this latter worries you, stay moderate with it, but have whole cottage cheese or american (yech--why not at least get some cheddar while you're up?) rather than low fat. you will certainly enjoy it more, and there is no way that little bit of mono-unsat. and sat. fat will hurt you. it will, in the meantime, fill a nutritional need (there is a reason we call some fats "essential fatty acids") and the low-carb approach will work better. [stay far, far away from trans-fats or hydrogenated fats as are found in many margarines and baked goods.]
5. Exercise, especially intense exercise, even for brief periods, seems to help most of us. Are you doing any of this?? there are lots of reasons--like cardiac and mental health--for doing this whether or not you lose weight, of course.
6. And finally, I offer this explanation: who knows??? Why do we sometimes go into "plateaus" following the same diet that lost us weight the month before, and will again the month after? Over the last four years I've been through several of these, and a few "spurts" where three pounds will leap off my body in a week or two, and I can't for the life of me explain any of it.
I've been through phases where exercising seems to add weight, and others where it seems clearly linked to weight loss.
I guess the body is quite variable and unpredictable on a short term basis. We can be more certain over the longer term (e.g., people who exercise more, month after month,over the years, tend to be thinner), but many mysteries remain.
didn't help much, i guess. perhaps i'm just counselling patience....seems to be generally required in these fitness issues anyway.
sean