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Hopefully
09-19-2005, 01:35 PM
It's been 45 days since my last period :bouncing: !!!!!!! I'm hoping that I'm on the road to menopause, especially since my last fsh was 34.5.

The only thing is that I feel like poop. I'll have moments (hours or sometime and entire day) where I feel wonderful, then there are those other days...I've been posting lately about my blood pressure because I'm believing God that my bp will be regulated. Ever since I stopped taking bcp I've been having moments of feeling anxious, wobbly legs, nervous, multiple hot flashes within in a 30 minute period (I rarely had hot flashes when I took bcp), incontinence, multiple trips to the restroom at night, night & day sweats and of course the elevated blood pressure.

I'm on 2 different bp medications, both low dose, but I think that I either need to adjust the dosage or try a different brand. I'm going to the cardiologist in about 30 minutes. Oops, I'm totally off the topic :nono:.

Anyone else counting down?

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rmc12
09-19-2005, 01:47 PM
HI Hopefully,

Yes I am right there with you "counting down"!! I am on day 76 and this is the first time I have gone this long without my period. The longest stretch I have had was 2 years ago at day 50 and then a couple of times this year near day 40. Mostly mine has been earlier, like in the early to mid 20s. So this is very unusual for me and I , like you I hope I am on the road to menopause too!!

I too can relate to how you feel when you said you have moments or an entire day when you feel wonderful then other days not so wonderful and very low. I do not take birth control pills nor have I since my early 20s for a couple years, but have had feelings during this time of anxiety thru this peri ride,nervousness and feeling wobbly. Never have had hot flashes but last year dealt with night sweats/gastric stuff and high anxiety. The anxiety comes and goes for me and like you said at times I feel great, other times feel the opposite. So it is an on and off thing.

Here's hoping we continue our countdown!!

Take care,

rmc

Hopefully
09-19-2005, 06:16 PM
RMC, what are you taking to help with the anxiety, and do you have high blood pressure?

This anxiety thing is no joke. I was so anxious today because of my dr. appt. that my pressure was quite elevated. Before going to the doctor I took my pressure at home and it was good, not low like it was before going into perimenopause, but it was good. I was in high anxiety at the doctor's office that I felt faint. I'm sure that it was from the elevated blood pressure. This doctor seems to be thorough so he's going to monitor my heart, do the stress test, and check my cholesterol.

Anyway, hopefully this time next year we will be celebrating menopause and symptom relief. I know some women still deal with some symptoms, but I'm praying for total relief. Looking at my mother and aunt they seem to be doing quite well after the change.

lorbis
09-19-2005, 08:49 PM
I just wrote last week about the same things-some days I feel great, and other days I just feel yucky. Sometimes, I start a day feeling just splendid, and then all of a sudden, the yuckiness will set in. I get the wobbly leg feeling, the anxiety, etc. What helps is knowing that, unfortunately, you all are going through the same thing-at least this helps me know I'm not nuts or crazy!!

This too shall pass!\\Laurie

rmc12
09-20-2005, 01:15 AM
Hopefully,

I was given xanax to take as needed for anxiety. I took it a bit last year when things were really out of hand. I have also taken it a bit this year but nothing that was routine. Have not taken it in awhile.

No I have never had high blood pressure. I have a friend who has it though and it seems to have elevated in Peri.

I know what you mean about being in high anxiety at the doctors. I am like that too. My annual mammogram and pap are due in Oct and I always get that way for both. So I am not surprised your blood pressure would be elevated in the doctor's office from what it was at home.

My cholesterol has elevated in peri and I really am not doing anything different than I was last year when it was not elevated. So that is why I think it is peri and I have read that it could affect it.

Yes I hope too that we can be celebrating a symptom free menopause next year too at this time. Keep me posted on how you are doing in your countdown and I will do the same. It is always good to know others are going thru the same thing.

I agree with you about your aunt and your mom...I too have relatives who obviously have made it thru this and are doing well so there is hope!!

