mrmusicman79
08-24-2005, 02:57 PM
My story is kind of long, so I'll try to make it as short as I can. I suffered for years with severe acid reflux, I was eventually diagnosed with H. Pylori and given a round of treatment. The first try failed and I ended up having to take a second (and stronger) treatment of flagyl+losec+amoxycillin. Eradication of the H. Pylori was confirmed by (a very unpleasant!) endoscopy/biopsy last summer. After the first treatment, when the reflux started coming back, I was given Prevacid. At first it seemed like a wonder drug - I didn't have heartburn anymore and actually felt like eating. But whenever I tried to eat anything containing any decent amount of sugar, chocolate, etc (even chocolate chip cookies) I suffered with very unpleasant nausea, cramps, and diarrhea. It was clearly a side effect of the Prevacid. The only solution was to cut my diet down to the blandest things possible, and reduce the Prevacid to one every two days. That was years ago, and today I'm still eating the same small, bland diet designed to cater to my special needs. Breakfast consists of two or three pieces of toast and some bland crackers (Arrowroot). Lunch is usually a small bowl of rice and a bran muffin, and a few cookies that contain a bit more sugar. Dinner is a small 1/4 hamburger with no dressings at all (the way I've always eaten them, believe it or not) and some more cookies. The cookies can have some sugar and salt, but chocolate is a no-no. The Prevacid still gives me a lot of gas and prevents me from eating much. On days when I don't take the Prevacid, I can eat a bit more (including some slightly sweeter cookies) and have a bit less gas. However, if I stop the Prevacid for more than a day or so, the reflux starts coming back. I still have bowel problems from time to time, I still think it's the Prevacid (if I eat anything different like yogurt, I usually end up paying for it).
I made a post here some time ago asking about Mastic gum, i actually ordered a bottle a year ago and never took a single one! I blame an anxiety disorder which makes me terrified of side effects. I think anxiety is actually more of a problem than the reflux, at this point.
The only other thing I can think of is this; stop the Prevacid and replace it with a Magnesium/calcium supplement. That's what was recommended in a very popular thread on this board, some time ago. But just because it worked for that poster doesn't mean it would work for me........
I'm 26 years old now and my health is falling apart from years of malnutrition. I probably won't live to see 30 at this rate, and with my present quality of life I can honestly say I have little desire to. I can't sit for any length of time, travel any long distances, or even carry on a decent conversation (for having to bring up gas, spit, etc). Life has pretty much passed me by and even at my age, I'm regarded as little more than an eccentric recluse (who lives with his parents, of course). I'm pretty miserable to say the least and have all but lost hope at this point.
Thanks for any advice.
I made a post here some time ago asking about Mastic gum, i actually ordered a bottle a year ago and never took a single one! I blame an anxiety disorder which makes me terrified of side effects. I think anxiety is actually more of a problem than the reflux, at this point.
The only other thing I can think of is this; stop the Prevacid and replace it with a Magnesium/calcium supplement. That's what was recommended in a very popular thread on this board, some time ago. But just because it worked for that poster doesn't mean it would work for me........
I'm 26 years old now and my health is falling apart from years of malnutrition. I probably won't live to see 30 at this rate, and with my present quality of life I can honestly say I have little desire to. I can't sit for any length of time, travel any long distances, or even carry on a decent conversation (for having to bring up gas, spit, etc). Life has pretty much passed me by and even at my age, I'm regarded as little more than an eccentric recluse (who lives with his parents, of course). I'm pretty miserable to say the least and have all but lost hope at this point.
Thanks for any advice.
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diamond79
08-24-2005, 05:57 PM
Your post almost sounded like what I am experiencing. I am 26 as well. But I am taking Pantoloc(protonix in the US). I can not eat hardly anything without nausea, cramps, diahrrea (in that order too). I have been living off of crackers, plain bagels, plain toast, and arrowroot cookies that WERE suppose to be for my son(those things are addictive)...basically anything bland without spices, fat, grease.
I am awaiting the results of my H. Pylori breath test which I had over a week ago...but I'm guessing probably negative like all the other test results. I was told to stop taking the Pantoloc 48 hours before I had the breath test and within the first day the heartburn was back 1000 times worse, which led me to start taking them after the test just to stop the acid. I was on Pariet before that and Ranitidine before that. None of those 2 helped. The Pantoloc seems to be the best, but I still do get nausea and the burning sensation in the stomach from time to time.
I also have anxiety attacks alot. The first thing I do is read the side effects of the medications because I had a bad reaction to one I was taking to contol nausea. That incident made me "paranoid" to take any with more than headache as a side effect! :rolleyes:
I have been to a gastroenterologist and he could not figure out what was wrong with me. My family dr. is stumped and even admits I am too young to be having so many problems, but still can't figure out what it is. It feels like I have basically lost 2 years of my life because of these symptoms. I hate the thought of living the rest of my life like this and hope one day this will be figured out.
Have you tried taking another PPI? Some work for certain people while others don't. I find that Pantoloc and Pariet (Aciphex in the US) don't have that many side effects listed as Ranitidine and others.
Sorry to ramble on, but I just wanted to say that I sympathize with you. I am probably not much help, but know a little of what you are going through.
Hope you feel better soon and find some answers! :)
Donna
I am awaiting the results of my H. Pylori breath test which I had over a week ago...but I'm guessing probably negative like all the other test results. I was told to stop taking the Pantoloc 48 hours before I had the breath test and within the first day the heartburn was back 1000 times worse, which led me to start taking them after the test just to stop the acid. I was on Pariet before that and Ranitidine before that. None of those 2 helped. The Pantoloc seems to be the best, but I still do get nausea and the burning sensation in the stomach from time to time.
I also have anxiety attacks alot. The first thing I do is read the side effects of the medications because I had a bad reaction to one I was taking to contol nausea. That incident made me "paranoid" to take any with more than headache as a side effect! :rolleyes:
I have been to a gastroenterologist and he could not figure out what was wrong with me. My family dr. is stumped and even admits I am too young to be having so many problems, but still can't figure out what it is. It feels like I have basically lost 2 years of my life because of these symptoms. I hate the thought of living the rest of my life like this and hope one day this will be figured out.
Have you tried taking another PPI? Some work for certain people while others don't. I find that Pantoloc and Pariet (Aciphex in the US) don't have that many side effects listed as Ranitidine and others.
Sorry to ramble on, but I just wanted to say that I sympathize with you. I am probably not much help, but know a little of what you are going through.
Hope you feel better soon and find some answers! :)
Donna
mrmusicman79
08-24-2005, 07:48 PM
Consider yourself lucky you've only lost 2 years of your life to this - I've lost almost an entire decade! Up until about 3 or 4 years ago I could still function to a point (travel etc). The last 3 years however have been the darkest of my life.
Chances are you have H. Pylori also - it's actually a pretty common thing. With most people however, it's eradicated on the first try and they soon return to a normal life. That wasn't the case with me. Not only did it take aggressive drug therapy to remove the infection, but 9 years of untreated H. pylori left my stomach inflamed (the GI discovered this via the endoscopy). He figures that the inflammation is a lingering side effect of the H. Pylori, and is what's causing my current symptoms.
