hello
im 30 yo guy and i had 2 days ago unprotected oral sex and protected vaginal sex with a prostitute. After i did it was very worried and i still am about contracting HIV.
So i started to search in the internet about the chances getting HIV from this behavour. And the result is that i got confused.
Some say that it is impossible to get HIV from receiving oral sex and other studies say that there is a risk.OK i understand tha if there is alot of blood in the mouth of the prostitute that there is a change to get HIV. But what if there is no blood or at least not so much so u can see it?
I suppose alot of people have unprotected oral sex and i dotn know if they worry as much as i do or if they go on with they lifes. I am now upset because i dont know what to do. Should i wait 3 and 6 month for the test or should i go on with my sex life with the danger to pass the virus to others ( if we accept that this what i did was dangerous for me to get HIV)?
Ok some will say do the test and meanwhile have protected sex. OK but what if someone will have unprotected oral sex with me? Should i do it or not?
I know all this sound little stupid but im really confused. Some people ( more cool) would say that this behavour is non risk and thats why i go on with my sex life. But im not that kind of person . I dont want to do bad to anyone if i have something because im stupid.
I will be happy to hear from you. ( chances to get HIV from what i did, Opinions on what i wrote , etc..)
thank you

Well, if anybody were to say that there is a zero risk in giving/recieving unprotected oral sex, they'd be downright wrong. As with any situation, there's a chance for ANYTHING. With that being said, there is a chance, given the right scenario, in which one can get HIV from oral sex. However, the right scenario, like you said, includes lots of blood from person whos infected, and deep cuts or sores in the mouth or on the recieving organ. The odds of getting HIV from oral sex, according the the CDC, are pretty low...and that's conservative. So, I would think you're okay, but there's always a slim possibility, as there is with any situation, that something out of the ordinary could've occured. You're obviously worried, so go get tested. iIt wouldn't hurt to do so, and this way, you don't even have to wonder about your status, protecting yourself, and those around you. Good luck my man
-S-

i will test.thats for sure..for my own peace of mind.
but that what i think is how many who have unprotected oral sex realyy worry like me. who is right and who is wrong. should we worry or not.
should we go on with our lifes without doubts of having hiv or should we be conservative ( not having sex , not touching alot other more likely little kids, etc.) until the test?
r all like me maybe overacting? i dont really know whats right or wrong.
and i dont care if i have got hiv from my actions. i just dont want to pass it to others.
i have done alot of hiv test over the years. and the truth is i dont want to have them all the time i have a possible exposure. i think every time we have sex that there is a possible exposure. But is this the solution ? one time sex ...6 month wait etc etc etc.
I wish they will find the medicin to cure hiv so we can live all in peace.
im open for more opinions. and still open for what u think r my chances for getting hiv from my action. Would u do a hiv test if u were in my position?
ty

panasonique is right man, for hiv transmission to occur orally - a lot of "what if's" need to be in place - such as open cuts, blood to blood contact, and so forth, and trust me, if you had open-cuts on your manhood - you wouldn't really want to receive oral!!! it's the same scenario with woman->man transmission, even unprotected, there needs to be a clear ROUTE for transmission - in that scenario, open cuts/sores on the penis or (RARELY) direct transmission through the urethra.

If you feel you have placed yourself at risk, yes, testing is warranted - but you have to remember, HIV Is nowhere near as easy to catch as people think - its a very very clever virus, but not a terribly resilient one, and if it *was* that easy to catch - more people would have it.

The general fear is the 'unknown' nature of it and the fact that it is, unfortunately, a long term terminal illness...

but the main message in ALL hiv scenarios is to take precautions - and practice safe sex - and dont go unprotected until your sure that both partners are clear!!!!

...the only way to find that out... testing!

i know that panasonique is right. and i didnt ment to say that he is wrong with my reply. And u flashvik r talking very nice and wise.
I agree with both of u. and if im right the conclusion is not to test if i think that there wasnt all the what ifs. right?
sure the best thing to do is to have a steady relationship and both partners test so they can have free sex without fears.
but excuse me , after all reading i did on the net, im still confused on what is safer or safe sex. noone can ever be sure after sex.There will be always a chance to get HIV as much carefull u will be or not.
But with this theory i think spreading the virus will go on and on.

yes, but in the same way, every time you drive your car - you risk dying from a crash!! People have to know the risk aroudn them and continue with their lives being as safe as possible.

