Lector
01-04-2003, 05:23 PM
How many Carbohydrates is recomended for a days worth? And what is this atkins thing.... and does it work? Also what foods have alot of carbs? Which ones to avoid like the plague... and whats good for me?
Stats
Male 21
6'4
230lbs
Have aprox 30 more pounds to lose before the end of summer
Stats
Male 21
6'4
230lbs
Have aprox 30 more pounds to lose before the end of summer
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Chum
01-04-2003, 07:30 PM
"How many Carbohydrates is recomended for a days worth?"
20 grams for the first 14 days on atkins. After that around 40
"And what is this atkins thing.... and does it work?"
Atkins is a dangerous low carb diet. It works short term, but once you cheat its over and everyone does from the plan being so restrictive. Meat and cheese every meal stinks.
"Also what foods have alot of carbs?"
Anything but meats, cheese, butter and eggs. One slice of bread has 20 carbs alone. A glass of milk has 12 grams. Atkins only allows 20 grams the first 2 weeks.
"Which ones to avoid like the plague... and whats good for me?"
I cant answer that because I dont believe carbs are to be avoided. Best thing is to buy the book.
20 grams for the first 14 days on atkins. After that around 40
"And what is this atkins thing.... and does it work?"
Atkins is a dangerous low carb diet. It works short term, but once you cheat its over and everyone does from the plan being so restrictive. Meat and cheese every meal stinks.
"Also what foods have alot of carbs?"
Anything but meats, cheese, butter and eggs. One slice of bread has 20 carbs alone. A glass of milk has 12 grams. Atkins only allows 20 grams the first 2 weeks.
"Which ones to avoid like the plague... and whats good for me?"
I cant answer that because I dont believe carbs are to be avoided. Best thing is to buy the book.
Sinnrah
01-05-2003, 12:51 AM
HI,
I am on my own kind of low carb type of diet. I cheat all the time....and I have not gained any of the weight back I lost.
I think it varies from person to person. But that is only my story. Some others may have had different experiences on the low carb diet. I do agree that Atkins is rather low in carb intake. I allow myself anywhere from 35-100 grams a day. Depending on how I feel. LOL
Take CAre
sinnrah
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This is only my Opinion
I am on my own kind of low carb type of diet. I cheat all the time....and I have not gained any of the weight back I lost.
I think it varies from person to person. But that is only my story. Some others may have had different experiences on the low carb diet. I do agree that Atkins is rather low in carb intake. I allow myself anywhere from 35-100 grams a day. Depending on how I feel. LOL
Take CAre
sinnrah
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This is only my Opinion
arkie6
01-05-2003, 02:36 AM
Originally posted by Lector:
How many Carbohydrates is recomended for a days worth?
Depends on what you are trying to do. If you are wanting to try a low carbohydrate diet, first thing is to get the book and read it so that you have a basic understanding of how and why it works. A couple of recommended books are Dr. Atkins New Diet Revolution and Protein Power by Dr. Michael Eades. Each book in paperback is only $6-$8 at just about any bookstore. You can usually pick them up for less than a buck or two at used bookstores.
During the induction phase of Dr. Atkins diet, he recommends less than 20 grams of carbohydrates per day. After induction, which typically lasts for at least 2 weeks (many people stay in the induction phase much longer because they like the diet and the results it gives), you can gradually increase your carbohydrate intake by about 5 grams per day as long as the weight loss continues. Many people continue to lose pretty well in the 30-50 gram per day range. Most people can maintain their weight loss in the 50-100 gram per day range if the bulk of the carbs are whole unprocessed foods rather than refined carbohydrates. The Eades in Protein Power recommend that you start out at 30 grams per day of carbohydrate and then gradually adjust this up as you enter the on going weight loss phase and then up a little more in the maintenance phase. The Eades stress getting adequate protein in your diet and eating whole unprocessed foods whenever possible. Resistance exercises (weight lifting, etc.) is also highly encouraged to build lean body mass.
And what is this atkins thing.... and does it work?