I know how embarassing it must be to eat "baby" food. Most two and three-year-olds I've met actually had a better diet than I have now. Even my 90-year-old grandmother has a well-balanced diet, and is more physically active than I am (probably the reason for her longevity!).
I'd just like to have my life back. To be able to do the things I'd like to do with it. Somebody will probably tell me that an easy solution is in reach, but I'm just too chicken to go for it. After living like this for so long, I don't know how I'd adjust to a "normal" life again......
Any further comments would be appreciated. Especially some advice as to the benefits of magnesium & calcium.....
Chances are you have H. Pylori also - it's actually a pretty common thing. With most people however, it's eradicated on the first try and they soon return to a normal life. That wasn't the case with me. Not only did it take aggressive drug therapy to remove the infection, but 9 years of untreated H. pylori left my stomach inflamed (the GI discovered this via the endoscopy). He figures that the inflammation is a lingering side effect of the H. Pylori, and is what's causing my current symptoms.
I know how embarassing it must be to eat "baby" food. Most two and three-year-olds I've met actually had a better diet than I have now. Even my 90-year-old grandmother has a well-balanced diet, and is more physically active than I am (probably the reason for her longevity!).
I'd just like to have my life back. To be able to do the things I'd like to do with it. Somebody will probably tell me that an easy solution is in reach, but I'm just too chicken to go for it. After living like this for so long, I don't know how I'd adjust to a "normal" life again......
Any further comments would be appreciated. Especially some advice as to the benefits of magnesium & calcium.....
mrmusicman79
08-29-2005, 02:26 PM
I did a little research on the subject. I determined that my only dietary source of magnesium is milk, and by this means I get about 30% of the recommended daily intake. Is that enough of a deficiency to cause problems?
If a magnesium supplement is the best idea, what kind should I look for? There are many different kinds in my local health foods store.
Also just how long does Mastic gum keep for? I opened my bottle a year ago to look (and wince at the size of) the pills, but never took a single one...
Just thought I'd push this thread back to the top of the board, in hopes of getting some replies.
If a magnesium supplement is the best idea, what kind should I look for? There are many different kinds in my local health foods store.
Also just how long does Mastic gum keep for? I opened my bottle a year ago to look (and wince at the size of) the pills, but never took a single one...
Just thought I'd push this thread back to the top of the board, in hopes of getting some replies.
Harry
08-30-2005, 02:41 AM
Hey Musicman--
Sorry that you did not do the things I suggested in the past--- If you had you may now have a normal digestive system--
It sounds like you still have several problems-- gastritis and a Candida/ Yeast overgrowth problem that only allows to eat very simple foods --- yeast thrives on sugary food -- it causes bloating, nausea, spasms/ cramping and diarrhea or constipation, fatique as well as brain fog.
The taking of strong antibiotics like flagyl & amoxicillin can readily cause all your problems --- They will kill the H.pylori bacteria but they also destroy the friendly bacteria your need for proper digestion.
Taking a PPI and reducing your stomach acid does help some people with gastritis but it does not help me as well as others--- we are all unique and react differently because of our immune system and constitution.
There is no medical tests available to determine if your intetinal Bacteria is normal or in balance but your reaction to sugary food is a sure SIGN that your friendly flora is badly out of balance.
Your intestines contain over 400 diferent strains of bacteria that need to be in balance--- taking a magnesium supplement is not goint to help that but about 80% of people lack magnesium in their diet and with your present diet you can't get enough in milk. Magnesium is requried to absorb calcium and it helps with all types of cramping as well as enzymes. It is also in every cell of your body-- and 67% is in your bones.
The daily requrement for magnesium is 400 mgrams -- it is best absorbed if taken in divided doses during the day. Magnesium in many forms are used as a laxative like --- Milk of Magnesia (contains magnesium hydroxide), Epson Salts (contains magnesium sulfate) and Magnium Citrate. As a laxative these are taken in large doses.
The small dose you take for nutrition should not cause any problem -- the organic types are best and easier to absorb-- asparate, oratate and the chelated type that is bonded to a protein amino acid glycinate & lysinate.
Sorry that you did not do the things I suggested in the past--- If you had you may now have a normal digestive system--
It sounds like you still have several problems-- gastritis and a Candida/ Yeast overgrowth problem that only allows to eat very simple foods --- yeast thrives on sugary food -- it causes bloating, nausea, spasms/ cramping and diarrhea or constipation, fatique as well as brain fog.
The taking of strong antibiotics like flagyl & amoxicillin can readily cause all your problems --- They will kill the H.pylori bacteria but they also destroy the friendly bacteria your need for proper digestion.
Taking a PPI and reducing your stomach acid does help some people with gastritis but it does not help me as well as others--- we are all unique and react differently because of our immune system and constitution.
There is no medical tests available to determine if your intetinal Bacteria is normal or in balance but your reaction to sugary food is a sure SIGN that your friendly flora is badly out of balance.
Your intestines contain over 400 diferent strains of bacteria that need to be in balance--- taking a magnesium supplement is not goint to help that but about 80% of people lack magnesium in their diet and with your present diet you can't get enough in milk. Magnesium is requried to absorb calcium and it helps with all types of cramping as well as enzymes. It is also in every cell of your body-- and 67% is in your bones.
The daily requrement for magnesium is 400 mgrams -- it is best absorbed if taken in divided doses during the day. Magnesium in many forms are used as a laxative like --- Milk of Magnesia (contains magnesium hydroxide), Epson Salts (contains magnesium sulfate) and Magnium Citrate. As a laxative these are taken in large doses.
The small dose you take for nutrition should not cause any problem -- the organic types are best and easier to absorb-- asparate, oratate and the chelated type that is bonded to a protein amino acid glycinate & lysinate.
mrmusicman79
08-30-2005, 10:41 AM
Does that mean Prevacid doesn't produce those effects, when sugary/greasy/etc foods are eaten? Then how come I feel better (less gas, can eat more) on days when I don't take the Prevacid?
Harry
08-30-2005, 11:43 PM
Prevacid has side-effects without eating much food. It can cause things like nausea, diarrhea and anytime you have diarrhea you can have intestinal cramping.
Foods that contain sugar donot require acid for digestion so a drug that reduces stomach acid should not be a problem for the digestion of carbs. The enzyme Amilase that is released and in your saliva as well as stomach digests carbohydrates.
Yogurt that you say causes problems-- should not cause problems. I think the friendly bacteria cultures in it is trying to help you re-colonize your intestines-- the milk sugar (lactose) is used up in the yogurt making process.
I think you should try taking a probiotic supplement -- like Cultruelle to re-colonize your intestines-- I take it daily and i have found it is really good. Jarro-Dophilus and PB-8 are also good.
If you are not having reflux problems that really cause burning in the esophagas it may be best to stop taking Privacid-- there are other types of PPI's that may cause you less side-effects.
