pa235 10-09-2005, 05:15 PM I was put on foltx for a slightly elevated homocystine
level.
2.5 mgs- folic acid
25 mgs. B-6
2 mgs---B-12
I was reading all this research that the high dose of folic acid was exellant for heart health and even cardiologists were putting their heart patients on it after heart attacks that they proved that it can prevent reinstenoses. Now I just read a post that they are no longer concerned about your homoscytine level and the high dose of folic acid can in fact cause heart attacks and strokes.
Anyone know anything about this? I do not know if I should stop the foltx or not.
Linda
Excelsoir 10-09-2005, 07:53 PM HELLO pa235
I would be interested to learn where you read about the detrimental effects of folic acid. I have taken high doses (15mg/daily) for years, because of atherosclerosis. I take vit. B 6 and B12 for the same reason. A consultant kidney specialist first prescribed these for me because of renal artery stenosis.Obviouly I would be interested in any information concerning folic acid as I take a high dose and have done so for 5-6 years.
Thankyou.
Excelsior
pa235 10-09-2005, 10:04 PM I read this on a chf forum, it is not moderated but it was a post and a few replies that agreed. It has me concerned I called a friend that was just at her cardio and her and her DR. both take foltx. you certainly would think the cardio would have said something, in fact he gave her a script for a generic for Foltx.
I get yearly echo"s done and had a mild aortic stenoses that has now been termed borderline also have mild carotid blockage that the numbers have improved on, so I was thinking this was from the folic acid.
I could not find any thing updated on the pc about this.
I hope I did not upset you, I cerainly did not mean to. I have been taking foltx for about 5 years.
Linda
Excelsoir 10-10-2005, 12:48 AM Hello Linda,
No you did not upset me. I was naturally interested as people have remarked on the high dose I take.I have a stent in my left carotid artery, so I do everything possible to repair the damage done to my arteries, mainly caused by heavy smoking for 30 years or so.I have reason to believe (kidney function tests) that sticking to a low saturated fat diet, exercising, and the folic acid + vit. B6 & 12 have improved my widespread atherosclerosis. The present evidence goes with folic acid,but it is a good idea to follow up on recent research in any case. Good luck and thanks for your reply.
Excelsior
pa235 10-13-2005, 09:42 AM I asked my DR. about the folic acid, she has not heard anything negative about this and also did not seem to believe it as se said all these vits are water soluble.
Linda
Lenin 10-13-2005, 10:18 AM I haven't heard anything about it either,
People have been taking HUGE amounts of folic acid for years without any difficulty.
I take either 1.2 or 2 milligrams a day and have for at least 15 years. I have a stent in my RCA the last 2 years but I;ve never shown high homocysteine. My problem seems to be terminally high Lp(a)'s...alas.
pa235 10-13-2005, 10:33 AM My husband had a heart attack about 3 months ago, had two stents put in. He cardio put him on foltx also, it is suppose to help prevent reinstenoses. Are you taking b-6 and b-12 also? From my understanding you need the b's to absorb the folic acid.
Have a great day, Linda
Lenin 10-14-2005, 09:37 AM Linda,
I pulled out the bottle of B-50's that I've been taking since biblical times! Each tablet contains 50 mcg. B-12, and 50 mg. B-6.
Since these are pills are huge megadoses of B-complex, I usually break them in half.
pa235 10-14-2005, 09:49 AM I think there are 1000 micros in a mgs.( got to recheck that) I am taking 25 mgs b-6 and 2 mgs b-12. This is script vit. that I am taking, but actually is less expensive than buying the amount of folic acid and b's otc.
Linda
Lenin 10-14-2005, 10:02 AM Yes, that's right, Linda, 1000 micros in a milli...so you are taking WHOPPING doses of B-12.
The RDA of B-12 is less than 3 micrograms.
I am going under the assumption that it is the folic acid that is most important so I'm content with that high multi-B supplement plus a huge cheap bottleful of 800 mcg. Folic Acid...I take 2.
pa235 10-14-2005, 10:12 AM I was concerned about all three but did a lot of research on folic acid and found great reports in studies and since they are water soluble what your body does not need it will flush out. The reports I read said you need this amount of the b's to absorb the folic acid.
I wish the other poster would come back and tell us about the b's they are taking, I think they said they are taking 15 mgs of folic acid.
Come to think of it about 5 months ago the b-12 was increased from 1 mg to 2 mgs in the foltx.
Linda
liverock 10-18-2005, 12:20 PM Lenin,
I dont know if this is any help to you.
The following is an extract from one of Dr Robert Atkins books on how he lowered high Lp(a) levels of heart patients in his clinic.
"Perhaps better than any other therapy, nutritional or pharmaceutical, N-Acetyl Cysteine (NAC), eliminates the cardiovascular threat posed by Lp(a). In doses of 2-4grams a day NAC brings Lp(a) down to a less threatening level.
NAC reduces hypertension by relaxing blood vessels and improving blood flow. It might also be useful in treating congestive heart failure. It works well in conjunction with nitroglycerin; the combination opens up the blood vessels 3 times greater."
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