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kierrasmommy
10-01-2005, 01:45 AM
Well, we have been through the TTC boards, the pregnancy boards and now we are moving on to the next milestone...the infant boards!!! :bouncing: These boards have been a wonderful place to vent, cry, celebrate, laugh, and bond with each other in our journeys through pregnancy and birth. Not only have the August Mommies been keeping together but we have had many visits from other Mommies as well, we hope to continue discussing our babies progress, milestones, setbacks, as well as questions and advice in this thread. The August Mommies/August Babies thread will not only allow us to continue to compare our progress, but prepare others for whats to come as well. Although we may be the August Mommies, we welcome everyone in our thread.

That being said, I will start out our thread with an update on Kaden.
Kaden is 6 weeks old today. :D He is growing so quickly that I sometimes get sad because it feels like it is going so quickly that I am not having enough time to enjoy it completely. He smiled at me for the first time yesturday...first voluntary smile I should say, because he has smiled alot up until now, mostly in his sleep, but yesturday he actually smiled at me, I almost melted it was so cute. I have my 6 week checkup next Thursday, I think I may ask about post partum...I don't think I have full force post partum, but I do have instances where I feel sad...like when I see how quickly Kaden is growing. And I have a lower patience threshold than I normally do, mostly because I think sometimes Kierra (our 3 year old) is still testing her boundaries...but it's when I have that low patience threshold that I feel sad again because I feel like if only I had more patience I'd be a better Mom...not that I am mean or anything to Kierra, but I want to a fun Mom and I hate always having to say don't do this or don't do that or Kierra leave that alone etc...I don't have alot of patience with my DH right now either. I feel like a single parent because I do everything, he works and comes home or goes out for "a beer with the boys", Kaden is 6 weeks old today and my DH has not changed one diaper. I sometimes feel like my husbands social life is more imortant than his family life and I hate that because I don't want a part time husband or father for our children. My sister thinks I am moody, but she see's that I'm not happy with DH right now, is it just me or is this normal? Does it sound like PP? Other than that I am wondering about Kaden's eyes...he sometimes still goes cross eyed for a few minutes...I know it is normal until their eye muscles gain strength and according to my books it could take up to 6 months...he has gotten better but he still will go cross eyed...anyone elses babies still doing that? I remember Kierra did it but don't recall how long it lasted for. He has his 6 week check up Tuesday so I will ask there too, but wanted to compare with all of you.
Well, I should go. Take care and talk to you all soon.

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S&J
10-01-2005, 01:56 PM
HI Kierrasmommy,
Thanks for starting this board!
Well Troy will be 10weeks on mon. He's doing awesome! He's 14lbs and 23 inches now..(he was 7lbs 4oz..20inches at birth) He's feeding every4 hours which is a blessing! He's finally starting to smile..i was getting worried because i heard other babies were starting to smile earlier..but as time passed his big day came and we too melted!! :)
I thought i was getting bad baby blues because i was crying but as Troy started to sleep longer through the night i started to feel better. I found that i was sad/mad more at night than the day. My dh helps a lot..he gets up at night and changes Troy's diaper before i feed and would sit with me until troy was done. At times i was moody with him but realized that i shouldn't be!
I feel bad for you as your dh doesn't seem to want to really help....have you talked to him about this? I hope he comes to realize that you're working hard and need his help and company. I know that guy's "need" to have some buddy time but they should maybe try and lessen this time with a newborn at home and a "sad" mommy. I'm not sure if i really helped you with this but i thought i'd comment :(
I was also worried about Troy's crossed eyes but then one day he wasn't cross eyed..this about 2 weeks ago..Maybe Kaden will be the same!!
I've also started to give Troy a bottle (breastmilk) once a day..well actually today will be the 2nd day...he took it quite well yesterday and i hope he does the same today.
This kind of makes me sad because this means he's starting to grow up :( But i wanted to get him started on the bottle so when the time comes to have one he'll have no problem later.
He also had his 2mos shots a few days ago..and i almost cried because he was in so much pain! But he calmed down a few minutes later and I think i was still frazzled a few hours later..it's hard seeing your baby cry like that! But he's doing fine...(except that night i was up every few hours to make sure he was ok, which he was and i just lost sleep over nothing!)
Well..i hope other mommies post as well!
talk to you soon!
S :)

Laur77
10-01-2005, 05:06 PM
Hi
I didn't get to know all you August moms on the other boards as I was supposed to be a July mommy. But I guess babies don't pay attention to these things! My little guy is 2 months tomorrow. He is so big! He is going to the doctor soon for his shots so I am interested to see how much he has grown. He is wearing six month clothing, and some of them fit pretty snug!
I agree it is already going too fast. Right now he loves and needs me so much, and I don't want to lose that! But at the same time it is so cool to see him developing every day and I am so excited to see all the firsts to come.
My favourite part of the day is the morning when I go to his crib and say "Good morning Logan", and he'll turn to me and get this huge smile and kick his legs and wave his arms like crazy! I love it!

S&J
10-01-2005, 06:44 PM
I was suppose to be an August mommy but ended up being a July mommy! :D
I can't wait until Troy smiles at me in the mornings!
S :)

kierrasmommy
10-01-2005, 10:13 PM
Hi Ladies,
Good to talk to you both again. I'm glad that Troys eyes straightened out, I am pretty sure Kaden's will too because he seems to be less and less cross eyed as time goes on...I was more worried early on because I remember when Kierra's(our first child) eyes were crossed and we'd cover her eyes she'd refocus correctly, but Kaden didn't do that and sometimes still doesn't but I am happy that he seems to be getting stronger eye control now. My husbands eyes never did straighten out and when he was 3 he had surgery on the one eye to fix it, so I think we are even more focused on Kadens eyes than we normally would be because of that. Kaden doesn't smile often yet but he does smile at least once a day on purpose...he still smiles in his sleep.
The husband issues go a bit deeper and he's never in the mood to discuss things so I have been emailing him so I know he knows what I am feeling...I know sad that we have to resort to email, but that seems to be the only way I can get my points across. He sometimes gets better and then things go back to the same old story. My sister is going to talk with him this week because I can't seem to get through to him and we are wondering if he thinks it's all just me...but maybe if my sister tells him that he is being an idiot maybe he'll open his eyes. His social life includes Walmac Billiards league once a week, hockey league once a week and "going for a beer" which is often a few hours at least once a week. So combined with him working full time it just seems like he is gone more than he is home. Well, I should go, keep in touch ladies. Oh! have your babies rolled over yet? And if yes, how old were they?

S&J
10-02-2005, 01:56 PM
Kierrasmommy,
Well, at least he knows how you're feeling...even if it is through email. I think i would have been doing the same thing if it was me. He does seem like a busy guy..especially with him working full time...but he still needs to come home to his family. I hope your sister can try and help and I hope things start to get better soon.

Troy hasn't started to roll over yet..he's not even close!! I wonder if we should be working on that? Does Kaden sleep through the night? Troy doesn't..he goes to sleep at about 10pm and then he likes to get up at 1:30-2am (this is about an hour and a half before it's time to eat) so i give him his pacifier..he falls asleep till about 3am and eats..and then is wide awake at 6:30am-7am. I guess this is better than we he was first born..he was eating every 2 hours and lasting for an hour!

Also..will you be starting Kaden on formula? If so..when would you start? Would it be ok to breastfeed through the day and give him a bottle once? and maybe alternating days?(breastmilk one afternoon and then formula the next?) Also..do you think formula makes babies more gassy? Anyone can answer this question too if you're doing something like this :)

Laur77,
Troy is also in 6mos clothes...he's starting to wear a few 6-9mos too...they're a little big but they're not as snug as some of the 6 mos! :)
It's amazing what the sizing of baby clothes are!

Well talk to you ladies soon! It's feeding time!
S :D

kierrasmommy
10-02-2005, 06:16 PM
S&J,
No Kaden is still on his birth feeding schedule...he eats every 3 hours...there has been 2 or 3 times he lasts 4 hours but that's during the day and not at night. But I'm not complaining...he is really good at going right back to sleep, he never stays up and both kids aren't early risers so I at least get to sleep in a bit. Do you change diapers or turn on lights at night? I have found if I turn on lights or change his diaper he is harder to get back to sleep...so I only change his diaper if he is leaking or poopy, otherwise he gets a late night diaper change before I go to bed usually between midnight and 1am and then not again until morning...I make sure to put lots of diaper cream and we use very absorbant diapers so it hasn't been a problem. We have a hall night light and I changed the bulb in our bedside lamp to a dim blue bulb so if I need light I turn that on because it is very dim, otherwise I leave all the lights off. I just get him feed him, burp him and once he falls asleep again...which he tends to do during his feeding, I put him back to bed and go to sleep. He is in 3/6 month clothes and he's 6 weeks old now, but there is a few things that are 0-6 months that he's in and one diaper shirt that actually says 12 months....when he got weighed at 4 weeks he was 12lbs 2oz, I'll find out tuesday what he's at now but I think he may be starting to slow down a bit now. I am still breastfeeding, I do know a few of my friends had problems with formula when their babies were smaller...Kierra was 9 months old when I introduced it to her and I had to experiment 3 times before I found one she digested OK. Up until then if I wanted to bottle feed her I'd pump and freeze, I eventually had a good size storage supply of milk. They say breastmilk is easiest to digest, but I know they've come out with a few new formula's since I was at that stage so they may be better now...ask your pediatrician what s/he recommends. If it were me I'd start by mixing a portion of breastmilk with the formula and gradually increasing the formula portion...this may be easier of a transition. Are you going to go the formula alone or are you just planning on once in a while? For the rolling over, I don't know if we can really practise that skill, but I think I am going to pull out our floor jungle mat and get him on some regular tummy time, I didn't do it early enough with Kierra and she hated being on her tummy, so she ended up being a late crawler.
Well, I should go my sister is here trying to make my husband go "car shopping" with her so she can have their discussion...I'll chat with you guys later.

Laur77
10-03-2005, 12:41 PM
S&J
We have supplemented with formula almost since day 1. For the first few weeks he was just eating constantly, and I needed a break (for sanity, and soreness!). We were lucky, we never had any problems with nipple confusion. DS is such a big eater, that as long as it has food in it, he'll take it, lol!! We don't give him formula every day, just sometimes in the evening so I can eat supper, hubby will give him a bottle. Or if I have an appointment, he goes to my mom, and she'll give him a bottle. We haven't had any problem with gas, etc. We started with the Enfamil, then realized the Presidents Choice (in Canada, don't know if you have that??) has the EXACT same ingredients, and costs less than half the price. We use the powder, but I am thinking that for the little we use it, it won't cost us that much more for the ready-made. Less waste too as you can only use the powder for one month after opening. I have a can that is not even half gone and will need to throw it out soon (could have bought a smaller can too, still getting used to all this!). By the way, supplementing has not affected my milk supply.
I know some people who feel guilty giving supplementary formula, but I don't because I know he is getting tons of nutrients in the breast milk he gets 95% of the time. A little formula won't affect this, and I have found it a sanity saver! I have tried to pump to supplement when needed, but I find he eats so much, that I rarely have enough milk (or time) to pump. Hope this helps!

kierrasmommy
10-04-2005, 01:41 PM
I have another question for those of you using formula....did you notice if baby seemed to last longer between feeds when you switched...I am wondering because I know they say that breastmilk is very easy for them to digest so I wonder if they need to eat more often if they are just breastmilk babies and if their formula fed buddies last longer between?

Sarahj
10-05-2005, 06:02 PM
Hi All...Glad to see the new thread in the infant board. I barely have time to get online any more. Tala is still struggling with digestive issues and doesn't sleep well. She gets up two or three times at night still. She isn't always hungry when she wakes up though. We are going 3-4 hours between feedings usually. She has been on Enfamil ProSobee for all but 2 weeks of her life. She was projectile vomitting the milk based stuff up. She also didn't like my breastmilk either. Anyone have recommendations on how to get her to sleep better. Gas and reflux seems to be waking her alot. She sleeps best on her stomach laying on my chest but I do not want to get that started long term.

I went back to work part time (30 hours a week) so she is now in daycare. We are finally getting over her thrush but now think she may be teething early. Our daycare provider noticed it yesterday so I am going to make an appointment with the doctor. She is 2 months on Sat so I think it's a tad early for it but who knows. She is growing but is still very small. She is starting to fit into 0-3 months stuff instead of preemie and some of it is actually too big. It seems to depend on the brand. She has been rolling from her side to her back and side to her stomach for several weeks. I did find her on her stomach once after I put her on her back but I didn't see her actually turn. She also moves slowly across her play mat when on her tummy. Kinda like a crawl only with her legs flat. She is either a really happy baby (smiling, cooing, and giggling) or pissed and screaming. No happy medium with her I guess :-)

Kierrasmommy- I understand how you feel about your husband and his being gone alot. My boyfriend is the same way. He stays home until the older kids are in bed (usually at 8 pm) then takes off to his friends house, or somewhere. On the weekends we do not have his older 2 kids, I like to try to get a sitter for Tala and spend time alone but he almost always makes plans with his friends. He tries to get me to tag along with he and his friends and doesn't realize why I am not interested. I do not mind doing that once in a while but I feel like we need to spend alone time together too. He and I were only dating for 5 months when I got pregnant so our relationship wasn't fully formed before we became parents. We live together and sometimes I feel like the fact that we sleep next to each other is all the "alone" time he needs. I have talked to him about it but it is hard for him to understand. We both love each other, we just don't have the same needs when it comes to spending time together. Usually when I make a big deal about it, he takes time to spend it with me but I get frustrated that I have to go to that much to see him. I hope you are able to get your feeling across to your husband because it is already frustrating dealing with 2 kids. Add a less-than-attentive husband and I am sure your frustration level is much higher.

It sounds like everyones babies are doing well. I'll check in when I can.

Sarah

kierrasmommy
10-06-2005, 01:56 AM
Sarah,
Have you tried elevating the head of her mattress...they have wedges now that you can purchase that go on top of the mattress under the sheet of course that elevates them, a friend of mine gave me hers as her son never slept in his crib until he was about 7 months old and by then it was useless to her but I found it helpful because Kaden was a bit musousy the first week or so and twice even choked on his mucous, I found the wedge helped him as well as my peace of mind. I'm not sure where you are from but they have those wedges in the Sears catalogue here in Canada in the baby section. Otherwise talk to your pediatrician because I mentioned how Kaden has been cranky the last couple days when feeding and has always been spitting up, he said if it continued it could be reflux as well and he could perscribe something for it if it was still bothersome at his next appointment. I think my friends little girl had something perscribed when she was a baby 4 years ago and it worked wonders...before that the specialist had mentioned if the perscription didn't work that they could do a surgery to correct the reflux.
Well, Kaden had his pediatrician appointment yesturday and I guess he is very strong for his age...the pediatricain held him up horizontally so he looked like he was swimming and he actually held his arms head and legs all stiff, the Dr said they usually don't do that until 3-4 months. He now weighs 13lbs 1oz now...I think he is starting to slow down in his growing now, but he is still a little porker...I literally have to separate his little rolls on his thighs when I change him to make sure I don't miss wiping anywhere. My Mom thinks because he has such big hands that he is going to take after my Dad's side of the family...everyone was big, even my Grandma had big hands...to give you an idea of what I mean..my Dad's ring that fits his ring finger, is actually too big for my big toe! Kaden is starting to try to coo and "talk" to us now and smiles every day...not all the time but when he is recently fed and is happy. He still hates car rides though...he is OK if he is sleeping but if he isn't he screams non-stop until we either get where we are going and take him out or until we stop the vehicle and squirt a bit of his vitamin D drops in his mouth to trick him into sucking his pacifier longer. I don't know why he hates it so much, Kierra loved car rides as long as we were driving, she'd cry if we stopped at red lights.
My sister talked with my husband so hopefully he'll get it. I think it is more frustrating that he goes out as much as he does, than it is that he doesn't help out alot with Kaden. At least I know I am changing Kaden's bum the way I like it to be and he won't leak out of the sides or top because DH changed him or get a diaper rash because DH didn't put enough cream on or whatnot. I guess I don't mind being the major caregiver, I just wish DH was home more just to be there for me and to play or spend time with the kids. Once in awhile I need a break but for the most part I like doing things my way so him not doing much in that aspect doesn't bother me...him going out and drinking or doing his own thing (golf, billiards, hockey, poker etc) are more bothersome. The other day he said he needed to go out for a beer because he had a "Bad day"at work...a BAD DAY? what do I get when I have a bad day with half the amount of sleep he had the night before, a tempermental 6 week old who doesn't want to be out of my arms long enough for me to shower or even eat, a house full of chores waiting to be done...but can't be done while I hold our 6 week old, and a 3 year old who is testing her limits? My days aren't that bad but sometimes I feel like if I don't make excuses...why should he. Well, I should go. Kierra is having a sleepover at her Auntie's house and Kaden is sleeping so I am going to get a couple things done, slip into some nice cozy PJ's and watch some TV. I have my 6 week checkup tomorrow so I may be back tomorrow to post. Take care everyone.

S&J
10-08-2005, 10:53 AM
Thanks for the formula advice :) I was just wondering how much formula i should mix with my milk? Say i have 2oz of milk how much formula should i mix? Troy eats at least 3oz of milk and sometimes a little bit more from me after. And, if i'm going somewhere and need to give him a bottle instead...should I thaw out the milk and mix the formula in at home or wait until i'm wherever i am and mix it there?
I'm also in Canada and am going to try enfamil and the presidents choice. It's a test and go kinda thing i see!

Sarah - I'm glad to hear that tala is growing. And rolling! Troy isn't even close to rolling!

Keirrasmommy - good to see that Kaden is a strong boy! I'm going to look for that wedge from Sears..as the nurse told me to put some books under the one side of the crib to elevate it but the wedge sounds better! Troy loves his car rides i guess..as he falls asleep everytime! I do the same with the Vit d at night when he's a bit fussy before bedtime.....i give him the Vit D and then the "soother" as we like to call it right after..it works like a charm:) It's good to see you "vent" about your hubby..sometimes that feels better eh? I hope he starts to help a litte more and you can have your rest. I know what you mean about doing things the "right" way! My dh is good about it but my mom still needs some reminding!! :)

Laur - how is logan doing?

Good to see everyone is doing ok! talk to you all soon!
S :)

Spanish
10-08-2005, 11:38 AM
Hello All! I was supposed to be a July Mum but DD was born on 4 August. She's now 9 weeks old and growing fast (5.2kg now). She wears 0 - 3 months clothes mainly but the sizes vary so much don't they? Some of the 'newborn' stuff is still too big for her and yet she's grown out of some of the 0-3's!

I'm breastfeeding exclusively and she feeds anywhere between two hours and five hours during the day. Although occasionally we'll have a little blip, like last night when I fed her three times in four hours! She's starting to sleep longer at night and last night went from a feed at 10pm through to 6am for the next feed, which is the best we'v had so far. Mind you she was chuntering from 3.30 until 6am (you know waking up having a little cry, going back to sleep, waking up having a little wriggle about, going back to sleep etc) so I was only managing to doze myself for the last couple of hours.

She's normally a pretty happy baby, but currently she's being horribly grizzly in the evenings but I guess I just need to experiment to see what will soothe her and settle her down. She's also had a couple of grizzly days recently - I don't know what's wrong. We visited my parents last weekend and my Dad came down with flu so perhaps she's feeling a bit poorly. Apart from that I don't know - how do you know if they are teething early?

DD hasn't rolled over yet. I've seen her rocking her shoulders across but she hasn't mastered moving her hips over yet. She's just starting to bat at toys and try to reach for them, but she seems to get upset that she can't make her hands go where she wants them to...she stares at the toy and her breathing is really fast and she's waving her arms around but can't quite make them go in the right place. LOL.

Spanish

Laur77
10-08-2005, 06:54 PM
kierrasmommy; my sister formula feeds, and I mostly breast-feed. Our little ones are 6 days apart. They seem to eat just about as often. The only difference is that her daughter will sleep right through the night after formula. My guy is up once or twice. However, I know a lot of people say formula fed babies go longer.

S&J; Logan is doing great. I raked a big pile of leaves today and took some pictures of him in it. Very cute. He pretty much slept through it! I don't know what to tell you about the formula question as I don't mix with milk. FYI, I looked for President's Choice pre-mixed formula, but doesn't look like they make it (or the store just didn't have it). They also didn't have small cans of formula, onlt the huge one! But it is still a lot cheaper than some of the smaller cans of brand-name stuff. Just seems like such a lot of waste as I will never use it all in a month.

Spanish; Logan has not rolled over yet either. He hates tummy time though, so I hope he gets determined enough to flip over!

kierrasmommy
10-08-2005, 09:58 PM
S&J I'm not sure exactly about when is best to mix it, I always mixed it when I needed it, but I can't see why you couldn't mix it earlier, maybe call Healthlink or the pediatrician and ask them...for the portions I guess it is all a matter of how you want to approach it, if you want to wean, &/or how much you have pumped and how much you need to feed. If you are weaning off breastmilk I'd start at more breastmilk to formula ratio maybe 3 parts breastmilk to 1 part formula, then if baby digests it well you gradually change the portions increasing the formula more over time...I gave a couple days before changing portions (2 parts BM to 2 parts F, then 1 part BM to 3 parts F) that's just how I did it when I weaned Kierra off breastmilk. But I'm sure there's no set way, some people just give the straight formula and have no problems at all, while others find that doing that irritates baby's digestion. Check the Sears Catalogue for the wedge...I'll find my catalogue and tell you which one and what page it is if you don't find it by the time I come post again. Yeah, it does feel better to vent, I don't normally discuss stuff like that with friends or family so being able to here helps.
Spanish, I was going to ask everyone when babies starting sleeping longer so you beat me to it, I am just a couple weeks behind you and am looking forward to longer rests. Does DD still sleep in your room? I know I had to move DS to his room because he was such a noisy sleeper, which has helped but I still hear him so don't sleep very deeply.
Laur, Thanks for the sleeping info, having them that close together really helps to compare...did you guys plan to have babies that close together?
Well, gotta go, DH is in the family time mode, maybe that last discussion helped...so we are going to the R.V show, yesturday he took DD swimming and Monday we are all going to see the Wallace and Gromit movie...hopefully this trend continues....talk to you all soon, take care.

S&J
10-08-2005, 11:16 PM
Kierrasmommy...i was only planing on giving him a bottle once in awhile..when dh and i want to go to a movie or something. I was wanting to mix formula with breastmilk to increase the ounces..as i'm only pumping 1-2.5 oz a day..and Troy eats almost 4oz. I totally forgot about Healthlink!! I called a few times in the beginning but never thought to call about this :) that's a great idea! Just another quick question...would I replace the water that's needed to mix the formula with breastmilk? Say i have the 2 oz of frozen milk..would i then add one scoop of the formula and that would make 3 oz right? This is all sooooo confusing! haha:)
I haven't had a chance to look at the Sears catalogue yet..but i'd love to get the page number!!
thanks !

Laur--i did the same thing today!!!! Troy looked soooo cute in the leaves. I had a little hat on and he was adorable!!! I didn't see any PC premixed formula either.

Spanish---i hope dd is feeling better!

Well gotta go
DH rented a scary movie and we're going to watch it right now!! ahhhhh :)
talkto you all soon!
S :)

Sarahj
10-09-2005, 01:23 AM
Hello all..it is finally the end of my first week back to work. It was hard leaving her but is necessary. I just can't afford to stay home any longer.

Spanish-I know exactly what you mean about the baby clothes sizes. Tala has grown out of some of her 0-3 stuff too..but she also still fits into some of the preemie clothes we both after she was born. She is fitting nicely into 0-3 sleepers, which is what we usually put her in. It is starting to get cold here so I had to buy alot of new stuff and pack away her summer clothes. You also asked about teething...I have been told that if they turn away the bottle or breast after a few seconds and they are drooling alot that is an early sign of teething. Tala has discovered her hands and sucks on them constantly. She won't take a pacifier but will suck like crazy on her hands. She also started drooling a lot lately. Just in the last week or so. When we gave her the bottle she would go for it right away then after a few sucks, she would turn away and cry.

Kierrasmommy-we have started putting Tala in her swing to sleep at night. She actually almost sleeps through the night in it. Of course, we are going through the batteries like crazy! We will have to start moving her to her crib eventually just so she doesn't get too used to the swing. When we do, I will definitely be needed the wedge thing. She is already starting to get a little too used to the swing so that may have to be soon. Today we went shopping and we just couldn't get her to sleep until we got home and put her in her swing.

S&J-I think Tala is rolling early because of her size. She is still very small...about 10 lbs we think (haven't had her weighed...got on the scale without her then with her for an estimate). By the way, which enfamil were you going to try Troy on? Tala has always been on Enfamil..and we have tried several types.

Well, I'm going to get Tala up to "top off"...Glad to see everyone is doing well.

Kiedy
10-09-2005, 02:07 AM
Sarahj,

I just did the same thing w/ my DS, for over 2mo he slept in his car seat and I just transfered him into his crib this week, worrying that he was too used to it (he would never lie flat on his back and always woke up if I tried putting him in his crib). I also worried about the constant position of his head. Luckly he was ok w/ falling asleep. The only problem for about 6 days was that he would wake up after 2 hours, rather than the 5-6hrs I started getting used to. Last night was the first nigth he slept 4hrs. Hopefully it will continue getting better. Hopefully it will work well for you too.

S&J
10-09-2005, 11:33 AM
SarahJ
We ended up getting the powdered enfamil. We just wanted to try that first and if he takes it ok we may switch to presidents choice. I'm kind of scared to try formula because of gas that ds may have...but if that's going to happen we just deal with it! :)
HOw old is Tala again? When do baby's usually start to roll over? I guess it's different for many right? troy will be 11weeks soon and i'm wondering if i should be concerned?
well we're off to have some turkey at my relatives!
have a super day everyone!
S :)

Sarahj
10-10-2005, 03:44 PM
S&J-Tala is 8 weeks old. She seems to be ahead on alot of her developmental things though. I wouldn't worry too much about Troy not rolling over at 11 weeks. Boys do develop alittle slower than girls. There is a little boy at my daycare that is 4 months and he hasn't rolled yet. It is true that every baby is different. Also, if the formula gives him gas, try gas drops. I have found that the name brands do make a difference of them. We tried a few off brands and they didn't seem to work as well. It may be because of the taste too..Tala will spit it out if she doesn't like it. We use "Little Tummies Gas Drops". We also have her on ProSobee because she doesn't digest milk well. It gives her gas but I figure we can handle gas more than the projectile vommiting she did on the milk based stuff.

Kiedy-Tala will lay flat on her back to sleep but it doesn't take long for her to wake. She inherited her mommies sinus trouble. She is very congested most of the time. We give her Saline Drops often which helps too. The swing and car seat seem to be the best for her. She fell asleep last night in the car seat on the way home from my grandparents. Rather than moving her I left her there and she didn't wake up for 7 hours! I figured she wouldn't sleep that night but she ate and went back to sleep for another 4 hours in the swing.

Sarahj

kierrasmommy
10-10-2005, 11:36 PM
S&J
Yeah, Healthlink is great, I have used it quite a bit between Kierra and Kaden. I looked at my catalogues and I can't find that wedge now...!?!...I may just be blind, so I'll look again tomorrow, or it may have been in one of the older catalogues that expired...I'll try and find it for you though and get back to you. For the formula, I used breastmilk with the powder but after mixing it, it isn't much more than the liquid amount, (if I remember right) If you have 2oz of breastmilk and mix one scoop of powder it may come out to just about 2 1/2 oz but I can't remember really so you'll have to experiment...can you do me a favor? Let me know when you figure it out to refresh my memory. :) Eventually you will be able to pump more...I remember the first time I pumped I would be surprised if I got 2 tablespoons out! A couple months later I was able to get a few ounces out each pump. Then a few months later I went out with the girls for a spa, dinner and movie day, when I got home I was so full I pumped about 9 oz, and probably could have pumped more. Your fall leaves pics sound adorable, I did that with Kierra a couple years ago and they were so cute, but DH bought a new lawnmower this summer and it mulches leaves so I have no leaves to take pictures in...I may go over to a friends place and borrow her yard full of leaves. LOL. Tomorrow Canadian Baby Photograhers is coming over to take our "complimentry photo", their way of suckering you in to buying all the pics that come out way too cute to resist. They do Anne Geddes type pics as well as the regular photo's, but the nice thing is they come to you, they bring all the equipment and set up in your living room, and once the pics are processed they come show them to you so you never have to leave the comfort of your own home...but you pay the price for it in the pics...LOL...they are very nice pics though, high quality and the poses they do are unreal. They make it look like the baby is sitting up on his/her own, and the props they use and the quality, it is just all part of the reason you get suckered in to buying...I almost shouldn't have agreed to the session but I want to see how they turn out and I feel bad because we did do it for Kierra and I don't want him to feel left out because he didn't get any as well.
Sarah, DS is just starting to get used to his swing, he actually slept in it for 3 hours the other day but for the most part he is done after about 1/2 hour if I am lucky, he is one smart cookie, he likes to be held. How was your week back at work. I know how hard it is...I had a hard time going back after Kierra, and even though I have a long way to go I am dreading doing it again. DS is congested at night too, I thought he had caught a sinus cold when he was 3 1/2 weeks old, but he is still congested at night and at his last pediatrician appointment I asked the Dr and he said it's just because babies nasal passages are so tiny that any secretions and/or milk that sometimes makes it's way back up makes it sound like they are very congested. He said the saline drops are the best thing, and over time it will gradually go away.
Well, we just celebrated our first holiday with Kaden. Thanksgiving (Happy Thanksgiving fellow Canadians) we actually had the big dinner Sunday because my sister had to work today. Today DH, DS, DD and I all went to the Wallace and Gromit movie. I was surprised that there were as many people there as there were considering it was a holiday...they should have been making dinner, or celbrating at relatives homes. Kaden was good, he slept through half the movie and then when he woke up I held him and he started at the step lights and the dim wall lights for a bit, then he had a little snack (nice thing about dark movie theatres...didn't have to leave to feed him :rolleyes: ) and he fell asleep again. Kierra was good too, but when we left she said she didn't like the movie, she said it was scary, but she didn't cry or anything...I think the were-rabbit scared her...or the fact that the little rabbits were scared of the were-rabbit. K, I've consumed enough of your time for today. Geez...I have to start coming on here more so I can make lots of shorter posts and no more long ones like this. :nono:

kierrasmommy
10-11-2005, 05:22 PM
I found it! I searched all my Sears catalogues and even called the 1-800# and had them search theirs and neither one of us could find the mattress wedge, so I called my friend who had bought the one I have and asked her, and turns out it was in the Toys'R Us catalogue! It's in the "Everything For Baby 2005" catalogue on page 31 and it's letter B. Hope that helps you, if you don't have the catalogue it is on their site and it's called a "Crib Wedge" by Jolly Jumper. Gotta go Kaden just woke up.
Talk to you later.

S&J
10-11-2005, 08:44 PM
Kierrasmommy,
Thanks..i have that catalogue somewhere! I just have to search for it :)
Canadian baby photographers have "called" once but haven't called back to schedule a time..my cousins have had their pics done by them too and it's a whole lotta money! I think we're going to stick with Sears!

I've been doing "tummy" time with Troy. He's finally starting to lift his head and hold it there for like 5 secs! and then after that he cries up a storm.
He's not even close to rolling over..he just lays on his back and looks around or when he's excited he'll flail his arms and legs around! I think he's going through a growth spurt because he was up twice last night to eat...he'll usually go about 4-5 hours but last night he wanted to eat at 1am & then 4am and then he ate at 8am and then 11am..and he was sooo tired this morning..he never "zonks" out after his 11am feed..he usually stays awake for an hour and then has his nap....so i'm just assuming he's having a growth spurt.

I also tried the formula..i didn't mix it with my breastmilk like i wanted..but he took the bottle and formula with no problem. He didn't even get gassy like I thought he would!

Well i better get going!
talk to you all soon!
S

Laur77
10-12-2005, 11:28 AM
Hey guys!
What is Healthlink? I have never heard of it. Is it for all of Canada? If so, can you give me the number.
Logan had his first shots yesterday. Don't know who was more traumatized. It was heart-breaking to hear him scream. Afterward it wasn't too bad though; he was very fussy for the rest of the day, but otherwise okay.
S&J; that's so funny that we did the same picture the same day! Glad the bottle went okay for you.

Spanish
10-12-2005, 04:54 PM
Hi All

I don't want to speak too soon but, based on the last three evenings, we seem to be settling down into a routine. I'm feeding DD about 6pm then bath and massage and a cuddle, final feed at 8pm and she's been asleep by 8.30 - 9pm. On Monday night she then slept all the way through to 7.30am!!!!! Last night wasn't quite so good but she still went right through to 5am! I really, really hope that this continues.... fat chance I know. Someone asked whether she sleeps in with us (sorry I can't remember who) well sometimes she sleeps in our room and sometimes in the nursery. I sleep soo much better if she's in the nursery but then I feel guilty because everyone says baby should be in with you for six months. The thing is that I think she sleeps better in the nursery because we don't disturb her when we go to bed or if we are noisy in our sleep.