If you don't like my support or advice then I think --You should get a Doctor that treats Candidiasis along with Gastritis. It may be hard to find but your progess has really not been that good since July, 2004.
As you know the diet you describe is not very good and you need to have a better diet with more vital & necessary nutrients that are digested and properly absorbed--- or you will suffer from malabsorption syndrome along with all sorts of problems --- from physical, emotional to mental problems.
As you may know optimum health begins with your GI tract being functional and what you eat, drink and absorb!
I have never taken Prevacid but have taken Prilosec with no side-effects and the longest time was 2 weeks. I know you live in Canada but in the States -- Prilosec is OTC drug.
God Bless---Harry
Foods that contain sugar donot require acid for digestion so a drug that reduces stomach acid should not be a problem for the digestion of carbs. The enzyme Amilase that is released and in your saliva as well as stomach digests carbohydrates.
Yogurt that you say causes problems-- should not cause problems. I think the friendly bacteria cultures in it is trying to help you re-colonize your intestines-- the milk sugar (lactose) is used up in the yogurt making process.
I think you should try taking a probiotic supplement -- like Cultruelle to re-colonize your intestines-- I take it daily and i have found it is really good. Jarro-Dophilus and PB-8 are also good.
If you are not having reflux problems that really cause burning in the esophagas it may be best to stop taking Privacid-- there are other types of PPI's that may cause you less side-effects.
If you don't like my support or advice then I think --You should get a Doctor that treats Candidiasis along with Gastritis. It may be hard to find but your progess has really not been that good since July, 2004.
As you know the diet you describe is not very good and you need to have a better diet with more vital & necessary nutrients that are digested and properly absorbed--- or you will suffer from malabsorption syndrome along with all sorts of problems --- from physical, emotional to mental problems.
As you may know optimum health begins with your GI tract being functional and what you eat, drink and absorb!
I have never taken Prevacid but have taken Prilosec with no side-effects and the longest time was 2 weeks. I know you live in Canada but in the States -- Prilosec is OTC drug.
God Bless---Harry
lex jude
08-31-2005, 12:14 AM
Am I the only one who has taken prevacid without any other types of side effects? It is AWEFUL without my prevacid....I've lived nine months without it (pregnant) and I CAN'T wait to be able to take it again!!! The heartburn and acid reflux is killing me, to the point where I have to chug maalox and eat tums like they are going out of style.
I guess it depends upon the person and how your body reacts...
I guess it depends upon the person and how your body reacts...
mrmusicman79
08-31-2005, 07:59 PM
About those probiotic supplements Harry....
I first started taking one along with my first H. Pylori treatment (PrevPac). It was a Wampole brand and it didn't seem to cause any adverse effects - but it didn't seem to do much good either, even though I took it for weeks afterward. This particular brand was eventually discontinued, and the only other one I could get was some off-brand type. This kind did not agree with me at all, it gave me bad gas and I just felt awful. I haven't taken any since.
At this point I'm not sure what to do. As for a probiotic, I'm wondering if yogurt could fill this need instead. After all, man survived for thousands of years without supplemental pills from the drugstore!
The only plan I can come up with at this point is this: stop taking the Prevacid, take a magnesium supplement instead, and find some kind of yogurt that will fulfill my dietary need for "good" bacteria. I once saw a suggestion for a pancreatic digestive supplement, whether or not that would help me I'm not sure.
I don't have nearly as much of an appetite on days when I take Prevacid, so at this point I'm convinced that it's doing more harm than good (or perhaps it's about even).
As for the suggestion of finding a specialist who treats Candidosis, this would probably require me to leave the country. The Canadian health care system has done all it can for me and is now just waiting for me to die so it will have one less person to pay for. There seems to be a serious lack of awareness, and available treatment, for such conditions in this country. Seems to be a serious lack of many other things in this country as well.....
All I know is that it's time to do something. There's no point in trying to get through life like this.
Thanks again for the advice.
I first started taking one along with my first H. Pylori treatment (PrevPac). It was a Wampole brand and it didn't seem to cause any adverse effects - but it didn't seem to do much good either, even though I took it for weeks afterward. This particular brand was eventually discontinued, and the only other one I could get was some off-brand type. This kind did not agree with me at all, it gave me bad gas and I just felt awful. I haven't taken any since.
At this point I'm not sure what to do. As for a probiotic, I'm wondering if yogurt could fill this need instead. After all, man survived for thousands of years without supplemental pills from the drugstore!
The only plan I can come up with at this point is this: stop taking the Prevacid, take a magnesium supplement instead, and find some kind of yogurt that will fulfill my dietary need for "good" bacteria. I once saw a suggestion for a pancreatic digestive supplement, whether or not that would help me I'm not sure.
I don't have nearly as much of an appetite on days when I take Prevacid, so at this point I'm convinced that it's doing more harm than good (or perhaps it's about even).
As for the suggestion of finding a specialist who treats Candidosis, this would probably require me to leave the country. The Canadian health care system has done all it can for me and is now just waiting for me to die so it will have one less person to pay for. There seems to be a serious lack of awareness, and available treatment, for such conditions in this country. Seems to be a serious lack of many other things in this country as well.....
All I know is that it's time to do something. There's no point in trying to get through life like this.
Thanks again for the advice.
Harry
09-01-2005, 01:49 AM
The problem in history --- they did not have strong antibiotics that you took and messed up the balance of the bacteria that inhabits your entire gastro system--- once they get out of balance -- you need special treatment to get them back to normal--- also years ago life expectancy was less than 40 years old but now it is 77.3 yo-- in 2004!!
Let me tell you something about Candida infections!!!
Most all yeasts bacteria thrives on sugary food and carbs turn to sugar in your mouth --- the candida albican bacteria germs overgrow and infect all your mucus membrane areas -- the mouth, esophagus ,stomach , small & large intestines and even your sinuses .
When you take something that kills them off too rapidly like a probiotic supplement or an anti fungal remedy or drug ---they die-off and the reaction produces toxic products from these dead organisms-- you re-absorb them and this will make your symptoms worse and you will feel awful --- the reaction is called a Herxhiemer reaction -- it can produce swelling and pain sorta like the flu. But, this is the healing-- re-balancing process. It is only temorary!!
Do some reseach on Candida Infection, anti candida diet, the yeast connection--- it is real and I think you have it big time.
The probiotic supplement that you took that didnot agree with your was a good die off reaction.
Yogurt can help if it contains alot of the cultures but not all yogurts are alike.
You can buy the probiotic supplements online --- Cultruelle, Jarro-dophilus, PB-8 and Pearls -- just like you bought Mastica. These are all good because I have to use them whenever I take an antibiotic for more than 5 days... I get the same symptoms as you DO w/o the diarrhea.
Let me tell you something about Candida infections!!!
Most all yeasts bacteria thrives on sugary food and carbs turn to sugar in your mouth --- the candida albican bacteria germs overgrow and infect all your mucus membrane areas -- the mouth, esophagus ,stomach , small & large intestines and even your sinuses .