Take care,

rmc

Hopefully
09-20-2005, 01:31 PM
RMC, I have an appointment with a new ob/gyn on Monday, an I plan to discuss many concerns with her at that time. I've tried Xanax, Ativan, and Valium in the past for anxiety. Right now I'm thinking that I probably need something, on an as needed basis, to help me over this hurdle. I really believe that this anxiety is one of the reasons why my blood pressure is elevated. If I felt calm then surely it should lower my bp. I will keep posting about the count down to menopause. Hopefully, we won't have any "surprise" visits during the count down :).

molly123
09-20-2005, 02:09 PM
Hi hopefully,
All the symptoms you listed are exactly ALL the things I had (plus others) when I was what I call "tranisitoning" from peri to meno. My symptoms were everyday at varying degrees tho. Hated it! I didn't feel better till I was put on Paxil CR - and to me, it was a lifesaver. I literally felt this "lift" within minutes of taking it, I felt better! I felt such relief that I remember crying over it! I know there's a lot of bad talk about ADs and esp. Paxil, but to me, it's a individual thing....what's bad for one, might be good for another.

The anxiety, nervous feeling were horrible...I also had the internal shakes at that time at which I later found was another symptom! My BP also went up during this time...it was as high as in the 130's/high 90's, which was never normal for me. I had heart palps too. Since I'm in post-meno now, my last BP test taken was 110/70! So, I think that transition time really does a big-time number on our bodies - I've read that all these symptoms, esp. the hot flashes, is when your hormones are really acting up and it's trying to balance itself...when it stops, your hormones found a good fit!

Since you posted that you've tried several anti-anxiety med - keep in mind that they are not intended for long-term use (can be addicting, then it doesn't work after a while), so you might consider an AD instead....and not on an as-needed basis...you have to take it on a consistent basis. I never i my life thought I would resort to an AD, but boy! I was desperate! Or, if you don't want to try the AD route, try meditating, exercising daily, don't associate yourself with anything or anyone that will upset/stress you out!

molly

Hopefully
09-20-2005, 06:17 PM
Hi hopefully,
All the symptoms you listed are exactly ALL the things I had (plus others) when I was what I call "tranisitoning" from peri to meno. My symptoms were everyday at varying degrees tho. Hated it! I didn't feel better till I was put on Paxil CR - and to me, it was a lifesaver. I literally felt this "lift" within minutes of taking it, I felt better! I felt such relief that I remember crying over it! I know there's a lot of bad talk about ADs and esp. Paxil, but to me, it's a individual thing....what's bad for one, might be good for another.

The anxiety, nervous feeling were horrible...I also had the internal shakes at that time at which I later found was another symptom! My BP also went up during this time...it was as high as in the 130's/high 90's, which was never normal for me. I had heart palps too. Since I'm in post-meno now, my last BP test taken was 110/70! So, I think that transition time really does a big-time number on our bodies - I've read that all these symptoms, esp. the hot flashes, is when your hormones are really acting up and it's trying to balance itself...when it stops, your hormones found a good fit!

Since you posted that you've tried several anti-anxiety med - keep in mind that they are not intended for long-term use (can be addicting, then it doesn't work after a while), so you might consider an AD instead....and not on an as-needed basis...you have to take it on a consistent basis. I never i my life thought I would resort to an AD, but boy! I was desperate! Or, if you don't want to try the AD route, try meditating, exercising daily, don't associate yourself with anything or anyone that will upset/stress you out!

molly


Molly, here is a great big {{{{{{{HUG}}}}}}}. I really needed to read your post at this moment :). My bp was quite high a few minute ago so I had to call my cardiologist who had me to increase one of my bp meds. For some reason, of course I know that it has to do with my hormones, my blood pressure will suddenly just spike. All of this has taken place within the last month which correlates with me not having a period in 46 days.

I've even lost almost 15 pounds and have been eliminating trigger foods from my diet in order to regulate my bp.

Did you have to take bp medication? So you are saying that since you are postmeno. your bp. is back to normal?

I agree with your 100% about taking an antidepressant if that will help us. I have tried antianxiety medications on a as needed basis, but I've been taking Wellbutrin XL 150mg for well over a year. I haven't taken Ativan, Xanax or Valium since...hmm.................maybe 2003.