Remember also, a lot of the time, when they say "low risk" - they are being over-cautious, in the same way that every time you leave your house, there is a "low risk" that a fragment of a meteorite will kill you falling from the sky - it COULD happen, but it probably wont - and in that sense, there's no point worrying.

Capiche?

Well, as much as I would love to supprt this love fest, I really do have to step in here. As an HIV+ male, you may be really cool and filled with bravado (as you both appear to be) but the fact of the matter is that your syntheses fall apart in so many ways: Look, everyone of us has engaged in "risky" behaviors, driven by any number of reasons, purposes or cross-purposes. But the fact is that there are tons of people engaging in those bahaviors despite what MTV, CDC, or those of us try to tell them say. Which is - you run the risk of shortening your life, extinguishing your goals, leaving your family, etc etc etc because, for whatever reason, hooking up with a prostiture, having sex with someone new, trusting someone who was HIV+ but chose not to share their status with you and, thus, ruined your life, sharing needles, etc. etc. etc. was more important at the moment. No rational person seeks to contract HIV. But there are tons of rational people who are willing to roll the dice and then spend time on these posts whining because now that someone gave them a blow job maybe they've contacted HIV.

So, you ask if you "should worry or not"...I think you want someone tell you not to worry and then you won't. But, I also think that you will worry because that's your nature and while you think you could live with HIV, there seems to be this misguided nobility that thinks you're just very superior because you don't want to infect anyone else. THe rule? If you don't want to infect anyone else, don't get infected yourself! (Oh, and leave the martyr at the door before checking in at the AIDS clinic.)

Then you say: "I don't know what's right or wrong." I know you mean what information is correct or not...but I do believe, subconsciously, you've asked a really pertinent question that you may want to spend more time with in order to learn more about yourself and then come up with a suitable answer.

Then you say (and I particularly enjoy this): I wish they'd "find a cure for HIV so we can live all (sic) in peace." But I don't think you mean that "so we all can live in peace." I think you mean, so "I can have whatever sex I want, continue to be hedonistic and narcissistic, and not worry about anything else." Well, that's all fine, but the cure is not right around the corner and for the millions of persons who do not live in developed countries like ours, where the medications and physician practises are as advanced as they are, for the women and children who live in a culture in which, for men to wear a condom reduces their manhood, it is already too late.

And, finally, for flaskvik, your meteor metaphor is pretty lame. I mean our original poster went out and found a prostitute. ANd, in so doing, is now worried about his HIV status (or is actually worried about the rightness or wrongness of worrying about is HIV status). I suspect that oral sex is low risk. That's what the internet tells us, and the CDC, etc. But low-risk is not low-risk if you're the one sitting in the clinic office and just learned that you now have HIV. Then, that meteor you were so worried about? It just landed on your head. chris

I guess ill add my 2 cents in ..........
Many people can and do get infected the first time so as far as hiv being hard to get ( in the right circumstances you will )
Remember many people have no clue at all they even have it and may have an incredably high viral load and also some one that goes through the accute phase wher when the virus first enters the body and can replicate to 8 million or more befor the body has a chance to cut it down can be most contagous in the accute stages .
During the accute stages the virus replicates out of control ( hiv is very smart ) during this phase it is able to spread out and get a very firm grip on the body and hide just about anywhere and everywhere and the person infected has know clue it is there .
Because of such a very high viral load the person infected is at there most contagous .
Even though oral is conciderd low risk ther are certain factors that can apply such an cuts ( hard tooth brushing , herpies lesions , cuts by flossing too hard and even gyngavitas ) ulcers in the stomach and even throat can also make the threat very real .
Any unprotected sex has its risks and not just for hiv but also many many other std that can be just as life threatning such as .........
HUMAN HERPIES 6 AND 7 - a stealth virus in the way that the immune system knows its there but has trouble finding it and tears the body apart looking for it and although not as bad as AIDS both can shred the immune system and also make life a living hell .
MONONUCLEOSIS ( MONO ) - can in some cases become a chronic illness and even lead to chronic fatige disorder it can rupture lymphnodes , cause hepatitas , and also rupture the spleen
CYTOMEGLAVIRUS ( CMV ) -has the same symtoms as mono but can also settle in the heart and cause it to murmer and even race .
Cmv symtoms are also more reacurrant and can last much longer and linger for years
HEPATITIS -B- can cause liver damage to the point of needing a transplant and also liver failure and death and in some cases even become a chronic illness
HEPATITIS-A- although not as bad as hepB it cen be the worst stomach flu you ever had and linger on for up to 2 months or even more
HEPATITIS-C- although still under question on whether or not it can truly be clasified as a STD some cases have been reported the means of infection was through sexual intercourse and its viral antigen have also been found in semen and salive but also viral load is also conciderd a factor
SYPHALIS- although a bacterial infection it can also be a very quiet attacker and cause great internal damage as well as severe and also permanant damage to the nervous system as well as the brain and although curable at any stage the damage done is permanent .
And a great viarety of other illnesses and if you think that actualy catching one is like hitting the lottery WELL check the other boards and see what the other people that do have them feel like .
Believe me 1 in 500 that's 1 lottery I don't think anybody wants to win ......... But many people do :nono:
Play it safe .........
In good health ..............
.............. Lost Spirit ................