When you take something that kills them off too rapidly like a probiotic supplement or an anti fungal remedy or drug ---they die-off and the reaction produces toxic products from these dead organisms-- you re-absorb them and this will make your symptoms worse and you will feel awful --- the reaction is called a Herxhiemer reaction -- it can produce swelling and pain sorta like the flu. But, this is the healing-- re-balancing process. It is only temorary!!
Do some reseach on Candida Infection, anti candida diet, the yeast connection--- it is real and I think you have it big time.
The probiotic supplement that you took that didnot agree with your was a good die off reaction.
Yogurt can help if it contains alot of the cultures but not all yogurts are alike.
You can buy the probiotic supplements online --- Cultruelle, Jarro-dophilus, PB-8 and Pearls -- just like you bought Mastica. These are all good because I have to use them whenever I take an antibiotic for more than 5 days... I get the same symptoms as you DO w/o the diarrhea.
mrmusicman79
09-01-2005, 02:33 PM
I did some research on the subject, and I must say what I found was not very encouraging. Most of the information I read was on a site selling "ThreeLac", supposedly the most effective form of Candida treatment. The site had lots of info on Candida infection, including this: it claims that with most Candida treatments, you have to stay away from all sugars, grains, and most meats. Come to think of it, that sounds like the instructions that were with the Mastica gum. However, ThreeLac supposedly does not require any special diet.
The bad news is that this ThreeLac stuff is expensive, especially since the company recommends taking a couple of their other products along with it.
Info on the same site stresses just how difficult it is to remove a Candida infection, so honestly it does not give me much hope. Based on what I read there, I expect that curing this infection will either be lengthy, costly, or unpleasant - or all of the above.
Do you think the info on that site (do a search for "ThreeLac") is factual, or are they just stretching things to sell their product?
The bad news is that this ThreeLac stuff is expensive, especially since the company recommends taking a couple of their other products along with it.
Info on the same site stresses just how difficult it is to remove a Candida infection, so honestly it does not give me much hope. Based on what I read there, I expect that curing this infection will either be lengthy, costly, or unpleasant - or all of the above.
Do you think the info on that site (do a search for "ThreeLac") is factual, or are they just stretching things to sell their product?
Harry
09-01-2005, 03:14 PM
I have taken ThreeLac and it does not work!!!
I don't think they have done adequate testing and they are trying to sell it-- you can even beome a distributor -- I think it is a multi level marketing scheme???
Google a search on Cultruelle-- that has really been studied and L. reuteri --- www.reuteri.com---
Do a search for Threelac on this board--- I posted a thread asking if anyone had used it???--
I don't think they have done adequate testing and they are trying to sell it-- you can even beome a distributor -- I think it is a multi level marketing scheme???
Google a search on Cultruelle-- that has really been studied and L. reuteri --- www.reuteri.com---
Do a search for Threelac on this board--- I posted a thread asking if anyone had used it???--
mrmusicman79
09-02-2005, 02:15 PM
Hmm, I kind of suspected the Threelac folks may be biased.
The only probiotic you mentioned, that I can locate in Canada, is the Enzymatic Therapy Acidophilus Pearls. Would this be as good as L. Reuteri?
I guess the biggest concern I have is that I'd need a "candida diet" (no sugars, grains, etc) while taking such probiotics. Is this true? Because I'd quickly starve without any bread or grain products!
The only probiotic you mentioned, that I can locate in Canada, is the Enzymatic Therapy Acidophilus Pearls. Would this be as good as L. Reuteri?
I guess the biggest concern I have is that I'd need a "candida diet" (no sugars, grains, etc) while taking such probiotics. Is this true? Because I'd quickly starve without any bread or grain products!
Harry
09-02-2005, 04:22 PM
Pearls is very good but it is only one culture --
You should be able to buy a good probiotic supplement in Canada.
Lactobacillus acidophilus in Pearl form is coated so that the culture does not get destroyed by stomach acid as it goes to your intestines where it is needed. Acidophilus is very important and the one that is mostly populated in your intestines and one that you really need.
Lactobacllillus reuteri is another completely different culture that serves a different purpose and is not affected by stomach acids while it gets to the intestines.
There are only 2 companies that sell this product in the USA--- Nature's Way and Nature's Sunshine.
Culturelle is Lactobacillus GG and is another culture that is not affected by stomach acids and it re-colonizes your intestines with friendly bacteria. It is very good.
I buy these all at the Vitamin Shoppe, vitacost and other online vitamin stores that may sell in them Canada???
It is difficult to cut out all sugar and carbs from your diet but you certainly can cut down on them alot. And I eat some fruit that has a form of sugar (fructose), rice daily and sometimes oatmeal w/ kefir that is also very good as well as yogurt that contains sugar.
An anti-Candida diet where you eat sugary food and some carbs without an anti--fungal drug or OTC remedy but just probiotics just takes longer to help and cure!!
Harry
You should be able to buy a good probiotic supplement in Canada.
Lactobacillus acidophilus in Pearl form is coated so that the culture does not get destroyed by stomach acid as it goes to your intestines where it is needed. Acidophilus is very important and the one that is mostly populated in your intestines and one that you really need.
Lactobacllillus reuteri is another completely different culture that serves a different purpose and is not affected by stomach acids while it gets to the intestines.
There are only 2 companies that sell this product in the USA--- Nature's Way and Nature's Sunshine.
Culturelle is Lactobacillus GG and is another culture that is not affected by stomach acids and it re-colonizes your intestines with friendly bacteria. It is very good.
I buy these all at the Vitamin Shoppe, vitacost and other online vitamin stores that may sell in them Canada???
It is difficult to cut out all sugar and carbs from your diet but you certainly can cut down on them alot. And I eat some fruit that has a form of sugar (fructose), rice daily and sometimes oatmeal w/ kefir that is also very good as well as yogurt that contains sugar.
An anti-Candida diet where you eat sugary food and some carbs without an anti--fungal drug or OTC remedy but just probiotics just takes longer to help and cure!!
Harry
mrmusicman79
09-02-2005, 07:34 PM
You know, a lot of things are starting to make sense. I now have to wonder if the H. Pylori ever had anything to do with my problems, and if it hasn't been this "imbalance" all along. My problems first started after being very ill with chicken pox (prolonged weakness - a cause of candidosis?) and slowly went downhill from there. Maybe this is what's been wrong all along.
I'm going to do a little more research first, but chances are I'll end up ordering some Culturelle since it seems to be well-proven. I'm wary of any brands which I can't research online......
I'll post one more reply shortly with some final questions, and then I think I'll finally be able to decide on a course of action. Hopefully.
I'm going to do a little more research first, but chances are I'll end up ordering some Culturelle since it seems to be well-proven. I'm wary of any brands which I can't research online......
