sorepaw
10-30-2005, 09:51 AM
What are some things one can do to raise HDL?
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running_guy
10-30-2005, 10:18 AM
I have had success with the following:
-Avacado
-70% Coca Chocolate (Moderation!!!! :-)
-A tablespooon or two Olive or Canola oil per day
-A glass or two of red wine per day
-daily excercise
-Reduce saturated and trans fat in diet
Good Luck!
-Avacado
-70% Coca Chocolate (Moderation!!!! :-)
-A tablespooon or two Olive or Canola oil per day
-A glass or two of red wine per day
-daily excercise
-Reduce saturated and trans fat in diet
Good Luck!
starsofglass
10-30-2005, 10:28 AM
One glass of orange juice a day usually helps too.
Uff-Da!
10-30-2005, 11:03 AM
Exercise, light to moderate alcohol consumption.
Also cutting down on sugar.
from http://www.hepatitis.org.uk/s-crina/cholesterol.htm
Dr. Sheldon Reiser of the USDA has published research in the 1980's demonstrating that dietary sugar plays a major role in blood cholesterol levels. Reiser has found that a high dietary sugar intake raises blood triglyseride (blood fat) and LDL ("bad") levels, while lowering HDL ("good") levels.
Also cutting down on sugar.
from http://www.hepatitis.org.uk/s-crina/cholesterol.htm
Dr. Sheldon Reiser of the USDA has published research in the 1980's demonstrating that dietary sugar plays a major role in blood cholesterol levels. Reiser has found that a high dietary sugar intake raises blood triglyseride (blood fat) and LDL ("bad") levels, while lowering HDL ("good") levels.
rahod
10-30-2005, 04:41 PM
What are some things one can do to raise HDL?
I agree with other posts..also..eat Omega 3 eggs (one daily)...eat Omega 3 *butter* daily. Might want add almomnds (monosaturated fat).
I agree with other posts..also..eat Omega 3 eggs (one daily)...eat Omega 3 *butter* daily. Might want add almomnds (monosaturated fat).
Lenin
10-31-2005, 10:13 AM
For me three things work:
1. Niacin (300 mg./day)...but I can't bear the flush
2. A bottle of wine a day...but I can't live like that.
3. Lipitor raised my HDL from base line 28 to base line 35 where I remain if I don't drink nor take niacin...but 35 isn't good enough.
Niacin effect is about +10%; booze effect is about +50%.
I exerecise very hard, aerobically (stationary bike) and anaerobically (weights)...absolutely no effect on HDL.
I take 5 grams of fish oil yielding about 1.5 grams DHA + EPA...no effect.
Eat 10 eggs a week...no effect.
An ounce of canola/day (perhaps 2400 mg. ALA Omega-3 acid.)...NADA!
2Tbsp. lecithin per day...no effect.
1. Niacin (300 mg./day)...but I can't bear the flush
2. A bottle of wine a day...but I can't live like that.
3. Lipitor raised my HDL from base line 28 to base line 35 where I remain if I don't drink nor take niacin...but 35 isn't good enough.
Niacin effect is about +10%; booze effect is about +50%.
I exerecise very hard, aerobically (stationary bike) and anaerobically (weights)...absolutely no effect on HDL.
I take 5 grams of fish oil yielding about 1.5 grams DHA + EPA...no effect.
Eat 10 eggs a week...no effect.
An ounce of canola/day (perhaps 2400 mg. ALA Omega-3 acid.)...NADA!
2Tbsp. lecithin per day...no effect.
rahod
11-01-2005, 01:42 AM
>>Eat 10 eggs a week...no effect.<
Omega 3 eggs?
Omega 3 eggs?
Lenin
11-02-2005, 10:03 AM
Quote = rahod
>>Eat 10 eggs a week...no effect.<
Omega 3 eggs?
I'm not sure what you mean rahod?
What are Omega 3 eggs?
>>Eat 10 eggs a week...no effect.<
Omega 3 eggs?
I'm not sure what you mean rahod?