Thanks again for the encouragement.

molly123
09-21-2005, 03:46 PM
Hi Hopefully,
Glad I was able to give you some reassurance. Don't know if you have a history of high BP, but I didn't so my dr. didn't put me on any BP med. In fact, he wasn't too worried about it. IMO, sometimes drs. jump too soon to put you on meds. I think the first thing is to try to treat/manage it thru diet/exercise, etc. Also, esp. if you don't have a history of high BP and you know it's hormones, let it go....don't monitor it, don't worry about b/c it will just make it worse. I remember during the time when I was going thru my transition, I was going to the drs. so often, my BP was checked frequently....that was year 2003 and that's when it was mostly high 130'ish/high 90'ish> I think it was the heart palps that caused me to check my heart rate everyday and the monitor I have also shows my BP so I know it was on the high side.

Are you experiencing heart palps too? I don't know exactly when my BP went back to normal but when I had my checkup June 2004, it was on the closer to being normal (high 120'ish/high 80'ish)...I had my last period in June 2004....then I had my next checkup on July 2005 and it was 110/70....and I didn't have my period for 1 year already.

And speaking about quick to prescribe meds, let me tell you what happened to my sister -- she had an allergic reaction to latex when she was in the hospital (even tho it was posted everywhere except her forehead!). Anyway, they gave her benedryl intravenously and it caused her heart to go really fast and she ended up in ICU. Then they wanted to start putting her on beta blockers and suddenly she has a heart condtion?! Duh! She studied medicine so she told them off as to how they almost killed her and that it was the high dose of benedryl even tho she told them over/over again how sensitive she was to meds. She refused the meds and to this day, she doesn't have a heart condition, no high BP, etc.

Did you lose your 15 lbs from diet change? Wow! I lost over 15 lbs. when I was going thru my "transition" time...no appetite was my problem (it isn't anymore!).

Keep me posted, Hopefully,

molly

!Molly, here is a great big {{{{{{{HUG}}}}}}}. I really needed to read your post at this moment :). My bp was quite high a few minute ago so I had to call my cardiologist who had me to increase one of my bp meds. For some reason, of course I know that it has to do with my hormones, my blood pressure will suddenly just spike. All of this has taken place within the last month which correlates with me not having a period in 46 days.

I've even lost almost 15 pounds and have been eliminating trigger foods from my diet in order to regulate my bp.

Did you have to take bp medication? So you are saying that since you are postmeno. your bp. is back to normal?

I agree with your 100% about taking an antidepressant if that will help us. I have tried antianxiety medications on a as needed basis, but I've been taking Wellbutrin XL 150mg for well over a year. I haven't taken Ativan, Xanax or Valium since...hmm.................maybe 2003.

Thanks again for the encouragement.

pslam 91
09-21-2005, 06:28 PM
wow hopefully, you and I are the same age, 44 right? You are so young to stop completly but good for you! My sister has skipped months but she is 49. My Mom didnt stop until 50 so I am thinking this peri crap might go on a while for me. But you never know! I understand about the BP stuff. Mine was doing so well at the drs. I went Friday. I had teribble anxiety. It was 140/100. I was on my period. I think it was the anxiety, hormones and just taking my med , maybe it hadnt taken effect quite yet. I am doing good on the paxil but I still get the internal jitters. Oh yea I forgot to say that my heart rate was 120, so they gave me an EKG. The results were that my heart is fine, just fast. That is exactly what the other dr said too. The anxiety, heart rate etc is all hormonal but try to explain that to a GP! Try not to obsess about your bp. Sometimes it is worse to take it. I have never bought a monitor for that very reason. My gp is coming to the conclusion about my anxiety. It is hormonal though and she doesnt understand that. She thinks it is psycological. Not that I dont have emotional issues. I have just lost my confidence in who I am. I use to not care to much about getting up infront of a crowd etc, but now!!! Oh yea, my heart rate at home without anxiety and hot flash is anywhere from 60-72. Internal Jitters it is about 88-90.

Hopefully
09-21-2005, 07:10 PM
Molly and Psalms you are right about not worrying about my blood pressure, but unfortunately bp issues run in my family especially when our hormones start going south. My youngest sister is recovering right now from what is called Transient Ischemic Attack (TIA) or a mini-stroke because her bp was quite high. Since her TIA I've learned of several other people that I know directly or indirectly who have had the same thing. Needless to say I'm taking the necessary precautions by changing my diet, losing weight, and monitoring my pressure.