I'll post one more reply shortly with some final questions, and then I think I'll finally be able to decide on a course of action. Hopefully.
mrmusicman79
09-05-2005, 02:31 PM
I've finally decided on what I think I should do. First, stop taking Prevacid and take a magnesium/calcium supplement instead. Second, take a probiotic regularly to correct the bacterial imbalance. Just two final questions:
1. Do I need to go on a "Candida Diet" while trying to correct the imbalance? My current sugar intake is less than 30g a day, along with some white, brown, or wholegrain bread. Other foods include rice and a small plain hamburger. I'd starve if I had to cut these items out.
2. Is it possible to find a good probiotic here in this country? A health foods store in town has about a dozen different types, but none are in the list you recommended. As long as they have the same content, are the basically the same? I'd much rather have a local source for a probiotic, as it would be much cheaper and more convenient.
Thanks once again for the advice.
1. Do I need to go on a "Candida Diet" while trying to correct the imbalance? My current sugar intake is less than 30g a day, along with some white, brown, or wholegrain bread. Other foods include rice and a small plain hamburger. I'd starve if I had to cut these items out.
2. Is it possible to find a good probiotic here in this country? A health foods store in town has about a dozen different types, but none are in the list you recommended. As long as they have the same content, are the basically the same? I'd much rather have a local source for a probiotic, as it would be much cheaper and more convenient.
Thanks once again for the advice.
Harry
09-06-2005, 02:32 AM
As you may already know -- curing a candida overgrowth problem is very difficult. I just know what has works for me.
The first book I read about candida/yeast problems was about 20 years ago it was -- The Yeast Connection By William G. Crook, MD-- Since then, I have read several others as more info comes to light --- it is very difficult to fine a Medical Doctor that even believes there is such a condition. So it is hard to find a professional to treat candida problems.--
I have found that following the Anti--Candida Diet is Best. That means to cut out foods that contain sugar including simple carbs. I suggest you read the book.
I have been using probiotic supplements for many years and have found that the ones with the same cultures are not always the same. I don't know about the probiotic supplements sold in Canada. But I am sure there are some available.
Heat affects them and they need to be keep/store in a refrigerator --- most go bad on the shelf at room temperature except for the ones I have found that don't and most have an exp. date (shelf life) even in a frige. If they are not stored in a refrigerator -- I would not buy them. At the healthfood store I use all probiotic supplements are in a refrigerator case.
Culturelle, PB-8, L. Reuteri & Pearls all say they do not need refrigeration and are not affected by stomach acid--- but they are still stored COLD at health food stores.
I am sure you can find this wording on the containers in Canada-- I have found it a waste of money to buy probiotic supplements that are not effective!
Also, getting them to your intestines through stomach acids so they are effective is a must. The ones I use are effective.
There is a thread about Candida on the Alternative Medicine board-- it may help -- it is 18 pages long-- with alot of different opinions about what works??
The name of the thread is " Does anyone here suffer from Candida"
I wish you well---Harry
The first book I read about candida/yeast problems was about 20 years ago it was -- The Yeast Connection By William G. Crook, MD-- Since then, I have read several others as more info comes to light --- it is very difficult to fine a Medical Doctor that even believes there is such a condition. So it is hard to find a professional to treat candida problems.--
I have found that following the Anti--Candida Diet is Best. That means to cut out foods that contain sugar including simple carbs. I suggest you read the book.
I have been using probiotic supplements for many years and have found that the ones with the same cultures are not always the same. I don't know about the probiotic supplements sold in Canada. But I am sure there are some available.
Heat affects them and they need to be keep/store in a refrigerator --- most go bad on the shelf at room temperature except for the ones I have found that don't and most have an exp. date (shelf life) even in a frige. If they are not stored in a refrigerator -- I would not buy them. At the healthfood store I use all probiotic supplements are in a refrigerator case.
Culturelle, PB-8, L. Reuteri & Pearls all say they do not need refrigeration and are not affected by stomach acid--- but they are still stored COLD at health food stores.
I am sure you can find this wording on the containers in Canada-- I have found it a waste of money to buy probiotic supplements that are not effective!
Also, getting them to your intestines through stomach acids so they are effective is a must. The ones I use are effective.
There is a thread about Candida on the Alternative Medicine board-- it may help -- it is 18 pages long-- with alot of different opinions about what works??
The name of the thread is " Does anyone here suffer from Candida"
I wish you well---Harry
mrmusicman79
09-06-2005, 02:22 PM
If I can't eat any sugar or grains at all, then what on earth am I supposed to eat?? I'd be willing to starve myself for a few days, even a couple of weeks, in the interest of curing this infection - but months?
All I want is to be able to eat normally again. That includes sugary foods too, though not in excess - just enough to be considered normal. Consider what I've lived with; I haven't eaten peanut butter, chocolate, ice cream, jelly, cake, or anything with more than a few grams of sugar per serving in almost 3 years! I haven't had a bedtime snack in almost 10 years! Whenever someone brings something sweet into the house I bluntly tell them to get it out of my sight. I can't sit for long periods of time or travel long distances because of gas and indigestion. You call this living??
I'm not trying to be rude here, I'm just so tired of living like this and not having any easy, or certain, solution available. Except perhaps for one - it's called suicide. If the rest of my life is going to be suffering like this, and searching for a cure that may or may not exist, I honestly don't want to live. I'm tired of the way my life is and I don't wish to carry this charade on any longer.
I am going to visit some health foods stores in town, and see just what options are available, and go from there. If refrigeration of probiotics is that important, I'd rather not risk ordering any through the mail. Either way, I'm going to do something about this very soon. This has gone on for far too long and it's time to do something about it.
I thank you anyway for your advice, even if it hasn't been all that encouraging. At least I have a clearer idea of where I stand right now, and I can make a more informed decision about what to do.
All I want is to be able to eat normally again. That includes sugary foods too, though not in excess - just enough to be considered normal. Consider what I've lived with; I haven't eaten peanut butter, chocolate, ice cream, jelly, cake, or anything with more than a few grams of sugar per serving in almost 3 years! I haven't had a bedtime snack in almost 10 years! Whenever someone brings something sweet into the house I bluntly tell them to get it out of my sight. I can't sit for long periods of time or travel long distances because of gas and indigestion. You call this living??
I'm not trying to be rude here, I'm just so tired of living like this and not having any easy, or certain, solution available. Except perhaps for one - it's called suicide. If the rest of my life is going to be suffering like this, and searching for a cure that may or may not exist, I honestly don't want to live. I'm tired of the way my life is and I don't wish to carry this charade on any longer.
I am going to visit some health foods stores in town, and see just what options are available, and go from there. If refrigeration of probiotics is that important, I'd rather not risk ordering any through the mail. Either way, I'm going to do something about this very soon. This has gone on for far too long and it's time to do something about it.
I thank you anyway for your advice, even if it hasn't been all that encouraging. At least I have a clearer idea of where I stand right now, and I can make a more informed decision about what to do.
Harry
09-06-2005, 03:44 PM
It is a curable problem--- I have Gran children almost as old as you and I retired when you were 8 years old so you are very young by my standards and can look forward to a good life if you get the candida under control so life can be normal.
