This is the first time I have ever started a thread, so I hope I'm on the right board...not to sound kooky (though I guess it does) but I unwittingly received "therapeutic touch" therapy in conjunction with physical therapy and at the time, I thought the heat sensation i was feeling was a "nerve response" neural pathway type thing (didn't know about "energy healing" per se and was not expecting it or knowing about it at the time I received it: I thought it was just a part of physical therapy, nerves, etc.) Through weeks of therapy and reading on my own, I have discovered that there are several schools of thought re this "therapy" as well as several theories against these schools In short, I have come to the conclusion that it indeed is very real, that all that is required is a desire for healing on the part of the patient and a desire to heal on the part of the therapist, and a lot of the mumbo jumbo that others throw in to it is just that: mumbo jumbo...not all is mumbo jumbo but a lot is...I also have come to believe that one can perform energy healing on one's self, although I have not yet experienced that...I also am learning that energy flow is vital to our well being...directed energy flow is where the healing enters in...but I am klutzy on this and have had to sift through a lot of "garbage" in gleaning out nuggets of truth re this therapy...has anyone had any good experience re "therapeutic touch" or have any knowlege re this therapy they would like to share? I would really like to learn more re this therapy....

I've not personally experienced "therapeutic touch", but don't doubt some people's ability to help/aid with the healing of others. I got interested in "*********" (chi, prana) a couple of years ago after getting emotionally, spiritually, and physically burned out without any real physical cause. I started taking Taiji (Tai Chi) classes which includes Qigong. This is about acquiring, nurturing, and circulating your "energy". I've learned so much in the last 1.5 years I've been studying it and do feel a great deal better. I'd suggest studying Taiji or Yoga to nurture your energy. Meditation is also important (which mostly is what Qigong is about).

For learning therapeutic touch, I'd think you'd need to learn to nuture your own energy first and learn how not get run down while giving out energy, etc. (if I understand it correctly). I'm sure there's some good books out there about the subject.....isn't Reiki similar? Find something on that.

Tab

Tabs, thank you for replying...nothing more embarassing than posting a thread no one replies too! :o Quiquong sounds a lot like the old yin and yang thought that first introduced to naive Americans accupuncture years ago...when I was in high school I thought it made a lot of sense then and I still do, what little I know about it...as said in my first posting, I kind of stumbled onto "prannic healing"...I just wanted to rid myself of this horrible back pain which really caused a lot of distress job wise, and was focused entirely on asking God to guide my therapist in helping me, and my therapist I think was focused on doing his thing in trying to locate what was causing the problem and alleviate the pain and I don't think he expected me to "awaken" so awake so to speak! :D The surge of energy that coursed through my body for the next two weeks was certainly vitallizing :bouncing: and the poor man must have been "over charged" that day or something...and I kept asking him then about "chakra" (which he had mentioned and I in my mind had though "yeah, right") and then when I was bouncing off the wall with all this energy, I started asking about chakra and the energy etc..and he kept telling me to picture myself as "a tree rooted in the ground"--a meditation which went against my religious beliefs so I just kept bouncing :bouncing: and doing my job at a run, etc...one day they brought in from intensive care a lady with three aneurysms in the brain...comatose, a "do not resucitate, comfort care only" case, brought to the private room to die or be placed in a nursing home...her husband was a Christian and grieving over what had happened and about to happen to his wife, who was my age...
I had learned the day before through PT a nerve stimulation around the radius that was being researched for possible stimulation of comatose patients to wakefulness...I mentally prayed for the lady while applying the nerve stimulus to the patient (the husband I think thought I was taking her pulse) the lady stirred...the next day she opened her eyes...the husband removed the "no code" order and she went to surgery...now has the trach removed, is eating solid food, speaking small sentences and relearning things like cars, people--she spoke her children's names and her husband's--and is placed in a rehab center on her way hopefully back to a full life...doctor's and nurses are amazed and calling it a miracle...I quietly thank God...whether God honored the prayer, the nerve stimulus, or just decided to heal her ....whatever....I tend to view prannic healing as something to be pursued just as other adjuncts to medicine...I have some concerns re recent terrible headaches and energy deprivation--when visiting this patient I noticed the energy surged...but otherwise I get pretty tired of late...My teacher once made the statement that "nothing can come to you that you don't want to" so I'm going to trust that the stuff I read (after I prayed for the lady) about needing a "shield against the patient's diseased energy" was just so much garbage...but you are right about learning how to nurture one's own energy I think, BUT if one is but focusing or channeling pure quantum energy
from the Universe so to speak, shouldn't the one doing the channeling actually get a charge out of it instead of being "depleted"?? Unfortunately, I am "kicked out" of PT now, and no one else to talk with about this...I don't seem to "fit in" with any "groups" cause I just don't buy into the mysticim thing and don't really buy into the "faith healers" (I call them faith wreckers at times!) Guess I'll do some more reading...will definitely check into Taiji some more...ever notice how Taiji, yin yang, some yoga, Reiki, prannic, all deal with energy? Thanks again for your info'... :)

Cannalee:

Wow, you sound really ready and open to energy healing. I think when we're ready, the "teacher" shows up. I was like you a few years ago. It was all hogwash to me so I never paid it any attention. Now I can't imagine believing any other way. Yin/yang, it's all about balance no matter what words you use or "religion" you come from. At first I let "Christianity" keep me from even considering anything else, but reading/learning about all this has really broadened my mind and even made some things FINALLY make sense. I've read some things that would sure make my bible study group raise their eyebrows!. But, reading about My Creator, and love, forgiveness, healing, etc......there's no way anyone can tell me it's bad...... But, it's all an individual thing.

