I only want to lose 5 pounds and few inches off my waist. i know diet pills are not the way.. and eating a balance healthy diet including exercise will help. But i dont get hungry that much at all. I eat once a day pretty much. I drink lots of water, or at least I try to.
I am on Dexatrim .. and i lost few pounds. And im exercising a big deal.. and i havent seen any difference yet. Seems like i need to lose more than 5 pounds.
I want to know what diet pills have worked for u and how long did you see result. You dont have to tell me your whole story.. just which diet pills and how long till you saw result.. thanks a bunch!!!!
oh yea.. anyone tried the slim down drink or the hollywood diet drink? I took the latter, and i lost 4lbs in two days.. it wasnt good, cuz i was starvin marvin.
plz reply.. thanks!!!!!!
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bluetonic
07-06-2002, 03:38 AM
can someone please tell me!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
bluetonic
07-06-2002, 07:14 PM
Thank you both, i'll keep that in mind. =)
Nancy S+13
07-06-2002, 08:02 PM
Hi Blue,
For short-term weightloss I think something like Stacker 2, Metabolift, etc. is the best thing you can get without a prescription. They're not so great for you to take for very long, but if you take them only a couple of weeks you can easily lose the five lbs. I'm not sure how old you are so you might run into problems buying them. A lot of states have an age limit for buying stuff with Ephedra. Also, you want to read the warning label carefully and make sure it's not going to hurt your health. If used properly and only for the short-term I think Ephedra products are safe and effective for healthy people.
bluetonic
07-07-2002, 01:11 AM
I agree.. thanks!!! Im 21.
I'll go chk it out..
Xeles
07-14-2002, 12:46 PM
All those pills are unhealthy, unnatural! They are gimmicks and they just make people money, don't fall for it. You just need to cut back on carbs a bit, try eating less sugar (in any form) or bread or both.
The Guru
07-15-2002, 01:26 PM
For short-term weightloss I think something like Stacker 2, Metabolift, etc. is the best thing you can get without a prescription.
I personally think these things, particularly the Metabolift, are better than most of the prescription stuff. Look at Meridia, it works in similar fashion as an ephedra-containing stimulant.
If used properly and only for the short-term I think ephedra products are safe and effective for healthy people.
What's the evidence from reputable non-biased sources that ephedra is unhealthy for the normal individual long-term? Were you implying that ephedra is not effective long-term?
All those pills are unhealthy, unnatural! They are gimmicks and they just make people money, don't fall for it.
Do you have evidence from a non-biased source backing up this statement?
Xeles
07-15-2002, 02:51 PM
Well, I'd want to see evidence from a non-biased source backing up the safety of any pill (not influenced by political or corporate intrests) before I risk my health taking it. Why not eat a natural, healthy diet instead, trust nature.
The Guru
07-15-2002, 07:26 PM
Eating food is natural. Eating lots of food is still natural. One can eat whole and natural foods and still become overweight if they eat too much. Does this mean one of the possible consequences is a "natural" heart attack?
I am not in favor of accepting what nature has given to everyone. If I were, then we'd just let nature take it's course with anyone with an illness or condition. It's a situation of risk vs. benefit. Being overweight is a definite risk. Removing that risk is a benefit. I have yet to see that if used properly ephedra is a definite risk.
Xeles
07-15-2002, 07:53 PM
I think you missed my point. What I was saying is that we should not rely on drugs for health, health can be obtained naturally simply by living the way nature intended. If it wasn't set up to work that way, well how would any organism survive on it's own in nature?
Also, why take a drug which is not proven to be safe? It is my educated guess that all drugs, being a foreign substance to body, is not conducive to health. Drugs mainly mask or suppress a symptom(s) of the problem or attempt to solve the problem unnaturally which can lead to other problems.
Our bodies are programmed to take care of themselves, but we must not create too heavy a burden on our body and give it what is needed for optimal performance.
Bad health starts with bad nutrition and I believe it to be a mistake to solve health problems with drugs, that's just adding to the problem and making things worse. It's better to eat right and try avoiding as many toxins as possible and achieve true, long-term health rather than increasing the body's burden and and suppressing symptoms that will manifest as something worse later.
The Guru
07-15-2002, 11:39 PM
we should not rely on drugs for health, health can be obtained naturally simply by living the way nature intended. If it wasn't set up to work that way, well how would any organism survive on it's own in nature?
In terms of health, yes, I sometimes agree. Many diseases are fatal without the help of drugs. For these people, and they are many, life is the first priority and health is the goal.
Many organisms do not survive in nature, mostly from an inability to adapt to environmental changes. Such environmental changes may be internal or external. What do we do when it happens to those we love? Tell them sayonara and goodbye and too bad they didn't eat more apples? No, we do what we can to help ease their pain and suffering...even in cases where it was possibly self-imposed. In this day and age we do not have to rely only upon what nature doles out. This is why medical science is attempting to make advancements. Let science balance the scales of health when mother nature has failed. For those who think that being healthy is only a matter of degree of thin-ness, then that is their error. Health is a state that we cannot fully know. But we judge ourselves and others by outward appearances. If someone is of poor willpower with low self esteem and feeling unable to do anything about their situation, we should not judge them for wanting to do something to change their situation. To say just eating right will do the trick is ludicrous, although it is probably the answer for more than a few.