The Candida Control Diet is Basically like The Atkins Diet, the Zone Diet, South Beach Diet and Protein Power Diet and several others --- you basically eat Veggies and Meats ( beef, pork, poultry & seafood), some whole grains and Nuts & Seeds.
There are anti-fungal drugs available and OTC remedies that kill candida/yeast bacteria but none work completely -- I think because these bacteria mutate very readily and you have to change them to be effective.
I have found that taking probiotic supplements can cure you if you take the right kind and enough of them daily and eat properly.
The Candida Control Diet is Basically like The Atkins Diet, the Zone Diet, South Beach Diet and Protein Power Diet and several others --- you basically eat Veggies and Meats ( beef, pork, poultry & seafood), some whole grains and Nuts & Seeds.
There are anti-fungal drugs available and OTC remedies that kill candida/yeast bacteria but none work completely -- I think because these bacteria mutate very readily and you have to change them to be effective.
I have found that taking probiotic supplements can cure you if you take the right kind and enough of them daily and eat properly.
mrmusicman79
09-07-2005, 07:34 PM
I know you must be getting tired of my questions, but I have a couple more. I did some more research, and one site suggested that priobiotics and a candida diet aren't usually enough - further action is needed to change the environment that the candida live in. It also said that the candida can reside in other organs such as the gallbladder.
One site gave a specific candida diet, but it didn't specify whether that was while taking a probiotic or not. Most of the diet isn't a problem but eliminating breads and sugars would leave me with very little to eat.
What I don't want is to keep running around in circles, trying one thing after the other in hopes of finding a cure. I just want to be able to do something that I know will work!
There's such a lack of awareness about this problem, and most information that is available is so confusing and - honestly - discouraging.
I hope to get to town on the weekend where I can check out some health food stores, and go from there. But I must admit that the more research I do, the more discouraged I'm becoming. I honestly think it would be better for everyone if I just bought the farm now rather than drag this charade on, and continue to be a burden to my family.
Don't mean to sound so negative but you must understand how discouraged I am right now.
One site gave a specific candida diet, but it didn't specify whether that was while taking a probiotic or not. Most of the diet isn't a problem but eliminating breads and sugars would leave me with very little to eat.
What I don't want is to keep running around in circles, trying one thing after the other in hopes of finding a cure. I just want to be able to do something that I know will work!
There's such a lack of awareness about this problem, and most information that is available is so confusing and - honestly - discouraging.
I hope to get to town on the weekend where I can check out some health food stores, and go from there. But I must admit that the more research I do, the more discouraged I'm becoming. I honestly think it would be better for everyone if I just bought the farm now rather than drag this charade on, and continue to be a burden to my family.
Don't mean to sound so negative but you must understand how discouraged I am right now.
Harry
09-08-2005, 01:44 PM
Any health problem that is not being treated properly is very discouraging to say the least.
This is a good story??
I had chronic diverticuar infections for many years (about 30) then I was put on an anti blood clotting drug so as not to have strokes-- 6 months later I began chronic diverticular bleeding that would not stop-- I lost half my blood and almost died one night-- but ended up having 2 1/2 feet of my colon surgically remove on 3/4/2002 in an emergency type operation-- During the prior 10 years I saw 8 different gasto doctors -- not one ever suggested that I have a colon resection to take care of the diverticular problems I was having -- It certainly has changed how and what I eat and was very discouraging at the time!!
I know Candida problems are confusing even experts don't agree on how to treat it. I think it is because we are not all the same and respond differently to various treatments and are at various levels of infection. One thing that Candida overgowth can cause is depression in some people but of course not all -- so be aware.
And, I am certainly no expert on candida treatments that is why you have to be Pro-active find out what works for you??
The Anti--Candida diet works--- but eating bread and sugar you will feed the candida/ yeast and that is what they live & thrive on--- so the diet will not work--- Also, a probiotic supplement that works for many people is Primal Defense and it may be available in Canada.
I wish you well---Harry
This is a good story??
I had chronic diverticuar infections for many years (about 30) then I was put on an anti blood clotting drug so as not to have strokes-- 6 months later I began chronic diverticular bleeding that would not stop-- I lost half my blood and almost died one night-- but ended up having 2 1/2 feet of my colon surgically remove on 3/4/2002 in an emergency type operation-- During the prior 10 years I saw 8 different gasto doctors -- not one ever suggested that I have a colon resection to take care of the diverticular problems I was having -- It certainly has changed how and what I eat and was very discouraging at the time!!
I know Candida problems are confusing even experts don't agree on how to treat it. I think it is because we are not all the same and respond differently to various treatments and are at various levels of infection. One thing that Candida overgowth can cause is depression in some people but of course not all -- so be aware.
And, I am certainly no expert on candida treatments that is why you have to be Pro-active find out what works for you??
The Anti--Candida diet works--- but eating bread and sugar you will feed the candida/ yeast and that is what they live & thrive on--- so the diet will not work--- Also, a probiotic supplement that works for many people is Primal Defense and it may be available in Canada.
I wish you well---Harry
diamond79
09-09-2005, 02:39 PM
mrmusicman79,
Let us know how the Candida cure goes. I am willing to try almost anything right about now--if someone told me to jump off a bridge onto a sharp rock because it would cure nausea I probably would! :eek:
I know that alot of those herbal medicines and probiotics are expensive in Canada. I found a probiotic called Acidophilus Probiotic-4 made by Solaray sold in Canada for only $9.92 Canada.
Hope your feeling better soon and Good Luck!
Donna
Let us know how the Candida cure goes. I am willing to try almost anything right about now--if someone told me to jump off a bridge onto a sharp rock because it would cure nausea I probably would! :eek:
I know that alot of those herbal medicines and probiotics are expensive in Canada. I found a probiotic called Acidophilus Probiotic-4 made by Solaray sold in Canada for only $9.92 Canada.
Hope your feeling better soon and Good Luck!
Donna
WATCHOUT!
09-09-2005, 05:00 PM
Hey Harry...
I read some of your responses about the "candida" and was wondering something...to get rid of it...should I see my Dr...and be tested for it and do I need an oral version of an antifungal to take PLUS the other natural rememedies?
I have been battling with medical problems for a long time...I have no gallbladder..Ibs because of that. had infectious Mononucleiosis that resulted in me developing an overactive thyroid condition. I am often anemic, have allergies since childhood and more recently developed an anal fisssure after a bout of running to the bathroom that went on for months. I had surgery to correct that last October but NOW am plagued with severe burning in my chest and throat area that I THOUGT was linked to acid reflux...since the anal fissure caused me NOT to be able to go to the bathroom very regularly.
