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I know you're scared and the stress can be absolutely unbearable and the window period is a very scarey stressfull thing .
Oral sex is concidered low rist BUT it does come back to the whole unprotected sex theory and even though the risk is a very slim one because the sex was unprotected you can't rule it out completly .
The body of hiv known as the ( ANTIGEN ) is very weak and does not readily absorb into the skin and also doesn't stand up to the mouth very well unless there is an entry point for it to enter into .
If there was gingavitas , mouth lesion , cuts or even an ulcer that would make the threat very real but also on the other side saliva is very acidic , the mouth has a lining of mucas to protect it , the good bacteria would also attack it the fungas that also lives in the mouth is very alkaline and would also hurt it .
Then if any did make it down to you're stomach it would still be attacked by the acidaphilas ( good bacteria ) and the digestive system .
Salive floods food with acid , atibodies , enzymes , bacteria , natural antivirals , mucas because the mouth is a clear opening into the body and the body knows that and that's why we don't get sick every time we eat .
Now just because hiv is weak against the bodys mouth , throat and stomach defenses doesn't mean that another std can't get in that way so you have to be careful and there are a lot of other std that can pass the barriers of the mouth .
Try to stay away from the internet because you will only scare youreself more and try to stay hopeful ...OK :angel:
Keep posting because me and the many many other wonderful people are all ready and willing to help :angel: WE ALL LOVE YOU !!!!!!!!!!
Its a very scarey thing what you're going through ( believe me I know ) but you will get through it regardless ;)
I'm always here for you :angel:
......... Lost Spirit ...........

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If you're in the usa you could call and set up an appointment at an AIDS COUNCEL they understand and know what you're going through and also provide counceling .
YOU ARE NOT ALONE and many many people here have either went through or are going through what you're going through rite now and we all care about you :angel:
Whenever you get those lonely scared feelings just come here and tell us all about it and we will be more then happy to talk to you ;)
Can't wait to hear from you again J :)

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Help and an understanding heart will be waiting for you whenever you need and want it .
Love and friendship .............;)
........... Lost Spirit ...........

THANK YOU LS..... :)









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I today went back to my doctor and had a blood test as the waiting is killing me, I wish I had not, the result was +...... this will be my last post, - my life will now be changed for ever, I will be going home, I have lost everything.....

Do you know what tests were used ?
And no you're life is not over because you had caugh it early and still have a chance at a normal life !
If you went into denial and turned a blind eye to it then you would give hiv a chance to knock you're legs out from under you ( because that's what hiv is vest at )
But you caught it as early as possable .
LISTEN TO ME I was infected with hiv,hepC,and syphalis ( all at the same time I might add ) I sufferd from a ruptured spleen , 2 ruptured lymphnodes and 1 removed because it was so huge and my skin was almost orange from jaundice .
I sufferd 2 nervous breakdowns and much much more !
I felt like I was worth absolutely nothing and that was just a walking disease .
All that from trying to help a woman that was attacked in the upstairs apartment by her so who was high on drugs I had direct blood to blood contact and even had blood in my eyes .
I couldn't believe all that happend to me just from trying to help someone and I thought my life was over .......... That was 15 years ago ........
My T-cell count fluctuates between 1,000 and 850 but YES a bad enough infection due to a flu or sinus infection can knock them down a bit lower but they do come back in time .
I have never had thrush or any of that weared stuff happen but I also take very good care of myself and you will need to do the same ;)
Trust me you're life is only over if you let hiv WIN !
You're going to be around for a very long time SO DON'T GIVE UP OR GO WRITING YOU'RE WILL JUST YET !
You're still in the accute phase where the virus is very high in you're bloodstream and in most cases you will need to wait until you're body gets control over it and knock the numbers down on its own ( the immune system puts up an incredable fight ) after that you're T-cells will slowly begin to recover and raise in numbers once again after that you and you're doctor will need to discuss whether or not to go on an anti-retroviral regimen ( not everyone needs to start treatment right away ) and also to make all you're vaccinations are also up to date .
Hiv is controlable and you caught it as early as possable ( it takes a lot of courage to get tested ) and you did the rite thing and I commend you for that :angel:
Like I said you're going to be around for a very long time and geting a hiv+ result is not an easy pill to swallow but in time you do accept it .
I'm am here for you so please keep posting because me and many others all love and care about you :angel:
We all make mistakes and the real hurdle you have to deal jump over is forgiving youreself and that takes time .
Soulsickness can be a very powerful thing and it is even more damaging than hiv itself and remember time heals all wounds but there is alway a scare .
I am here for you :angel:
WE are here for you :angel:
And you're not alone because GOD loves you and so do I :angel:
Love ..........
........... Lost Spirit ...........

I WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU AGAIN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! KEEP TALKING TO ME :nono:

Ckey are you still reading ?
Please answer !