What are Omega 3 eggs?
starsofglass
11-02-2005, 10:22 AM
Omega 3 eggs are eggs laid by chickens that were fed food high in omega 3 (flaxseed etc.)
ARIZONA73
11-02-2005, 08:53 PM
For me three things work:
1. Niacin (300 mg./day)...but I can't bear the flush
2. A bottle of wine a day...but I can't live like that.
3. Lipitor raised my HDL from base line 28 to base line 35 where I remain if I don't drink nor take niacin...but 35 isn't good enough.
Niacin effect is about +10%; booze effect is about +50%.
Lenin, your HDL may get somewhat of an added boost from a standardized garlic supplement, one which has been standardized to contain a minimum of 4000mcg allicin. Personally, I found that I did in fact get a nice boost from it. One such supplement that I would recommend trying is "Maximum Garlic 6500" (aka "Imperial Garlic 6500") from Puritan's Pride. I've been using this one for a few years already, and have never had any gastrointestinal discomfort from it. So, you may want to give this a try. You've got nothing to lose. But give it some time. Take it every day for about a year, and see what happens. If you notice any improvements, then stick with it. :wave:
1. Niacin (300 mg./day)...but I can't bear the flush
2. A bottle of wine a day...but I can't live like that.
3. Lipitor raised my HDL from base line 28 to base line 35 where I remain if I don't drink nor take niacin...but 35 isn't good enough.
Niacin effect is about +10%; booze effect is about +50%.
Lenin, your HDL may get somewhat of an added boost from a standardized garlic supplement, one which has been standardized to contain a minimum of 4000mcg allicin. Personally, I found that I did in fact get a nice boost from it. One such supplement that I would recommend trying is "Maximum Garlic 6500" (aka "Imperial Garlic 6500") from Puritan's Pride. I've been using this one for a few years already, and have never had any gastrointestinal discomfort from it. So, you may want to give this a try. You've got nothing to lose. But give it some time. Take it every day for about a year, and see what happens. If you notice any improvements, then stick with it. :wave:
Lenin
11-03-2005, 09:40 AM
star,
No, regular eggs at $1.19/18 eggs. :D:D I get large amounts of Omega-3 oils from fish oil supplements, fish eaten at least 3 or 4 times a week and canola oil for cooking so I feel no need to go out of my way for more.
Never heard of feeding flax to chickens? How much ALA does one of those eggs contain over and above a "regular" egg?
No, regular eggs at $1.19/18 eggs. :D:D I get large amounts of Omega-3 oils from fish oil supplements, fish eaten at least 3 or 4 times a week and canola oil for cooking so I feel no need to go out of my way for more.
Never heard of feeding flax to chickens? How much ALA does one of those eggs contain over and above a "regular" egg?
pcovers
11-06-2005, 08:16 AM
One glass of orange juice a day usually helps too.
Curious as to the source of this. Is there a study that shows this correlation?
Curious as to the source of this. Is there a study that shows this correlation?
pcovers
11-06-2005, 08:24 AM
Most people look at a set of numbers compared to the previous and try to make some cause and effect and you simply cannot do that. TC, LDL, HDL can all swing significantly with no alteration of diet, excersize, or supplements between testing.
Within the span of two weeks my HDL can moderate as much as 18%. Anyone that gets a test, then takes a supplement hoping for an impact, then tests again seeing a 10pt rise still has no idea if that was in any way impacted by the supplement or diet change. Some regulars here have a long and well established history of numbers to help support their conclusions, but most get a test then do a thing, then get another test and presume they can make sense of what caused the swing and you simply cannot between just two samples.
