What are the chances of me getting HIV from french kissing someone and I had a soar in my mouth? (I bit my cheek earlier that day) AND also give someone a BJ. I know this is risky behavior but I really like this guy. Please no responses from those who hate gays or bible thumpers. Thanks!
MrJon
09-05-2005, 10:14 AM
Hey, first off, noone will ever judge you here. Second, french Kissing, nil risk. Third, giving head, slim, theoretical risk. Testing is a personal choice here.
Finally, so you like this guy do you? Well thats very nice but thats hardly an argument for you ruining your health is it. Testing should come first.
Can I get an amen? Lol ;)
mitley
09-05-2005, 10:52 AM
Thanks for the reply!!! I feel much better now. No - I know it's not ruining my health but it's been over 7 years since I dated, I guess I just got overzealous.
last1
09-05-2005, 10:59 AM
Dear DOG! AMEN!! Mr. Jon is right on! Did the partner ejaculate in you mouth? I know that passion is as difficult to hold back as the levees of Louisiana, however, just be careful. You are important to all of us and the world really needs insightful, passionate and sensitive people. chris
MrJon
09-05-2005, 06:17 PM
Exactly, don't jeapordise (sp) your health over anybody, beacause nothing is guaranteed when it comes to relationships. How do you know that this guy wont just disappear?Could you deal with the fact that if this guy was +, and you contracted it from him and he just left you after a quick fumble? Not worth it. Stay safe from now on. Chris is right to ask, was there semen involved? And if either of you are sailors thats not what I mean ;) Lol
Soulcatcher
09-05-2005, 09:26 PM
Is it so out of place now a days to ask the guy to get tested, that you really want to be intimate with him? Maybe it's me.
panaSONIQUE
09-06-2005, 11:21 AM
I think for some people there's a little bit of a stigma attached to getting tested in honor of an inquiring partner..some of us don't want to seem too careful for fear of looking like a "prude" or "lame" because we can't enjoy sex with protection...I don't agree with this position, but judging from the behavior from my peers etc, this seems to be the reason why so many people neglect getting tested...my generation just doesn't seem to grasp the implications unprotected sex may have, and if they do, they pretend not to care, because it's to complex an issue in a generation that's bent on simplicity and it's too scary for a generation dedicated to invinsibility.
To me, if you're a boyfriend not willing to get tested when I ask , then we won't be intimate, or there will be a condom involved each and everytime...hell, there will always be a condom invovled regardless if you test positive or negative...to the rest, i won't be intimate with you because why risk it, for one night? That we may never remember? And for those who laugh at me because I inquire...well...I won't laugh with you...
thats just my ranting for today
-S-
SPECTACULAR
09-06-2005, 01:11 PM
Well said, Sarah. I understand how some people feel that ignorance is bliss. It's not right, but I *do* understand the fear of finding out.
I'm scared...I really am...I hear so many stories of people sleeping around with multiple people; having unprotected sex and getting pregnant; sharing partners and such. Why doesn't HIV cross their minds?...or maybe it does but, in their worlds, it's not a concern of the hear and now.
I just don't know. What will it take?
Edited to say: You know, I guess I should really get off my high horse because I've participated in my share of very risky behavior. I certainly wasn't thinking about HIV at those times. I guess we each have our lessons to learn.
God bless.
MrJon
09-06-2005, 04:42 PM
To be fair I never even worried about HIV until I thoght of it and I was one risky lil' fella, I was always more worried about pregnancy. Guess that we all need a good scare. The real answer is in the lack of education we all recieve.
mitley
09-07-2005, 02:25 AM
Thanks for all the wonderful posts. Right now the relationship is quite rocky so I'm glad I didn't do anything that would risk this. Although one time I did taste his precum but I have enough to worry about unless someone tells me different.
mitley
09-07-2005, 02:26 AM
Thanks for all the wonderful posts. Right now the relationship is quite rocky so I'm glad I didn't do anything that would risk this. Although one time I did taste his precum but I have enough to worry about unless someone tells me different.
last1
09-07-2005, 05:24 AM
Hi, everyone! I think that there really are two points to be made here (at least). The first is that, there may be a mindest that, while horrible in it's own way, HIV is "curable" and that there so many"new" drugs out there that it is becoming to be considered a "chronic illnes" (like diabetes) or "medically managable." But, for some of us it isn't, and for whatever reason that we may not yet be aware, the virus mutates, we have waited way too long to be tested, or just plain dumb luck, HIV does become a death sentence.
Secondly, there is the "invincibility factor" which says ultimately that "it won't touch me". I particularly like this reason becuase it implies that we have a better hold on our health than do others. And that the others are the poor schmucks adn we are the "invincible ones". IT's all garbage, you know! Good Lord, we have all participated in risky behaviors but, as we have said here, right conditions/right partner and you become the one with HIV trying to counsel others in their own health. chris
panaSONIQUE
09-07-2005, 11:37 AM
Hi, everyone! I think that there really are two points to be made here (at least). The first is that, there may be a mindest that, while horrible in it's own way, HIV is "curable" and that there so many"new" drugs out there that it is becoming to be considered a "chronic illnes" (like diabetes) or "medically managable." But, for some of us it isn't, and for whatever reason that we may not yet be aware, the virus mutates, we have waited way too long to be tested, or just plain dumb luck, HIV does become a death sentence
I don't even know if you've directed this at me...but I know I always say that,,ALOT, and my face turned kind of red when I read that :o , so I figured I'd enlighten you...at least if you weren't meaning me in paticular, I can help you out a little :bouncing:
When I tell people this when they need advice, it's simply to urge them to get tested. I feel, in most cases, testing early, picking from a host of new medication, exerscising, eating right, etc etc will surley prolong the lifespan as opposed to the expected lifespan we all remeber in the 80s and 90s in which some people still believe. So, in making this point, I'm trying to do two things...1) get people to test early, because in most cases, the disease can be managable and 2) detach the stigma that HIV kills instantly (like in the 80s and 90s)....I realize that this isn't always the case...but if I were to ask someone for advice and they said "well, yaknow, you can test, but there's a slim chance that if indeed you're positive, well, there might be next to nothing you can do"...why would I bother testing??
Im probably in no place to be making the decision to say this, but I just thought with the medical advances we've had as well as a little hope, at least I can pretend to know what I'm saying...and let people know that it can be managable...of course that isn't always the truth...and i feel horribly for the people who try, and have no luck...soooo in any case, im sorry if i've offended anyone :angel:
good day
-Sarah