I've just started trying her with 'baby massage' and she seems to really love it. I've only been to one class so far so I can only do a bit but she was grizzly tonight and cried when I took her out of the bath. So I laid her on the towel and massaged her legs and tummy and she calmed right down and was gurgling and babbling happily all the time. She then stayed really calm and happy whilst I dressed her and got her ready for bed. I also really enjoyed it, it was nice 'bonding' time. I'd definitely recommend it.

Hope you and your little ones are all well.

Spanish

Laur77
10-12-2005, 06:18 PM
Spanish, glad to hear you are getting some sleep. I don't want to jinx it either, but my DS has been having some really long stretches at night too! I wake up at 7:00, and try to remember what time I was up during the night. Then I realize, hey, I wasn't! Don't feel guilty about having your baby in the nursery. I have my son in our room more for MY benefit than his. I know if he was in his own room, I'd be back and forth several times to check on him. I like that I can just look over at him and know he is okay :)

kierrasmommy
10-13-2005, 01:14 AM
Geez you guys are making me jealous...Kaden slept for 4 1/2 hours last night and I was celebrating that. It's a start though. I went to the library to try and get the book, Happiest Baby On The Block that I've heard people recommend on here, but it was out so they are bringing another one in for me, should be here in a couple days. I want to try and see if there's anything in there that will help Kaden learn to fall asleep in his crib and not on Mommy. The night before last was a pretty rough night, he wouldn't sleep in his crib so he ended up sleeping on me most of the night, but lastnight was much better. Have any of you read the book?
Laur, HealthLink is Canadian as far as I know. It's a 24 hour health line that you can call and a Registered nurse will help answer your questions. There should be a page or section in the front of your phone book explaining it, with your local # to access it, otherwise the toll free # is 1-866-408-5465. I have used it alot. I took the fall leaves pictures today with the kids, I wish I would have done it a week or 2 ago though when the leaves were orange and red still, today they were mostly yellow and brown, but the kids were dressed colorfully so hopefully that will work. Well, gotta go, I'm making cookies...bad thing about not working is the urge to bake...will make losing weight harder I'm sure...LOL...I can't complain, I have been back to my pre-pregnancy weight since he was 10 days old...just want to tone up now and maybe lose more weight to get back to what I weighed before Kierra. Well, talk to you all again soon. Take care.

S&J
10-13-2005, 01:33 PM
Hi all
I'm the same as you kierrasmommy..i celebrate if troy sleeps 4 hours too!
Last night he went to sleep at 9pm and then woke up at 3:45am for a feed! i was shocked! I asked my dh if he wanted to bet that Troy would wake up at 12:30am..as he was only sleeping for 3-4 hours..luckily we didn't bet anything!! after that 3:45am feed he slept until 7am..i put his soother in and he slept until 9am....i was actually up before he was and had a cup of coffee! i know i shouldn't get used to this either! but it'd be nice if he got into that routine!

Have any of you gotten your baby's halloween costume yet? We haven't...we looked but all the infant costumes seem to have been bought out!! the only place i've seen any baby costumes is at the childrens place...i think we'll have to buy something there..i was looking for something cheap from walmart or zellers but there's nothing there..i think i'm going to check out old navy?? maybe there's something.

well i better get going..troy is on my lap right now and is getting a little restless!
talk to u all soon!
S :)

Spanish
10-13-2005, 03:40 PM
Hi S&J

I'm in the UK and I think Halloween isn't such a big deal here as it is in the States. But I was in a shop today and saw a little white babygro with a big smily pumpkin on it and the words 'Mummy's little pumpkin'. It also had a hat with a green stalk and leaves coming out of the top!! I just couldn't resist. LOL! We're going to take a photo of DD wearing it and then make them into cards to send to our families.

Spanish

kierrasmommy
10-13-2005, 04:34 PM
I haven't bought Kaden's Halloween costume yet, I better get one soon I guess. Kierra is going to be a fairy princess. I saw a flyer last week with pictures of baby cotumes in it but I can't remember where they were from, and I would bet they are sold out like you said. Kierra dressed up every year..the first year I just took a picture of her next to the pumpkin, and the second year she went to one neighbours place more or less to show her what Kierra was dressed as, but last year she went trick or treating for the first time and had so much fun she didn't want to stop...needless to say she is excited for Halloween already.
Yeah, the other night when Kaden slept for 4 1/2 hours I woke up 1/2 hour before he did...it was 4am but my internal clock must have been wondering why he wasn't up yet so I went to check on him, got a drink of water then went back to bed for the 1/2 hour until he woke up...lastnight he didn't do as well, he fell asleep and was up 1/2 hour later, not to eat, I think he just didn't want to sleep in his crib, I tried a couple times to just put his sucky (pacifier) in and he seemed to close his eyes like he was going to sleep but he didn't so after 10 minutes I picked him up and cuddled him for 10 minutes then put him back to bed and he slept for 3 1/2 hours. Well, I gotta go, Kierra is calling me and Kaden just started crying, talk to you soon.

kierrasmommy
10-13-2005, 04:39 PM
I found the flyer, it was from Zellers, they had infant pumpkin, ghost and kitty cat costumes that zip up and have a hood for $9.97 each. I'm going to maybe go there tonight and see if I can get one.

kierrasmommy
10-14-2005, 04:17 PM
Well, I lucked out, I found a caterpillar costume for Kaden at Zellers, they were out of the pumpkins and ghosts and had a few kitty ones but the kittys looked feminine so we got the caterpillar, it is really cute, and $9.97 is pretty good.
Do your babies sometimes projectile puke for no reason? This morning Kaden was sitting in his bouncy chair while Kierra and I ate breakfast and all of a sudden he exploded...he puked all over himself and up to about 3 inches past his feet off the boucy chair! He wasn't fussy before hand so it caught me off guard, and when I went to wipe him up he was all smiles...silly little guy. I know he isn't sick, I think he just ate too much...in the mornings I bring him in bed with me so he doesn't wake up Kierra (during the night she sleeps like a log, but in the mornings she is a lighter sleeper) and he eats, but I sometimes fall asleep (very light sleep) so he can attach himself to the boob whenever he likes and I don't pay attention to how much he eats....what do you guys think, did he just eat too much? Needless to say he has now had a bath and is sleeping again...he gets sleepy after baths, and after I got him dried off and dressed it was my turn to do the same and he didn't like that idea so he worked himself up over it, as soon as I picked him up and gave him his sucky he was all sleepy eyed so I layed him right in his crib while he was still half awake...I'm hoping that will help him learn how to fall asleep on his own...I haven't heard a peep out of him so it worked so far.
Well, I hope all is well with everyone else, talk to you all soon.

Sarahj
10-15-2005, 05:43 PM
Hi all-Sounds like there is progress being made with sleeping patterns. Tala is getting better as well. She gets up once between 3-4 am and goes to sleep at 9 pm most nights. I have to get her up at 6 am to get ready for daycare. She was a fussy last night from some pretty bad gas but still went to bed at 11 and slept til 4 am. Last night she slept from 4 am to 7:30 am in her crib. We are trying to get her used to the crib alittle more. Someone asked about "The Happiest Baby on the Block". We bought that book and it did wonders for her colic. It does have a lot on helping get healthy sleep habits as well.

Today we took the kids to get halloween costumes. Tristin is going to be Darth Vader, Piper is Dora the Explorer and Tala is a monkey with a banana peel on her head. The costume is going to be too big so we will probably have her in it again next year. Scott and I are dressing up this year as well. I am a tavern winch and he is a beer keg. It should be fun!!

Well, Tala is napping so I think I will too...talk to you all soon.

Sarah

S&J
10-16-2005, 12:29 AM
Spanish...that outfit sounds sooo cute! I'm in Canada and where we live everybody dresses up and decorates their houses and goes trick or treating. Dh and I go all out with decorating the yard for the kids! I worked in a school so the kids make sure to come by our place :D

Kierrasmommy..we went everywhere today looking for costumes! And where did we end up getting it??? Zellers!! and what is Troy going to be...??? A caterpillar too! It's the orange one..:) I think Troy had an upset tummy today because he spit up more than usual or else he ate too much. Maybe that's why Kaden spit more too? We also bought the wedge from babies r us and the little fleece blanket thingy that they can sleep in..it zips up...his room is a little bit cooler than the rest of the house and if i crank up the heat dh and i are sweating up a storm and can't sleep!

Sarahj..Troy has the same sleeping pattern as Tala..at least for now! The last 3 nights have been great! It's nice to be able to sleep for more than 4 hours!

Well....I think i'm going to try formula again tomorrow morning so i can pump. Troy was eating at least every 4 hours during the day but now it's about 3- 3.5...and it feels like he's draining me everytime...my boobs don't even feel full like they used to....i hope my milk isn't diminishing? Also..when he spit up yesterday it had some yellow in it? I always thought that it should be white?
Anyways...talk to you all soon!
S :D

Boo Boo
10-16-2005, 10:24 AM
Hi all,

glad to see this site is up and running, and glad to see you all missed me"!!":(

l have not been able to post as l have had my hands full with Annuam) she is now nine weeks old and weighs 11 ibs is that ok?

Im glad to see all you ladies are well and your little ones are good too, im kind of not into Haloween! although in the UK they celebtrate it big time!!

l wanted to ask if anyone has experienced a conditon called' cradle cap' l have been advised to wash my little ones hair without using soap with a sponge and then rubbing some mild oil in to the scalp. She has it quite bad and im not sure how it occured when l was exclusively breast feeding she was fine. She also has developed some kind of dermititis around her neck, its red and now has slightly bubbled up. I will be taking her to the docs, i think it may have been a reaction to some Johnsons baby wash (mild with oil init) that had caused it as l used it to clean Annuams neck. Her neck seems to complile some wrinkly stuff( yuck) its like a greyish colour)? or could it be the laundry powder? please help! Thanks.

kierrasmommy
10-17-2005, 07:01 PM
Sarah,
Thanks for the book review...it was me who asked, I should be getting a call from the library today or tomorrow that it is in, I want to try "The No Cry Sleep Solution" too, I read about that one on these boards as well. Anyone try that one?
S&J,
Kadens is the orange caterpiller too, we have the same one! LOL There's not alot of selection out there for babies so I imagine there are going to be alot of catepillers this Halloween.
BooBoo,
I missed you! What do the nurses/Dr's say about her weight gain? I know she had a slow start so I don't think I would be too concerned as long as the nurses/Dr's aren't. Kaden has had the odd flaky day on his scalp. I use Aveeno bath/shower oil in the water and it helps alot...but if you bath her before bed rub some baby oil on her head then in the morning gently comb the flakes off and wash her hair again and it should help, you may need to do it a few times. Kadens isn't cradle cap, so I just wash with his baby shampoo then rub the Aveeno into his head and all over his body to keep his skin soft. Kaden has a rash under his neck too, it's probably from spitting up or moisture...Kierra used to get it and the Dr said it was from moisture from her spitting up/drooling, I try to change Kadens bib a few times a day to make sure it stays dry...or it could be a heat rash as well. Be sure when you dry her off after baths that you get into the crooks and crevises and between the baby fat folds to dry off everywhere, and when bathing be sure to get into all those places and wash them out to prevent skin fold lint...Kadens rolls on his thighs and under his chin are so deep I have to really work at it to get into those places. Hope that helps...
We went to my parents house this weekend....Kaden's first long rode trip...it's a 4 to 4 1/2 hour drive and I was surprised at how well he did considering he doesn't usually like car rides. On the way there I pulled over on the side of the rode twice to give him his sucky, and also stopped once to feed and change his bum, a couple times I reached back and put his sucky in his mouth. When we were there though he didn't want anything to do with my Mom so he was pretty cranky if I gave him to her...and because my Mom often ends up in tears too when babies cry she would promptly hand him back to me, so by the time we headed home I think both kids were so pooped out that they were much better on the way home. Kaden fussed for 10 seconds twice then fell asleep on his own, we woke him up once to change his bum and feed him and then he slept again for almost the whole rest of the way home, he was cranky for the last 20 minutes of the drive home...then lastnight both kids slept pretty good. Kierra woke up at 11am this morning, and Kaden was so good to eat and go to sleep in his crib...no fussing to be back in bed with Mom from him lastnight. Well, I should go, Kaden needs to eat before we go out. Talk to you soon.

Spanish
10-18-2005, 05:18 PM
Hi Boo Boo
My DD has cradle cap as well. My health visitor said to rub oil into her head and then brush it through to lift of the flakes and then wash her hair. Like Kierra's Mommy said it will take a while to go but we've been doing it for only a couple of days and it's much better already. I don't know if your son has much hair, my DD doesn't so I've never bothered brushing it up to now but apparently the cradle cap is caused by a build up of the normal oily secretions from the hair follicles, so if you brush his hair / head every day it will stimulate them and stop the crusty build up.

Spanish

Sarahj
10-18-2005, 05:19 PM
Hello Boo Boo!! We did miss you! Tala had cradle cap for a short time. It was really icky because she has so much hair. Her hair is almost 2 inches long on top now. I could scrub it and it would come off but it just got stuck in her hair. We used a product by "Gentle Naturals" It is especially for Cradle cap. They also make a eczema baby cream, baby itch relief, and a tummy soother. I used it each time I gave her a bath and it has pretty much gone away. Also, the bubbling you are talking about around your dd neck sounds like a build up of crusties from spitting up and moisture. Tala has that too...and it isn't easy to get it out either. She had a bad buildup behind her left ear from where she was spitting up at night after I put her down. She rolls on her left side when we put her on her back.

Well, I am going to take a nap...

Talk to you all later

Sarah

kierrasmommy
10-19-2005, 12:36 AM
Hi,
Sarah did you have a good nap?
Spanish, thats good to know, Kadens hair is never messy so I rarely comb it but I will from now on.
BooBoo, how is her scalp doing, and did you get the rash checked?
I had an eventful evening, Kierra told me she had to blow her nose but couldn't get it and she asked me to clean her nose, so I looked and I could see something but it was deep, so I tried to teach her to blow hard, which didn't work, so I used Kaden's suction bulb on her, only to realize she had stuck a small soft plastic craft bead up her nose! I couldn't get it out, so we went to the Medicentre and they got it out, by then it was so close to the end of her nose I'm sure I could have gotten it out but I was already there so we stayed, I also got the Dr to make sure there was nothing else up there. Brat! I never thought she would do that but it seems to be a stage all kids go through, my nephew stuck a peice of foam from his pillow up his nose and didn't tell anyone for a long time, my sister ended up taking him to the Dr when she couldn't figure out why he smelled weird, turned out the foam was causing an infection from being in there so long...yuck. And last year I had brought Kierra to the Health Centre because she had a high fever and there was a little guy who had stuck a piece of foil up his nose. What makes them do it noone will ever know.
I have a question for those of you who pump...how much are you getting out each pump? And when you first started what was the amount....I have a dentist appointment tomorrow (cleaning and check up) so my sister is coming with me and she is going to take Kaden for a walk and watch him and Kierra while I'm in there, and if she can't handle him (he is a Mommy's boy and sometimes I am the only one who can settle him down) she can get the nurse to come ge me...anyhow I decided to pump some milk in case he gets hungry...this is the first time I have pumped for him, but I was able to get 5oz!!! I was shocked. With Kierra when I first started pumping, I was lucky if I got a couple tablespoons the first time and it took awhile for me to get up to 5oz in one pump...and I started pumping around now with her too...tomorrow Kaden will be 2 months old, after my dentist appointment I will go get him weighed...in case you are wondering why I weigh him so much it's because his babybook has a chart that goes by his age each month so in order to chart it properly I have to weigh him each month...I did with Kierra too so it's a good way to compare them....although he is growing faster by far, it's a boy thing I think. Then after he gets weighed I have to go to the library because the book (Happiest Baby On The Block) is in for me. Well, that's all for now I'll come post tomorrow. Talk to you all soon.

kierrasmommy
10-19-2005, 12:28 PM
I forgot to mention...5oz from just one side!!! :eek: I am sure I could have gotten 9oz or more if I did both. My sister said everything works better the second time round so that's why I can pump more than I could in the beggining with Kierra...I don't know if that's true but I do know I was lucky to get 2 tablespoons from both sides when I first started with Kierra. And it took quite some time to be able to pump as much as I did lastnight. Well gotta go get the kids dressed so I can head to the dentist, talk to you later.

Boo Boo
10-19-2005, 12:37 PM
Hi all,

Hope you are all well. We have our own problems to deal with and now it looks like we may have to deal with this bird flu epeidemic which has really worried me with a baby.
l am so mad l have been typing this message for 15 minutes and then l pressed something and it liked disapperaed so know l am having to retype ! :( im sooo mad)

Anyway, cradle cap has got better, have to wash hair again using baby oil and comb. However, did go to babies r us to get Gerbers kit they dont have it not sure if its exclusive to US think you can pourchase it from web. Here in the U.K. babies r us are not all that.

As for neck well Kierrasmommie you are rite l reckon whilst cleaning dd neck l may have neglected certain drying of creases? it has been really inflamed, and the white blothces ahve gone. However, last nite there was some bleeding from her neck like a paper cut type. I just applied oilve oil and placed some cotton wool over nite under her chin with a plaster ot hold it down. In th emorning the cotton wool had diapeared into her baby grow!! she moves tooooooooo much. I AM JUST WORRIED THAT IT MAY BE ECZEMA, . My husbands sisters kids have had it in the past and one had it real bad. My hubby has never himself had it. No one in my family has had it. the doc did prescribe me some cream but it contains some Hydrocortisine which is known to thin the skin so l have not used it I am thinking of using aloe vera gel fromt eh plant itself, this should be fine? its to apply to the back of dd neck which looks like a dry rash and is red. Please advise..

Thanks

Boo Boo
10-19-2005, 12:39 PM
Kierrasmommie so good to see you are still exclusively breast feeding l breast feed my dd about 3 times a day now, and bottle feed the rest.

kierrasmommy
10-19-2005, 08:54 PM
BooBoo,
Thanks, yeah, breastfeeding is going well. Today Kaden drank his first bottle of breastmilk, first bottle period...but he drank it. I had to switch the nipple once but he liked it after that, and he drank pretty much the whole 5 oz I had pumped, he spit up some but my sister had fed him so I don't know how much he spit up. We got him weighed today and he is starting to slow down now, he is 13lbs 13oz, he was such a wiggle worm and flirting (smiling) at the nurse that the scale didn't beep so she just went by what weight it showed the most.
Glad things seem to be better with the rash, I had a perscription for kierra once or twice like yours and it's fine to use as long as you use it sparingly and not for too long, once the rash gets better discontinue it....well I have to go Kaden is crying and DH sent Kierra to get me, talk to you all soon,
take care.

S&J
10-19-2005, 09:00 PM
Kierrasmommy..i've gotten 6-7oz on one side! That's the side that Troy usually eats from...my other side isn't getting as full as it used to. Is anyone else experiencing this or are both your bbs full? I know i tried to offer both bbs at each feeding.

He's having a nap on his tummy right now..dh is watching him. I still dislike having tummy time b/c troy cries :( I thought that maybe because he's sleepy i'd try stick him on his tummy and when he wakes up he'll lift his head and maybe move it to the other side. He does sleep great on his back and that's how he sleeps....I only try and have play tummytime a few times a day but it lasts for only a few minutes because he cries.....I've noticed that his hair on the back of his head is starting to thin in one spot, so more tummy time is needed! I just reread this paragraph and noticed it kind of rambles on so i hope u allknow what i'm talking about!

Troy didn't have a bm for a day and the next day he went 3 times! And it was a lot! Can anyone suggest why this might have been? He usually goes at least once a day.

Well i better get going...dh says Troy is starting to wake!
S :)

Laur77
10-20-2005, 12:15 PM
S&J; my son usually goes at least once a day too. A couple times though he has gone a couple days without going at all. Then suddenly it all starts coming, and he'll go several times in one day, and right out of the diaper (lovely). I don't know why this happens, he is BF, so wouldn't think he should be getting bunged up.

kierrasmommy
10-20-2005, 03:35 PM
S&J, Kierra did that before (not have BM for a day or two then went quite a bit once she started again) I had asked her pediatrician and he said it's normal as long as she wasn't showing any signs of being constipated, in pain, straining etc. Kaden used to go at least several times a day (pretty much everytime he peed he'd poop too) and now he is down to once a day.
I went to the library yesturday and got the Happiest Baby On The Block book, I also got the No Cry Sleep Solution which I started reading lastnight, it sounds promising from the stories of success she discusses in her book, but I haven't gotten to the tricks yet, so I guess we'll see in a month or two. There is a story about a 3 month old in there who had success by day 45 of the No Cry Sleep Solution, so it sounds possible. Kaden is having more problems sleeping during the day and early mornings than he does first thing at night but I'm hoping he'll learn to sleep better after I read these books. Anyone else having problems getting thier babies to sleep well during the day? Kaden is sleeping in his swing right now but it seems like he doesn't sleep very deeply because I have to go to him several times to put his sucky back in, if he sleeps in his bassinette or crib he doesn't sleep very long at all. In the evenings he sleeps good because I've gotten into a routine of giving him a late evening bath, then I rub the nighttime lotion on him and get him dressed, top up his belly a bit and once he falls asleep I put him in his crib and he has been very good lately at staying asleep...the odd time he'll wake up, but most nights he falls asleep well, and even after feedings he normally tends to stay asleep, but once it gets closer to morning he seems to be a lighter sleeper and will wake up shortly after I lay him back in his crib, then I end up having to bring him to bed with me to prevent him from crying enough to wake up Kierra. This morning I tried to put him back in his crib at 6am after a feeding and he woke up within 5 minutes and wouldn't go back to sleep so I had to take him to bed with me, and once I layed him on my chest he fell right back to sleep. He sleeps on his tummy on my chest quite well, he turns his head from side to side easily too....in fact too easily, I sometimes have to gently hold his head down so he falls asleep and not plays around turning his head side to side. Makes me wonder if he would sleep well on his tummy if he does it so well when he sleeps on me that way, but I am so scared to even try it. I know I probably shouldn't be so scared because when we think of how many years all mothers used to put their babies to sleep on thier bellies before SIDS research said thier back is best...but I still am scared.
Well, I seem to be rambling, so I'll go for now. Any advice or feedback would be appreciated. Hope you all are doing well. Talk to you soon.

kierrasmommy
10-20-2005, 03:41 PM
S&J How old is Troy now and how long have you been pumping, and when you first started were you able to get that much from one pump on one side? I seem to have the same fullness in both breasts but I recall being a bit fuller on my right side when I was breasfeeding Kierra. I wasn't sure if it was because I was right handed and slept more on my right side causing more pressure to make me leak more thus produce more on that side, but I just tried pumping more often on the less full side and starting feedings with the less full breast for feedings finishing with the more full side and eventually it evened out.
Well, I gotta go, Kaden is awake yet again.

Boo Boo
10-20-2005, 04:18 PM
Hope you are all well,

Kierrasmommie,

Annaum is exactly the same when it comes to sleeping. I dont think she ever falls to sleep in her crib by her self in the nite. I breast feed her and then l have to rock her in my arms and then walk like a zombie to put her in the crib last nite l was literally an inch from placing her down and she started to cry :)

recently when she wakes up around 6 am or 8am after feeding l put her next to me in the bed which l dislike ! as l am so afraid (bed sharing) she will play abput then fall asleep as soon as she has l then move her.

Anyway Annaum has started to move around in her crib. Meaning dear ladies l place her in the middle on her back couple of hours later when l checked up on her she was lying on her back but diaganlly/ STRANGE? l then put her back in the middle and again later she had moved to the right hand side and was lying / HAS ANYONE ELSE EXPERIENCED THIS?

Boo Boo
10-20-2005, 04:26 PM
Oh by the way is anyone using a pacifier /dummy l am not but was just wondering as we never ever have mentioned it ? to my records any way just wondering! :)

Laur77
10-20-2005, 04:38 PM
Boo Boo
My DS does the exact same thing! I wake up during the night, and he is sometimes almost completely sideways in his crib! I do not use a pacifier, but only because Logan is not interested.

kierrasmommy
10-21-2005, 01:43 AM
BooBoo,
Kaden is pretty good at night, he falls asleep while nursing then I just move him to his crib, I guess I am lucky that he does fall asleep and I am able to move him without having to walk or rock him, but early mornings he doesn't do as well with that, I don't like him in bed with me either, but I don't fall asleep, I rest...I'm too scared to fall asleep, or maybe it's just maternal instinct. Kaden is with DH and I can hear him screaming...definite Mommies Boy, so I'll make it quick, yes I do use a pacifier...I call it his sucky...he likes it now but it took a bit and even still sometimes I have to hold it for a few seconds before he takes it. Talk to you all tomorrow.

kierrasmommy
10-21-2005, 02:48 PM
Hi, just a quick note for those of you who are having a hard time with tummy time...I thought Kaden was as well, but today right after he woke up (when he is usually in the best mood) I pulled out our Tiny Love playmat/jungle gym and he actually stayed on his belly for several minutes, then I was able to just roll him on his back and let him bat at the hanging toys and look in the play mirror, he's been on the floor for about 15 minutes now and is actually liking it, he even smiled at himself in the mirror...now I wish I would have pulled it out sooner. Talk to you all later.

Spanish
10-21-2005, 04:48 PM
Hi All

S&J - If you are breastfeeding then really don't worry about bowel movements. My health visitor said that breast fed babies can go up to 10 day (!!!!) without a bowel movement. It's because they use up all the nutrients in the breast milk and there are no waste products. My DD usually goes about once a day and boy and those scary nappies!

DD is not great at sleeping during the day but we've been trying various ideas. One that seems to be working well is using white noise. I noticed it one day when I was expressing. She was in her chair and fussing quite a bit but when I turned on the (noisy electric) pump she went really quiet and drifted off to sleep. Today I put her chair next to the dishwasher and that seemed to work well and we've tried a de-tuned radio a couple of times.

DD also doesn't like tummy time, she holds her head up really well but she'll only tolerate a couple of minutes before she starts yelling.

Anyway hope you are all well.

Spanish

S&J
10-21-2005, 04:51 PM
i tried putting troy on the breast feeding pillow on his belly and he did pretty good for a few minutes..i know he wasn't flat on his tummy but he did raise his head and look around a bit...i'm assuming this could work as tummy time?

Also...yesterday when he was eating he really wasn't staying on long...kind of sucking and then pulling off....it was like he wasn't getting enough milk...today i thought i'd try and give him some formula after he ate...well he must of had enough...because i didn't need to give him formula....he also spit up a lot yesterday..could this have been because he ate too much or something didn't agree with him? i also usually hear him swallowing and can hear the milk going into his tummy. I hope he eats better this afternoon than he did yesterday!

well it's a beautiful day and dh is home..so we're going for a walk!

kierrasm--how's it going with your dh??
hope you're all doing well!

Kiedy
10-21-2005, 05:42 PM
Kierrasmommy,

My DS hates tummy time, so I did what you suggested, put him on his mat first thing in the morning, and infact he lasted there longer. After he gets frustrated I prop him on my pillow, buys extra couple of minutes, but boy is he ever angry to be there.

I prop his head to show him what he is missing out on ( his head control is pretty good, he can sit on my lap and all I have to do is just hold his back), or show him how to roll over, but he is not interested, lol. He likes lying infront of the TV or the fireplace, he is attracted to the light, though it actually looks like he is watching TV (already starting a bad habit). I just want him to roll over, what does a mom have to do, lol. He does everything else, that's expected.

My DH is somewhat better at night w/ carrying for DS, but is still pretty lazy w/ him in the morning, and as deaf as ever to his crying. I've gotten better at having him care for him too. There are times when I want to pick him up, and in last second I stop myself and think... NO, let DH watch him for a while.

Wether here is pretty lousy, hard to go outside when it's raining all the time. Hope you are all doing well. :wave:

Spanish
10-21-2005, 06:34 PM
LOL Keidy. My DD seems to watch the TV as well...I have to turn it off to get her to turn her head away! I guess they are fascinated by the lights and colours on the screen.

Are there August Mums whose babies are rolling yet? When do most babies start to roll? My DD (now 11 weeks) is showing no signs of rolling, she's not even trying to turn over. Do babies kind of work up to it or do they just suddenly do it one day?

Spanish

kierrasmommy
10-21-2005, 08:27 PM
S&J,
Kaden seems to do the same thing sometimes with breastfeeding, but I'm beginning to wonder if the milk just lets down faster and he gets his feeding quicker, or what? I will sometimes switch sides to see if that helps, sometimes it does. Or I'll wipe his face and my breast off (he gets both pretty wet) and that helps him out as well. I wouldn't worry about it if he seems fine otherwise. Thanks for asking about the DH situation, it is a bit better, Thanksgiving weekend he was awesome we did alot together and with the kids...but he did screw up once or twice after that and thats when I packed up and drove to my parents place with the kids for the weekend to give him time to think, we talked the night following our return back home and he seems to be better. He actually called just now to say he was stopping for a beer with a friend and would be right home..so he has progressed to at least calling and letting me know. DH fed Kaden a bottle lastnight too, his first time feeding Kaden, my sister gave Kaden his first bottle on Wednesday and lastnight was Kaden's second bottle. He takes it really well so now I'm not so worried about DH's Christmas party next month...My sister will be babysitting Kaden and Kierra so we can go to the party and I was worried about him not wanting bottles, so we will continue to give him a bottle from time to time, but so far he has no problems...as long as you don't try burping him before he is done, LOL. DH tried burping him a couple times lastnight and got an earful from Kaden.
Kiedy,
That's good that it seemed to help, all we have to do is continue doing it regulary so they get used to it, Kierra and I helped play with the toys for Kaden so he was pretty attentive to what was going on.
Spanish,
I looked in Kierras baby book and she was a day or 2 shy of 10 weeks old when she first rolled from tummy to back, so it should be any time for your DD. And Kierra was almost 7 months old when she rolled from back to tummy. I can't remember how it came about but I think she just did it all of a sudden, I don't think there was any signs of it coming soon...do you try showing DD how to roll? I remember when DD was on the floor I'd take her leg and slowly/gently swing it over like she would need to learn for rolling. But all babies progress at different rates some do it sooner, some later, I think alot of it has to do with how much tummy time/practise they get, and also their physique and strength. Let us know when she does do it so we can all celebrate. :bouncing:
Well, take care everyone talk to you soon.

S&J
10-22-2005, 03:26 PM
Kierrasmommy--i'm glad to hear that your dh is getting better! Good for Kaden for taking a bottle! We're leaving Troy with my parents tonight as dh and i and some friends are going to a "haunted house" or project x as it's called in Calgary. This will be our first outting and Troy's first time taking a bottle without me being around to watch Dg (dear grandma) give it to him! He takes the bottle well too and i'm sure he'll be fine tonite! (I hope) I'm not sure how i'm going to be without him! But i think it'll be nice to be with dh as we haven't been out alone yet! :)

Spanish - Troy hasn't even rolled yet and he's almost 13 weeks. He also hates his tummy time. I think he was on his tummy once for about 1 minute and didn't cry..the rest of the time he did cry. He's not even close to trying to roll from tummy to back!! I'm trying not to stress about it but it's hard not to when other babies are rolling no problem...maybe it's because Troy is so big! I hope he'll be able to in the next month or so.

Keidy---Troy loves to watch TV as well....i don't think it's a bad habit because there are DVDs out there that are educational for them to watch (baby einstein) I think Troy will get some for Christmas! :)

Well dh and I are going to start putting out some halloween decorations...(we're kids at heart!) I hope Troy gets as excited as we do as he grows up about these things!!

Hope you're all doing well and talk to you all soon!
S :)

Sarahj
10-22-2005, 03:50 PM
Hi all-looks like things are going well for everyone. We have been very very busy these days. Tala is sleeping 7 hours a night now and actually spent her first night with Grandma and Grandpa last night. They live an hour away, but my mom comes in town twice a week and picks Tala up from daycare. She keeps her for a few hours and brings her home when I am off work. Tala did wake up once around 1 am but my mom seems to think she would have gone back to sleep if she hadn't gotten up. She wasn't really hungry or crying so it is likely.

We are getting ready for halloween. All the decorations are up and the kids are excited about going trick or treating.

Spanish-you asked about rolling over. I am not sure what is "normal" for a child, but Tala rolls from her back to her side fairly well now. She is 10 weeks now. I think it is because we laid her on her side for so long when we brought her home from the hospital. When we started putting her on her back, she would automatically roll to her side. She doesn't seem very interested in rolling onto her tummy just yet. As for tummy time, she isn't a big fan of it. I don't press the issue much either, since she has really good head control.