I wish I were like you with the surging energy! I could use some right now. If I knew a Reiki master, I think I'd give one a try for some eye problems I've been having. I've just never done anything like that (alternative) before, but do believe in most of it (by the right people--they're quacks in every profession).

That was an amazing story about the comatose woman. Would be nice to know how she's doing now.... Maybe your "energy" connected with hers and accepted your prayer which facilitated her healing. I'm sure your prayer and touch had something to do with it.

I've come to believe in the mind/body connection. I think that belief is EVERYTHING. That would explain why the placebo effect works, etc. So, yes, I agree with you that prannic healing is an adjunct to medicine, but also that medicine is an adjunct to just plain healing.

I think that when you're using energy to help someone, you're supposed to realize that you are just a conduit, that the energy flows from the universe THROUGH you, not FROM you. Maybe you should still use a mental prayer to shield yourself--better safe than sorry.

Regarding your back pain. I'd suggest a book called The MindBody Prescription by Dr. John Sarno. It's one of the first books I read that opened my eyes to how our deep-seated beliefs affect our health. Thoughts ARE things. Carolyn Myss has some good books, but they're hard reads. I've yet to finish one. Louise Hay wrote You Can Heal Your Life; it's a good one (easier than the Myss ones).

Good luck with your energy. Do check out Taiji, Qigong, or Yoga if you're at all interested in cultivating it. It can only help.....there's all kinds of studies out now showing the benefits of those diciplines and even just plain old meditation.

Tab

:wave: Hi Tabs! Excuse me for bugging you, but do you know how absolutely wonderful to know there's another Christian out there who is open and reasonable? I will admit I am approaching this energy thing very carefully, in recognition of Who the glory goes to, but I firmly believe that just as penicillin was discovered and hailed as a "miracle" drug, there are other forms of healing that are just waiting to be discovered...carefully, lest good things be "corrupted" by man's avarice...the comatose lady's thing just happened this month, she went to the rehab center this past Monday...I plan on visiting her very soon. Unfortunately, I think the energy surge was received from contact with my "Teacher"--I noticed the last few sessions of PT he hardly touched me at all, so maybe I was "draining him"--I dunno--he never said...I have felt pretty depleted since I tried to "stimulate" the comatose lady and only noticed the surge of energy when I was around her...her husband would bring her up to our floor to visit us (after surgery she was moved to a different floor), it was definitely noticeable...I did get a surge working out in the gym which is below my PT's offices but I dunno...it might have been from the exercise: He totally focuses on the patient at hand and I doubt he even remembers me very much...I was just another client and not very outstanding at that...but odd thing: I am pretty sensitive, and I right away began to wonder if he "reads Minds"--I finally started putting it to test, and sure enough, he would eventually speak to whatever i was thinking...I finally got up the nerve to ask him about it to which he answered "I'm just 'intuitive'"...I asked if he was intuitive only or in denial: he just shrugged...telepathy is another form of energy which could be used in helping others...I think my teacher limits his to the room he is in and the patient he is with if he has it...focused in other words...he doesn't seem to get messages across space or walls...but he's young...anyway, the telepathy thing I've known about since a kid...one of my bros and I did it all the time (telepathed)...but the prannic energy thing is brand new to me since end of August and I've a lot to learn....My teacher recommended Carolyn Myss but I guess I'm computer spoiled...if the book's on the internet I'll read it...but guess I need to start going to the library...there's so much to do in this life and learn, it seems I've wasted a lot of time...There are some Reiki masters out there, but seems they all want their dollar...don't know any who just "share" knowlege as generously as my "Teacher" did....amazing compassion with the energy...! Course I'm a firm believer education should be freely given: but that's another thread! But as I learn more about prannic healing and quantum energy, I'll write you, if that's ok...gotta go to work...my 6th day in a row: ugh...talk about energy depleting! But my patients seem to like my backrubs more nowadays! :)

Bioenergy healing by all the names it goes by - TT, Healing Touch, Qi (chi) healing, Pranic healing, Bioenergy Therapy, Reiki, "Laying on of hands", spiritual healing, psychic healing, etc. - is the real deal (if the practitioner knows their stuff. The scientific research is sound (>350 reasonable published studies that would convince anybody but a hardened skeptibunker) and the experience is unmistakeable.

