kloet
09-12-2005, 06:16 PM
hormone is most dominantant? Do you have more estrogen or is it progesterone? I am 36 years old and just started experiencing irregular menstruals, terrible confusion, foggy brain, can not think straight almost like going completely crazy, can not lose weight, lack of motivation, no energy and absolutely no sex drive. I have had thyroid tested and all levels are in the normal range so I am thinking that I am starting peri-menopause. Any advice or information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks and God Bless.
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Hopefully
09-12-2005, 07:54 PM
Welcome to perimenopause :wave: , hold on for the ride of your life :D . I've read several books about being estrogen dominant during peri. and that using progesterone should cure many of the symptoms. Well, I can only speak from my own experience, but my symptoms became worst when I used progesterone. So I don't think that estrogen dominant theory is true for all women. If you do a search on this site you will probably find many posts about estrogen dominance that might be useful :) .
dreamer40
09-12-2005, 09:04 PM
I think I have been in perimenopause for a few years now and didn't know it, I asked my doctor if he thinks I could be perimenopause since I am in lower fourties, he said no, but my periods have gotten progressivly heavier, and for the first time the last couple of months I skipped a period,
got a full exam and I meet the symptoms of peri but I wonder if the doctor knows what he is talking about, anyway started on seasonale to lighten up the periods, and as for the question about estrogen, they say that it causes over production of blood and tissue in the uterus and that pergestorone thins the lining and prevents anemia due to heavy bleeding,
but I read contradictions some say too much progesteron causes bone loss, and other symptoms that are usually associated with estrogen dominance, so personally I think they really aren't sure about this, they are only taking an educated guess.
I am wondering they attribute too much estrogen as a disease, but I would think (unless disease or something)that if progesterone was so important for survival or good health that the body would not allow it to go too low, estrogen is made by other tissues besides the ovaries, even tho 50 percent less than othewise when ovaries make it too, that it may be too important for life to allow to drop to low.
so I am confused too, so you are in good company, sometimes I wonder do the doctors really know what they are doing?
RR
got a full exam and I meet the symptoms of peri but I wonder if the doctor knows what he is talking about, anyway started on seasonale to lighten up the periods, and as for the question about estrogen, they say that it causes over production of blood and tissue in the uterus and that pergestorone thins the lining and prevents anemia due to heavy bleeding,
but I read contradictions some say too much progesteron causes bone loss, and other symptoms that are usually associated with estrogen dominance, so personally I think they really aren't sure about this, they are only taking an educated guess.
I am wondering they attribute too much estrogen as a disease, but I would think (unless disease or something)that if progesterone was so important for survival or good health that the body would not allow it to go too low, estrogen is made by other tissues besides the ovaries, even tho 50 percent less than othewise when ovaries make it too, that it may be too important for life to allow to drop to low.
so I am confused too, so you are in good company, sometimes I wonder do the doctors really know what they are doing?
RR
Lady50
09-13-2005, 10:42 AM
I have heard in peri the progesterone drops really low before the estrogen. Then, later in menopause, they both wittle down to nothing, but slowly. ;)
pixiek
09-13-2005, 10:08 PM
Let me add (hi Lady50!) that watch out for "normal" thyroid tests! You may want to pursue that a bit further and a post on the thyroid board with your labs and ranges will give you a little more insight to that. Unfortunately peri and hypo symptoms are very, very similar..and by the way you can be peri as info tells us that it can begin 5 to 10 years before meno. Hope this helps. Pixiek
ainfante
09-13-2005, 11:59 PM
I did the natural progesterone creme for 2 years. Finally , my gyne asked me to get off of it, it might be causing my breasts to become fibrocystic, not to say the progesterone creme did help occasionally with anxiety and the balancing of periods, it eventually became my culprit. Once I gotoff of it, my breasts went back to normal but my periods arent' always regular, light bleeding and shakiness before my periods. True, progesterine declines way before estrogen. But estogen I find to be way more important than progesterone. I mean progesterone was the baby hormone. without that hormone, misscarriage is definite. Chastenberry ( my sister is takng that) will make your ovaries produce hormones,therefore balancing the two (estrogen and progesterone) Anyone can be estrogen dominance in their late 30's, 40's because these are the ages of perimenopause but younger women than these ages mentioned can have perimenopause too if their bodies are going into early menopause. There are ovarian diseases to that coz estrogen dominance, and in reality it's the lack of progesterone that causes estrogen dominance which therefore, lol and therefore you have estrogen dominance. So everyone in perimenopause one time or another is estrogen dominant. Esrogen dominance would also incread uterine fibroids. IN menopause, generaly fibroids stop growing coz the estrogen is declining. Same for endemeterois. All of these I've mentioned are caused by hormone inbalances. Hope this heops.