Also, why take a drug which is not proven to be safe? It is my educated guess that all drugs, being a foreign substance to body, is not conducive to health. Drugs mainly mask or suppress a symptom(s) of the problem or attempt to solve the problem unnaturally which can lead to other problems.
Why tell people NOT to take a supplement that has NOT been adequately shown to be unhealthy when it has been shown to be effective? I think we can come to the initial conclusion that obesity is far more dangerous than ephedra. In fact, I would dare say that aspirin is more dangerous when taken as directed than is ephedra. Not everyone can take aspirin, not everyone can take ephedra. We cannot say that just because it is not well suited for some that it is detrimental to the masses.
Our bodies are programmed to take care of themselves, but we must not create too heavy a burden on our body and give it what is needed for optimal performance.
And what would you suggest to be done when the body has inherent difficulties performing at optimum?
Bad health starts with bad nutrition and I believe it to be a mistake to solve health problems with drugs, that's just adding to the problem and making things worse.
You seem to be responding in theories and generalities. This statement can hardly be attributed to those born with genetic or predisposed obstacles to good health. Cornering this back to being overweight, what would you say to the man who was born with an inherited predisposition for being overweight? What about the man who cannot stop his urge to eat? Do you suggest that they remain overweight and more disease prone given that there is no "natural" and effective way to achieve better health or better weight? Telling someone an option is no good is a form of removing hope from someone. This is probably the worst thing that can be done with anyone in any situation. When hope is gone what happens to aspirations of bettering oneself? It all goes back to risk vs. benefit. The risk of morbidity and mortality associated with being overweight is far greater than most attempts to lose weight.
It's better to eat right and try avoiding as many toxins as possible and achieve true, long-term health rather than increasing the body's burden and and suppressing symptoms that will manifest as something worse later.
What symptoms are you referring to? All disease? I sincerely hope you weren't implying that. If so, I wonder how that statement would go over at the diabetes message forum.
While most people would agree that eating a well balanced diet is ONE of the keys to obtaining better health, do we stop all medical advancement in favor of just eating right instead? Remember that supposedly healthy people die every day and it surprises us. I think we've all heard of some similar story to the runner who dies while exercising even though he was in what we would call "perfect health". We can't even fully assess what it is to be in good health as we have not even begun to have a full understanding of the workings of the human body. Until then, we don't have a cookie cutter answer for everything...not even just eating right. Speaking of, who determines what is "eating right"? That cannot even be agreed on these boards just as they cannot be agreed to by the experts. Some feel eating right is a matter of eating animals. Other feel we must eat only fruits and vegetables. Some think that unless we eat food that matches up to our blood type that we are unhealthy. What's next, Eat right for your hair color? Give me a your diet journal and I will find something that is unhealthy that you should be doing without. The same goes for me and just about everyone else. No one is above theory and there are a million theories out there about which diet is right. What happens when the overweight person picks the wrong one?
Until such time as we can cure everyone of being overweight or diseased who are we to stand in judgement against those who are wanting to make a positive change? Do we blame them for wanting to better themselves or in some cases just remain alive? And if they do so, who do we think we are to criticize how they are trying to achieve a goal?
Judging people for how they choose to better their life...THAT is adding to the problem and making things worse...not drugs.
Xeles
07-16-2002, 09:27 AM
You just don't get it at all. Do you honestly believe that we are programmed to be diseased? The way people respond to a toxic environment is genetically programmed, we aren't programed to develope it we are programmed to manifest our bodie's reaction to a toxic environment in different ways. Nature does not program an organism to automatically develope any illness, that is total nonsense, it's insane! Are you saying that there is no such thing as total health? You're looking at it the wrong way. If we simply stopped doing what we're doing to cause the illness (think cause not symptom) then the illness will go away. Illness is a manifestation of the real, underlying problem. Conventional medicine suppresses the symptom of the problem until it accumulates and manifests as a more serious illness later. You might want to visit: http://www.angelfire.com/ny2/bass/disease-cure.html
~Tamrock~
07-17-2002, 09:58 AM
I took diet pills for a long time and I lost weight. I would eat a piece of toast in the morning down a full glass of water, (w/diet pill), eat tuna w/mustard, down some more water, maybe have a few crackers, for supper, eat what everyone els eats but a child size portion. and as always drink more water! And work out for at least 20 minutes everyday even 2x a day. You will drop the weight! My point is your body is going into the starvation mode if your only eating one meal a day and still not losing.:0 Try it for one week and see if it helps! K
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~Tamrock~
bluetonic
07-17-2002, 01:50 PM
thanks.. I'll give that a try, which diet pill did you take?
Right now, im not taking anything, just trying my best to eat healthy and do more exercises!
C.J.W. Fit
07-19-2002, 04:21 AM
Originally posted by Xeles:
All those pills are unhealthy, unnatural! They are gimmicks and they just make people money, don't fall for it. You just need to cut back on carbs a bit, try eating less sugar (in any form) or bread or both. 100% correct, I couldn't say it any better myself and this also goes for most of the fad diets too.