Tala also seems to be noticing the TV more these days. We bought an aquarium activity center for her so she isn't tempted to watch tv. I have heard that too much tv watching at this young of an age can case hyperactivity later. She really like the activity center and I have noticed her trying to reach for the toys that hang down. Yesterday when I was giving her a bath, I noticed her staring intently at a comb next to the sink. She actually managed to grab the thing and it took some effert to get her to let go. That is something we will have to work on I guess. She sometimes wakes herself up when she grabs her hair and can't let go. She tries to pull her hand away but she is still holding a handful of hair.

Well, I am going to get a nap in before I have to take the trip to pick up Tala...seems like I just can't catch up with my sleep no matter how hard I try.

Talk to you all later

Sarah

S&J
10-22-2005, 06:47 PM
Hi again....

Troy doesn't even roll on his side yet....only once..i've been trying to encourage him to but he doesn't. He doesn't even try to grasp at things either. I'm going to talk to the dr about all this when we go in for his 3 mos appt...i'm starting to get concerned now since younger babies are doing much more than him!!

Sarahj--i wouldn't let troy watch tv for a long time...he only looks when we're holding him or is in his bouncy chair and i'm on the phone..doing quick housework..etc....even if he did watch tv i don't think he would watch for long since i heard babies don't pay attention long to many things...know what i mean? But i heard the dvds are great and are very short..it has music and lot's of colors. Congrats on tala sleeping 7 hours! Troy is too..sometimes even 8!
Well...we;re going for a walk and need to start getting ready to go to G&G's..
talkto u all soon!
S :)

kierrasmommy
10-22-2005, 06:48 PM
S&J,
I think we have something similiar here in Edmonton for Halloween, I saw a preview of it on TV and it looks spooky, have fun. Last year 2 houses at the end of our street had constructed a haunted house between both their yards and took donations for the food bank for admission, it was pretty good, scared the c%&p out of me. It was actually better than most haunted houses I have ever seen. They did really good. I'm sure Troy will do just fine, Mommy will be thinking of him more than he is of her I'm sure. We decorated for Halloween a few weeks ago...I think I was a bit gung ho about it because I was the first one on our block with decorations. People kinda looked at the house strangely...I hope they were just admirring our good job. LOL
Everyone should try not to be too concerned about how soon their babies do certain things, like I said all babies do things at their own pace...I learned that when Kierra was a baby (there were 4 of us within 6 months of each other who had babies) all the little ones were doing things at different ages, Kierra rolled before 2 of the other babies, but one of the others walked way earlier than Kierra. What one baby may do later in one task compared to other babies his/her age, s/he will also be doing different tasks earlier than others as well. Kierra rolled and talked earlier than her friend Sarah, but Sarah walked and potty trained earlier than Kierra. Hope all that rambling made sense.
Sarah, Did you do anything to help teach Tala to sleep that long? I am reading the No Cry Sleep Solution and I have already been doing alot of what they suggest. But I am still in the beginning of the book so I still can learn more. I have also noticed Kaden is trying to reach for things, last week I put him in his swing hoping he'd fall asleep while I did dishes and I could hear one of his hanging toys that hang from his swing rattling away like mad, I though Kierra had snuck out of bed and was playing with him but when I went to look he had figured out how to bat at his toys, I also have a stuffed frog stuck between his change pad and the wall and he was trying to bat at it the last couple days...he has also pinched me on a few occasions and today pulled my hair. LOL. And the best is all the smiles we get now...except at 4am this morning when he should have been sleeping, but it still made my heart melt. Kierra used to pull her hair when she was mad and she too couldn't figure out how to let go, I ended up keeping those scratch mitts on her to prevent her from pulling her hair, and scratching herself, and also to keep her hands warm, I have to for Kaden as well, because he scratches himself and his hands get cold easily.
Well, I should go get some reading in or maybe a nap, DH just left to take Kierra swimming and Kaden fell asleep in his swing. I'll talk to you all later.
OH! I keep forgetting to mention, I think my hormones have started making my hair fall out now, not alot but enough to notice...is 8-9 weeks postpartum when you started noticing the same thing?

Laur77
10-22-2005, 08:10 PM
Logan has not even come close to rolling over yet. He will be 3 months Nov.2. I wouldn't worry about it, I don't. I know he'll do it when he is ready!

Sarahj
10-23-2005, 04:23 PM
Kierrasmommy-I think the only thing we have done to help Tala sleep longer is switching her to her swing and making sure she is burped thoroughly before putting her down at night. If she doesn't burp well, she wakes up at least one extra time. She has pretty much worked up to sleeping longer over time.

I agree that babies will develop differently. There are many things that effect development of babies. I wouldn't worry about how your child "measures up" with any other children.

Gotta run...we are having friends over and we need to make a trip to the grocery.

Sarah

Kiedy
10-23-2005, 05:10 PM
For those of you who breastfeed, I have a question.

The last time I feed my son is around 9:30pm and then next time is at earliest 4am, but can be as late as 6 or 7:30am. Sometimes I could prolong it longer, but my breasts are killing me, they are so full. Does that get better, can my body adjust to that decreased demand at night?

kierrasmommy
10-23-2005, 09:08 PM
Yes, your body will eventually learn when you need it and when you don't once your little one gets onto a routine feeding time.
Sarah, does she sleep in the swing all night? You have given me hope that soon I will be sleeping more than 4 hours at a time. LOL

Laur77
10-23-2005, 11:16 PM
Oh no! I thought the batteries in the swing were dying because it was barely moving. So I changed the batteries, and same thing. When I took Logan out and then tried it, it worked fine. He is already too heavy for it to work properly!! This was the only way he would take a nap during the day. Guess I'll have to find a new trick!!
Just out of curiosity, does anyone have a Graco open-top swing (or similar brand) and know what the weight limit is? Ours is a hand-me-down, and I don't have a manual. I was just curious to know what the weight limit is supposed to be. Thanks!

Spanish
10-24-2005, 10:10 AM
Keirra's mommy: Yes about the hair loss! Mine if coming out in handfulls. I hope it slows down soon or Im not going to have any hair left! I think it started a couple of weeks ago and I'm now nearly 12 weeks PP so I guess it started about the same time as you.

Keidy: I'm with you on the night-time breast feeding. DD sometimes goes through the night now and when she does I'm always awake before her, in agony and soaking through a load of breastpads! I don't know if our bodies will adjust but I have found that it helps to express just before I go to bed so that my breasts are empty and then I get up and express again if they are too painful in the morning. In the morning I don't express too much because I know DD will want to feed soon - just enough to reduce the pressure and make them less painful.

Spanish

Boo Boo
10-24-2005, 11:16 AM
Hi,

Well as for tummy time Annaum isok for about a minute, the rolling a small towel. soft sheet and placing it under her arms and neck is good l suggest you try it if not already done so.

Annaum is still having problems trying to go to sleep early do any of you ladies find it hard to get your babies to sleep before 11.30 pm? l take anaum up at 9 pm and get her ready for bed with dim lights feed her etc? she may sleep for half an hour and thne is wide awake! HELP! im thinking of udoing th ehoover tip when you record the hoover on a tape and play it!

As for hair falling out well i did notice 2 days ago my hair falling in the shower, and then when l combed it a bit fell and just now it fell out too not loads but becuase its quite long it seems like a lot. l am takin gmy anemic tabs too. l was thinking of dying my hair as l have not coloured it for a year and geting it trimmed for next week? So your advice will be helpful ta :)

kierrasmommy
10-24-2005, 05:42 PM
Laura, How much does he weigh? I know I recently had to change the batteries in pretty much everything that Kaden has. LOL And his swing and bouncy chair both wouldn't work with batteries that had been in use before...I didn't have batteries in the house so I took them out of other things that the batteries worked in and it didn't work, but once I got brand new batteries it did....example I took batteries out of his fish pond crib toy and put it in his chair and it didn't work at all even though his fish pond still works. So you may just need a fresh set of batteries.
BooBoo I tried to put Kaden to sleep earlier lastnight and it didn't work...I guess you really do have to gradually change their bedtimes over a week or so by starting the bedtime routine 15 minutes earlier every other night. Well, gotta go, Kaden is mad because he can't see me. Talk to you all soon.

S&J
10-24-2005, 08:33 PM
Hi all!
I'm so mad!! well not quite! I just finished typing and it took like 15minutes!!!!and i deleted it!!arghh!
anyways...
Troy did great at G&G's! he had a bath..took his bottle well and made it through his 15min of fussy time. DH and i had the bejeeses scared out of us but we enjoyed our time out and looked forward to coming home to Troy!

Yesterday we went to visit some of Dh's relatives and his grandma from outta province was there. It was quite a visit! Troy had rosey cheeks yesterday and she commented on that and immediately stuck her finger in his mouth and said he was teething..she couldn't feel anything but said he sure was sucking on her finger. She then proceeded to her van and got some ovalgel or whatever it's called and stuck some gel in troy's mouth..i had NO time to react..or read the package or even say no!! She also said that breastmilk isn't good enough for babies and he should be on pablum by now...can you believe it??? I know that troy was alittle fussier than normal..it could have been from being somewhere new and different people holding him...his cheeks could have been red from being hot and i'm sure he would suck on anything that gets shoved in his mouth!! even if he could be teething i'll leave that up to his dr. to suggest that to me!! Needless to say dh and were glad to come home!

Laur--we don't have that brand of swing but i think they all might have the same weight maximum? ours says to discontinue use it the child is very active and appears to be able to climb out and is over 25lbs. How big is Logan now?

We;re going for troy's 3mos appt tomorrow..it'll be interesting to see how much he's gained since last time! he's also starting to last a ittle longer during tummy time...about 2-3 minutes..i know it's not a lot but it's something right!? :)

well i had more to write but my piano students are here!
talk to you all later!
S :)

kierrasmommy
10-24-2005, 10:49 PM
S&J,
I've had that happen a couple times...type a long post then go to post and it loses everything!
Don't you just love the kind advice of old fashioned people. :mad: My Mom tried that a few times when I had Kierra and eventually gave up after I got mad at her each time and I would explain how and why things have changed and that I was right not her...needless to say she told my sister I had post partum depression because of my reaction to her constant meddling. :blob_fire Even this last trip up to their place I was trying to do something and my Mom had Kaden who was crying (I honestly think he sensed her uneasiness and it made him cranky every time I gave him to her) anyhow I caught her at the last second just about to dip his sucky in honey...I stopped her and told her not to because it's unpasturized and he could get sick from salmonella or something like that and I also don't want to get him into that sort of bad habit either, she kinda made a face but followed my orders not to. I think because that is one thing they always did when we were all babies they figure it didn't harm us so why not?
If he is teething he will have a small swollen bump where the tooth is coming out, sometimes it is red but it can also be white from the pressure of the tooth pushing up. I remember a couple times looking in Kierras mouth and I could see a tiny grey line in the middle of the lump where the gums beneath the surface had already started to separate, usually a day or 2 later you'd feel the top of the tooth, if you are ever unsure if it is a tooth that has come up take a small metal baby spoon and rub or softly tap the spot and if the tooth has broke the surface you will hear the clinking. I used fold a cloth into 4, and dip a folded corner in water then freeze it, then baby could hold the dry part and chew/suck the frozen part for comfort....but Kieera was 9 months old when she got her first tooth, so she was able to hold thigs herself.
I sure hope Kaden gets his teeth late too. Well, gotta go talk to you tomorrow. Take care.

Laur77
10-25-2005, 01:51 PM
S&J
Logan is about 17 pounds now. I didn't think that would be too heavy for the swing, especially since he is still in the reclined position. Hasn't even advanced to the sitting-up position! I tried brand-new Duracell batteries, but still dosen't work when he is in it. Maybe the swing is just getting worn out, as it is a hand-me-down!

Kiedy, yes your breasts will adjust. When Logan started sleeping longer, I had the same engorgement problem. Eventually my body adjusted. Last night he slept longer than ever, and my shirt was absolutely soaked this morning (I had given up the pads at night when everything adjusted). But boy the sleep is great!!

S&J
10-25-2005, 02:12 PM
Laur77-yeah the swing could be getting worn out...but they sure are a great thing to have hey?!

Well we're off to the dr today...i'll let you all know how it went! Troy slept from 11-7:15 last night....and i'm still tired!! IT's hard to imagine that he would only sleep an hour or 2 the first 3 weeks of his life!!
My heart melted this morning when i went to get him..he was smiling away :) Well i better get ready as he's down for a quick nap.
Talk to you all sooon!
S :)

kierrasmommy
10-25-2005, 03:09 PM
Kaden slept for 4 hours lastnight. LOL. Just thought I'd celebrate with you both. LOL. This morning he had about 3 minutes of tummy time and then when he got mad I rolled him over and he played with the dangling toys for another 15 minutes. He is great with back time. Well, that's about all talk to you all soon.

Sarahj
10-25-2005, 07:39 PM
Laur77-When you turn on the swing, are you giving it a little push? I know with our swing you have to get it started. It is possible it is just getting old, but if you just replaced the batteries it should work.

Kierrasmommy-Yes, Tala sleeps in her swing all night. She has been sleeping in her crib the last few nights, though. We thought it would be a good idea to get her used to it now. The swing we have has a 5 point harness system so we put her in the living room and use the monitor to hear when she wakes up. It has done wonders to help me sleep since I am already a light sleeper. By the way, I understand just what you mean about your mom. My mom has taken a long time to get used to Tala. She was very uneasy at first and Tala always cried when she held her. My mom also did something I can't believe anyone who has ever had a child (let alone 3) would do. One time when Tala was really hungry and I was working on her bottle, my mom took off the nipple and went to stick it in her mouth. Of course my reaction was to yank it out of her hand and yell "what are you doing?" She has gotten better with time. We actually sent Tala to stay the night last weekend. Of course, my dad was there and he would never let her do anything like that. She did just fine this time..other than trying to feed her every 2 hours. Tala eats every 4-5 hours like clock work.

Well, gotta get going on dinner.

Sarah

kierrasmommy
10-25-2005, 08:11 PM
Sarah,
I tried to see if Kaden would sleep longer in his swing and he wouldn't so he likes his crib, he just likes Mommies boobs too! Definately takes after his father. LOL. Oh well, in time. Kierra was sleeping for 5-5 1/2 hours straight at this point, but I guess Kaden just needs to eat more because he is so big. Yeah, my mom had 4 kids and enough Grandkids you'd think she'd be a natural, but in her older age she is a bit of an old grump and obsessive compulsive personality and she can't stand babies crying...when we went for a drive to visit some relatives when we were there last, despite me trying to give him his sucky several times, Kaden cried all the way to the place we were going (only a 10 minute drive)....my Mom ended up crying too.
Laura,
I was wondering if adjusting the recline would help at all, maybe with it being reclined and the way his weight is distributed it can't get the momentum it needs to get going and stay going. Try sitting the seat up to the next notch or two.
Well, I too have to go get supper going and finish dishes...the darned dishwasher decided to stop working lastnight so until we go dishwasher shopping I will be having dishpan hands. As if my hands weren't already dry enough from all the times I wash them throughout the day after diaper changes and whatnot.
Talk to you all soon.

Sarahj
10-25-2005, 08:38 PM
I forgot to mention...since Tala uses her swing so much, we bought a rechargeable battery system. It cost about $20 for the system and $10 a pack for the batteries. It is a savings in the long run since she uses the swing so much. We were replacing the batteries every few days.

Talk to you all later...

Sarah

S&J
10-25-2005, 08:40 PM
lol @ kierrasmommy about the dad liking the bbs!! :) My dh seems to have no problem having some time with them but my views have changed for the moment as "they're" just for food and drink!! :)

Well Troy weighs 15lbs 11oz and is 24 inches long! He's a big boy! with some big gopher cheeks!! He's not teething and after 2 days without a bm he went today and BOY was it smelly!! I think he feels much better!

Have any of you found your babies eating up a storm all day and then they sleep longer at night? I was concerned that he shouldn't be eating every 2-3 hours at this age but i guess it's because he sleeps longer at night time and is more hungry during the day to get that extra amount. He's also found his thumb and sucks away on that, but when i see him doing that i switch it to his soother..i'm assuming there's no harm in that...i don't want him to get too used to it.
Well..i better get going!
Hope you're all well and check on you all later!
S :)

Kiedy
10-25-2005, 10:38 PM
I took my DS for check up today too, I was curious to see how big he was. He weighs 16lbs and is 26 inches and his head is 43cm, no wander he can't roll over, w/ a big head like that.

S&J my DS now poops every 7 days. When he does though, it's like the whole day every 3hrs. I really don't know where he stores it. I think he lost a pound yesterday just by pooping so much.

Oh, my "no-cry sleep solution" book came yesterday, so I've been busy reading it. I had no idea that if your baby sleeps 5hrs at night (from midnight to 5am) it's considered to sleep through the night!!! Who's idea of sleeping is that??? I'm going to be working on having him fall asleep w/o his pacifier, b/c he always wakes up when it falls out at night, which is such a pain. I tried today before his naps, boy was he mad, the book said it wouldn't work and to start at night, but I thought I would give it a try.

Laur77
10-26-2005, 09:53 AM
Kiedy, what day was your son born? Sounds like their stats are pretty close. Logan is 17lbs, 26 inches. He has a huge ****** too. I can't remember what the measurement was, but it was WAY off the charts! My mom says babies with big heads are smarter...I think she made that up, lol!

S&J, yes my son eats quite a bit during the day, and sleeps through the night. So I am pretty happy with that!

As for the relatives, I've decided if it is not causing Logan any real harm, I'll just let it slide. For instance, I'll tell my mom he does not like to be cuddled that way, or he doesn't like his arms under the blankets. She'll do it anyway, but Logan will let her know!! The unsolicited advice is great too...just gotta bite our tongues to keep peace I guess.

Laurie
P.S. I guess there was something wrong with our swing. Hubby fiddled with it, now it works again. Yea!!

Laur77
10-26-2005, 09:54 AM
That word that the moderators starred, was another word for HEAD, not something dirty?????? Weird.

kierrasmommy
10-26-2005, 01:39 PM
Hi all,
Glad the swing is working again.
I keep forgetting to mention a few days ago when we first discussed the BMs (or lack of for a few days) I think you guys jinxed us because Kaden hasn't pooped since then. LOL, It's been at least 3 days. But I know Kierra did the same thing and I am preparing for when he does go...Kierra would poop so much she'd explode out her diaper.
The cluster eating during the day is normal when babies sleep longer at night, in the No Cry Sleep Solution they even suggest trying to feed baby more during the day to help them sleep longer at night.
OH!!!!Kaden went 5 hours between feedings lastnight! I fed him at 12 midnight and put him in his crib at 12:15am...when I went to bed I looked at the clock thinking I'll be up again at 3:30 or 4 if I'm lucky so when he woke up and I looked at the clock at saw 5am my eyes just about popped out of my head :eek: . I hope this is a start. But I know he was pretty cranky lastnight. We had a window company come do an estimate then right after that the Canadian Baby Photograghers come show us our pics (and yes, we got suckered into buying...but I wanted to have pics of him too since we did it for Kierra...and the guy let me substitute 8X10s for more wallets and a cd of all the pics so I am happy) Kaden was quite irritated that I couldn't lay down and let him sleep on me...he'd wake up every time I layed him down on his own, he just wanted to sleep on my chest lastnight and because I was busy I was just holding him, so he was fighting going to sleep until he got his way. But once we did his nighttime routine and I got him to sleep he did great, he even slept in his crib until 8:15am...then he wanted to sleep on me so I had to bring him to bed with me, but I needed to get up at 8:45 so when I got out of bed he only slept for another 5 minutes and was up...but he went back to sleep in his swing and is just waking up now after 1 1/2 hours...so gotta go. Talk to you all later.

Sarahj
10-26-2005, 08:29 PM
Laur77- Glad to hear the swing is working again! The swing has really been great for us. Tala slept in it last night and she slept from 10 pm to 6:45 am. She doesn't always sleep that much but usually at least 6 hours.

Kierrasmommy-Glad to hear Kaden is starting to sleep longer periods too. It is funny how the more sleep I get, the more tired I am during the day. I guess part of that is the fact that I went back to work and can't just relax when she is sleeping.

Well, got dinner in the oven and the kids are getting hungry...

Sarah

kierrasmommy
10-26-2005, 10:26 PM
Hi,
Sarah I am still tired too, but I think it's because when Kaden is in bed with me I don't sleep, and Kierra has been waking up earlier the last week or so. I'm hoping to catch up on some sleep soon, DH will watch the kids one weekend morning or one evening so I can get some sleep...I'll just make sure I have some earplugs ready.
I took the kids to a movie today, my sister decided to come at the last minute too. Once a week they have something called Stars and Strollers where you can take your baby and enjoy a movie. They have tables set up with diapers and wipes and you park your stroller and watch the movie, most people there are Mommies with babies so if your little one cries noone gets annoyed. Today it was the movie Dreamer...the one about the race horse. It was ok, Kierra got bored half way through but she was good, I wasn't sure how she'd do but because she likes going to horse races I thought she might enjoy it. Kaden was good as long as I had him, my sister wanted to hold him but once I handed him over he hollared for Mommy so it wasn't very long.
Well, that's about it....Oh, I stopped to look at dishwashers today and Kaden decided to fart quietly just as the salesman walked up, so I'm sure I was blushing from embarrasment, my sister thought it was pretty funny..do your baby's farts smell? Kaden reaks as bad as his Dad.

S&J
10-27-2005, 12:08 AM
hi all...
Troy had some major stinky farts on the days he didn't poop..when they got really bad i knew that he'd be pooping soon and no kidding he decided to push hard in the dr's office..letting out some foul air and finally after 2 days...a big loong bm! I was soooo happy...i don't think any non-mommies would be this excited after a childs bm but i'm sure you all know what i mean! lol :)

Anyways..my shows on...gotta go
talk to you all later!!!
S :)

kierrasmommy
10-27-2005, 03:07 PM
I forgot to mention yesturday...after my first post when Kaden woke up in his swing and I went to change him he did poop...so he must have ESP and sensed I was talking about his lack of BM's. LOL But he still stinks when he farts. And it only gets better when they start formula and solids.
Kaden slept like his usual 3-3 1/2 hours lastnight so the 5 hours was shortlived, but tonight I am going to try and keep him awake longer and feed him more often (even when he isn't demanding it yet) and see if that helps. But he is getting better at falling asleep on his own...lastnight he woke up when I was walking him to his crib and was wide eyed by the time I layed him in it, I patted his butt for a bit then left the room, I only had to go in 2 times to put his sucky back in and then he fell asleep....today for his nap I put him in his crib tired but awake and I only had to go in once before he fell asleep so he is getting better. Well, I gotta go we are going to visit a friend of mine so I'll chat with you soon.
P.S I finished the No Cry Sleep Solution, so now I'm going to review it and take notes and see if I can copy the charts they provide for your use. Then I will try implementing the suggestions she had that I wasn't already using...I was surprised that alot of what she discussed I was already doing...I guess that may be why I have been lucky enough to have both my kids nurse and go right back to sleep for me at night, no marathon nursing sessions or having to drive around the block or walk the halls for us...I am counting my blessings. :angel:

Sarahj
10-27-2005, 05:00 PM
Ok yeah, Tala stinks big time. She has always had a lot of gas and she is formula feed, which I understand makes it worse. My boyfriend is always saying he can smell her farts a good 30 minutes after she lets one. It doesn't really bother me, I guess my sense of smell isn't as good as his.

S&J--I know just what you mean...I remember when I was breastfeeding hoping she would poop. I would be excited when she did since I would worry after a while. I didn't breastfeed for long, but I do remember it. Now Tala poops every morning before we leave for daycare and again in the evening, right before bedtime. She is very regular. I am not sure if she is going during the day since she is in daycare and they do not tell me unless she has diarrea of something.

Our doctor's appointment is tomorrow...we are very excited about finding out how much she weighs and how tall she is. I know she has really grown but it will be nice to know how much.

Talk to you all later.

Sarah

Boo Boo
10-27-2005, 07:36 PM
Hello all,

l feel quite left out! l now l havent posted for a few days!Anyway glad to hear all you are well. Annaum still has a mild case of cradle cap, although l ensure l oil her scalp and wash it every day. I am going ot get rid of all my Johnson baby products as l have been told they contain some harsh ingredients. I bath Annaum in water and olive oil and her skin comes out very moisturised.

Annaumnow weighs 11 pounds 6 ozs. Her prenatal tooth has also started to show! yes alot of people and health visitors are FLABERGASTED!

Annaum sleeps for about 7 hours now and she is nearly 11 weeks. I took her to the photograpers today for her second ''watch me grow plan''.

I dont now about the rest of you but l really have started to enjoy playing with dd now l think its due ot her gaining weight and becoming more chubbier!.

We went to our first pre-natal group although it was supposed to be on baby massage it was changed ot minor ailments. It was a great opportunity to see other mums with their little babbies! :)

Anyway better go bed time calls.

Boo Boo
10-27-2005, 07:41 PM
The swing is a great god send,

had to share this with you too. I bought a second hand Graco swing from ebay and does it help! yes l put annaum in there and get on woth house chores and she just's chill's in their. She has on 1/2 occasion fallen asleep with her on the side l was concerned about this. Is there anything anyone else used to ensure if baby falls asleep then they do not drop head too far down?

kierrasmommy
10-27-2005, 08:48 PM
Hii Boo Boo,
I miss you posting as often as you used to, I sometimes use one of those head huggers that come with your carseat carrier in Kadens bouncy chair so he doesn't have his head or neck all bent out of place.
Kaden is quite a crankpot today, not sure if it's because he hasn't slept as much as usual (Kierra accidently woke him up from his nap, then we went out and he didn't sleep much there) or if it is the gassiness or BM issue. If he is still cranky through the night I'll take him to the Dr tomorrow. Gotta go, talk to you later.

kierrasmommy
10-28-2005, 04:05 PM
Well, I think I spoke too soon about the good job Kaden was doing with sleeping...he was a Mr.Cranky Pants lastnight, when I first put him to bed he fell asleep good on his own, but he woke up an hour later and then each time he'd fall asleep after that and I'd put him in his crib he'd wake right up. So he would only sleep on me! I was getting so frustrated lastnight. I can't sleep if he is in bed with me so I basically just rested all night, everytime he'd start squirming I'd bounce him or pat his butt a bit and he'd go right back to sleep. But I'm hoping it was just a one time (or once in a while) thing and he is better tonight...if not DH is going to be getting a rude awakening...it'll be the first time he has to deal with Kaden at night...luckily I have 4 bags of milk frozen and earplugs. ;)
Well, I should go, I realized at midnight lastnight that today is the last day for 2 flyers we got, so I have some christmas shopping I need to get done today before those flyers expire...hopefully I'm not too late to get what I wanted, Kierra really likes those Furbies and they are on sale at Zellers, and she got a Leappad for her birthday and all the books are on sale at Toys R Us.

kierrasmommy
10-28-2005, 11:37 PM
I look like I have nothing better to do since I am the one who posted the last 3 times...but I had to tell you something...sorry in advance if it is too much information...remember how we were talking about lack of bowel movements, my experience with Kierra was once they do go again...they REALLY go...Kaden pooped on Wednesday after a few days of not going, that diaper wasn't as bad as I had prepared myself for...but Kaden made up for that today in a BIG way! He makes alot of noise when he goes so I waited until I knew he was done and brought him to change his bum, but he had gone so much that when I layed him down it squished it all up and out his diaper up to his neck! And I put his diapers pretty snug to prevent leakage, so that's gotta say something for you. I have never seen it that bad before and I have changed my fair share of diapers. I must have used 20 wipes and still couldn't get it all, his back was literally covered side to side all the way up to his neck, and it was tricky trying to get his diaper shirt off over his head without making a bad situation worse....secretly wishing I had put a button front diapershirt on him now...Needless to say he went straight into the tub after I got most of it off. Someone said something about they were sure their baby must have lost a pound after a particular diaper change...I truly know what they are talking about now. :eek:

Sarahj
10-29-2005, 09:14 PM
Hi all, glad to see you back Boo Boo. Tala sleeps in her swing and we used to roll a towel or blanket and wrap it around her head so her head didn't roll around. We had to stop doing that because she has recently started grabbing and pulling things to her mouth. She also likes to lick stuff and spent a lot of time struggling to get her tongue out far enough to lick the blanket. Normally I wouldn't care since it kept her busy, but it was keeping her awake at night. Her doctor says she is the nosiest 11 week old she has even seen.

We had a doctor's appointment Friday. She is 12 lbs 4 oz and 23.25 inches long. Everything checked out well. She had to get 3 shots and has been really cranky today. Anyone have a bad experience with their babies shots? Any ideas on how to soothe them?

We went shopping for dresses with the 2 girls today. We are having family pictures on Nov 13. We bought the cutest little matching dresses for them.

Well, gotta get Tala up from her nap so she will sleep tonight....

Talk to you all later,

Sarah

kierrasmommy
10-29-2005, 11:06 PM
Sarah,
I would always use a heating pad set on low over Kierra's leg and give her infant Tylenol. She usually was a bit cranky the first night but fine by the next day. So the first night she would get lots of cuddles so I could hold the heating pad in place. I also avoided touching anywhere near or having her put pressure on that leg. Even the side she layed on me we'd watch to make sure her leg was ok.
I laughed when you said she was trying to stick her tongue out far enough to reach the towel, I could just picture it, cute.
The Christmas pictures sound like they will be very cute, I have to go find something for all 4 of us to wear that will somewhat match for our pictures...I just can't decide if all 4 of us should match or if the kids should match each other and me and DH match together, or if it should be girls match each other and boys match each other...so many choices! We had an appointment for the 19th for our pics but DH has a pool tournament that I didn't know about that he organized for that day so I have to call and reschedule.
Well, I should go, we have to go find a pumpkin, Save On Foods was sold out, so we have to go find a store that still has some.

USPS84
10-30-2005, 03:45 PM
Wow, I haven't gotten on the computer in about a month!!! Glad to see you August moms have a thread going! I have no time to read back right now, but I have enough time to wish you all luck, and hope the babies are healthy!
Julie is fine, going to be 4 months old on November 12th. We had to switch her to the most expensive formula I have ever heard of ($25.99 for a SMALL can!!!!!!!!). She was allergic to regular, soy, gentlease, lactofree...So we put her on hypoallergenic- Enfamil's Nutramigen. She's doing much better. She now sleeps in 3-4 hour periods during the night, rather than 1-2!!! She has her 2nd shot appointment on the 16th, and I am curious to see how she's grown. She babbles like crazy, blows bubbles all day long, finally learned how to grab and pull on the toys to activate the music on her table swing. She is a very intelligent little baby! I still wish there was a way we could all share photos, but I know linking isn't allowed :( I got her the most cute Halloween costume. Ah crap, I need to go though!!! Lots of stress lately...Working 6 days a week, and now we're packing and painting because we're moving into the house on Tuesday the 1st.

Talk to you later, ladies!

kierrasmommy
10-30-2005, 03:56 PM
USPS,
Glad things are going better with the feeding...wow that is expensive, but what can you do? Geez your life does sound hectic with work, and preparing to move. What kind of costume did you get Julie? Kierra is going to be a Fairy Princess and Kaden is going to be a caterpiller. We went and got a bit of Christmas shopping done lastnight. Kierra was supposed to be sleeping overnight at my sisters place, so we did some shopping and then got a call at 10:30pm that they were bringing Kierra home because she was crying for her Mommy and wanted to come home. Must be a stage because she used to love sleeping there. Well, I should go, I have some stuff I want to get done today. I want to go to Walmart...I know I'm losing my marbles for going there the day before Halloween...and I have to move our ghost decoration to our cedar tree, where I have it now it doesn't work very well, and I have to find the spikes for the Halloween garden stakes I have...Oh I found a pumpkin lastnight and ended up staying up late to carve it into a mad cat face...I figured I better get it done while Kierra slept or she'd be wanting to carve it herself and I don't think sharp objects and a 3 year old are a good idea. Next year I think I'll let her empty the pumpkin though.
Talk to you all soon. Take care.

USPS84
10-30-2005, 06:26 PM
It's a heavy cotton mix (not that gross felt material!!!), and it's a hot pink baby leopard! It has a light pink belly, a hood with cat ears, a little tail, and cat paw prints knitted on the bottom of the feet. I can't wait to see her in it! I bought her a 0-3 for now, and a 3-6 so she can continue to wear it throughout the winter, since it's very much like a winter snowsuit!
Also, I wanted to pass along that Kohl's (not sure if you have that store where you are) has a HUUUUUUUUGE sale on all Carter's brand clothing. We have a Carter's outlet which is 30 miles north, but Kohl's is only 5 miles into the next city. Super prices, and good clothing. And I am talking top notch Carter's, not that Child of Mine and Just One Year featured brands they carry at Target and Walmart. So what I am saying is, Kohl's has CHEAPER prices than Walmart (all 30-60% off) and the clothing is much better quality. Go feel the inside of a Child of Mine sleeper, then go feel the inside of a Carter's regular sleeper. WHOA!
I bought Julie a christmas dress from there, too.

