ok i got a couple of questions and comments:
is diabitis curable in a natural way?
is the gov doing enough for the millions of us with diabites?



i was reading an article of doctor james chapell and he said that people in the other side of the world haved been getting cured from diabites for thousands of years with natural plants that somehow reverse the desease and suplement the pancreas

he also said that the gov keeps this kinds of researches from us because as we all know they really profit from us the diabetics millions and millions a year



now my other question is what is the U.S doing to cure this desease and why dont they research on how natural things, proven in other countrys, brings sugar levels and reverses diabites completely

thnks

Is diabetes curable the natural way....No, I don't think it is. I think certain herbs and minerals can help with treatment but not cure it completely. You will always hear about people who's diabetes was cured. They might have lost weight, started exercising, or changed their diet. Whatever they did caused and overworked pancreas to start working to it's potential again.

Personal opinion, conspiracy theories are a great way to sell books. Insulin was only discovered 80 something years ago. Then they found that people would be allergic to pork and beef insulin so they spent years developing synthetic insulin. Now they have found that the beta cells of the pancreas are the problem and that they can be transplanted. Strides are made all of the time.

I wish there was an easy fix. Since herbs are not regulated, it can be dangerous to use them to treat disease. Sticking with insulin seems to be the only proven way to control diabetes for now

There is no cure for heart problems either from the natural herbal remedies. Best thing to do is do what you feel is good for you. With diabetes or heart disease, an organ affected and sometimes leads to transplant to help. That is my own opinion. I have a freind that always sent me stuff on herbal remedies for heart disease. I was born with heart murmur. So, there are people out the with the so called instant cure. Be warry of the nawsayers of so called instant cure. Take care.

trekgirl :)

In many parts of the world type 2 diabetes is not very prevalent. On the other hand, those parts of the world don't have any of the western worlds dietary abundance. And besides, those parts of the world have people dying at a very early age due to such things as famine and disease. In the parts of the world you are probably discussing, type 1 diabetics die because they have no access to insulin.

Give me synthetic meds any day over poor nutrition and early death.

Cora

Yes, diabetes is curable and preventable. Certain herbs have been shown to reverse the damage done to the pancreas and restore normal blood levels. Though the FDA continues to censor more and more of these studies, you can still come across some on google. Yu Xiao San is a popular product in China. The idea myth herbs and dangerous and ineffective is almost as absurd as the myth that drugs are safe and produce real results. The best way to manage diabetes is to eat a low carb/low sugar diet, excercise ona daily basis, and supplement.

This seems to have been mainly type 2, so I wanted to mention to you gugu77 that Type 1 diabetes is an auto-immune response which desctructs the cells in the pancreas, quite different from Type 2. Type 1 cannot be controlled with things like diet etc, and people with T1 need to have daily insulin injections (or an insulin pump) to live - as of yet it is in no way curable.

Just wanted to add the differences between the two types and the different treatments.

I guess this would boil down to personal experience. Being a Type 1, as Dan mentioned, I come from this at a different angle. I think it is absurd to go into any situation whether you are talking herbs or medication, blindly. Brethine is an example of a prescribed medication that almost killed me while I was pregnant. On the other hand, I have had bad reactions to herbal remedies such as St. John's Wort. Keep in mind that herbs taken with medications can be a disasterous combination so you should always be careful and watched when taking both.

Type 1, pure and simple, has no cure right now. Chromium, which is hailed as a miracle treatment, doesn't even really do anything for a type 1. I still believe that so many factors come into play when you are talking about curing a diabetic. Most of the curing is done by their own change in lifestyle

Again, individuals with type 1 diabetes have been cured. The traditional medical community would point to succesfully transplants of islet cells, but there are recorded cases of herbal therapy curing diabetes. No one should resign themselves to taking medicatons or insulin for the rest of their lives. At the very least, support stem cell therapy for transplants.

Again, individuals with type 1 diabetes have been cured. The traditional medical community would point to succesfully transplants of islet cells, but there are recorded cases of herbal therapy curing diabetes. No one should resign themselves to taking medicatons or insulin for the rest of their lives. At the very least, support stem cell therapy for transplants.

And how easy do you think it is to receive a stem cell transplant? Maybe it's available where you are (of which I've heard nothing), however where I live it's no where near being available.