Dr. Atkins diet is a low carbohydrate diet. Yes, it works very well for many people, myself included. I've been following a modified low carbohydrate diet for over 4 years now and have no intentions of changing my diet. My last physical and bloodwork indicates this is a very healthy way for me to eat (low bloodpressure, normal bloodsugar, normal blood lipids, normal liver and kidney function, etc). I like being able to eat enough to not be hungry, which this diet allows, especially if you enjoy meat, eggs, cheese, and green vegetables. The diet works by lowering your intake of carbohydrates which lowers your bloodsugar and insulin levels. Carbohydrate intake more than anything stimulates the release of insulin. Insulin is the "fat storing" hormone and when levels are high it not only encourages the storing of fat (this includes fats made from excess carbohydrates) but also inhibits the burning of the fat that you already have stored.
Also what foods have alot of carbs?
The obvious ones are sweets, candy, cakes, cookies, pastries, and regular soft drinks. The less obvious ones are breads, pasta, potatoes, rice, corn, most fruit and fruit juices, chips, regular beer, etc. Regarding beer, the lower carb varities are Miller Lite (about 3 grams per beer) and the new Michelob Ultra at 2.6 grams of carbohydrate per 12 oz.
Which ones to avoid like the plague...
Sugar in all of its many forms, potatoes, and just about anything made from grains like wheat, rice, and corn. It is also a good idea to avoid partially hydrogenated vegetable oils and the foods made with them due to their high trans fatty acid content.
and whats good for me?
Meat of all types (beef, pork, lamb, chicken, turkey, fish, seafood, etc), the less processed the better. A steak is better than salami. A pork chop is better than bacon, and so on. This doesn't mean that you can't eat any processed meats, just don't make them the foundation of your diet. Other good healthy choices are eggs and some dairy products (cheeses, cottage cheese, cream, sour cream, unsweetened yogurt, etc.). Milk is a bit high in carbs, whereas cheese is low carb. Good fats to choose are butter, olive oil, coconut oil, lard - anything whole, natural, and unprocessed or minimally processed (i.e. extra virgin olive oil is a good choice).
Stats
Male 21
6'4
230lbs
Have aprox 30 more pounds to lose before the end of summer
That is doable. I'm a 6'0" tall guy and I was 32 and about 220# when I started this way of eating. I dropped 40 pounds in about 8 months and have been maintaining a 30-35 pound weight loss ever since and am currently 188# with a 34" waist. I also started working out with weights after I lost the initial weight.
Alan
How many Carbohydrates is recomended for a days worth?
Depends on what you are trying to do. If you are wanting to try a low carbohydrate diet, first thing is to get the book and read it so that you have a basic understanding of how and why it works. A couple of recommended books are Dr. Atkins New Diet Revolution and Protein Power by Dr. Michael Eades. Each book in paperback is only $6-$8 at just about any bookstore. You can usually pick them up for less than a buck or two at used bookstores.
During the induction phase of Dr. Atkins diet, he recommends less than 20 grams of carbohydrates per day. After induction, which typically lasts for at least 2 weeks (many people stay in the induction phase much longer because they like the diet and the results it gives), you can gradually increase your carbohydrate intake by about 5 grams per day as long as the weight loss continues. Many people continue to lose pretty well in the 30-50 gram per day range. Most people can maintain their weight loss in the 50-100 gram per day range if the bulk of the carbs are whole unprocessed foods rather than refined carbohydrates. The Eades in Protein Power recommend that you start out at 30 grams per day of carbohydrate and then gradually adjust this up as you enter the on going weight loss phase and then up a little more in the maintenance phase. The Eades stress getting adequate protein in your diet and eating whole unprocessed foods whenever possible. Resistance exercises (weight lifting, etc.) is also highly encouraged to build lean body mass.
And what is this atkins thing.... and does it work?
Dr. Atkins diet is a low carbohydrate diet. Yes, it works very well for many people, myself included. I've been following a modified low carbohydrate diet for over 4 years now and have no intentions of changing my diet. My last physical and bloodwork indicates this is a very healthy way for me to eat (low bloodpressure, normal bloodsugar, normal blood lipids, normal liver and kidney function, etc). I like being able to eat enough to not be hungry, which this diet allows, especially if you enjoy meat, eggs, cheese, and green vegetables. The diet works by lowering your intake of carbohydrates which lowers your bloodsugar and insulin levels. Carbohydrate intake more than anything stimulates the release of insulin. Insulin is the "fat storing" hormone and when levels are high it not only encourages the storing of fat (this includes fats made from excess carbohydrates) but also inhibits the burning of the fat that you already have stored.
