veree
12-03-2002, 01:31 PM
Curious as to how many carbs are allowed on a low carb diet
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auntjudyg
12-03-2002, 03:45 PM
There are different low carb plans that allow differing amounts, ranging from 20 grams per day on the Induction Phase of the Atkins diet up to about 100 grams, and I have seen even up to 150 grams called low carb.
Chum
12-04-2002, 07:00 PM
I think atkins is too restrictive. I eat 60-100 grams of carbs daily. If I followed the food pyramid I would be eating 300 grams daily! No wonder diabetes is out of control.
rhody
12-05-2002, 09:33 PM
Whole grain carbohydrates are much different than refined carbohydrates. From what I've read, whole grains are good for some people with diabetes. Far too many people don't realize that.
Check the internet and see....
Check the internet and see....
Chum
12-06-2002, 12:27 PM
That is one reason I detest atkins. All the "low-carb" doctors try to compare raw sugar to fruits and grains. Anyone who read the Bible knows grains are mentioned many times. The items that are making Americans fat is refined sugars and processed foods. Pies, cakes, sodas, chips, pretzels, ice cream, and on and on.
auntjudyg
12-06-2002, 01:30 PM
Putting the low-high carb thing aside for a minute, though, grains (particularly wheat) in any form seem to cause some people problems when they are losing weight. I know a number of people who have broken through stalls or accelerated weight lose by eliminating most grains from their diet.
rhody
12-06-2002, 04:30 PM
Auntjudyg,
Eliminating whole grains or refined grains? There's a big difference between the two. Most people apparently don't have a clue what whole grains are, because it hasn't been part of their diet. They just don't know. Check it out and see....
Chum,
You understand it very well. Processed junk foods are the problem, not healthy natural wholesome foods.
Eliminating whole grains or refined grains? There's a big difference between the two. Most people apparently don't have a clue what whole grains are, because it hasn't been part of their diet. They just don't know. Check it out and see....
Chum,
You understand it very well. Processed junk foods are the problem, not healthy natural wholesome foods.
rhody
12-06-2002, 04:39 PM
Auntjudyg,
With wheat that you mention (in any form), how many people grind up their own wheat berries, particularly in the developed nations? Very very few people. Natural whole wheat is much different than processed varieties.
I'm one of the few that do grind up my own wheat seeds (berries). It's very nutritious.
With wheat that you mention (in any form), how many people grind up their own wheat berries, particularly in the developed nations? Very very few people. Natural whole wheat is much different than processed varieties.
I'm one of the few that do grind up my own wheat seeds (berries). It's very nutritious.
Chum
12-07-2002, 02:08 PM
For any plan to be successful the first big step is eliminating "white" foods from the diet. This includes white breads, pastas, potatoes, sugars, flours, rice, etc. Also the processed food must go as well. What your left with are lean meats, grains, beans, fruits, and vegetables.
On a side note about low carb diets I hear so many people who fail atkins say well at least I quit drinking soda and eating junk food. I ask them why they could not stop without doing atkins? ;)
On a side note about low carb diets I hear so many people who fail atkins say well at least I quit drinking soda and eating junk food. I ask them why they could not stop without doing atkins? ;)
auntjudyg
12-10-2002, 11:05 AM
Originally posted by rhody:
[B]Auntjudyg,
Eliminating whole grains or refined grains? There's a big difference between the two. Most people apparently don't have a clue what whole grains are, because it hasn't been part of their diet. They just don't know. Check it out and see....
B]
I meant exactly eliminating grains . . . whole or refined; freshly ground or not.
[B]Auntjudyg,
Eliminating whole grains or refined grains? There's a big difference between the two. Most people apparently don't have a clue what whole grains are, because it hasn't been part of their diet. They just don't know. Check it out and see....
B]
I meant exactly eliminating grains . . . whole or refined; freshly ground or not.
Epiphany3
12-18-2002, 04:22 AM
People need to stop getting fruits and vegetables confused with chocolate, chips and all the rest.
Vegetables don't make you fat. It's about moderation in the long term, and our health shouldn't be comprimised for yet another fad diet.
Vegetables don't make you fat. It's about moderation in the long term, and our health shouldn't be comprimised for yet another fad diet.
scooter9999
12-27-2002, 06:10 PM
Exactly.
And the other thing about chocolate and chips is that they usually get eaten in addition to an individuals normal.
Pizza rates as a food that is hard for many of us to resist. But we also have to face the hard reality that many people consume the equivalent of several cheese burgers whenever they get there pizza fix. Now a days, sending pizza to our door isn't enough. First there was crazy bread, twisty bread, etc.. now they're adding in chocolate chip cookies or chocolate cake. And because flour in these products is highly-processed, we can consume an large quanitity before we really feel satisfied.
And eating such a meal isn't going to make you fat overnight, but a consistent daily/weekly feed of such meals and a lack of exercise will guarantee extra fat for the average person.
Look back in history and see that average humans did not have a multitude of snacks available to them whenever they wanted food. Whether meals were large or small, meal time represented the time when you consumed all of your daily calories. If we insist on denial and insist on not accounting for the extra calories that we eat on a daily basis, then we insist on being fat. Sure it's not easy, and you'll probably be on your own in the quest for a healthier lifestyle, but the near elimination of carbs is not something that the average can ever hope to maintain.
And the other thing about chocolate and chips is that they usually get eaten in addition to an individuals normal.
Pizza rates as a food that is hard for many of us to resist. But we also have to face the hard reality that many people consume the equivalent of several cheese burgers whenever they get there pizza fix. Now a days, sending pizza to our door isn't enough. First there was crazy bread, twisty bread, etc.. now they're adding in chocolate chip cookies or chocolate cake. And because flour in these products is highly-processed, we can consume an large quanitity before we really feel satisfied.
And eating such a meal isn't going to make you fat overnight, but a consistent daily/weekly feed of such meals and a lack of exercise will guarantee extra fat for the average person.
Look back in history and see that average humans did not have a multitude of snacks available to them whenever they wanted food. Whether meals were large or small, meal time represented the time when you consumed all of your daily calories. If we insist on denial and insist on not accounting for the extra calories that we eat on a daily basis, then we insist on being fat. Sure it's not easy, and you'll probably be on your own in the quest for a healthier lifestyle, but the near elimination of carbs is not something that the average can ever hope to maintain.