Sarahj
10-31-2005, 12:41 AM
Hello all...I figured since we are going to be so busy with Halloween tomorrow I would send a quick wish tonight for a happy (and safe) Halloween for all. Tomorrow is a busy day without Halloween since I am off work tomorrow to visit family. I am taking Tala to see her Grandparents, Great-Aunts and Uncles, and Great grandparents. It is about an hour drive but Tala is a good car rider.

USPS-Good to see you and Julie and doing well...sounds like you are busy. I haven't checked out Kohls baby clothes, but this weekend I spent a lot at The Baby Depot (Burlington Coat Factory). They had some really great deals on both Tala's clothes and her sisters too. She is a 4T and they had jeans, long sleeve sweaters, and a thick winter jacket for less than $20. We found the same jacket's at Target for $27...and that was just the jacket.

Well, it is close to feeding time so I need to get her bottle ready...

Night

Sarah

Sarahj
10-31-2005, 12:43 AM
Oh, by the way, Kierrasmommy...I tried the heat on Tala's legs and it seems to work well. She is doing much better today though. We gave her some Tylenol too but I try to limit medicines as much as possible. She did really well at family's today so hopefully she is feeling better.

Thanks,

Sarah

Boo Boo
10-31-2005, 10:30 AM
Hope you are all well,

Annaums tooth is develpoing well for an 11 week old!

Kierrasmommie, talking about crankpot! Annaum has been in a right grumpy mood these past two days. We went shopping for Eid and as l entered one of the dept stores she started crying out loud O.M.G l could have died of ambarassment, l could see all these posh little old ladies looking at me thinking '' young inexperienced mum''. I could not understand why she carrie don wailing the way she did, l fed and changed her before we went out? :( anyway l reckon she is not into shopping as in she doesnt like to go out and sit in her pram) she also cries everytime she is in the car seat? how can l overcome this?. She prefers to be in doors!!! lol

Anyway good news is that dd will be in bed f0r 10.30 pm which is great and will sleep through the nite till 8 am ish. She will cry/ groan a bit in the nite. I will try and make her ger ready for around 9.30 pm soon. Its soooo great.

Anyway l have brought her tooooooooooooo many clothes there all sooo cute! Anyone else facing this problem?

I still have to buy her cpt, can you believe she has only been in her basket for 11 weeks and the past weeks she has been really uncomfprtable and kicking the basket at all directions! lol :)

Boo Boo
10-31-2005, 10:36 AM
USP,,, SO GOOD TO SEE YOU ARE OK!! and your hectic life still appearts to be be HECTIC!

Kierrasmommie:) im soooo shocked to have heard about Kadens bowel disaster, gees l would have been scared! is everything ok?

Anyway ladies my hair is falling out not loads but alot anyone else noticed this, my hair is quite long and fine up till my elbows, when l wash my hair it falls off when l come it falls out, and what really makes me maad is my hair is all over Annaums clothes too!. anyway better get back to the house work!

kierrasmommy
10-31-2005, 03:35 PM
BooBoo, He is fine, it's normal to have a BIG amount of poop after going a few days without being so regular...be prepared you will have these diapers too. LOL...I was preparing all you Moms for it. LOL. Kaden does the same thing Annaum did...start screaming when I am in the middle of shopping for no reason, he just doesn't like sitting in his carseat for very long so I end up picking him up and carrying him as I try to steer the grocery cart and shop...it's always fun...I try not to shop without DH. My hair started to fall out a week or 2 ago, it's the hormones starting to return back to normal. when we were pregnant we had very little hair loss (as compared to normal) so now that our hormones are coming back down our hair is returning back to normal as well, it will continue to gradually fall out until your hair is back to what it should be.

USPS that outfit sounds SO CUTE! Where did you find it. I have Kierra all ready for Halloween, her hair is done and she has some of Mommies make-up on and a pretty crown, so I just have to put her princess dress and wings on and she is set. Just waiting for Kaden to wake up then once I have both kids dressed in their costumes I'll take a picture of them next to the pumpkin then we are going to my grandparents to show them their outfits and my neighbors, then after supper my sister and I are taking Kierra trick-or-treating, once we have 1/2 the street done DH is going to switch and I'll hand out candy while he finishes the street with Kierra.

Sarah, Glad she is doing better, Kaden goes for his needles on November 4th...and lucky me gets to have a tetanus shot as well, so Kierra is the only one getting off lucky with no needle...unless I decide to get her a flus shot...anyone else getting flu shots for themselves or older kids? You are lucky she is such a good car ride baby, Kierra used to be but Kaden isn't so happy about car rides.
Well, I should go, Happy Halloween! :jester: :angel:

S&J
11-01-2005, 01:06 AM
HI All!
Good to hear that everyone is doing fine :)
We just finished taking down the decorations...(don't want any hooligans taking anything!) My brother was here and helped "scare"the kids..him and dh were out on the lawn dressed up and would jump at the "older" kids and whoo hoo would they scream!lol...we made sure not to scare the little ones!
Troy was a caterpillar too..he had his 3mos pictures done at Sears a few days ago and we got one shot of him in his costume..but boy he sure didn't want his picture taken that day! Before the kids started coming around tonite we put Troy in his Bumbo chair in front of the pumpkins and took some pics! He was sooooo cute!

Troy sometimes will be fussy while shopping too so I make sure to bring my baby bjourn to put him in...he usually falls asleep right away...and then i put him back in the stroller when he's really sleeping.

booboo..i'm glad to hear that annaum is sleeping better for you!

Well..i hope everyone had a great Halloween and now it's time to look forward to Christmas! We're the same as you Kierrasmommy and have started shopping for gifts! :) That's my most favorite time of the year!!

Talk to you all later!
S :D

Boo Boo
11-01-2005, 07:15 AM
Hi,

well dd played havoc last nite she had some burping problems, she wa shungry but did not want to drink? mh dh made her burp at least 4 times l was quite surprised. I am going ot give her some water today too lots of it to help her digestive system. She nearly drove me mad last nite she did not go to sleep till 12.am ! she has been really good the past few days. Also l amon my second period since having Annaum and its really heavy and making me feel ill too so that does not help!.
:(

S&J
11-01-2005, 01:40 PM
Hi booboo

Troy was the same way last night..he's been sleeping great the last few weeks but last night he was up at 1am so i gave him his soother and he went back to sleep until 3am and then i fed him and it took a few minutes for him to get back to sleep and then he was awake at 6am and i fed him then...he slept for an hour and a half and was awake again at 7:30..so i put him in his swing and he slept until 9am and then he ate again!! I couldn't get him to really burp inbetween and after he eats..so he may have had gas problems too last night...i found to that if Troy doesn't burp for me i'd give him to dh and he would burp no problem....maybe it's their big hands that does the trick!

Well...i better get somethings done as troy is down for a nap!
talk to you all later!
s :)

kierrasmommy
11-01-2005, 02:41 PM
Hi,
Well, Kierra had a blast trick-or-treating lastnight. She was so funny...one lady asked her if she was cold (not likely with her heavy jacket under her costume as well as a long sleeve shirt, 2 pairs of pants and mittens) anyway, Kierra said, "No, I'm a Princess, I'm pretty" and she turned and walked off, the lady laughed. My sister and I took Kierra the first 1/2 of the street, I pushed Kaden in his stroller and he slept, then DH and my BIL took her the other 1/2 the street. We didn't get even 1/2 the kids we had lastyear so I have to return 2 bags of chocolates I didn't even open and DH is going to take some or our leftover candy to give to his staff at work...otherwise I will likely be tempted too many times to eat some! Although we did get rid of some of Kierra's already...I read in a magazine that a good way to limit the candy is to have the kids pick out what they want to keep (or keep 1/2) and all the remaining candy can be "traded" in for a toy, so my sister had bought Kierra 2 toys and traded candy for it. When we got home after trick-or-treating, if any kids came to the door Kierra about near mowed you down to get there first so SHE could hand out the candy. I took pictures of the kids too, Kaden was all smiles after he woke up so we got a cute one of him smiling.
S and Boo, sounds like your little ones are going through a growth spurt...or if you snuck a halloween treat or 2 that got into your breastmilk maybe that was what kept them up. So far Kaden hasn't really been affected by anything I eat. I try to limit caffeine, I don't drink coffee...I used to drink the Tim Hortons English Toffee Cappuchinos...but couldn't be bothered to get up and get ready and go get one and by the time we ever head out of the house I think it's too late in the day to drink it, so I have a tin of the home mix of the stuff but I only drink it early in the morning and only on days that I am so overtired I can't function...chocolate is the one caffeine habit I can't break. But Kaden doesn't seem to be affected by it...must be because I ate it throughout my pregnancy as well. I still try to limit it, I haven't eaten as much throughout my pregnancy and after he was born as I would have normally.
I started my first period on Sunday...but I think it was because I forgot to take my birthcontrol pill the night before and I didn't realize it until Sunday night. I've caught up but still am bleeding so I guess it'll run it's course....with Kierra I didn't get a period until after I had stopped breastfeeding her after she was 9 months old.
Well, I should go, Kaden just woke up. Talk to you soon.

Boo Boo
11-03-2005, 08:59 AM
Hi,

Ladies need some advice l got my period twice this month (october) the second time it only lasted 5 days and was heavy? l was hoping that once l had a baby my period pains would go away doesnt look like it? how is it for you ? l am not on any birth pills.

Any one else from August mommies had a c-section or emergency c- section?

thanks in advanced

S&J
11-03-2005, 03:23 PM
Kierrasmommy..I too have the caffeine habit! I didn't drink coffee during my pregnancy but as soon as i had him i went back....just to give me a get up and go in the morning!

Booboo- i haven't had my period yet....and am not looking forward to it when she comes! as i have the cramps as well... i used to just curl up with a hot pad on my back and tummy and just relax..but is that going to be possible now?? haha it doesn't look like it!!

well ds is crying with dh i better go see what's up!!
S :)

kierrasmommy
11-03-2005, 04:22 PM
Sorry Boo, can't help you out, I didn't get my period with Kierra until after I stopped breastfeeding her, and I just finished my first period since having Kaden but I'm sure it's because I missed one of my birth control pills and didn't realize it until the following night...they make low estrogen pills that you can take and still breastfeed. I probably wouldn't have gotten it had I been more careful. Maybe if you went back onto the pill it would help regulate your periods. I would ask your Dr. Are you breastfeeding occasionally still? If so ask for a birth control pill like mine that won't affect the baby or your milk.
Well, we go for Kaden's first needles tomorrow, and I get my tetanus and if I can get a flu shot at the same time I think I will. It was right around now after I had Kierra that I got a severe case of the flu and ended up having to go to the hospital after a few days and get IV fluids because I couldn't keep anything down, I was getting dehydrated and was worried about my milk drying up because of it. I think I'm going to get Kierra a flu shot as well, I watched a show a week or so ago with truth and myths of getting flu shots and it actually eased my mind about getting it for her as well as me. I told my Mom lastnight I have a feeling I will get teary eyed having to watch both my kids cry...mind you Kierra didn't cry the last time she had a needle so she may not cry but I'll feel bad hearing Kaden's cry, I got teary eyed with Kierra's infant needles, so I'm expecting to with Kaden as well. Any of you get teary eyed? It must be hormones. The other night I watched Amazing Race and the family with the 2 young kids got eliminated and the little girl was fighting tears so hard her poor little sad pouty face brought tears to my eyes...then it reminded me of my trip up to my parents place last month...I pulled over on the highway to stop Kaden from crying and as I got out and walked around the van Kierra woke up and didn't see me in the drivers seat and so by the time I opened Kadens door she had the hugest pouty lip and I looked at Kaden and he had a huge pouty lip too, it's kinda funny now when I think back and see both kids with their bottom lips sticking so far out, I wish I had a picture of it to remember...so here I am watching Amazing Race with tears in my eyes then I flashback to my 2 kids pouty lips and I burst out laughing, I was laughing and crying at the same time.
So, funny story to tell you...a couple days ago Kierra was watching her kids channel on TV and there is this show with a little boy who does all these neat things...anyway on Monday he was milking a cow, so I explained to Kierra what he was doing and that is where her milk comes from, so she asked if she can milk a cow too. So I said I'd see if I can find somewhere we could go and do that. The next morning as I was helping her get dressed she asked if we were going somewhere so I said yes, so she exitedly asked if we were going to milk a cow and I said no that I still had to find a place that would LET US... and she replied,"No Mom, not LETTUCE, cows eat grass" I burst into laughter it was so funny. Since then she has asked me about 20 times if we are going to milk a cow, so I have made a few calls and will see if anyone I know knows anyone who has a cow we can milk...I know they don't do it like that now days but it is a learning experience I'd like her to have since she is so excited about it. I honestly don't know if she'll touch anything but at least we can try and if all else fails she can watch her Mom milk it instead. LOL
Well gotta go Kaden is not wanting to be in his swing anymore.
Talk to you soon.

Laur77
11-03-2005, 04:39 PM
Hey guys! I took Logan to the public health unit today. He was 3 months yesterday, and is now 17 pounds, 26 inches. What a chunk. I also went to Wal-Mart to do some Christmas shopping for him and my neice who is 6 days older than him. What fun to not only have my little boy to shop for, but a girl too! It felt great to get out of the house. I said to my hubby last night, okay I don't remember the last time I was in a car, I think I need to go somewhere!!

kierrasmommy, lol, I almost cried watching the Amazing Race the other night too!! I loved that family, and thought it was so cool the way the parents encouraged the kids to do the challenges. Sad they are gone.

S&J
11-03-2005, 07:38 PM
laur77
Wow!! And i thought Troy was huge!!
Dh, Troy and I are going Christmas shopping this Saturday...next week it's my birthday and dh is taking me to a cabin in the mountains for a couple of days! I'm excited to go and it'll be Troy's first time in the mountains. After we come home we're going to put up our lights! Anyone else going to do that also? or am i crazy? :)

Troy still doesn't like his tummy time and hasn't even rolled to his side yet..anyone else whose baby's haven't yet?
Tomorrow night i'm going to a "stampin up" christmas card making party....without troy..he'll be at home with daddy. I have to say i'm a little bit nervous as everytime troy gets fussy dh will try everything.....so i do what dh just did and troy settles down. I've also always got the bottle ready for dh to give to troy when i want to pump...so dh will have to do everything on his own!! I'm sure he'll do great....I shouldn't have any doubts anyways....we'll have to wait and see!!

I thought your story about kierra was soooo cute! k'smommy! Children are wonderful!!

Well everyone talk to you all later!
Take Care!!
S :)

S&J
11-03-2005, 11:55 PM
i better eat my words about dh!
I'm taking an online course from the UofC and dh had Troy all to himself tonite...he's all bathed up..full..and sleeping!
What a wonderful daddy! I'm sorry i even had these thoughts!
ahhh :)

Laur77
11-04-2005, 03:53 PM
S&J
Logan has not rolled over yet either. He will occasionally roll from his back to his side, but that's it. He HATES tummy time too and gets so angry when we do it. I hope he'll get frustrated enough that he'll eventually flip himself over!!

kierrasmommy
11-04-2005, 05:07 PM
Hi guys,
Kaden had his needles today, he is 11 weeks old today and is 14lbs 9 1/2oz. He's still in the 90th percentile for his age...meaning only 10% of babies weigh more than him. He cried like it was the end of the world when he got his shots, I felt so bad (but didn't cry ;) ) and I didn't actually realize how loud he can cry until I noticed everyone turn and look when we walked back into the reception area. LOL. I had my tetanus shot...man I hate needles! But Kierra and I didn't get flu shots, we have to make an appointment for those so I will call next week.
And on the cow milking search I have had no luck as of yet, so I don't think Kierra will get to milk a cow. She is still asking to though.
Today the animated movie Chicken Little was released in theatres so I think we are going to take the kids to it on Sunday.
Kaden still isn't a fan of tummy time, I get the most tummy time out of him when I lay him on my chest, but on the floor I get about 5 minutes if he is in a good mood, I did however put him in his jolly jumper yesturday, he was a little crankpot and wanted me to hold him all day but I had things I needed to get done and he didn't want his swing or bouncy chair so I set up his jumper and he loved it, I wasn't sure if he was ready yet but he is extremly strong...at his 6 week checkup the pediatrician had commented that he was doing strength tasks that a 3-4 month old does...he held his head up straight the whole time and bounced a little, he has to figure that part out still, but he turned and looked around everywhere, I held his hands and helped him bounce a bit and he loved it.
Well, that's about it, I should go. Talk to you all soon.

firsttimemom
11-04-2005, 05:22 PM
Hi Everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It has been so long since I have been on here but I wanted to let everyone know I am back. My little one is 10 weeks old and 4 days now. How quickly it has gone!!! I can't stay but I will be back.

Boo Boo
11-05-2005, 12:29 PM
Good to hear from you first time mommie, glad to hear little one is well too.


Well Annaum is due for her second lot of needles on Tuesday, im going to take her with me on my own this time ! im not sure whether l should take he rin the car seat or just carry her to the nurse? PLEASE ADVISE?

I am going ot go to buy dd cot 2maro as she is begining to demolishes her basket! sometimes she sounds like the increb;e hulk!! she is 12 weeks on Monday and probably weighs about 13/14 pounds. Anyway thought l haf finished period a sl had no bleed for a day and then started a bit again? weird> yes l am breast feeding twice a day only.

kierrasmommy
11-05-2005, 11:16 PM
Boo,
I'd take her in the carseat, it gives you a place to sit her if you need a free hand. Sounds like she has been doing much better with her weight gaining now, that's great! I knew she'd catch up.
The birth control pills I am on are called "Micronor" it is safe to use while breastfeeding, it isn't 99.9% effective like regular pills but very close to it...we use condoms as well...sorry if TMI.
Well, my arm is killing me, that tetanus shot was a real bugger! I can't lay on it or put pressure on it, it hurts to stretch or lift stuff, even getting dressed this morning hurt. I am also achy and had a headache both of which are side effects of the shot. Well, I gotta go, Kaden is awake again. He too isn't so sparky, if his legs hurt like my arm I don't blame him.
Talk to you later.

petalz
11-06-2005, 05:28 AM
Hi August moms. My little girl was born August 19th. She has been drooling like crazy for the last month. It soaks her pjs and us. Is it possible she could be teething already?
Boo Boo I had a C section when I was in labour 36 hours and failed to progress past 8 1/2 cms.

Spanish
11-06-2005, 05:39 PM
Hello All! We've just got back from visiting the family and DD charmed everyone - smiling and cooing away. I was so pleased that she was just lovely with her grandparents and great-grandparents.

S&J: DD doesn't roll yet, but in the last couple of days she's started to throw one arm right over so that she's starting to roll up onto her side. She'll also wiggle her hips over but hasn't worked out how to do both at the same time yet. LOL. The reaching over is her new trick and she's trying to do it all the time, lying down, sitting up, on the changing mat, in her chair...suddenly changing nappies and getting her dressed is a bit more difficult because she's wiggling all the time!

Boo Boo: DD has also just got too big for her basket (she's 13lb 8oz now). She was smacking around in the basket, really bashing the sides and seemed to be waking herself up so we thought we'd try the cot. She's slept in a big cot for the last few nights and seems quite happy with it. She can obviously wiggle around much more because in the mornings she's often turned herself almost sideways!

Spanish

Boo Boo
11-07-2005, 10:21 AM
Hi all,

Petalz l just wanted to ask if you had an emergency c-section and if so has your stomach felt numb still? im still in pain now and then. its a bugger not been able to to go tthe gym, l have started to do some gentle arm exercises and want t go for a walk but l fret incase its too cold for dd? like today sun is out but its chilly outside, im going ot see if l can take her and just wrap her up warm. , dont now if ill recover from it, l keep having flashback accounts of my labour. It was AWFUL.

Spanish tell me about it the bashing!! l really want a cot bed but im thinking ht echristmas sales will be on soon and l know for a fact if l get one now it will be in the sales !! so im in dilemma do you all think l could let dd sleep in a travel cot for about 7 weeks?

Anyway better get back to house work whilst Annaum is asleep, l tell you that baby girl can go without sleeping for days!

kierrasmommy
11-07-2005, 03:55 PM
Petalz,
Our little ones have the same birthday! Kaden has been drooling and sucking or chewing on his bottom lip for a while now, I don't see any teeth yet though...but I remember our daughter did the same thing and she didn't get her first tooth until she was 9 months old...I'm hoping he gets his teeth late too, it'll make breastfeeding more enjoyable.
Hearing you and Boo talk about your labours/births made me think as well, in the back of my mind I have been dissapointed with Kaden's labor/birth as well...I mean I am happy I didn't have to have a c-section and I feel empathy for those of you who had to go through c-sections and the difficult recovery that follows. I was dissapointed to not have the epidural (not by choice...the anesthesiologist couldn't make it in time-he was in surgery), and I am dissapointed in myself because I wasn't in control of myself, I told my bestfriend who was there during the birth this and she said of course not, I went through natural childbirth! But I still feel dissappointed in myself, I wasn't myself at all during the labor, and I am embarrassed about that. A month or so ago I asked my husband if I yelled alot during the pushing stage and he said yeah, and I asked if I yelled loud enough for the rest of the ladies down the hall to hear and he said yeah...geez, he could have lied to make me feel better! I remember watching Birth Stories, or Baby Story and seeing some women scream and I never wanted to be like that. I don't remember much of Kaden's labour because I was so focused on the pain, I honestly don't even think I looked at anyone in the eyes (including my husband and bestfriend) for the last 2 hours of my labour. I remember getting mad at the nurses and telling them to take monitors off my belly and finger because they were irritating me, and saying, "Get out of there!" and pulling her hand away when she tried to do an internal during a contraction to see how dialated I was during one...I felt bad for the nurses and totally have respect for the jobs that they do, I can't imagine what they must be subject to day in day out...when I think back to Kierra's birth I was very happy with it, I had the epidural...after I had gone through around 12 hours of labour already...so I did experience that pain still and yes I was swearing during contractions in the shower before the epidural, but I didn't ever get to that point of yelling or screaming even during the pushing stage, I felt in total control, and I was very aware of all that was going on, it was calming to think of how well her labour was, I think that is why I am so dissapointed in Kaden's...because I know I was on the opposite side of the spectrum this time and I much rather prefered the other side. But in the end it is all worth it, and I would do it all over again, natural or not. Speaking of doing it all over again...we have discussed that we are done with our 2 kids. DH will be getting a vasectomy...if he stops procrastinating. We figure 2 is great because we have our boy and our girl, it is easier if we go places because we each have a kid to keep track of, and we can afford to do more things with 2 kids than we could with more...sports, trips, christmas etc. But there's something deep inside me that is silently mourning that we will never do this again. I mean I am 31 years old and DH is 37 so we aren't getting any younger to have more even if we wanted to, but I must have a very strong maternal instinct because I am scared that we are doing the wrong thing and that we are meant to have more...is this normal? I love being a mommy, and I feel cheated that they grow up so fast that you don't have the time to fully enjoy each and every second. Lastnight as I was holding Kaden I watched him sleep. His cute little mouth was wide open and he looked so peaceful and innocent, I had to do everything within my power to not kiss his cute little lips and risk waking him up. I will never be able to experience a new baby again...once Kaden is grown that is it? I have seen pregnant women and been envious of beng pregnant myself. I miss those little jabs and kicks and the miracle of pregnancy. Have any of you that are done baby making been feeling the same way?
Well, gotta go, Kaden just woke up.

Boo Boo
11-07-2005, 08:22 PM
I am soooo mad l have spent 10 minutes wirting emotionally about my emergency c section and l flipin deleted it somehow.

I was saying how traumatised l still feel about the whole birth thing l was pooping it real bad for the whole 9 months of my pregnancy and guess what l had one of the worst births, but l would not tell that to anyone. I hated being checked for dialation whilst having contractions, l hated being sick and vomitting and not being able to control my left leg whilst l threw up violently and being told by the midwife that my contractions were not regular.... l am furious that the hospital staff delayed my birth and that l had to have 3 midwifes who changed shifts who were looking after me, it was the surgeon who was a real arogant b------d. Although l work for the NHS not clinical though, l am shocked and disgusted by the way women are treated in birth emergency c section and the nasty wards they put us in with the toilet that did not flush :(

l hated having to feel like l needed to pee but when l went to the loo nothing would happen, l hated the fact that l could not sit on the toilet seat becuase of my contractions, l could not sit for 12 hours my back was killing and l was grunting and moaning. Finally l decided to take Pethadine, as my mum said i should take it as my dialtion was not progressing it was great for 1 hour l will never forget that rest l had... anyway im going to stop now, l just havient really been able to talk about it. Sometimes l think l ought to write like a checklist of what l experienced and how l felt for the next time !....

Well im going to move on ,, we went for our first family meal with Annaum last nite, it was nice, she was well behaved! well we did do a poo but that was it! However she hates sitting in her car seat and also tends to cry in the car. I thought she would get better but NO, anytips???

so l went to mama and papa and after a mission got a cot bed and matching zeddy and rubarb bedding. Then dh told me he's friend informed him of some warehouse where we could possibly buy these things for less price! so im noe madd, l have a pre boxed cot bed and accessories in my hall way which l may need to now return!! so frustrating, and the warehouse does not open till thursday so poor Annaum will haveto knock about in her basket for a further 2 days :( which she has now totally made it go out of shape! :)

So how is everyones christmas shopping going?

Boo Boo
11-07-2005, 08:23 PM
sorry for my baddddd spelling l was typing very fast, trust me l do know how to spell!

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx boooooo booooooooooooo

kierrasmommy
11-07-2005, 08:31 PM
LOL, Boo, you must be having a bad day. It feels good to vent doesn't it? Don't worry, no 2 births are alike, and now that you have experienced it once you will know what to expect and I found I was more involved with what was going on the second time round because I spoke up...the first time I didn't know what to expect and what was happening and just went along for the ride...luckily I had the epidural so it was an easy ride...having had such a difficult labour for your first time will probably make your next time a better experience...you will already be prepared for the worst so when it doesn't turn out that bad you will be relieved.
I have been getting a few things here and there for Christmas, Kaden and Kierra have a good start on gifts...but everyone else doesn't yet...LOL, it's easier shopping for your own kids. LOL
Well, I gotta go, supper is ready, talk to you all soon.

Sarahj
11-07-2005, 08:42 PM
Hi all, just thought I'd check in since it has been a while. Been busy with work these days. I actually had to work Saturday :-( We are preparing for Christmas shopping as well. I got a start this weekend with the kids. This weekend is our family pictures. We are giving pictures for Christmas for my family. My family loves pictures so there couldn't be a better gift.

Everyone talking about their labor experience also got me thinking about my own. I can only say I am glad it is over and glad I will not have to do it again. :-) I love my daughter and am quit happy with her and my boyfriend's other 2 kids. They live with us and we are already running out of room as it is.

Well, gotta go...talk to you all again soon.

Sarah

Laur77
11-07-2005, 09:36 PM
I am so excited! Logan just rolled over from his stomach to back for the first time! He was so close earlier today, so when daddy came home, I said, let's try again...maybe he'll do it while we're both here. And he did! Simple pleasures, I know!
Sorry to hear about your gals bad labour experiences. I have to say I had a really good experience (as good as a labour experience can be, lol!).
Well better go, have to get some packing done as we are moving into our new house this weekend. Can't wait! We built a house, and my husband did the contracting himself, so things have been pretty hectic the last few months. I don't really remember what he looks like!!

S&J
11-08-2005, 12:28 AM
Congrats laur77!

I was wondering how long Logan would stay on his tummy before he got mad? Troy only stays for a few minutes and then he gets mad and then i pick him up because i feel bad :( Did he just kick around and then roll? Troy doesn't do much kicking...he just lays there with his head up and looking around. I guess our day will come sometime!! Again..congrats!! and have fun moving into your new house!!! :)

I'm sorry too about your labour experiences.....i think i had a pretty decent one? I can't compare it to anything else i've experienced either....I had the epidural but it wore off right away..i think i had a half hour of some sort of peace....but then it was gone and then the bad contractions came and i had to push little Troy out natural...i had an episiotomy and tore as well. I hope the next time i'll remember what to do and ask for the epidural a little earlier!

Well....i better get going!
S :)

petalz
11-08-2005, 02:08 AM
Kierra, I'm not sure where you live. Was it a major storm during the birth? My husband and I were so out of it that we had no clue. My mom almost killed herself getting to the hospital. My Imogen was born at 4:58pm.

BooBoo I have to admit I was pretty doped up on the epidural and something they put in an I.V for the naseua so I don't think mine was an emergency c section. I do remember that they told me my daughter had her face up still and was high inside of me and they thought she was huge and stuck in me (she was 6lbs 130z). They also told me that I failed to progress past 8 1/2 cms with inducement medication(they only waited 30mins with the inducement meds and I doubt they gave it a chance). I also tested positive for strep b and was on antibiotics via a drip and an intern accidently popped my waters and I know infection can be a concern if left like that for to long.I never agreed to a c section technically. The new OB who came on after mine went home told me all the above and said to me I'd have to push 2 hours and talked to me about a c section. I told her that I was really tired right now and I'd have to think about it. My husband went to the waiting room to inform our family of what was going on and all some people came into my room and wheeled me into the O.R. My husband came back into my room and I was gone. He said he was told I was having a c section and he was to put his scrubs on. He told me later he was terrified that something was wrong with me and the baby. I remember lying in the O.R. being prepped and unable to speak. I remember trying to ask where my husband was. Finally someone in the O.R. went to get him. They had to keep talking to me to keep me awake. I am not to sure if being that out of it is normal. I remember hearing my daughter cry and than my husband sobbing from happiness.I was told later that I had lost to much blood. They had me so drugged that the day after the c section I asked them to cut my pain meds in half as I was so out of it. I will say that after 36 hours of labour - 12 of it with drugs that I was happy it was over. I told my husband I would have a second child if I could have a scheduled c section again. The pain of labour was incredible. I had severe pain in my back and hips. I remember at one point labouring at home that I asked my husband to please kill me and put me out of my misery (it included a lot more swearing) . The only time I got nasty at the hospital is in the way in to be checked I told them I wasn't going back home again ( I had started bleeding 48 hrs previous and was at the hospital and told to go home)unless someone gave me some pain meds. I am still having soreness in the area below my belly button.
Despite all that my favourite thing is holding my sleeping daughter cuddled up under my chin and liestening to her little sleep coos. Maybe I'm some kind of freak but I love the smell of her little head and the tickle of her soft hair on
my chin.

firsttimemom
11-08-2005, 10:19 AM
Wow, I can't believe all of the stories you guys have. I feel really guilty in saying that mine was a piece of cake. I had a scheduled c-section and never had the pain of having to go through labor. I like the part of everything being scheduled but I do feel like I missed out on a lot of things. I never had the experience of feeling what a contraction was. I am just gald to hear that after everyone's story the end result is basically the same. We all have healthy happy babies and there is nothing in the world better than that!

Boo Boo
11-08-2005, 12:07 PM
Thanks all for reading what we and l have had to say. Petalz im relieved to know someone else feels the way l do ( belly soreness) I too had group b strep and remembe rthe stupid nurse literally drilling a hole in my hand where loads of blood came out sick (sorry for tmi) it looked awful. Also my baby had pood inside too so when the midwife brokemy waters it was green.

Anyways glad to hear you are all well and busy bees, l have been tidying up paper work today as some of you know l have been tidying up etc alot these past 2 days and you know what there is still too much to do! l feel like l have not done anyhting!today has been a really miserable and dull day. l have a terrable headache and want to lie down, only l wanted to sort Annaums wardrobe out! she is asleep and we all know how we nee dto get our stufff doen when the little angels got o sleep :) lol we are like super women! :) Annaum poor thing had her second lots of jabs today too she is better now and did not cry too much l was quite surprised. Also went to pick up her portrait pics from mother care today she looked so cute in her winnie the poo yellow and orange photos, the idea is you get a real big portraite for £5 pounds l ended up buying the whole lot for £ 50 ouch!

Laur77
11-08-2005, 01:58 PM
S&J
Logan gets mad as soon as I put him on his stomach. Over time, he could push himself up higher and higher with his arms. At the same time he was rocking himself back and forth. So eventually last night, he had his chest lifted up, rocked, and flipped over! I think it kind of shocked him, lol. He didn't seem to realize what happened!! Just wait, it'll happen soon, and it is so exciting. I was laughing and going crazy...hubby thought I was a little crazy anyway I think, ha ha.