Healers have been around forever - it capacity seems to be a wired in human capacity. The "Naturals" who develop the ability to see of sense the human biofield spontaneously are fascinating folks - a varied a group as you will ever meet. The Trained healers (Barbara Brennan school, Reiki practitioners of the various lineages, Therapeutic Touch practitioners, etc.) are much more standardized and precise is talking about what they do. What I look for is the rare healer who is both - a natural with training.

I use healers of all types to work my energy system - I discovered the technique in the 1970's and have not been without a crew of healers since.

Just make sure you have an experienced and knowledgeable practitioner.

There is a million thoughts going through my mind after reading this post and let me see is I can convey them. First of all, I do believe in the healing power (love of God) of the touch. I have often read of the power of the loving touch for babies, especially premies, and the power of the loving touch to old people in the nursing homes or just people who are alone and never get a hug or even a touch. I believe it has great healing power.

But let us not forget where love and the healing power of the touch originated. When Jesus went to be at the right side of the Father He imparted The Holy Spirit in us (anyoneand everyone) who believe. The problem is, Satan takes this truth and adds his twist to it and mixes a little of the wrong spirit with it to try to pervert it and confuse us.

Now please do not think that I am being judgemental. I can see where anyone, even a Christian not having the knowledge of satan's tactics, could get confused. He will try to lead you into Yoga, meditation, and all the other New Age and Eastern Religions. He has the power, if he can get your attention, to show you little miracles, but they are not lasting. Don't forget, "Greater is He that is in you than he(Satan) that is in the world. Just study where all these New Age religions and beliefs originated and that will tell you a lot.

Now about Faith Healing.......Satan has gotten involved in that too. There are Charlatans that out there that try to lead you astray. A person can't heal anyone, but I do believe God does use people, sometimes through the "laying on of hands" to impart his healing power to those that believe. Sometimes a Baby Christian can receive healing through the laying on of hands by someone who has the Gift of Healing. But God is always the one doing the healing. Have you ever had hands laid on you and felt the power (energy) of the Holy Spirit? It is faith in God's word and faith in the fact that He will do, not just that He Can Do. God expects you to grow in the knowledge of His Word and not remain babies. Then you can receive healing on your own faith and belief and not have to rely on someone to lay hands on you or do your praying for you.

Another interesting thing I have learned. Even a Charlatan can preach God's Word and get results if you receive it in your heart and believe. The Word is where the power is, not the one delivering it.

My purpose is not to condemn anyone, but rather to plant a seed so you will search for more knowledge and not be lead astray. Better yet, ask God to lead you in truth and show you when you are going down the "deceiver's path".

Read the book "The Beautiful Side of Evil" by Johanna Michaelsen, Hal Lindsey's sister-in-law. She tells how she worked as a nurse in Mexico and was deceived by all the miracles she saw performed by witchcraft and how she was eventuallly enlighted. Very interesting book.

:wave: Hi Schmily! I did not see your post until today, so please forgive the lateness of this reply...you put your finger on what troubled me for a long time after I became aware of the energy healing thing: Satan does indeed like to take the beautiful and good things in life and pervert and twist them: look what he has done to sex for instance. I was aware of charlatans and fake "healers" etc. and my husband cautions me continually not to "mislead" another person by what I have been learning and seeing...Certainly our eyes should be focused on our Lord Jesus Christ, our Creator and our Savior. I have (since writing the first postings on this thread) had to do some deep soul searching and prayer re these matters--the Bible teaches us to cling to that which we first learned as babes: to trust in the Lord Jesus as Savior...while I think there are nuggets of "truth" mined throughout history (such as the concept of Chi which is found throughout several different philosophies) the Truth of all Truth is the Truth of Jesus Christ, and in Him we have everything...He is the Source of our energy, our healing, our everything if we are Believers...I was viewing quantum healing as another type of therapy much like one would take a pill or medication or surgery etc. but perhaps this view is too simplistic and runs the risk of serious entrapment or snare of evil machinations; certainly not a risk worth taking to a Christian...
That it exists, like telepathy, chi, etc. I have no doubt, but the path I am taking is to treat it just as another aspect of nature--like a tree or other creation--and asking God to make me more aware and sensitive to my patient's needs and to guide me in the care of these patients (I am a nurse aide)--and accepting the good that comes as from God....the only meditation I do is pray and read my Bible, and i do try to get a few minutes of sunshine a day as a God given source of enjoyment and energy--thank you for sharing your insight on this subject--you confirmed what I think the Lord was showing me--there is after all nothing new under the sun (Ecclesiastes) but God requires that we be happy and love and respect Him...Cerainly we must cling to what we first learned--John 3:16--and keep to the narrow straight path....If I caused anyone to stumble or confusion I am so sorry and hope that God will set things right for them soon...

Cannalee......................God Bless your "teachable spirit". I was afraid that I might have affended you by what I posted but my only reason for posting was to help you and anybody else that might be reading, because I truly care. It's ok to learn ABOUT these practices so we can understand the snares of Satan to help ourselves and others, but the second we participate IN them, we are trapped. He teaches us through our spirit and His Word.

I am so proud that you were so open to Him and you then used your words here to help others. God is so good.