Islet cell transplants are being used but only in people who have had other transplants, and only as experimental surgery. I know it's been done in Canada but I haven't heard of it in the US or the UK. And it's not routinely done anywhere. The anti-rejection drugs have too many side effects (cancer) to be used for an islet transplant only. And not only that but there just aren't enough donors available. Islet transplant may be the way in the future but only after the anti-rejection drugs have been made safer and they are able to create islet cells in a lab. Stem cell research is so important and there are so many answers there. But, herbal therapy? I'd be very interested to read some actual cases of herbs curing type 1. And I don't mean from some doc promoting his book for $29.99.

Again, individuals with type 1 diabetes have been cured. The traditional medical community would point to succesfully transplants of islet cells, but there are recorded cases of herbal therapy curing diabetes. No one should resign themselves to taking medicatons or insulin for the rest of their lives. At the very least, support stem cell therapy for transplants.


I would be very interested in reading these recorded cases of an herbal cure for diabetes. Please supply the reference for the rest of us.

Thanks.

Cora

http://chinese-school.netfirms.com/Chinese-medicine-diabetes-hypoglycemic-effect.html is a summary of a study done using Yu Xiao San.

This was published in the National Library of Medicine publication and it's a US government publication and available online. However, the study was done by the Asian doctors who sell the herb and I can't find any studies done by anyone else. These doctors also claim that Euonymus alatus dramatically shrinks cancer tumors when used in conjuction with gamma rays but not when used alone.

I would suggest that their success rate with type 2 is the fact that diet was also changed and the participants were warned not to eat high carbohydrate foods. It's not like they could just continue their current lifestyle and they were cured. And that's no different than what docs tell them now. Many type 2's (as many as quoted in the study) can be 'cured' if they change their diet. These Chinese docs had about a 20% success rate with type 2's who changed their diets. They had moderate success with a much larger percentage and I think that's probably the case for most type 2's who change their diet and try to help themselves. They won't be cured but will see some moderate success.

With type 1, they didn't have as much luck. Supposedly they did have some success (very limited, 6%) and that could be contributed to misdiagnoses or even people who were newly diagnosed and entering their honeymoon phase.

I'm not trying to put down the information, just putting it into perspective. From what I see, it does help people lose weight and control their blood sugar but only if they eat a low carb diet. The study itself says they had 2 groups of mice, one with a regular diet and one a high fat diet. On their website it says no carbs. So, it's pretty much an Atkins diet with an herb. Atkins has been known to reduce body fat and cholesterol, just like this study says, and that in turn will help to control diabetes and even cure some people.


Euonymus alatus (EA), known as a Gui Jeon Wu in China, has been used as a folk medicine for regulating blood circulation, relieving pain, eliminating blood clot, and treating dysmenorrhea in Asian countries. Although EA has anecdotally ascertained to show the anti-hyperglycemic activity by enhancing insulin secretion, there is no sufficient experimental evidence for anti-hyperglycemic activity of EA. The purpose of this study was to investigate the preventive effect of 50% ethanol extract of EA in high-fat diet-induced hyperglycemic and hyperlipidemic ICR mice. At 6 week old, the ICR mice were randomly divided into five groups; two control and three treatment groups. The control mice was to receive either a regular diet (RD) or high-fat diet (HFD), and the treatment groups were fed a high-fat diet with either 350, 700mg/kg of EA (EA350 and EA700) or 250mg/kg of metformin (MET250) for a 10-week period. EA not only reduced body weight in a dose dependent manner, but also corrected associated hyperinsulinemia and hyperlipidemia. EA exerted beneficial effects on glucose and lipid homeostasis in diabetes that are not secondary to its ability to decrease food intake but its specific effects on hepatic lipogenesis related genes (SREBPla, FAS, GAPT) and PPAR-gamma gene expression in periepididymal fat. Taken together, the combined effect of EA to reduce plasma glucose and lipid levels, and reduce the deposition of triglyceride in the liver are indicative of a marked improvement in obesity-related diabetes and non-alcoholic fatty liver disease.

Sorry, forgot to add that the main ingredient in the Yu Xiao San is the euonymus and that's why I looked up that particular herb. I didn't look into any of the other herbs listed. I think almost any herb, along with a low carb diet, will help many type 2's.