Spanish
11-08-2005, 06:46 PM
I was also disappointed with my birth experience. I was induced and started having contractions 2 minutes apart straight away but DD wasn't born for another 22 hours. DD was face forwards so added to an induction it was agony and I had no recovery time between contractions. I had an epidural and that helped for a while but it meant I had to have a catheter. I could just about stand up and was holding on to a table but when the midwife turned away I fell straight over onto my hip (because of the epidural I couldn't control my legs enough to break my fall!). Then I spent 1.5 hours pushing before being told I wasn't fully dilated after all. Another hour on a drip to try and dilate and then doctors decided baby's head was too swollen to push (because of being pushed against my cervix for 1.5 hours!) so I was taken to theatre where they had two attempts at ventouse and two attempts at forceps before she finally came out. I had an episiotomy (sp?) but still tore really badly right into my back passage. I'm very grateful that I didn't have to have a c-section because I was told it would be under a general anasthetic and I'd have hated to have missed her birth after all that. However I was still really disappointed with the whole experience - I felt really out of control, it was so much more painful than I had even imagined and when a midwife told me later that I should have been offered a membrane sweep and that if I had I probably wouldn't have had to be induced I felt so cross that it could have been a different experience altogether.

Boo Boo: You may find that it does help to talk about it. Before my labour I didn't imagine telling anyone the details but actually I felt I needed to talk about it and I was giving anyone who would listen a blow by blow account. After a couple of weeks and lots of going over the experience with my husband and family I seemed to come to terms with it and be able to forget about it. Ultimately it was worth it and I'm so very grateful to have a beautiful healthy daughter but I hope if we have more children it'll be a better birth experience.

Spanish

kierrasmommy
11-08-2005, 07:12 PM
Petalz,
No we had nice weather, I live in Alberta Canada. I'm glad it was nice too because we had a much better view with this labor...LOL, with Kierra the windows we had were up near the ceiling and we couldn't see out them, this time we had a beautiful view of a field with trees and nice sunny weather.
Spanish,
I had been dialating for weeks and contracting for months (they didn't consider them BH, because mine wouldn't stop..it was 24/7, they were regular and consistant, but just not strong enough) so I had my membranes swept and it didn't work and I ended up being induced a week later anyway...I had also tried castor oil, tons of walking and sex all right after the membrane sweep...so you may have still had the same experience. I'm glad we all shared how we felt about it all, I really only told my best friend how I felt deep down...I told friends about the labor but not how I felt about it. It does help talking.
Laur,
Thats great that Logan rolled, how old is he now? If Kaden is laying on his side already (like when I nurse him laying down) he turns his head and probably could roll, but he can't get on his side without help. I know it'll come, I heard boys seem to do things a bit later than girls...Kierra rolled really early I think at 9 1/2 weeks.
Well, we finally got our dishwasher installed...and now our furnace is acting up! If it isn't one thing, it's another....the pilot light is on but the furnace isn't kicking in. Good thing it's not hard core winter yet...and that we have a fireplace if all else fails, it's not cold yet but at night time when the temperature drops it could get cold but we'll use the fireplace if it hasn't been fixed by then...the service guy will be here anytime within the next 24hrs...and I called about 15 furnace repair places and they aren't any quicker either. Well, I should go...what a watse of a day...I had planned on going out today but I can't until we get the repair done. Well, take care everyone, talk to you soon.

Boo Boo
11-09-2005, 08:32 AM
Well, Annaum was onher tummy for 5 minutes and it was great, im going ot start her to do it more frequently. What l have noticed is that she doe not like to be alone in the room, so l have tried ot be clever by leaving radio/tv on sometimes it works!

Spanish, l think we have had similar experiences too, l hated having the catheter, and l had a membrane sweep and the oxctoycin drip nothing worked. You too are from the U.K., im from Brum.

Anyway have to go as l am going ot my post natal mums group and today we are doing baby yoga will let you ladies know how l have got on,, xxxxxxxxxxx

Spanish
11-09-2005, 08:48 AM
Boo Boo - I live in Norfolk now, but I used to live in Selly Oak. I actually had great care under the NHS (apart from the falling over) and the health visitors have been great since DD was born, I just didn't enjoy giving birth!

Has anyone got any tips on making tummy time easier? My DD will only tolerate about 1 minute and then she starts yelling. Also she almost always sicks up milk when I put her on her tummy, even if it's ages after feeding. If she doesn't sick up she has huge trails of dribble coming from her mouth! LOL. I keep trying but she doesn't seem to be getting any happier. She's not rolling yet and I wonder if she will be happier when she's the one whose put herself on her tummy?

I've run out of milk in the house today and I hate black coffee so I was quite tempted to try putting some of my expressed breast milk in my coffee. LOL! I didn't do it but it made me think has anyone actually tried tasting their milk? I wonder what it tastes like....?

Spanish

kierrasmommy
11-09-2005, 02:54 PM
LOL, I'm sure it would have worked fine, I hear it is sweeter than milk.
Well, we had the furnace guy come lastnight and I felt like an idiot...turns out our digital thermostat just needed new batteries! Darn thing should have a low battery signal...I didn't even know it ran on batteries in the first place! The people who lived here before us didn't leave the manual on the thermostat so I don't even know how to set it or anything.
Well, gotta go Kaden is mad.

kierrasmommy
11-10-2005, 12:05 AM
I keep forgetting to mention, in one of my parent magazines I read a cool tip that actually works really well, instead of eye make-up remover use baby shampoo...it is gentle and tearless so you won't get stinging eyes...my face wash was too strong for my eyes, it would dry the skin around them and sting my eyes too if I wasn't careful, and most of the time I still had racoon eyes when I got out of the shower, but now that I have been using a dab of baby shampoo instead it works well.
Well, I should go, Talk to you all soon.
P.S I found out my cousin had a baby boy yesturday...her first baby...10lbs 2oz! :eek:

Laur77
11-10-2005, 08:38 AM
I've tasted it. It tastes pretty sweet. It's not something I would want to drink a glass of! I never thought of putting it in my tea the other day when I was out of milk! I don't think I could have brought myself to do that, lol!!

firsttimemom
11-10-2005, 03:57 PM
My DS will only sleep if he is on his tummy. I have heard and read so many things about SIDS and babies sleeping on their tummy. I have purchased a movement monitor for his crib which gives me a little piece of mind but not totally. Does anyone else have this problem and if so, what should I do?

Laur77
11-10-2005, 11:06 PM
When we were kids our parents were told to put us on our stomachs to sleep! We all turned out okay. The risk is actually very low of something happening. I have that monitor as well, and I love it. It helps me sleep better at night!

kierrasmommy
11-11-2005, 02:15 PM
Kaden prefers to sleep on his belly if he is laying on me, but at night he prefers to sleep on his sides or back in his bed.
Well, nothing is new. So I'll come back in a day or 2. Talk to you soon. Take care.

S&J
11-12-2005, 12:06 AM
I have that monitor too...i find that i sleep a bit better as well.
Dh took Troy and I for a couple of nights at a cabin in the mountains for my b'day...we took his playpen with us for Troy to sleep in..well I thought it would be great for Troy to sleep in the bedroom with us but i never realized how loud a sleeper he is! I'm very scared of sids so i kept him in our room so i could hear him (because we didn't bring a monitor) and thought i might get a good sleep..which didn't happen..what did happen the next night was we put him right outside our door..we both got a little bit better sleep but not much!!

Troy still hasn't rolled any which way yet....but I'm getting better at not comparing him to other babies! i know his time will come!

For those of you moms who live somewhere cold..what do you put over your baby at night? like a blanket? I've tried a blanket and i used to just tuck it under Troy's sides when he was smaller but then i got scared that he might kick it over his face so i ended up tucking the blankets tightly under his mattress..I found that he really likes to kick and the blanket ends up off him.....i'm putting him to sleep with a thick sleeper which he seems to be the right temperature but what about when i put him a thinner sleeper? Maybe i should just buy somemore thicker sleepers and just use them..well i think i just answered my own questions! lol :)
oh yeah i did buy that fleece zip up blanket thing from babies r us..but don't like that it fits so snug around his neck so i don't use it.....i also have another one that i could try..i'm just worried that i'm going to overheat him! I do turn down the thermostat to like 18...hmmm....oh well
Well....i hope you're all doing fine and check on you later!

S :)

kierrasmommy
11-12-2005, 05:16 PM
Hi S,
I bought one of those portable room heaters for Kierra's room for during the winter, it had all the safety features so I wasn't concerned it would overheat or tip over and start a fire. Otherwise I dressed her warm and I too tucked the blanket in at the foot of her crib s it wouldn't cover her head and she wouldn't kick it out.
Well, I gotta go Kaden is calling again.
Talk to you later.

S&J
11-12-2005, 06:06 PM
last night i had troy in a thick sleeper and when i feed him at 4am he had a little damp spot on his side...i know it wasn't pee....i had the thermostat down and the house was cool..i guess he's a hot baby! needless to say i'm not using that sleeper anymore because this is the 2nd time he's sweated in it.
talk to you later!
S :)

Sarahj
11-12-2005, 07:56 PM
Well, Tala got her first haircut today. Her bangs were hanging down to her eyes so it was time. Tomorrow is picture day so I thought it was a good time. Her Grandma cut it for me since I am not about to come close to my 3 month old with sharp sissors. She did pretty well considering most kids don't need a haircut this early.

S&J Tala runs hot when she sleeps so I rarely worry about her getting cold. I usually just put her in a sleeper so her feet are covered. She kicks her blankets off so it is a waste of time to cover her.

Well, nothing else to tell you all...I'll check in another time.

Sarah

S&J
11-13-2005, 05:29 PM
I'm glad to hear that Troy isnt the only one that gets hot! Last night he was in a thin sleeper and i had the house cooled down and i was in my pj's and had 4 blankets on! I was concerned that he was going to freeze!..but he must have been just right because he didn't get up until 6:45am!
I'm not looking forward to his 4mos shots at the end of this month! Mind you he wasn't any different after his 2mos shots....dh couldn't come with us last time but he's coming this time! I felt so bad for Troy! I didn't cry but sure was close..i was trying to be strong for Troy :) I was very shaky and lightheaded after he had them tho!
Well...i better get going!
talk to you all soon!
S:)

Kiedy
11-13-2005, 07:44 PM
S&J

My son sleeps in a fleece pouch, it closes at the shoulders. It's great b/c it has some room for him to move his legs and doesn't keep him too hot. I also don't have to worry about him covering his head w/ it. You can find one at every big store. Underneath it I just put him in cotton sleepers. It works well, he never sweats in them.

I'm not looking forward to his second vaccinations, I cried the first time and had to leave the room, good thing my DH was w/ me. Hopefully it'll be easier this time.

My DS has ALMOST turned over last night. I say almost b/c his whole body flipped over, except his one shoulder was stuck underneath his big heavy head. He was soo frustrated, it was soo cute. It started couple of days ago, in his crib, where he would just arch his back and go on his side, and last night he actually flipped his legs over.
So that was exciting.
Hope you all are doing well.

kierrasmommy
11-14-2005, 03:23 PM
Kaden rolled over! :bouncing: I put him on his jungle playmat this morning (since we haven't had much time to do that in in the last week or so) and I was laying on the floor keeping him company. And after a few minutes I positioned his arms and helped him lean into a roll to show him how it's done, then I rolled him back onto his tummy and over he went again on his own, I wasn't sure if he actually did it it caught me so off guard, so I rolled him on his tummy again and he rolled again...but a couple minutes later I got the camera out to try and video tape him rolling and he wouldn't do it again. He also seems to have the crawling instinct in him, when he is on his tummy he tries so hard to crawl, he brings his knees up and everything...he doesn't support his butt up in the air with his knees, but he kinda brings his knees up on the sides as if he is trying to crawl....kinda like an army crawl I guess. He seems to want to stand all the time too, he is happiest when you let him standup and look at you...he likes his exersaucer alot now, (I roll a blanket and position it in the seat with him for extra support, he actually plays with the toys on it by swatting them, and he likes his jolly jumper too. But he is hard to keep sitting...bathtime is always fun since he fights sitting and tries to stand. I have started scrapbooking last week, I have wanted to for a long time but never had time to start it, I am working on Kierras right now since I had a bunch of pictures ready for it, it is so much fun to see a completed page. I do it right after Kierra goes to bed so she doesn't want to get into it as well.
Gotta go Kaden is getting cranky, time for a nap.
Take care. Talk to you soon.

Spanish
11-14-2005, 05:58 PM
Hello All

DD sleeps in a baby sleeping bag. The ones I have close with a popper over the shoulders and don't have sleeves, but you can get them with sleeves if you want. They are absolutely fantastic because she can't kick it off and get cold, there is no way that she can get in over her face and she has plenty of room to kick about if she wants. Also when I feed her in the middle of the night I just pick her up in the sleeping bag, feed her and put her straight down. She stays nice and warm and doesn't get disturbed and I don't have to worry about positioning her in the cot I just put her down anywhere. I'd highly recommend sleeping bags if you haven't tried them.

DD is not really showing any signs of rolling over but she wants to stand up all the time. If she's lying on her back and I try to pull her to sitting she just goes rigid so that she comes right up on to her feet! She can support her whole weight you just have to keep a hand on her for balance. I think I'm going to get one of those bouncers that fit in the door frame so that she can boing about without me having to hold her up.

Spanish

Boo Boo
11-15-2005, 11:20 AM
Hi,

Well its been ages seen l have lasted posted dd has kept me so very busy. Good to hear you all.

Spanish l live in Hall Green.

Well we have finally got Annaums cot bed and she likes it alot, especially the musical mobile. Infact she likes it so much that she can kick the Zeddies and Rubarbs !! lol honestly l was soo shocked about 2 days ago she was raising both legs really high and then kicked it was amazing, so l shortened the dangly toys and guess what she can still reach and it is not if they were really low? weird? Also discovered that she moves about, for example l put her in her cot in the foot end position and then at 5 am when l checked on her she had turned like a full 360 degree to the other end?wow well she has continued to do this. My only worry is that she may get cold she does not stay in her blanket at all and kicks it off, she is too small for a baby grow bag too. So dh is thinking of getting a portable radiator heater for her!

Oh and l discovered another way of occupying her whilst l can do the house work, l put my wedding film on ! lol she recognises daddy not sure about mummy though ! :(

l have been slacking with tummy time for Annaum but will try to start again, my sister in law saw Annaum roll toher side whilst she was lying on the sofa at my inlaws!

I want to buy Annaum a play mat not sure whether l should get her the ring or flat play mat? any suggestions? although she likes to lie down and kick her legs alot?

Well l think Annaum had light exzema, she had this dry rash on her tummy and then on her legs and at the back of her legs where there are creases her skin seemed cracked. Although l did use oil it did not seem to work so the doc had told me to be very strict in ensuring l apply the ointments given there are no steroids in them. I am a bit upset although l know alot of babies get this and it does actually clear up. im not sure how she got it? apperently you can get it if the baby is in a warm room, has toomany clothes on too? Help?

Take care all better get back to tidying up Annaums wardrobe and then the pile of ironing all of which are dd :(

kierrasmommy
11-15-2005, 01:46 PM
Spanish I love the jolly jumper, I can get about a 1/2 hour or more of stuff done with Kaden in it, I have the dorrframe one and I bought the portable type off a friend of mine so I tend to use the portable one so I can bring him so he can still see me.
Boo, I've seen some floor mats that seem like a cushion, personally I think the flat mats are better, and the square ones seem to have more space for them to play on. I think Kaden has a bit of excema on his forehead, he had some dry flakes on his scalp too, but not thick like craddle cap, it just looked like th top layer of his skin was flaking off like dandruff...I have the dry scalp under control and the excema is getting better too, I just started using an Aveeno baby lotion they had 2 types and one mentioned it was good for excema and you can apply it all over their body on babys face as well.
Well I gotta go, Kaden wants out of his swing.
Talk to you later.

S&J
11-16-2005, 01:21 PM
Kiedy..that's awesome that your ds almost flipped over! Soon he'll be right over! Let us know as soon as he does!

Kierrasmommy..congrats on Kaden rolling over! Is he still doing a lot of it!

Booboo--i should try put our wedding video on too! I have a flat plat mat that i put Troy on...he just lays there and kicks his arms and legs around..not reaching for anything yet...hopefully soon!

Spanish..Troy is the same..not showing any real signs of wanting to roll or even moving during his tummy time....i hope in the next month or so he'll start doing stuff...he likes to stand and holds his head up great..and a few times i've gone into his room and he's moved down a few inches from where i layed him!

Is anyone done Christmas shopping yet? And what do you buy your little baby? We're thinking of getting that dinosaur play thing...it's for 6mos+..it looks fun!
Well i hear Troymoving around from his nap..talk to you all soon!
S :)

Boo Boo
11-16-2005, 07:51 PM
Hi,
Well glad all is well Annaum has not done any rolling over in fact she is very grumpy today and is not settling dowm to sleep. She has had her feed and nappy changed dont know what else to do ? its nearly midnite........................ :( she is crying so l have given her gripe water.

Well Annaum and l went to our post natal group where the book people came and highlighted the importance of introducing the babies to books via libraries. So l will try and enrol dd to the local library where they are very good at lending books and even if you are overdue on them they will not charge. Annaum now weighs 12.9 ounces and she is 3 months and one week what do your babies weigh? thanks.

kierrasmommy
11-16-2005, 08:45 PM
S&J,
No Kaden hasn't rolled over since then, we haven't had time to play on the floor since that day so he hasn't had much chance, but this morning when I layed him on his belly to snap up the back of his diaper shirt (the 3 snaps down from the neck) he brought his leg up right under him so his butt was in the air a bit...if he had both legs up he would have had his butt up. I think he is going to crawl sooner than Kierra did, she was a late crawler, I'd have to check her baby book but we were almost sure she'd walk before she crawled. I'll let you know next time I post how old she was...wait...my book is still down here...she was 9 1/2 months old when she started crawling. And 15 months old when she walked alone, she'd walk with help from 6 months on, but unassisted wasn't until 15 months and I tricked her by bribing her with cheese to get her to walk that time. LOL.
Boo,
Sometimes Kaden is like that and the only thing that will settle him is cuddling with Mommy...he'll just lay thre and stare at me for the longest time then fall asleep.
Speaking of falling asleep, how long do your babies nap for each time? It seems like Kaden doesn't nap for very long at a time unless I am holding him, but I don't want to get him used to that habit. I'm going to keep track of his sleep and awake cycles for the next few days and ask the pediatrician the next time I see him to see if that is normal...I want to try and get an appointment next week or later this week if they can squeeze me in, I want him to check Kaden's soft spot, I just think his soft spot seems so small I worry that it will cause problems...he wasn't concerned last time I mentioned it though.
Well, gotta go Kaden is bored and I have to start making supper. Talk to you all soon.

Sarahj
11-17-2005, 10:44 AM
Hello all...

Tala has picked up a cold :-( She seems to be handling it well though. Still sleeping through most nights in her swing. She can't breathe when I lay her flat so it works out to put her in her swing.

Kierrasmommy: Tala naps for an hour usually. She doesn't take naps during the day at day care. We give her one nap sometime between 5 and 9 and then down for the night around 10 pm. She sleep in her swing for naps usually.

Boo Boo: Tala was weighed yesterday and she weighed 13 lbs 9 oz. She is also alittle over 3 months. Have you had any luck with the gripe water?

S&J: I haven't started Christmas shopping yet, but I pretty much know I am going to get her a bouncey chair. She has one at daycare and loves it. How old is Troy now?

Well, talk to everyone later.

Sarah

Spanish
11-17-2005, 05:51 PM
Kierrasmommy: DD isn't very consistent with naps, some days she'll take three or four 45 minute naps and then she has days, like today, when she had one sleep of 3 hours in the middle of the day. I actually woke her up from that one because it had been 6 hours since she fed and I was starting to get worried that I was going to be up all night feeding her. She's been an absolute horror to put down tonight, between DH and I it's taken nearly 2 hours!!! It all seems quiet for now but I have a nasty feeling that the lack of eating during the day means I'll be up and feeding her at 2am....I'll let you know!

Spanish

kierrasmommy
11-17-2005, 07:00 PM
Well, Sounds like maybe Kaden is napping normal then, I just figured he should nap for longer, Kierra was always such a good sleeper/napper, I guess I thought she was the norm.
Kaden slept for 5 1/2 hours lastnight! Yaaaaaaayyyyy! And the night before he did 4 1/2 hours so maybe this is a start to longer night sleeping. I woke up after 5 hours lastnight and checked on him because I am so used to him being up before that I got worried. It's always the first stretch of sleep that is the longest...lastnight it was 5 1/2 hours then 3 hours then 2 1/2 hours.
He laughed again lastnight, I was dressing him and pretended to gobble up his chest and neck and he laughed a couple times. I can't wait until he laughs more easily and for longer. For Christmas I think we are going to get Kaden a toy that he can play with on the floor, but that converts to a ride on toy then to a walking toy. I got him some toys already...I think they are the things that go in that dinosaur toy that someone mentioned they were going to get, they are clear balls with animal toys inside, I also got the square ones that are the same but with sports theme toys inside. And I'm sure we'll get him some learning toys and some clothes too. There's not alot he needs because I had alot of the stuff already from Kierra like the excersaucer, bouncy chair, jolly jumper, toys, etc.
Has anyone decided when they'll start cereal with their little ones? They say 4 months old is best, but when Kierra was a baby I remember reading that you can start a bit earlier if they are doing a # of tasks that they had listed, but I don't remember where I read it, and all of the tasks, I know holding head up steady was one, and shows interest in food when we are eating I think was another...I don't know I can't remember, but I checked and Kierra was 14 weeks old when I started her on runny rice cereal, and I wrote "she liked it and would get excited when the spoon was coming". I think I'll ask the pediatrician when I get in next...which reminds me I have to go call and see if I can get him an appointment! TTYL

Kiedy
11-18-2005, 02:39 AM
You guys are bad, I don't check the board for couple of days, and there is like 10 entries for me to read, it's hard to keep up, lol
S&J: ...done Christmas shopping?? haven't even started thinking about it, it seems kind of early for me to get into it this year, but I did buy 3 Santa soxs (gosh, is that what you call them??), one of course for our little guy. My DH who is jewish even decided to get into it, usually he celebrates w/ me only b/c i'm catholic, but this year he's into it more, asking me what we need for christmas. It's cute.

Kierasmommy; I'm at the same stage, wandering when I should start my DS on rice cereal, I think I'll do more reading on the net, I'll let you know what I find out. Good for you about the 5.5 hr sleep stretch. My DS last night had the best sleep ever. He slept from 9pm to 6am, without waking up even once. I COULDN'T believe it. He usually wakes up at 2am for pacifier, and in the last couple of weeks he started waking up at 12 for feeding again, and 2 or 3 for pacifier, and last night out of the blue he just slept all night. That's 9 hrs, I still can't believe it. Of course I spent all night doing 3 months worth of ironing and didn't go to bed until midnight, so when he woke up at 6 I was exhusted, so I put him in the swing and he slept until I woke up at 11:25 am, at which time I woke him up. You all know what this means, he will be up every 3 hrs tonight ... I'll let you know tomorrow.

Oh, someone was asking about our kids weight, my DS was 16lbs and 26inches, on October 21 ( at almost 3month), I will know his new weight next week when he goes for his 4mo shots. He has to be heavier, I can bearly lift him up in the air.

Well, talk to you girls soon, I'm happy to see that our kids are doing soo well (Ohhh, the dog is sleeping on DS's play mat agian, ...drives me crazy, lol)

Spanish
11-18-2005, 10:14 AM
Well I wasn't quite right when I said she'd be awake at 2am....it was 2.10am!!! LOL! :rolleyes:

S&J
11-18-2005, 01:58 PM
Lol @ kiedy! DH and I absolutely LOVE Christmas and we start shopping in August..just buying a few things at a time so we can enjoy most of dec wrapping presents...making cookies..sending cards...we started putting up our lights a few days ago since the weather has been nice! :) We still need to buy Troy a Christmas stocking. That is cute that your dh is getting involved with your Christmas celebrations!
I had Troy weighed a few days ago and he was 16lbs 14oz and was 26 inches.
He still isn't rolling any which way yet...tummy time still is short...I'm still trying not to be concerned but i know his time will come!!!(i hope :) )

Troy is sleeping better at nights too..the last few nights he's been going to sleep at about 9-9:30...and waking up at 6-7am! I of course don't sleep that long because i'm waking up to make sure I hear that "tic" from his baby monitor.

Kiedy- our dog *eyes* troys playmat too..but she knows not to lay there! haha!

Kierrasmommy- i was wondering about rice cereal too..i read in a mag that when they can sit in a high chair....or they watch you eat and is interested in it....and there were a few other things too, but i forget! I think i'm going to start that when Troy is 6mos?

Well good to see all is well!
talk to you soon!
S :)

Laur77
11-18-2005, 02:42 PM
Hi guys,
We got all moved last weekend, and now getting all caught up on the messages in-between cleaning and unpacking.
My doc says cereal at 4 months and solids at 6 months (if everything is going well). Hopefully we'll get the go-ahead when he goes for his 4 months shots in early December to start cereal. I can't wait! He already eyes my food. This morning I was holding him on my lap as I ate my cereal and he stared into the bowl the whole time! I think he was entranced by the Cheerios floating around. Then he grabbed the spoon when I was done and tried to put it in his mouth, so I think he is ready!
My dog likes Logan's mat too. He knows he's not aloud to lie on it, but he wants to so bad I had to give him his own blanket! Now he is happy and doesn't try to lie on Logan's anymore. My friend told me when I was pregnant that the dog would become a nuisance once the baby came. I said, no way! But...now I feel that way sometimes. Mostly just because the dog is on my heels every second! He follows me everywhere. As soon as I pay attention to Logan he sits as close as he can and STARES at me. If I pick up a toy to play with Logan, the dog runs and gets his toy and sits right by us. Mostly it is cute, and I feel bad for the guy as he was once our only baby, but somedays it gets really irritating! Well, I'll have to go back and read all the posts from the last few days a little better, just scanned them so far! Seems our thread is the most popular!

Kiedy
11-18-2005, 04:32 PM
Christmas stocking...that's what it is, I just blanked out last night.
S&J, I usually love Christmas too, and want to put up the tree in November, oh, and I keep it up until end of January. For some reason I'm just not as excited this year, I don't know why. Time goes by so quickly, it seems like it was just my birthday in Sep, our anniversary in Oct and my DH's birthday is end of Oct, so it seems like we just finished celebrating. I guess I'm not looking forward to having to figure out ANOTHER gift for my husband either...

Luar77, I must say no one usually is excited about moving but I must say, I envy you. My DH and I have been looking for a house for long time now, so prospects of moving would be very exciting right now. Your story about your dog made me laugh. I can totally relate. When I first got pregnant, nothing irritated me more than my usually lovable dog. Absolutely everything she did would drive me crazy, only recently has it gotten better, I feel more like myself. I'm just surprised that she still likes me.

Right now I feel like I'm in a monestary and my son is the buddah. We sit on the sofa and alternate w/ our chanting:
my son- ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
me- ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
my son - ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
me- ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
you get the picture, lol :wave:

kierrasmommy
11-18-2005, 07:50 PM
LOL Kiedy, Kaden and I have the same conversations!
I bought Kaden his Christmas stocking last year before we even got pregnant...I wanted all of us to have matching stockings so I bought 4 and had Kierra's mine and DH's embroidered with our names...I have been thinking in the last week or so I should dig out Kaden's and get his embroidered now too.
My best friend put up all her Christmas decrations and tree last weekend. LOL, I think I'll do ours the last week of November...DH is starting to put up the outdoor lights this weekend though.
Kaden didn't sleep so well lastnight...I'm almost convinced it's because I was so excited and told you all...he must have some sort of ESP, because both times I got excited about his sleeping and mentioned it to you the very next night he was horrible. LOL
Well, I went shopping again today and now have 2 outfits to wear to my DH's Christmas party! I liked the first one but wasn't sure it was dressy enough and DH liked it but I would have prefered a bigger reaction to it, so I went out and bought a sexy black dress with a small diamond square of black sequins by the right hip, so I'll return the first outfit...I'm glad because the first outfit was going to be harder to find outfits for both kids and DH to match...it had aqua, pink, army green and cream embriodery on it and it seems like all the dressy kids outfits are the Christmas reds and stuff, so me wearing solid black will help. I'm going to go tonight after dinner and find their outfits, there's a place called "The Childrens Place" and they have the cutest stuff at reasonable prices.
Well, I should go, Talk to you all soon.

Boo Boo
11-21-2005, 04:43 PM
Hi all,

I can not beleive how much you guys are posting, flippin heck it takes me ages to catch up! lol :)

Kierrasmommie, Annaum hardly naps at all but soemtimes lm really lucky as she wont wake up till 11 am and thats if she has fallen asleep at 11 pm at nite, sometimes she will have her morning feed and then go to sleep for 2 hours however, its rare now that she willnap for 1 - 2 hrs straight?

Sarah- Grip water is great, dd not to kean on it though!

DD likes sleeping in her cot, but l still have problems trying ot get her to sleep early like 8 pm straigh ttill the next day perhapes she is too young? what do you think?

Well dd is nearly 13 pounds she really has slowed down her weight its been like 3-weeks and she has not put much weight on she is now 3 months and two weeks. I got her tooth checked out today and l think there may be another one coming as l can see some whiteness on her gum. I have to keep an eye on her tooth incase it does start to wobble. The dr has reffered dd tothe childrens hospital so they can see too. I would hate for dd to have to have them taken out as she is too young. Well l guess we will have to wait and see. Im looking forward to taking dd to see the christmas lights. DD also now can turn and lean on her side! I am alsoi reading to her and she loves to turn the pages. I am also doing some baby yoga with her its fun, l would advise it for you mums who have not trie dit yet. Any way bette rgo and have my soak in the bath! :) take care all

Kiedy
11-22-2005, 03:17 PM
boo boo,

I've read that you should adjust your baby's night time sleep by 15min every couple of days. If she normally goes to bed at 11pm, try putting her down at 10:45 for couple of days, then 10:30 and so on. My DS used to go to bed at 9pm, took me a week to get him to go to sleep at 8pm. I find that now that he is going to bed earlier he sleeps much better than when he went to bed at 10pm or later. Also he naps better too. Try working on earlier bed time first though, one thing at a time, right?

kierrasmommy
11-22-2005, 04:05 PM
Hi,
Well we had Christmas pictures taken on Sunday, we all wore black, red and cream, it looked really nice, but man it was hard to get both kids to look the same direction and smile at the same time.
We haven't had much tummy time lately so Kaden hasn't rolled from his belly to his back since that one day, but lastnight I layed him on the middle of my bed with his head elevated on a pillow and he tried to roll onto his belly, he was turning his head so far it was so close.
I think they start slowing down thier weight gains around this time because they are eating less often, and are more active, so they burn off more between feeds. Kaden has a Dr appointment next week so I'll see how much he weighs now. He has a very dry scalp right now...not cradle cap though, just dry flaky skin. I only wash his hair every 2nd or 3rd day now and I put Aveeno Baby lotion for dry skin on his head but it doesnt seem to want to go away.
Boo, I think it may be early still for our little ones to sleep through the entire nights, their teeny stomachs are onlt the size of their fist so it won't keep them full for very long. Kierra was an abnormally great sleeper but she started sleeping for 8 hrs straight the end of Februaray when she was just over 6 months old, In May (9 months old)she was regularly going to bed at 9pm and would wake at 7am for a feeding then sleep for another 3 hours.
Kaden isn't too fond of gripe water either, Kierra used to love hers though, a friend of mine said to experiment with brands because sometimes the different brands taste different.
Well I should go I want to go get some Christmas shopping done today. Talk to you all soon.
Oh! I read in my little Baby & Child Care Encyclopaedia that the OBs office had given me that some of the hints that baby is ready for solids are:
*holds own head up
*can sit with or without support
*likes to put things in his/her mouth
*makes up and down chewing motions
*breastfeeds more than 10 times per day, or drinks more than 40oz of formula
My Enfalac nutrition chart says 0-4 months is breastmilk and formula only, then 4-6 months you can add single grain cereals, then at 6 months solid baby foods can be added.
K Kaden is ready for a nap so I have to go, Talk to you all soon.