Within the span of two weeks my HDL can moderate as much as 18%. Anyone that gets a test, then takes a supplement hoping for an impact, then tests again seeing a 10pt rise still has no idea if that was in any way impacted by the supplement or diet change. Some regulars here have a long and well established history of numbers to help support their conclusions, but most get a test then do a thing, then get another test and presume they can make sense of what caused the swing and you simply cannot between just two samples.
starsofglass
11-06-2005, 08:29 AM
Found this on the net:
"Researchers from the University of Western Ontario in London found that flavonoids and limonoids present in orange juice increases the body's HDL cholesterol (so called "good" cholesterol) level, which helps wash out the LDL cholesterol ("the bad" cholesterol) from your system. Other citrus juices, such as grapefruit, also contain these biochemicals. Orange juice is also a good source of Vitamin C.
In this study, patients with high cholesterol began by drinking one glass of orange juice daily for four weeks, eventually consuming three glasses daily for four weeks. The patients then did not drink any juice for five weeks and had their cholesterol tested again.
The results showed that while LDL cholesterol did not go down, the average HDL cholesterol level rose by 21 percent and the ratio of HDL to total cholesterol decreased by 16 percent. The combination of raising HDL cholesterol and lowering the ratio are known to reduce the risk of heart disease."
Also:
"HDL-cholesterol-raising effect of orange juice in subjects with hypercholesterolemia1,2,3
Elzbieta M Kurowska, J David Spence, John Jordan, Stephen Wetmore, David J Freeman, Leonard A Piché and Paula Serratore
1 From the Departments of Biochemistry, Pharmacology and Toxicology, and Family Medicine, and the Nutrition Program (Brescia College), University of Western Ontario, London, Canada; the Stroke Prevention and Atherosclerosis Research Centre, Robarts Research Institute, London, Canada; and the YMCA, London, Canada.
Background: Orange juice—a rich source of vitamin C, folate, and flavonoids such as hesperidin—induces hypocholesterolemic responses in animals.
Objective: We determined whether orange juice beneficially altered blood lipids in subjects with moderate hypercholesterolemia.
Design: The sample consisted of 16 healthy men and 9 healthy women with elevated plasma total and LDL-cholesterol and normal plasma triacylglycerol concentrations. Participants incorporated 1, 2, or 3 cups (250 mL each) of orange juice sequentially into their diets, each dose over a period of 4 wk. This was followed by a 5-wk washout period. Plasma lipid, folate, homocyst(e)ine, and vitamin C (a compliance marker) concentrations were measured at baseline, after each treatment, and after the washout period.
Results: Consumption of 750 mL but not of 250 or 500 mL orange juice daily increased HDL-cholesterol concentrations by 21% (P < 0.001), triacylglycerol concentrations by 30% (from 1.56 ± 0.72 to 2.03 ± 0.91 mmol/L; P < 0.02), and folate concentrations by 18% (P < 0.01); decreased the LDL-HDL cholesterol ratio by 16% (P < 0.005); and did not affect homocyst(e)ine concentrations. Plasma vitamin C concentrations increased significantly during each dietary period (2.1, 3.1, and 3.8 times, respectively).
Conclusions: Orange juice (750 mL/d) improved blood lipid profiles in hypercholesterolemic subjects, confirming recommendations to consume 5–10 servings of fruit and vegetables daily. "
Can't seem to find the study about one glass of orange juice a day for the moment.
"Researchers from the University of Western Ontario in London found that flavonoids and limonoids present in orange juice increases the body's HDL cholesterol (so called "good" cholesterol) level, which helps wash out the LDL cholesterol ("the bad" cholesterol) from your system. Other citrus juices, such as grapefruit, also contain these biochemicals. Orange juice is also a good source of Vitamin C.
In this study, patients with high cholesterol began by drinking one glass of orange juice daily for four weeks, eventually consuming three glasses daily for four weeks. The patients then did not drink any juice for five weeks and had their cholesterol tested again.
The results showed that while LDL cholesterol did not go down, the average HDL cholesterol level rose by 21 percent and the ratio of HDL to total cholesterol decreased by 16 percent. The combination of raising HDL cholesterol and lowering the ratio are known to reduce the risk of heart disease."