Psalms, it sound like you also have the white coat syndrome. The last time that I went to the dr. I made sure that I took my pressure before leaving my house. Of course my pressure was fairly normal at home, but oh my goodness it was outrageously high in the doctor's office. I made a point of showing the dr. my earlier reading and he stated what I already knew...white coat syndrome! My pressure was so high :bouncing: the other day in his office that I felt faint. The room started getting dark, but I tried to calm myself down, breathe and attempt to take my mind off my blood pressure and the doctor. It was the grace of God that kept me from having a full blown panic attack and passing out.

Of course you know that I'm hoping that I'm really on the road to menopause especially since it's now day 47. I don't like the increased anxiety, major hot flashes, constant sweating, wobbly leg feeling especially first thing in the morning, and simply feeling ill. My co-worker, who is older, told me that I should want my period to start again because it's a cleansing :nono: ...hmmm.......maybe she will be one of those women who have only one hot flash, their menstruation suddenly stops without any prior warning, and then she continues on her merry way. I've been telling her about the wonders of perimenopause :rolleyes: ...but I guess it's just one of those things that you have to experience to really understand. :wave:

Hopefully
09-21-2005, 07:33 PM
Oh, Psalms please don't allow this change affect your self confidence. Time heals so many things. I look at many of those older women on television who have probably already gone through menopause yet they are still pursuing their dreams.

pslam 91
09-23-2005, 12:55 PM
Hopefully, I am sorry to hear abour your sister. I think my mom had one of those when she was in peri. I try to just monitor my stress and anxiety and stay away from situations that would increase it. My mom is 70 yrs old and is doing well. so I anticipate that for me too. She has been on BP meds since she was peri too. I DO have white coat!!!! But my bp was good that last few times inspite of that. The top number wasnt to bad 140 but the bottom??? 100??? weird! Anyway when she gave me the EKG my body went cold and clammy. I knew it was the anxiety. Then it went hot. I was just thinking about hot flashes and cold flashes. Why do the drs look at you and wonder why we have white coat. And they always go " huh?". They need to trade places and see how it feels. I told my obgyn that one time.

Hopefully
09-24-2005, 05:02 PM
Still no period. YEAH, but these darn hot flashes, sweats, panicky/nervous feeling, anxiety, and woobly legs are ridiculous. I am not able to walk very fast because of this wobbly leg feeling.

It's interesting to me that my period went away and then came these unwanted "guests" LOL. Molly, I think you were the one who wrote about having a weird head sensation like your head was being squeezed. Well I now know what you were talking about. I've noticed that I become anxious easily and then I get that weird head sensation. I'm believing that these are just symptoms that indicate that I'm almost out of the peri tunnel.

This is now day 50 without a period. Anyone else counting down and experiencing these same symptoms?

pslam 91
09-24-2005, 05:12 PM
Not me hopefully! But I understand the hotfalshes! I have had one so far today. It was more of the internal jitters with increased heart rate etc. I think those oare hotfalshes. I am going back on the estrovan(walmart brand) last night was my first one.

Hopefully
09-24-2005, 05:37 PM
Not me hopefully! But I understand the hotfalshes! I have had one so far today. It was more of the internal jitters with increased heart rate etc. I think those oare hotfalshes. I am going back on the estrovan(walmart brand) last night was my first one.

Estrovan? Did they help you before with the hot flashes or any other symptom? I might have to run over to Walmart and get some. I see the doctor on Monday, a new ob/gyn, and my DH and I are praying and believing that she will prescribe what I need to get rid of all these symptoms.

Ugh, the nervousness/anxiety and wobbly legs are...UGH! I have noticed that these symptoms have been less since I took my primrose oil, garlic and multivitamins.

I know that checking our hormone levels during perimenopause really do not serve any purpose, but I would like to know my fsh level. Last time it was 34.5 and the way that I feel lately I know that it's in the 100's which is definitely postmenopausal.