Kiedy
11-22-2005, 04:18 PM
kierrasmommy

Oh, I''m so happy you listed the ways to tell if baby is ready for cereal, I knew most of them, except I could not tell how much he was eating since he is breastfed, so I'm glad you said 10 times or more. This I didn't know, I will count now. thanks

kierrasmommy
11-24-2005, 04:45 AM
You're welcome...I went shopping and bought cereal for Kaden so after his pediatrician appointment next week, if he has the go ahead, I can start right away...they have alot more selection than they did when Kierra was at that stage and that was just 3 1/2 years ago...anyway Nestle has a "starter" cereal which is easiest to digest for first timers, then they go into stages after that and it lists how old they should be on each stage...example stage 1 was 6 months so I'm assuming starter is around 4 months.
Kaden has been doing something else that my DH neglected to tell me...today I dropped off Kaden at my sisters so I could take Kierra to her first dentist appointment (which went really well) and when I got back, my sister was really excited to show me that when she layed Kaden in a semi reclined position and held her arms out to him and said come here, he'd tense up and try to sit up, so tonight I showed DH and he said Kaden had been doing it for awhile, he would hold him semi-sitting and Kaden would try to sit up more straight. DH even tried to show me and sure enough Kaden made himself sit up further...I even tried to sit Kaden on the couch tonight and get a video of his quivery lip thing he does and he was forcing himself to sit up so I had to keep pushing him back and or catching him. He is also doing really good at playing with his toys on his boucy chair or his exersauser now, he more or less hits them to make them make noise, I also have a stuffed frog that I slipped between the wall and his change table and he is always trying to hit that guy, he even gets mad I assume because he is trying to grab hold of it and haven't quite figured that part out yet.
Kierra and Kaden had thier picture taken with Santa today too, Kaden couldn't have cared less...which is total opposite of what Kierra was like when she had her first Santa experience, her first Santa pic she is screaming her head off, she had started playing strange already, which makes me wonder if that stage is soon to come within the next couple weeks with Kaden...Kierra and his birthdays are only 10 days apart so that would mean any day now if it is an age related stage.
Any of your babies started playing strange yet?
Well, I should go. I have a busy day tomorrow then DH's Christmas party Friday then a seminar on Saturday so I should really get some sleep.

kierrasmommy
11-24-2005, 02:06 PM
oops double posted.
I typed all my stuff lastnight but when I tried posting it it was taking forever so I just logged off and came back on this morning to post but I guess it still posted me anyway...weird because when I clicked on the thread it said Kiedy was the last to reply not me! LOL
And there is a 3 hour time difference between what the computer says and what it actually is here...so it always looks like I get no sleep because I'm typing at 2 or 4am, but in actuality our time is 3 hours before the Healthboards computer time.
K, I gotta go now so talk to you all soon.

Spanish
11-24-2005, 03:29 PM
Hello All

I hope you are all well and your babies are happy. My DD is just sooo cute at the moment. She's really finding her voice and spends hours aaahhing and oooing. A couple of times I've woken up in the night and I can hear she's awake not because she's crying but because she's cooing away to herself. Last night DH and I just lay there for 20minutes chuckling at the sounds coming through the monitor. Mind you it would have been even more cute if if hadn't been 2.30am!! LOL! As of today she's found a new noise. She says her normal 'Ahhh' and then blows a rasberry, so we get a lovely 'ahh-bleugh' sort of noise. It makes me laugh so much.

DH is downstairs giving her a bottle of expressed milk at the moment. We are trying to get her used to taking a bottle so that I can go out occasionally. Mmmm I'm really looking forward to that! Also so that we can leave her with her grandparents and DH and I can go out for a meal of something together.

Is anyone else having weird sleeping problems? DD was going on average 9pm to 5am (she's 15 weeks old now) but suddenly in the last week she's started waking up around 2am for a feed and then again at around 6am. After that she goes back down until about 9am. I am completely exhausted. Sometimes I think it's because she's got herself twisted around and has her head against the cot bars. I guess that wakes her up and then she decides shes hungry (I do try settling her without feeding but it doesn't work). But other times I have no idea why she's decided to start waking up in the middle of the night again. Sigh!

It sounds lovely and quiet downstairs so hopefully the bottle is going well. I think I'll go down and check.....bye for now.

Spanish

Laur77
11-24-2005, 03:54 PM
Logan has really found his voice as well. Sometimes he likes to scream at the top of his lungs. But it's not an "I'm upset scream", it's a "hey, I've got a voice, and I'm going to use it" scream! He does it mostly when we're playing, and I go in for a zurbert (sp?). I'm glad we don't have neighbours too close by, or they might think I am hurting him!! He's also started laughing, it's this real deep-troated chuckle. Sooo cute. He is getting real strong. When he's on his belly he can hold his whole chest up and look around. I put him on the bed like this and then kneel on the floor on the side of the bed facing him so he has to lift up to look at me. Then I duck down and pop back up and say "Peek a Boo!!" He goes crazy! I don't know who has more fun, him or me. They really have such a personality now don't they?
I went to a baby-food making workshop the other day, which was great. Got lots of good info. The public health nurse that put it on said that it is now recommended by some to wait until 6 months for even cereal! I don't think I want to wait that long.
Well we've got a snow storm going on today, which is kind of nice. I always like the first snow, but wish it would go away after Christmas!

Boo Boo
11-24-2005, 07:29 PM
Kiedy thanks for the advice,

Kierrasmommie; l agree perhapes it is too early for little ones to sleep through the nite, dd has started to wake up 3 times in the night this past week? sometimes for a feed. However,today she has drove me mad, she keeps crying it s not collic nor wind l think she may be teething she keeps putting her finger in her moth and l think she is trying to rub her gums? l have got a headache from her crying so far she has been crying none stop for like 15 minutes l dont know what to do she wants me to hold her. She normally goes off to sleep,, HELP :(

Kierrasmommie you are correct about the weaning things, Annaum is definitly NOT READY TO BE WEANED. She is 14 weeks and is quite happy with milk. However, she has been rather fussy lately in drinking, she cries alot and poos alot so i think she is teething. Im going ot get some poder for her gums l have heard Ashton and Parsons is really good. Its herbal? will let yo uknow how l get on. I have a terrible headache from Annaum ' s crying and feel distressed so am going.

Spanish
11-25-2005, 05:14 PM
Hi Laur77: My local health visitors don't recommend weaning before 6 months. Apparently that's the World Health Organisation recommendation now. She did say it was only a recommendation and you needed to take your cue from your baby by looking for the signs that they are ready to wean. She also said that you can start to give them little spoonfulls of food before six months - not for nutrition but just so they can start to get used to different tastes. I'm planning to start doing that from about 5 - 5 1/2 months and then start weaning properly from 6 months...unless DD clearly is ready for solids before then of course!

Spanish

S&J
11-25-2005, 11:58 PM
Hello All!
I'm glad to hear that everyone is doing great....except for those of you who are having sleepless nights:( I had one of those a few nights ago and i'm still recovering!
Yesterday Troy was having a weird feeding day.....wed. nite he was up a lot...i think it was because we spent all day Christmas shopping...anyways i fed him at 9pm..and usually he'll go until 5-7am..well he ate at 12am and then 6am and then 9:30am and then not until 3:30pm!! 6 hour difference! Everytime I tried to feed him he screamed...a couple of times i gave him gripe water because I thought maybe he had an upset tummy....After his 3:30pm feed i fed him again at 7pm...he went to sleep at about 8pm and didn't wake up until 6:00am this morning for a feed.! Last night i was wide awke from 3am until 6am..making sure that he was ok. I know this is a lot of numbers to read but has anyone else found that their little ones are going longer?
Today he was better...going about 3-4 hours in between feeds.

I bought the heinz beginner rice cereal....i'm going to start introducing him to that in the next few weeks. He's 4mos today! I know i ended up a july mommy...i was suppose to have ds aug 15th...but i talked to you august mommies until the end!

When we went shopping i bought the cutest little santa outfit for Troy to wear when he goes to see Santa! It was from The Bay....and some other cute Christmas outfits.

Troy still doesn't do much tummy time...he's really kicking his legs and laughing too. I think soon he'll just get mad enough and flip himself over! :) He's also starting to squeal with excitement, and "talk" back to people when they talk to him. I love when dh comes home from work and Troy will be in my arms and he'll starting waving his arms up and down with a huge smile on his face!! He also is trying to sit up..it's so cute when he's in his swing or bouncy chair he'll be trying hard to sit up! He's also starting to grab things..and bounce up and down in his exersaucer thing..i'm going to get a jolly jumper soon and i'm sure he'll enjoy that!

Well i've written enough! I hope you're all doing great and talk to you soon!
S :)

Boo Boo
11-26-2005, 12:26 PM
Hi all,

Good to hear from you all.

I agree with Spanish about the weaning factor and the WHO IS correct. Annaum and l have been invited to our local health centre for a weaning session.

I did try the Ashton and Parsons powder for Annaum and it did help slightly, however, all this week has been terrible for Annaum. Sh ehas not been able to sleep till like 1 am in the morning. Im certain she must be teething and her milk patterns have totally changed. Like she can wake up 11 am or 12 pm and drink only 2 -3 ounces then she will not drink for perhapes another 1-2 hours and then she may have like 5 ounces more its soooo bizarre. My health visitos tells me Annaum is teething.

Oh well, we ar enow off to a family party Annaums first one! as we missed a previous one so it should be exciting. :)

kierrasmommy
11-26-2005, 11:39 PM
Hi everyone,
Boo, she sounds like she may have started teething but the whacky eat sleep schedules could also be the next growth spurt, they tend to eat more when they are going through that.
We had DH's Christmas party Friday night, my sister came to our house to babysit, I thought it'd be better if he was in his own element. He was good for the first part of the night, drank his bottle and had a nap but then later I guess he had enough of all that business and wanted Mommy. My sister couldn't get him to eat or sleep, eventually he ate a bit and fell asleep on her chest so she stayed very still and practically whispered on the phone when I called to check in. When I got home he was half asleep but as soon as he heard me, his head popped up and he was watching my every move, when I finally got to hold him he was all smiles and was burrying his head in my neck and chest...looking for a snack, once he ate he slept for 5 1/2 hours...I guess his restless night tired him out. LOL
Well, I should go, Talk to you all soon. Take care.
P.S Even when I started Kierra on cereal and solids I still breastfed her and gave her breastmilk in her cereal...she didn't wean until 9 months...I'll let you all know what the pediatrician says this week about it.

S&J
11-27-2005, 12:49 AM
Kierrasmommy,
We went out for a couple of hours last friday night..and had my parents come in to babysit..Troy was the same way. I fed him and he usually stays awake for a few mintues after and then i rock him to sleep...so i called m&d to tell them that he's almost asleep so they could come in....I too thought it would be easier for G&G to come in so he would sleep right away and not fuss like he does if he's out at G&G's..well..he didn't want to let himself fall asleep, everytime i put him in his crib he was wide awake! It was like he knew dh and I were leaving...my mom said he was wide awake until 11pm...and then finally went down. We got home at 12:30am and he woke up at 5am.
I thought it was interesting that he would sense that something different was happening!

Tomorrow we're going to a family gathering and are staying in a hotel...this will be Troy's first experience in a hotel..and i'm a little stressed about waking the rooms next to us! I'm kind of excited because the hotel has a pool and we're going to take Troy for his first pool experience!

Well i have a million more things to do for tomorrow!
Hope everyone is well!
S :)

Boo Boo
11-27-2005, 07:45 AM
Kierrasmommie, Yes it could be a growth spurt! well Annaum was well behaved at her first social family gathering:)

We have shaves Annaums hair its been a weak and she lookes like a little monk! lol :) oh l wish we could post pics up :( it would be sooooo nice to see you and your babies!

Anyway Annaum did sleep at 12. am last nite. I think the powder l am using is great (for her teething), l told my mum about it and she did some research and told me it was plain old Chamomile in a small quantity. This probably explains why Annaum was asleep till 1 pm in the afternoon!

Did l mention that Annaum is being reffered to the childrens hospital to have her pre-natal teeth checked? have no date yet will keep you posted. Her second tooth has started to come through.

Is anyone considering returning/ planning to go back to work?

kierrasmommy
11-27-2005, 06:20 PM
Hi,
Well, that was nice that you guys got to go out and enjoy yourselves, I enjoyed DH's Christmas party but thought about Kaden and Kierra far too much...typical Mommy. And that is great that Annaum was well behaved for the family get together, did she go in the pool after all? I have a pair of the cutest Hawaiin print swim shorts for Kaden but I haven't gotten around to taking him to the pool, I can't go without DH or my sister to watch Kierra as I'd have my hands full with Kaden, but I do want to go soon.
Kaden has been quite the cranky pants lately, I don't see any signs of a tooth so I am beginning to wonder if he is just at the stage where he needs more food, like cereal...I will wait to ask the Dr but I am almost sure he just needs something more filling in his belly...when I started Kierra on cereal I'd feed her or tablespoons of cereal and then breastfeed her right after to top her up, so I don't even consider that weaning even though she was eating solids.
Well, I should go, I will talk to you all soon.
Take care.
P.S Tomorrow night I am having a scrapbooking party...I wanted to get into scrapbooking after Kierra but didn't have time, but last month I started and it is so much fun, so I am looking forward to tomorrow's party...I think I am going to do Kadens first page...it'll be a fall theme from when I took pics of the kids in the fall leaves.
P.S.S Boo...what will they do about the teeth? I really am curious to see what her teeth look like, I've never seen that before...must be cute though! I think I may do a scrapbook page for Kaden "All I Want For Christmas Is My Front Teeth" theme....with his big gummy smiley face. LOL

Boo Boo
11-28-2005, 09:47 AM
Ha ha ha (Kierrasmommie) scrappy book sounds fun! Annaum looks so sweet!They just look like normal teeth but smalllllllll :) No Annaum not been in the pool yet! I twill need two fi us to manage that. However, she has started to enjoy bath times more now. However, she is still really cranky too from 10.30 pm onwards last nite she would not sleep till 1 am l was near enuff to tearing my hair out! im pms too!
Good luck with Kadens scrappy book, and l will keep you posted about Annaums tooth. Oh and its started to snow here! l showed Annaum the snow falling from the window and she quite likes it! anyway off to make a cuppa tea see you xxxxxxxx hope kierra is well too...

kierrasmommy
11-28-2005, 04:50 PM
Hi,
Well...I broke down and tried the cereal. Kaden has been so cranky lately and nothing seems to settle him, he doesn't want to nurse, he doesn't want his bouncy chair, doesn't want his swing, doesn't want his exersaucer, doesn't want to cuddle with his pacifier, doesn't want to stand up or play with toys...just not like him at all. So yesturday afternoon I decided to try it and see, well he LOVED it! After the first spoonful he was smiling and he'd grab my hand and try and bring it to his mouth when he saw the spoon coming. He ate the whole thing and would have eaten more if I would have made more but I didn't want to overdue it...today he had an absolute tantrum he had a clean diaper and had just had a nap, I tried feeding him and all the other tricks and nothing worked but once I got the cereal going he was a different baby...I'm beginning to think he just wasn't getting filled up enough. He has a Dr appointment on Wednesday so I'll discuss it with him and if he says to stop the ceral I will, but Kaden has had no problems digesting it and he is so happy after he eats it as well so I am almost certain he'll say we can continue. I feel bad for breaking down and giving in...but I know that Kierra had it around this age as well which is even later than what our parents started us on it at...even my sister had started her kids much earlier than what Kaden and Kierra started.
Kierra is good, she is excited for Christmas, we put up the Christmas lights Saturday and next weekend is DH's works family Christmas party so she is just pumped about seeing Santa again. Well, I gotta go, Kaden is ready to nap.
Talk to you all soon.

Boo Boo
11-28-2005, 05:08 PM
Hi,

Kierrasmommie, well thats good news at least you kind of know what the issue was with Kaden. Let us know how you get on.

S&J
11-29-2005, 12:55 PM
Hello all...

We're back from the family function and Troy liked the pool I guess :) He didn't do much at all..just layed against me, I think he was relaxed because he was so calm. He didn't even cry when we took him out and got the towel for him.

Kierrasmommy..i'm thinking of trying the rice cereal too. Can you tell me how you went about feeding him? Did you breastfeed a little bit first and then feed him? Or did you feed him some spoonfuls before you bf him? And did you mix the cereal in with your breastmilk or use water?
Well i guess i can ask the ladies tonite in my prenatal reunion too. :)

I have been putting Troy to bed without any blankets or little sleeper bags...just in a cotton sleeper...and he seems to not mind at all. If i put him in anything thicker he sweats! I know some people around me thinks that's mean but Troy doesn't fuss and will sleep...i'd rather him be a little cool than risk overheating!!

How's everyone else doing? anything new and exciting?

Ok talk to everyone later!
S:)

Boo Boo
11-29-2005, 01:09 PM
Hi,


Im going to try and add an extra blanket in Annaums cotbed ( try to make it small). Im hoping that this will deter her from moving around and taking her blanket off at nite.

Anyway im so amazed at how much she is changing and she looks so cute amd chubby! I had some passport photo's taken and it was ever so hard to get her to stare at the photographer. Well l hoep the passprt office accept her pics her eyes are open however, her head was at a slight angle. The passort people are so fussy these days. Anyway l have my last post natal club 2maro and im going to miss them so very much. We are going to learn baby sighning this week. Lat week was really good a swe painted raindeers and painted out little ones hands and feet to put on the head! :) see you all soon..

Laur77
11-29-2005, 04:12 PM
I am having some blanket problems too. Logan has outgrown his 9 month sleeping sack at 4 months! Do they come any bigger, and where do we get them? I love that thing! The last few nights I have experimented with different blankets. What has worked best so far is to take a larger blanket and tuck it in under the mattress at the bottom, and tuck it down the sides real good. Some night it works, others he still manages to kick it off! Or sometimes he'll just shimmy up out from under it. He never feels cold though, I can tell by touch that he is at a good temperature. I agree with you S&J, I'd rather him be a little cool than too hot, and I'm sure they'd let us know if they are not comfortable!
Oh also, the other night I got the best video of Logan laughing his head off. It is such a cute little chuckle.

Kiedy
11-29-2005, 04:28 PM
You guys I'm so excited, my son got his FIRST TOOTH at 4mo and 5days. I can't believe it.

I noticed it this morning. Couple of days ago, I saw white heads at the bottom front of his mouth, but thought it would take months to see any teeth, but this morning I actually saw the ridge of the tooth. I thought I was hallucinating so I touched it w/ my finger just to be sure and the tooth is out. The second one next to it, is pocking out w/ one corner and a third one further back is pocking out about 2mm, but is still covered by the gum. It seems like it happend over night. I was so happy, DS picked up on it and was laughing his head off. I didn't expect to be this happy, but it was the same feeling as when I found out I was pregnant, I think it's because it was so sudden. All the other changes and milestones came slowly and gradually. This, you think you have months and the next time you look, it's there, just like that.
My little boy is growing up...I'm going to weep....yey

kierrasmommy
11-29-2005, 10:28 PM
S&J It was you that went to the pool, I got you and Boo mixed up because you both had family gatherings the same week!
I pumped about 3 ounces of milk and mixed it with one tablespoon of cereal...it was the "Nestle Starter" rice cereal and it was really quite runny, it's supposed to be like that, the better they get at their spoon feeding, the thicker you can make the cereal on a gradual basis. After he eats and I wipe him up, then I breastfeed him (from the same side I pumped first, then the other if he is interested)until he doesn't want anymore. If you don't pump it says you can use previously boiled and cooled water, but I prefer the breastmilk, it is better for them than the water. (you can use formula too I think) I only did it 2 afternoons in a row, when he was extremely cranky and he was pretty much inconsolable...not today though. After him being cranky for a week or so and trying that and seeing the difference I am almost positive he must just need more...he is about the sixe of a 6 month old so I wonder if that has made a difference. He has his pediatrician appointment tomorrow so I'll find out...if Kaden is cranky tonight I may try cereal before his bath, then breastfeed him to sleep and see if it makes a difference in how long he sleeps for...I told one of my friends how I felt bad for starting him before I talked with the pediatrician, and she said she didn't always go by the books, sometimes you need to take cues from the baby...it made sense because when Kierra was about 6 months old she went through a stage where she stopped sleeping like she used to...she went from regular 7 hour stretches to 3-4 hours at a time, after a month I asked if it could be that she needed something more than her cereal and then topping up with breastmilk before bed and they said it was possible, so after her spoonfed cereal she'd have a bath then get a slightly thickened a bottle of breastmilk with rice cereal (still very runny though) and it helped quite a bit.
Boo, I'm sure they'll accept her passport, they will see she obviously has little control at her young age.
For those of you who don't want blankets in bed with baby...try buying those 1 piece fleece sleepers in a bigger size and put it over babys regular cotton sleeper...the second layer is as good as a blanket but no risk of going over babys head, that's what we used to do when we took Kierra camping...I have a blanket in Kadens bed but it is tucked in at the foot and the sides like Laur said. The blanket only goes up to under his armpits. Kaden also has that wedge thing that prevents them from rolling over onto their belly, so he doesn't go anywhere when he is in that...and I tuck the 2 top corners under each side of the wedge so there is no loose blanket corners. Worked with Kierra and seems good with Kaden, once he outgrows the wedge I'll re-evaluate the blanket and see if the bigger sleepers are better.
Laur Kaden had a good chuckle the other night too, up until then it was just a littl "hee hee" not an all out chuckle...I can't wait until I can get some hysterical giggling out of him.
Kiedy, thats great about the teeth...are you still breastfeeding? I am worried about Kaden getting teeth and biting...Kierra didn't get her first tooth until she was 9 months old (late teether) so I didn't have to worry about that because I had weaned her by the time it poked through.
Well, I should go,

Kiedy
11-29-2005, 11:12 PM
Yes kierasmommy I am breastfeeding, so I do worry that he will bite me, but I've read that as long as they are eating, their tongue will cover the teeth, once they stop eating and start biting, you should just take the nipple out and say NO loud. Hopefully they will erupt slowly.

kierrasmommy
11-30-2005, 05:57 PM
Hi,
Well Kaden had his appointment today. He is 3 months and 11 days and weighs 15lbs 14oz. I explained how cranky Kaden has been and that he still spits up every time I feed him and that he was so much happier the 2 times I gave him cereal and he said I can keep giving him cereal, he actually said sometimes babies with reflux need to start solids a bit sooner because the cereal is thicker so they don't spit it up often...which is true, both times Kaden had it he didn't spit up anything but EVERY time I nurse him he spits up. He did say despite the reflux that Kadens weight is doing very good, he is in the 95-97% now, so only 3-5% of babies weigh more than him at his age. I wonder if he'll gain more now that I can give him cereal more and he won't be spitting up as much? The pediatrician also said the soft spot is fine, I was worried it was closing or too small, but I guess it can close anywhere from 3-18 months old and as long as Kaden's head shape is nice it's nothing to worry about. And for his dry scalp he said to use hydrocortisone cream for 3 days and Selson Blue shampoo and it should clear up...I had tried everything from baby oil, to all natural apricot oil, Aveeno baby lotion and Johnsons shampoo to all natural shampoo, to not shampooing for 2-3 days at a time and nothing seemed to help. I comb his hair every day too. Its not cradle cap though because its not yellow and crusty, just white thin flakes.
Well, I should go hide the gifts I bought today and get started on decorating the tree with Kierra. Talk to you all soon.

Spanish
12-03-2005, 08:49 AM
Hello All. Wow you guys write so much it's going to take me a while to catch up, but I just have a few minutes before a friend comes round and I'm so excited and wanted to let you know that H rolled over for the first time today. Hurrah. DH put her down on her back in her cot and when he went back in she was on her tummy. He rolled her back on to her back and she flipped right back over to her tummy! She's done it a few times since then so I got to see her do it myself. The only problem is that she hasn't worked out how to roll from her tummy to her back so I think we're going to have a few nights of waking up to help her roll back over. LOL!

Laur77
12-03-2005, 11:15 AM
Spanish, my son just learned this trick too. Now he is constantly rolling onto his stomach then gets mad because he can't get back. He can roll from tummy to back too, just not as easily, and I think he eventually gets worn out and just can't do it! But he still keeps turning over onto his tummy! He hasn't done it at night yet, thank goodness!

Boo Boo
12-03-2005, 12:50 PM
Hi,

Congrats Kiedy on your little ones tooth l know the feeling as you know Annaum was born with pre-natal teeth and they took about 8 weeks to come through well the first one did anyhow.

Annaum has not rolled over on her tummy as yet. She has kind of done the twisty thing! Im going to focus on her spending bit more time on her tummy!

Have any of you mums tried baby signing? it may be too early but its something im going to look into and start doing. I also give Annaum baby massage and she really likes it.

I am also so proud to say finally! Annaum has a bed time routine :) Well we aim for 7.30 pm but im always over so its around 8.00pm when l put her to bed after giving her bath. She will sleep for 30 minutes then cry for around 5 minutes in which l try not to pick her and she then snoozes off! bad point well mummy has to be up early in the morning! as Annaum is full of energy. She now makes so much noise and coos and tries to talk to us its soooooo funny! This morning it felt like she was trying to make me and dh wake up sp we could play with her!

Annuam weighs nearly 14 lbs and is 3 months and 3 weeks so im please with her weight.

Oh well better be off and done so much house work infact during my maternity leave all l have done is HOUSEWORK! someone asked me if l get bored and my ans was NO? weird i guess. However, l am getting a bit depressed:( l am having withdrawal symptoms from not going to the cinema nor being able to watch Bollywood movies too :(

Annuam has an awful habit of crying toooo much when we go shopping. She is fed , and changed so l dont understand she absolutely detest sitting in the car seat and pushchair thats the only time she drives me mad and l get tooo ambarrased. Anyone else feel like this?

Spanish
12-03-2005, 06:01 PM
Boo Boo: Oh yes I went through a phase when I was too embarrased to go to the supermarket because H would howl every single time. I walk to the shops and she'd sleep all the way there but wake up as soon as we got in the door and start screaming. Trying to get through the till and cope with a screaming baby was just awful. Now I only go if she's well fed and ready for a nap so I know she'll stay asleep in the shop.

kierrasmommy
12-04-2005, 04:20 AM
Guilty...I tend to post quite a bit in this thread, so I apologize for those of you who have a hard time keeping up. LOL... I'll try to control myself more.
Kaden is doing great with his cereal...but you need to keep up with him, because if you spoon too slow, he'll let you know about it! I have been doing cereal 1-2 times a day but I pump breastmilk to make his cereal and let him nurse afterward as well, so it hasn't affected my milk. He has started to refuse taking bottles, he started this before the cereal so it's not related...he just wants Mommy's boobs. I am going to try out another brand of nipples and see if that helps but he gave my sister a hard time that night of DH's Christmas party and I've tried a couple times since with a few different nipples I had at home (NUK, Gerber and Playtex) and he isn't having anything to do with them. I am also getting tired of him not sleeping for long periods of time at night, the cereal hasn't seemed to help much with that...he is still going 3-4 hour stretches at a time...I know he could go longer because he has gone as long at 5 1/2 hours before...but only when he's overtired I think.
Well, gotta go he is being a weiner and not going to sleep in his bed...but the minute I take him to bed with me he is all sleepy eyed...brat!

Boo Boo
12-04-2005, 01:31 PM
Well there wa sme thinking l cracked the bed time routine! well last nte was awful Annaum got up twice and was really up set l fed her prior to this and then she was hungry like an hour later? l think she is going through some weird groth spurt!! anyway l get her ot watch cbbc now and she loves Fimbles! :) hope you are alrite! l wonder where USP48 is? and how she is doing?

kierrasmommy
12-05-2005, 02:49 PM
Boo
Kaden loves TV too, I let him watch those Baby Einstein videos but even if anything else is on TV he just stares at the TV...my DH thinks Kaden likes sports already!
Well, I am still tired...I think I'm going to actually keep track of Kaden's sleep day and night for a couple days and see if I can figure out something...I know lastnight he slept too much in the evening so he didn't sleep well at night because of that, but we were running around lastnight, had to go shopping and then went to the hospital to visit my cousin who was induced and had a baby...(they now think they had her dates wrong and he was born at 35 weeks instead of 37 weeks like they thought, she was induced because of extremly high blood pressure, baby will be in ICU for about a week, he weighed 5lbs even)..so Kaden slept the whole time I did all this stuff, and I eventually just woke him up shortly after we got home.
He has now discovered he has legs and feet. when I was changing his diaper this morning he was holding onto his legs his feet are too far away to really get a good grasp of, but he did touch them. Kaden has also started squealing, it is so funny to hear him get all excited, he is such a happy baby, I am so lucky with that...now if only I could get him to sleep better.
Well I should go, Talk to you all soon.

Boo Boo
12-06-2005, 02:10 PM
Hi,
Hope you are all well, and l guess you all must be really busy in xmas shopping and thing! :)

well Annaum likes her Einstein dvd's too. Oh an dl must apologise l saw my previous thread and was horrified at my terrible spelling!

well me and Annaum went to the baby weaning class and it was ok got some ideas will share when l have more time to chat to you ladies. Annaum bathing routine every nite and feeding is getting a bit too much she does not want to sleep and cries a bit know and is also not drinking as much as she was last week. So l guess it was a growth spurt.

Better go and make the dinner etc.

kierrasmommy
12-06-2005, 03:36 PM
Hi Everyone,
OK, I kept track of Kadens napping yesturday and he napped for 4 1/2 hours total throughout the day...is that about what your little ones are doing? I started keeping track of his sleep at night lastnight too, but I gave up after the second or third time so I'll have to try that again.
Oh, and I tried that last bottle nipple I had at home lastnight and Kaden refused that as well, so he has refused 4 different types of nipples now, I'll check out if there are any others to try next time I go to the baby section, but I have a feeling he is going to be tough to get to take a bottle...which is depressing because that means I can't go too far for too long without him. He had done so good when we first introduced it to him, I can't understand why he is doing this? I mean it is still Mommies milk but I don't even think he tastes it because he has a fit as soon as he realizes it doesn't feel like Mommy.
Well, I'll talk to you all soon. Take care.

S&J
12-06-2005, 08:15 PM
Kierrasmommy..
Troy sleeps only a half hour at each nap...so in the end it's only a total 2-3hours...sometimes he'll go longer if we're driving somewhere..like to the city which is an hour away.
The last few nights he's been a little stinker with his sleeping! I've started him on the rice cereal..well just introducing it to him after his morning feed..but i think i'm going to start after his night feed too so maybe he'll sleep longer...he's a big boy and i think that bf isn't lasting him all night anymore....
Also..when my dh has gone in to change Troy's diaper the last few nights before i feed him..he said that Troy has turned himself sideways in a 90 degree turn..so his head and legs are almost touching the sides of the crib...it's soo cute!

Well...Troy is at G&G's and i should go get him!
talk to you all soon!
Let me know how your little ones are doing and what exciting news has happened!!!
S :)

Boo Boo
12-07-2005, 08:31 PM
Annaum will only nap for like an hour to an hour and a half and this consists of may be 3 naps timing about 30 minutes each. In the morning she will wake up around 7 am for her feed. I then lay her in her cot where she may continue to play for about 10-15 minutes. After this she will doze off for perhapes 2-3 hours. She roughly sleeps for about 9- 10 hours in the nite.

Kiedy
12-09-2005, 02:11 AM
kierrasmommy

What time does Kaden wake up in the morning? My DS wakes up around 9:30 and naps at noon and 4pm for a total of about 2-3hrs. We travel a lot w/ him and I've found that if he sleeps too much during the day he will not sleep well at night, especially that first stretch. I also make sure that he always wakes up from his last nap at least 2hrs before it's bed time again (for us 8pm). Also the problems you're having with the bottle, my DS started refusing it at 1.5mo. I read somewhere that at this stage, especially when they eat from a spoon, they can drink from sippy cup. I tried it couple of days ago, w/ some water, just to give it a try. Of course he spilled lots, but did like it. You could always have your sister give him breastmilk by using spoon, or the cup. The cup is like the sippy cup, but I took the rubber part that requires them to suck in order to get the fluid out. It just pours freely. Also I'm thinking if you got a bottle that you can compress, and make the holes in the nipple bigger, so that when you press the bottle, milk comes out, that may help.

I still can't get him to sleep through his 2am wake up. I just don't know what to do, it's always that pacifier he wants. He used to wake up after that at 4am, but now that's getting better and he will sleep until 6:30. What can I do to get him to sleep through that, or more importantly how do I get him to sleep w/o his pacifier? I'll post a thread on it, see if I can get some tips.

DS is really trying to sit up constantly, unfortunatly his head is so heavy he just falls on his face, today he actually fell off the couch. He was sitting in his car seat and playing w/ his toys. I guess he leaned forward and tipped the car seat over. Luckly the sofa is very low, coffee table is far away and nothing happend, but when I saw him lying on the floor, face first, I nearly died, I think my heart stopped for a second. It only took a second, I went to the bathroom to get some cream and when I came back he wasn't in his car seat. Well, the rest of the night I wasn't taking any chances and was carrying him everywhere with me, which made him very happy. But talk about feeling guilty, I felt like the worst mother on the planet (I should have forseen it...thing). I always have many pillows around him to make sure he is safe when he is sitting up, and the funny thing is, before I went to the bathroom I checked the car seat to make sure that it wasn't rocking farward too much, but I guess he is heavier than I think. Well I hope you are all doing better than me.

Laur77
12-09-2005, 06:38 PM
Kierrasmommy-Logan usually has a half hour nap in the morning, then a 2 hour nap in the afternoon.