Also:
"HDL-cholesterol-raising effect of orange juice in subjects with hypercholesterolemia1,2,3
Elzbieta M Kurowska, J David Spence, John Jordan, Stephen Wetmore, David J Freeman, Leonard A Piché and Paula Serratore
1 From the Departments of Biochemistry, Pharmacology and Toxicology, and Family Medicine, and the Nutrition Program (Brescia College), University of Western Ontario, London, Canada; the Stroke Prevention and Atherosclerosis Research Centre, Robarts Research Institute, London, Canada; and the YMCA, London, Canada.
Background: Orange juice—a rich source of vitamin C, folate, and flavonoids such as hesperidin—induces hypocholesterolemic responses in animals.
Objective: We determined whether orange juice beneficially altered blood lipids in subjects with moderate hypercholesterolemia.
Design: The sample consisted of 16 healthy men and 9 healthy women with elevated plasma total and LDL-cholesterol and normal plasma triacylglycerol concentrations. Participants incorporated 1, 2, or 3 cups (250 mL each) of orange juice sequentially into their diets, each dose over a period of 4 wk. This was followed by a 5-wk washout period. Plasma lipid, folate, homocyst(e)ine, and vitamin C (a compliance marker) concentrations were measured at baseline, after each treatment, and after the washout period.
Results: Consumption of 750 mL but not of 250 or 500 mL orange juice daily increased HDL-cholesterol concentrations by 21% (P < 0.001), triacylglycerol concentrations by 30% (from 1.56 ± 0.72 to 2.03 ± 0.91 mmol/L; P < 0.02), and folate concentrations by 18% (P < 0.01); decreased the LDL-HDL cholesterol ratio by 16% (P < 0.005); and did not affect homocyst(e)ine concentrations. Plasma vitamin C concentrations increased significantly during each dietary period (2.1, 3.1, and 3.8 times, respectively).
Conclusions: Orange juice (750 mL/d) improved blood lipid profiles in hypercholesterolemic subjects, confirming recommendations to consume 5–10 servings of fruit and vegetables daily. "
Can't seem to find the study about one glass of orange juice a day for the moment.
pcovers
11-06-2005, 08:38 AM
That's a lot of orange juice.
Lenin
11-06-2005, 09:32 AM
star,
That's a bad study:
During the first 6 weeks, each volunteer adopted a cholesterol-lowering diet--one based on American Heart Association guidelines. In the seventh week, the participants began drinking a quarter-liter cup of orange juice daily. Four weeks later, they upped consumption to two cups daily. In the next 4-week phase, all downed three cups of juice a day. Finally, the scientists asked the volunteers to stop drinking the juice but maintain a heart-healthy diet for 5 more weeks.
Blood concentrations of the so-called bad--or low-density-lipoprotein--cholesterol remained unchanged, Kurowska's team reports in the November 2000 American Journal of Clinical Nutrition. However, compared with the starting values, HDL cholesterol concentrations in the volunteers climbed 5 percent when they downed a cup of juice daily, settled at 7 percent higher on two cups per day, and jumped to 21 percent higher during the three-cups-a-day phase.
Worst problem is the sample size is tiny, 25. It also is not double blinded...worse, there are no controls.
Net was they put a few people on a heart healthy diet for 6 weeks and then added orange juice. As a bare minimum they should have been compared with the same number of people on the heart healthy diet with NO orange juice.
I mean, you could put a people on a severe, heart healthy diet for two months and then give them an M&M every day and perhaps get very good results. This sounds like something commissioned and designed by an Orange Growers Association.
I read closer:
Tropicana Products of Bradenton, Fla., which funded the research, has financed a follow-up study at the Cleveland (Ohio) Clinic preventive-cardiology unit, notes Carla McGill, who heads nutrition science for Tropicana.
I hope any follow-up Tropicana does is based on better studies...and I hoipe they publish the results even if they are unfavorable (Yeah, right!:D)
All said, I'd even TRY it but for the 480 calories extra from 3 glasses of OJ...I just can't handle that extra caloric load. It's one of the reasons I can't go overboard on wine. Getting fat won't do my heart any good and adding 100 grams of sugar a day sounds like a dreary idea indeed.
