Chelle1977
01-09-2003, 10:48 AM
Yesterday was a bit high in sugar and probably calories as well. I need to try a little harder today.
(calories, fat, protein)
B: 1 egg, 2 slices bacon, 2 slice ww toast, 1 tbsp. B&B, 6oz OJ (433, 17.5g, 12g)
S: glazed doughnut (220, 12g, 2g)
S: banana, yogurt (180, 1g, 6g)
L: pork chop in mushroom sauce, peas, smashed potato, diet Dr. Pepper (?)
S: popcorn (240 if I eat the whole bag, ?, ?)
D: 1c. chili, 1 slice RF American, 5 Ritz, 8oz milk (495, ?, ?)
Calories are probably pretty close to 2,000 today which is higher than I'd like, but I think lower than they have been during my gain so thats ok. Brought doughnuts for the office b/c I had a buy 1 dozen, get 1 free and figured I'd have one ;-D
(calories, fat, protein)
B: 1 egg, 2 slices bacon, 2 slice ww toast, 1 tbsp. B&B, 6oz OJ (433, 17.5g, 12g)
S: glazed doughnut (220, 12g, 2g)
S: banana, yogurt (180, 1g, 6g)
L: pork chop in mushroom sauce, peas, smashed potato, diet Dr. Pepper (?)
S: popcorn (240 if I eat the whole bag, ?, ?)
D: 1c. chili, 1 slice RF American, 5 Ritz, 8oz milk (495, ?, ?)
Calories are probably pretty close to 2,000 today which is higher than I'd like, but I think lower than they have been during my gain so thats ok. Brought doughnuts for the office b/c I had a buy 1 dozen, get 1 free and figured I'd have one ;-D
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Magpiezoe
01-09-2003, 02:24 PM
Hello, I'm still rooting for you. You did good. You can exercise the doughnut off. It was just one day. I eat 94% fat free micro popcorn and the calories are a lot lower, just make sure you get the butter flavor or...air popped popcorn with garlic powder and parmesan cheese is really good too. Keep up the good work. Hey, I just read last night that corn has some sort of chemical in it to help prevent colon cancer. I guess all starches aren't created equal.
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Chelle1977
01-09-2003, 02:32 PM
No, all starches are definitely NOT created equal. You need some whole, unrefined, grains and legumes in your diet. They provide important vitamins and minerals. Sure, you don't need cupcakes and soda and all those other sweets, but you do need potatoes and brown rice and oats and barley and all that other gunk. =)
I'm not real worried about the doughnut. I skipped my banana (just wasn't real hungry after the doughnut). And I probably won't eat the whole bag of popcorn, I'll get tired of it before that. *lol*
I'm not real worried about the doughnut. I skipped my banana (just wasn't real hungry after the doughnut). And I probably won't eat the whole bag of popcorn, I'll get tired of it before that. *lol*
cross
01-09-2003, 07:25 PM
Hmmm. I've got a question, maybe two.
Today I ate three strawberries, a nectarine, a glass of milk, 100 calories of artichoke hearts, half a cucumber, two roma tomatoes (plumb tomatoes) and about 200 calories of dressing.
That adds up to about 600 calories. Not nearly enough I understand, but I'm full! That's a lot more fruits and vegetables than I usually eat.
So here are my questions: First, is there really anything wrong with eating less than 1000 calories periodically? Second, how do vegans eat enough food to maintain the caloric needs? I just can't imagine eating 2-3 times what I ate today! (I'm not really much of a starch eater, with the exception of corn, I don't really like grains or roots)
Thoughts?
[This message has been edited by cross (edited 01-09-2003).]
Today I ate three strawberries, a nectarine, a glass of milk, 100 calories of artichoke hearts, half a cucumber, two roma tomatoes (plumb tomatoes) and about 200 calories of dressing.
That adds up to about 600 calories. Not nearly enough I understand, but I'm full! That's a lot more fruits and vegetables than I usually eat.
So here are my questions: First, is there really anything wrong with eating less than 1000 calories periodically? Second, how do vegans eat enough food to maintain the caloric needs? I just can't imagine eating 2-3 times what I ate today! (I'm not really much of a starch eater, with the exception of corn, I don't really like grains or roots)
Thoughts?
[This message has been edited by cross (edited 01-09-2003).]
Lindarella
01-10-2003, 12:22 AM
cross, I know you didn't ask me but I'll answer for me. :) I lost 30 lbs with strict calorie counting and control. I've hit my goal and am now maintaining. I lost the weight by eating 1200 calories a day, every single day for about 3 months. I used www.fitday.com (http://www.fitday.com) to keep track of all the calories.