Kiedy-I'm glad you said that about the car seat. I know I am guilty of leaving Logan unstrapped in his chair/seat and going "quickly" to do something. But you're right, it only takes a second. I'm going to be more careful from now on!

Logan goes for his second shots on Monday :( I'm making my mom go with me, not only for moral support, but to help me carry everything! I don't know how you guys with more than one kid do it! Between Logan, diaper bag, our coats, mitts, etc...I need a couple more hands!!

S&J
12-09-2005, 11:33 PM
Kiedy- I'm having that 2am trouble too. troy was a great sleeper but now is waking up at 2 to feed...because i don't put him to sleep with a blanket people have told me that he might be waking up b/c he's cold....even if i did put him to sleep with a blanket he would have them kicked off in a second...i've tried thicker sleepers and sleep sacks...but he seems to sweat more...(i keep the house very cool at night as it is) I'm hoping that he grows out of this someday! :)

Laur- Troy had his second round of shots on thursday...dh came this time (last time he was working) i was telling him how horrible these needles were and how Troy would howl and how i would probably cry...but amazingly it wasn't too bad! Troy cried a little bit and calmed down right after...i hope the same is for Logan!

Troy also had his first fall about a week ago...he slipped out sideways from his jolly jumper when i was unstrapping him..he fell onto the linoleum...i thought i could get him out quite easily but now found out that strapping him in on the floor and then hooking him up after works better! I was sooo scared after i picked him up! he was crying of course but it lasted only a few minutes and i fed him right after...i also called the dr. and we went to see her and she said that Troy was just fine and i should get used to these falls b/c it's not going to be the last one! I'm so much more careful!! not that i wasn't in the beginning! I still feel horrible but am lucke that nothing serious came from it!

We also had Troy weighned and measured that other day and he's 17lbs 10oz and 26 inches long! He's gaining onto his cousins who are 5mos older than him!

Is everyone ready for Christmas yet!
We're finally getting there!
talk to you all soon!
S :)

kierrasmommy
12-09-2005, 11:37 PM
Hi Guys,
Well it looks like Kaden is napping just as well as your little ones...I could swear Kierra slept more. Kaden goes to bed at midnight and gets up for the day between 10 and 11am...he usually wakes up 2-3 times during the night for a feeding...the first stretch is usually 4 to 4 1/2 hours...then usually 3 hours then he sleeps restlessly so I bring him into bed and he sleeps with me the rest of the morning. I think I'll try shortening or moving his last nap of the day though, that may be why he doesn't sleep longer than 4 1/2 hours. He is doing really well with his cereal but it hasn't really helped his sleeping...I don't know what his limit is yet though....he seems to eat and eat and eat...once this week I gave him 6 tablespoons of cereal mixed with about 5 tablespoons of breastmilk and he seemed like he would still eat if there was more in the bowl. He really likes it too, he gets excited when the spoon comes and he opens his mouth before its even there for him, and he kicks his feet like a wild man between spoonfuls. And depending on how hungry he is, if you spoon feed him too slow he sure lets you know about it. LOL. With the bottle thing, I looked and there aren't any more types of nipples to try so I am going to just keep trying but make DH do it in case it's just a Mommy is feeding me so why can't I have the boob scenario...I did try one of those bagliner bottles and cut the nipple bigger and pushed the milk but he still wouldn't take it. But he sure has a temper. Thanks for all the suggestions though. I really appreciate it, I think I will try the sippy cup tomorrow...I have one with a rubber spout that is great for starters, Kierra wouldn't take the hard spout sippy cup until after she learned how to drink from this one so it's definately worth a try...I told my sister if she ever babysits and he refuses to take a bottle at least I know he'll eat his cereal. Oh and Kiedy, don't be too hard on yourself we all go through something that makes us feel like the worst Mom out there...when Kierra was just a newborn...I'm sure younger than Kaden is now I waited until she was sleeping to cut her nails but as I was cutting them she startled and moved and I ended up cutting the top layer of two of skin off her finger, I was so upset, it bled for a little while and to this day I feel guilty about it and every time I cut Kaden's nails it reminds me about it...I am super careful with Kaden and it takes me forever to cut his nails beacuse of it.
For the pacifier thing...it'll be very soon that they can put it in their mouth by themselves...I remember Kierra would have 4 pacifiers in her crib each night, 2 in each corner so she'd always be able to find one, until then I'd just pop it in her mouth and go back to sleep.
Laur, goodluck with the needles, I know it's a handful with 2 kids, usually I leave Kaden in his carseat so I can carry him and the seat together, and the mitts I stick in our pockets and the jackets and Kadens blanket I usually lay across the diaper bag...his diaper bag has a middle section flap that zips on both sides with velcro at the end so if I lay the stuff across his diaper bag I can use that middle section flap as a strap to hold it all in place by laying it over and velcro-ing it to secure...don't know if that made any sense.
We all went for a bath together tonight (Kierra Kaden and me) and Kaden thought it was the best thing ever! Kierra was squirting the bottom of his feet with her toys and they'd both laugh at each other, it was the cutest thing. He is just amazed by his sister, if she is within eyesight, he is most likely watching her, I have to get her to move if I am trying to take a picture or feeding him otherwise he will just stare at her and ignore me. LOL
Well, I should go, Talk to you all soon,
Have a great weekend.
P.S How is the Christmas shopping going? I am having a hard time finding stuff for Kaden, so far I got him 3 sleepers, 3 bibs, a LeapPad Learning Caterpiller, and 2 sets of Peek-A-Boo Blocks. I would have finished my shopping yesturday but I realized the night before that for some reason my unemployment cheque was 1/2 of what it should have been, I called the next day and sure enough they "forgot" to enter my 35 weeks of parental leave benefits...so I only got a 1 week cheque for what they thought was my final pay of maternity benefits...so I still have 35 weeks of benefits to go, but I don't know when they'll adjust it, they will call me Monday.
Well...now 'll go, sorry it was such a long post...do you guys read it all when I go nuts like that?

Boo Boo
12-10-2005, 02:31 PM
Hi all,

I was cutting Annaums nails and she moved and yes l accisdently kind of cut a bit of skin and it was bleeding l was so scared and upset. However, she is much better know.

Annaum has also had her 3rd injections and this time it was really bad she felt the pain alot l think it may have been the nurse as she dis it a hard and hurried way. It was awful Annaum was really upset the whole evening.

Anyway today we are going out for a meal and im really excited except for the fact that dh is running late so Annaums sleep schedule is totally going to be ruined.

And im glad your little one is alrite. l sometimes leave Annaum on her own on the couch just for a second but try and put like a cushion next to her in case she decided to roll off. I guess we al need to be more vigile. Take care all

Kiedy
12-11-2005, 02:45 AM
Thanks you guys for making me feel better.
Kierrasmommy, why does Kaden go to bed so late, how do you get a break?? I thought by now they should go to bed around 8pm. I must admit, I look forward to the time when he's asleep b/c I finally don't have to worry about him.

I had him weighed today, and he is 18 lbs 12 oz. Talk about a big baby. This thursday is our second round of shots. He was supposed to get them 2wks ago, but they were busy. I'm really dreading them, I cried the first time. I think I will have to drag my DH to come w/ me.

He is still not sleeping well, he's been wakign up every couple of hours, doc says that b/c he is such a big boy he just may need more food and to start him on rice cereal. I was going to do it tonight, but I couldn't find a nice spoon at the store, so I will do it tomorrow. Afterall this is a big event that has to be videotaped, so I gotta have a nice spoon for the occasion (I know I'm being soo silly). So tomorrow is the big day.

My DH is sick w/ the flue/cold, so I'm takign care of two babies adn frankly I'm tired and feel like I'm coming down w/ something, so I'm off to bed to get some much needed rest. Talk to you girls tomorrow.

I bought DS a green toy today for his christmas stocking. He was screaming at this nice store, and when I showed him this perticular toy, he stopped for a second, so I thought is was a descent choice.

kierrasmommy
12-11-2005, 05:07 AM
Hi Guys...
Kaden slept really well lastnight! He actually sleeps earlier in the evenings, so I don't know if midnight really counts as his bedtime...he usually goes for a nap at 9pm and sleeps for an hour or two then when he wakes up we play for a bit, then he gets his cereal then he gets a bath (the bath makes him sleepy again) after he is all dressed and ready for bed he gets some milk until he is done then he gets put in his crib for the night so technically 9 is when he starts his first sleep of the evening but because we do his bedtime routine and he goes in his crib at midnight I count it as then...I gave both kids a bit later night time routine so they sleep in a bit later in the day...luckily both kids have the same kind of sleep instinct as me...I'm a night owl and not much of a morning person unless I can sleep in a bit...so with the kids going to bed a bit later we all get to sleep in a bit later...Kierra goes to bed at 9, but we all usually wake up somewhere between 10 to 11:30am. Whereas all my friends with ealry bedtimes are up at the crack of dawn.
Anyhow, lastnight we skipped Kaden's 9pm nap/sleep and he went to bed around midnight and he ended up waking up once to feed at 5, then slept in to 11:40am. That's the first time he only woke up once.
Well, I gotta go, DH has a couple buddies over and are playing cards and they need another player...Talk to you all soon.

Boo Boo
12-12-2005, 11:19 AM
Hi,

Well ladies l would like ot start off by asking how you are all feeling? for a change! we always jump in to talk about our little ones! l was just wondering how the mums were doing?

Well l will start off, l think im getting much better at this mother thing! :) as you know Annaum is my first baby and l was always scared about how l was going to cope but l have to admit it has gotten easy, so she says before the weaning starts! , and boy has she changed over the months she looks anything like she was born. She used to remind me of Snow white. I have not had her weighed for about a week and a half the last time l got her wieghed she was 14 ibs and was about 14/15 weeks. I dont think she will be 16ibs as she does not drink as much as she used to.

INFACT SOMeTIMES i FEEL LIKE HAVING ANOTHER BABY BUT THEN l DONT KNOW IF l COULD COPE WITH THE WHOLE 9 moth thing! soory had caps lock on!. I must be mad! one is enough for now!

take care all have to go Annaum has woken up from her nap which was for an hour and a half, unusual? :)

kierrasmommy
12-12-2005, 03:43 PM
Hi Everyone,
Boo, good idea about talking about us for a little bit. LOL. I am sooooo tired today! I had a nap yesturday morning while DH watched the kids so when I went to bed at 12:15am I was wide awake and ended up laying in bed tossing and turning. Kierra has a bit of a cough so between listening to her cough and getting up to give her medicine and another time to rub Johnsons vapour cream on her chest and bac and another time to make her go potty...combined with Kaden's lack of sleep lastnight I am a wreck! I actually don't feel too bad despite the lack of sleep. But I have no idea what was up with Kaden, he was so cranky and didn't sleep very well lastnight. He did have an early evening nap but I don't think that was the problem because he never had issues with that before and he always had those naps. I think it's either his teeth or maybe he is getting Kierra's cold...I hope it is better tonight though...I am also upset and pissed off at Kierra's fish! They keep dying and I have no clue why! She had 2 fish that were doing great after a few fish had died so after a couple weeks I thought I'd get Kierra one more fish, within 2 weeks they all got sick so I treated the tank for bacteria that I think the last fish brought in but all 3 fish still died... the last one died lastnight...but yesturday my sister heard Kierra was sick so she shows up at our place with 2 new fish, so I was mad at her because I am still trying to make the water healthy, chances are these will die too, she said she was told they are very hearty fish so she was hoping we'd have better luck with them...so now that I have these new fish I have to go buy a water heater, the goldfish I had before didn't need a heater...I wouldn't have had fish or a tank if it weren't for my sister showing up with a "gift" for Kierra in the first place and now I have to deal with all the troubles that come with it. Well, I gotta go Mr.Cranky Pants is calling. Talk to you soon.

Boo Boo
12-13-2005, 11:13 AM
:rolleyes: Kierrasmommie, shame about the fish perhapes the person who is selling them has a dodgy batch? have you tried him?

kierrasmommy
12-13-2005, 04:16 PM
Hi Boo,
I don't think the moderators will let us share pics, they are pretty strict on everyone following the rules, it would have been nice though. I know when I was TTC and pregnant with Kierra I was part of another board and we could have pics on there but that board is gone now. My name is Joanne and I'm 31...soon to be 32(in March).
Kaden slept better lastnight so I think the other night was just an isolated incident. Kierra was worse lastnight though, I called Healthlink and talked to a nurse and she said it didn't sound bad enough to take her to the hospital but that we should follow up with the Dr again soon. I'm going to take her back to the Dr this afternoon, once the cough medicine wears off. I had done everything else she suggested, I'm hoping to get some antbiotics for her today, I'm sure she has bronchitus, if she isn't better by Sunday she can't go to our Friends Christmas party, we have a big group of friends and most of us have kids so we rented a small hall and are having a pot luck get together, with games/crafts/movies for the kids and visiting for the adults, plus Santa is scheduled to make a surprise appearance and he is giving out gifts to everyone (we bring a wrapped gift for our own kids for Santa to hand out...the kids assume Santa brought the gifts), so I sure hope she is better because I'd hate for her to have to miss it, this is the first year she actually likes Santa and isn't too scared to go sit on him and talk. And it's been awhile since we seen some of these friends so I really hope we can go. If she is sick I think DH and her will be staying home, unless my sister can babysit her.
I called the place I bought that last fish from that got the rest of the fish sick but because it was 10 days after I bought it they wouldn't do anything for me...the fishs only started getting sick about 5 days after the last fish came, so I started treating the water to try and prevent any fish from dying but it didn't work and they ended up dying anyway. The 2 new fish my sister bought seem OK so far but it's still early, I have to go out and buy a water heater for them soon. I had goldfish before and they don't need a heater but these new fish prefer one. I am going to switch where I buy my fish from now anyway...the last fish was from a place I had never bought from before, my original place was OK, but there is one place that is much better so I will try them out and if they keep dying I think I'm going to give up on fish all together and get rid of the tank...it's far more effort and money than it looks like.
I can't remember if I mentioned last week about my unemployment benefits? Anyway, I realized I was paid only half of what I should have been paid and after calling found out they forgot to include my 35 weeks of parental benefits. I am STILL waiting for my money. I called again today and the best he said he can do is put another "Priority" note on my file and if they haven't called me back by tomorrow evening then I can call them again on Thursday and they will connect me to the supervisor, I wasn't happy with that and said I could understand if it was my fault that they didn't include the benefits because of paperwork errors or something but thats not the case, I was approved for everything, it is a mistake on their part and yet I still have to wait. I am so mad/upset that when I got off the phone I sat there with tears in my eyes...I don't know why really, it's not like we don't have money, I can use my DH's money, but I still have Christmas shopping to do for DH and I don't want him to pay for his own gifts. LOL..........I just got a call from Unemployment and they fixed the "glitch", so I should get paid Friday or Monday at the latest.
Well, I should go before I bore the eyes off all of you. LOL. Talk to you soon.

Kiedy
12-13-2005, 07:10 PM
It's nice to see that we are all similar age, I'm 29. My DH was sick all week and I felt like I was taking care of 2 BOYS, talk about a lot of work.

Booboo, I know what you mean about doing a lot of work at night. For me it seems like I'm constantly cleaning the house, I mean I don't understand it, how can it constantly be such a mess, I swear it's my husband fault, he has so much paper, and he never gets rid of it. When I ask him to see what he wants to throw out, he always insists on looking through it first, which then means nothing will be thrown out and only moved to different location. When I get frustrated w/ the mess, I don't even ask him and just throw the magazines away (especially the ones w/ lots of dust on it, afterall it can't be that important). We really need an office, plus it doesn't help that he subscribes to like a million different magazines.

My DS has also been very cranky lately like your little ones, he resists naps and sleep at night like you wouldn't believe. He screams murder. I gave him some rice cereal last night for the first time, it was very exciting. From the 25min that it took, he probobly swollowed 2 or 3 spoonfuls. He was more interested in eating his bib instead. I prepared way too much, how do you guy limit the amount??

I finally put up the christams tree and the stockings, it's way too late for my liking. I still haven't decided what I'm getting for my DH, always such a nightmare. I know I'll get him a new wallet and a phone charger for the car, but I need one more thing. What are you guys getting for your DH's??

Kerrasmommie, too bad your DD is sick, b/c my DH was soo sick this week, I've been really worried about my DS too and myself for that matter, but except for a little cough hear and there, so far so good. Oh, I have a huge favor to ask of you. When you write your enteries can you leave more space inbetween your paragraphs? I love reading them, but I always get lost, my eyes are soo tired I guess, lol. It doesn't help that often when I read them, my DS is hiting the screen or throwing a toy at it, lol. I hope you get some much needed sleep soon, I know I need some. When I'm up on my feet, I go go go. But once I sit down, it's hard to get up again. (Oh, I love the 'Mr.Cranky pants' name, very cute)

S&J
12-14-2005, 09:50 AM
HI everyone..I'm 26 and Dh is 25.
Troy is starting to sleep a little better which is nice. I was up before he was last night waiting for him to wake..it would have been great if i could have slept until 6am....
Troy is also starting to grasp his toys and tries to put them in his mouth...i have a little clip that clips to his soother and he's always pulling that out of his mouth and it's so cute when he tries to put it back in his mouth and it's the wrong way!! :)

Kiedy- I'm got my DH a hockey jersey..he's so into hockey and he's been asking for a jersey for the last few years..so this year i decided to buy him one..I'm sure he'll be wearing it all day on Christmas!! The rest of his gifts are the regular ones...shirts/pants..etc.

Well..i'm off to see a specialist about my gall stones...i hope they do something so i don't ever have another attack!! I thought i was going to die this last time!! And i'm going to finish up some christmas shopping which should have been done in November!!! ahhhhh! :)

Hope everyone has a super duper day!
S :)

Laur77
12-14-2005, 10:54 AM
Hi guys

Well Logan is regressing in the sleep department! He was the best sleeper, from about 8pm to 6am. It was wonderful. Now he fights going to sleep at night, and is up until 9-10 (so much for hubby time). Then he wakes up during the night anywhere between 1-4. At first he didn't seem hungry when he woke, just TOTALLY WIRED and wanting to play. However last night he woke at 1, and actually was pretty hungry. Then he is still up at usual time in the morning. Guess he is just getting more energy! I know this still isn't bad compared to some, just hard to get used to getting up during the night again after having a taste of the good life!!

He had his second shots, which was not nearly as bad as the first time. He looked pretty shocked after each needle, but actually laughed after the first one! The second one we got one cry, then happy again. He wasn't even fussy afterwards. He now weighs just under 20lbs, and is 28". He is soooo much fun now, such a personality!

My hubby is a mountain biker, so I got him some stuff for his bike, a mountain bike calendar, a shirt, a headset for his cell phone (as he is always on it in the car, and makes me nervous) and some cans of special beer for his stocking!!

Laurie, just turned 28!

kierrasmommy
12-14-2005, 09:00 PM
K...I just typed all I wanted to type and it lost it when I went to post it. So I'll make this quick.

Kiedy,
Thanks for letting me know, I'll try to remember to space better from now on. I started off with just 2tbsp of cereal/2 tbsp of breast milk/or formula...if he'd eat it all and still look like he'd eat more then the next time I'd increase it by 1 tbsp each...Kaden now eats 7tbsp of cereal mixed with about 5 tbsp of milk, the better they get at eating, the thicker you can make it by adding less fluid. Kaden's is like pancake batter now. Make sure its close to feeding time, it'll help with the playing because he'll be more interested in eating.

S&J and Laura,
Sounds like all our little ones are going through growth spurts which would explain the sleep problems. I sure hope Kadens needles are more pleasant this time round...although I doubt he'll be giggling, he was NOT impressed last time. It took me about 5 minutes to settle him and once I put him in his carseat he went off crying again.

Speaking of giggling, Kaden was laughing like crazy yesturday. Kierra wanted Christmas music on...(because we always dance together to the music...Oh, if only the neighbors could see!)...anyhow, later I was holding Kaden up and singing to him, and he thought it was the funniest thing ever! (I'll have to make a mental note to avoid any karoake bars from now on, because apparently my singing is rather funny!) LOL, I loved hearing him laugh like that.

I hope to finish Christmas shopping this weekend. DH is hard but I have a few ideas. So far I got him 6 pairs of underwear...he was thowing out all the undies with air conditioning (holes) and now he is limited for underwear, I have to keep up on the laundry otherwise he gets annoyed with his lack of underwear. LOL. And today I bought him a shop clock for the garage. I think he'll get a pair of khaki pants and some new playing cards and maybe poker chips...and a new wallet.

I made personalized calenders for both sides of our families. With everyones birthdays and anniversaries and pictures etc. I have to pick them up from the copy shop on Friday. They turned out pretty good though.

Kierra is doing a bit better, I brought her back to the Dr yesturday and turns out she has her first ear infection...not bad for a 3 1/2 year old. And the cough isn't in her lungs so he gave me cough syrup to help her at night...it's the post nasal drip causing her to cough. Lastnight she slept so good I kept waking up to check on her because she wasn't even coughing!

Well, I should go, I didn't type all that I had typed before, but I guess thats good for you...LOL. I really don't try to type so much.

kierrasmommy
12-15-2005, 02:24 PM
Good Morning,
I was going to ask how everyone is doing in the tummy time/rolling over department? Kaden is doing good with his tummy time most times, and he is getting better at rolling over but sometimes he forgets how or gets his arms stuck so he can't roll over. But I realized the other day that he has a temper and the safety straps they put on bouncy chairs are very useful...I put him in his bouncy chair so I could get something and he got mad and he does this thing where he arches his back and makes himself go completly straight, well he did it and was working his way out of his bouncy chair, little brat! So now he gets belted in. He does that arching his back and pushing himself out in his carseat too, he fights me putting him in there.
Well, I should go. Talk to you soon.

spider37
12-15-2005, 03:14 PM
lol welcome to motherhood i had one of my daughter's who was like houdini she could get her self out of the car seat and the belt's would still be strapped in there place some kid's are just more talented than other's lol

Kiedy
12-16-2005, 03:00 PM
Hi you all,

Another cold day, you guys have all good gifts for your hubbies. My DH is also into hockey, unfortunatly he just got a new jersey a month ago. That would have been a good gift. He needs a new gym membership, maybe I should get that for him, doesn't seem that inspiring to me. He really wants a palm pilot, but I just don't know what kind to get him. He was toying w/ phone/organizer together, something that's compatible w/ work files etc etc. It's soo complicated, I looked into something that would workk w/ his work program and was told that nothing yet is compatible, so should I still just get him a simple one anyway? I suppose he could always exchange it. Electronic stuff is so personal, you just don't know what is best for someone, especially if they don't know themselves.

DH is finally over his flue, so now DS and I have a cold. Go figure. DS is caughing and has a runny nose. Luckly no fever. We have a Christmas party to go to today, I'm definitly not in the mood, but it may be good to get out of the house. I put that new suit I got for DS, he will look soo cute, no doubt he will get it all wet from his drool and runny nose, poor thing.

Kierrasmommy, DS occasionally rolls over, he is more interested in sitting up and standing up. When I put him on his tummy, he tries to crawl (sp?). It's so funny, he looks like a worm, his legs go straight, his bum high in the air and his head down.lol.

DS also had his second shots yesterday, cried a little bit, but at least I didn't cry this time. When he was crying I swear it sounded like he was saying "whyyyy, whyy, why". He is now 19lbs 6oz and 27.5inches. My gosh, he will soon outgrow his carseat, I thought it was going to last until he was 1yr old...fat chance.

Laur77, my DS is also not sleeping well. I was too used to 8pm to 10am sleep w/ one wake up call, and the last 2 wks, it's been every 2hrs again. He doesn't want to sleep, he wants to eat. B/c he's been sick, I've had him in bed w/ me, and last night I woke up at about 3am b/c of sore back. Well it was my dear son, who attached himself like a leach, and was pinching and kicking me. When I said 'ouch, stop that', he laughed, and started blowing bubbles. How can you be mad.

Have any of you gotten an umbrella stroller? are they all the same? does yours have features that you like or don't like? I'm thinking of getting one. Well, should go and lie down, as always it's good to hear from you all.

kierrasmommy
12-16-2005, 09:25 PM
Kiedy,
Sorry you and the little one are sick, that always sucks! I think Kierra was about 9 months old when she outgrew her baby carrier seat, she was small though she only weighed 18-19lbs so she hadn't hit the weight restriction yet but she was too long, she was 27 1/2 inches and our seat was up to 26inches....Check your seat for it's specifications, alot have the sticker right on the seat itself, if not look in the manual or online for that specific model. Most are only to 20lbs and something like 24 inches tall...the model we have allows a bit more weight (26lbs) and 26 inches for height ...I had actually waited too long to put her in a bigger seat because I didn't know about the height thing, I was waiting for her to weigh 26lbs, but a friend of mine told me about the height thing and sure enough when I looked she was already over the height limit so we got the bigger seat installed the very next day...my neighbours daughter actually just got a ticket last month for that, the police have been doing carseat checks when they pull you over, her baby didn't weigh enough but was too tall.

We have an umbrella stroller but we rarely use it because it doesn't have alot of space to carry the diaper bag and parcels...we bought ours for camping mostly, but if you do get one I suggest getting one that has a space for parcels but also the built in canopy for shade in the summer months, ours didn't have that and I wish it did...didn't think of it at the time. It would work nice to block the sun and if the little one needs to nap you can drape a light blanket over the canopy for easier napping.

Kaden wants to sit up and stand too, he is also very choosy about what he does during the day now...he doesn't like his bouncy chair for very long, as well as his exersaucer...so the only 2 things I can do with him if I need to get some stuff done is either put him in his swing, or in his jolly jumper...he prefers the jolly jumper the most though. He is OK for a little while on his back on his playmat too but he is getting kinda picky with that as well.

For your husbands gift, I would just get a decent palm pilot and after he opens it tell him he can exchange it for another model if he saw a different one that he would prefer.

Well, I guess I will be shopping next week with all the crazy last minute maniacs! I didn't get paid STILL! On Tuesday the lady from the Unemployment office said it should be today or Monday at the latest, but with my luck I didn't get it today so all I have to say is it better be there Monday or someone is not going to like speaking to me on Monday...it's been a week and a half since I got paid last but they shorted me 1/2 my pay that time so I am not too happy with them right now.

I still haven't decided if we should let Kierra go to our Friends Christmas Party on Sunday. She is better but she still coughs a bit. It has loosened up since she started the antibiotics though. I just don't want to take her and have her get other kids sick...if it's even contageous. Or have other parents be offended that I brought her when she has a cough...some people are picky that way, I know I am....I don't want my kids to get sick, so I don't like when people bring their kids out to functions when it's clearly obvious they should be at home getting better. Kierra doesn't cough much though and when she does, she covers her mouth all the time...(I am picky about manners and common sense like covering your mouth when you cough) My best friend thinks because Kierra has been on medication all week and doesn't seem too sick at all that we should take her, but I just don't know...what do you guys think, would you be offended if a friends kid was at a party with a cough (even if she covered her mouth when she coughed)? I even thought about if we did go, I would keep those antbacterial wet wipes with me and when Kierra coughed I'd santize her hands...geez I sound like one of those insane Moms don't I?

Well, I should go, talk to you all soon, take care.
Joanne

S&J
12-17-2005, 03:16 PM
HI everyone! I have a question about cereal.
Troy is breastfeeding about every3-3.5hours..i was giving him a few teaspoons of cereal after the morning feed....When can i start giving him more? Should i just feed him off one side and then give him some cereal? And what if i just breastfeed him and then maybe an hour later offer him some cereal? I'm concerned about him getting thirsty if i just offer him cereal...because for sure the water/formula/breastmilk doesn't quench his thirst? I hope i haven't confused any of you!! I've also started trying to give him some water in a sippy cup.

As for the tummy time..he will stay on his tummy for only a few minutes still and hasn't rolled over. When i roll him almost on his tummy he will roll back onto his back. He still hasn't rolled to his side..i've tried laying beside him and putting toys to his side so he'll try and reach for them but nope he hasn't done that on his own...should i be concerned? Is there anyone else out there whose baby hasn't rolled on their side/tummy yet?

Other than that he's doing fine everywhere else..loves his jollyjumper..can sit alone for a few seconds...laughs..is cooing...grasping his toys and trying to put things in his mouth...tries to sit up when he's in his bouncy chair and swing..and he doesn't like to be in his bouncy chair and swing for long either.

Also i have to get my gall bladder out in Jan as i have mulitple stones!! ewww i haven't really had surgery before..it's only a day thing but being put out kind of scares me!
Well...i better get packing as dh, Troy and I are heading to Sask. to see his mom tommorow for a few days!

Talk to you all soon!
S :)

kierrasmommy
12-17-2005, 04:55 PM
S&J,
If he still seems hungry I would start increasing the cereal...I have had better luck feeding Kaden cereal first (I pump milk to mix in his cereal) and after he has eaten letting him breastfeed to fill the reminder of his belly...and to wash down the cereal. By pumping then nursing again right after I haven't decreased my milk supply at all.

I know it is harder for them to roll from their back to thier tummy, that usually comes later, but rolling off their belly onto their back is more common around this age. Kaden still fogets how to sometimes....somedays he has rolled over witin a minute other days he just gets mad until I help him roll over because he can't get himself over.

Yeah, Kadens favorite place is his jolly jumper, I think that is what spoiled his interest in his bouncy chair and exersaucer...now that he can bounce all by himself thats al her wants to do...or be held by Mom.

My sister was pretty sore for a couple weeks after her gallbladder was removed, make sure you have extra help and if DH can take some time off work that would be best. I don't recall but I don't think you'd be able to lift/carry Troy for a few weeks until you heal. I'm sure the Dr will advise you on all that.

DH's family is coming here from Saskatchewan. What a small word hey?

Well, gotta go Kaden just woke up.
Talk to you soon,
Joanne

Boo Boo
12-17-2005, 06:58 PM
Hi all, :)

Annaum doesn't like tummy time too much, but im not too concerned about this just yet. Her feeding patterns or rather intake has gone off on one again. She may drink 2-3 ounces and then nothing for 2 hours, and then a few more ounces and then nothing again? anyone else finding this? she has also started to bring some milk up straight after she has burped, so l can cope with this but then when she brings out a bit more unexpectedly l get worried :( This has been happening for about 3 days also does not get to sleep as easy as she used to. Im not sure if this is a 1 offrough patches? l mean she does not appear to be poorly. I then thought it may have something to do with me refrigerating some of her formula milk when she had not finished it I then took it out about an hour later warmed it up and gave it to Annaum. I do not do this normally so im not sure and have not done this again? ANY ADVISED PLEASE?:)

Anyway we are off to my parents for the christmas period, l shall be staying there with Annaum for 2 weeks. I am also planning on organising a community fate for the disaster earthquake that took place in SouthEast Asia. I think this will take place in March 2006. Anyway l will have to know love yo uand leave you.

Boo Boo
12-17-2005, 07:02 PM
Kierrasmommie,

p.s. so l take it you may be the old fogie out of all of us then :) lol well the more experienced and wiser hey? :)

kierrasmommy
12-18-2005, 10:54 PM
Heeeey...I may be older, but I'm no fogie! LOL, we aren't all that far apart someone was pretty close to 30...keep in mind, most of you are on baby#1 and this was baby #2 for me, so when I was in your positions I was the same age. We also waited 10 years to have baby#1. DH and I have been together for 14 years as of next month.

Well, I went with Kaden to the Christmas party, DH satyed home with Kierra, he didn't think she should go...although after I got there I realized most of the other kids had the same cough so she could have gone. Kaden was really good, he was so smiley and happy, but he was heavy! I brought his carseat carrier in but he didn't want to be in there so I passed him around to all the adults. LOL He'll be 4 months old tomorrow, I have to get him weighed again. I can't believe how fast this has gone already. I wish I could slow down time.

Well, I should go. Talk to you soon,
Joanne

P.S Boo,
I was never sure about reheating so I avoided it, I really am not sure about it though. But cluster feeding could be just a growth spurt...maybe she doesn't seem to be eating much but only because she isn't as hungry as she didn't eat very long before that. I wouldn't be too concerned unless she is projectile puking, of throwing up more than a couple tablespoons each time or shows other signs of illness. Kaden still spits up (and has since birth) every time I nurse him, he doesn't if it's cereal though, the thicker consistency seems to help him out in that aspect. Keep us updated on how she is doing.

Kiedy
12-19-2005, 06:04 PM
Booboo, I think I remember reading that you should not reheat breast milk twice, but not sure if this is the same for formula, if you feed him the again an hour later, can you not leave the milk out on the counter? Again I just know that breast milk is good at room temp for 24hrs. The spit up could be nothing, my DS usually never spits up, but occasionally there will be days where he will spit up a lot, I just figure I didn't burp him enough.

S&J too bad about your gallstone problems, it's a good thing we don't need our gallbladder. At least after the surgery you will no longer have the recurrent pain.