Ckey, please come back to post...I'm thinking about you and you are in my prayers, friend.

Ckey I'm still waiting to hear from you :angel:
If you're reading you will always be in my thoughts and prayers :angel:
Please post back to me :angel:
I'm not giving up on you so don't ever give up on youreself :angel:
And I hope when you're ready to talk to us you will let us know :angel:
Until then I will be waiting for you :angel:

Hi LS - ...

I am going back to the Hospital today to get my results of a a western blot. not sure what that means but they called me late yesterday and said that my test needs confirmation. I am in a strange place now and will be leaving tommorow to go home...... Thank you for your posts..... I am just so confused ,, :yawn:

Hey listen, a positive Elisa test needs to be confirmed with a Western Blot. This is done because an Elisa test can show a positive without meaning the individual in question is HIV +. A western Blot is more sensitive to HIV, and looks for it specifically. Somebody can test + on Elisa everytime and negative on a western blot meaning they are HIV-. Its possible, coupled with your risk, that you are indeed negative. However, I can not say for sure, only a western blot will determine this. I hope your ok, this must be awful, but keep the faith, you may be suprised.

Hey listen, a positive Elisa test needs to be confirmed with a Western Blot. This is done because an Elisa test can show a positive without meaning the individual in question is HIV +. A western Blot is more sensitive to HIV, and looks for it specifically. Somebody can test + on Elisa everytime and negative on a western blot meaning they are HIV-. Its possible, coupled with your risk, that you are indeed negative. However, I can not say for sure, only a western blot will determine this. I hope your ok, this must be awful, but keep the faith, you may be suprised.

You know, I'd have to agree with MJ. Your risk just seems so low and it is highly possible you could test negative for Western Blot.

Please do let us know - we're here for you.

I am finding this very hard to deal with… I have just been told that I need to wait until tomorrow to get my Western Blot result. I have been through so much this last few months, two Elisa tests, one PCR test and now this wait again, the other day I say a man take his own life and later found out from reading in the news paper that we was HIV+ and that’s why he jumped. I have to be strong here now and can not let this show... How can I do that? I am planning on leaving tomorrow but still need to wait for this result. If it is neg then should I stay….??? I really don’t know anymore……… :confused:

Ckey o don't want you to stop posting regardless of results ......... OK
Nelieve me I know how hard it must be for you BUT you need to be strong you made it this far .
The ELISA is the more sensative of the 2 tests but it is not as specific where as the the western blot has direct hiv protiens ( HIV'S BODY ) on it and the antibodies that caused the ELISA to react are put up directly against it .
2 bars on the test need to react on the test and they are the ( P-24 ANTIGEN ) bars and that means that the antibodies did infact attack the viral protiens on the test .
Ckey keep posting .......PLEASE
And JON and SPETACULAR thank you .
You both are truly angels and I'm glad to have you both as friends :)

Thats ok Lost Spirit, I count myself as lucky purely to know you :) Thanks friend x

And JON and SPETACULAR thank you .
You both are truly angels and I'm glad to have you both as friends :)

Oh, LS, are you kidding me? I'm the one who's blessed for having met you. I have much love for you, friend.

CK, my prayer and thoughts are with you. I am sorry that your are having to wait longer.
As far as leaving because of the results, make sure before you get on a plane that you are leaving because you want to and/or need to not because you are positive or negative.
The only thing that the test is going to do is verify what is already fact. Whether you are negative or positive I am sure that you are going to practice safer sex, and since you are in the medical field you will have more safety precautions. Whether you are protecting yourself or someone else. If you are positive you are going to have to change a couple things in your routine to ensure you are eating right and taking the medications that you need. Other then that your life is still going to remain the same for many years. Dont allow this disease take over and alter your life in a bad way either way that test comes out. Half of the battle is a mental one, you are a strong person, use that strength and lean on us if you need or want too.

Best of luck to you, and keep posting no matter what the result is. You are a kind and caring person and we can all use more of those qualities in our lives.

Today I went back to the hospital and was told that my WB was neg and therefore my Elisa was a faulse pos? it is still 2 weeks before my 90 day mark so I have to go back aqain... I am weak now,,,,I know I should have waited and perhaps could have avoided this, but I am not thinking properly and that makes me angry. I will let u know what happens next weak, thank you all for your help...

Ckey listen to me ........
What I'm looking at rite now is this .......
Oral sex ( low risk ) but not impossable
Reactive elisa ( false posative ) could happen
Especialy where you're at ......
Negative western blot ( TEST IN 1 MONTH ) just to make sure the elisa didn't react befor the western blot had a chance to
( elisa is the more sensative test )
I know its hard but realy ...... Take my advice wait at least 1 month .......
And if the western blot is still negative ........ WALK AWAY !
And consider this a lesson learned :nono:
I'm here for you Ckey ..... Remember that :angel:
............ Lost Spirit ...........

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