I keep reminding myself of all those women who are postmenopausal, feeling great, gooding even better, and pursuing their dreams. Lord, please let that be us.

molly123
09-24-2005, 05:53 PM
Hi Hopefully,
Sorry you're having the nervous/anxiety and wobblyl legs! I know what that's like! I felt so weak in the legs that I could barely walk - plus I was so tired all the time! Also, with the weird head thing - not a headache but like a light pressure around my head making me feel spacey and like I'm not in the physical being. It is hard to describe...anyway, I don't think it would hurt to start taking Estroven. Just remember, none of these supplements are a quick-fix. You have to taking it everyday, consistently for months and then you might notice a slight improvement if you think about it. You should also be taking magneisum and B-Complex (or at least B6)....these might help the anxiety/nervousness feeling. As with me, having my period or not having the period didn't make my symptoms going away. I went thru my ordeal at age 50 and it all came on at once....I had my FSH tested at the time and it was only like 24 or something which was normal, but about 9 months later and not having a period for 6 mos straight, it shot up to 78 or something which meant post-meno. Did you get the boo, Before the Change? She lists all the stuff to take for specific symptoms - something you might check out. The only thing that made me even start feeling the slightest bit better and it was pretty quick was the Paxil CR...

Take care and keep me posted and what the dr. says.

molly

rmc12
09-25-2005, 05:19 AM
Hi Hopefully,

Well I am at day 80 and yes am feeling the anxiety on and off and that wobbly feeling too at times. Sometimes feel fine, other times not so good!! Seems to be no rhyme or reason for it at all.

I am also getting twinges like I some times get when I ovulate. They radiate and it can be felt near my right ovary but sometimes radiate higher up . Always scares me but I know others on here have had it. I am wondering if it means my period is coming. I am also feeling that pressure feeling like it could so who knows.

I took Estroven last year, it is an over the counter herbal/vitamin supplement. It helped me it seemed for awhile but then things kind of acted up again and I decided to go off of it as with the multi I was taking, the Vitamin B complex and soy , I felt it was maybe duplicating all that. Also my Gyn said that Estroven was more for it one gets hot flashes which I have never got. So I have not taken it since earlier this year and really not consistently since last year.

Hope you feel better and less wobbly soon. Here's hoping we both do!!

Take care,

rmc

rmc12
10-02-2005, 05:19 AM
Hopefully,

Since you had started this thread about those of us that are counting down...wanted to report that at almost 3 months ...would have been 3 months on Oct. 5th...I got my period today!! This is the longest I have gone without it though so guess I am headed in the right direction!! Have felt on and off that I might get it and then this week had more of that feeling . Achiness last night in my legs which usually precedes my period and then this morning got it!! So back to counting all over again!!

How are you doing with your "countdown"?

Take care,

rmc

Hopefully
10-02-2005, 03:53 PM
Hopefully,

Since you had started this thread about those of us that are counting down...wanted to report that at almost 3 months ...would have been 3 months on Oct. 5th...I got my period today!! This is the longest I have gone without it though so guess I am headed in the right direction!! Have felt on and off that I might get it and then this week had more of that feeling . Achiness last night in my legs which usually precedes my period and then this morning got it!! So back to counting all over again!!

How are you doing with your "countdown"?

Take care,

rmc

RMC, I think I'm at day 58. From what has been posted here lateley it seems that many are going as long as a year then having one or two more periods.

How do you feel, are you still having the anxiety since you started bleeding?

Last night and this morning I tried some progesterone cream that my co-worker ordered for me from Puerto Rico (she's been using it for awhile and is still feeling well) and it seems to help with some of this anxiety. I haven't tried the full recommended dose because I was a bit hesitant seeing that the last time I tried some progesterone cream (from the healthfood store) it made me depressed and more anxious/panicky.

I'm not sure if the ingredients are just different in this progesterone cream or maybe I'm just at that point in my life where it works differently. Tomorrow I have my consultation with someone from the compounding pharmacy and I'm eager to learn more about compounded hormones as well as know their recommendation. I'm hoping that I won't need to use any estrogen, maybe I can regain that feeling of "normalcy" with only progesterone.

rmc12
10-04-2005, 01:59 PM
HI Hopefully,

Yes I have read too on this board that some women can go a year and then get a period. Also a friend of mine had that happen. Recently a friend of mine went for 8 months without it and now is getting them again.