Kierrasmommy, thanks for the advice on the stroller. I agree, they don't look very practicle, but I thought they would be easier to travel w/, shopping and airports. But I guess the fact that you can't store anything on most would be a hassle. I just like how compact they are. My gracco one, takes so much of my trunk space eventhough it collapses in half, but I can put like 100 bags ungerneath it and on the handles. I guess there is a tradeoff. Luckly the umbralla strollers are pretty cheap usually.

We are finally feeling better, I think it was cold and not flue. Went to our first christmas party this past fri, DS looked soo cute in his new suit. Cost me $50 but it was worth it, I have couple more parties to go to, so in his suit he will be, also it is for 12mo old, so hopefully, I will have other opportunities to have him wear it.

have to go to the bank, talk to you later.

Boo Boo
12-20-2005, 02:18 PM
Hi all, :)

Annaum is much better im just a worrier. Her spitting milk thing calmed down and she does do it like once a day but im ok with it, Thanks all.

Kierrasmommie, l know what yo umean about you having your second baby, l think its good to do it that close. I got married when l was 25 and pregnant when l was 27, and now im 28, and will wait for at least another 2-3 yrs to have a second baby by then l will be 31-32.

I had Annaum weighd last Thursday and she was 14 ibs and 9 ounces and is 16 weeks. She feeds every 2-to 2 and a half hours. Im staying at my parents, and Annaum sleeps in the bed with me but boy am l cautious. I have 2 pillows either side of her and constantly keep checking on her in the nite. Hopefully l can get her atravel cot by next week. Although my mum keeps tlling me to leave it as we dont have too much of a grand space in our own home and l dont really come over to my parents to sty that often. So im not sure what to do? ADVISE PLEASE. :)

ALSO ARE ANY OF YOU MUMS PLANNING TO GO BACK TO WORK? OR ARE ON MATERNITY LEAVE LIKE ME AT THE MOMENT?

kierrasmommy
12-20-2005, 03:06 PM
Kiedy,
I would still get one, we keep ours in the back of the van with our other stroller...they don't take up much space and if you know you aren't going to need to carry alot of parcels then you can just decide at the moment which stroller works best.

The suit sounds so cute! Kaden has a cute white dress shirt with a dressy red with black trim sweater vest and black cord pants for his Christmas outfit, he looks like such a cute little man in it.

Boo,
See you'll be the old fogie when yu have baby #2 too. LOL

Kaden still spits up every time I nurse him so I wouldn't worry...he is great on cereal though, because it's thicker he doesn't spit it up. Kaden has a habit of puking all over his daddy, but lastnight it was me.

I would look at the cheaper brands of travel cots if you aren't going to use it very often, do you get Boxing Day sales there after Christmas? Maybe see if you can find a great deal then. We bought our playpen (I think thats the same as what you call a travel cot) and ours was discounted because it had been a display model and it had a small hole in the mesh...but I was able to fix the small hole very easily, you can't even see where it is. We used ours for camping and travelling, and with Kaden we used it as his bassinet in our room for the first few weeks...it had a built in bassinette with music, lightlight, and vibration options. I figured it would get plenty of use between both kids and once we are done with it we will probably sell it in a garage sale or to friends or family for cheap.

I brought Kaden to get weighed yesturday because he was exactly 4 months old and he weighed 16lbs 12oz and is 25inches long so I only have 1 inch left before he needs to be in the bigger carseat. I will probably install it this week becase it is pretty nice weather right now...considering it is winter. Might as well do it now while it's warm then wait a couple weeks until he is 26inches and freeze my butt trying to install the seat....the only part I'm not looking forward too is once he is in there, there's no just unlatching the carrier and carrying him around...he needs to be unbuckled and taken out...which sucks when they are sleeping and you have to disturb them. I better find his snowsuit I guess...he hasn't had to wear it so far because his carrier had the warm cover over it so it kept him very warm...but now he'll need his snowsuit.

Well, I should go, Talk to you soon
Joanne

P.S I'm still waiting for my EI money! They proccessed it but it didn't work so they fixed it again and now I should finnlly get money tomorrow...Boo, I'm on maternity leave until August when my money runs out...but DH is going to take some courses next month and possibly change carreers so he will make more money and I will be able to stay home with the kids until they are both in school. I'm looking into taking some online correspondance to upgrade and then start taking some courses for radiology (Xray and ultrasound) So hopefully by the time the kids are both in school I can go right into my new carreer too.

Laur77
12-20-2005, 03:57 PM
Boo-I've heard that you shouldn't reuse any milk/formula/cereal that they have already eaten out of after an hour because there can be bacteria growth. As for going back to work, I would really like to be able to stay home until DS (and future children) are in school. Or maybe just work a couple days a week, more to get out of the house. Will have to see where we are financially once unemployment runs out. My hubby is working on starting his own business, so if that works out I will do the administrative work for him and can do that from home, which would be wonderful!

S&J-I give DS a couple tablespoons of cereal first, then BF right after. He seems to be pretty happy with that (except sometimes he gets pretty mad when the cereal ends and I can't get him on the breast fast enough!!).

kierrasmommy-I'm an x-ray tech! I was going to go into ultrasound, but changed my mind once I started making money, lol. Always hard to go back to school after that. Plus then I got into doing the bone density tests, and I really enjoy that.

kierrasmommy
12-20-2005, 08:44 PM
Laur,
Thats awesome! How many years schooling was it. My DH's neice is considering it as well and she said it's 2 years I think (maybe 3). I used to want to go into Respiratory so I could work with neonatals or labor and delivery but I figured my chances of picking where I get is slim, so I would love to go into ultrasound. I am going to go down to the Career Centre after the holidays are over and see what I can do about getting onto online correspondance to upgrade and go from there. With the Xray end of it are there any risks to you, I know you go behind the wall when you activate the xray machine but I've wondered if you still have any risks.

Well, Kaden is being a weiner today, he literally only likes his jolly jumper or being held...if he's tired I can get him in his swing too. So I haven't gotten alot done today...so I'm going to try and get some more stuff done now while he is in his jolly jumper yet again...tomorrow and Thursday I have a ton of running around and shopping to get done then Friday it'll be cleaning the house and preparing for houseguests...then it's Christmas! So I'll come back when I have a chance to chat...Talk to you all soon.
Joanne

Kiedy
12-22-2005, 01:52 AM
Boo
When we travel to places that don't have a play pan for DS to sleep in, he just sleeps in his stroller. I just put it all the way down so it's flat and line it w/ his favorite blanket. It has worked well for us, and this way you don't have to buy unnecessary cots (since you don't use them). When he was youger he slept in his car seat, but now we often don't bring it w/ us, but we almost always travel w/ our stroller.

S&J
12-22-2005, 11:33 PM
Hello all..
Thanks for your thoughts about the gallbladder thing....:) I'm not looking forward to it but i'm sure i'll feel a lot better after it's out. I've started trying to giveTroy a bottle once a day so he gets used to it again because my mom and dad will be taking him while i'm at the hospital for the day...he did take it fine in the beginning but this last month and a half i've been around to feed him myself and now that i'm trying to give him a bottle again he won't take it....from my mom, dad or dh. And if he does he'llonly have 3-4 oz...i thought that was all he wanted to eat so i said not to try and give him more..but then an hour later he's hungry again....but he'll go 3 hours if i breastfeed him! Any comments?

I've also started giving Troy his cereal before breastfeeding and that's working better! (once a day)Thanks for the suggestions! When will you guys start the other cereals and jar food?

Oh yeah if it's not too much trouble could you ladies quickly tell me how your feeding schedule goes with the cereal and breast/bottle feeding? I'm getting tired of wasting my milk that i've pumped in the bottles....and is it ok to use the same bottle within the hour of giving it to them? For example i might put 6oz in Troy's bottle and if he's fussing and won't take the bottle at that time and may only drink about 1oz..is it ok to keep trying to give it to him or do i have to throw it out? Thanks ladies!

HAppy Holidays!
S, J & T :)

Boo Boo
12-23-2005, 12:55 PM
Hi all, this is a long one but not too boring l hope.

Kierrasmommie, yes we do have boxing day so l will have a look round then, but l think im going to try not to get one now. As l have had Annaum sleep in my bed, but separate bedding etc and been very precautious and so far its been fine. I think l agree with Kiedy and try to avoid spending money which l havent really got! :( and l am hoping ot buy Annaum a lot of clothes and a coat as she has out grown her previous 2!:rolleyes:

S&J, l am going to wait till 6 months before l give Annaum any foods. She is 4 months and one week and weighs 15.9 ozs l guess as she was 14.9 last week. Im not sure on how many inches will post up later. I will stick to this untill l see an increase for her appetite.

Thanks all for getting back and letting me know about Maternity leave. In the U.K. WE GET 6 MONTHS pay and 3 months is kind of your full salary and the other 3 months you will get like £400 less then what you would normally get :( My maternity pay finishes at the end of Jan and Feb l wont get a single penny. I really need to go back to work sometime in March but it really depends on my mother in law as she is going away on holiday for three months and will return in March.
Im not looking forward to leaving my dd with her as she is a bit funny about me leaving her :eek: and she hasnt really told me what date she is returning. Anyway its my husbands idea as we can not afford to put Annaum in a nursey, its not that they wont take good care of her its just my mother in law kind of makes me feel like an outsider. Anyway this is another story. Also as you know dh has started he's own business so he has additional costs.

I also did not tell you ladies about what happend when l went into work like 2 weeks ago, there are going to be some changes in the NHS and im not sure if my job is safe. My manager made me feel really uncomfortable. I came away from my meeting with him thinking that if we merge with this other organisation my job may be advertised and l may have to reapply meaning more revision more prep work, which l just dont fancy. Its going to be a hurdle, if it does come to this l will have to bite the bullet and revise and apply and see what happens but l can not afford to take a cout in my salary. I dont mind if my role change sbut my slalary doesnt as l have too m,uch responsibilty and dont really get paid to the level l should. If push came to shove l know the maternity policy well and l know what my rites are. Anuhow im so sorry to have gone on so much but its just stress isnt it. I wish l could take the whole year off! PLEASE LET ME KNOW YOUR THOUGHTS ALL.

Anyway take care all and l hope you all have a very happy xmas and New year to your little ones xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx from Heena (boo boo) Ibrar (hubby who found this board) and my baby Annaum :bouncing:

kierrasmommy
12-23-2005, 05:29 PM
Hi S&J
I was wondering the same thing about the breastmilk, I tend to only pump just enough for his cereal so I don't waste any, but I too need to start getting more firm with him taking a bottle so I will need to know the same thing...Kaden is doing the same thing with refusing the bottle...In November when I went to DH's Christmas party he drank very little of it but was obviuosly hungry, I guess if they are hungry enough they'll eat, but it is so stressful when they refuse to like that.

Boo, Sorry that work seems to be stressing you already, I hope it all works out for you. My pediatrician said I can start other cereals and solids at 4 1/2 or 5 months because of Kaden's size and his reflux problem.

I have one quick story to share...Kierra got a gingerbread house from my grandpa's wife the other day and I have been giving her a candy here and there off of it after her meals...well the other day I went to change the load of laundry and not long after realized Kierra had chewed off about 9 jelly beans...the reason I know this is because the other half of the jelly beans are still on the house with teeth marks. What a little weiner!

Well, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, talk to you all soon, Take care, Joanne

kierrasmommy
12-27-2005, 02:23 PM
Hi Everyone,
Hope you all had a great Christmas! We enjoyed ours, Kaden got lots of clothes and some cool toys too, he especially likes his LeapFrog caterpillar. Kierra got lots of toys and pj's, she is really into Barbie now so she has been devoting most of her time to her 3 new Barbies. I got perfume, a watch, a wallet, a scarf, a MP3 player, a gift certificate for Old Navy, chocolates, and a suitcase style tote for all my scrapbook supplies....I got 2 of those so I have to return one.

We celebrated Christmas Eve at DH's brothers place, DH's Mom and Stepdad, and younger brother and his fiance met Kaden for the first time (they are from another province than us, Saskatchewan) We opened some presents there and visited and had finger food snacks.

Christmas Day we stayed home. First we had a big breakfast (we started cooking while we waited for Kierra to wake up, which wasn't long after we started making it) then opened our presents. Then I started making the big dinner...which turned out awesome. It was my sister and her husband and my 2 nephews and one nephews girlfriend plus DH and I and the kids. All DH's family went to his brothers place again for dinner there. After dinner we helped Kierra open her toys and play with them, then when she went to bed we played cards.

Yesturday I didn't even try to venture out for boxing day deals...but DH's brother and his fiance did so I had them pick up one thing for me. I figure I'll wait for the big shopping rush to die down a bit before I go. We went over to DH's brothers place one more time to visit before his Mom and stepdad went back home.

Now I just want to catch up on sleep...and laundry! All these new clothes have to be washed. Well, hope you all got spoiled from Santa. Talk to you soon.
Joanne

S&J
12-27-2005, 02:36 PM
Hi everyone!
I hope you all had grrreat Christmas! I know we sure did and Troy got such wonderful things...he really got spoiled!

I've started Troy on some Barley cereal this morning and he took it great! He's also starting to finally take a bottle a lot better too. Dh and I are going to a friends place on new years and my mom and dad will be taking Troy overnight...and i'm hoping things will go fine!
Troy is also starting to sleep a lot better through the night..i borrowed one my friends sleepsack..it's called a "Gro Bag" or "grow bag" and it fits Troy a lot better than the last ones i've bought and he's going to bed around 8 and wakes at 5am for a feed and then goes back to sleep until about 8am! Except last night he was awake at 2:30am to eat..i'm wondering if it's because he didn't have any cereal at all yesterday and his tummy wasn't full?

This morning I decided to try something different when i fed him his cereal...i breastfed him at 7am and gave him 4teaspoons of cereal at 9am and then 4oz of breastmilk in a bottle at 10am...and he seems to be fine..I'll then nurse him around 1pm (hopefully he'll go 3 hours between feeds) and then i'll nurse him at 4pm and then offer him some cereal at 5pm and then breastfeed around 7pm and then once more before bed...how does that sound? I hope it works...i hope this wasn't confusing to read either! :)

Well i better get going!
talk to you all soon!
S :)

S&J
12-27-2005, 02:41 PM
Kierrasmommy..Troy got the caterpillar too! and loves listening to it!
I got a one hour aromatherapy massage at Oasis...a painting...wintercoat...clothes...body scrub, wash and lotion from Oasis....books..and some more things but i forget!
Troy got the fisher price dinosaur toy and loves watching the balls got through..he also got a sleigh with the curved back and warm liner..a lot of books..clothes...farm animals...tools..and more but i'mforgetting that too!

K i better get going..i just saw your new post and wanted to respond!
Bye!
S :)

kierrasmommy
12-27-2005, 06:16 PM
LOL Sounds like everyone got spoiled at your house too.

I forgot to mention, Kaden has recently discovered how to squeal, and boy can he be loud! He is almost rolling from his back to his tummy too, he gets right over and turns his head as far under as he can, I think the only think stopping him is his big popeye arm getting in the way.

I haven't tried any different foods with Kaden yet, but I will buy some when I go shopping next. We did let him taste a pickle Christmas Eve...he didn't like it, his pouty lip came out and he cried, I felt so bad for trying it, someone had suggested letting him just taste it, at first I said no then I ended up trying it but was sorry for it after.

I think everyone ends up getting their own feeding schedule with what works for them so what you are doing sounds fine to me. But watch your milk supply, if you aren't pumping or feeding between you may end up training your boobies to slow down milk production so it only produces more when you have been breastfeeding...if that's what you are aiming for then great. I plan to breastfeed until 9 or 10 months so I have been pumping milk to mix in the cereal, feeding cereal, then breastfeeding right after so it hasn't affected my milk at all, but I guess it all depends on if you want to wean or how often you want to breastfeed etc.

What do you guys do if you go out? I have been just nursing if we go out because I don't want to have to pump milk to mix with the cereal, but I guess I need to start doing something, maybe pump before hand and bring it, but then heating it may be tricky depending on where I go.

Well, I should go. Can't wait to hear about everyone elses Christmas too. Talk to you soon.

S&J
12-27-2005, 07:35 PM
I plan to breastfeed as long as Troy wants....maybe for a few more months. He eats every 3 hours so i thought i could give him some cereal in between a couple of feeds...i do pump when he was a bottle. I also just nurse him when we go out..I also mix his cereal with water so it's easier to mix if and when we do end up feeding him cereal away from the house.
How much cereal do you give Kaden before you breastfeed him? I've given Troy a few teaspoons and then he eats that and then i breastfeed..i've found that he'll overeat and spit a lot of it out..and i've tried giving him the cereal after he breastfeeds but then he doesn't want much..so i thought maybe an hour or half an hour before he nurses i could give him some.

Also i found out that after i get my gallbladder out I can't lift anything over 5lbs for 4-6 weeks!!!! I'm going to need someone all day so they can carry Troy and change him and carry him to me so i can feed him....it's going to be sad! :( Luckily my dh works shiftwork and is around and when he's on nights my parents will stay and help through the night and early morning. But i have to think that i'm going to feel much better after it's out and i'll never have to deal with the pain again!

Troy is also squealing! he really goes when he's in his jolly jumper! That's awesome that Kaden is rolling! Troy still isn't..he will roll from his side (when i've positioned him that way and he's almost on his tummy) and he'll push himself onto his back..that's about it....hopefully in the new year he'll just discover rolling and do it all the time..it'llmake me feel much better! :)

Well i better get going my bestfriend from Edmonton :) is coming and i have to get the guest room ready!

talk to everyone later!
S :)

USPS84
12-27-2005, 08:05 PM
I'm back!!

It got insane at work with Christmas season, and I actually hadn't logged in since November 6th!! I guess I have a ton of reading back to do...

Hope all of your babies are doing well...Julie was hospitalized in November for 8 days. She had a very high fever (104), and it wouldn't go away for 72 hours. They found out on the 6th day that it was a Urinary Tract Infection, caused by the bacteria that causes menengitis! That is why she was in there for such a long time...they needed to rule everything out. It was the saddest, lonliest 8 days ever!
She is fine now...5 months and 2 weeks yesterday. No teeth, JUST started eating cereal. They said to give it to her at 3 months, and she just wanted nothing to do with it. Now she eats about 6 (gerber baby) spoonfuls in the morning. I think she's about 17 lbs, and 27 inches long. She is IN LOVE with Dora the Explorer!!! We stuffed her Christmas stocking full of Dora stuff!

Hope you all had a wonderful holiday, too!

kierrasmommy
12-27-2005, 11:27 PM
S&J
Sounds like our little guys are much the same when it comes to wanting to eat about every 3 hours! LOL. Kaden can eat about 6tbsps of cereal mixed with about 4 tablespoons of milk then he'll nurse for a bit afterward as well.

He isn't quite rolling onto his belly yet but it's close, and he has rolled from his belly to his back lots but goes through spurts where he forgets how to and doesn't do it...he is doing that right now again.

USPS,
My gosh! I'm so glad Julie is better, that must have been so scary!

Well, I should go Kaden is cranky today, I gave him to DH so I could have a break. Talk to you tomorrow.
Joanne

S&J
12-28-2005, 11:25 AM
Usps...I'm glad to hear that Julie is better. Wow...she loves Dora! That's sooo cute!

Kierrasmommy...wow 8 tbsp!! I've tried 1 tablespoon and a half and he doesn't even finish that off! I'm going to try 2 tbsp this morning right before he nurses and i'll see how that goes...i'm always trying different things each day and hopefully i'll find a good medium!

Troy slept great last night! Went to sleep at about 9:30pm and didn't wake up until 5:45am! I nursed him and then he was wide awake again at 7:30am....it took me a few minutes to fully wake up since i just fell back to sleep when i heard him "talking" and it's harder waking up because it's so dark outside these days in the morning...i remember when we first brought Troy home in July....it was sooooo light!!

Well.....i better get going!
be back later!
S :)

kierrasmommy
12-28-2005, 06:59 PM
I don't really count it as 8tbsp...it's 6tbsp of cereal and 4tbsp of milk, I count the dry part so I figure it's 6 tbsps. But I guess when you add the liquid it does make more. Kaden likes his food...I started off at 2 tbsp but he always finished it and wanted more, so each time I increased it. He has had up to 8tbsp of cereal with 5 tbsp of milk but I think that was too much because he puked a few hours later. But 6tbsp seems to work. I don't know if he knows when he's had enough though, because even at 8 tbsp he ate it all.

Well, I gotta get some housework done so I'll chat later.

Hey, do you have any snow in Calgary? It seems so weird not having any snow here in Edmonton. It doesn't feel like Christmas has come and gone. I'm not complaining though, I like the milder weather. The only thing dissappointing is we haven't had enough snow to make snow angels or a snowman yet...I'm sure we'll get snow eventually.

kierrasmommy
12-29-2005, 02:05 PM
OK, I think Kaden is either going through a growth spurt or the little brat just wants to sleep with Mommy! The last several days he's been sleeping horribly, he'll sleep for about 2 hours sometimes less. He seems hungry though because he fusses right up until he latches on then he is quiet, he'll eat for a bit then fall asleep. I feel so drained, weird how easy it was to cope with getting up every 2 hours with a newborn but now that he's 4 months old it turns you into a zombie. Today I'm going to try and cut down his napping and see if he'll take a bottle before bed thickened with cereal and see if that helps....the only thing is I have a ton of running around to do today so I don't know how well we'll do with keeping him from napping so long.

What time is the last nap you give your little ones during the day...and how many hours is that nap before bedtime. I should also mention that Kaden now goes to bed at around 9pm...remember he used to nap at 9 then I'd officially put him to bed after the next feeding and bath....I've changed it to the earlier bedtime, but he had been doing well with it for the first while so I think the sleep issue I mentioned above is unrelated to that.

I forgot to tell you something else, the last few days when Kaden goes for a nap, when he wakes up he cries until we come into his room to get him, but AS SOON as he sees the door open he shuts right up and smiles....like he's saying, "Ha Ha made you look!" :D

Well, I should go get ready and get going. Talk to you tonight.

S&J
12-29-2005, 08:29 PM
I'm about an hour east of Calgary..and there's no snow here..i looove winter and can't wait until we get a huge snowfall!
And guess what everyone!!!! Troy finally rolled from his tummy to his back...he can only do it when i position his arms a certain way but still he did it..and he did it 6 times today!!! He's 5 mos and 4 days old....i'm sooo excited!!!

Kierrasmommy- Maybe Kaden is going through a growth spurt....I hope it passes soon!
Hopefully the thickened bottle will help..i noticed that Troy will sleep through the night it he's had his fill of cereal twice during the day and if he hasn't he wakes up once to feed.....
Before Troy's last feed of the day he'll have a half hour nap....and that's how all of his naps have been since he was born...he'll eat..stay up for an hour and then sleep for half an hour and then be up and play for a bit and then eat and so on. Once in a blue moon he'll sleep for 45min to an hour.

Has everyone started feeding their little ones cereal yet? And how;s it going? And has anyone started beginner jar food? I've noticed that Troy's bm have thickened up quite a bit after starting his cereal! Who knew that i would be so interested in that sort of thing!!:) haha

Well..take care everyone and talk to you soon!
S :)

Boo Boo
12-30-2005, 09:13 AM
Hi all,

Annaum has this week started to stand up with support on her legs and she does not wobble either! she can also sit up with assistance too:)


Its good to hear that you all had a great christmas.

USP,:wave:Hurray! l am sooooo glad to hear from you and i'm pleased that Julie is well, l hope you are too, as l can imagine how hard it must have been for you too. Sounds like work was crazy but in your area this time of year is! :(

Well l am so sorry l can not add to Kierrasmommie and S&J discussion about all this weaning thing, as you know l have not started to wean Annaum yet she is 4 months and 3 weeks old. l think she must weigh 17lbs although l am going to get her weighed next week. I am going t wait till she is 6 months to wean her, unless she shows signs of weaning.

OK LADIES I NEED SOME HELP PLEASE. I have noticed that annuam has lost her appetite for ther past 3 days she does not drink her formula as regulary as she used to. She used to drink it every 3 hours and have 5 feeds a day, yesterday she only had 4 feeds and one was after 5 hours! :( Her poo is a khaki green colour and she had bits of white little spots in? l though tit may be a result from the formula milk not been mixed properly? any one help please? other then this she is content kicking playing. Thanks in advanced.

S&J
12-31-2005, 12:35 PM
Booboo...Troy has done that a few times...once he went 6 hours between a feed one day! I was sooo worried..but he seemed fine and was back to normal after a couple of days...i was told that he may not have been as hungry and if he seems ok and has normal wet diapers i shouldn't worry. I'm not sure what the white spots are in Annuams diaper...how are things now?

S :)

Spanish
01-01-2006, 10:01 AM
Hello All! Happy New Year! :D

I've just been trying to catch up on all your posts but DH is bugging me to get on the computer so I'll just post a little update and catch up with all your news later.

We are still struggling a bit with sleeping but may have had a breakthrough in the last couple of nights. Two night ago DH and I had been trying to get her down for the night for 1 1/2 hours. She had a full tummy and dry nappy and she'd even had a dose of calpol incase she was in pain from teething or something. We were rocking her to sleep in our arms and then laying her down and between us we'd had her asleep five times but she woke up and cried every time we put her down. Finally, in desperation we said "lets just leave her for ten minutes to give us a break and then we'll go back and start again". Well, or course she screamed for a bit but, surprise of my life, ten minutes later she was fast asleep!!!! So last night I did the same thing, rocked her to sleep in my arms and layed her down. She woke up a couple of minutes later and starting screaming but I left her ten minutes and she went right back to sleep. I feel kind of bad for leaving her to cry herself to sleep, but really what else could we have done? I think perhaps it was the best thing to do because although she yelled for a bit she did go to sleep rather than us picking her up and putting her down over and over again which was perhaps disturbing her more. Maybe I'll have to try the same thing with her daytime naps. At the moment I usually walk out with the pram to get her to sleep.

We've just started her on cereal (she'll be 5months this week) and she loves it! She grabs the spoon and shoves it in her mouth and in between mouthfulls she waves her arms and legs about like crazy. I don't really know how much to give her or how often so I posted a seperate thread about that. It's fun giving her somthing other than milk...I might try a bit of carrot tomorrow....

She can now roll from her back to her tummy but hasn't worked out how to go back the other way. On Christmas Eve she sat up on her own for the first time. She's getting quite good at it now but can only manage for a short time before she tips over to the side. It's so funny to watch.

H has also had her first tumble. I fell down the stairs whilst I was carrying her :eek: It was awful! All these images of her tumbling all the way down and landing in a crumpled heap at the bottom flashed through my mind. But luckily I just bumped down a few steps on my bum and she hardly even dropped out of my arms. She just slipped sideways on to a step at the last moment. She howled for a few moments and I was in absolute floods of tears. I'm sure she wasn't hurt at all, I think I just scared her because I cried out as I slipped and then I was crying myself. My Mum was there and she gave us both loads of hugs and lots of hot sweet tea for me. ;) I'm now so careful going up or down stairs. I go really slowly and make sure I place each foot carefully with my heel back against the stair so I can't slip down again. It's frightening how quickly these things happen isn't it?

Hope you and your little ones are all well.

Spanish

kierrasmommy
01-01-2006, 08:08 PM
HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE!!!! :bouncing:

S&J,
Well, I tried the bottle before bed with a bit of cereal in it, but as usual Kaden refuses to drink from anything except his Mommy! I was lucky if I got a half of an ounce in him and that was only by bouncing myself on the edge of the bed while I held and tried to feed him it. I'm going to dig out the sippy cup tomorrow and see if he'll take that, although I am very doubtful.

Who was it that started their little one on a sippy cup already? And what did you fill it with, I don't know if I should put breastmilk, or water or diluted apple juice...I'm thinking the diluted apple juice may be the trick to getting him to drink it because of the flavor.

We finally got a dusting of snow lastnight(New Years Eve), but not much at all, you can still see the pavement through it. I wish we had a snowfall as well, (with mild weather) so I could take pictures of the kids in the snow...OH! That reminds me I had to buy a winter coat for Kaden now that he will be out of his baby carrier (which had a nice cozy and warm cover so he didn't need a coat) I found the cutest 3-in-1 ski jacket at Children's Place for $29.00cdn. It has a zip out fleece jacket that he can wear in the spring or he can wear the liner alone as well, or wear the 2 zipped together. A friend of ours came over the day after I bought it and he had an adult Columbia jacket, that looked so much like Kaden's I laughed, it was the same colors and everything!

We didn't do anything for the big countdown. I had both kids in bed by 9:30. So I watched a bit of TV while DH watched his shows on another TV. Then I went for a nice shower and bath...only to be interupted by Kadens crying....2 hours after he went to bed again! DH took him downstairs while I got dressed, by then it was 11:45 so I made rootbeer floats for DH and I to drink the new year in with. Kaden was eyeing my float so I gave him the teeniest taste of the icecream, he didn't like it, I think it was too cold. I also tried Nestle's starter Oat cereal on Kaden the other day, he didn't like it very much, he loves the rice cereal still though. I bought a few jars of the starter vegetables as well, but I am going to wait until next week to give them to him, to make sure he adjusts to the oat cereal first.

Today I took out the carseat carrier base and installed the child car seat for Kaden. We haven't gone anywhere yet in it though.

Boo,
It's normal for them to go through different feeding spurts. Like S&J said, as long as there are wet diapers and she seems normal I wouldn't worry. Thats great that Annaum is standing and sitting with support. Kaden always seems to tip forward over his feet when he tries to sit.

In the UK do you consider feeding them cereal as weaning? I haven't considered myself as weaning Kaden because I pump the breastmilk I mix in his cereal then have him nurse afterward as well, I plan on breastfeeding at least until he is 9 months old, but also introducing him baby foods as a supplement in between or in conjunction with breastfeeding.

Spanish,
:eek: I'm glad you both are ok after your slip. I am always paranoid of falling down the stairs too and get that creepy scary feeling just as I take the first step down the steps...scared I misjudged and will fall down. I fell down a couple of stairs a couple years ago and boy was my butt black and blue!

Well, I should go, talk to you all again soon.
Take care,
Joanne

S&J
01-02-2006, 12:13 PM
Kierrasmommy...I think Kaden eventually will take a bottle! I kept trying to give Troy a bottle once a day for the last 2 weeks and then one day he just took it without any fuss! I also let Troy drink from a sippy cup too...he just has water. It took him awhile to try figure out how to get the water out! I use the Avent sippy cup. I like it because the spout is soft and doesn't spill!

Well Troy is still rolling from his tummy to his back but only does it when his arms are positioned a certain way! He can it do it super fast! It;s great!
Also...Troy was born with a lot of hair! He's starting to wear some of it off on the back of his head..i tried my best to have tummy time and he loves to jump in his jolly jumper...has anyone else's babies have a little bit of wear on their heads? I don't want people thinking that he was on his back the whole time! I hope some of it grows back since he's not on his back as much! I've tried letting him nap on his side but he doesn't like that much because he keeps trying to roll onto his back.

Well...he's up to almost 3tbsp of barley cereal twice a day! I finally have found a time to give it to him which is after breastfeeding in the morning and at night. It took a lot of trial and error but it's nice to finally have alittle bit of a schedule! This week i'm going to get the oat cereal and see how thatgoes and then i think there is a wheat cereal too? After all those i'm going to try vegetables...also can i then start using the mixed cereals with fruit?

Well i better get going!
S :)

kierrasmommy
01-02-2006, 04:25 PM
Thats great he is rolling so well, Kaden had to have his arms positioned a certain way in the beginning too, but now he figured out how to move his arms on his own to roll over, I watched him this morning stretch his arm out diagonally in front of him toward the opposite arm and then roll.

I think I have the same sippy cup it has a soft rubber sippy spout right? That was the first one I was able to get Kierra to use, she wouldn't take the hard spout ones at first. I'll keep trying with the bottle too, DH tried the other day and got nowhere, I was able to get a bit into him by bouncing again...he likes to bounce....but I can never get a full ounce or more into him. Man he has a temper.

They didn't have the barley cereal when I went shopping last so I skipped to oat but Kaden doesn't like it as much as the rice so I mix the 2 together. He won't eat as much of it either so I wonder if it is more filling? He could eat 6tbsp of rice cereal, but with the oat he will only eat about 5.

I think after all the first grains(rice, then barley, then oat) are used, you start introducing the jarred foods starting with the vegetables first(Kierras book reccomends these at 5 months), then fruits(6months), then meats(7months), I think the boxes of cereal with fruit say 6 months...I would wait until after you have introduced all the jarred fruits first though, because then you can see if he has a reaction to each one, if not then the cereal will be fine. But if you give the cereal with mixed fruit and there is a reaction you won't know what fruit or what actually caused it.

Well, I should go. Hope that helped. I'll let you know how the sippy cup goes.





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