But then after reading your opinions on this thread..I started thinking back the last years. My diet hasn't been awful..but I AM a sugar addict..I eat a lot of foods containing yeast AND the most important thing I remembered is that though I have always had medical problems..I seemed to get worse just 4 years ago AFTER moving into a split entry style home that I BUILT! I can't say all the chemical are good for anybody in new construction BUT I have finally gotten the house somewhat aired out. But in the process I took lots and lots and lots of antibiotics for sinus infections because I was sick CONSTANTLY.....I am allegic to so much and have been minorly sick with infections in the past.....but when I moved in here... I as well as the rest of the family had sinus infections monthly that lasted sometimes 2 months. We finally got better the last year after cleaning the house thouroughly and haven't had too many sinus infections since. But like I said...in the last 4 years I took lots of antibiotics...and with my diet..I am convinced this is the problem!
Today I went out and read some of the yeast connection book and will buy it probably tomorrow and it seemed to peg me perfectly...
Sorry this post is long...but I just wanted to know specifically what steps to take to help me....I am on so much protonix for the acid reflux and now am left wondering If I still need this or should see my Dr and go from there...what is your opnion? Thanks for any info....I'd like to feel like a human again!
God bless :angel:
I read some of your responses about the "candida" and was wondering something...to get rid of it...should I see my Dr...and be tested for it and do I need an oral version of an antifungal to take PLUS the other natural rememedies?
I have been battling with medical problems for a long time...I have no gallbladder..Ibs because of that. had infectious Mononucleiosis that resulted in me developing an overactive thyroid condition. I am often anemic, have allergies since childhood and more recently developed an anal fisssure after a bout of running to the bathroom that went on for months. I had surgery to correct that last October but NOW am plagued with severe burning in my chest and throat area that I THOUGT was linked to acid reflux...since the anal fissure caused me NOT to be able to go to the bathroom very regularly.
But then after reading your opinions on this thread..I started thinking back the last years. My diet hasn't been awful..but I AM a sugar addict..I eat a lot of foods containing yeast AND the most important thing I remembered is that though I have always had medical problems..I seemed to get worse just 4 years ago AFTER moving into a split entry style home that I BUILT! I can't say all the chemical are good for anybody in new construction BUT I have finally gotten the house somewhat aired out. But in the process I took lots and lots and lots of antibiotics for sinus infections because I was sick CONSTANTLY.....I am allegic to so much and have been minorly sick with infections in the past.....but when I moved in here... I as well as the rest of the family had sinus infections monthly that lasted sometimes 2 months. We finally got better the last year after cleaning the house thouroughly and haven't had too many sinus infections since. But like I said...in the last 4 years I took lots of antibiotics...and with my diet..I am convinced this is the problem!
Today I went out and read some of the yeast connection book and will buy it probably tomorrow and it seemed to peg me perfectly...
Sorry this post is long...but I just wanted to know specifically what steps to take to help me....I am on so much protonix for the acid reflux and now am left wondering If I still need this or should see my Dr and go from there...what is your opnion? Thanks for any info....I'd like to feel like a human again!
God bless :angel:
Harry
09-10-2005, 02:17 PM
Watchout,
The problem with yeast/candida infection problems is that there is no test for yeast overgrowth in your Gastro tract and most Doctors don't make the connection between really feeling bad with alot of symptoms and taking antibiotics. And if you are a sugar/ carbo eater it just compounds the problem!!
If you have all sorts of problems that you can relate to taking antibiotics -- it is probably a yeast / candida overgrowth problems. Because of its many and varied symptoms it is often mis-diagnosed.
I hope you can find enough symptoms on your own so you can convince your your Doctor to give you an anti-fungal drug like Nystatin, Diflucan or Sporanox and you go on the Anti Yeast /Candida diet and take probiotic supplements --- It will change your life.
A study done at the Mayo Clinic in 1999 over 200 people with chronic sinus infections determined 96% were caused by various fungii -- I think they ID'ed 40 different fungii in their study. This was the landmark study at the time--- I think still is.
I wish you well---Harry
The problem with yeast/candida infection problems is that there is no test for yeast overgrowth in your Gastro tract and most Doctors don't make the connection between really feeling bad with alot of symptoms and taking antibiotics. And if you are a sugar/ carbo eater it just compounds the problem!!
If you have all sorts of problems that you can relate to taking antibiotics -- it is probably a yeast / candida overgrowth problems. Because of its many and varied symptoms it is often mis-diagnosed.
I hope you can find enough symptoms on your own so you can convince your your Doctor to give you an anti-fungal drug like Nystatin, Diflucan or Sporanox and you go on the Anti Yeast /Candida diet and take probiotic supplements --- It will change your life.
A study done at the Mayo Clinic in 1999 over 200 people with chronic sinus infections determined 96% were caused by various fungii -- I think they ID'ed 40 different fungii in their study. This was the landmark study at the time--- I think still is.
I wish you well---Harry
WATCHOUT!
09-10-2005, 03:50 PM
Hey Harry,
I am going to get some probiotics today. I think my Dr might be willing to try me on a yeast medication..I'll have to see though. I will probably do that eventually..but would like to try seeing if I can clear it up on my own first. I don't know if that's possible though? I found a website from the yeast connection book and I found forums that people wrote about what they were going through...symptom wise I could have yeast or even be gluten intolerant..celiac disease possible too...so I am going to assume I have the candida and then go from there. I think I have a moderate Candida problem...if I were to guess..even though I have a LOT of medical problems...because some of the tiredness I experience, etc..is part of my Thyroid disorder as well. But I WON'T rule out candida at this point as being a HUGE culprit..because of my long history of antibiotic use! Years ago I used to eat tons and tons of yogurt even when I was on antibiotics..I didn't eat it for that reason...I just loved the stuff....so that probably kept me from developing problems back then. But since being diagnosed with the Thyroid...I had to limit my dairy/calcium because it would blow my thyroid up..making me feel short of breath...so I can't be sure what kind of damage was done AFTER that time using antibiotics. I am curious though...what should I look for dose wise in the probiotics? The biggest thing that I am trying to deal with is the severe heartburn.....otherwise I don't feel that awful bad...I was wondering is it possible for the yeast to be JUST IN the digestive tract and nowhere else? I read somewhere that the yeast can be in the blood or just in a cetralized area...and I was wondering if that is true or once a person gets yeast its pretty much everywhere? I am new to this subject though I have been reading alot these last couple days....so any info is GREATLY appreciated. THANKS!!!!!! :angel:
I am going to get some probiotics today. I think my Dr might be willing to try me on a yeast medication..I'll have to see though. I will probably do that eventually..but would like to try seeing if I can clear it up on my own first. I don't know if that's possible though? I found a website from the yeast connection book and I found forums that people wrote about what they were going through...symptom wise I could have yeast or even be gluten intolerant..celiac disease possible too...so I am going to assume I have the candida and then go from there. I think I have a moderate Candida problem...if I were to guess..even though I have a LOT of medical problems...because some of the tiredness I experience, etc..is part of my Thyroid disorder as well. But I WON'T rule out candida at this point as being a HUGE culprit..because of my long history of antibiotic use! Years ago I used to eat tons and tons of yogurt even when I was on antibiotics..I didn't eat it for that reason...I just loved the stuff....so that probably kept me from developing problems back then. But since being diagnosed with the Thyroid...I had to limit my dairy/calcium because it would blow my thyroid up..making me feel short of breath...so I can't be sure what kind of damage was done AFTER that time using antibiotics. I am curious though...what should I look for dose wise in the probiotics? The biggest thing that I am trying to deal with is the severe heartburn.....otherwise I don't feel that awful bad...I was wondering is it possible for the yeast to be JUST IN the digestive tract and nowhere else? I read somewhere that the yeast can be in the blood or just in a cetralized area...and I was wondering if that is true or once a person gets yeast its pretty much everywhere? I am new to this subject though I have been reading alot these last couple days....so any info is GREATLY appreciated. THANKS!!!!!! :angel:
WATCHOUT!