Also what foods have alot of carbs?
The obvious ones are sweets, candy, cakes, cookies, pastries, and regular soft drinks. The less obvious ones are breads, pasta, potatoes, rice, corn, most fruit and fruit juices, chips, regular beer, etc. Regarding beer, the lower carb varities are Miller Lite (about 3 grams per beer) and the new Michelob Ultra at 2.6 grams of carbohydrate per 12 oz.
Which ones to avoid like the plague...
Sugar in all of its many forms, potatoes, and just about anything made from grains like wheat, rice, and corn. It is also a good idea to avoid partially hydrogenated vegetable oils and the foods made with them due to their high trans fatty acid content.
and whats good for me?
Meat of all types (beef, pork, lamb, chicken, turkey, fish, seafood, etc), the less processed the better. A steak is better than salami. A pork chop is better than bacon, and so on. This doesn't mean that you can't eat any processed meats, just don't make them the foundation of your diet. Other good healthy choices are eggs and some dairy products (cheeses, cottage cheese, cream, sour cream, unsweetened yogurt, etc.). Milk is a bit high in carbs, whereas cheese is low carb. Good fats to choose are butter, olive oil, coconut oil, lard - anything whole, natural, and unprocessed or minimally processed (i.e. extra virgin olive oil is a good choice).
Stats
Male 21
6'4
230lbs
Have aprox 30 more pounds to lose before the end of summer
That is doable. I'm a 6'0" tall guy and I was 32 and about 220# when I started this way of eating. I dropped 40 pounds in about 8 months and have been maintaining a 30-35 pound weight loss ever since and am currently 188# with a 34" waist. I also started working out with weights after I lost the initial weight.
Alan
Lector
01-05-2003, 02:15 PM
well i may pick up the book from walmart next week... what i want to get done with this diet is to lose my extra 30 pounds so i can be 200 lbs... i have the extra fat around my thighs, butt, tummy and my chest (man boobs) :) that i hope to lose with 3 days a week at the gym, 30 mins cardio (treadmill) with the help of this diet
i really want rid of the chest wieght... i just have to be determined and set my goals for about 5-8 pounds a month
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i really want rid of the chest wieght... i just have to be determined and set my goals for about 5-8 pounds a month
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Chelle1977
01-06-2003, 09:32 AM
Lector
I would recommend reading more than just Dr. Atkins book. There are other options that can work for you. Don't think that Atkins is the only option and then feel like there is no hope if its just not for you.
To lose fat, you simply need to eat less and exercise more. By removing the candy and cookies and regular soda from your diet, its easy to remove calories and lose weight. If you removed just one soda (~150 calories) and one candy bar (~300) a day, you could lose almost a lb. a week.
Any changes that you make in your diet to lose weight (whether you choose to follow Atkins, or some other plan), have to be PERMANENT changes. You can't stop drinking regular beer and switch to Miller Light to lose weight and then switch back when you've reached your goal.
I would recommend reading more than just Dr. Atkins book. There are other options that can work for you. Don't think that Atkins is the only option and then feel like there is no hope if its just not for you.
To lose fat, you simply need to eat less and exercise more. By removing the candy and cookies and regular soda from your diet, its easy to remove calories and lose weight. If you removed just one soda (~150 calories) and one candy bar (~300) a day, you could lose almost a lb. a week.
Any changes that you make in your diet to lose weight (whether you choose to follow Atkins, or some other plan), have to be PERMANENT changes. You can't stop drinking regular beer and switch to Miller Light to lose weight and then switch back when you've reached your goal.
scooter9999
01-07-2003, 10:43 AM
It's amazing how everyone chooses one extreme or another. Eat way too much, then choose the Atkins diet. Live a sedentary lifestyle, then choose a Marathon as their short-term goal.
You can choose a moderate diet that includes a reasonable amount of all types of food or you can choose to deprive yourself and announce to yourself that you're going to eat a diet of very few carbs.
You can choose a moderate diet that includes a reasonable amount of all types of food or you can choose to deprive yourself and announce to yourself that you're going to eat a diet of very few carbs.