Yesterday I watched a man take his own life in full view of the public - because he had just been told he was HIV +, I live in a third world country and there is no support for these people. Sometimes we need to put things in perspective and be rational in our thoughts. It is hard as when we are scared we rush into a panic form....This man was still in his hospital gown and if he had the support that is available to most of us today it would have made a big difference. In conclusion I am saying that we should take a step back and look at our options before we "jump" to conclusions. Love....J :wave:

apologies if my posting sounded to be with-bravado, i fully appreciate what your saying, but i just felt that it was worth taking a 'step back' view also. it was not meant to sound insensitive, or without forethought.

I am currently in a 'window period' myself, and am also worried about things - but was just hoping that using the advice ive got from others (here and on other places) that i may be able to help folk on here.

rgds,

Flashvic listen every one is entitaled to their opinion and its ok to voice it .
I know you're scared about you're window period and I just wanted you to know that my love , hope and prayers are also with you and also my respect because for all you're going through you still have found it in you're heart to help others and I do see you have learnd a lot and you're information is very good :angel: and it takes a very strong person to do that even in their darkest of days and we will all be here for you if you need us .
In friendship ..........
.......... Lost Spirit ..............
You're a good man

first of all to all people who answered and rephrased what i wrote.
SORRY that my english isnt my motherlanguage and i couldnt write down better what i wanted to say.
and to the subject now.
as i told i had unprotected oral sex.
most opinions say that there is no reason to test. And i think the most people on earth who have unprotected oral sex are not testing ( thats what i believe at least - say so if u think im wrong). Can u imagine what would happen if all people after that act would go to test?
Now because im worried and think about testing i get to hear all that **** from u? I just wanted an opinion from u who have read alot about HIV.
And some of u stayed at the matter that i did it with prostitute. Yes and i think im not the only one. That sounds racistic. The next who will be said is u did it with a man? ohh thats ur problem. etc etc... think u get the point.
And of course i would love to have a free sex live and have sex with everyone i wanted without fears. Thats the nature of people.
Thats for now. I come back when i done my english lessons.

Ford16man, first I don’t believe anyone was judging you for your choice in partners. The point I think they were trying to make is that a prostitute carries a higher rate of transferring a virus of any kind because of the amount of partners they have. Now if this person was an employee of a business that requires testing of its entire staff then you would be decreasing that chance. You were aware that this person was a prostitute so there for you also should have been just as aware of the risks that were taking by having unprotected sex.

When asking about who is right and who is wrong on the internet. Well you really need to consider the source. There is a website that can support each and every point of view for every topic there is. It is up to you to decide which is believable and which is not. We can’t make that decision for you.
You wanted to know your chances well it’s just like Russian roulette. You first have to consider is the person HIV+ in the first place, then do you or they have any type of open wound that would allow the virus to transfer, and then you will have to add in the time of exposure and the ever popular viral load at that time.
There really is no honest way that we can tell you if your risk level was High or Low, we weren't there and we don't have all the parts to solve the equation. So the only way to answer the question is with testing.
As far as your knowledge of the English language is concerned you are doing wonderful. I know a lot of people that live in this country and call it home and don’t speak or write it as well.

I wish you well, and let us know how things go,
Casey

And i think the most people on earth who have unprotected oral sex are not testing ( thats what i believe at least - say so if u think im wrong). Can u imagine what would happen if all people after that act would go to test?

Can u imagine??? The world would be a whole helluva lot better now wouldnt it :bouncing: