smithxi
08-22-2005, 10:37 PM
why do people tell me that eggs are bad for me if they're so high in protein?
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HELLASRULES
08-22-2005, 11:21 PM
Actually eggs aren't all that bad for you, as they once thought.
Whole eggs are full of protein, but yes, the yolk does have a lot of cholesterol in it (about 210mg).
But eggs also have a fair amout of B12, lecithin in eggs is rich in choline, an essential component of cell membranes & nerve tissue.
A lot of eggs are also from chickens which are fed antibiotics and other things you don't want in your food sources. Undercooked eggs can be contaminated with salmonella.
So there is good & bad to the egg. Like everything, moderation is key.
Whole eggs are full of protein, but yes, the yolk does have a lot of cholesterol in it (about 210mg).
But eggs also have a fair amout of B12, lecithin in eggs is rich in choline, an essential component of cell membranes & nerve tissue.
A lot of eggs are also from chickens which are fed antibiotics and other things you don't want in your food sources. Undercooked eggs can be contaminated with salmonella.
So there is good & bad to the egg. Like everything, moderation is key.
smithxi
08-22-2005, 11:37 PM
maybe i'll try some organic eggs.
is the starch in eggs bad?
is the starch in eggs bad?
rheanna
08-23-2005, 03:37 AM
maybe i'll try some organic eggs.
is the starch in eggs bad?
The three BASIC food groups which contain calories are: protein, fat, carbohydrates. Starch is a form of carbohydrate. There isn't any in eggs.
--Rheanna
is the starch in eggs bad?
The three BASIC food groups which contain calories are: protein, fat, carbohydrates. Starch is a form of carbohydrate. There isn't any in eggs.
--Rheanna
smithxi
08-23-2005, 09:30 AM
oh thanks for the help.
ratboy83
08-23-2005, 11:59 AM
not only are eggs high rich in protein but the protein is 93% useable by the human body. they are high in cholesterol but they contain lethithin, which is a fat and cholesterol emulsifier, meaning it prvents the content really being a major problem. nature'e clever like that.
alex.
alex.
smithxi
08-23-2005, 04:34 PM
oh cool fact. a friend told me that for all the protein a person eats that their body only absorbs half of it. i didn't believe it, but can someone explain what he means or if that is somewhat true and for what type or what foods.
tdot
08-23-2005, 04:40 PM
Studies now show that dietary cholesterol has very little effect on blood cholesterol levels. Saturated and trans fats affect blood cholesterol levels the most. The information that eggs are bad for you (because they are high in cholesterol) is OLD information and I really wish it would stop because eggs are very healthy, high in protein and tasty!
smithxi
08-23-2005, 11:21 PM
promote the egg!!!
what thinks have un-usable protein in them?
what thinks have un-usable protein in them?
auntjudyg
08-24-2005, 11:30 AM
smithxi, I think I know what your friend is referring to with the 50 percent business, but it is not quite true. Very simply: Protein is made up of amino acids. Some amino acids are produced in the human body. There are other amino acids that we must get from food, 9 of which are essential to be healthy. In order for the body to assimilate any of these 9 essential amino acids from food, they all must be present in the body in certain proportions. Eggs contain all 9 essential amino acids and are the food that comes closest to having them in the ideal proportions to be assimilated by the human body. So when we eat eggs, the body can assimilate most of the protein (I'll take ratboy's word that it is 93 percent).
Different foods have different proportions of amino acids and thus the body with assimilate different amounts of the protein. So, for example, a food label might say a food has 10 grams of protein, but because of the amino acid balance, we may only assimilate 7 grams of that . . . or in another food 3 grams.
In general, animal products have a better balance of amino acids to assimilate more of the protein (though with some meats we are assimilating a lot less than some people might think) than plant proteins. This does not mean that vegetarians cannot get sufficient protein. Amino acids do not all have to be present in a particular food to be assimilated, they have to be in the body. So if one food has less of one or more amino acids but another food has excess of the amino acid(s) in question, one can boost the amount of protein assimilated by making sure to eat both foods. In vegetarian circle, you will hear talk of "complete" proteins. A classic example is eating legumes with grains or corn.
Different foods have different proportions of amino acids and thus the body with assimilate different amounts of the protein. So, for example, a food label might say a food has 10 grams of protein, but because of the amino acid balance, we may only assimilate 7 grams of that . . . or in another food 3 grams.
In general, animal products have a better balance of amino acids to assimilate more of the protein (though with some meats we are assimilating a lot less than some people might think) than plant proteins. This does not mean that vegetarians cannot get sufficient protein. Amino acids do not all have to be present in a particular food to be assimilated, they have to be in the body. So if one food has less of one or more amino acids but another food has excess of the amino acid(s) in question, one can boost the amount of protein assimilated by making sure to eat both foods. In vegetarian circle, you will hear talk of "complete" proteins. A classic example is eating legumes with grains or corn.
ratboy83
08-24-2005, 12:04 PM
Studies now show that dietary cholesterol has very little effect on blood cholesterol levels. Saturated and trans fats affect blood cholesterol levels the most. The information that eggs are bad for you (because they are high in cholesterol) is OLD information and I really wish it would stop because eggs are very healthy, high in protein and tasty!
true say! three quarters of the cholestorol in the body i smade by the body itself. also, eggs actually raise HDL (good) cholestorol in the body, the type that lowers LDL (the bad stuff) dueto the lethithin. many peole buy lethithin in the health food store o work in to lower cholestorol in their bodies. eggs are the richest food source of lethithin.
alex.
true say! three quarters of the cholestorol in the body i smade by the body itself. also, eggs actually raise HDL (good) cholestorol in the body, the type that lowers LDL (the bad stuff) dueto the lethithin. many peole buy lethithin in the health food store o work in to lower cholestorol in their bodies. eggs are the richest food source of lethithin.
alex.
smithxi
08-24-2005, 07:38 PM
auntjudyg, can you list some examples of foods with incomplete proteins that would'nt be assimilated by the body because of their lack of amino acids? or examples of food that need other foods to be assimilated?
auntjudyg
08-25-2005, 11:00 AM
auntjudyg, can you list some examples of foods with incomplete proteins that would'nt be assimilated by the body because of their lack of amino acids? or examples of food that need other foods to be assimilated?
Just about every food has some (though perhaps just a tiny trace) protein and some of that is usable, the question is how much. I don't know of any table. Many, many years ago, Frances Lappe wrote a book, Diet for a Small Planet that explained things in more detail. I don't know whether it is still in print, though it must be available somewhere. Vegetarian sites talk about which plant sources to combine in order to boost protein assimilation. It is thought that if you get the various amino acids within a 24 hour period, the body will be able to use them (saw your question on the other thread).
Some "incomplete" protein sources include:
walnuts
sunflower seed
cashews
peanuts
pinto beans
rice
corn
oats
pasta
bread
potatoes
Just about every food has some (though perhaps just a tiny trace) protein and some of that is usable, the question is how much. I don't know of any table. Many, many years ago, Frances Lappe wrote a book, Diet for a Small Planet that explained things in more detail. I don't know whether it is still in print, though it must be available somewhere. Vegetarian sites talk about which plant sources to combine in order to boost protein assimilation. It is thought that if you get the various amino acids within a 24 hour period, the body will be able to use them (saw your question on the other thread).
Some "incomplete" protein sources include:
walnuts
sunflower seed
cashews
peanuts
pinto beans
rice
corn
oats
pasta
bread
potatoes
smithxi
08-25-2005, 12:12 PM
so i need to figure out what amino acids those cover, and what other foods i can combine them with within that 24 hour mark to get the other remaining amino acids to make proper use of the assimilation of these proteins. it really comes down to knowing all amino acids and then knowing which ones are in which foods. i'll do some searching when i get home later. thanks for the help.
auntjudyg
08-25-2005, 12:30 PM
smithxi, The research has been done already, really. Similar types of foods have similar excesses and/or deficiencies of particular amino acids. So, for example, by combining just about any grain with just about any legume you will have complete protein. Check out vegetarian sites for specific combinations.
smithxi
08-25-2005, 04:48 PM
so fish whole grain bread, and stir fry is a good combination dinner.
Kari7171
08-26-2005, 06:54 PM
I've read that whole wheat bread and peanut butter is a complete protein.
auntjudyg
08-28-2005, 10:49 AM
so fish whole grain bread, and stir fry is a good combination dinner.
Yes. (I was having a little trouble bringing myself to say "yes" considering another thread going about whole wheat, and considering that was probably what the bread was!)
Yes. (I was having a little trouble bringing myself to say "yes" considering another thread going about whole wheat, and considering that was probably what the bread was!)
smithxi
08-28-2005, 03:06 PM
excellent. i had an awesome fish meal yesterday that gave me tons of energy throughout the night at work.