Maybe eating orange peels is a better way to go...I DO love them and that's where the flavonoids are.
That's a bad study:
During the first 6 weeks, each volunteer adopted a cholesterol-lowering diet--one based on American Heart Association guidelines. In the seventh week, the participants began drinking a quarter-liter cup of orange juice daily. Four weeks later, they upped consumption to two cups daily. In the next 4-week phase, all downed three cups of juice a day. Finally, the scientists asked the volunteers to stop drinking the juice but maintain a heart-healthy diet for 5 more weeks.
Blood concentrations of the so-called bad--or low-density-lipoprotein--cholesterol remained unchanged, Kurowska's team reports in the November 2000 American Journal of Clinical Nutrition. However, compared with the starting values, HDL cholesterol concentrations in the volunteers climbed 5 percent when they downed a cup of juice daily, settled at 7 percent higher on two cups per day, and jumped to 21 percent higher during the three-cups-a-day phase.
Worst problem is the sample size is tiny, 25. It also is not double blinded...worse, there are no controls.
Net was they put a few people on a heart healthy diet for 6 weeks and then added orange juice. As a bare minimum they should have been compared with the same number of people on the heart healthy diet with NO orange juice.
I mean, you could put a people on a severe, heart healthy diet for two months and then give them an M&M every day and perhaps get very good results. This sounds like something commissioned and designed by an Orange Growers Association.
I read closer:
Tropicana Products of Bradenton, Fla., which funded the research, has financed a follow-up study at the Cleveland (Ohio) Clinic preventive-cardiology unit, notes Carla McGill, who heads nutrition science for Tropicana.
I hope any follow-up Tropicana does is based on better studies...and I hoipe they publish the results even if they are unfavorable (Yeah, right!:D)
All said, I'd even TRY it but for the 480 calories extra from 3 glasses of OJ...I just can't handle that extra caloric load. It's one of the reasons I can't go overboard on wine. Getting fat won't do my heart any good and adding 100 grams of sugar a day sounds like a dreary idea indeed.
Maybe eating orange peels is a better way to go...I DO love them and that's where the flavonoids are.
HubbleRules
11-06-2005, 09:50 AM
All,
Can't remember exactly where I read this, but even though raising HDL is good, and that it helps recycle excess cholesterol back to the liver, your body will not effectively excrete this excess cholesterol unless you have adequate fibre in your diet.
The excess cholesterol is excreted thru bile salts, which bind with fibre in the intestines and are excreted.
From what I can recall, if you don't have adequate fibre in your diet, the liver can't effectively get rid of the excess serum cholesterol - I think it continues to recycle it into more LDL...
I'll try to find the article that I read...
HubbleRules
:cool:
Can't remember exactly where I read this, but even though raising HDL is good, and that it helps recycle excess cholesterol back to the liver, your body will not effectively excrete this excess cholesterol unless you have adequate fibre in your diet.
The excess cholesterol is excreted thru bile salts, which bind with fibre in the intestines and are excreted.
From what I can recall, if you don't have adequate fibre in your diet, the liver can't effectively get rid of the excess serum cholesterol - I think it continues to recycle it into more LDL...
I'll try to find the article that I read...
HubbleRules
:cool:
ARIZONA73
11-06-2005, 11:42 AM
Maybe eating orange peels is a better way to go...I DO love them and that's where the flavonoids are.
You eat orange peels? :eek:
You eat orange peels? :eek:
Lenin
11-07-2005, 09:05 AM
Oh sure, Arizona. I LOVE orange peels if they are the kind that are reasonably thick and mild like Sunkist oranges. When I am done all I have left are the pips and the teeny end that was connected to the stem. Often the flavor of the peels is better than the orange.
For other citus peels that that have a much sharper "bite" like tangerines or Temples, I sometimes boil them in a little water for a while and cook down with some added sugar and then eat the sticky cooked peels.