During that time, I got to see the reports that fitday generates. It breaks your progress down for you into cool charts and graphs. For those 3 months, although I never once went over 1200 a day, many times I was under 1200. It was anywhere from 900-1200. I'd say I ate less than 1000 at least 1-2 days a week average.
Now that I'm in a maintainance phase, I control calories different. I still use fitday everyday. But now I pay more attention to a couple day span. I stay at 1400 calories a day BUT if I go over one day to 1600 (sometimes I eat out or pig out :D ), then the next day I only eat 1200 to make up for that 200 extra the day before. Also, once I gain 2 lbs (which happened in December) I immediately go back to 1200 until it's gone.
I'm still working out the bugs but so far, so good.
Chelle, sounds good to me. Good luck.
During that time, I got to see the reports that fitday generates. It breaks your progress down for you into cool charts and graphs. For those 3 months, although I never once went over 1200 a day, many times I was under 1200. It was anywhere from 900-1200. I'd say I ate less than 1000 at least 1-2 days a week average.
Now that I'm in a maintainance phase, I control calories different. I still use fitday everyday. But now I pay more attention to a couple day span. I stay at 1400 calories a day BUT if I go over one day to 1600 (sometimes I eat out or pig out :D ), then the next day I only eat 1200 to make up for that 200 extra the day before. Also, once I gain 2 lbs (which happened in December) I immediately go back to 1200 until it's gone.
I'm still working out the bugs but so far, so good.
Chelle, sounds good to me. Good luck.
cross
01-10-2003, 06:05 AM
Lindarella: Thanks for the info and the link!
cross
01-10-2003, 06:16 AM
Lindarella: Just spent some time on FitDay. That is an AMAZING site! Thanks again!
Chelle1977
01-10-2003, 11:02 AM
Yes, there are real health problems associated with chronic undereating. If you do not feed your body, it will begin to shut down less important functions in order to conserve energy for more important things like keeping your heart beating. Your body will begin to cannbialize itself, first muscle then bone. Your period (if you're a woman?) will stop. You'll start losing hair. You'll start growing a downy hair over your entire body. Eventually, you could die. Do a search on the effects of anorexia on your body. Because undereating like you are is anorexia.
I disagree with the idea of only eating 1200 calories a day if you're a grown woman and are at all active. Most women need more than that. But part of that disagreement is that I don't intend to live my life as strictly as Lindarella has indicated she is living hers. Thats a personal decision that you have to make on your own.
Whole grains and legumes have needed vitamins and minerals. You should aim to get at least six servings a day for your health. Also, you do not mention nearly enough calcium or protein in your diet. I realize you want to be vegan, but you have to take some protein in somewhere. As a non-meat eater you can get your protein from beans and whole grains and from "Fake" meats. Vegans do not drink milk. You'll need to get calcium from things like broccoli and spinach and fortified foods like cereals and OJ.
I disagree with the idea of only eating 1200 calories a day if you're a grown woman and are at all active. Most women need more than that. But part of that disagreement is that I don't intend to live my life as strictly as Lindarella has indicated she is living hers. Thats a personal decision that you have to make on your own.
Whole grains and legumes have needed vitamins and minerals. You should aim to get at least six servings a day for your health. Also, you do not mention nearly enough calcium or protein in your diet. I realize you want to be vegan, but you have to take some protein in somewhere. As a non-meat eater you can get your protein from beans and whole grains and from "Fake" meats. Vegans do not drink milk. You'll need to get calcium from things like broccoli and spinach and fortified foods like cereals and OJ.
cross
01-10-2003, 05:51 PM
Chelle, thanks for the input.
I've only been 'undereating' for four days. With the weekend here, that won't last. I do have four servings of calcium (milk/yogurt/tums) a day (I usually blend the milk and strawberries into a smoothie) I have a serving of meat about every other day. I'm not trying to be a vegan, just curious about how the can consume the volume of food it must take to reach their caloric needs.
My concern is that I just don't like good food enough to eat much of it. Once I cut out the junk -- burgers, fried, soda, chips, cookies, whatever, my appetite drops considerably. Which is good, except for the issue of not eating enough.
I'll probably reach a balance soon enough.
Thanks again.
I've only been 'undereating' for four days. With the weekend here, that won't last. I do have four servings of calcium (milk/yogurt/tums) a day (I usually blend the milk and strawberries into a smoothie) I have a serving of meat about every other day. I'm not trying to be a vegan, just curious about how the can consume the volume of food it must take to reach their caloric needs.
My concern is that I just don't like good food enough to eat much of it. Once I cut out the junk -- burgers, fried, soda, chips, cookies, whatever, my appetite drops considerably. Which is good, except for the issue of not eating enough.
I'll probably reach a balance soon enough.
Thanks again.