09-10-2005, 03:59 PM
PS...as far as the sinus infections being linked to fungi...I would agree...I built this house I am living in right now...and I think because it was built during the winter..ice was on the floors for months and then in the spring..it started to melt..the buiding company took a ridiculous 10 months to finish our place and it is a small split-entry type. I always wondered ALL those months how healthy it would be to move into a house that was exposed to the elements that long..I can't even imagine what kind of things were growing in here BEFORE we moved in...YIKES! So fungi and sinus infections ....yup they go hand in hand! Always wondered WHY I felt so bad.... :wave:
diamond79
09-10-2005, 09:11 PM
Harry,
Would just one round of antibiotics cause Candida? I had to take amoxicillan for a week while I was pregnant for a bladder infection and then again when I was in labour(through an IV) because I tested positive for Strep B. I also have MAJOR problems with my sinuses after a really bad sinus infection a couple years ago. I am also prone to ear infections as well. What kind of test would they do for Candida? And would that cause alot of stomach problems like gastritis that lingers and nausea?
Thanks in advance!
Would just one round of antibiotics cause Candida? I had to take amoxicillan for a week while I was pregnant for a bladder infection and then again when I was in labour(through an IV) because I tested positive for Strep B. I also have MAJOR problems with my sinuses after a really bad sinus infection a couple years ago. I am also prone to ear infections as well. What kind of test would they do for Candida? And would that cause alot of stomach problems like gastritis that lingers and nausea?
Thanks in advance!
Harry
09-11-2005, 01:52 AM
Hi--
I thought ya'll may be interested in the article about sinus and fungus-- here it:
http://www.mayo.edu/comm/mcr/news_773.html
Probiotic are not as well defined and explained as I would like in the literature --- this is what I think and it has worked most of the time for me.
There are over 400 different strains of bacteria in your GI tract and there are so many that there are more bacteria there than cells in your body--- there is about 3 to 4 pounds of bacteria that reside.
What happens is that they can get out of balance for many reasons --- like antiobiotics, too much salt or sugar, spicy foods and some medications. But since your constitution & immune system are very (DNA, environment- air, contact with various chemical, pesticides, herbicides, etc) different--- then you and I may react differently.
I know for me just 1 round -(7 days) of a broad spectrum antibiotics like amoxicillin will give me a yeast infection and cause digestive problems but I don't get heartburn and rearly nausea because of my diet but frequent hearturn and nausea are very common with people having yeast infections. Also some gastritis for some-- I have found Mastica(Mastic Gum) the best cure for my gastritis--it takes about 2 weeks to cure.
I don't think a yeast infection causes inflammation of the stomach (gastritis) but antibiotics do and it can linger even while taking a PPI but not everybody but it does me.
When you get a yeast infection(GI tract), then it affects the bacteria in that area from the mouth, esophagus, stomach, duodenum, small intestines and large intestines, rectum and anus!! I think various but different probiotic stains/cultures inhabit each part of your gastrointestinal tract-- in the mouth certain ones live, in the small intestines certain ones live and in the colon certain ones live.
So, all yogurt contains only 2 bacteria to make it and some makers add Lactobacillus acidopdilus and a Bifodobacterium strain. Some makers add 4 or even 8 additional cultures. Only 1 maker adds L. reuteri (Stonyfield Farm) that is very good but only in the States not in Canada. None add L. GG sold as Culturelle a very good stain that re-colonizes your small intestines but I don't think it does much for your colon. It is not easy to determine what probiotic you need or is good when you buy it.
I have over the years used many different brands and at first they are effective but later they don't seem to work. I think this is because the bacteria that is causing you problems --- mutates and it takes another culture to re-balance your system during the course of treating it???
If you read much about yeast infections -- you will find many have differing opinions but the thing that most people agree about is the anti yeast/ candida diet works but not everyone agrees on the same diet--- yeast do thrive on sugary foods and carbs but we seem to feel OK.
I hope this make some sense ---Harry
I thought ya'll may be interested in the article about sinus and fungus-- here it:
http://www.mayo.edu/comm/mcr/news_773.html
Probiotic are not as well defined and explained as I would like in the literature --- this is what I think and it has worked most of the time for me.
There are over 400 different strains of bacteria in your GI tract and there are so many that there are more bacteria there than cells in your body--- there is about 3 to 4 pounds of bacteria that reside.
What happens is that they can get out of balance for many reasons --- like antiobiotics, too much salt or sugar, spicy foods and some medications. But since your constitution & immune system are very (DNA, environment- air, contact with various chemical, pesticides, herbicides, etc) different--- then you and I may react differently.
I know for me just 1 round -(7 days) of a broad spectrum antibiotics like amoxicillin will give me a yeast infection and cause digestive problems but I don't get heartburn and rearly nausea because of my diet but frequent hearturn and nausea are very common with people having yeast infections. Also some gastritis for some-- I have found Mastica(Mastic Gum) the best cure for my gastritis--it takes about 2 weeks to cure.
I don't think a yeast infection causes inflammation of the stomach (gastritis) but antibiotics do and it can linger even while taking a PPI but not everybody but it does me.
When you get a yeast infection(GI tract), then it affects the bacteria in that area from the mouth, esophagus, stomach, duodenum, small intestines and large intestines, rectum and anus!! I think various but different probiotic stains/cultures inhabit each part of your gastrointestinal tract-- in the mouth certain ones live, in the small intestines certain ones live and in the colon certain ones live.
So, all yogurt contains only 2 bacteria to make it and some makers add Lactobacillus acidopdilus and a Bifodobacterium strain. Some makers add 4 or even 8 additional cultures. Only 1 maker adds L. reuteri (Stonyfield Farm) that is very good but only in the States not in Canada. None add L. GG sold as Culturelle a very good stain that re-colonizes your small intestines but I don't think it does much for your colon. It is not easy to determine what probiotic you need or is good when you buy it.
I have over the years used many different brands and at first they are effective but later they don't seem to work. I think this is because the bacteria that is causing you problems --- mutates and it takes another culture to re-balance your system during the course of treating it???
If you read much about yeast infections -- you will find many have differing opinions but the thing that most people agree about is the anti yeast/ candida diet works but not everyone agrees on the same diet--- yeast do thrive on sugary foods and carbs but we seem to feel OK.
I hope this make some sense ---Harry