I guess if I refined that techniique I could make marmalade but it's cheaper and easier to buy a jar of Polaner!
Lemon and grapefruit peels are a bit too intense for me...but decent for cooking with in a spicy Oriental stir-fry
For other citus peels that that have a much sharper "bite" like tangerines or Temples, I sometimes boil them in a little water for a while and cook down with some added sugar and then eat the sticky cooked peels.
I guess if I refined that techniique I could make marmalade but it's cheaper and easier to buy a jar of Polaner!
Lemon and grapefruit peels are a bit too intense for me...but decent for cooking with in a spicy Oriental stir-fry
ACE28
11-11-2005, 11:59 AM
Oh sure, Arizona. I LOVE orange peels if they are the kind that are reasonably thick and mild like Sunkist oranges. When I am done all I have left are the pips and the teeny end that was connected to the stem. Often the flavor of the peels is better than the orange.
For other citus peels that that have a much sharper "bite" like tangerines or Temples, I sometimes boil them in a little water for a while and cook down with some added sugar and then eat the sticky cooked peels.
I guess if I refined that techniique I could make marmalade but it's cheaper and easier to buy a jar of Polaner!
Lemon and grapefruit peels are a bit too intense for me...but decent for cooking with in a spicy Oriental stir-fry
Lenin,
I think a bottle of wine a day (maybe 2) is the best solution. Within a short while we won't even remember our cholesterol problem. Besides, after the second bottle who really cares.. I agree.. OMEGA chicken eggs and orange peels does not appeal to me either.
For other citus peels that that have a much sharper "bite" like tangerines or Temples, I sometimes boil them in a little water for a while and cook down with some added sugar and then eat the sticky cooked peels.
I guess if I refined that techniique I could make marmalade but it's cheaper and easier to buy a jar of Polaner!
Lemon and grapefruit peels are a bit too intense for me...but decent for cooking with in a spicy Oriental stir-fry
Lenin,
I think a bottle of wine a day (maybe 2) is the best solution. Within a short while we won't even remember our cholesterol problem. Besides, after the second bottle who really cares.. I agree.. OMEGA chicken eggs and orange peels does not appeal to me either.
Lenin
11-13-2005, 11:25 AM
That link showed testing with pomegranate jusce LOWERED HDL by 10 points(1.1 to 1.0) and RAISED LDL from 3.1 to 3.5 (a 19% increase)...See Table 1.
In the RESULTS discussion they say:
Plasma lipid pattern
Administration of PJ to 13 healthy men for 2 wk had no significant
effect on the plasma lipid profile, including total cholesterol,
LDL-cholesterol, VLDL-cholesterol, HDL-cholesterol,
and triacylglycerol concentrations (Table 1).
I guess there estimate of "significant" and mine differ a bit.
In any case, all blood results showed a worsening of the lipid profiles in the test subjects...perhaps what you might expect from fruit juice and it's high sugar content?
Pomegranate Juice (Grenadine) might be delicious but as for a 20% increase, in HDL...I don't think so.
OY...I just priced it...$11 a quart! :eek:
In the RESULTS discussion they say:
Plasma lipid pattern
Administration of PJ to 13 healthy men for 2 wk had no significant
effect on the plasma lipid profile, including total cholesterol,
LDL-cholesterol, VLDL-cholesterol, HDL-cholesterol,
and triacylglycerol concentrations (Table 1).
I guess there estimate of "significant" and mine differ a bit.
In any case, all blood results showed a worsening of the lipid profiles in the test subjects...perhaps what you might expect from fruit juice and it's high sugar content?
Pomegranate Juice (Grenadine) might be delicious but as for a 20% increase, in HDL...I don't think so.
OY...I just priced it...$11 a quart! :eek:
ARIZONA73
11-13-2005, 11:54 AM
I guess there estimate of "significant" and mine differ a bit.
In any case, all blood results showed a worsening of the lipid profiles in the test subjects...perhaps what you might expect from fruit juice and it's high sugar content?