You asked how I was feeing since I got mine after almost 3 months. I think the anxiety was about the same, maybe a little more actually as I was also feeling drained like I get when I get my period and I had a lot to do this weekend so didn't want to feel that way. I used to be able to say that when my period came, the symptoms were relieve a bit. But in not having it for 3 months , I have to say I didn't have that big a problem with any symptom. Yes, there was some anxiety but not like before. I did sometimes feel tired but not like last year when I was really going thru a bad time of it with peri. So generally I felt better not having had it I think. The anxiety I can not track as well it seems as far as when it flares.

You said you tried progesterone cream that a friend was using. A friend of mine too experienced what you did the last time you tried it and felt anxiety, etc. They say it is really hard to know how much to use. I have never tried it.
It is good you are seeing a compounding pharmacist. Will be interested in knowing what he has to say about what to take. Good luck with it.

Hope you are doing well.

Take care,

rmc

Hopefully
10-04-2005, 05:29 PM
Hello RMC, my server was down yesterday and I surely missed coming to this site for encouragement. Especially since I felt UGH yesterday.

I read at another site today about a woman who had a hysterectomy, read a popular book about using progesterone cream, tried and over the counter brand and felt well for about 6-8 months. Then it stopped working, she began having many meno. symptoms and found relief by switching to compounding hormones. I have a good friend with a similar testimony. She felt wonderful after her hysterectomy for many months then the anxiety, depression, panic attacks and other symptoms materialized. Why aren't doctor's noticing this pattern and trying to help us? My friend is now taking Klonopin a couple days a week and doing wonderful again.

I spoke with the representative from the compounding pharmacy yesterday and hopefully I should have my hormones tomorrow.

BTW I think this is now day 61!!!!!!! The anxiety is still hanging around, but this too shall pass.

ainfante
10-04-2005, 11:31 PM
It's been 45 days since my last period :bouncing: !!!!!!! I'm hoping that I'm on the road to menopause, especially since my last fsh was 34.5.

The only thing is that I feel like poop. I'll have moments (hours or sometime and entire day) where I feel wonderful, then there are those other days...I've been posting lately about my blood pressure because I'm believing God that my bp will be regulated. Ever since I stopped taking bcp I've been having moments of feeling anxious, wobbly legs, nervous, multiple hot flashes within in a 30 minute period (I rarely had hot flashes when I took bcp), incontinence, multiple trips to the restroom at night, night & day sweats and of course the elevated blood pressure.

I'm on 2 different bp medications, both low dose, but I think that I either need to adjust the dosage or try a different brand. I'm going to the cardiologist in about 30 minutes. Oops, I'm totally off the topic :nono:.

Anyone else counting down?

I would think that after taking bcp's, you would feel all the menopause symptoms since the bcp's is what helped control them. I hope everything is alright at the the cardiologist.

Hopefully
10-05-2005, 05:45 PM
I would think that after taking bcp's, you would feel all the menopause symptoms since the bcp's is what helped control them. I hope everything is alright at the the cardiologist.

After stopping the bcp, reluctantly, I felt good for about 2 weeks. I had some symptoms, but overall I felt almost "normal" again. Then my bp began creeping upward, which I still think is related to lack of hormones, and soon to be followed by the anxiety, woobly legs, major hot flashes and sweating night and day. My blood pressure is now doing wonderful with medication, changing my diet (once again, but this time to no/low salt), and getting back to exercising.

When my pressure went up my dr. told me not to exercise until it was under control...well that was about 3 weeks ago. I've been able to exercise two days this week and today I felt wonderful!!! I did not wake up with the anxiety and wobbly legs. I also resumed wearing the CombiPatch until my compounded hormones arrive.

Hopefully
10-09-2005, 07:26 PM
I have gone 67 days without bleeding and now after 3 days of using compounded hormones (estrogen, progesterone and one day of testosterone) I'm now spotting. I have left a message for the compounded pharmacy consultant.

I felt horrible before the compounded hormones and worst the last 3 days on the hormones, but I'm still going to give it a good try. My main symptoms are still:

1. Anxiety - nervous, jumpy feeling, internal shaky feeling, woobly leg feeling
2. Head pressure - like someone is squeezing my head
3. Off balanced - feel like I'm leaning to the right when I'm walking or sitting upright

I've not taken anything today. I need some direction and relief from these symptoms. Any ideas, suggestions, or just words of encouragement?





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