Yes, the high sugar content may be a legitimate concern, especially if you drink a lot of the juice. I've always been leery about consuming foods and drinks with a high sugar content. I think it's always been even more of a concern to me since my father has been diabetic for 40 years.
I have no personal experience with pomegranate juice, and its effect on blood lipids. I have tried the juice, though. It tastes good, but is also very sweet....and expensive. Maybe a better option would be to take the extract in the form of a supplement. I know that Puritan's Pride makes a pomegranate extract which is standardized for 40% ellagic acid.
In any case, all blood results showed a worsening of the lipid profiles in the test subjects...perhaps what you might expect from fruit juice and it's high sugar content?
Yes, the high sugar content may be a legitimate concern, especially if you drink a lot of the juice. I've always been leery about consuming foods and drinks with a high sugar content. I think it's always been even more of a concern to me since my father has been diabetic for 40 years.
I have no personal experience with pomegranate juice, and its effect on blood lipids. I have tried the juice, though. It tastes good, but is also very sweet....and expensive. Maybe a better option would be to take the extract in the form of a supplement. I know that Puritan's Pride makes a pomegranate extract which is standardized for 40% ellagic acid.
ARIZONA73
11-13-2005, 12:05 PM
Snapple makes a diet iced tea which contains pomegranate, which I find delicious. It contains no sugar. Of course, I have no idea how much pomegranate is in the tea, but I do enjoy it, and drink it frequently.
Lenin
11-15-2005, 11:28 AM
I have heard that Snapple uses 3 pomegranates per month at each plant...:D
So let's see, that's .0000000013 pomegranates per bottle.
So let's see, that's .0000000013 pomegranates per bottle.
Lenin
11-15-2005, 11:29 AM
I have heard that Snapple uses 3 pomegranates per month at each plant...:D
So let's see, that's .0000000013 pomegranates per bottle.
I used to LOVE eating pmioegranates, but I can't cope with the SEEDS anymore...life is too short!
So let's see, that's .0000000013 pomegranates per bottle.
I used to LOVE eating pmioegranates, but I can't cope with the SEEDS anymore...life is too short!
Brenlee
11-17-2005, 07:45 PM
What about supplements? My doc mentioned fish oil - omega 3s, vit B...
Any suggestion. My doc wants my LDL below 70 from 108. My HDL is 63.
My Tri's are 67.
TIA
Any suggestion. My doc wants my LDL below 70 from 108. My HDL is 63.
My Tri's are 67.
TIA
ARIZONA73
11-17-2005, 08:45 PM
What about supplements? My doc mentioned fish oil - omega 3s, vit B...
Any suggestion. My doc wants my LDL below 70 from 108. My HDL is 63.
My Tri's are 67.
TIA
Why does your doctor want your LDL to be below 70? Your numbers look pretty good to me. Your HDL is high, your triglycerides are low, and your total cholesterol is only 184. Your ratios are all excellent. So, I can't make any sense out of what your doctor is trying to do.
Any suggestion. My doc wants my LDL below 70 from 108. My HDL is 63.
My Tri's are 67.
TIA
Why does your doctor want your LDL to be below 70? Your numbers look pretty good to me. Your HDL is high, your triglycerides are low, and your total cholesterol is only 184. Your ratios are all excellent. So, I can't make any sense out of what your doctor is trying to do.
ARIZONA73
11-17-2005, 08:49 PM
I have heard that Snapple uses 3 pomegranates per month at each plant...:D
So let's see, that's .0000000013 pomegranates per bottle.
Yeah, you're probably right about that, especially since the tea I drink contains no sugar. So it probably can't contain much pomegranate juice.
So let's see, that's .0000000013 pomegranates per bottle.
Yeah, you're probably right about that, especially since the tea I drink contains no sugar. So it probably can't contain much pomegranate juice.
ARIZONA73
11-17-2005, 11:14 PM
Brenlee,
By the way, do you happen to know what your Lp(a) reading is?
By the way, do you happen to know what your Lp(a) reading is?